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Welcome to Virtual-Secrets, week 712

05/01/2022 · kesseret ·

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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.


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  1. Kittensinmittens says

    05/07/2022 at 3:24 am

    #29… Way I’m reading this is, she was quick enough to share the Stealthic hair post to try and get a freebie, but “its not good enough” for her to buy it.
    Then the sandals, she loved, then said “Got mine!”… but they were released at Uber, and she said she didn’t get anything at Uber? Which one is it?
    Is she just making a judge-y bitch statement. looking down her nose at the work the creators released at those events because it wasn’t good enough for her? (except for those sandals, aright?)

  2. TalkToTheHand says

    05/06/2022 at 12:16 pm

    57: quick easy AF money making scam? Or, are you mad you didn’t think of it first? LOL but seriously though… don’t give him your money!

  3. TalkToTheHand says

    05/06/2022 at 12:01 pm

    29: haha she is choosey! Hey I am a snob too .. so? LMAO!

  4. TalkToTheHand says

    05/06/2022 at 11:55 am

    20: So yeah…. you want to share your crappy porn pics on Flickr? Now ya gotta pay for it like the people whos pictures are actually good. Go PRO.

    • Cookie says

      05/06/2022 at 6:26 pm

      agree. stop the slutty pics already!!

  5. Pineapple says

    05/03/2022 at 8:43 pm

    Regarding the AVIL avatar, I don’t think I’ve ever met a girl wearing one who didn’t reek of pervert(or worse), including the creator of the body. It got to the point where it’s become an indicator for me to avoid someone if they wear it.

    • And I Oop says

      05/05/2022 at 11:02 am

      It is cringe and yes, It is the perfect body for knowing who to stay the hell away from;
      a walking red flag.

    • Cookie says

      05/06/2022 at 6:29 pm

      I searched for it and yes, it seems it is a pre teen made by and for pedos….
      But we all know LL doesn’t care, right? right??

  6. OhOkay says

    05/03/2022 at 3:19 pm

    #16 why is it dumb? Everyone does not share your same way of thinking? I hate carrying things irl aside from the essentials which I keep in my pockets. 50% of Bottles and cups in SL either use that recycled drinking animation from 2012 that makes it look like I’m trying to feed a second mouth in the middle of my throat or forehead, or they use the bento anim that makes you hold cups with ONLY your pointer finger and thumb so it always looks like I’m seconds away from dropping it. Focus on your avi and let others wear whatever they’d like or join a rp community.

  7. LOLlegacysuckssodoesebody says

    05/03/2022 at 2:43 pm

    lol legacy and ebody can go fuck themselves. shitty ass mesh for overpriced bodies. Ebody and Kupra are the most disgusting, poorly proportioned bodies to ever see the light of day and legacy is just all out bad.

    • mrpeanutbutter says

      05/06/2022 at 12:09 am

      Okay BBL or Maitreya user. Calm down.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        05/06/2022 at 4:01 pm

        Guaranteed that bitch is Maitreya and has stick legs twice as long as the rest of their body, a pointy ass or none at all, and shoulders like a linebacker  😂  so salty because better bodies cost more

    • Cookie says

      05/06/2022 at 6:34 pm

      all bodies are horrible. I vouch for LucyBody because it is FREE except for the 195L$ you have to pay if you want it BOM (which is convenient to do) Before that is was the Kalhene Ariadna that had nice curves.I had to buy maitreya because most clothes were made for it.. but god I hate the crotch!!

  8. Wondering says

    05/03/2022 at 1:15 pm

    #40, this might be your own opinion and should not count for all, planets Of QoS is one of the best clubs and managed by the loveliest admin and owners are so helpful and spending so much time and effort keeping it running nicely, I do agree about the lag but this has always been a drawback in such busy places and shopping events

  9. Gonzo says

    05/03/2022 at 12:13 am

    #41 Who would have thought that a racist sim, and the racist people who support it, would not fully embrace equality. I for one am shocked.

  10. Jason Yung says

    05/02/2022 at 8:46 pm

    3) This is quite literally my schedule for April that someone took off of Facebook to make one of the stupidest posts I’ve ever seen…

    I own the brand that is in those events, that is ACTUALLY participating and see NO issue with the prices they charge.

    If YOUR sales are low and YOU break even that is on YOU.

    Maybe YOU should do better. Do not place it on everybody else because YOUR sales are low. Mine certainly aren’t.

    Happy Monday!

    • M.O. says

      05/04/2022 at 11:53 pm

      The prices event owners charge are a drop in the bucket compared to the lindens you will make at that event. If you cant make at a minimum 10x the event fee you need to rethink all aspects of your business model.

    • mrpeanutbutter says

      05/06/2022 at 12:14 am

      Preach!

  11. SOTA Beach OS says

    05/02/2022 at 6:37 pm

    Fake sota Beach you try to take are sim name you dickhead why you think you change to youth nation. Fail sim failure to all your management to your grids and sim. Inviting memeber on other grids to join cock fest you people are so desperate. We know you set up AR everyone kid avatar to your sim a year ago. But look at you now running your own cuck fest of immature ignorant old fucks. Your to scare to reply no worries you’re to pussy to do anything anyways you going send your minion’s pathetic. You made Toby that you got banned fromom second life. And your fake apology video we did the podcast already about your sim and grid. And abdl is a pedophile fetish thing

  12. CokeZero says

    05/02/2022 at 6:16 pm

    Holy shit. You have all lost your minds. ok,
    The biggest one:
    If you don’t like how a creator is doing THEIR business, Creating THEIR mesh or rigging, then make your own damn clothing and shit. Think it’s overpriced? Make it yourself. The same people bitching about Creators doing their thing, are the SAMe privileged ass people picking the fly shit out of the pepper over a simple post that has nothing to do about race, religion or politics but bring it up any ways. It old, it’s boring, find a new damn hobby… like making your own shit.

    The second thing:
    Who the fuck cares about what RP sim is doing what? Same goes for you. Don’t like it? Make your own. Everyone’s down fall is a blessing for another in the RP world. Also, Fox Hollow had that shit coming. Behind the scenes was drama, backstabbing, shit talking about residence and so on. Thank the Gods that toxic waste is gone. Now everyone can be a POS without power in someone else’s RP sim.

    And finally:
    I will say this until you get it. If you are the one complaining about something a creator made for a child avatar clothing wise, then you’re the pervert. Stop sexualizing clothing for little avatars. If the top posted was for a bathing suit all you MF’ would have been “Awe so cute. look at my bbg” But because it’s a regular ass top you got to make it a big thing. I got an idea, how about all the mommas out there stop dressing like trash around their RP kids and creators won’t feel like they need to make matching outfits??!! 😂

    I’m done. Duces.

    • Caster Troy says

      05/02/2022 at 8:03 pm

      I’ll put it this way, if you see a child in a bathing suit irl, you would be like, aww he/she is adorable, but in here everyone is like *points – PEDO!*, like seriously? get over it, got proof then go to your local LEOS  🙄 

      • Cookie says

        05/06/2022 at 6:47 pm

        Because in RL there is no adult inside that child, in SL there is, isn’t it?? can you tell the difference?? can you imagine what kind of sick mind could be inside a child avatar?? if it is not a mentally unstable it is a pedo. No other option.

      • KG says

        05/06/2022 at 6:55 pm

        What is it that you don’t like about child avatars, exactly? I mean, adults are behind all the lines written in movies that feature child actors, and all the stories that feature child characters. Are they twisted for even trying to get inside the mind of a child? Or do you have other reasons, too?

    • Toxicwater says

      05/06/2022 at 7:07 am

      When I was a child, I was wearing a top for my bathing suit just like in the picture. A cute, frilly top, my mother bought it because she thought it was the most adorable thing ever.

      There is nothing sexual about a bathing suit, people just like to not be dragged down and drown while swimming. That’s also the reason why Burkinis were banned around here, as it’s a safety risk.

      • Cookie says

        05/06/2022 at 6:46 pm

        i think it was because of public concern following terrorist attacks… nothing more.

    • Cookie says

      05/06/2022 at 6:37 pm

      read this in childish annoying and mocking voice “if you don’t like you can get out!”

  13. V_V says

    05/02/2022 at 4:07 pm

    #52 My life is now complete. /bows head in respect

  14. RPer only says

    05/02/2022 at 12:15 pm

    1. I love New Haven. I’m not going to bash the other RP communities but New Haven is the best I’ve lived in so far and I have lived in a lot over the last 10 years. Bully free place.

  15. Theodoric says

    05/02/2022 at 10:58 am

    #55 Because they are old men pretending to be girls, obvious answer to obvious question

  16. Gabriel Archon says

    05/02/2022 at 8:55 am

    #56 – “Hi, Elliot Rodger here…” You can bet your ass this jerk has a ‘manifesto’ too. Red flag overload.

    • mrpeanutbutter says

      05/06/2022 at 12:16 am

      Not you reminding me that I read that.

    • Bingo! says

      05/06/2022 at 2:30 am

      Did you mean #46?

  17. Power Exchange says

    05/02/2022 at 8:16 am

    #12 – tell me you know nothing about the D/s power dynamic without telling me you know nothing about the D/s power dynamic. The sub ALWAYS has the power in the relationship – they sub is the one who CHOOSES to give their power to the Dominant. The relationship is based on the limits of the submissive – not the Dominant. And babygirl submissives have existed long before SL and they will exist long after SL.

  18. N.O. says

    05/02/2022 at 6:53 am

    #55 – how about we stop slut shaming women cause of what they choose to wear, in both lives.

    • N.O. says

      05/02/2022 at 9:58 am

      whoever downvoted NOT slut shaming other women is a piece of shit – that’s not shaming – that’s stating a fact.

      • And I Oop says

        05/05/2022 at 11:06 am

        They downvoted you because that body is for little kids. I don’t give a shit how much clothing a person is wearing as long as they are 18+.

    • Bingo! says

      05/02/2022 at 3:49 pm

      AVIL is a child avatar, just so you know. The creator says it isn’t to cover their ass, but they originally released it as a child avatar and that’s all anyone uses it as. The creator of it is well known for having made extremely creepy shit for the SMB avatar (which is another tween avatar that AVIL was created as an alternative to) and I think has been posted on here before for that reason. This isn’t “slut shaming other women” it’s “why are people dressing their child avatars like this?”

  19. Cat on Catnip says

    05/02/2022 at 5:14 am

    #16 I love carrying bags and other holdable items, but the animation often clashes with my AO or furniture I sit on, and I end up detaching and re-attaching frequently. Too much hassle to wear them all the time.

  20. DontBeADumbass. says

    05/02/2022 at 1:51 am

    #15 It’s a fatpack… for 550L.. shut the fuck up. Like seriously all you whiney bitches.. SHUT THE FUCK UP.. you realize 550L is approximately $3.77 USD.. shut the fuck up. I’m sure you spend more on cupcakes…………….. Stfu. 

    • Virtual Barbie says

      05/02/2022 at 3:30 am

      Literally some of the best hair and nicest customer service on SL too. David and Ryan are so nice.

    • Being Honest says

      05/02/2022 at 5:51 am

      This just goes to prove that people will literally complain about anything.

    • mrpeanutbutter says

      05/06/2022 at 12:22 am

      Is this David cause I KNOW this much sass gotta be you tired af of seeing yourself on this dumb shit every time new rounds come out. Honestly the fatpack price isn’t even terrible regardless of USD. Other people would be charging $L1k+ for what Doux puts in the blogger pack. I like the blogger packs better for Doux hair anyways so I will gladly pay it. If people are broke then just say you broke? Like…lmao

  21. Liquid Speed says

    05/02/2022 at 1:37 am

    1. Everybody does not work at Pinewood in CC. Newcomers are attracted to it as late. The school doesn’t have many students. It never recovered from Lucy’s jealous fit.

    Lucy is everywhere because she’s desperate for attention and CC has this influx of newcomers that she wants to leech on. John left CC after him and Lucy unpartnered and Lucy played the victim like she always does and idiots fell for it. She bullied him out of CC like the huge rat that she is

    New Haven has potential. Best for peeps wanting higher up jobs

    • And I Oop says

      05/05/2022 at 11:16 am

      John was an asshole but Lucy told us he gets jealous around gay guys too. I can’t stand that narcissist bitch either. I yeeted her and the Knight family from my friends list a long time ago.

  22. allthegoodnamesaretaken says

    05/02/2022 at 12:52 am

    #55 I don’t know if those two statements are connected. But 90% of clothes on the MP looking like prostitute wear…yeah, what’s up with that? Skirts that barely go past the crotch. Jeans with so many holes that you wonder how they don’t fall apart. Tops that don’t cover a damn thing. Why do I have to work so hard to find clothes that won’t make me look like a slut?

    • Working at the saltmine says

      05/02/2022 at 1:02 am

      I think it’s a pretty nice social study. Most of the below average women running their mouths about “sluts” irl will run around just like that when they have the chance to modify their body to be a 10/10.

      • Cookie says

        05/06/2022 at 6:58 pm

        it would be a really nice social study, but I think the below average women are ones that are slutty, and I guess 50+ IRL.

    • Being Honest says

      05/02/2022 at 5:49 am

      Probably because we’re all playing a social virtual platform where we can choose what we look like. I mean, think about it. A lot of people spend a lot of time and money making their avatar look (subjectively to their liking) relatively attractive if not gorgeous. People are wearing what they wish they could in real life and can’t due to self image issues, social stigma, the list could go on. They’re buying things that they like. Another reason I suppose could be because they want to draw attention to their avatar and get some form of socialization. There are stores out there that offer just as good of quality clothing that aren’t “slutty” but they’re not as seen or as popular due to the fact that we’re all participating in buying from and boosting stores that sell “slutty” clothes. Plus, in all fairness, sex sells and will always sell.

      • allthegoodnamesaretaken says

        05/02/2022 at 6:13 pm

        I get that. I get that people want to feel sexy and get attention. I’m not slut shaming. But some of us *don’t* want to dress like that. And we’re stuck shopping at just a few businesses that make hoodies, t-shirts, jeans and dresses that don’t show off all of our assets.

      • Being Honest says

        05/02/2022 at 7:53 pm

        If you don’t want to dress “like that” you have every right. But if that’s all you can find in terms of non-“slutty” clothes, maybe try getting a bit more creative with your outfits because there’s more out there than just hoodies, t-shirts, jeans, and dresses.

      • allthegoodnamesaretaken says

        05/03/2022 at 12:21 pm

        My style is comfy casual. I would love to hear some suggestions.

      • Not my monkeys says

        05/05/2022 at 5:29 am

        neve, Apororism,coco, ricelli, Flirt, amias, apple blossom, Baiastice, Bauhaus, ed, fashionatic, giz seorn, ison, mimikri, n uno, rosary….shall i go on

      • And I Oop says

        05/05/2022 at 10:57 am

        I have some lady friends who were complaining about clothes so sure, go on. I am copying this list to them.

      • GiGi Gigiggity says

        05/03/2022 at 12:58 am

        There are ways to look sexy without looking like a pro thumbing for tricks on the highway. 99.99% a covered snatch is way sexier than seeing the ham flaps on display.

      • N.O. says

        05/03/2022 at 2:16 pm

        I AM DYING AT HAM FLAPS

      • Cookie says

        05/06/2022 at 6:56 pm

        ok, you can make a pretty avatar, but why the hell a slut one??? why???!!! and like 99% of them are not special, not beautiful, not sexy, not one of the kind.. they have the same crotch, the same vulva, they are not special, not attention grabbing.

    • Bingo! says

      05/02/2022 at 4:17 pm

      Yes they’re related statements, go look up “AVIL” on the MP if you’re unsure. The creator of the AVIL body is a pedophile who has been making inappropriate clothes for tween avatars for years. They used to make stuff for the SMB body, but made their own body and modeled it after SMB so they could keep using the same clothes.

    • Cookie says

      05/06/2022 at 6:54 pm

      I thought I was reading my own comment..
      I agree 100%.
      I really wonder.

  23. Working at the saltmine says

    05/02/2022 at 12:45 am

    #46 A critically injured narcicisst accusing the other of being a narcicisst, what a classic lmao. Someone take away his beard and give him a pacifier already.

  24. WhatIsYourDamageHeather says

    05/02/2022 at 12:01 am

    12 – Anyone who thinks “beta males” are real is the best person to get relationship advice from. I mean, aside from from tweakers, paranoid schizophrenics, and corpses.

    51 – How about no.

    • Agree to Disagree a bit says

      05/02/2022 at 12:43 am

      You think all males are “Alpha Males?”

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        05/06/2022 at 12:22 am

        No, we think wolf pack dynamics don’t actually apply to humans, and anyone who uses those terms unironically is absolutely the thing they’re most afraid of being.

  25. Bleh says

    05/01/2022 at 11:44 pm

    #46 – Tell me you’re an incel without telling me you’re an incel.  😂  He sounds deranged AF. Perhaps a visit to a psychiatrist is in order.

    • Oohere for the comments says

      05/02/2022 at 10:23 pm

      I have run into this “man” and my last comment to him was to call him an Incel

  26. Chester says

    05/01/2022 at 11:36 pm

    #51
    lol sweetie. no.

  27. Not who you think this is says

    05/01/2022 at 11:34 pm

    #1 this is so dumb. You do realize NH is full of CC rejects just like Woodland. Both are boring AF. There are other RP sims besides CC. FH WL and NH… What a waste of VS space.

    • getyourheadoutofreisass says

      05/05/2022 at 4:16 pm

      because some people left the infested shit hhole of cc doesn’t make them rejects. cc think they are the shit when its literally one big tournament of who can be the biggest asshole. FH was a larger version of cc. Woodland is okay but the one blonde manager is downright rude and haven’t been to NH. cc has always hated any place that can be competition rather then thinking everyone can work together

      • Not who you think this is says

        05/06/2022 at 11:25 pm

        They all suck ass!

    • Fynn for the win says

      05/06/2022 at 12:34 pm

      Your comment is more a waste of comment space. People leave for various reasons. Exploring other places. Finding a more beautiful place. Join a place where the friends are. Get away from drama.

      What you say makes no sense. According to your logic CC is full of rejects of many, many other places.

  28. Caster Troy says

    05/01/2022 at 11:28 pm

    I think the people that post the ” pedo ” posts, thinks everyone in SL is a pedo… its simple, if you dont want to go to a rp sim where theres ” children “, then don’t go there, simple. If you have proof then go to your local LEOs and show them. Until then, get over it and move on?

    • Wake Me Up Inside (Can't Wake Up) says

      05/01/2022 at 11:55 pm

      Sorry not sorry, but roleplaying as a kid in adult communities is fucking weird, getting off to pretending to be a kid is fucking weird, and just because SL is full of socially inept, terminally online weirdos doesn’t mean that those of us who put our foot down and say no to degeneracy are in the wrong.

      Maybe people keep posting “pedo posts” because SL communities are absolutely dogshit at moderating this kind of stuff, so this is their only way of trying to spread awareness…? I for one find myself constantly reporting underage looking avatars or people RPing ageplay to sim staff, on multiple sims, and most of them don’t give a shit. Some even allow it until LL gets involved. If they ever do.

      If you don’t want to be “kinkshamed” then don’t shove your fetishes down other people’s throats, especially when your “kink” involves minors.

      Again, I know a lot of SL players live in an echo chamber of weird fetishes and bizarre takes, but I shouldn’t have to explain why a lot of people are uncomfortable around people who sexualize children.

      • And I Oop says

        05/05/2022 at 11:34 am

        Where the hell are you hanging out to have to constantly report people for active ageplay? Sounds sus. I don’t know, I can’t relate. I have encountered ageplayers but not that often and I avoid the obvious places that are rumored to be overtaken by them.

      • Wake Me Up Inside (Can't Wake Up) says

        05/05/2022 at 3:48 pm

        It’s quite simple – furries.
        I’m not kidding when I say that literally any RP sim that allows furries in any form (even “realistic” ones) always seems to have at least a few rumored or confirmed ageplayers. Though, the reason I keep finding multiple in the same places is because, due to the mods not doing shit about it 95% of the time, they start bringing eachother over.

        If an ageplayer doesn’t get punished on a RP sim, and the mods turn a blind eye to it, they’ll invite their ageplayer friends to join them and then, whoops, suddenly you’ve got a whole pack of likeminded people that the mods refuse to do anything about.

      • And I Oop says

        05/07/2022 at 2:00 am

        Damn.

  29. THE DAMN KARMA says

    05/01/2022 at 11:18 pm

    #14 and #15 It annoys me that the owner of DOUX always copies designs made by other shops and always gets away with it, this hair was made by RAMA SALON last year and this guy didn’t even bother to do something different except for the butterflies, it is no secret to anyone that the owner of that RAMA store lives in (UKRAINE) and since the beginning of the war she has not been able to continue in SL this is not just a coincidence it is also an attack on the hard work of a creator who is going through a difficult time (it’s disgusting)!

    • mrpeanutbutter says

      05/06/2022 at 12:34 am

      Kind of a reach. But that’s what the internet is all about, I guess.

  30. Isabella says

    05/01/2022 at 10:02 pm

    #1 cringe when someone calls strangers over internet/videogame “family”. Those pretend “families” are cringe AF.
    #5 many people doing bad mesh. Someone said that learning a 3D software is as easy as learning violin. And everybody does it!!
    #11 don’t like that tiny slit eyes. Many heads comes like that. Don’t like it. looks like a heavily stoner.
    #13 I derendered Saffia Widdershins because I wanted to confirm is she was actually without panties (bom/texture panties, those are the ones that matter) And yes she was interviewing the head of LL at one of the SL birthdays without panties or mesh parts hidden with an alpha. Didn’t took pictures tho. Gross.
    #14 ugly hair and model.
    #15 doux charge you extra if you want the deluxe pack or whatever they sell to be able to change hairstyle, while in monso you got that for free, as well as other hair brands. Greedy and overhyped.
    Why do they think that’s a good looking model??
    #16 true, but… it is a magical world. Don’t like bags.
    #19 agree. I’ve sent some that aren’t being published. I know it is the owner prerogative, but makes these secrets not so entertaining.
    #20 thank god many nude pictures aren’t visible thanks to that. Now it is time to ban horizontal pictures of avatars because “you can see them better”. NO. I hate them!!
    #23 sorry, I don’t reed in dumb measures. Feet? what’s that?
    #27 #47 you can use yahoo email too. I don’t have google accounts and I’m fine. Or you can use a throwaway account. But I agree to cancel the use of giftcards is not professional.
    I went a couple of times to her store and didn’t like anything…
    #28 most SL pictures are a lie because they are heavily photoshopped (not showing the REAL SL) or are cringy, sexual… a mess!
    #29 maría is right. And jonny perez needs to STOP MAKING OBJECTS IN MESH THAT WEIGHT 100K IN COMPLEXITY!!! And his models are short, ugly, and thick-legged.
    The sthealtic hair is ugly. Unimaginative.
    #31 that ruth cringes!!
    #37 not the same thing and you know it.
    #38 many thief in SL
    #43 wow first time hearing about canvas fingerprinting. I’ll search about it. Just using ad block.
    #45 not many clothes for those bodies you mentioned. I don’t like maitreya but was pushed to buy it because of the fitting.
    #46 I hate special characters and men with low self steem and high ego.
    #50 baby avatars are CRINGE!!! And more cringe when there is a 50 year old woman “looking for a family”
    #52 sick and tired of Ruth already.
    #53 there are more copycats in this world than creative people. Most copycats have the power to make themselves visible and somewhat charisma and marketing sense so they are the ones standing out, shadowing the rest.
    #55 those avies look like midgets.
    #57 don’t like pictures that are not real. Those brainless egomaniacs deserved to be lied to.

    • Not who you think this is says

      05/01/2022 at 11:35 pm

      Your face is cringe!

    • nupe says

      05/02/2022 at 3:08 am

      1. except they all charge 250-350 per color pack and averages around 700-1k for fatpack lol so who’s greedy?
      • Cookie says

        05/02/2022 at 12:59 pm

        I only need one

      • Cookie says

        05/02/2022 at 1:07 pm

        oh but isn’t doux selling different packs per color? so you need to buy (if you are so fixated to wear every color) the fat pack or the packs you like PLUS the deluxe pack.
        I really dislike to pay expensive prices for pixel that duplicates by infinity without loosing quality (so, creator have to do it ONE time) but Monso has really great quality hair. Doux don’t. Average at most and really overhyped.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        05/05/2022 at 12:02 am

        Monso has some good ideas, but too few color options, and adding an attachment for a color streak instead of building it into the hair is ridiculous. Doux hasn’t been selling new hair by color packs in a long time; now it’s all colors in one pack, with the option to add on a style hud.

  31. Disgruntled Duck says

    05/01/2022 at 8:35 pm

    #16 – Let me tell you about these things called pockets.

  32. Curtis says

    05/01/2022 at 8:14 pm

    Hiya Amari. What’s wrong? Run out of cock to suck on your female alt?

  33. branndin says

    05/01/2022 at 7:59 pm

    Arbordale is a pedo sim

    Sota Beach is a Pedo sim

    ALL child avatars are pedo’s

  34. branndin says

    05/01/2022 at 7:57 pm

    You delete your social media accounts like a pussy. Why you hiding like a bitch on open grids you scare to say something publicly on here go one since you have a month speaks on your grid and server. You a pussy and you scare to face facts you lose. You keep coming back we hiring people to flag accounts.

  35. Bubbles says

    05/01/2022 at 7:41 pm

    I rented for awhile at Fox Hollow and never engaged much with the community. It was just really calming to walk around a virtual small town set in the US, since I immigrated to Korea. So I’m angry shitty people ruined that.

    Also lol at #56 that’s all Permia is.

    • Being Honest says

      05/01/2022 at 8:26 pm

      Cedar Creek is a good alternative option, I know people often liked to butt heads when it came to FH vs CC but it’s just as nice. It takes place in Colorado in the US. They have good scenery, and their parks are pretty, some have outdoor activities too.

    • SCARLETT EATS SHIT says

      05/01/2022 at 9:47 pm

      Stfu you and that fat bitch scarlet stole from
      Summer camp

    • Wake Me Up Inside (Can't Wake Up) says

      05/01/2022 at 11:58 pm

      Being surprised at Permia being a cesspool of degeneracy this late is funny. It was like that since it opened at the end of last year… it was like that in it’s conception. It’s predecessor, Spira, was also that way.

      Fun fact: The reason it was made to have a vague “middle eastern” area is because one of the founders has a fetish for Islam.

  36. CEDAR CREEK PIMP COCO D FRUIT C says

    05/01/2022 at 7:22 pm

    This Juliet bimbo is making Cedar Creek look bad, Lucy needs to fire her! Then crack dick needs to fire Lucy, Also from a legit source, I was told Ramesh was having sex with Lucy, carrot, Sarah and furby. CEDAR CREEK IS ONE BIG ALL YOU CAN FUCK FEST

    • Tired of It says

      05/01/2022 at 7:51 pm

      Juliet does need to be fired, and Lucy if that is true too but CC is far from a fuck fest.

      • omg says

        05/02/2022 at 2:45 pm

        They can’t just “fire” people, they’d lose their funders. Why do you think the community owners just keep looking the other way when people are screwing others over?

    • Caster Troy says

      05/01/2022 at 8:32 pm

      i’ve only been in CC for a few weeks, haven’t seen anything that would make me want to leave in a hurry.

      • Being Honest says

        05/01/2022 at 8:51 pm

        CC is perfectly fine. There are just people who are extreme FH stans upset that it got closed slamming it. The community is great and I havent had a problem with anything or any one since joining last year. I like the community events that they have. Though, I’m a little annoyed that there are people coming over and grabbing houses and not actually living in that place. They just want the citizen tag. That or those who grab places with their alts for the same reason. Because of this there arent a lot of places to rent right now. They need to fix that.

      • Not who you think this is says

        05/01/2022 at 11:38 pm

        Why would people rent homes just to have the resident tag? That’s just dumb. You are probably not there when the renters are.

      • Liquid Speed says

        05/02/2022 at 1:45 am

        People have been exposing true CC secrets for a long time way before FH shut down. If you stay away from the crappy people CC won’t be that bad

      • omg says

        05/02/2022 at 2:52 pm

        Bullshit, they want to have a nice house in a nice neighborhood. Renting land is okay but lonely and without infrastructure. Nobody gives a fuck about tags, that’s not what they’re paying for. How do you know who is living in them or not? Are you one of those 24-7 people who never logs? And it’s not “for some reason”, it’s to trick people into believing they’re not an alt. “They” need to “fix” that…ugh, do you not realize that these issues are not fixable? Do you see why the shit in “rp” towns doesn’t happen in RL?

      • Threeforty says

        05/02/2022 at 7:37 pm

        Pretty sure “Being Honest” is Lee Ashwell. She complains about this a lot when she should be focused on making her mediocre store better. Agreeing with you….it’s not fixable and people can rent what they want.

      • Being Honest says

        05/02/2022 at 7:46 pm

        I think its pretty obvious that someone isn’t living at a place when they’ve bought it, continue to rent it weeks later and haven’t put a single thing in the place. You have to rent or live at a place with somebody to get a citizenship tag and with that you can do things like getting a job and participate more in the community. I don’t have to be on 24/7 do notice that either, but considering that this is a place that I frequent and have frequented in SL for a long time because – well, gee, I dont know, I happen to like the place and community and I choose to? I’m also not the only one who has said this amongst the many other people who RP there as well, so maybe consider that people have conversations about the things around them – it’s a wild thought but it does happen a lot. The whole “for some reason” part is sarcasm, as well as the sentience previous to this one. Clearly you have an issue with reading comprehension and logical thinking, you should consider staying away from things literature based if you’re unable to grasp basic sarcasm and become triggered.

      • omg says

        05/02/2022 at 7:54 pm

        LOL, attempt to insult me, I don’t care, after all, I’ve lived in RP towns so, you can’t hurt me anymore.
        Honestly, I believe that happens when a member of management wants to hold a place for whatever reason, for a friend or an alt, or just to prevent someone in particular from getting it. They know what they’re doing.

      • Being Honest says

        05/03/2022 at 1:26 am

        Hey man I’m not the one that’s butthurt. I’m just speaking on behalf of myself and the people I’ve talked to and worked with. As per the other individual calling me Lee, I don’t care if you think I am or not? I don’t even speak to Lee and I agree their store looks like dogshit. You guys realize that there are a lot of people that frequent CC, right? As for the “holding houses” what you’re talking about is completely different from what I’m talking about. You should probably go back and read what I’ve said aloud if you’re having problems with comprehension.

      • Cash says

        05/04/2022 at 2:59 pm

        So you try to insult another person’s reading comprehension and thinking skills, while misspelling the word sentence, makes perfect sense. Careful, those stones need to break your own windows before you can launch them at your neighbors’.  😉 

      • Threeforty says

        05/02/2022 at 7:37 pm

        “Being Honest” aren’t you Lee Ashwell?

      • Being Honest says

        05/03/2022 at 1:23 am

        Hell fuckin no lmao

      • a shadow says

        05/03/2022 at 3:28 am

        omg, if people pay their rent it’s up to them if they want to just sit there and look at it empty or decorate it till that prim limit is bursting. And as for alts, if you have one house you can fit like 11 people on your mailbox to give them resident tags, Some people actually have homes for their alts because they have proper stories for them and dont want them homeless. And again. If i want to spend the money to have as many houses as i want, end of the day, they still get their money. One thing they could do is maybe add another sim, or take out the zoo and add more houses. Perfect time to grow.

      • Liquid Speed says

        05/02/2022 at 1:39 am

        Give it time

    • Liquid Speed says

      05/02/2022 at 1:47 am

      Rofl but you lost me at Furby. The others I can believe

    • RPer only says

      05/02/2022 at 12:45 pm

      Ramesh when will you stop posting about yourself?

  37. OhMyLanta says

    05/01/2022 at 7:21 pm

    3.Raise your item prices to compensate. Know your worth.

    6.You sound like a cuck.

    12.The fact you use the term “beta” just screams you’re a small dicked incel who smells like stale sweat and semen and actually thinks you’re dating character from a hentai you’ve memorized. In D/s relationships, the sub is in control, entirely. If you think otherwise, you’re probably just in it to be an abusive pos.

    15.550 is nothing for a fatpack. You have his talent and be that low priced. I’ll wait.

    16.In a virtual world of make believe, why would I want to look realistic?

    20.No one really wants to see your dick anyways. Get over it.

    27.I don’t like or support LuLuB, but more than her have stopped allowing or selling GCs because someone figured out a scam with certain vendors.

    28.You sound mad that someone didn’t like your stuff. It’s okay they don’t like your stuff. You do you.

    29.Most events now are boring, because there’s too many damn events. It’s oversaturation in a small market. It happens.

    34.Creators aren’t always logged into SL, if they are providing you an easier way to contact them, than waiting a week, deal with it.

    38.Art isn’t copywritten.

    39.Have you written them a notecard?

    43.Most websites compile statistical data of where a user is from, how long they stay on the site, how long they look at certain things. They don’t care about you, but data speaks on efficiency of layout and colours.

    50.Whilst I loath the kid community on here.. have you never seen a child in a frilly tank top? It’s not sexual in the least. WTF is wrong with you?

    • shadow says

      05/01/2022 at 7:26 pm

      like Hell Art isnt copyrighted. True this particular post is a bit picky, but never think Art and the artist dont hold copyrights.

      • OhMyLanta says

        05/02/2022 at 12:17 pm

        Look up copywrite laws and art, if it was a direct image stolen for sale, and the OG artist intended to profit from the image, yes, it’s protected. but when you’re talking about the transfer of a digital image into a virtual clothing item, and no logos etc are used, it’s not, though if taken to court, the outcome is more keen to lean in favour of the OG artist.

      • OhMyLanta says

        05/02/2022 at 12:20 pm

        Either way, her stealing people’s ideas is really shitty.. but so is the Strawberry dress that’s probably in your inventory, or any Gucci, Prada, LV Chanel copied item. Lots of makeup artists have had their work stolen and reproduced in here as well. Furniture design.. paintings… any baby yoda, or among us character…

      • OhMyLanta says

        05/03/2022 at 3:38 pm

        Also know, that I do not condone this. I think it’s shitty. I also think the strawberry dress in your inventory is shitty. Or any and all Gucci, LV, Chanel, Fendi, Prada Versace, Supreme, Off White versions in SL are shitty. The Louboutin, Yeazy, Nike, Creeper, Doc Martin’s, Vans, Converse, Adidas, Swear, New Rock, Demonia redos in SL are shitty. Any makeup art that is stolen and redone in SL is shitty. Any paintings or furniture that are stolen and reproduced in SL are also.. shitty. Anything taken from RL and redone in SL is just shitty, but you’re not going to stop people from doing it, or supporting it. People still support Scandalize ffs. And she’s a disgusting cow. If you’re going to call it out however, call it all out.

    • Agree to Disagree a bit says

      05/02/2022 at 12:51 am

      #12 Clarity to the D/s power exchange a bit. A sub empowers the dominant when the submissive surrenders her control. Power exchange is consensual to his/her control and in reality, the submissive always is in underlying control during the power exchange. The dominant is trying to satisfy the submissive needs, desires, kinks etc. She can always take away her control at any given time if the Dominant abuses such control of that power.

  38. TommyTheTerrible says

    05/01/2022 at 6:37 pm

    #45 I don’t see any vertexes on the Belleza Jake with more than four bone references per vertex in the rigging.

    Never seen any issues with Maitreya and a little weird to be lauding Legacy when they literally spell out letters in their vertexes (and rigging to that area can get pretty weird because of it.).

    Legacy’s body is one of the worst optimized in my opinion. It keeps being pushed by people who think the last body made is the best.

    • Tired of It says

      05/01/2022 at 7:56 pm

      I agree, I think that persons problem may be with the skin though. Personally I like Maitreya better than my Legacy as it’s easier to make drastically different body shapes. I feel like Legacy’s body takes a bit more time to adjust and even then I’m not fully satisfied with the shape, their HUD is annoying compared to Maitreya’s too. It’s laggy and gets stuck a lot,

      • Bruh says

        05/01/2022 at 8:50 pm

        For me, neither maitreya or legacy HUD’s are laggy…. BUT the belleza freya hud is just atrocious when it comes to how slow and laggy it is

      • Being Honest says

        05/03/2022 at 1:29 am

        Whenever I’m trying to do something applier wise with the Legacy body I’m always guaranteed an issue with the hud, it infuriates me horribly. All of my settings are perfectly fine, too. I’ve never used the Belleza Freya Body though, so I can’t speak much on that, I can understand though.

      • A-Kid says

        05/03/2022 at 7:51 am

        From friends with Belleza bodies, they say the HUD absolutely can lag but it’s at least an easy layout and has a full mod body so they don’t have issues finding anything or taking out scripts and layers they don’t use.

        When I demoed Legacy as an alternative for my adult avatar, the HUD was the worst I’d ever seen. Overly complicated. That and the fact the body is so slow to load turned me off. I’m not sure if the HUD has had an update since release but it looked horrid to deal with.

      • Stuff and Things says

        05/02/2022 at 5:35 pm

        I love Legacy’s body, but for me, the HUD lags horribly. Maitreya’s HUD is quick. Both of them are easy enough to shape, though.

    • A-Kid says

      05/01/2022 at 8:54 pm

      Legacy has loading issues. I’m on a custom built gaming PC with a graphics card that’s nothing to sneeze at and tons of RAM. I can always tell who has a Legacy body, they will be the very last avatars to load in. If they ever do that is. Catwa heads are the same. Bunch of brains and pixel hearts when I go to events. It’s a poorly optimized body, both male and female.

    • sonny says

      05/01/2022 at 9:36 pm

      never seen issues? three words: SPAGHETTI TUBE ARMS.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        05/05/2022 at 12:07 am

        EXACTLY. Shapeless, boxy shoulders, tube arms, fat ugly wrists… fuck that body is so bad.

    • Wake Me Up Inside (Can't Wake Up) says

      05/02/2022 at 12:00 am

      I agree that Legacy is optimized like shit, but I agree with OP on that it’s rigging is actually one of the best. Having worked with rigging for pretty much all the popular bodies, Legacy was one of the few that didn’t make me go “wtf.”

      But optimization? Polycount? Script usage? HUD? Yeah no it’s fucking terrible in all those aspects.

  39. Bingo! says

    05/01/2022 at 6:22 pm

    #4- Evergarden isn’t gone forever, they’ve said they’re planning on coming back in the fall/winter. They had been planning on shutting down for the summer even before FH went down, from what I’ve heard. Running communities is stressful stuff, sometimes the admins want a break.

  40. redacted says

    05/01/2022 at 5:57 pm

    Maverick seems to have deleted his Flickr now, lol

    • joenonymous says

      05/01/2022 at 7:02 pm

      yo so what’s the app tho? I want to play with it lol

      • Christine says

        05/01/2022 at 8:17 pm

        “Photo Lab Picture Editor & Art” its a free app from google play store.

      • weird says

        05/02/2022 at 11:23 pm

        It’s prequel

  41. Tired of It says

    05/01/2022 at 5:36 pm

    #27 Lou from LuluB or whatever she changes her name to, changes her name because her previous ones have been used to call out her shitty behavior. This has been happening as long as she has been scamming people and the ability to change your username has been an option. I think the name ‘LuluB’ should now be her name since she can’t / won’t change that. All of everything regarding her and her store are synonymous of scamming and abusing those who will and have publicly stood against her BS, hence why she’s on VS practically every week. There are so many people that have been burned and will be burned by her in one way or another. We all wish she would leave SL completely, but as long as she can scam and be a scumbag in what she feels she can hide from repercussions she will be here.

  42. downwithunderboob says

    05/01/2022 at 5:27 pm

    #13: Quit patting yourself on the back so hard. You might get your elbow stuck in your ear. Idiots like you are the reason I alpha out or use BOM on my bits, and I’m not even SL famous.

    #15: 550L for a fatpack isn’t even that unreasonable. I usually use demos at stores that do that to tell if I can accept the base style and skip the others. I do still prefer stores like Magika that just give you the entire package for one (very reasonable) price though.

    #16: LOLNO. I’m not trying to be “realistic” in SL (whatever the eff that means). I hate carrying around purses and water bottles and keys, so why TF would I want to do it in SL? Does it hurt your immersion fee fees, OP?

    #29: Not commenting on that person, but “too short, too revealing, unimaginative” applies to about 75% of SL stores. When a person can look at Seraphim week after week and see the same damn dress 20 times, it’s unimaginative. I get it. Not everybody can mesh, and you have to start somewhere, but at least be creative with your texture HUDs. And not all of us want our crotches hanging out.

    • Cranberries says

      05/01/2022 at 6:52 pm

      #16 Lol…right? people walking around with their dumb SL iPhones or handbags, or doggos IN handbags, please. I just derender the lot.

    • Isabella says

      05/01/2022 at 10:10 pm

      #29 agree

    • Cookie says

      05/02/2022 at 1:11 pm

      You SHOULD use texture pantys.
      Is a fatpack for a hair so desirable? I prefer having one tone and different styles.
      True there’s no imagination in SL. Why would I be dressing likew a wh0re or like in real life…

  43. The Kept Wolf says

    05/01/2022 at 4:14 pm

    #12 – You sound like someone who learned what they know about BDSM from watching 50 Shades of Grey. Sit down and shut the fuck up. There are so many aspects and variants to a D/s relationship, and in some cases it’s fluid. Especially if the people involved are switches or the roles are fluid as well.

    #16 – Most people I know don’t go into SL for the “realism”. But yes. The 20 foot tall cat girl walking down the street totally needs to be carrying a handbag around with them.

    #46 – Hi. I’m a man. And I’m absolutely worth more than you and have a wife as well as friends who can attest that not only can I hold a candle to you, but I far exceed you. Sit down, shut the fuck up, and stop acting like an internet tough guy by talking to an afk person, you walking red flag. Ironic that you mentioned other men being Neanderthals when you yourself are acting like one. What a peach.

    #51 – You are on the wrong virtual world for that kind of Bible thumping.

    To all the gift card complaints. Stop. Take a breath. And understand that someone was copybotting giftcards. This is the store’s way of curtailing that and making sure they don’t get ripped off.

    • Lmao says

      05/01/2022 at 9:25 pm

      Cope harder beta

      • The Kept Wolf says

        05/01/2022 at 11:35 pm

        Looks like we found #12 or #46. Or both. lol. They’d probably get along swimingly.

        PS. You say beta like it’s an insult. Fuck off asshat.

      • Bleh says

        05/03/2022 at 12:03 am

        Found the incel.

    • Agree to Disagree a bit says

      05/02/2022 at 12:37 am

      #12 I agree a bit on number 12 but not entirely. Case in point Dusty Amulet. He is the fakest wanna be POS Daddy Dom ever. He has his “girls” who cover for him in public about his cam fetish and that he doesn’t have them cam for him while he spanks and directs.

      He does, I know I am ashamed because I fell into that sink hole with him. So did Skitz, She told me herself. Parker has even admitted it and she is not even banging him just sells his ass weed for lindens. She won’t even touch him because she knows better and knows what a fat fuck looser he is. Moonie or whatever she goes by now when she was with him just wanted his attention he couldn’t even handle that, she would tell me she cried because all she wanted was cuddles and his time and he couldn’t do that. Look at his profile and he talks about looking for frands, and his Max 2. Look at what he is really interested in and tell me I am really wrong, he is not a Daddy or a Dom. He is a fuckboy sugar daddy who throws around lindens and that is why he has a following.

      He couldn’t even Beet Jorge Moretti on his own show that was geared for him to probably win because he is such a bitch boy and a overall pussy.

      BTW did you know he started off SL as a sub, yes some people start as subs to learn but I think he never left it and just fakes his way through. If you think about it I bet Princess Tara runs the show.

      Her collar he bought her was of Stars and Moons….wasn’t that the favorite absolute favorite of his rl and sl live in ex if I am not mistaken? Maybe it is of hers too, but then again maybe not I am not sure I just remember seeing that picture once upon a time.

      Dusty you’re not a Dom, you’re a beta bitch boy who can’t even get it up in rl and need to get over your act.

      What you did to your ex was wrong and you are a true narcissist by definition. When these ladies catch on they are revolted they were ever with you and need therapy like I did to get over what you did to them.

      Stick to just being a friend nothing more.

    • Bruh says

      05/04/2022 at 4:35 am

      You can’t copybot giftcards

      It’s just shitty rumor started by someone with too much free time, and people who have no idea how shit works are eating it up.
      The grain of truth in this, is that few months ago some store was giving away free gift cards to anyone who joined their free group……. transferable gift cards. So people made fuckton of alts and just sent the giftcards to their mains. That’s not really copybotting tho, is it

  44. Bruh says

    05/01/2022 at 4:08 pm

    44 & 57: Dude seems like total piece of shit and a scammer, not only he spams people at clubs and hangouts, he goes to events to do that too… Was messaged by him at warehouse sale, he wanted 10k for this crap lol

  45. Curious says

    05/01/2022 at 3:56 pm

    Why are you posting so many of those Ruth posts? They’re pretty dumb. I know there are other posts about actual people that don’t make it through and those do for whatever reason.

    Weird.

    • Stir The Pot says

      05/01/2022 at 9:39 pm

      Grow a sense of humor.

      • :-) says

        05/02/2022 at 1:22 pm

        in what way are any of the ruth posts drama or “secrets?” like… guess the mark is being missed here lately.

      • Stir The Pot says

        05/02/2022 at 4:56 pm

        Would you rather see the 1000 secrets about “pedos”? Someone brought some humor to the page. Deal with it.

      • OhOkay says

        05/03/2022 at 3:37 pm

        I love me a good meme but these are genuinely not funny. Perhaps it was the first time.

    • omg says

      05/02/2022 at 2:57 pm

      Some love to beat their stupid memes into the ground. Remember the horrible, baby Yoda posts that flooded FB? Bandwagoners.

  46. Babe, chill says

    05/01/2022 at 3:41 pm

    12. You sound incredibly fragile.

    16. This is why I carry my giant baby maggot with me everywhere I go

    20. Damn this made me laugh

  47. Get your facts right says

    05/01/2022 at 3:32 pm

    4: Maybe you should get the truth from the people that run Evergarden before you waste your time making baseless posts. Evergarden had pulled out and told Alice they would no longer be staying before the decision to close Fox Hollow was made. In fact it was part of why the decision was made when it was because Alice would have been stuck paying for yet another sim out of pocket after Jacobs thievery. If they’re using Alice and her decision to close FH as a scapegoat then that just goes to show the kind of people that run a place you had so much fun at.

    18: She made a decision to save countless money each month as well as to have less stress no doubt from the incessant bitching that residents do on the daily. She really wasn’t played and is fully aware of Grimlocke. Calm down.

    • omg says

      05/02/2022 at 3:01 pm

      Please. Too bad she didn’t care when her people were screwing people over who wanted to keep paying for their own rentals but couldn’t.

      These owners should stop allowing those with money to ruin their towns. Charge more rent in the first place.

  48. K.G. says

    05/01/2022 at 3:23 pm

    Shame on you monkey boy Wesley your worse monkey pet a person ever adopted no wonder my sl family drop you alone with your friends Toby and Jason. You bitches are nothing but drama yeah hide on your Toby grid it good places where AP members go same as any other grid . Your that’s worry people going to black mail all of you. I agree with number 24.

    • KG says

      05/01/2022 at 8:12 pm

      I thought you said you don’t like to “generate drama” – so maybe stop using other people’s names for your posts? That’d be a start.

  49. Not Who You Think I Am says

    05/01/2022 at 3:18 pm

    #24 – Kippy, Jordy, Toby, Hansel? What the fuck kinds of names are these??? Sounds like some 1950s sitcom rejects.

    • A Corking Bit of Trumpet says

      05/01/2022 at 3:50 pm

      That would be a sitcom I would love to see, would be like The Brady Bunch meets some Wes Craven movie 
      💀

      • Mr Dumbshit says

        05/02/2022 at 4:53 pm

        Yes that would be nice. Then we can throw in his little brother Serverus into the backgrounds of the night. I wonder what fuckley is doing. that little bastard.

  50. Speaking facts says

    05/01/2022 at 3:16 pm

    #40 /41 : Let me take the magic guess here….that guy who harassed must have been djdollarbill mixemup aka the dude that walks up on everyone halfway decent looking female in the club and either IM’s or put “LOOKS” in local. Like who the fuck replies to such dumb shit anyways in any form? And while we’re at it….be more selective with your DJ’s, please! Nobody wants to know about your sexual performances with your harem of 3 chicks, turning a DJ set into a fucking forplay session with your bitches. Also nobody wants DJ’s who literally talk over every song they play or DJ’s how manage to spam their groupinvite 5 times in a 2 hours set (included an unwanted conference-chat you just get added to and being laughed at by that DJ when you call them out and tell them it’s not really cool”. ….and also the textures you put on the dancefloor for your friday events give me eyecancer, just saying. BUT…none the less, i love the club that has to be said aswell..even tho there are some negatives.

    • Stir The Pot says

      05/01/2022 at 9:45 pm

      You had me at “eye cancer”. LOL!

    • mrpeanutbutter says

      05/06/2022 at 1:07 am

      You had me at “LOOKS.”

  51. Srsly says

    05/01/2022 at 3:14 pm

    6: literally impossible to find a pose now that isn’t slouchy or sticking its belly out for men or women. Frustratingafter.

    16: what a hill to die on. Lmao

    22: dont trust an owner who names her venue after HERSELF. YESH YOU GOJNAAAAA

    25/26: We talking about millie branwen again?

    30: oh…apparently we are. Lmao fuck shitleash

    46:omg I’ve run into this guy at the AL dating sim. He’s a loose cannon and from what I’ve seen does this to absolutely every woman he speaks to.

    57: but like….what app is that? Asking for a friend. Lmao

    • TeaDrinker says

      05/01/2022 at 4:13 pm

      It’s the Prequel app

      • Christine says

        05/02/2022 at 3:06 am

        No. Its “Photo Lab Picture Editor & Art” A free app on google play store.

      • Yana says

        05/02/2022 at 5:07 am

        Prequel is available for iOS users

    • Sickandtiredofit says

      05/01/2022 at 6:34 pm

      It’s also hard to find a pose for women that isn’t pigeontoed.

      • ephemeral says

        05/01/2022 at 11:51 pm

        Poses or no poses, the Legacy body is pigeon-toed by default, and as far as I know there’s no fix for it. So this goes far beyond poses.

      • Cookie says

        05/02/2022 at 1:21 pm

        wow didn’t know that expression before. The more you know…
        If we are talking about maitreya.. well… the thing I hate most is the crotch.

    • What the says

      05/03/2022 at 8:36 am

      Cartoon apps are available for both Windows and Macs, as well as for phones. Even Photoshop can do this, you just need to learn how to do it. He isn’t doing anything exceptional and asking for 8000 Lindens is just a joke. Oh, and he is using an alt avatar.

  52. Spiro Agnew says

    05/01/2022 at 3:01 pm

    #The Maverick Quin one is kind of hilarious. I feel bad for people who paid him, but it was breathtakingly obvious he was using an app – albeit a pretty good one. You can see where the AI doesn’t quite know what to do around the hairbases and some blurriness where it can’t quite sort hair strands. When I was new I recall people charging 2k to run a pic through Prisma – Ars Amandi Gallery for one – and met loads of cranks using apps to “paint” or Photoshop Actions to create images. Some things never change. I’m sure a talented digital artist could knock these sort of images out in a few hours, but really? Would they? Ultimately people reward this kind of behaviour and fawn over this kind of trickery on Flickr on a daily basis.

    #The Flickr changes do feel a bit mean, but of course people will be annoyed when you remove something that was free and it’s jsut subscription creep. It feels like their attitude was all the people who upload RL porn images will cease and the SL flickr community will pay up as they are engaged. I’ll assume they don’t get much useful metadata from SL pics whereas RL pics give them way more useful metadata and chances are these people aren’t posting porn so I get why they want to charge.

    I’d argue though that some of the people who bought flickr pro in the past have contributed to this move – sersiouly if your flickr had only 400 pics why bother paying for pro? All you did was tell them SL users will pay up! Ok got that off my shoulder, but yes, a slightly unpleasant time for the SL flickr community!

  53. Yana says

    05/01/2022 at 2:55 pm

    44. He jumped in my IM and explained to me how he charges 10k per photo and linked his Flickr, I called him out for using the Prequel App and that I can do it myself for free AND put a backroung. Then he started giving me excuses how its not true and being a little bitch, so I blocked him. Later found out he spammed a lot of people in the club I work at. What an ass!

    • Bruh says

      05/01/2022 at 4:09 pm

      Dude seems like total piece of shit and a scammer, not only he spams people at clubs and hangouts, he goes to events to do that too… Was messaged by him at warehouse sale, he wanted 10k for this crap lol

      • Stir The Pot says

        05/02/2022 at 4:57 pm

        Club names? I wanna mess with this dude till he cries. LOL!

  54. Virtual Barbie says

    05/01/2022 at 2:35 pm

    #46 You’re the second person I’ve seen out his diatribe. Word. For. Word. He has this on copy paste. Lordt. He’s either mentally unstable or a troll.

    • Skye says

      05/01/2022 at 4:24 pm

      Yeah, he’s an incel menace. I met him through AvMatch too, and while it didn’t get THAT bad with me (I blocked him everywhere fairly quickly), he left a very kind and sweet friend of mine in tears with his vileness. Frankly, I’m surprised I haven’t seen him out here before. He’s a massive piece of shit.

      • Roo says

        05/01/2022 at 6:48 pm

        yeah i met him there 2 years ago. but what he said to me was sliightly different. i haave to share because im sorry this was a masterwork. 3 convos perfectly fine. Told him i had a bf in convo one. then he comes out 2 days later as im sleeping and the last thing i said was ai couldnt watch a movie because i was out irl. he comes out with — “I have tried, many times, to be nice and polite to you but you have chosen ignorance. Somebody who ignores civility, clearly isn’t a nice person and clearly has mental health issues and is a pathetic. Oh well… I probably intimidate you anyway. Punishing somebody, when they have said sorry, is called narcissism… It’s childish, low and pathetic. You’d clearly prefer to have a man who has few braincells, can’t even SPELL “creativity” and has the intellectual intelligence and emotional depth of stuffed goIdfish. I’ve been a singer, pianist, musician, writer and traditional artist for 27 years. I been a digital artist, 3D model artist and sculptor,texture artist and animator, using said skills to work with games engines (including Halo CE engine, Source, Unreal 3, Unreal 4 and Unity), for 18 years. I also do a lot of mechanical engineering, Women like YOU are undeserving of men like ME. Men who can do the things that I can, men who HAVE emotional depth and intelligence. You deserve men who are Neanderthals, men who are total wankers and have NOTHING to offer you. You’re clearly an extremely bland individual and you have nothing to offer me at all. YouIre probably fatty in real life, too! Fact. I do prefer women to be at least leaning towards slender built, and not little porkers. You probabIy have such low self esteem and worth that you consider yourself to be unworthy of men like me. So you settle for littIe bitch-ass men who have ZERO talent because it makes you feel good about yourself. Let’s face it Men like me? Hard to beat. I literally, and metaphorically, tower above all other men but women like you prefer men who they can look down on, and you most certainly are unworthy of men like me. I’d spit in your fat face but the brilliance of my DNA would make your head explode. Now fuck off you sad, pathetic little bitch, I have a sim. I have multiple, incredible talents. I’m tall and handsome IRL (as in first life picture). You’ll be settling for the outcasts, the lesser men. The reason THOSE men want you is because they’re literally the brainless scum of SL. They don’t know any better. I also have a sim. So it’s YOUR loss, it truly is.

  55. You're Basic says

    05/01/2022 at 2:32 pm

    1. The modern Roleplay Community is filled with has beens and wanabe losers and creepy weirdos who’ve turned to SL to cope with how terrible their real life is.

    3. Why do you think so many events have SO many booths? The event owners make a killing when I’m sure many of the participants barely break even

    27.,48. Buying Giftcards in SL is the dumbest thing, no idea why they even exist

    38. 95% of all items made in SL are derived from art or real life, at least they changed it up a bit

    • What a mesh says

      05/01/2022 at 2:49 pm

      #3 I can’t believe that these prices are real. C’mon designers! Wake up! Why you have to pay so much just to participate anywhere. 15000? Or even 8k? You only make event organizers rich as hell. Especially for an event like Epiphany? It’s only going down and down till it reaches the bottom. I didn’t even know it still exists.

    • Being Honest says

      05/01/2022 at 5:47 pm

      I don’t think it’s fair to call everyone in the “modern roleplay community” ‘creepy weirdos’. There are a lot of absolute nonces, yes, but not everyone is awful. I have met a lot of really good people that have become long time friends in RP communities and I continue to do so. Any where you turn there will be ‘creepy weirdos’ and unfortunately the ones in the RP communities tend to get away with a lot of gross behavior.

  56. A Corking Bit of Trumpet says

    05/01/2022 at 2:31 pm

    Re 24.

    So the AP bitches could not let it lie, so again there has to be some clarity into the AP crowd and some of its key members predisposal.

    I have to laugh because the truth of the matter is, that these kids were already isolated by Hansel Earthboy, Toby and whatever user base needs agenda. That and his means of grabbing the ears of anyone that would and could listen, because the Bank of Hansel just keeps on giving. You know that song “You gotta pay the Troll Toll”? It is very true, hired troll mercenary’s. How very fucking noble!! . If you ask anyone worth their own honesty, they will tell you that Arbordale operated a money throwing policy. This had two very clear operative hidden agendas. If you look at Hansel, I mean really look at Hansel, you will find one very clear cut operating narcissist, who will gather anyone and any ear, to isolate and make his victims look bad.
    The question you have to ask yourself is not just what he does but why he does it.
    I mean here are two kids, who pointed out Hansel a long time ago, for being less than sincere, two faced, contrary to any reason other than what he has fixated in his mind as “a problem”.

    I mean its not as if its not the truth, many could agree with that and have. Over the last couple of weeks, more have come out about Hansel and the Edlund clan backstabbing friends. To the point they took an extended time out of SL, so pissed about being shafted by the usual brand of Fuckboy sincerity.

    You already isolated these kids a long time ago by choice, you slated them constantly by choice, you spun lies and various defamatory gossip to isolate them by choice. All because it suited Hansel and his fucked up deluded ideals, that they were doing worse to him than anyone else. The rest follow the money because lack of the same inconsistent morals. I mean look at what happens… as according to Hansel “bad people” do not talk to you. Well that’s the trick you see ? If you are naturally biased, prejudiced and discriminatory on certain people for smaller issues, and judge them against much worse accounts of what your “buddies” do. Then they will call you out and it is fair to.

    I mean is it really justifiable and forgivable for your friends, to allow you to spend $3000 US Dollars for a partnership contract, with Toby’s brother who (a) did not love you and did it only for the money. And who also (b) were quite happy to show the people who did not like you and actually laughed in your face, that you could be such a desperate cuck. Yet piss on these other kids because they called you out for being less than sincere and a two faced bitch ? Don’t deny it, most others can also claim the same even your friends. Those who are not in that gang-pile at least!!

    Not only that but you were pissed other friends were making friendships with people you disapproved of. Even going so far as to set false narratives and accusations on such others to place wedges between people. On subjects that Hansel himself has surrounded himself in , Ageplay grids, Shota and Lolicon and all this other exotic fap material. All because he and his assorted friends had a biased pick on certain kids not involved with that hot mess of a group over the years. Excuse me but are you looking at yourself clearly? Especially when the people you are vilifying, would have done nothing so cruel and demeaning as to extort money from you, laugh at you and treat your feelings as lesser than their own. I mean what warped fucking mind does this, knowing the equally fucked up degenerates they are promoting ? Really???

    I mean we know this all came from someone higher up the chain. How can people instantly avoid and dislike people they have never met, other than what’s been passed down the gossip line for years. Without some negative intervention going on and has done. its already been clearly stated before!!

    What pisses you off is the individuals you have a pick on, ironically have better friends than you do. None of them are asking for money for friendship contracts, attention for spinning $7000 a night for people to entertain themselves. Good God Hansel, you need to lay off the hate and go talk to some nice people in RL for a good evaluative opinion. If friends doing what they do to you is acceptable, then you are beyond redemption. These kids don’t want to be in your group, who the fuck wants to be in with people like that that? And its not just that, its constant back-baiting because that is your obsessive issue. In the end you caused that, it sure is not these kids to blame. And it was sure NOT those kids inviting known kid trolls to use Arbordale as a hunting ground to pick targets. But we know who did !!

    P.S is this the only fucking scandal that’s good for you ? Or did we forget the Sansar Loki scandal that’s more prevalent? Oh I forgot, Loki is Hansel’s friend. Gotta love that that, surrounded by darker shit but we NEED to pick on the people calling you dysfunctional?? And you claim you not bias? Yeah…right !!

    • And I Oop says

      05/02/2022 at 5:02 am

      Well damn.

    • Cookie says

      05/02/2022 at 1:26 pm

      a wall of text..

    • sad boy aesthetic says

      05/02/2022 at 8:07 pm

      u both loved each other though in past. Hansel spoke gentle of u and ur cuddle. u should make up for new beginning.

      • A Corking Bit of Trumpet says

        05/03/2022 at 11:36 am

        In fairness you should not be starting issues on issues. I appreciate your posts last week, especially the screen shots of Toby blaming other people for his ban.
        That was proof enough on what I been talking about this week, to show what vile personalities they are. Thank You !

        But your interjections to cause more drama don’t help.
        Pick a side, do it well. Thanks !!
        Hansel needs a cuddle? Perhaps but not from me. From the way he has behaved, then the only cuddle worthy from me, would be via a weighted pillow across his face as he slept.
        Think about that one now !

      • sad boy aesthetic says

        05/03/2022 at 11:56 am

        ok im on ur side now

      • Jason Crowley says

        05/03/2022 at 1:11 pm

        Keep my brother name out of your mouth

  57. Knot from Astoria, Queens, NYC says

    05/01/2022 at 2:30 pm

    #43 Take the tin foul hat off and stop reading QAnon material., it’s clouding your judgement in both worlds now.

    #44 & 57 I heard about this Guy from 3 girls this week, he apparently hangs at Exhale, Peak Lounge and Club 511 and offers to do Girls profile pics for 500 linden, i’m guessing the ones who catch his eye, then charges other people 5K for a pic i’m guessing dudes and female avis who don’t pass his eye test. His MO is he says he uses only photoshop and watercolors only and he hides away for an hour then gives you the pic making out it takes a lot of his time to a pic, i’ve also seen a IM from 4 days ago of him cussing someone out who showed him the link to the app that he actually uses.

    • Fickle says

      05/01/2022 at 4:05 pm

      He approached me at 511 and wanted to charge 3k for what is obviously a template that probably takes 2 seconds to use. I told him, if you get in my box, you pay me, not the other way around. Models don’t pay the photographer do they? To that he used every obscenity I can think of. Meanwhile, a guy standing next to me was asked to pay 5k for one of these pics. Once he got rejected, he cussed that guy out as well. This was reported to the club owner (by yet a 3rd person), since soliciting for funds is a huge issue. Hopefully the guy gets banned. His excuse for swearing at everyone the second he got rejected was that he felt we were all being mean for rejecting his “work.” Cry me a river.

    • Bruh says

      05/01/2022 at 4:09 pm

      Dude seems like total piece of shit and a scammer, not only he spams people at clubs and hangouts, he goes to events to do that too… Was messaged by him at warehouse sale, he wanted 10k for this crap lol

  58. Sickandtiredofit says

    05/01/2022 at 2:27 pm

    #51 Almost couldn’t stop laughing to post.  😂 

    You do realize only 1/3 of the world’s population is Christian? As in, they don’t believe Jesus was anyone’s savior or son? Maybe you need to get out more often.

  59. Hood Kermit says

    05/01/2022 at 2:27 pm

    These Ruth secrets are entertaining.

    1 – I don’t care for CC but saying all the events are for kids is a reach. The only recent event they had for kids was thrown by the school itself and they still barely have any teachers or students from Lucy’s destruction. There’s plenty of bad things that are actually true about CC so you shouldn’t have had to fabricate anything just to advertise New Haven.

    18 – People are saying Grimlocke has been in the works since February and that it is run by the exact same crowd. Is this true?

    24 – What is the drama? I understand everyone hating Toby but what’s the deal with the other three?

    45 – Why do people waste so much energy every week trying to tell and convince people what body to wear?

    • Truth says

      05/01/2022 at 3:10 pm

      This time its a creator’s perspective trying to show you how much of a hassle they go through to make an outfit fit that specific body.

    • Call me a bitch like it's a bad thing says

      05/01/2022 at 6:10 pm

      Yes, Grimlocke is ran by the original owner of FH, Taissa. It’s funny how she conveniently has this new community that magically comes in to save the day when FH closes. It’s literally copy and paste.

      • Me says

        05/01/2022 at 9:32 pm

        Taissa does not run Grimlocke. Get your facts straight. She isn’t even the creator of Grimlocke.
        Grimlocke was already open before FH closed.

      • Lupe Loophole says

        05/01/2022 at 10:26 pm

        Lol. If you guys stop by Forgotten Sea, you’ll see that there is a new name called haven-something. The Vidars (PUBLIC owners of Gridlocke) probably got scared of some of the bad press and ousted Tai. Now, she owns the old FH Sims and is most likely looking to start a new sim. Bear, Alice, Tai and all of them made off with the FH money and are looking to do something new. Jacob (who is coming back on an alt) was their scapegoat. The Black/Fears played the family community of SL. We’d be dumb to let them back into our pockets.

      • omg says

        05/02/2022 at 3:10 pm

        ALTS all

      • Justice Truther says

        05/02/2022 at 8:17 pm

        ya the alts go all the way back to TA and beyond

      • Lupe Loophole says

        05/03/2022 at 2:04 pm

        Be on the lookout for Silverhaven I guess!

      • Hood Kermit says

        05/04/2022 at 12:48 pm

        Another community that will join the others on VS weekly as soon as it gets rented out probably.

      • Call me a bitch like it's a bad thing says

        05/02/2022 at 3:53 pm

        ROFL she was a financial backer, and the entire place screams Taissa. My facts are from good sources. I know Grimlocke was already open.

    • lol says

      05/01/2022 at 6:37 pm

      Grimlocke has been around for a few months and Taissa is involved so even if its different people its not really different people. Same trainwreck different name.

      • Me says

        05/01/2022 at 9:34 pm

        So the fact she does landscaping automatically makes her involved with management? Definitely not.
        It’s ran by a whole different group of people outside of FH.

    • Me says

      05/01/2022 at 7:07 pm

      Grimlocke has different management than FH. And has been in talks for some time now.

  60. Who asked? says

    05/01/2022 at 2:25 pm

    RUTH

  61. You are weird says

    05/01/2022 at 2:21 pm

    #29 So what is the point of this post? She has the right to go at any event and just shop nothing. She says she didn’t like anything. Why do you have a problem with that? Are you a designer of these events? I don’t get it. Everyone can have his personal taste.

  62. Just a guy says

    05/01/2022 at 2:20 pm

    #40. I worked for a club called Club Necromancer a long ass time ago, and I can tell you this club with how you summed it up sounds STRANGELY just like it, unfortunately this is what club working in SL has been dumbed down to.

  63. smh says

    05/01/2022 at 2:19 pm

    3 – would be great to know what this little spreadsheet is from, but you’re not representing those prices fairly. You can clearly see that some of them are sponsor prices. Epiphany is a pale shadow of the event it used to be, so I’m quite sure the organizers know their days are numbered. Even before the gacha ban, that event was on the decline. It won’t last the year, in my opinion.
    13 – sad
    17 – we need more designer-positive posts. thank you
    22 – girl is off her meds or something
    27, 47 – not that I know for sure, but several top-name stores have also done this or similar, including one I know the owner of personally. It was something to do with a hacker/scammer getting into the card system and exploiting/stealing.
    28 – I stopped posting to flickr groups bcs they’re either clique/elitist or not moderated at all, likely this one isn’t.
    30 – LOL we love a broken mesh moment
    31-33 – ALL HAIL RUTH
    34 – don’t shop there then
    35 – same
    46 – yikes
    51 – didn’t know this sort of post was allowed on VS. how fun this will be.
    52 – i love you

    • Cookie says

      05/02/2022 at 1:39 pm

      Every group on flickr has rules, I always try to abide by them and read it to know. But when I see the photostreem there is a ton of them not following the rules from days and days back.
      And yes, there are many elitist groups. They ONLY want photoshopped pics. And that’s artificial.

  64. Ya Know says

    05/01/2022 at 2:18 pm

    #45 I have never had a problem with my maitreya body breaking or looking bad at the waist. Could be the skin applier the person is using.

    • Truth says

      05/01/2022 at 3:15 pm

      The body IS broken on the waist, this is the rigg we’re talking about and I’m gonna show you:

      https://i.gyazo.com/9073bba67e69f2a155228426f73aa458.png
      https://i.gyazo.com/4270795bf0cde524fbfa398a2a3cdd3c.png

      (images from the unmodified dev kit, the exact SAME happens inworld, and that jagged broken spot is the cause of many headaches when designers are rigging for maitreya)

      • sonny says

        05/01/2022 at 9:34 pm

        can we mention maitreya shoulders and inner thighs too? the shoulders have too many influences TOO. spaghetti tube arms.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        05/02/2022 at 10:49 am

        I love that you are showing these things! Besides the broken spots, you can see how the mesh has barely any detail in it, and how rough the edges are as well. Kupra is an ugly body, but the edges are sooo much smoother than Maitreya. I don’t know whether those people who think it looks ok are just low graphics users so everything looks jagged, or just kinda blind, or ultimately too cheap to start over.

    • Truth says

      05/01/2022 at 3:19 pm

      And here is Kupra just so everyone can see it

      https://i.gyazo.com/033a6f978462a22534fceda8ad0a1d42.png

      See how it breakes when you rotate (pose around) the joints? yeah, that’s how it was made believe me.

      • Cookie says

        05/02/2022 at 1:39 pm

        what a shitty body my gosh…

    • sonny says

      05/01/2022 at 9:37 pm

      i bet you a million someone has seen you with maitreyas flyaway boob. and maitreya arms are tubes that are so badly rigged, with more than the 4 weight limits sl has, which is why clothes look like crap when the collarbone breaks on it.

  65. Tom cool cat says

    05/01/2022 at 2:16 pm

    #1 Juliet is petal and has been seen having sex with other teens in CC ( sawyer fallenwynter and allistar) so yes she is a pedo, beware CC citizens!!! Good job hiring this disgusting trash as your school principal, us fox citizens have seen her in action

    • That_Weird_Pimple_Pedo_Kid says

      05/01/2022 at 4:08 pm

      Y’all sloppy, I been in relationships, but it don’t mean I’m a pedo, it’s called being in love

      • Stir The Pot says

        05/01/2022 at 9:48 pm

        Wait. Hold up a second. Did you just condone underage “love”? Please tell me you are not an adult on SL boning a teen….oh I’m sorry, “in love with a teen”.

      • Not who you think this is says

        05/01/2022 at 11:26 pm

        Look at his name. He’s a kid who was in love with another kid. Don’t mean they ageplayed.

      • Stir The Pot says

        05/05/2022 at 10:25 pm

        Anyone can make up a name. Just because he put “kid” in his name, doesn’t mean he’s a kid. LOL! I can put Marilyn Monroe in my name, doesn’t mean I’m her.

      • Not who you think this is says

        05/06/2022 at 11:39 pm

        He rps a kid that is why he uses it here. Just because he puts “kid” doesn’t mean he “isn’t ” one either. So yeah your point is ??? 😂

      • Justice truther says

        05/02/2022 at 3:49 pm

        I thin this thing has been blown way out of proportion…..
        everyone knows that Juliet is far from a pedo in fact she is hated by FH because when she discovered pedo activity in their orphanage and exposed it they did nothing
        that is why she left there LOL everyone knows that so I am sure that anyone accusing her of being pedo is probably the actual pedo crew that got run out of FH
        those pedo orphanage were into beast too you don’t see that being discussed because they are STILL afraid of being exposed but wiht Jacob on the run it is all coming out and so you will see names of people doing DOWN like Boston and Alikat and Nobs and the rest of them
        TBH it is only here that the BS of the FH pedo-beast ring is getting spread and good places like CC are being attacked because in the actual grid the Lindens and Admins are ban ban banning because nobody believes the BS and someone is finally doing something about the truth instead of sweeping it under the carpet like when Juliet tried to expose it
        so many people are going down and even the HAVEN wont save them LMAO

      • Being Honest says

        05/03/2022 at 1:33 am

        What’s sad is that I don’t think they’re trolling either.

      • That weird pimple kid says

        05/03/2022 at 8:27 am

        Oh look somebody is trying to impersonate me (Chaz)

      • And I Oop says

        05/03/2022 at 10:30 am

        They are still upset you didn’t take them
        to roleplay prom.

      • And I Oop says

        05/03/2022 at 10:46 am

        This shit was a little funny in the past but now it’s old. You Cedar brood ,young blood gang, whatever you call yourselves, do all the same shit you accused pimple faced kid of doing. You played the war on this site to get rid of the other group so you horny little fucks could roam the streets instead. Two of you ladies tried to seduce me but I only like dick.

    • The Facts bro says

      05/01/2022 at 7:37 pm

      This is mere gossip and speculation shame on you!

    • Justice Truther says

      05/02/2022 at 8:15 pm

      LOL what? does anybody really believe that? Ramesh and Henry and Juliet all left you fox citizens back in fall of last year because they went to the admins about all the pedo stuff going on at the orphanage and it was covered up by the admins!!! and that was not just pedo play but pedo and bestiality play LMAO

      so this went on for more than half a year after people tried to expose what was going on at fox hollow and then just rn away to get away from it and away from you “fox citizens” and now that Jacob is busted and a lot of others are getting banned the accusations start here? you and those like you are making accusations here on virtual secrets because you are getting banned in world huh? so it looks like revenge on those who tried to expose them. you couldnt get away with it in world and so then you are coming on here and trashing those who tried to bust ya!!! a case of the pedo calling the one that BUSTED them the pedo! the only action you probably saw was the weird scenes with dogs and teens you tried to get those people involved with LOL

      well they are all onto you…..they being every admin in every PG rp sim! you can run off to newhaven or whatver but the truth will catch up especially since Jacob is STILL talking and the links between everyone from Bostonheavy to Vespoli to Jace to Kenny are all coming out all the alts are coming out……

      so yeah keep counting the seconds you still have an account because the Fears are still talking and the ones they protected are geting busted no matter how big a business they run….your tries at dragging the good people and places into the dirt are SO predictable….oif you had proof you would have used but it but you don’t because the proof is aimed at YOU! tik tok you sore losers

  66. VS Tea Sipper says

    05/01/2022 at 2:14 pm

    15. 550? For a blogger pack? Sweet. Sounds good to me.

    Better than paying 1500L for a fatpack/blogger pack ect.

    Don’t like the prices? Make your own.

    Also loving all of these Ruth memes. 😂😂

    • Stir The Pot says

      05/01/2022 at 6:04 pm

      15 – RIGHT! I’m glad they started doing the blogger pack again.

      ALL HAIL RUTH!

    • Cookie says

      05/02/2022 at 1:43 pm

      your reply sound like it comes from a child or immature adult.

  67. Kittyfox McMeep-Derp Related says

    05/01/2022 at 2:13 pm

    #30 I’m going to leave this here for another week. This person needs to be outed on her behavior and business practices. Event hosts should be aware of the person they have featured at events. Read below for an accurate reply to my original post. It’s important vulnerable male and female subs be warned about Millie Branwen.

    After being friends with Millie from Short Leash for almost four years here’s what I’ve learned…

    1. Do not tell her anything personal. She will give your personal information to others if she does not like you or after a falling out.
    2. If she does not have any of your personal information she will make up things about you. She lies to cover up her own toxicity. She likes calling people stalkers to play victim.
    3. If you are a blogger or creator don’t go into business with her or share your ideas. She will use your business ties and steal your ideas.
    4. Have a great sim idea and want to create a new sim? Don’t tell her about it. She will attempt to steal it or create something similar.
    5. If you are becoming a friend then avoid helping her with her store sim or Discord. She uses all of her friends for this purpose.
    6. If you have to work with her have little interaction with her. She talks about everyone behind their back. She even talks about her best friends.
    7. You have a great product and she offers to support it? Don’t. Do it on your own. She’s just looking to grab attention for herself.
    8. She asks for mesh help? Don’t help her. You will get no credit and nothing in return.
    9. She makes a lot of male and female alts to go to stores selling similar products.
    10. Do you see a product in her store that you like and want to buy? Look on the marketplace for the same product. Don’t worry she’s already copied it from someone else and there’s a better version of it in SL.
    11. Millie is drama and supports drama. Don’t support well known leech egotistical RACIST copybotter Purrinne Sulfur aka Meep Uwu, Verinne Ansar, kittyfox.exe? Of course this is her CSR blogger manager and Discord group moderator. Toxic people like other toxic people.

    Not only business related but be careful little subs. An accurate reply to my post.

    MILLIE BRANWEN IS THE DEVIL
     Reply to  Verinne Ansar Related
     12 days ago

    I knew Millie Branwen from a distance when she was still running Twin Peaks, and after she opened Short Leash I became involved with her and the family. I can honestly say that MILLIE BRANWEN IS A MANIPULATIVE PEOPLE USER that takes advantage of lonely and vulnerable people.
    She has a way of talking to you that makes you feel like the most important person in the world, and her mantra to her herd of LONELY SUBMISSIVES is that they need to “Make money for Mommy.” Her personal space on the Short Leash sim is even set up where everyone in the family has a DESK so they can take pride in making her money. If you dare to ask for credit, you’ll be chastised in front of the whole group. But the truth of it is that once you stop being useful to her, she’ll dump you on the side of the road to rot.
    Even people inside her little cult of personality community. Short Leash, she uses and manipulates people for free labor. Lonely girls and desperate guys that run her events, moderate her discord groups, and even provide services to her for free.
    Avoid her, the Short Leash Community, and anyone that does business with this horrible human being.

    • Sickandtiredofit says

      05/04/2022 at 8:03 pm

      208 upvotes? How many sock puppets did you have voting?

      • Smh says

        05/06/2022 at 9:43 pm

        lol truth hurt Millie?

  68. Get a 'kin grip says

    05/01/2022 at 2:13 pm

    #15 – I can’t believe that you’re actually bitching about a creator charging 550L$ for a whole fatpack of various colours and tones, with accessories and 4 different styling options – and calling THEM a ‘greedy fuck’. The only ‘greedy fuck’ i see in this post, is the OP.

    Instead of crying over having to spend an extra 50L$ on a great value product and then going to the effort of letting everyone know who reads this website by posting about how much of a cunt you are, try doing your homework and checking out other hair creators and comparing their prices and then do a cross reference check on how much 550L$ is worth in real money, multiply that price by the hours they spend to produce their product and turn it into a real wage – then speak. Until then, take a seat and be grateful you’re not paying the cost of a basic minimum hourly wage for this product made because you couldn’t even afford it !

    • Stir The Pot says

      05/01/2022 at 6:05 pm

      I love Truth but I’d rather pay 550 than 1000. At this point, I almost own more Doux than Truth. RANDOM PERSON says, “Doux is cheap cause their hair clips in my back.”. Does Doux hair sometimes clip? Yeah, but guess what? It’s your upper body shape. Doux and other hair makers can’t account for EVERY body shape so it’s gonna happen. Buy it or don’t but don’t bitch about it cause you have amazon shoulders.

      • Get a 'kin grip says

        05/01/2022 at 6:20 pm

        I love Truth too and to be honest, i think anyone would rather pay 550L$ over 1000L$ but even at 1000L$, the OP doesn’t seem to have the braincells to grasp the fact that they are still getting great value for money. I think a lot of people who complain about prices in SL, miss that whole point that if they were to pay for the time spent by each creator on a basic minimum wage, per hour, for the product made, it would be a hell of a lot more than even 1000L$  🙄  👍 

    • Cookie says

      05/02/2022 at 1:46 pm

      hours? those hours aren’t multiplied every time someone buys one stuff. It is digital.

  69. N.O. says

    05/01/2022 at 2:07 pm

    #46 – yeah that guy is VERY unhinged. he did the same thing to me when I met him on AVMatch years ago. He is psychotic. He’s all nasty talk – he has his settings so that you can only IM him if you are friends – so he spews that disgusting, misogynistic bullshit and then unfriends you so you can’t respond to him. That is the most pathetic humblebrag in history – cause he spends money on sims in SL. You dodged a bullet!!!! I am sure other women in SL have had the same experience with him. Thank you for showing the world what a pathetic Incel he is.

    • Ladies Beware says

      05/01/2022 at 2:29 pm

      He literally just sent me the exact same message on discord because I didn’t respond to him. 😂😂😂 like WORD FOR WORD. He must have this saved somewhere to use as ammo. That’s fucking hilarious!

      • Pathetic man baby says

        05/01/2022 at 4:11 pm

        Even more pathetic he has to save stuff like that and isnt creative enough to come up with individual insults with his big brained self. lmaoo I have no idea who this “man” even is, but he seems like a pathetic ass man-child who has no balls to stand up for himself in RL so it makes him feel big and bad to do it on the internet. lmaooo pathetic

    • Virtual Barbie says

      05/01/2022 at 2:36 pm

      Second time I’ve seen this exact diatribe this week.

    • Panda says

      05/01/2022 at 2:38 pm

      Lmao! Dude he’s absolutely insane. He sent me that exact exact same message and some racial slurs after I deleted him.

    • FU2 says

      05/01/2022 at 2:47 pm

      Gotta admit he has an incredible talent, being a enormous sack of shit and a creep with a lot of issues! Lol…

    • Virtual Barbie says

      05/01/2022 at 3:05 pm

      And it looks like he’s on here cause we’re all getting the same downvote!

    • Petunia says

      05/01/2022 at 4:10 pm

      He’s changed it since I got my copy and paste tirade…which in no way applied to me or the brief interaction I had with him.

    • Skye says

      05/01/2022 at 5:30 pm

      Looks like he FINALLY got kicked off of AvMatch. I couldn’t find his profile, so I checked my blocked list out there. He was still on my list, so I clicked on his name, and nothing came up. Took long enough.

      • N.O. says

        05/01/2022 at 6:32 pm

        yeah i went to look for him too – he either got booted from avmatch or he deleted his profile and he’ll come back like the slithering slug he is. he’s an abuser – he will not go away for long unfortunately. hopefully he was booted and since you do have to enter your actual sl name into avmatch to join – he will be gone for good.

      • Petunia says

        05/01/2022 at 7:19 pm

        He has at least one alt, that he used to also abuse me on, So wouldn’t surprise me if he is lurking there somewhere still.

        And I hope they banned him. I reported his abuse of me to the site but never heard back.

      • Chef's Kiss says

        05/02/2022 at 1:35 pm

        I know of 3 alts belonging to him.

      • Babs says

        05/02/2022 at 3:56 pm

        The turd #46 changed his SL profiles in the last 24 hours (both name above and one of his alts) to say he is “happily taken” which is a *trip* to consider. What a loser, hiding behind the guise of a relationship instead of defending his actions with his so-called “intellectual intelligence.”Or maybe a lie? Bc what quality woman would be attracted to his tantrums? My guess is he only inactivated his AVMatch.

    • Em says

      05/01/2022 at 6:16 pm

      The amount of chicks he’s sent those exact words to, word for word, is insane. I was just skimming the convo and laughed, because I also got the exact same spiel from him after talking with him ( more like him going on and on about him and his MANY TALENTS ) for a week. Dude is seriously unhinged.

  70. a shadow says

    05/01/2022 at 2:07 pm

    1. I wouldn’t say all rp involves kids. Plenty of crime goin on not kid involved, and lots of shops and places to go. Events perhaps involves kids because it is touted as a family roleplay. The key is getting your story going and weaving it into the rest of the town. and I call BS on ANY place being drama free. I am pretty damn sure even just a place that rents houses and doest even have a rp set up has drama. That’s just how life is. There is drama.
  71. Juices J says

    05/01/2022 at 2:06 pm

    24 I agree with this both dudes sound very horrible whatever community is this we need to change it. Who knows whats next bannings or degrading people because you can’t learn to stay out of people business and manipulating people like hypocrites there are. You two should be a shame of yourselfs soon or later you will face legal actions for your crimes. Youth Nation is a underground world cult meeting places. There enough evidences to show proof what you two do.

    • KG says

      05/01/2022 at 6:40 pm

      I doubt Kippy’s upset if that’s the kind of crowd he’s being “isolated” from. 🙃

    • A Corking Bit of Trumpet says

      05/02/2022 at 10:53 am

      Bring it on, i’m sure the courts would love to investigate the going on of that grid. Let’s not talk about the levels of cyberbullying going through various individuals of those groups spanning years. There is enough evidence to prove that and more!!

      The reason these things happen is because exactly that, people not only stay out of peoples business but cause multiple levels of defamation online. A good level of hypocrisy, defamation as well as intention to cause financial/ emotional and mental abuse through sabotage through abusing online communities. That’s only the tip of a very big iceberg. You go rethink your statement Juices, you sure not have thought them out clearly !!

      Word has it one of those kids has already seen legal representation on what went on. You keep your proof, i’m sure a lawyer will cut shreds out of it 🙂 The manipulation is clearly going on between key members of YN and Arbordale. And I am sure the people that would represent those two kids if called to legality, would come from higher authority and standing!
      Lets not even begin to talk of key witnesses and their statements, damning to say the least!

      Maybe you should look at your friends and what their part in the situations are, before claiming legality !! However, you have not done that and with your tone of view, come out as corrupted with an invested cause!!
      It is however cheaper to cut the crap and embarrassment and admit that some people have been less than fair to others. Maybe quicker they do that and less pride, the better communities will be. Don’t think they will be easy bought either !!

      “Underground world cult meeting places” if you want to call it that, I’m sure that’s what you would call it. Most others would call it something else !

    • Theodoric says

      05/02/2022 at 11:09 am

      “soon or later you will face legal actions for your crimes” You actually wrote this with a straight face? Fuck me, people still threatening others with lawyers after all this time…

      • A Corking Bit of Trumpet says

        05/02/2022 at 11:47 am

        IKR? And the subject of the material on the grid Toby was promoting ?

        I mean I know Toby don’t care a fuck about other people but he sure not thinking of the people in Europe using his grid.

        I laugh because they don’t fucking think before they talk. You would have thought it be far easier for those responsible, to come out the door, hands up and just admit they been assholes.
        Its not as if what they been saying is not libel either, using their groups to condition minds on a fake narrative, other than each others salt. Its ludicrous !!

  72. Not A Fan says

    05/01/2022 at 2:01 pm

    #51 LMAO yes it’s Sunday, but we don’t want or need the sermon. Save it for your SL Church, not a gossip website.

    • N.O. says

      05/01/2022 at 2:16 pm

      Seriously. In RL or SL – keep your religion to your damn self.

  73. Bow before his greatness says

    05/01/2022 at 2:00 pm

    #46 would decimate EVERYONE in vc. So scary. Whys he got his panties in a twist anyway? Seems like he’s totally too hot and handsome for the likes of SL people.

    • Srsly says

      05/01/2022 at 3:23 pm

      Not sure if sarcasm or just him… 🤔

      • N.O. says

        05/01/2022 at 3:46 pm

        not sarcasm at all – if you don’t respond to him IMMEDIATELY or message him EVERY SINGLE DAY he freaks the hell out.

      • Roo says

        05/01/2022 at 7:01 pm

        yup he got mad at me after legit 3 convos and had this whole rant.. seems like mine was a bit more expanded then the one posted here. i was laughing soo hard.. its like omg after 2 years hes still up to the same tricks.

      • Stir The Pot says

        05/01/2022 at 9:43 pm

        It’s totally him. Or it’s some poor girl he got to believe his bs. LOL!

        *waits for his thumbs down cause it’s comin’*  😎 

      • Stir The Pot says

        05/02/2022 at 5:04 pm

        Hey! I GOT MY THUMBS DOWN! I can rest easy now.  🙄 

  74. A-Kid says

    05/01/2022 at 2:00 pm

    23- That’s because there are two different ways of measuring heights – agent height (it’s where your eyes are) and prim height (how tall you actually are). The bigger number is always the correct one, the official viewer uses agent height. You are 6’5″.

    • A-Kid says

      05/02/2022 at 6:36 am

      Not sure why that got downvotes but it’s how SL works. Agent height is default in most games because it’s the height of where your eyes are and affects your camera, especially in first person. Prim height is how tall you actually are and you should always go by prim height in SL.

      If you want tools to help show your proportions as well as a prim height pose stand that will give your real height, you can pick up this for 0L – https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Shape-Tools/1835986 It’s old but still very useful.

      I guess I’ll drop another bombshell before I go – part of the reason SL is scaled so weird is because of the default camera angle. If buildings were built to proper scale, the default camera angle would get stuck in the ceiling, walls, or roof a lot. Try playing The Sims with the walls up and you’ll see what I mean. Things were purposely made bigger to give the feeling of space.

  75. What a winner.... says

    05/01/2022 at 9:57 pm

    What….. just because you didnt fall immediately at his feet, lick his awesome and so powerful, yet masculine and hairy toes, worship every single word he dared utter in your presence and wait for him to allow you to speak…… rude!

  76. Chef's Kiss says

    05/02/2022 at 1:28 pm

    I’ve ran in to this one before too. He’s a raving lunatic…has several alts. He’s a major creep.

  77. lawlkthxbye says

    05/05/2022 at 12:21 am

    http://www.avmatch.com/browse/1/41991-CreatorofSongandDream last I saw he had his RL photos posted. Trust me when I say, he looks like a smelly transient so it cracks me up when he claims to be tall and handsome lawl what a delusional fuck lawl

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