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  1. #50 – SL is toxic? It’s almost like SL mirrors RL, guess they need to get out of SL more often to realize the world is sadly toxic and only getting worse. At least some Sim owners and club owners step up, I was a black avi at the naked sim and someone IMed me calling me ape and telling me I should go back to the zoo. I told the sim owner and they banned them.

  2. lol ya all need to spend time irl instead of complaining about sl. goes to show how ya all are hermits and care too much about digital pixels. please live your real lives as much as you can. it’s not good for your mental health to waste your energy fighting with someone you’ll never meet in person.

    to anyone who might reply to this with negative feedback, you literally prove my point lmao!!!! and any replies to this won’t change my mind ever. for anyone who’s might give me a thumbs down you also prove my point as well. ya all argue, slander, defame too much on here in the posts and in comments. at the end of the day sl is a game. the ones who actually get mentally damaged from it, please take a break and seek professional help. the same goes for anyone who gets angry on here. I’m glad I’m not a regular here. some of the complaints here are funny though. peace *mic drop*

  4. Is it ageplay or is it just 5’0″ -5-6″ adult women that are short so people are out here calling them kids because they’re a realistic height? Or is it because they look like twitter e-girls that look like they have onlyfans accounts,

    or are you finding actual child avatars, advertised as child/prepubescent teens, and why haven’t you reported them for being children on an adult sim getting some?

    If they’re a rebirth on an adult sim, a toodledoo, tweenster, something like that, shouldn’t you be reporting that if you’re seeing them getting it instead of being here making memes?

    • Is that height “realistic” because it matches rl norms, or because it matches the SL environment? Because women who are 5′-5’6″ in real life don’t have most furniture coming up to their shoulder level and they can generally see over a bar counter. What would be “realistic” is looking like you fit into your environment as an adult, not a stupidly slavish devotion to slider numbers that don’t actually mean anything. SL has never been built on rl scale, and despite shrinking some since the old days it probably never will be because of how the camera works outside of mouselook, therefore using rl height standards in SL is actually not realistic at all.

  6. Dream bullies’ people who supported his store and talks about people on Instagram. dream is a colorist loser! he talks mess about darker skin black women and lighter skin black women. He compares black women to animals.

    Dream also has alt accounts pretending to be other creators or his rl family & friends came on the game working in his circle making him MORE money. Dream is from Atlanta Georgia. He stays with a family member; I think his grandma if I can remember. Dream does not work a job, he collects SSI checks because he is mentally ill and had multiple personality disorder and suffer from an identity crisis. Dream is a monster, I been watching Dream since I started sl a few years ago, DREAM is EVIL along with everybody who stands for him, not only does he have his greedy hands in everything ! Examples, PEACH, AND BBL BODY *COUGHS* I wish people will stop working with him, he is so full of himself sitting up here saying he is the “First Black Creator” Of second life which you know is not true at all. This is all I can tell you guys about Dream because it’s too much to tell you guys about dream, please report dream account please and thank you, he keeps making new accounts and hiding like a roach, he doesn’t deserve money for how bad he treats people. AKA btw i’m in Dreams family as a SPY and watching him very closely.

    ~ From the black woman dream has broken and destroyed. </3

    • Ma’am, with all due respect, find something better to do with your life than wasting it on someone you hate so much. You “spying” on him in his “family” ain’t doing shit to him, but it’s clearly hurting you.

      • Dream is pushing his mid-30s with no job, no home, and mental disorders. He lives off SL and that’s fucking sad. As they say, hurt people hurt people. Pray for him to get help! GN

    • If Dream has multiple personality disorder, how do we know this isn’t just one of Dream’s personalities attacking Dream?

    • Dream is weird claiming to have so much money even recorded a convo with his mom saying that he indeed is above all of us and is the first black sl male creator lmfao girl bye showing his tiny ass closet with (extremely fake) designer clothes lmfao okay if you have all that why are you on sl?? Go run your multi dollar irl business you claim to have LMFAOOO

  7. 19) Sounds like that one boring SL store I saw with a friend. Cheapest body until you realize 2 things. One is you need to buy something else or it won’t look like the picture. And two, it becomes the most expensive body made by a horrible furry creator.
    50) So true, bestie. Nothing is ever as it seems either. If it looks wholesome, you never know what is hidden behind curtains until you join it and realize so much happened behind the scene.

  8. #39 couldn’t agree more. Aren’t all Beusy hairs unrigged as well? Even the long ones that REALLY shouldn’t be? Complete shit house of a store lmao

  9. #37

    This is where I started to feel like SL is more and more of a continuous loop of DLC. I’ve finally broken myself out of the cycle of having to care too much about these deals. It’s been in what feels like, some 2 or 3 weekends now where I have not even looked into SeraphimSL for deals and anywhere else.

    I’ve noticed a lot of repeats and it helps when you’re not around shopaholic ‘friends’ who’s primary focus of subject is to talk about deals and getting shit they most likely are going to forget that they got until the next round.

    It’s just not fun to do in the long haul and it eats at your finances faster than you think. All the fuss for what, the millionth lipstick pack? a makeup with maybe a tint darker than the last one you can barely distinguish? maybe a garbage novelty item that somehow takes up more prims than it should by looking at it?

    Like, even renting a cheap skybox is better worthwhile than chasing ‘deals’.

      • Someone seriously needs a productive life if you’re going to go out of your way and stalk others.

        And yes I know you’ve gone extensively to dig up another name. Don’t even argue “well duh internet makes it available” no, I assume all and any stalking towards me is for personal vendetta so I automatically loathe you. Congrats, you piece of shit.

        Don’t even pretend to try and tell me that you won’t do shit as well as it is applicable to any other shitstain that bothers doing the shit you’ve done. Any asshole that dares try communicating to me on other platforms will automatically be blocked and issues may escalate just as automatically. Anyone who dares give those around me problems will be targeted and campaigned against.

        You’ve been warned.

    • you sound like a person that never shuts the fuckup even if people do not talk to you.the kind of person that post worthless blabber on discord and facebook that no one gives afuck about because all you do is complain, Jaegeralus.

      • You sound like someone who truly has never been punched in the mouth when they say the stupid shit you’ve said. Worthless waste of a human being you dare think yourself as. Who the hell censors themselves online, too? Were you raised by a family who kept you in a bubble? Did your daddy priest fondle you in your little tighty whities when you were young as a reward for not swearing? Faggot.

  10. 38 – Using “autistic” as a replacement slur for “ret@rded” has to be one of the strongest proofs ever that bigotry is what happens when ignorance meets low self-esteem. It’s the ableist equivalent of calling a Black person a sp!c when they aren’t Afro-Latino. But hey. If you like looking as if you need a remedial course in reality, do you, sugar cube.

    50 – If that’s all you see, that’s your problem for keeping that kind of company. Maybe you like it. No kink-shaming. Just saying.

    52 – Do you know what you can do? Wear body stockings, leotards, or other BOM pieces under the tiny costumes. Mix designers’ conventional pieces in appropriate colors. In short, try wearing something more original than what gets sold “off the rack” on MP. Also, stop shopping at the stores that cater to the “briefer is better” crowd. They exist. Really, they do.

  11. #35 He is a pos apparently heard he sleeps with his sister. lives with his son irl and is a slob in his 50’s

  12. #10. While I really hate the use of AI photos for any vendor, who the hell doesn’t demo first to see what it really looks like?

    • To some people’s credit, not everything on the marketplace of SL is available as a demo. It’s only from vendors who bother and know how to put some of their products up as demos.

      Most times it’s going to be about “wasting money and find out” kind of ways.

  13. #15 Still has the same practices as on his former avatar who owned the Sabotage brand(until HE and HIS brand got kicked from the grid for shady practices)

    • Event owners and other brands should speak out against him. #EndDreem

  14. Just a reminder to y’all:

    • The block button is a gift from the LL Gods.
    • For those with personal and sim matters: these people are living in your head, rent free. Just move on. Mentioning sims or people just gives them more traffic. Any publicity is good publicity.
    • The whole “I know what you did last summer” thing and lack of context just makes you look like you’re on SL a bit… too much?
    • The shotacon thing is fucking weird. Get help.

  15. # is someone Complaining about their choice of Pedophilia Content?!

    • IM talking about #4 btw. Who ever this is, prolly out here bashing furry sims, suggesting they want a choice of Pedo content when in fact No sim iv been to in the furry space well ever allow that shit.

      • It’s 4chan, they’ve been submitting their trollish secrets here for a few months now

      • They’ve always been submitting secrets or trolling the comments section for years now

      • “No sim iv been to in the furry space well ever allow that shit.”

        Are you sure of what you’re saying, or do you just decide to turn a blind eye to it like everyone else?

        I could easily name a few. Besides, they don’t even hide it. One of the sims I have in mind, which has the most traffic, is at the top of the first page when we search for the term furry.
        One of the sim’s moderators had complained on twitter that he’d had problems on certain hangouts or clubs because of the size of his avatar, when in fact it was because of his youthful appearance.

        A few days ago, they took a Halloween photo in which they don’t hide their strange fetishes at all, and where some avatars look very, even too young.

        And now you’ll probably say I’m making it up, like many others before you, but I find it suspicious when they organize a Halloween game of Fright, where ONLY the youngest avatars were fucked non-stop, almost as if loosing was better than winning (you had to hide to win) 🙂

  16. #4- Maybe I’m missing something, can someone explain this to me? Cause it looks to me like the OP is complaining there’s not enough child porn of boys on SL.

  17. #4
    Furry sims are the worst for this. And I’m still baffled how so many people do close theirs eyes on this.
    For a very long time, I too, closed my eyes, specially when it comes down to some “friends”, but now is pretty obvious that something is very wrong and I cannot not say anything about it. Cuz that’s just gross.

    There is a furry sim, that is ruled by people having very young looking avatars. Almost all the mutuals and resident there, do have very young avatars and some weird fetishes. From diapers, to age-play, to piss, to scat.. And while at first, I can give it the benefit of you the doubt, there is so many things that are so wrong and obvious.

    It is funny to me, cuz it’s been several times that some people on that sim complained about being rejected on other furry sims, because of non only the height of theirs avi, but also because of the way they do look. Even going as far, as ranting on twitter about it, but how the fuck can you be doubtfull when looking at the stuff they’ve liked on twitter is full of shotacon stuff?

    For example, I do remember seeing one of the admins of the sim, being fucked in a church altar, by his boyfriend. The only things is, they do have a sort of very small cat avatar, and the animations were so clunky that it looked ridiculous and made me laugh out loud.
    It so obvious that they are into age-play and weird shit, cuz they all go with the name “Littlepaws”, using reborn body with exagerated curvy body.

    And trust me, there is nothing wrong with being cute/adorable and all that jazz. But there is way to not look like 12 years old. And also.. doing weird shit with the dong out.

    No wonder why I was always pushed aside, I wasn’t “fuckable” material. And those people do have pretty good following on twitter.

    I am glad that, there is more and more people who do speak on that, cuz if people do get mad at normies avatar looking young, they should be mad even more when seeing this kind of shit that is going on, on some furry sims.

    • Honestly it’s weird, because EVERY anime-esque sim i’ve been too. NOTHING BUT, this sort of shit. I see maybe one or two loli’s/shota’s on a furry sim and they’re promptly changing because they were asked to change.

      Anime sim? It’s almost encouraged and I hate it.

  19. #9 No one said anybody was trying to make their AI look like them or their avis. It’s just a trend that everyone is in right now. If it’s bothering you that bad maybe you need to log off fb and go outside and touch some grass. Imagine telling people what to do on their own fb page lol

    • I think its because Knives bought skins, so Bwee points out that Knives illegaly shares the skins that shouldnt be shared. I hope Bwee also reported them to LL.

    • From what i’ve understood.. they’ve been already exposed several times about copying/stealing ideas from other creators, as long as doing copybot. And now they’re sharing a skin, that was custom made.

      • Oh wow wtf I thought they were all very orginal 🙁 I didn’t know they were doing all that

      • Didn’t farozz (apologizes for the misspell) create the skin for knives?are they still friends? Bc it seems knives is dropping everyone

    • I find it hilarious people can just blow off whatever bs they feel like on here with zero proof…..

  22. Janire coba? Se estaba tardando mucho en hablar de toda la caquita y hate que tiro, no me creo nada de esta psico.

  23. 31- Most people who join their Flicker group have free accounts. They are going to lose about 90% of their members. They’re idiots.

    50- that’s pretty much all metaverses and online social media. There are going to be toxic ass people. complaining about it isn’t going to change second life. It’s been that way for a while now.
    It’s the same on Vchat as it would be Imvu and anywhere else. Best to MUTE them and surround yourself with some wholesome people.

    • #31 – People who promote/sell anything on Flickr need to subscribe to PRO or get their accounted deleted by Flickr. It’s the policy. The group is just enforcing Flickr’s policy, I don’t see the problem. When you get your account deleted for skirting the rules, don’t cry about it. I’ve seen many designers try to say that Flickr is “EVIL” because they won’t pay $40 year to run their SL business. If your SL business can’t afford that cost, then you don’t have a business, it’s a hobby, then you don’t need to be on Flickr, so why do you care?

  24. JANIRE COBA while you continue lying, slandering, harassing other designers or event owners because you are simply bored I WILL MAKE SO MANY PUBLICATIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU DO THAT BELIEVE ME, IT WILL HURT YOU, you are ridiculous, a psychopath hater without restraints, you don’t care about defaming with a truth or with a lie, right? All the events that support SHIT LIKE YOU should be embarrassed to have a person like you at their event, AND THAT’S FOR YOU SILVIA DIVAIO, you’re another toxic piece of shit.
    Hugs ♥

    • You called yourself “Nuve” so people think you’re the skin creator? You’re delusional lmao
      Pupito is a psycho and that’s why Lakua left him 5 years ago and i’ll never stop saying it.
      And those tattoos from Archivefaction were nazi.
      And I am proud of myself, so BRING IT ON ♥

      • Don’t you feel disgusted? Doing so much harm for free is taking its toll on you, aren’t you ashamed to defame a creator for weeks and then apologize because it was a lie? Aren’t you ashamed to try to cancel Equal10 for the same lie you told about IONIC? You are pathetic and increasingly hated, keep it up my friend ♥

      • From here I call on the IMAGINARY HACKER who stole her FB account, return it to her because the poor thing is suffering hahaha….
        Are you going to tell some psycho truth? ♥

      • This psychopath is the same one who insulted Scandalize hahahahaha….. Do you think you do it better? WAKE UP TRASH, you are a sack of shit that spews hate, a shame.

      • its not really doing much for your argument to shame them for insulting a “creator” that’s been on here countless times for being boring, repetitive, copying other stores that are also alleged to be the same people, and is just another assembly line of full perm boredom. everyone insults them lol. also, you seem to maybe have a touch of anger issues and you might want to just step back so you can re-evaluate why you’re letting someone on the internet effect your life and emotions so much that you’re yelling and cussing at them via text. just a thought 🙂

      • Honestly dear, you have no fucking idea, do you work in second life? Well, when a bag of shit comes and slanders you out of boredom and you are left without income, tell me, we have very thin skin with some and too thick with others, this thing has been doing this for years, it’s time to take out the trash.
        And now you’re going to tell me that you’re a creator, right? Well, tell us what your store is so that everyone knows that you also support the haters ♥

      • lol I’m not anyone special tbh. just a decade-long user of SL with a pair of eyes and a relatively sturdy grasp of logic and reason. I don’t make assumptions, I just read the room. one person can’t bring down a creator unless there is damning evidence to support it. and even then, there will always be people who turn a blind eye. how many people still enjoy listening to r kelly or all the confirmable convicted felons who’ve become multi-platinum rappers selling out stadium shows after charges of assault, battery, murder, robbery, gang activities… you name it. people will do what they want to with their money. is it fair to pick and choose who gets a pass and who doesnt? not at all. but sadly that is the nature of society in its current state. I hope it will be different 100 years from now but sadly that’s not likely.

      • broc lee
        I thought it was confirmed years ago that Pupito and Lukua are the same person.

      • Calling a person a “psychopath” is something very serious, I don’t really know what is happening. I have read a little and it seems to me that they are talking about someone and slandering. You have to have an empty and dry soul to be cruel to someone in that way or some kind of obsession. It would be good for you to reflect Janire, today the world is too hurt to act that way, but apparently you love drama, not only for this situation, but for several that I have learned about these days according to your past. peace.

        And I see that all the comments they make to you resemble that Pupito guy, I (at least) am not pupito, I am a simple SL user.

  25. #43 Bandor has lost his mind! Someone tell him that he needs to get someone else to look at his texture choices and to lower his prices. But paying $100 USD for a 10% discount club? Come on now.. that’s ridiculous.

    • Lol seriously, the man is delusional; he guilts people too by talking about how the store pays for the resort and blah blah blah. But does buying that lifetime membership for all releases free include some kind of board position in the ownership of the resort? It should. He wants other people to pay for his kingdom but only him to rule.

  26. #35
    FYI your friend was clingy and he could not handle it, did he go about it the wrong way absolutely however it happened and it’s in the past. Get over yourself

  27. #44 That makes me laugh something good. 🤣 I remember the last time I owned mainland with the husband and found a random couple using our bed and them threatening me that they knew the landowner and would have me banned off the plot if I didn’t leave. Gotta love the shenanigans of mainland.

  28. I am kinda wondering if toxic knows who venom is seeing behind her back

    • I’ve been wondering who this toxic person because when I search her name on SL it’s not showing nothing

    • Spill the tea if you’re in the know… Or are you just trying to cause more unnecessary drama for them?

      • I don’t know either of them personally but judging by your comments now and in previous weeks you’re either a huge fan, jealous or just enjoy stirring up shit for your own sad little entertainment moment otherwise you would drop the name seeing as it’s all anonymous 🙂

      • coming from somebody who knows everyone’s in and outs and lives in secrets? Look in the mirror

      • Lol what?!……

        Let me get this right darlin…
        Who came on here making accusations that Venom was cheating? Hmm that would be you, just like every other week you’re up in someone’s business on here yet you have the nerve to say I live on here! xD xD

        You seem lonely hon I feel sorry for you D:

  29. Are comments manually approved? IDK why mine didn’t show up, its been over an hour…

  30. SL is toxic eh… I seem to be doing just fine and happy with my love… not sure where you morons are hanging out.. its all up to you, idiots… 🙂

    • #50. Check out Bonifacio or any Safe Hub if you want to be greeted with casual racism

    • A lot of people (especially ones who submit to VS) seem to seek out stupid toxic drama, not sure why. A lot of them seem to also ensure whatever stupid toxic drama is happening in SL also leaks out onto other platforms, for some reason.

    • What was the point and purpose of you essentially calling everyone (for your lack of specificity) “morons” and “idiots”? if you’re so happy and satisfied, then why are you finding it necessary to name-call to people you don’t know and has nothing to do with you? Why not provide some insight as to how you found yourself so happily in love on SL? Any time I hear/see someone complaining, I am all too happy to let them know my experience and how I came to be so happy with the folks I’ve met. Maybe it’s people like you who contribute to the toxicity that OP has been experiencing.

    • I’ll always find it hilarious that people say stupid shit like this. People who’re truly happy and content, don’t feel the need to swipe so vaguely at others. They know when and how to shut up and just enjoy life in general, online or offline.

      Sounds to me you’ve still got some insecurity issues if you truly felt that you had to come here and say what you’ve said. Still got growing up to do for you, chump.

  31. #46 What’s your point? Whining about a rejection? Did ever cross your mind that maybe the problem is you? Usually people that feel the need to downgrade others to get noticed trully disbelieve in themselves… Be a grown up and suck it up, after all rejection is part of life!

  32. #10 Yall would seriously rather skin creators continue to steal real peoples faces than generate it with AI?? Cuz you know damn well they aren’t drawing faces from scratch. aint no way them rhianna clones were drawn. BYE!

    Those AI skins coming out right now are flawless and gorgeous. if you think the skin creators care, watch them laugh all the way to the bank.

    (The only thing I can understand being upset about is if the AD only is generated and the end product looks nothing like it… other than that, this method of AI is approved by me)

    • The skin isn’t being made using AI you dingus, they just doctor their ad using AI to make it look better.

      Skin/hair brands have been doing it for years on SL, it’s annoying. There’s plenty of easy to use apps that take a shitty looking 3D avatar face and make it look much more human, they’re using them.

  33. 21. Wow I wonder who keeps posting about this toxic boo. 🤔 I can’t seem to even search up that name when I am on Second Life

  34. #38 Using autistic as an intentional slur says a whole lot more about you than the person you are too spineless to name in your clear attempt at rationalizing what was probably your own shitty and thoughtless behavior.

  35. 18- if i remember correctly this shop is ran by who used to own Furry Kinks. she would treat her male employees like bootycalls and if they didnt sleep with her they’d be banned and slandered in the club

    • There was more to it than just that. Racism (literally throwing R#tard, N bombs, ect), there was two faced lying allowing age play yet banning others, once they got into the creator side of SL they made people sign a fake contract that made them own everything provided including the character on the body pillows (stealing character rights), their discord required a legit ID to be accepted (at the time it was illegal to request such info), oh and they were also caught stealing furzonas club design.

      If you wanted to try and fight back, they’d throw bullshit lawsuits. it was a huge mess. They never learned, they just changed “FK” from a club, to a creator store full time

      Same shitty foxfire.”alpha”

  37. #50: I’ve been visiting SL on and off since 2008. Although I have met toxic people in this game, I never thought of this game as toxic. Mainly because I discovered quite quickly in SL how to block and derender people.

    I wish more people would try ‘Block’ with the toxic people they meet in this game (derender means I won’t even see their blocked grey shadow on a sim). Toxic people can only have power over us if we let them. (BTW same in Real Life too!)

    • While I agree with this, the problem is you block them they still come at you, here, fb, discord, they go to your friends, spouses and they try to turn people against you instead of just moving on or they send whole massive families after you.

      • This is why I’m so against mixing Second life with real life. Shit like that happens. But I got cursed out for saying that. This is why I say if you own a store in Second Life. Have at least two accounts. One for your SL and the other for your personal life and don’t mix the two.

      • Don’t mix SL with anything else… just treat platforms as independent of each other, there’s nothing to be gained from doing so unless you’re running a business or something.

        There should be no link between your accounts on various platforms.

    • I wish “BLOCK” had a few added features (like tags) to let others know why the jerk was blocked.

      • That’s a fucking terrible idea- that means anyone could put any kind of tag on you regardless of what you’ve actually done- or not. If you need a tag to remember why you blocked someone, use their notes tab.

  40. #49 Someone must be real butthurt to be draggin this dude for 2 weeks in a row now, its hilarious and on point but at the same time get over it he really isn’t worth it

    • As some thats not fan of the dude I kind of agree. I said my peace and moved on. Just block him. I don’t like his art as well but damn. Also all/most furrys fuck round anyway.

    • He must have fucked somebodies bitch. Now they need to talk behind his back instead of actually confronting him to his face. I showed Toka this just now. he had a good fucking laugh at it!

      • last I heard this dude is rolling with pedos so I don’t think he has much to laugh about

      • Hate someone? Just associate them with Pedos without proof. that will get people mad at them.

      • Multiple people have shown screenshots of him talking to pedos and even trying to convince someone to do ageplay. That was all the proof I needed and enough proof for the managers at a club he worked at to fire him. But of course, he’s not gonna be open about being an age player because he knows it’ll catch him drama so seeing posts calling him out is long overdue.

      • Caught in a lie.

        he guy has never worked at any clubs other then FK and even then. the club disappeared for money reason Everyone lost that job! Look I always thought the guy was a sleeze. Always fucking around. His art is shit too. told him to quit while he’s ahead. But he was never fired. But to make up shit about him being a pedo? Guess when you reaaaally hate someone and dont have actual proof. Just call them a pedo right? make sure it sticks.

      • Burden of proof lies on you, so please post them here or simply shut up and quit lyin’.

  41. #18: Can we get some receipts on their stolen products, or why they are horrible?

  42. #39 Beusy… the ads look good but you go to try it and see crazy dark-ages prim stuff. No excuse for that, certainly not for the price they’re asking given the quality of the product. Either get with the times or sell it at a very steep discount vs modern products. Wasabi does most of these sorts of styles better anyway and are reasonably priced.

    Hair market is way too competitive to not keep up to date as a creator.

    • Tried one of the latest releases. I totally agreed. It looked amazing on the add … then I added it … never ever detached an item that fast and deleted… wouldn’t even pay 60L on weekend Sale for it

    • Thanks for the input. I’ll keep that in mind as I try to improve for future releases.

    • I wanted their hair that was on sale a few weeks ago, tried it on, and nah, my complexity shot up into the atmosphere. Not even for 60L brah, not even lol.

  43. #37 – SL regular prices got so out of control that so many sales are necessary to bring prices down to realistic levels for digital goods. I know there’s a lot, it’s because they sell fuck all at regular pricing.

    #52 – You don’t. Halloween events are full of people dressed non-sluttily and sometimes in very creative costumes, you just don’t have the imagination if you think you need to be a slutty witch like every other slutty witch.

  46. 53 – How is it that I never had the chance to watch? It would be delightful to witness Kav and Vitt sharing a moment of joviality.

  47. #17 Is that the reason why Omega Psi Phi got taken out of Woodcrest and replaced with that corny stoner group MEH? 🤔

      • Jesus fucking Christ. Why do you fucking Woodcrest morons still go on about Jack? She hasn’t been in Woodcrest for over 2 year? Just fucking move on and I hope all you assholes have the year you deserve.

      • Jack was a she? I have no clue who they are on about lol I thought it was some male leader before Neba.

      • Jack is very well known for destroying OPP.
        Her and dipshit Max sit on their asses all day trying to fuck everyone in their inner circle. Creating drama for anyone who didn’t think they were royalty. Saying OPP wasn’t about sex what you mean is it wasn’t getting fucked by other houses. Believe me they all fucked each other.
        They cause drama and play victim, try to bully people like they did to Bliss but because Bliss stood up for herself they attack Bliss until this day.
        Jack you cry here now under the name How bout No? But how about a no to you? Why do you use multiple accounts on Virtual Secrets and always try to throw Bliss under the bus? How about get a real job, lose some weight and stop being a whore? Sounds like a better plan.

    • Yeah, OPP wasn’t about sex, they actually RPed and did things oriented around their house description, talking about games and nerdy things like star wars, doctor who, dungeons and dragons, etc. I was part of it and was about to do my final task, the full sim event. Was going to be game themed, then out of nowhere bliss shut us down claiming we weren’t active enough or getting enough new members.

      Bliss is such a butt hurt dictator, had a friend show me the exchange. My friend was OPP as well, but didn’t’ like any of the other houses. Bliss IMed them and my friend RPed that they were crying, looking at the campus and saying good-bye. Bliss got mad saying they were mocking Bliss and kicked and banned them. Then later IMed saying it was a misunderstanding and they could come back. lol

      • Who? Was he a leader before Neba? While I was in OPP we went through three different leaders, but they were all women. Neba interviewed me, the one that replaced her only put her friends in head house roles which caused issues and she was forced to leave. Her replacement was Amora.

  49. .7 There’s a saying, “As a dog returns to its own vomit, so a fool returns to his own folly.”

    Sadly, GoT and ASOIAF RP in general has a tendency to go this route.

    • The same people who have been stanning RoC and attacking anyone who made another sim for all this time finally themselves defected and took the lore and characters with them and this is the best tea VS has on it?

      • I mean, in fairness, there hasn’t been any good GoT tea on VS in a while now.

      • I wouldn’t say it is tea. It’s not news that Lee and Antaria ran ROC into the shitter with their false promises, lies and metagaming. They broke their own rules. The sim was clinging on by the few good admins who gave a crap.

        Now the community gave them the finger and they’re all shocked and sad about it.

      • The tea is that none of this particular group believed or cared how much the admins lied or meta-cucked other players until it finally affected them.

    • ROC admins out here wildin in memes fr 🤡 OGs just now clocking it…bout time. Maybe next time listen instead of chilling in toxicity central 🙄

      Keep it 100. ATB didnt snatch the lore. They straight up dumped Lee’s shizo lore and grabbed the RP from last year so chars can transition without all that BS. Yall quick to throw shade at players, but everyone is straight vibing at ATB while ROC was a whole snoozefest for months. Could it be cause those ROC admins were slacking? And on the rare times they weren’t, they just pulling sus moves to boost their own chars? hmm🤔🐸☕️

      How ROC still a thing tho? Doing all kinds of shady, trying to squeeze their last 2 people with that 2k linden rental scam. Slipping into old players IM with that yo we got dragons come thru nonsense? Bruh. Where you been when I was grinding every day in RP getting sidelined by you and GODMODDED by your admin? But now yall ghost town and your acting all saintly? Then theres rhaenor… only buzz in ROC is sis stunting with a dragon she aint even earned. Had a look at the place yday, 1 lonely soul alert on a freakin saturday… Unicorn. Got me dead 🤣

      On the real just shut it down. Game over. Bounce and do you. olayers been done with your sly ways voting with their feet every chance they get.

    • I think it’s hilarious. We’ve all seen people leave sims and start their own out of spite over and over again, but I almost want to respect the sheer commitment to “FU RoC” in that they literally took the lore and transposed it to some random time period that makes no sense so the very group of players who were constantly catered to at RoC could maintain their characters. So rarely does laziness, spite, and pettiness come together for such a triumvirate of drama. If only they had taken their build and used that too, it would have been *chef’s kiss* (But wait. If people get annoyed enough, maybe they’ll abandon their build and drop the RoC “Sunspire” down, if they haven’t already.)

      And then, for all their complaining about being in Summerhall, they’re still in camps! With no sim completion date on the horizon, as they cram their oh so dramatic starvation narrative down players’ throats. Because all the people who come to GoT to play pretty lady/princess/knight want to RP about rationing and being stuck in a desert wasteland.

      Thank you, ATB, for providing this experience. You couldn’t (and didn’t) write it any better.

      • Oh wow, would you look at that? It’s Lee, apparently needing some validation.

        They haven’t stolen your precious lore.

        The build CATREICH made, that you didn’t pay a dime for. And if your sorry excuse for a sim wasn’t on the verge of collapse, guess what? Catreich’s build would still be standing. But of course, it’s much easier to blame her for wanting her own intellectual property back from a bunch of freeloaders who couldn’t care less, right?

        Let’s not forget the riveting tale of the “starvation narrative” that nobody even forced upon anyone. Players voluntarily decided to ration their supplies, because that’s the sensible thing to do. But hey, where’s that evidence from the Story Team proving any scarcity? Oh wait, it doesn’t exist. Surprise, surprise.

        So, tell me, is there absolutely anything that ATB could have done to satisfy you? Or are you so brainwashed that you genuinely believe you’re the only ones entitled to run a GOT sim?

        By the way, have you heard from ROC lately? No, of course not. Thanks to your astounding rewriting skills, us mere mortals have been deprived of the lore for over a month now. Don’t even bother checking your chat, it’s as barren as a desert. Roleplay? Oh, that’s a luxury that only occurs when the two remaining players decide to bother. But hey, at least you can sell the idea of a fair race for the crown. Oh wait, surprise again! You conveniently asked your buddy, Blackfish, to swoop in and snatch the throne. And all those poor idiots out there still think they have a shot. How utterly predictable. Wow, you’re truly living the dream, huh? Making bank off those totally legit and definitely not scammy 2000 LINDEN rentals is just so impressive. I mean, who wouldn’t jump at the chance to fork over a ridiculous amount of cash for a rental on a bustling sim like yours? Your dump is just the epitome of luxury and excitement. I seriously doubt that anyone in their right mind would be dumb enough to fall for your little scheme, let alone dish out their hard-earned cash for it.

        Keep up the amazing work! It’s just so pathetic that there are still people naive enough to believe in you.

      • You think I’m Lee? That’s cute.

        • The build that Catriech volunteered to build. And then didn’t. It’s common knowledge that she disappeared for a good while, which, hey, when you aren’t paying someone, you have little ground to complain. But let’s be real that when people complain about being at the whim of a builder who isn’t present, it’s fair game to say, “She isn’t around and we can’t get a hold of her.”

        And where is the build end date? The sim was started so hastily because people got big mad when they didn’t get their way at RoC, there wasn’t even a build started DESPITE claims otherwise. So you’ve got people in more camps, when again, the biggest complaint from the last sim was at the time of the exodus, “We’re in Summerhall so long, where is the build?!”

        • Oh, I’m sorry, did dead ravens, bandit attacks, making people who leave the camp roll for their safety – are these not enforcing a narrative on your players where people believe they have to now start talking about rationing and living in a constant state of fear as the body count keeps up? Except when people complain, and you conveniently have Aegon put out a “No! The *admins* say we’re not rationing at all!” You want to talk about Lee’s schizo lore, but your sim wants to be edgy, but doesn’t want to chase out people who don’t want to RP scarcity. Exactly what did you think would happen if you tell your players they’re trapped in one location due to some mysterious enemy that happens to just have total control over the surrounding region? Aren’t you all about ICA = ICC – or does that not apply to the situations artificially created to distract the players because again, the build isn’t even close to being done?

        “Concerned, sometimes frightened mutterings from guardsmen who had seen the siege of Banefort spread across the encampments quickly. Saying that they recognize the shaved head and black, bushy beard of the prisoner as belonging to a bloodthirsty enemy Commander who terrorized the battlefield, not to mention much of the coast before the sacking Banefort: Varon Greyjoy. The slayer of William Baratheon and Zachary Yronwood. Many ponder why the King even allows him to live, after the countless rapings, cruel torments, and murders he and his men have a reputation for. ” (Hint: Because we’re desperate to keep certain players so we want to give them the coolest roles possible because they’re men, they can string sentences together, and one of our admins wants to write posts at them that takes thirty minutes to write. This player, in fact, found out that being Arch-maester or whatever wasn’t as fun as he thought it was going to be.)

        • Where are Zachery Yronwood and Willem Baratheon in the books? Did you create those characters? Did those players consent to being a part of your sim lore? Is Aurion Targaryen an original creation of yours? Did this Banefort War happen on your sim? At what point in the GoT timeline did Yronwoond supplant Martell? Where is New Chroyane in the A World of Ice and Fire? At least be honest with yourselves about being the most blatant copy/paste job in recent memory. ATB can’t even be bothered to file off the serial numbers of the storylines and RP they took from RoC. You even kept Elyas Martell, so you could further trash Lee’s character because you’re so upset he didn’t do things your way, give RoC to Maven, whatever it was that finally made key persons decide they could do better. The core team couldn’t even be bothered to rename your characters, so lifted their lore wholesale and plonked it right behind Jaehaerys I so you could have some shield of “It’s not RoC!” while doing a slapdash job of piecing the two together.

        TLDR: The admins know exactly what they did, and who they are. ATB is another sim made out of spite at another sim, and couldn’t be bothered to come up with their own ‘original’ story lines, instead piggybacking off the sim that pissed them off because they’re creatively bankrupt. Because some of those very same admins are the reason people complained about RoC, who are in charge at ATB. And when ATB implodes and closes (Aegon will get bored or tired of playing King, Catriech will turn her attention to her business, rather than the howling of ungrateful players, and Maven will go on another business trip), all those players are going to go back to RoC if it’s still around, or the next GoT sim someone decides to build. All sims die.

        Meanwhile, I’m going to enjoy the show.

      • ATB is doing well. 
        The players are RPing, there’s plenty of things going on, and they’re enjoying admins who actually spend time working on their sim, something none of us ever had at ROC. 
        And you’re over here complaining and calling those players out, the same players who spent MONTHS at ROC waiting patiently for ANYTHING to happen, and for the admins to FINALLY take some ownership of the issues on their sim and do ANYTHING to contribute the player base, because they didn’t fall for the blatant gaslighting and stay another few months?
        Enjoy ROC.

      • When everything you write is absolute bollocks but you like playing the victim so much you start believing it.

  50. 50.You are very right about it all but the thing with SL is find your group of people and stick to them. Don’t let people in and certainly don’t let them affect you it is really not a game for mentally unstable people and they are so many on SL and obviously on SLSecret lol If you do let them get to you, then you feel like you do!

  52. 54.Reading is hard for this jealous person. The SIM is post apocalyptic themed, read that again, SIM.. the SIM itself is themed. Not the event specifically. They have spaces for satellite stores, which is why SIM THEME is relevant. The items are from brands the event owner likes and wants. If you look at her own personal store or pictures, she likes cute kawaii stuff along with goth/alternative stuff, which the event encompasses. Talk to the event owner or manager and see if your store can apply to be there too instead on whinging on here.

    • I was just about to post this exact thing. Warehouse is one of the most consistent events where I can find something I want or need to buy, every month. Is it always the best? No. But it’s rare for me to have a month where I don’t buy something there.

      The event has never been post-apocalyptic-themed, as far as I am aware. It’s just the sim itself that has that theme, because there are other stores there.

  53. #54 right on. I loved this event, untill it turned to crap like the rest of them. Used to buy at least 5 items but now i am in and out and buy nothing.

    • Turned crap? You mean expanded their inside space to include more designers whilst keeping most of the original designers (some on rotation to allow room for other designers)? Just throwing a guess out there that you’re the OP of this post.

      This event has been consistently varied in items and creators from the get go, there is always a wide variety of styles for most people. Not everything will be suited to you, nor should it be. You want just alternative stuff? Darkstyle Fair, Fetish Fair, Engine Room, Midnight Order, Black Style Fair, FaMESHedX. You want just kawaii? Kawaii Secrets, Kawaii Project, Ota-Con, Hentai Fair. More mainstream? Equal10, Kustom9, Collabor88, The Fifty, FaMESHed, Access. Larger percentage of smaller designers? Cosmopolitan.. Want events that feature mainly Scamdalized and her brands? Kinky, Dollholic. Suited mostly to guys? Alpha, Mancave, TMD. I could probably break down most events for you outside of furries and kids stuff just because that’s not my scene.

  54. #12
    Pretty sure thats the ex posting lies about her. Shes one of the sweetest humans out there. Dude, we all know it was you who ruined her, and her family. No need to lie on here for attention.

    • or… she posted it herself to try to get even more people to feel sorry for her and send her shit

      • Totally not who she is, kind of stupid to even make that kind of assumption.

      • Here is the type she is…

        Autistic my ass. She has told people she was never diagnosed by a doctor. Told by a teacher in school. A teacher is not a doctor and has no clue.

        Now she plays that card so people have sympathy and buy her everything.

        Claims she uploads her own linden. Wrong. She asked an ex dad for 10k. Her most recent ex gave her 4.k and another ex ask dad gave her a few hundred L. All to get into the same event. Shes gotten tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people to give her linden

        Multiple people have said that once they stop paying her way and buying her everything that she moves on to the next person and is done with them.
        Going as far as to play the victim that they did something to her.

        She will try to get family to cut people out of their lives just because she is “Hurt” by someone or doesn’t like them.

        Claims her ex broke up her family. Not true. She stopped talking to her family and wouldn’t defend them when the ex was posting stuff that SHE told him. All of which was a lie.

        Has done of all of this in at least the last 2 families she was involved in.

        SHE WILL USE YOU FOR LINDEN AND DUMP YOU WHEN SHE HAS BLED YOU DRY OR YOU REFUSE TO BUY HER EVERYTHING.Plays the victim and says people use her and abuse her. It is the other way around Dear.

        Why do you think she is looking for a new family? To pay her way in both sl and Fortnite!GOOD LUCK TO WHOEVER TAKES HER IN. YOU WILL REGRET IT IN TIME!

        Nothing more than a little con artist like many others in sl.

      • I like how you say she is none of these things, yet there has been times when she has taken money from multiple sources to fund one minut cost of an event. She also claims to hate accepting things from people, but if that is so, why post her wishlist in her profile? She is conniving and manipulative and knows how to play her cards and spreads lies about people she claims to “care for”.

      • Shee obsessed with this site and has been known to post multiple things in the past. Exactly who she is.

    • Nah bruh, I haven’t talked to her, about her, none of that. I don’t be on this weak ass website, this for people who can’t say it directly to a mfer. An as ANYONE knows, I have NO issue sayin ANYTHING to ANYONE, period. Don’t put this shit on me. I asked her ex mom, uncle, dad, fand a lot of her ex family, none of them know who did it either. I didn’t. That’s period.

    • She used to scam me in fortnite. And then tried again in sl. I know who she is in both games. She a scammer and a liar.

    • Same chick who messed around with her ex dad and her ex uncle. she hits on all her male family members. walks around half naked and breaks up familys. she also told her ex how her mom raises her kid while she sits and plays video games all day and loves living off the state

  55. 4: This post is diabolical. Is this a complaint? A call out? What is this?
    26: Now I’m gonna get a horse dong I can swing at people, because that’s hilarious. The internet, epically SL, is not a serious place. Get mad, stay mad I guess.

    • Exactly. It’s a funny mesh holdable. Even if it was for sexual stuff so what? Companies have been making horse dildos forever. It’s a novelty and people that aren’t glued to being online can understand that. It has never been that serious and the people upset about this all month genuinely need to get a grip. Tired of the furry purists.

      • BD proooobably isn’t the best frame of reference given the real-world issues with one of the owners. Maybe a former owner? Bro I don’t know all I do know is there are Real World allegations lol

        but ‘hung like a horse’ jokes go back to literally the bible so yeah.

      • There aren’t any they are talking out of their ass since they don’t even know who the owner actually is based off their comment. The owner is a good person and anyone who actually knew her would know that

      • There’s a mix of severe zoo accusations that hold merit (irl shit, not to be conflated with fictional bs. However I’lladmit I’mout of the loop on the progress of those court cases), a whirlwind of drama surrounding claims of art theft and some incredibly poor customer service history in regards to their trans clients.

        All in all there are less problematic adult toy stores out there as a better option imo.

    • fr it is like people forget how funny the meme of a huge dildo is and the rabbit thing she talked about her art in the past about why she does that art form. I like her stuff tbh, idk her personally but she does not seem like a animal abuser/fucker

  56. 26- Nah, she’s definitely a nasty bitch too; a horse dildo to smack people with is less gross than using them sexually, but the poor dead bunny thing is awful. You’re kinda stupid though for getting mad that no one posted her previously for something that most likely no one saw, because that’s not a “popular creator” at all. I vaguely remember seeing that store maybe in sales, and don’t they mostly do full perm templates? Do we even call those people creators? Anyway, you’re pointing out a relative unknown and totally blowing their popularity out of proportion in your butthurt.

    31- Sorry you’re too broke for Flickr Pro, but anyone who can actually read that blurry mess should notice that they’re stopping free accounts from advertising in their group, and that group is for advertising only. Pretty sure that’s Flickr’s policy, that you’re supposed to have Pro to include any kind of monetizing links in your posts; just because they haven’t caught you yet doesn’t make it ok and why should people who follow the rules support you breaking them?

    39- 100% agreed! The styles are cute, but every time I put one of those demos on, I couldn’t take it off again fast enough and I finally gave up bothering. That hair looks like straight trash inworld, and the vendor photos are so deceptive. That kind of hair was barely acceptable years ago before alpha mesh and it’s beyond obsolete now.

    • #26 bro do you even know her? Did you even look at who she is or her art? Or are you as dumb as your response? IDK her but that shit is so clearly not about animal abuse.

  57. 15 – Unfortunately you can’t stop a bunch of retards shopping this even bigger black retard –

    • you can’t even publicly speak up about them or else you risk getting doxxed on their story, them calling your family members and messaging them, blackmailing people who know you to get your nudes to expose, paying people to mass report your accounts to get banned, and “blacklisting” you from their family’s stores and events. yet somehow they are still in big events and people praise them

      • FACTS, all of a sudden people on Virtual Secrets are too sensitive to the word retard? Nah, that fat fuck had people spam dislike my comment.

        I know you read this, and I’ll be here.

    • Why do you care so much where others shop? Mind your own business!

      • I don’t care, people buy SHIT that isn’t good for them all the time. Fast food, drugs, and whatever that black retard hires someone to mesh for him. He’s so gifted.

    • exactly and i’m black and shop from white creators because i will be damn if my money goes to one big fat gay bitch pretending to be other creators on alts get the fuck outta here

  58. 8 – “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
    11 – what do you really expect from an assembly line Sims “creator” like Nitropanic?

  59. 5) I wish Overhigh would come out and expose the rotten person they “stole” money from.

  61. #13 You know, I don’t like, and I’ve never owned a Catwa head, but good on her for seeing which way the market is going, (towards standardization for a BETTER UV) and joining in with what, 11 other head brands to give people the most opportunity for a unique look as well as COMPATIBILITY across SL with their layers.
    How is that a bad/shitty thing? Seriously though. If you want to address some bullshit, why not bitch about Genus and their quad texture set up that says ‘fuck you all’ when it comes to compatibility or usability or longevity with any body product or option. Or even Akeruka who INSISTS and bullies Evox skin/makeup creators into putting an AK specific logo on their products to even be able to advertise in their discord/groups. No one even uses an AK UV because there isn’t one, lol. It’s EVOX. And it’s confusing for customers to think that it can’t be used on anything else but their product.
    That’s what this rando who has some sort of weird beef with EVOX should be talking about.

    Moving towards standardization and compatibility with a decent product UV that creators LIKE WORKING with should never be demonized. Get off it already.

    • I think it’s awesome that basically every other head brand anyone has actually heard of has gotten solidly behind EvoX since the Genus “update” disaster. Creators should stay focused on relevant products and not have to waste their time making shit 4 people max will ever use.

      • Genus released their quad set up only a couple of months ago. Catwa just released a full EVOX compatible product that was probably in the works well before that and a bunch of head makers have been getting permissions to use EVOX on their products since before Genus’ choices in how they implement their quad SLUV texture setup.

        The great thing about SL is that people can make whatever the heck they want to. Being able to create whatever I wanted, and have other people buy it, or walk around in it is more than half the reason why I joined SL over a decade ago and still enjoy logging in every day. I can make, whatever the hell I want to. Doesn’t matter if one person or a dozen or a thousand people use it.

        While it is sad that creators more often ‘follow the market’ than they do create stuff they love; it’s good that they recognize a positive push towards compatibility and ease of creativity and a standard of items for customers to use and creators to create with.
        LL didn’t give creators very many aux slots when they updated system layers, so everyone’s fighting over the extra few, and the rest of it is broken in some way or another (can’t use alpha channels/plain ass doesn’t work or something)

        So an effort has to be made by creators to work together somehow so that people can use stuff and have it all generally work. Making something that doesn’t allow all that stuff to function together, means it’s really not going to get a wide following. And if the rumor is true that some body makers are looking to use one of the aux slots to make a new body UV possible? Well, that just means there’s either going to have to be a whole lot more aux slots given to us by LL or Rigged mesh makers are going to have to work together.

    • I’m happy to hear Catwa is starting to use the evox uv. The truth is that I like Catwa heads more than Lel heads, their facial expression animations are so much better but everyone shoves Lel down my throat that I feel obligated to use a Lel head. Maybe I’ll be able to have head whose smile doesn’t fall into the uncanny valley soon.

  62. 39 – I have coveted Beusy’s designs for years but simply cannot accept the texturing. I wish they would team up with Stealthic or Truth or someone so they can improve the detail of their hair. It makes me sad every time I see a new style in the same old strings.

    • I’m a one woman show, I understand that the Hair market has absolutely beautiful hair textures that borderline real out there and I’m doing my best to get on par. It’s a work in progress. It’s good to know there’s a demand from my customer base to make some adjustments and I’ll happily work on doing that. It’s been a tough two years and I was on a hiatus for my mental health. So bear with me here. Hopefully down the line my work will be something you deem nice.

  63. 44 – yall….is that the tip of a dick? peeing?? I don’t think Abuela would approve.

  64. 50- you are right, SL is also the only online platform where women significantly outnumber the men. More food for thought for you 😏

    • Half the female avatars on SL are cishet men playing women to have hawt lesbian sex and fetishize women. There’s only a few cishet men, gay dudes, trans dudes, and middle aged cishet yaoi fangirls using male avatars.

      • What the fuck is a cishet man you sexist twat?

        You are way off with your estimation. There are significantly more women on SL than men. That is a known fact. I’m sorry if it correlates with SL also being the most toxic online platform 😂

      • I have a feeling this is some kinda SL version of that “she turned me down, so she must be gay” rationalization that dudes with no game tell themselves when they can’t get any. They keep getting shot down in SL, so they tell themselves “THEY’RE ALL GUYS IRL ANYWAY” so they don’t have to wipe away their tears with their cum sock.

      • That might have been true like a decade ago, but it’s definitely not anymore, especially outside of any crap freebie sex sims. There are definitely more women than men in SL. There are also way more cis women in male presenting avatars than you think, because I guess when you can’t get any attention against the odds you switch to the side where the odds are better. You can usually tell though, because the avis are way too meticulously put together for 90% of cis men and there’s usually something a little feminine about them.

  65. #41
    I’d like to remind everyone that VV publicly apologized to Ketsui https://gyazo.com/c3883229c0a3638ea19d66c2732d3af0 not once but twice on social media
    https://x.com/SLVaeVictis/status/1656895062935052290?s=20
    So why is she being accused of stealing ideas and designs still when Vae Victus keeps re-texturing, editing and re-selling the mesh she made with them while working with them? make it make sense.
    Unsure? Do a little digging and ask. The truth may surprise you.

    • Vae Victis’ entire store and ideas are completely unoriginal. Their characters, avatars, and items are all built on lies. They’re just wannabes who stole someone else’s thing and went with it. Mesmer enabled Grim and continues to do so. Unless she doesn’t actually know where he got is inspiration. They gatekeep their characters and designs, when NONE of them are even original. Grim literally built his store on “his ideas” that were literally someone else’s. Him and Mesmer are delusional if they think they’re gods. This is the internet. We’re all sitting behind computers. Nobody here is a god or a goddess.

      “but 3000 people love them.” 3000 people are in it for the group gifts. Get your shit straight @Angered Voidling Cryptid. Vae Victis is a damn joke.

      • Angered Voidling Cryptid is just a new “child” in Grim and Mes’s “family” named Wendigo Starchild-Hexem (wendigo.starchild). The other simp in the comments last week was their partner, :: C͎o͎f͎f͎e͎e :: (crypt.crisp). The simps are just as unorignal and a joke as Mes and Grim.

      • Ketsui took forever though at the live auction at dog and pony show. No one needs receipts to know that.
        She really dragged it all out to make people spend more, had bidders sitting there in silence for several minutes, instead of yelling sold within a reasonable time.

      • She gave every auction 5 mins on schedule and if anything took longer it’s because people were still bidding.
        Btw, you know auctions aren’t a sale, right? Like… They’re one of a kind items never to be sold again and I don’t think anyone is complaining about having equal time or raising more money.
        Is that the best thing you could find to complain about? Seriously?

      • Who are they copying then-? If you say that they are unoriginal post proof so we can support the “originals” and not a popular copy.

      • this, i second this: because people do not understand that proof must be presented, i allow others just explore and go and see on their own with their own eyes! i am with you on this!

      • You don’t second jack shit. You say you wete given evidence yet provide nothing. You’re a hypocrite at best.

      • thank what ever you want, you can think whatever, its up to you LOL

      • Maybe you should ask Grim yourself where he actually got his inspiration from. I doubt he would tell you the truth though. He didn’t come up with his avatars or his aesthetic himself. Don’t Grim and Mesmer’s characters look familiar to you? Doesn’t the Vae Victis store look familiar? Just with extra bullshit. He may have some original characters. But who’s to know really. He wanted his own versions of these specific characters. After all, he and Mesmer blatantly ripped off someone else’s entire thing and just went with it. But they’re so original, aren’t they? He has ripped off multiple people and doesn’t care who he steps on in doing so, apparent by this whole other designer situation. He apologized to everybody but the person he originally stole from, too. Grimoire why don’t you tell the class what really happened? Don’t be shy now. You’re a fraud. You have no right to gatekeep your oh so original designs and characters. Or lie about how creative and unique you actually are. Pathetic and sad. Go apologize to the right people and do it correctly. Mesmer needs to stop enabling this sad behavior. I did my own digging. Maybe you all should too instead of being simps for someone you know little to nothing about. Go have a look at the rest of the world and open your eyes. I saw it. Maybe you should get your face out of Vae Victis’ asshole and look too. It’s not subtle. It hasn’t been subtle for a while now. And maybe have a look at the like to dislike ratio here of these comments. Maybe you’ll consider going to the doctor to have surgery on your head to remove it from Grim’s butthole so you can see properly. The human centipede thing you have going on here, isn’t a great look. You’re just eating each other’s shit at this point.

      • I don’t have a horse in this race but your text reads like a cringe anime villain diatribe.

      • Man, nothing is truly original. Everything is inspired from something else. And nobody is entitled to their personal shit xD

        Based on these complaints, it just sounds like personal beef

      • his look and sim are rip offs of eldrich gods….if you look them up…..but if it is ripped off from someone in sl, by all means, give us the receipts!

    • I do not believe you understand what the truth of the situation is, so i would suggest you quietly sit down and look through ketsui’s behavior normally on her social media and discord servers.
      A lot of people know her as a toxic creator, a liar at that.

      Look at her sim, its dead. ALOT of roleplayers do not want to RP at her sim due to her previous actions towards players and creators in general, and how she has treated people behind their back.

      I say this as i hold information, but i will not air anything out as its none of my business to do so, but i suggest to you to keep an eye out on her behaviors, her actions and her creations. i also suggest to not get too close to her or trust her with information that she will use against you.

      i do not say this out of being “petty” or drag her down, but i say this due to the fact this is known behavior from her, she just is very good at acting like the victim and removing evidence before its too late. and maybe you can reflect on both of them as well and see which is clearly in the right and who isn’t.

      • so i would suggest you quietly sit down and look through ketsui’s behavior normally on her social media and discord servers.

        I love being told to “quietly sit down” while misinformation is being spread. So, you can sit and tell a version of a story but others cannot? Shove it.
        Secondly, you claim A lot of people know her as a toxic creator, a liar at that. yet she is known for being professional, she helps and and organizes events and she will drop what she is doing even when swamped to help teach others meshing and rigging. I do trust her as a friend in fact as well because in my time of knowing her I have never been given a reason not to. I cannot always say the same for others, so don’t assume it’s because i’m gullible or naïve, I actually consider myself quite guarded because I know the toxic bullshittery some people in SL can dish out when they haven’t taken their meds.

        Oh and her sim? It’s open for roleplay but it’s not really advertised as much of a RP sim, but more of a community and under remodeling. I can’t speak for all these poor people who have been treated so poorly by monster Ketsui but you’re welcome to post receipts! If you even have any. You say you do while you’re anon, claiming to be some fortnite scammer which really adds to your credibility while being all WAH KeTSUI IS AwFUL.

        Yaknow.. Mute her, don’t go to Novus, don’t RP there, don’t go to her store, don’t support her or things she does. This is your right. But despite your best efforts you really sound like someone with a petty agenda.
        Also, what is this?

        she just is very good at acting like the victim and removing evidence before its too late. and maybe you can reflect on both of them as well and see which is clearly in the right and who isn’t.

        So… Again.. Proof? Cause I brought receipts that they said to stop accusing her. Why is she even being brought up anyway? So what if some weirdo is attacking Mes and has a hard-on for Grim. Has nothing to do with her. So what really is your issue now?

      • I hope you are doing mentally alright, love because i see you are given misinformation, i will not entertain you more but ill pray for your mental health from this woman and the shit you will see.

        so.. 19 dollar fortnite card, WHO WANTS IT?

      • Thanks for your concern but you’re not a therapist and attacking my mental state just because of my friend choices is pretty weak. Once again you have failed to give proof to any of your claims and from what i’ve read so far from your other posts is you are a roleplayer who likely clung deeply to your stories and the bygone days of EoC greatness, and your experience was tainted by some misunderstandings that Ketsui was blamed for.
        I’m going to drop the snark for a moment and just level with you, as a human being. I don’t care that you have hatred in your heart for Ketsui, that is your cross to bear and completely your issue. It’s just a line between disliking someone and defaming them or spreading misinformation to try and literally hurt their business and livlihood.
        I truly hope your mental health and life improves though. Maybe you’ll grow from this and find happiness.. Enjoy your fortnite, you sound like you need it.

      • The fact you still reply LMAO it just makes all of this a lot more funnier, I hope you soon find the truth! take care love! <3

      • Actually sweetheart I found the truth. You joined EoC in 2021 and never even met Ketsui! You have no personal experience with her which is fucking hilarious. Wanna know what else is a side-stitcher? Jynx broke off from Novus in 2017-2018 and made EoC, and apparently 2021 was when Rathus dropped a huge “you’re all being lied to and jynx is corrupt” bomb.
        I wasn’t there but I do remember reading something about some major drama that caused a bunch of people to leave that sim. All I know is when I tried to rp there once it was nearly impossible to get any decent rp even being IC and they were still hemorrhaging players cause Jynx was just focused on getting it in.

        So again.. RP drama and a bunch of hearsay, bunch of lies Jynx tells and others because she legit even to the end wanted to compete with and one-up Ketsui to the point she even had a party one hour before Kets’s and no one showed lol. Did you? Or were you busy playing fortnite?
        Either way I rest my case. Byebye!

      • You got this information within this website, good job! i wish i could give you a cute little star for your efforts!

  66. “SOMEONE” hacked my facebook account and I am the psychopath?
    I apologize to lakua in public after we talk and I am the psychopath?

    Seek therapy, you’re not right in the head.

    Also who cares about a fb account, it’s WAY more important to be a decent person.
    Hugs ♥

    • Janire Coba, it is more than obvious that you closed your FB to play the victim, hacking FB today I imagine is quite difficult. If you are 100% sure you should make the corresponding complaints on Facebook about this incident, sorry but I don’t believe anything, you are a compulsive liar and ungrateful for life.

      • So I lost access to my store page on facebook with more than 3k followers to play the victim? lmao you’re out of your mind

      • You are lying, 100% lie. Not buying it. Anyone with triple digits IQ wouldn’t buy it either.

      • I don’t even know this person but you sound dumb. Peoples fb accounts get hacked all the time. Saying it’s impossible makes you sound ridiculous

    • Lmaooooo saying someone hacked your FB account as a scapegoat is like ppl who say they “lagged” when they fuck up and cause a wipe in MMOs.

    • The psychopath with excuses, you were the one who defamed IONIC without evidence and then apologized hahahaha YOU ARE CRAZY AND YOU ARE AN IDIOT

    • It is not the first time that this psychopathic hater has done it, it is common for her to defame other stores and event owners because she is simply bored, I hope that just as the person who copies is punished, they punish you for being a shitty person who only says crap ♥

  67. As someone who RP’d at EoC for well over a year and and half

    At no point did it ever feel “Cliquey” Especially as a Furry.

    If you’ve RPed there you’ll probably be able to Identify who I am by me stating this

    • Lol, their last big sim plot basically all revolved around the admins’ characters and their royal family to the point that literally anyone that participated in the events just felt like set pieces while their toons did all the cool shit. It turned a lot of people off from participating in any actual storylines from then on. Their last events were… what? more royal family circlejerking? Woo. Honestly it’s a miracle it took so long for them to shut it down, the place has been dead for a year.

      • I may know who you are due to your nickname you’ve given yourself here!
        but i will say: you’ve had bad experience with the sim and its staff as well as players, maybe due to the fact you came in late where corruption started to happen and its okay, and i hope you are recovering mentally and you are doing better!
        I would suggest trying to walk away and if you’ve found somewhere better, i hope you thrive and be happy when you couldn’t be in EoC

      • I view VS generally as just a cesspit of butthurt trolls that come to try and start shitpost wars so generally avoid commenting here. But since this is about something I have a lot of experience with when it happened let’s do some analysis.

        It must really be a pain in the butt that no one even showed up for that silly halloween party so it had to be rescheduled so that Alts could attend it to pad the numbers lol.

        All you have to do is look at how bad she has been doing the past few years to know what quality of person Jynx and her cohort of buddies were. Even her little butt goblins didn’t even stick it out with here in the end, if you truly are ignorant as to what happened to EoC you should not defend them. They are also a major part of why all the rumors of Novus started when they failed their attempted takeover there and had to steal ideas to ‘start their own sim’.

        Should we talk about h ow she wouldn’t give her factional leads the time of day unless she was ERPing with them in some way? How she completely lost interest or actively attempted to sabotage and steal things from players if they refused her advances? How she was caught up in a scandal about Pedophilia with a player she knew for a fact was underaged? How about that time they lost over 40 players overnight because TWO ENTIRE FACTIONS and ALL THEIR FRIENDS got tired of her and her buddies bullshit with smashing amazing storylines simply because they were on the losing end of the outcomes? Shall we talk about how they lost their entire Fae faction prior to that because the leads got hold of logs and proof of how shitty they actually were and how they viewed their players as nothing more than cash cows?

        The entire “Notecard Incident” as it has become known with EoC didn’t even include a quarter of the information that was actually going on behind the scenes and all those people involved still play SL and mostly still communicate with each other.

        She shows up for SL events and just…Inserts herself like she’s some sort of in control, but then goes and tries to play the victim card at every chance she can when she sees people she doesn’t like. Everything she involves herself in becomes a mess, she had some attempt at a shop at one point that crashed and burned because she wasn’t even doing her own work, she would advertise in her discord that they “Had a spot for one of their wonderful creators” which ultimately meant “Make the gifts for me so I can exploit it” then would turn around and keep something like half to 80 percent of the proceeds at events meant to be for charity.

        This is what you are defending, This is the trash you’re trying to play white knight to the name of. You can be as passive aggressive with the entire “Hope you are doing better” dummy act but the truth is that you reap what you sow and Jynx and EoC has definitely deserved and reaped every bad thing that has happened to them.

        And let’s play honesty here, we all know you aren’t just some random player devoid of the facts, it’s apparent in the way you have such a hate boner for one specific thing and white knight so much for all the ones that have steadily had their BS come to the light and are “Coincidentally” the other side of the isle.

        It’s definitely not suspicious that you are constantly involved in shit slinging against Novus, EP, Ketsui and those involved with those things while trying to play gate guard against trash like Jynx and Grim (There are way more but we’ll leave that alone for now)

        And the ball kicker? Is all this was information that has been public knowledge for years now and longtime players of SL have usually had some first hand experience of do you think all those of us who were involved in all these fiascos just quit playing and it’s now in the clear?

      • Oh man I love you.

        I was there for the fae factions incident with Odium and a few other previous to it. It’s so nice to see someone else speak out about it.

      • All i am saying is that they may had horrible experience with the sim, but some genuinely enjoyed their time until they saw shit go down, but i agree that things happen for a reason.
        I am not playing dumb just because i am wishing nothing but the best for the person.

        I want to atleast just make sure someone knows its going to be okay at the end of the day, after all this is all just pixels.

      • That’s an awful big tonal shift of attitude there from “Wish I could give you a cute little star” done up top huh?

        I’m going to guess you responded to that one first then caught wind that someone who was actually around for all the shit and knows the dirty little insides came along.

        The fact of the matter is that all those people you’re playing SA with are right, what they’re saying is truth and you have yet to provide one Iota of it or this so called ‘proof’ that you claim to have seen defending them? Because there is nothing that can adequately defend them, they are garbage and they know it. No amount of trying to play at the edges and spread only the information THEY want is going to work in the end because they’ve burned all their bridges and the wider SL community knows and/or has been present for it.

        What makes it even better is how when you start losing you devolve to “LMAO you still responding, butthurt lol” but it’s a major face slap when you start getting hammered like this huh?

        Shall I continue outing dirty laundry? Because this stupidity has honestly gone on long enough and you morons coming here like petulant little goblins is starting to get old but that list is awful long, I’m guessing we can play the little game you all try to play for many months to come just by dropping a few pieces every week.

        Shall we touch upon the constantly stolen christmas ornaments?(This bitch must be haunted by the grinch) to get more money out of people? Shall we talk about how Grimm and Mesmer recycle mesh files they stole some years ago, how even just recently things like this came to light?

        https://www.flickr.com/photos/138457949@N02/52862927966/
        https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Vae-Victis-Themis-Judgement-Hammer/24788556

        Yeah, they definitely didn’t steal those files huh? What was their vision? Dollar signs and bandit masks?

        Oh I got one, how about how Jynx’s grandparent has died approximately 3 times in the time since she opened EoC and she conveniently needs money for it each time? How she suddenly has a kid that she is just so proud of how smart they are with blender/scripting but snorts condiment packets? Oh I got a nice one, there was that whole bit where her SO was a known Neo-Nazi.

        Here’s a good final one for this array of stupidity, how many people know that Jynx, Grimm, Mesmer and all of them have been good buddies for a long long time? Isn’t that a fkin’ funny coincidence? Pieces of trash doing trash things and sticking together huh?

        Your gusto seems to have deflated a whole lot there, maybe you spent too much time scamming fortnite yeah?

        I’m not going to say there isn’t some clout to all the rumors about Novus and Ketsui or her friends either. There might be, I have yet to see one Iota of proof about it but they might be.

        So far it’s been a bunch of dildos upset they aren’t getting their way waging some sort of SL “Crusade” but hey the possibility is there but you know what? So fking what, they aren’t the ones constantly coming on here to try and start shit with their alts hoping people don’t figure out who they are.

        If those things were true? They have actively tried to improved themselves not played at secret agent man for 6 damn years, from what I can see they genuinely care about the things they do to the point it’s almost a detriment to them. Novus has survived for 8(9?) years now even though it’s a ‘dead sim’. None of you have the care or balls to pony up that much money for something you believe in, that speaks volumes about YOUR character and THEIRS. We all move on but I have kept an eye on them as they evolve and they’ve started heading in the right direction lately, I truly look forward to the end result of this recent shift they’ve started, and from what I can tell most of the people that pass through do as well.

        That’s more discipline and love to something than any of you greedy twats ever had so maybe, just maybe you should call it quits and actually try,I dunno, being fking good people because we can always come out of the woodworks and make you so shame addled you don’t want to continue.

        And you all did it to your damn selves, one tiny bridge at a time.

      • They literally stole stories from players back in 2019, 2020, and 2021. The people that made EoC a great place spoke out,got banned, and silenced! And more so ignored when the admins were WARNED about certain players too.

        If the admins had been true to their words, it wouldn’t have died, it’s just a big stupid joke. It’s been dead for longer than a year.

      • I returned to sl back in 2019 and played in EoC for a while. All I remember before moving sims is the retarded wolf faction lead leaving, then coming back, started gatekeeping, then left again. The faction was replaced by another group.
         Then one day the person who played Rathus put a notecard in the group stating how he turned down Jynx’s sexual attempts on him (or the character), resulting in her disregarding him and his faction’s storyline. She gets another fuckbuddy named Chozar who she lets run simwide events and also play a god(?). Either way that was a bombshell dropped on the whole public which I think sent the sim downhill.

      • Hah. Cause literally Chozar had a character that had godhood abilities. I do remember that. I may actually have the note card still. I will have to check. I think I posted the VS about the NC when it happened.

    • eoc brought me such great memories and rp stories, and the people i’ve met i am still close with, i know there has been bad experiences with other people in the past but it is what it is, if a person thinks that way, then let them have it.

      • Idk it’s just weird to me that people call it Cliquey when there literally is no Clique?

        Like????

        I rpd there as a massive 7′ tall fucking Anthro Dog. If Cliques existed I should have been hard shunned by them surely???

      • i wholeheartedly believe its some people who actually were around the time where shit started to go down, toxicity had started to revolve around especially within staff and some players.

        Issues not being addressed but ive been around eoc since 2021, been introduced eoc by a person whom i met randomly on a sim, and ever since i made great friends who are close to me now and very well and dear to my heart.

        Even as a new player at that time, i felt so welcomed and loved, even when i wasn’t involved in the royal family, i was treated like one of the community.

        Though everyone has had bad experiences and its okay! as a mature person, ill always tell this to people who are on here and try to start shit: if you had a bad experience, its okay. learn from that bad experience to shield yourself better and learn the red flags. if you are someone who are not going through it, i hope you never go through any bad experience in your life.

        but I am with you on this, i would’ve been shunned away as well but i was welcomed as family within the community!

    • Sadly, it was pretty cliquey. Went there a few times and everyone stayed in their little groups for the most part. Finally I just stopped showing up all together. It looked pretty but just too many people not willing to welcome new folk.

      • I mean when I was brand new to EoC in Jan of 2021 I was received rather Warmly so.

        I’ve just never seen any instances of people not willing to help new players at all.

    • If you joined during the death knell days, then sure. It wasn’t cliquey because there was nobody around.

      Otherwise, if you weren’t ‘in’ with the royal family you could get fucked.

  68. I keep seeing these secrets about Mesmer and Vae Victis. Yet, I don’t ever see a follow-up and evidence to anything posted about them – This has been going on for a bit with the last few secrets but it’s been nothing but profile screenshots and white on backgrounds, come on give us something proper about it, wheres the receipts to what Grim and Mesmber has done?

    #32 is the only one I’ve seen that’s actually a followup to any of this.

    Come on people, stop with the words post the evidence!

    • its just probably a really sad and pathetic person with no life trying to tear them apart at a time where they are struggling, ive seen multiple “evidence” that isn’t really adding up with their statements.

      i wouldn’t listen to them if i were you really.

      • I would rather let that evidence be exposed by the one who is starting all the unwanted drama just to so prove my point, even if it takes time <3

      • I think your mind would change once you get to see it first hand by them, but i hope you take care of yourself and enjoy your day! <3

      • Quite the one person show you are. I think I know who you are but, I will not drop names.

      • You could change people’s minds yet refuse to do so. You aren’t any better than the person you think is stirring unnecessary drama. <3 You too.

    • Completely agree with this and I tend to sit at the side lines quietly and watch so wheres the proof

      • The truth is Ketsui linked more receipts and she has a portfolio on flickr where she showed mesh work she has done in the past
        https://www.flickr.com/photos/138457949@N02/albums/72177720306398713
        She worked for Vae Victus for 4 years as a mesher. Grim provided hand drawn designs and she worked with him. He has been working with others to basically re-make those same older products such as the big hammer, the sword he just released, the horns he just released in a collab with cureless. The ram shaped horns he keeps making were originally hers as well but they keep being twisted and tortured every new release.. Like there’s nothing wrong with not being able to mesh yourself, many can’t, but I question if she gave him permission to keep using the meshes she made while she’s no longer working with them?
        And for some reason people keep saying she’s copying them, stealing their ideas and threatening her and not letting her move on or forward even when Grim himself asked people to stop. So.. why is it still happening? Why is this still being perpetuated when it’s been cleared?

  69. If your name begins with the Letters a-z and you use child avatar and your sl family names begins with Blep you are a disgusting human being. You should be a shame if yourself for allowing AI images on my friends grid. No wonder we booted you out of the club.

  70. Is it funny about this crazy JANIRE COBA accusing Lakua and Pupito of Nazi tattoos? First, they never did tattoos that I know of and second, PUPITO in RL is JEWISH. I think the psychopath here is Janire, they will probably say that I am Pupito but no, what’s more, Pupito has not been in SL for 2 years because he is working as a musician. This woman is disgusting, just seeing her FB disgusts me.
    ALL COMES BACK IN LIFE.

    • Lol no wonder why you defend him, you can’t read lol i NEVER said shit about Pupito making tattoos AND Pupito runs Hideki, so HE IS in SL.

      •  You’re right, I hadn’t read the post correctly, it refers to ACCESS about the tattoos,sorry for that.
        But that doesn’t take away all the hatred you have inside and that way of attacking people who have helped you. You feel between disgust and sadness at the same time.
        And the last thing I heard about Pupito is that he is in ARGENTINA making music, he doesn’t need SL to live his life. All of this makes me sick, so here ends my “defense” of an old friend who helped me a lot, and you too! and I know it faithfully.

      • not that I know any facts or details on this but um.. you do know that someone can be “in ARGENTINA making music” and still use SL.. right? Not everyone uses SL to live their life… some just use it for fun and socializing. Crazy concept, I know.

      • Can someone please explain the whole story? I am so confused by these secrets.

      • this is like watching a couple fight in public – it’s not our business but we can’t help but stare.

      • I will give you a brief summary, JANIRE COBA is a shitty person, he harasses and defames other creators and events for fun, important events like ACCESS, ANTHEM, KUSTOM9, COLLABOR88 AND FAMESHED support this trashy person by giving him a place, he recently defamed the store IONIC on FB and then had to rectify it because it was a lie.

    • And as I understand it, Pupito and Lakua received her at their RL house, they were friends. I have participated in The Chapter Four (Pupito and lakua event) and I remember that Janire Coba was the manager and Belle Epoque was a “poses” brand.
      Pupito and Lakua introduced her to clothing design, they found her someone to make her models. That’s how she started her clothing brand that she didn’t even model.
      I am a simple observer and a defender of the truth, unfortunately I don’t talk much with my friend for issues that are not relevant, but believe me, Janire is not right in the head. Oh!.. I am NOT making these posts, whoever is making them THANK YOU, it seems that this woman has problems with quite a few people, I will let pupito know this (I have her personal email), just so you are aware of this psychopath. YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS LISTEN TO BOTH VERSIONS OF THINGS. It makes me angry that they want to denigrate someone when these people helped her and many others grow their brand when they had their The chapter four event.
      Janire, you are ungrateful for life and I do not say more things because I am not like you and in any case pupito and lakua are the ones who have to take part in this matter, I am a simple designer and, as I said, an observer of this story. Believe me or not, I don’t care.
      I said.

      • You should talk to Lakua like i did, lol she’ll tell you the truth like she did to me. You’re too lost in Pupito’s arguments.

    • Maybe you should go back and read that again. “but ArchiveNation is there again, after their Nazi tattoo….” kind of hard to read anything else when you right off spread misinformation.

      also if seeing her FB disgusts you why look? Facebook has this fantastic block feature that makes it so you never even know someone is on there.

    • If you are the one sending this posts for weeks then i am sorry to say but looks like you have some sort of obssession with them…

    • Janire uses Pupito as an excuse to harass, TO THE EVENTS THAT SUPPORT THIS SHIT, gentlemen, take out the garbage that already smells

  71. #9 – Who cares if people wanna enjoy playing around with AI and making photos of their avatars. this post screams of “Stop liking what I don’t like”

    • Unfortunately, the whole idea of using AI is a hotly controversial one when you factor in using existing art to enhance/base an AI image. For THAT reason, I would argue not to use AI. But using automated filtering and editing websites… I see nothing wrong with it. Those MORPH photos people used to do… those need to be burned. those creepy smiles still haunt my nightmares.

    • I think this is more about stores using AI in their advertising so that the picture doesn’t look like what you biy

    • What’s the problem now, automod? Not allowed to mention MidJourney? Photoshop? make some fucking sense

    • I mean, most people’s avatars inworld after you’ve seen them on Flickr post-edit are terribly disappointing, so I guess if they want to keep disappointing people with their reality who cares? The only thing that bothers me is when people publicly post those pictures as if they were their own actual artwork- meaning, no mention of the AI platform they used- and then accept compliments for it as if they did anything but click a filter button or type a few word prompt. At least people who use Photoshop actually have some kind of real skill.

    • Creatives SHOULD care. Because it’s unmanaged stolen artwork fed into a machine mixed with more stolen data and art.

    • Not sure what happened, but the comment that I had to copy and paste because of the automod being a pain in the ass as usual said that most people’s avis are disappointing compared to their heavily edited Flickr pics, so who gives a shit if they want to be even more disappointing in their reality unless they are actually taking credit for those pictures as if they were their own artwork. People who aren’t demoing before they spend real money on virtual goods are plenty stupid regardless of whether creators use AI on their ads.

      The only thing that bothers me is when people post that shit as their own, trying to make copyright claim- against the ToS of MidJourney and probably other tools as well- without mentioning it was made with an AI tool. I’ve seen people accepting compliments for “their art” as if they did more than click a filter button or type a prompt. Flickr posts have all rights reserved by default, and I’ve never seen anyone change those settings when they post things that don’t belong to them. That is literally theft. I swear, if all the thieves in SL got shut down, at least half the population would disappear.

  73. #47: the amount of dirt on this man. and he thinks that just because he deletes all of the messages that that saved him. LMFAO hope you rot below a jail you scumbag #metoo

    • Or maybe you are the drama. She’s a sweet and caring person. If that’s the way you feel leave New Haven and stop being part of the problem. I would bet this is Jack or one of her flunkies posting this garbage. She’s been tripping on Rose West since she joined. She hates any sort of competition or feeling as if someone could replace her. Go back to Woodcrest and stop panhandling for money Jack. You’re probably one of the ones posting about Cara too. Get a life already troll.

      • Lol Jack panhandles? It doesnt suprise me, but Id love to know the tea! And yes, she is a jealous bitch who feels threatened by anyone who has a talent or skill. When all she does is whore around and play her stupid parody songs at her “DJ sets”. She doesnt know what collaboration or team work is.

      • Jack , Panhandle you got jokes friend she has never panhandled perhaps your looking to take shade off the issue at hand but inventing slander isnt the way dumbass

      • Wow, your comprehension skills are very poor. I’m not the one who said she did, I said I wouldnt be surprised. Curious Onlooker is the one who said she panhandles.

      • Are you fucking serious?! There are multiple people who this has happened to. Are you blind or are you trying to be obtuse? Rose tries to use her disability to get sympathy from people, but in reality she is so despicable and wicked I hope her gods take pity on her.

      • Rose tried to use her disability? You mean her Autism? Her ADHD ? Her Cancer? Be more specific ? Maybe one of her other health issues? I haven’t talked to her since just after her cancer diagnosis but I’ll tell you she has never asked for sympathy and only talks openly about her struggles with people she really trusts. So I hope your God gives you awful karma for using someone’s health issues on this site to try to degrade and ridicule them. Clearly you do not know her or you’re one of the people she realized were awful and she cut off.

      • That’s fucking laughable. You must actually ‘be’ Rose. Enjoy living in your fucking delusion.

      • Actually not Rose and you brought up her health so I asked for you to tell us what she uses to get people to feel sympathy for her? Because unless you in her circle she doesn’t talk openly to everyone about her health. I’ve heard her make fun of herself for her autism and adhd in the past but someone who wants sympathy and attention posts on this site, posts on fb that they have cancer to get attention. Considering she doesn’t do that says a lot about you not her. You talking about her health I bet 100% if she seen this she knows exactly who you are because you brought up her health.

      • Ah yes, the ol’ “I have cancer, ADHD, autism, woah is me” shtick to garner sympathy and play victim so that she can get away with being an asshole to people.

      • Again if you going to say something, please explain when she has done that. Instead of just saying shit to say it.

        Rose is a lot of things but she doesn’t use any of her stuff as an excuse for anything she does. Considering you likely didn’t know she had any of those things before writing this comment just shows how stupid you truly are.

      • Nah Gamer@work is right. I like Cara but Rose is toxic lunatic. You probably like her because either you are her, or you’re someone high up in NH that she kisses your ass and cant see her true side. She claims to be “bullied” but shes the bully. She calls herself SweetRose but she’s just a Karen

      • This is amusing, Rose is a bully? Who did she bully?

        I want to see the proof on that one. Rose can be overwhelmingly hurt but I’ve never seen her bully anyone.

        I want to see where she bullied? Because normally whenever someone said anything bad about Rose she brought the proof she was in the right.

        She is overprotective so she might speak up and hurt your feelings if she sees you being a bully.

      • Rose has been accused of lying and being crazy and being a bully in the past. Even doctoring chats. Hell, i was one of her accussers. However she was 100% right and I am sorry but she may sometimes lose it but it is ultimately because she is trying to do the right thing. And her proof is real every time.

      • You and me both. I just hope this time she has friends who have her back.

      • I want to see where she bullied? Because normally whenever someone said anything bad about Rose she brought the proof she was in the right.

        Why would she be bringing you proof? Because you’re management and you’re looking into a matter? There would be no other reason. You are either Harlowe, or Cara.

        As someone who’s neutral and in NH and just observing, I have serious issues with leadership involved in gossip on Virtual Secrets. Does New Haven Management not have a rule about their leadership posting on Virtual Secrets?

      • Why does asking for proof make it management? Isn’t Jack management? I swear it’s been said in this server that she is a manager. Sometimes people just want to see you don’t talk out of your butt whole all the time. They want if you’re going to accuse someone that you show them.

      • Jack is in charge of events and not any kind of official manager as far as I know. The only upper managers are Brian Cara and Tracy. Brian and Cara would use their names if they posted here as they have done before and I don’t think Tracy gives two shits about this place so I imagine the ones that do post here are not managers for a reason

      • I was looking through old posts she was referred to as an events manager I thought but I stand corrected thank you.

      • I agree, where is the proof? That’s one thing these trash talking twats forget, actual proof about anything they post here. A bunch of fake drama-whores. And no, I’m not Harlowe so try again.

      • Okay first off Jack is a sweetheart and I know her better then this . She would take issues straight to the person so rather then point fingers and look like an ignorant pos learn facts before blasting someone lord , bunch of ignorance being shown i thought adults could be that this is sick and sad SRW can be drama and she damned well knows it so STOP blaming before you know the entire story ffs

      • The truth is no one knows who posted this but I doubt she’s a good person if people are assuming she is the one posting it. I also doubt you know the whole story either unless you are Rose or Jack.

    • Rose West is a popular serial killer. I don’t think serial killers do drama. I think they just kill those who go against them.

      Rosebud, chronic rose, rose west, she has had her drama same as everyone else.

      She is also kind, caring, giving, hard working, loyal, and so much more. If she is in New Haven now they are lucky to have her. Some of us regret losing a friend like her.

    • Well, Jack has resigned as Events Manager. Now its the marketing manager (Artie) who has taken over and has apparently thrown the rule book of event’s on the calendar. Some people have already quit, and all the while the feeling of an ever tightening clique is now strangling any hope of a fair and open events team forming is happening. They have lost Elite Angel Wrestling (they quit), they have lost the ONLY UK/EU timed regular event (attic), some of the staff has quit, yeah, everything is going great! LMAO If you are not part of the Artie fam and Clique, then you are ignored. Simple as that.

      • Lmfao Jacks whole family was the events team, she would hire other DJs and only her, Max or Mak would get any DJ jobs.
        Jack quit thinking everyone would beg her to stay. Same with her desperate comments in off topic about how she had nothing now, how she put her status to beg for attention.
        Her own fault what’s happening to her. I know 5 people who have left New Haven because of Jack. Rose refused to leave and got posted and degraded on here.
        But sure… Artie is the problem, or was it Rose? Or Scarlett? Harlowe? Cara?
        Always blaming everyone else, never taking a hard look in the mirror. I have known Jack a really long time, well before New Haven even existed but her need to be queen bee, most important, has always been a problem for her. She’s mean and elitist to everyone until she feels the walls coming down then she sucks up.

      • Also Vic never did the attic through events. He also closed due to rl reasons and was gone for weeks.

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