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  1. (50) I suppose I’ll have to refute this because someone obviously doesn’t know the entire story here.

    I’m not doing to do an AITA, because I admit I am. I cheated on my partner and have admitted to this several times even during conversations with that person; however if I say what was the catalyst to all of this, I get talked down at and told I’m not taking responsibility for what I did.

    Let’s give some much needed context to this story. Several months before anything had occurred, one of my then gf/partner’s best friends/exes were messaging them with messages that would frequently upset them to the point of them leaving our private time, to go deal with them. Messages that included them attempting to get my partner to leave me and go back with them. I had finally had enough and told them that they needed to drop them, because they were getting in the way of our relationship and for the sake of it, this back and forth needed to end. Instead of agreeing like any normal partner would; I get told point black that they will not be getting rid of this person, and that I’m just imagining things and shouldn’t worry. I wanted them gone, but gave in to their compromise of them exclusively talking to them for only one of the RP games we’re into on SecondLife. In hindsight, I should have just ended the relationship there, because talk about an enormous red flag but instead nothing was resolved and I had this nagging… THING at the back of my mind.

    We (She) ended up a part of this kind of family thing, and took a liking to this person in their group, let’s call her K. They ended up becoming “sisters” and then decided to take on similar appearances to one another. Apparently she had started flirting with me (Honestly very bad at reading advances a lot of the time) and my partner picked up on it. She informed me that it was happening, but I said that I didn’t see it at the time (I really didn’t). After a few months it became more noticeable and I guess I flirted back (Nothing serious at first, but yep, I fucked up). K and my partner became gossip pals and the best of friends; however, K decided to come to me with all the little dark secrets my partners had been confiding in her, that I didn’t know about. I was dumb enough to confide in her at the time because apparently I’m a genius. Long story short, she played both of us against one another with all of this. Because we both had been confiding in her, she knew exactly what vulnerabilities to peck at (Including the one about her ex), and came at me with words of “I deserve better,” “I wouldn’t leave you to talk with my ex,” and other sweet nothings. Eventually I broke down and committed the act; I cheated. Somewhere in my brain I knew it was wrong, but here I had a woman who was promising me the world and my partner who was lying about things and wouldn’t acknowledge how I felt about things. I chose to cheat; and it was wrong. We ended up getting with each other a handful of times over the course of a few months and refused to do anything after it came out that apparently K was doing this with several men (Don’t I just feel special.) Their little family thing began to fight, and of course this was let out into the open and we broke up; it was the logical course and I can’t fault my partner for it.

    Here’s where the fun parts come in. Two ish weeks after my partner broke up with me and claimed I totally broke her, I get pulled into a private call with myself and a few others. She then told us some private things she was keeping to herself. Guess what mine was?! Not even a month after we broke up, she’s already back with her previous ex! The one she apparently gas lighted me about the entire time before I had even had relations with K.

    So while I admit to cheating and can’t take back what I’ve done; in some sick way I feel vindicated and left wondering about what actually was going on the entire time.

  2. 31 I got a RL backstabbing sister and have had two in SL…. I’m done with sisters 😛 

    40 I wonder if the same person makes all the memes about that Game of Thrones sim.

    46 OMG! No truer words have ever been spoken! You can’t find anything in your groups or inventory!

    53 Yep! Back to the backstabbing sisters

  3. There’s nothing incorrect in 32 or 48.
    As for 22, people can be whatever they want to be in SL, and are under no obligation to tell you anything about their real lives.

    • You must be one of the deceiving people… ever heard about there is a REAL person behind the avatar? Did you know people with no empathy are psychos?

      • People play SL for very different reasons and it’s their decision whether they want to disclose who they really are but again they should be honest about it. I have met very close friends on SL who are now a part of my RL but not everyone wants to go down that path and if they’re clear about that it’s fine with me that way I won’t disclose anything about mine with them but in all honesty the ones getting fucked over are just as much to blame… it’s 2022 so before getting serious with anyone in that way and if someone won’t talk with you on voice and flick their cam on to say hi that’s a huge red flag from the get and you should not engage in any personal way with those people.

      • I cannot even understand people who engage in SL-only relationships then get butthurt and heartbroken when they get cheated/dumped/ghosted/catfished. Like bitch what did you expect? You were pining for a serious and genuine connection but all you could really offer was your pixels and emotes. Get a fucking grip! People misunderstand the saying that there is a real person with real feelings behind the avatar. That may be true to a certain degree but if you are not willing to show the REAL YOU underneath that virtual persona then you were never in a REAL RELATIONSHIP to begin with. Take it for what it is: roleplay and make-believe!

    • I agree people are under no obligation to tell anything about their real lives but what isn’t okay is people lying about it with intent to deceive for their own personal gain. If they don’t want to disclose their RL that’s understandable but make that clear and don’t purposely deceive that’s when the head fucking starts and avatar ends imo.

  4. 51- I don’t think it would be too hard for events to have a blogger manager that talks to the bloggers, maybe even have them fill out a form that says which stuff they’d prefer to blog (like body wise, make-up, parts, etc), or a section of “stores I don’t wish to blog for” and just…don’t ask why. Don’t let drama be a part of it, just simply understand they don’t want to and move on. Then from there, start assigning things, or try giving them options until they’re all blogging the same shit or only picking a few stores. Then give the blogger(s) who aren’t branching out assignments, not even specific stores but “you gotta pick x many to blog from.” Make them earn those freebies, I’m sure a lot of those designers throw in fatpacks hoping a decent amount will get blogged and it must suck when no one’s blogging their stuff at all.

    • In theory this is a good idea but it’s SL & drama is a part of everything. No one in SL is capable of being so professional.

    • Honestly, I think it’s just better to have bloggers be optional for designers, and for designers to seek out their own personal bloggers in their own time. I mean, I have to pay a fee to join the event, why should I -have- to give out my fatpacks (or whatever) for free when I’m not guaranteed, or don’t need, a “blogger?”

      If I was to get one, I’d like to select someone reliable, myself. Someone I get along with, someone who shares my tastes (so their photos are in line with the aesthetic of my store, & they actually enjoy my stuff – no point in it if we both dislike it, right?) and someone who can be trusted to put effort in instead of just snatching up all the “blogpack” freebies and doing nothing with them. I already give out free stuff to people I’ve known for a long time to help me take ad pics. So I already have them, why do I need to give out freebies to strangers as well as that? I don’t get it.

      As funny as it’s been to watch bloggers rage in these comment sections, I don’t entirely hate the concept – it’s literally just the mandatory blogpacks some events have that bothers me, and said events also ~coincidentally~ have very cliquey bloggers who all focus on a certain aesthetic.

      • Events have blogger packages and bloggers to advertise the event. Even if your item isn’t blogged many times, its advantages to the designers in the event simply because people look around, and end up buying your items. Please stop whining about having to provide blog packages. If you item isn’t blogged send a message to the event manager or bloggers, and ask them why, or even if they can blog your item. Grow up and advocate for yourself!
        #22 What they hell did SClub do to you? They have 3 different packages for you to choose. In the fatpack they usually offer several accessories + styles and fatpack of the hair.
        #45 I have used the points several times to get stuff, so check with the creator, because it does work! It might just be at an event points don’t work (although I have used them at events too)

  5. #13. I think it’s funny how they try so hard to include “human” content in their event to try and draw more than furries to it, when they should just focus on being a furry-only event and maybe give those spots to people who aren’t gonna put out shit products. I also can’t really blast people for not being “on theme” because the fuck is the theme this round? You also have all the people up Anima’s ass making stuff soley for their heads so of course half of it is going to look the same. I don’t think there’s much, if any, communication between staff or stores either cause y’all be picking the same animal/species, or the same store gets blogged a 100x and nobody else

  6. WAHOOO NOTHING ABOUT WOODCREST FOR ONCE! Time to celebrate, but then again, there’s always next week…

  7. #24 yeah we are going to ignore it! Her hair rocks and the assessories that come with the fatpack are amazing. I buy all her hair! I love it! If you don’t like it don’t buy it. Simple.

  8. #23
    You should concentrate on fixing your grammar.
    you, your, you’re.
    learn to fucking use them correctly.

    #32 nobody cares about male bodies and body mods, other than women.

    #47 Amen. My Black Book with stores gets thicker every day.

    • For real, they literally said “your” in the sentence right above saying “you’re” using them both exactly in the same way… And that was the least problematic grammar of the whole post

    • Look at spellcheck Karen here. You realize not everyone has English as their first language, right? They may not be as fluent in English but many countries educate in multiple languages. How much you want to bet they speak more than one while your entitled American ass is like sP3Ak 3ngl1sh.

  9. Tattoo drama: Ya’ll won’t be laughing and saying “who cares”, when SL changes hands and whoever it’s passed to CRACKS down on the ToS, and actually shuts down all those tattoo stores who’ve stolen anything. There’s gonna be like 3 stores left who draw their own shit!
    SL doesn’t do shit about it because they EARN from the theft; it’s corrupt but they’re taking the “If we ignore it, it’s not happening”, approach, which is BS.

    STOP supporting these stores who are blatantly profiting from other’s hard work – how would you feel if someone stole anything of yours and started earning money from it? Pretty sure you’d be pissed…

  10. #11- if this about Harlow as in Harlow Heslop\Holiday, everybody knows she messes with her ex & then tells lies on him. She tells everybody he stalks her but he doesn’t, she’s just lying. She started up with Dusty\Harvey because he was good at FMD. All the FMD drama went down & she needed someone to bank roll the sim for the Burrow so she started up with Dusty\Harvey & his crew with money. She bullied enough people because of her own insecurities & karma is catching up.

  11. 22 – Stop it right there. Don’t push that bullshit. No one has an issue with people deciding their gender. What people do have an issue with is LYING OR DECEIVING people when you are a female in RL acting as a male in SL and having sex with other females, or creating a gay male avatar and engaging other unsuspecting gay male avatars – or being a gay male creating a female avatar to have sex with straight men. You are missing the point. Last week’s post on females acting as gay males to engage gay boys for sex must have hit a nerve. The people involved with this are so self-important – look no further and you will find them to be “male fashion models”, “fanboys” and Mr. SL Pageant contestants. Insulting the real femboys and men participating in contests. If you are trans, admit it as some gay guys have preferences just like straight people. Gay boys aren’t animals that will have sex with everybody or anything. Start respecting honesty and truth sicko!

    • You are right. So no 22 wants us all to be what we want because it’s SL and there are no real people behind the avatars. Lying, deceiving and dishonesty just got prime position and FUCK US real people who want to build real friendships with other real people in SL. So in SL is ok to lie and that is why good people have left and are leaving.

      • I think it’s a question of expectations and boundaries. I’ve seen some people with female avatars that state in their profiles that they are, in fact, men playing as a woman. But that’s rare. I don’t think most people in SL are looking for a RL connection, though. But I could be wrong.

      • No one is under any obligation to reveal anything about their real lives. Buyer beware.

      • If that’s how you feel, stay in character and be up front about it. Don’t form personal relationships with people, don’t tell them you have real feelings for them. Because if you do that based on lies, you’re a piece of shit, regardless of “obligation”.

    • It’s a cartoon world made up of people living fantasies. Not Tinder. Get real. Anyone who believes anything anyone ever says about their RL in SL is naive at best. If that was the case I could have married billionaires, noted actors, and wealthy athletes. I know better and just let them have their little fantasy fun. You should as well. Or perhaps go outside and actually meet real people if it triggers you.

  12. I get there’s a lot of furry hate. And I get why. There’s quite a few unsavory fucks who like to ruin it for everyone.
    There ARE legitimate furry sims who expressly ban anything underage and anything zoo.. you just have to find them in the sea of crazy. Just like there’s plenty of sims for humanoid avs to hang out and do whatever they like, but you have to avoid the shitty human sims, too.
    That LL lets people create child avs, knowing what they are used for, SHOULD be the issue. The world is a complete shitshow of people, so why would you ENABLE that behavior on your platform by letting places that FUNCTION around pedo and zoo activity exist.
    Oh right. Money.

  13. 23 don’t E-date SL fuckboys, problem solved.
    47 It’s advertisement. Annoying advertisement but that’s why you have the option to ignore it.

  14. #1-5
    If you only had “original design” tattoos on SL, you’d probably have a choice of about 10 tattoos total LMAO

    • If SL got rid of all the tattoo-theft, there would actually be a legit market for real tattoo art. Instead you get these lazy clowns.

      Expect better, stop paying for shit that isn’t worth the price you pay, and call out the ones who blatantly steal from other artists.

      • Then people would whine about tattoos suddenly costing 10 times as much as they used to.

      • People complain about the price of everything already, who cares; people need to grow up and realize if you can’t afford something you just can’t have it and it’s not really a freakin tragedy.

        Hell, I wouldn’t care if they download their own clip art and paste it into a SL UV map, wear it all they want. Just don’t sell it.

  15. #44 #48 #52 These are all related. Money is not limited, the only reason it is limited on secondlife is because secondlife has a limited number of people who log in every day. The population of people who log in now are aging and have problems relating to the younger generation of genz and zoomers, so they drive them away from their communities and ignore them when they join secondlife to create. In turn, like with everything else, that generation of zoomers leave with their audience. For example, the owner of Waretta who is also transphobic is in every event, and is best friends with many creators who support her and defend her behavior because, many of them think the same way.

    If you cannot see that gatekeeping your events, communities, blogged clothes, geriatric hair and your weird roleplay sims hurt you in the end, then you deserve the limited income you earn on secondlife and you deserve to remain salty bitchy boomers.

    Secondlife is full of boomers and older millennials. They are the ones who cause all the drama and are the most ignorant, uneducated, racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic and fatphobic generation, just like in real life. They ruin countries with their egos and ruin both real life and virtual economies because of their greed.

    They are the generation that normalized bullying, and taught their children the same. That is why many of them bully each other, bully new commers and bully genz or zoomers that joins their toxic communities.

    Don’t cry about limited money now, these are the consequences of your actions.
    Think of how you treat your children in real life. If your 21 year old offspring hates you or thinks you are annoying in real life, then imagine how the 21 year olds online think of you when you are acting 10 times worse than your ignorant and uneducated real life boomer self.

    • I completely agree with you! I do not own a business in SL but I run multiple business in RL and I see this happening too. Thing is you can’t walk away from RL but you can surely walk away from SL. There is nothing more ugly than discrimination, it doesn’t matter what is about IS JUST WRONG. After all we are all people no matter how we look like we are made of the same material lol and what we do privately it is our business and not anyone else’s. So honestly i have a hard time understanding why people keeps on talking about one’s sexual choices i mean… SERIOUSLY our sexual preferences, appearance or age does not define what we are, OUR ACTS DO!  🙄 

      • The only acceptable form of discrimination is discrimination against discrimination XD

    • There are a lot of zoomies who don’t think twaw either, but we’re too scared to say anything about it. Tbh I prefer boomer bitches who dgaf and speak their mind over men who try and turn us against each other.

      • Based take. I don’t care how old someone is, cringe is found in all generations.

      • Yeah nice try hiding your transphobia behind acronyms so people don’t catch it, fuck off.

      • Ooh no, anything but “transphobia!” I’m so scared.

        That’s sarcasm. That word stopped having an effect on us a long time ago.

      • omg good. you should be scared. the more scared you are the less decent members of society have to hear that bile.

        I hope one day all people who don’t accept trans people are so hated and despised you functionally disappear

      • As for me, I will never accept transpeople because they’re defective things, they’re not people at all. Trannies, and all members of the rainbow 🌈 community deserve a stay at a concentration camp.

        Jacob (jacobythehomie)

    • Hilariously, my club is doing great and I support a TYPE of discrimination… I have pride flags all over the sim, and make it blatant of our acceptance of the LGBTQ+ community. The only discrimination that happens is against underage avs, people playing as children, and ferals. If some bigoted trumper decides to show up on the sim and gets offended… good.. We don’t want your money, your time, or your presence.

      • *passes you a bowl* seems like you need this more than me XD Meanwhile I’m gonna keeep partying and having fun with the community I gladly protect from transphobes and bigots <3

    • Rather bunk argument not based on any facts or any real correlation other than showing you are an ageist (amongst other things). Maybe consider the fact that some creators are greedy AF. When I go to events and see tops for 1k then matching panties for an extra 1k, you are going to tell me this is a boomer or millennial issue? Btw, it’s not that I can’t afford this, just don’t think that price is worth it. I just move on to the next booth and don’t complain. There is always something better for a better price.

    • All I heard from you is “waaaa waaaa waaaa waaaa everybody homophobic/transphobic/xenophobic waaaa waaaa waaaa, everybody racist not inclusive waaaa waaaa waaaa” like STFU already.

  16. 11 – Dear hater, isnt it time to leave Harlow the fuck alone?
    The girl has literally disapeared from all social media and whoever is posting this shit is still harrasing her?? If she had a lover, you think he would be stupid enough to post this on SL secrets?
    Virtual-secrets should take some responsibility in this too. Youre literally shoving a girl to depression. Have fun with that Karma.

  17. #22, #42 PREACH!
    #24 Do you get the product? Yes? Then not a scam.
    #46 Just when you thought you’d seen the most ridiculous complaints, there’s this person complaining about the use of ✭ʂρεςίαɭ✿ςɧαɾαςτεɾʂ☆ lol
    #51 Sure, it’s not nice that an event forces all creators to provide bloggers packs and then nobody blogs your item, it sucks even more when you bring it up with the organizing team and they ignore you, but that’s not on the bloggers. That is, again, a problem with the event organization. Criticize the event’s organizers and criticize the event’s blogger manager all you want, that still doesn’t mean that bloggers are, as the OP from a couple weeks ago stated, leeches who just want free shit for nothing but a shitty snapshot.
    #52 Loving how “millennial does not mean young anymore” yet the youngest millennials are still in their mid-20’s. I know what you mean, boomers and even some gen Xers still say “millennials” meaning teenagers, but it was still funny to read how mid 20’s to late 30’s is “not young anymore”.

    • The reason why people agree with 46 is because SL search engines are absolute trash to begin with, inworld and MP, and when you use characters that literally can’t be read by it, it just makes it that much harder to find you and your location/products.

    • as a millennial in early 30s i would just like to say i’m young thank you very much and i absolutely find it hilarious someone thinks that’s “old”. i started in sl in my early 20s. i’m not a teenager anymore, but i am young. also i dont cause drama, i have the most peaceful sl ever. the most drama i find is caused by baby boomers, i used to be friends with some and let me tell you, their jealousy is what causes drama. we should stop being agist towards them, they do it enough themselves. just let people and their age be. we will all be “old” some day, doesn’t matter what “old” means to you.

  18. #15 A fucking demerit system for roleplayers is sure to boost morale. Goats gonna goat.

    • Right? They are slowly tanking that sim and it’s going to be hilarious to watch it burn

  19. #however many of these came up-
    Don’t use SL for dating… go find yourself some real people, or be prepared to be disappointed. Not only is everyone literally an av that doesn’t look like their real life selves, but you will never get a genuine feel of a person from behind a screen. No this doesn’t mean drive across the country to meet that sexy pixelated man you love oh so dearly, no this doesn’t mean online play and relationships can’t be fun and even healthy at some points… but be realistic, here.. Second life is rife with mental instability and people dealing with trauma, and predators who take advantage of that. Don’t be stupid. I don’t know who needs to hear this, but good gods, all the posts about “oh so and so cheated and I’m oh so sad”.. No shit, really? You expected “slutbag6969 resident” to be.. what.. husband material? XD

    • I think people buying into delusions has nothing to do with the other person but all with them. If they convince themselves their partner is the perfect catch that means in return that they have to be perfect, how else would they be able to attract someone who is perfect (note how every single relationship happens to be the perfect one, what are the odds). It’s people flirting with themselves, doesn’t matter who the other person is, they’re just a tool. The butthurt doesn’t occur because they actually thought someone was husband material, the butthurt occurs because now their mechanism of self adulation doesn’t work until they find a new tool.

      • Oh totally, if you think you found “the perfect person”… on SL … yea, no.. you’re pretty delusional XD People are on sl to begin with because they’re socially awkward people irl. Sorry not sorry, I’m socially awkward, too. What blows my mind is that people see sl as more than what it is. It’s a glorified chatroom. A game. I guess I’m tired of hearing the same sob story over and over again.
        Them: “Oh I met this guy and I thought he was soooo sweet, I looove hiiim”
        Me: “Ok you met them two days ago and you’ve already fucked haven’t you”
        Them: “tee-hee but he’s DifFeReNt”
        Me: “You REALLY need to stop confusing lust with love, my dude”
        Them: “Whiiiee can’t you just be happy I found my SOULMATE”
        Me: “…”

    • SLUTBAG6969 Resident is the funniest fucking insult I’ve ever hearrddddhahahahahahah!!

  20. #6: Rapid fire: Glad pounce is dead. If half of everything about FK is true, then par for coure, lmao. Furzona: Yeah confused why its here. Got a mod at a release party though so that wasn’t bad.

    #13: I was going to write out why I didn’t like Abnormality but everyone has already said it pretty much. I’ll just say I’m tired of the theme being ignored by most creators that attend *Cough* Nordic Event*Cough*. Also “Human and Furry” yeah right, fucking fur fags.

    I just hate furries I think, at least on SL. Biggest lot of drama whores.

    Sincerely, a fur fag.

  21. #2,3,4,5. Artists work hard to create and then some idiot steals it and takes claim. It’s wrong and thank you for calling it out.

    #8. This is vague. Ask yourself if the insecurity of rejection is why you’re submitting this post? I’ve learned the hard way that too many people misread signals and can’t handle rejection in Second Life so they try to find reasons and people to blame.

    #14. Wouldn’t this just be a waste of effort in the end?

    • #8 I’m actually pretty sure I know who this is about because of the “bad guy” and his “best friend” bit. And it is SO amusing to me. Wish they would have named them outright though, but oh well.  😆 

    • What a feminist hero, complaining about imaginary things that happen in SL.

    • You sure about that? Or maybe she’s running around on 1 of her many alts  🤔  Thought about that? 🙂

      • Yeah I am sure, she has posted photos of her and her baby and alts? She has been in hospital for 3 weeks and I’m on her Snapchat I’ve seen multiple photos and videos so absolutely I am sure 🙂 maybe you shouldn’t act like you know her because you obviously don’t know her as well as you think

  24. #13 Shut the fuck up stupid retarded bitch, go to any of the other 100 non-furry events on at any given time if you don’t like it.

      • Me when I TP into the midst of Abnormality (full of bimbo Kupra pregnant dogs in wigs) to buy the 5 items that fit non-furry avatars, simply because I am a menace to society & oppressor of all furries

      • I’m guessing that #13 is you then? You make this moronic post every time Abnormality rolls around, its okay for furries to have an event too you whiny little bitch.

      • Nah it’s not me. If it was me I’d use way more colorful images and descriptions.
        Besides, Abnormality just being a furry event pretending not to be a furry event is ooooold news. It’s been that way since forever.

        I’m more interested in new developments, like the Anima tea :p

  25. 30 if you’re talking about being close to team wild fire. no it’s just the drama crowd realizing their losing so they have to work with all the other feds.

    • I don’t know. I mean Lyra has also broken the community up more times than I can count myself. I mean she did ban 80% of the community at some point and played favorites. And this isn’t the first time either as Lyra has literally only given stuff for free so that people think they are your friend. Lyra will never be your friend. She promised people that the gacha redeemable will never go away only to suddenly tell to everyone’s face “Oh I’m sorry. This redeemable ground is gone for good. How about you turn your old stuff into points or spend more money for us?” Yeah, she gave a solution for 24 hours at some point. But it sucks a lot of these moves are gone forever until updated because you either have to be Lyra’s boot licking pet to get something or hope to dear god you’re good friends with one of her other boot licking dogs. Last I remember, when I asked Lyra if she could make an exception, she said that she gave a time. Anyone who didn’t do it, fuck off. But when someone who is not staff went to her “Oh sure. Anything for the community.” Bitch you denied 80% of your community access, you hypocrite.

      So no. We haven’t lost anything. They lost a lot. And they have to work hard to earn trust. Because they know they fucked up. Also, THEY are the ones that left Phoenix Shores die. There was rumors never answered by people that ownership of Phoenix Shores was given to Miwa and people reached out to Miwa to help her keep Phoenix Shores alive. But because Miwa saw no profit in that, she never got back in touch with them. So Phoenix Shores died for nothing.

      “Oh but Wildfire brought it back once.” Isn’t that proof they could have let Phoenix Shores live? Isn’t that proof that they had people willing to support the idea of Phoenix Shores having a few more extra months or even years with the community helping out? I’m sorry. But I would be happier if they just left in general.

      • That tracks. Miwa only chases what she can benefit from. Attention and clout is her crack and the moment she doesn’t get it she leaves. Lyra? He definitely has this aura about him that screams ego but the attention he got with VWE is why Miwa sucked up to him so quickly and now apparently uses him for mesh and whatever else she can convince him to do. PS died and should have been left alone after that. Miwa keeps trying to cling to the attention and relevancy by using the build from the neotropic club on the sim she (surprise surprise) “shares” with Lyra (another case of using someone)

      • It’s weird seeing people talk about PS dying when they have literally no idea why it did. Miwa was the only reason PS made enough money to both pay rent and have a little on the side for sim assets, paying non-tip dependent staff, reducing the % we took as a cut, not to mention a full-time job’s worth of hours spent helping me each week. All her. PS died because I and the other owners failed to remove toxic people from staff, no role excluded, and let Twitter drama dictate how we did things because we had no idea how to handle the surge of negativity from accounts with 10k+ followers getting upset over literally everything

        I made the call to kill PS, there was nothing positive left. Miwa made sure that was what I wanted to do because she wanted to keep it alive in that it meant a lot to a number of people, and it did. But at that point, one large group of friends were divided into many circles of people who had beef with each other. I made a lot of the builds including Neo which I gave to Miwa and said it’d be nice to see it exist again in their new sim. Miwa was the reason a lot of what worked at PS did and sure her approach was more aggressive than mine, but without her we would have been paying $300 a month for a much more boring sim and probably $800 in assets. A couple of places still mimic PS in some ways, so she must have had some good ideas

        I know this site is a garbage fire of misinformation and weird agendas, it doesn’t bother me personally, everyone hates everyone for sport I get it. I just thought I’d clear up what I could about PS and Neo. I hope it helps, but literally no one cares anymore, it’s been dead for more than a year

      • A couple of places still mimic PS, Pffft. More like you guys mimiced someone else.

      • Nah it’s just SL and people searching shit on market place or looking at google to fit a style. I know I seen what people are getting in their sims from market place.

      • Why can’t you own up to your own faults? Let me blame literally everyone else!!

      • You AND the other owners were the problem don’t even get me started. Did Pau not harass multiple people to have suicidal thoughts and y’all condoned it? Attacked someone verbally and harassed them during an event in front of everyone and once again YALL CONDONED IT.
        You took multiple things to Twitter. Y’all pushed Beefy out of the staff when you proceeded to harass Vanity over her wrongdoings. Miwa stole money from multiple individuals and still hasn’t paid them back. Y’all didn’t pay your staff for shit, every time I went people were making around 100 lindens per event you had.

        Also Phoenix Shores was a complete rip off of Palmwood so why lie about that.

      • Damn, I didn’t even know all this. I only knew the Miwa situation where she took money from people. Whoever you are, you deserve a medal. Because damn, all these red flags. Just come to show you they were never really good people running the place or allowing really garbage people into the community only to end up destroyed.

        As said earlier, “You are the company you keep.” and “You are what you eat.”

      • Plus with Alyx gone there is nothing left of PS besides its legacy. Who knows if he’ll come back.

      • Miwa doesn’t know what she’s doing I’ll let her be forgiven for she didn’t do much besides lead people to absolute hell and making people make bad decisions like most hot chicks in life. The worse of them are those who ruined the lives and reputation of fellow wrestlers and boss other places around like they own it. You can guess who of the few I’m talking about. One owns SS the others are varied.

      • Celeste, Alyx, Pau, Charlie definitely ruined a lot of that. Pau being the absolute rabid nazi that she is pushing multiple people in the fed to suicidal thoughts and Celeste and co just letting it happen I guess

  26. #16 90% of the toddler community seem a tad crazy so…not surprised.

    • That LL lets a toddler/child community happen is.. pretty fucked up to begin with. They are 100% aware of them all being pedos, and don’t care.

  27. 12 and 20. Lol Rylie is the fakest bitch in SL. It’s about time someone put her on here. Look up Narcissist in the dictionary and you will see a photo of this bitch.

    • it’s interesting to see that I am not the only person fooled by her nicety!

      • Girl shut the fuck up. We all know you and your noob looking ass friends posted this shit. You chicken headed ass hoes need to worry about updating your avatars and let people live their lives, you bitter bitches.
        From my experience, Rylie has been nothing but kind and positive and SL needs more of that and less of YOU.
        Take a page out of her book and remove the dildo from your ass, you basic bitches.

      • lmaoo… I wouldn’t post Rylie on here.. she was nice to me.. I am not bitter about our falling out.. Nor would I drag her on VS, but think whatever you want.
        I will eat a bowl of water with a fork before I give two f’s about your anonymous opinion of me and or my friends.
        I just think it’s funny how…In one sentence you talk about letting people live their lives, then you critique other’s avi’s.. Hypocritical much?
        p.s. my avi is updated honey.. but sorry not everyone borrows begs and steals for money from others so they can get the newest tits, hair and ass..
        thanks!

      • Bitch I don’t beg for shit on this platform. And by the looks of all those profile pictures online, you look a hot ass mess.
        What I do know is that you’re lame as hell for submitting posts to this website about someone who doesn’t deserve it. Too bad the only people who care are you and your pathetic ass friends. Next time, give us some thing good and not these poorly constructed submissions.

        Kindly fuck off.

      • Lol come on here talking all big, hiding behind anon posts. :’D

        Pathetic.

      • how about you fuck off?! did I say “YOU” beg for anything, or is that you being self conscious? lmao!! Super easy to talk shit anonymously right? You see me out here plain as day with my name on my post. I ain’t hiding shit nor do I have to cower behind an anonymous platform..
        makes so much sense.. Let me post an anonymous post then put my name on the site. If I have something to say about someone I will straight out come and say it. Just because your stale raggedy ass is to afraid to come forward and gotta hide behind a screen to act tough.
        you talk tough and talk a lot of shit for someone being anonymous! 😘  😘  😘 

  28. 31 – I know this chick. We did naughty stuff and then she never talked to me again. Rude.

  29. Help our sisters in need of common sense

    Coconut30 Resident
    FunkyGirl Neox 
    grassmoon Resident
    Harlow Heslop
    mara Charisma
    Valium Lavender

  30. #48 Blowback is to be expected here as SL always been the kind of place to attract many deeply miserable, very unfortunate looking, brain cell challenged cunts who SJW crowd mostly consists of. Props to you though. Nice to see a sane person once in a while.

  33. #1 This looks cute. I think I’ll buy it. (Sarcasm. But seriously, MOST tattoos on sl are stolen. No one cares in the long run.)
    #11 I doubt you are anyones secret side dish. It’s far more likely you are posting nonsense to create drama.
    #14 actually a good idea.
    #19 they’ll always be caught but virtual secrets is the most pussy way to go about talking about it.
    #30 everyone has different experiences with people. If you make character judgements based off who someone is friends with, I’d argue the issue lies with you, not that person or their friend.
    #36 it’s true though. If you feel so pressed about someone that you have to make something up you’re likely jealous.
    #53 same as above but on a different note: sometimes it’s just fun to fight people you don’t like. It does take an extreme level of boredom though.

    • #30 How about you learn some actual history? Example: The people in Valiant where composed of people from Sylvania Square and UFW who were formally FWF before the split. And when Sylvania and Valiant had a complaint WITH THEIR OWN PARTNERSHIP, instead of taking it professionally in private before even making it public, they didn’t just make the event awkward, they made people feel bad, start doubting themselves, and feeling suicidal. Hell, the LATINO COMMUNITY felt bad. The people they wanted to defend. The people they literally used as a meatshield to push their propaganda. The complainer WHO LIED about being Latina. Think on that for a minute.

      How about House of Panes never dealing with their decoration problems with their partners after saying “We’re a neutral ground area and belong to no fed so we aren’t biased.” yet all their decoration focuses only AND SOLELY ONLY the people involving Valiant. “But X wrestler is in this fed too.” Tell me. What character that isn’t involved in Valiant isn’t promoted there? The only people promoted in there, are people involved in Valiant at least once. Not once have I see a person who has never been related to Valiant in one decoration and it shows. I don’t feel welcomed. It’s very biased on Valiant.You want to know their excuse? “We don’t have money.” Bitch, you’re a partner. Haggle a deal. Or see if they would be happy to be promoted in there with or without partnership. The “I don’t have money excuse” is dumb.

      What about Alyx literally having planned to talk to management when he was UFW’s favorite little boy and to end up convincing UFW management to “kick out” members because they will never be on par with the show’s “standards” to bring a crowd? Like that’s suspicious as fuck and he wasn’t even management himself. Then the moment he couldn’t have power any longer, he left after the drama his own group did and supported the outburst instead of helping his own team. If you ask me, Alyx only wants where he has more personal gain over being a team player.

      How about the fact Honor were warned of the red flags Alyx and Valiant has done about in the past and still decided to allow him in the group despite that they got people feeling suicidal after the events and despite that they have always complained about something?

      How about the fact Raven, the one who always spread some shitty rumor to make her club more popular end up poorly managing her own fed, and when Alyx was invited, her fed literally died along with Leo’s club? The instant Alyx touched it, it died.

      How about your precious Valiant wrestlers doing something no one in SLPW would allow? A wrestler holding two titles, be it in the same or in a different fed, was considered a no-no to do between communities. You can’t be in one fed and expect to have two titles. Neither would you have a belt in one fed, and then expect another fed to also give you their title. And it doesn’t matter if it is an alternative title or not. You have to be active with the title and it is why no matter where or why or what, people can’t have two titles. And last I recall, someone in VW had a title while still holding the UFW title for the past 1 or 2 months and no one says anything.

      NCSW having history of the owner (AKA Erza) using multiple accounts to make herself sound like a victim of getting hacked or controlled by a friend when in reality, it was all her own doing and even going to the point of blackmailing another person to get her way and spread false rumors so that people would listen to her instead of ignoring her demands. She’s also known to have really gone downhill with making more than 10 characters on her own fed just to give the rosters diversity, but yet, she either does nothing with them, or she makes a mess of drama with those alts that spreads to outside of the show to the point she even uses them to cover herself.

      Wildfire…. oh boy, where do I go with this one? Wildfire has been the cause of many splits in this community. Not only does wildfire has a lot of playing favorites, but Wildfire will also take any small joke and make a mountain out of a molehill until they get what they want and fire the person or have a whole community ignore another person’s fed until they get what they want or close down. And you can tell to this day they still play favorites because, while people are hoping not having to spend 12.5 K linden on a nitro pack for one move that has not updated yet, people in Valiant can easily get the old move they want for 200L. But everyone else has to go fuck themselves and go to the times 11.5% more expensive option. Because the move isn’t out on it’s own at Wildfire nor any other venues. And it’s sad. Everyone in the community was mad about playing favorites like this and the big “Banning every fed” because it really destroyed a community to the point the moment Lyra reopened, it was when they were low on funds. And only specific people were allowed to buy things. Oh did I mentioned they are 10 TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY WHILE FEELING 0 SHAME OF FORCING OTHER COMMUNITIES TO QUIT?!

      Please don’t tell me “If you make character judgements based off who someone is friends with, I’d argue the issue lies with you, not that person or their friend.” bullshit when everyone has been ignoring the problem. If you ignore the problem, you’re also part of the problem.

      GET BENT!

      • Sounds like you’re pretty invested in playing with dolls. You get wrestling isn’t real, right? You have a massive diatribe about all these other people… but you couldn’t be the problem at aaallll XD

      • “you are the company you keep” is a quote that rings true and i stand by that

      • Sure- if the company being kept is the most absolutely disgusting person ever. like yeah I’d probably judge and avoid anyone friends with hitler.

        But in most cases (especially on secondlife) it’s just a matter of blind, unfair bias centered entirely around childish drama.
        “I think this person is a narcissist (even though they probably aren’t) and I will judge anyone who is friends with them!”

        Talk about silly.

      • That sounds like a you problem. And as they say “Ignorance is bliss”.

      • there’s a lot to say about this post. maybe could start a discussion about something.
        Many people even new comers were feeling scammed and turned down after Team wildfire shut their doors over one person. While breaking the rules on Fed bashing. Many of which never gotten the good moves Birdy has made like the dodge pack or the Pheonix splash not even old school punches. practical things wrestlers usually use and the g-force and ref huds. so people had to switch to prime and trainees had a problem switching until months later. What Birdy almost did was kill SL wrestling but luckily theres moves at careers and MJ and others left TW to create even more moves. everything else is something to have a discussion on.

      • The reality of it all. Bless you for bringing light into all this.

        People have protected these groups for too long and ignored what they have honestly done. Now people who can’t have access to the cheaper options have to deal with the expensive 12.5K linden or who knows if more because said move hasn’t been redone or isn’t planned to be redone or whatever.

        The community won’t forget such a mistake and the owner just tries to hide it instead of admitting their flaw.

      • Not just this, but TW also has accepted and keeps a serial con-artist who has taken hundreds if not thousands of real world dollars from people in SL. The communities in 30 know this has happened but they still will associate with these people and then complain when getting called out on it.

      • Oh you probably talking about Miwa. Which is ironic because she never really was interested in furries. She just wanted money! 😀 Can you believe such a thing?

      • also for the money part. they dont have enough because they keep spending it on birdies ass.

    • I care that they’re stealing art from legitimate artists. Don’t say no one cares about this market.

  34. #16 – Audri is one of the sweetest and kindest girls I have met on SL, these constant attacks on her are pathetic and petty. The only thing you have proved from these ‘secrets’ is that you’re a nasty cow who enjoys bulling and harassing others.

    It’s time to reflect on what an awful person you are and re-evaluate why you feel the need to be such an insufferable cunt.

    • Funny how your sentence structure is Exactly like Audri.
      -pathetic and petty- (audri loves to rhyme her insults)
      -nasty cow- (a favored insult of audri’s)
      -insufferable cunt- (her go-to insult when bad mouthing in IM)

    • No, you aren’t. You did the same to me and you are the reason I will never roleplay with child avatars again. You spent so much time convincing me you were a victim I actually believed it.

  35. 1/2/3/4/5- * Rolling my eyes “too loud” * Who cares…

    • *slamming my fingers down on my keyboard as I type sitting at a backwards outstretched angle, breathing out of “one nostril” due to seasonal allergies (don’t worry I take Claritin ™️)* cool

  36. #42 This is the best reminder I have heard in a while “Its a game”

    Boring…Miss the real tea from way back. How many posts are needed in one week about the same thing?

  37. #13 The hate of a successful furry event is unreal. Now when there aren’t any furry events left everyone will cry “I wish we had an event for us”, because toxic people like you ruin things for the rest.

    • Oh don’t worry, furries will do that themselves. In fact, that’s usually what happens to furry sims.

      1. Furry sim exists
      2. Furries create drama on said sim
      3. Stories of drama travel far
      4. Furry sim closes due to the sheer amount of drama
      5. Non-furry sims start banning furries because they cause problems there too
      6. “WAAAH GUYS, US FURRIES ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, WHY CAN’T WE GO ANYWHERE”

      • “I SAID THE THING MOMMY! THE THING EVERYONE ELSE SAYS! I SAID FURRIES ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL DRAMA! XDDD”

        Because this website isn’t proof most of the drama is dumbfucks fresh from instagram.

      • Butthurt tailhole detected 😩

        Dunno what this has to do with instagram, but I don’t use it. (or anything Facebook-adjacent, fuck ’em.)

      • This is the third time this week you tried to deflect by going full retard like that  😆  Is that how you talked when you were in your furry phase? Cringe bro, no one actually talks like that except when they’re trying to act like stereotypes for irony.

      • There are SL DJ’s who can stream via ITunes… not kidding either.

      • I bet. If they can get Itunes to connect lol, it’s a library, not a player. No. The worst DJs ripped off Youtube coz it’s free and sounds like crap just like their sets! You cannot stream from Itunes.

      • When I ran a club, I literally had to sit an applicant down and tell them point blank streaming from ITunes and not being able to voice certain adverts and shoutouts for the club was not acceptable.

        Then they ran me through the ITunes process and I couldn’t believe they were actually doing it.

      • Well, at least he bought the music and not stolen it off Youtube which is illegal! And which “DJs in SL do all the time! I would like to see this process you talk of, but in reality, I think you are bullshitting.

      • iTunes allows you to put on third party music. A lot of it was still stolen.

      • There isn’t. This is why you lot in SL are so fucked up. You hear something or something about something then suddenly you are experts. There is something called AutoDJ Radio-Stations use to play one tune after the other. So get an education and…. why do you even care? Getting off on trashing a DJ? Sick MF

      • yes, your ass is an automixer “expert” – its crap – it doesnt exist – get it out of your mind and get a life other than sick SL!

  39. 22.
    Sounds like you live an extremely sheltered SecondLife. Did you discover VS just recently? Men get as much hate for those reasons, and NO they also do not get away with it. Ask permabanned users what gender they are in real life. Drop this woke feminist bullshit already!

  40. LOL  👀  looks like u finally pissed off the wrong AV Audri
     😸  LOLOLOLOLOL 😹 

  42. 6.

    Fk – buy my totally legit merch (sushi bootleg lookin ass) blame others for their fuckups, no apology for those they trampled on and stolen from, your lil poor me story on your profile is hilarious, oh right BUY MY TOTALLY LEGIT MERCH AND SELL YOUR SOUL TO WORK FOR ME SO I CAN SUE YOU FOR YOUR SONAS OWNERSHIP RIGHTS WITH MY TOTALLY LEGIT CONTRACTS

    It’s just a hobby guys calm down

    Gigabytes – staff gaslight patrons so bad that the owner has to apoligize for their shitty behavior

    Sylvania Square – is dead until June where they magically do a fundraiser and nothing else

    Chill – that’s pounce 2.0 from what I hear…avoid that shit like the plague.

    Anything else?

    • Lmao they removed that pick but their quotes are a good laugh

      https://i.gyazo.com/137f71a0224f747c1a44772b9b1300fe.png

      how about the DMCA badge on the website, anyone can get that
      https://i.gyazo.com/a79ef3ceadc42553cce68b090e6642c2.png
      https://i.gyazo.com/975f681c4b41288935217282a6c81653.png

      TLDR that little pity picks was basically “look I’m just one girl trying to run a club”…yea a club that leeches off others, steals concepts and designs, identifies as the lewd version of, and how much copyright drama do we need to mention here?

      uncredited artists, taking creators assets for monetary gain because they slapped a logo on it (look at that copyright guys, any assets made for FK regardless of artists TOS automatically makes it theirs), it’s a literal mess, and not the good kind that they try to advertise so much.

      Oh and yea Chill is just pounce 2.0, did a lil digging on that one
      https://i.gyazo.com/6e1ef97ebd26dd2c8dd864b9f3465b11.png

      • Hi, popping in on this one. It is chill 2.0 got perma banned from it, never stepped foot on sim till the day I found out. Not to mention, because leo didn’t have control of chill before when it was on another sim, now that it’s on his, he’s got pretty much all of it. Plus, leo, the person who was called out for pretty much being a pedo and zoophile… Ya, that’s where chill is. On his sim. And yes leo, selling/distributing products of under aged characters and of bestiality items…. It puts you on that registry. I won’t shut my mouth on that one. Refuse to. Honestly, that might explain why im perma banned again. Called his ass out for that gross shit.

      • You and how many others? That dumbass came on here trying to say they were dolls and thought that would solve everything 🤣

        Bruh you made zoophile products and ripped mesh from other games (ratchet and clank, sonic, fortnite, kung fu panda, anime girls who are probably not of age, ect)

        But I guess he wanted to die on the “fuck doll” hill

      • The irony Dillia. You got first band for age play from IYC because i was disgusted at you and yer family edging on that girl on the pole with child’s voice getting your rocks off and i didn’t want that crap in my places. you can hate and try Pin pedo shit on me ALL you like. but Your ban is Infinity in anything new added to SL and new sims owned your NAME goes on it by default. HWOWER in regards to pounce i Choose to freely close because i HATE this new generation of people. i wont defend it and agree with all of you.. other than i didn’t close because i was after popularity i got that shit 16 yrs ago. i closed because i didn’t Want anything to do with this disgusting new generation.. poeple like yourself DIllia. I seriously Doubt FZ posted this weeks to as it calls them out. because everybody knows 7 times they have closed and reopened and existing with 4k traffic or less is a meaningless Achievement. As for places just minding there own business trying to have some fun like Chill. it clearly shows just crap, jealously, hatred from Outside band lifeless cry babies like yourself Dillia or competition having a good ol mope because there all incapable of working together for the community’s sake anymore. Clearly your efforts and winging about me for being band all these years have got you Nowhere in life. and I’m only one of 20 venues that have you band. Oh Oh oh and you will Porlly be pissd to know how Happy i am these days  😂  😂  😂 

      • Dilila is a fucking weirdo. She sticks her nose so far into peoples business and then cries and throws tantrums when she gets told to shut the fuck up. Didn’t know about the pedo shit though, interesting. Banning her from our sim too.

      • riiiight you’d believe someone off this site with just one sentence

        Lemme show ya somethin

        https://i.gyazo.com/a6ed6866943f98ca3e7bd9bef9a7ef00.png
        https://i.gyazo.com/3eb2bf9dcb593dcb6cb05a8044007dc0.png
        https://i.imgur.com/366LM4A.jpg
        https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679398509861928970/818266567497351178/unknown.png
        https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679398509861928970/818263348318568508/unknown.png
        https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679398509861928970/818256798636834816/fuckleo.png

        Yea no he’s full of shit.

      • Tell me you believe everything on the internet without facts, without telling me you believe everything on the internet without facts.

      • Dilila ALWAYS has her nose in peoples business and brings up shit from years and years ago. You are correct she does throw tantrums and wonders why people don’t want to be bothered with her ass. It might be her disgusting personality, tacky hideous avatars, buttering up to designers, and wondering why she is banned or no one likes her. Dilila are you still on your tantrum about having to pay for flickr or are you “piggy” backing off other people still?

      • ._. never paid for flickr pro, never wanted it, no ones bought it for me. And being informed of things and sticking nose into it are completely different honey. <3 Getting told and forcing my way in are different. Not my fault people still tell me shit.  💁 
        And just because my avi’s aren’t your taste, doesn’t mean others don’t like them. <3 Besides, sweetie, honey, i don’t make my shit for others enjoyment, if I like em, that’s all that’s needed ^_^

      • Girl you LEGIT run and DM people and get information from them to run to this website to post about people. You should not be surprised when people spread your own

      • So you’re telling me it’s Just dil? You people just have an obsession

        The whole point of this post was calling out clubs and their shitty drama. Yet the moment Dilila decides to confirm my claim about chill being pounce 2.0…in comes Leo and Raven (in denial) trying to defend their lil egos

        Leo pulls the no u card with pedophilia and gets hit back because Dil is recovering from a pedo case with their poor excuse of a husband. And after that they throw the zoophile excuse when THEIR FUCKING STORE SOLD FERAL PRODUCTS

        So in comes you, the 3rd parties, trying to throw slander because someone is louder than the others. What’s the difference between all of you, ah right SHE’S NOT HIDING BEHIND FAKE ALIASES

        Plus she’s not the only girl I know that has a bunch of weight

        Azuza – continues to pull petty shit, includes others in their drama attacks regardless of wanting to be involved, and actively digs for drama just to get people banned or removed from whatever they work at. How many times have they ended up on here? 🤔

        Lookin real wide at that soko case because the logs contacting soko just for dirt on dil was hilarious.

        Claims dil was their abuser, yet weren’t all 3 of these girls friends at one point (Dil, suda, Azu) Don’t think I need to say petty bishes are petty bishes

        Suda – Do I even need to bring her up again? How many times were they proven to have stolen a character, claim it’s original, only to swap to the next dish and get more attention like it’s free advertisement (how many times has she deleted posts, callouts, ect?) And how many fucking times has she ended up using her lil goon squad to start more witch hunts? Well at least the vtuber community is smarter than that. Watch that ship sail xD

        Blazey – the everything is mine girl. Anything blue, grey, black, has a fucking set of 3 tongues…it’s INSTANTLY copied from them. The same bitch with a shadow the edgehog origin story, caused how much bullshit in IYC, and pretends to be innocent when drama comes around. She’s one of the people accusing muregon of stealing the glowbeans from suda…riiiiight?

        Zudrial – lil miss perfect, I made everything girl. literally COPYBOTS her damnn OUTFIT so you can’t inspect and figure out where she got X and Y. Lil miss I edited and stole textures just so I could feel included when the limited time offer expires years from now. Little miss offended when someone offers critique to help them improve. Seriously she’ll block and talk shit about you the minute you try.

        And of course me – If dil was really doing all this bad shit, why haven’t I made a post about her yet. Well that’s simple, BECAUSE SHE DOES IT ALL HERSELF.

        there ya go, 5 different girls, all shit. And yet you STILL continue to say dil is the only one with drama. I could go on “honey” but I’ll stop there. I have plenty of other examples 🤣

      • You forgot that skitz will dox your ass, don’t forget about their little relationship issues xD

      • Actually, azu was friends with suda, suda fucked her over then azu and I were friends. I actually defended her a few times on this site. But then because Azu started spreading rumors around about me, behind my back and started to try and turn friends against me. She got the boot. Not just by me, but by the friends she was telling lies to. And now? She’s back to being friends with suda. Can look at their twitter posts where they’re commenting on each others posts. <3
        Funny how that happened after I dropped suda, again. Seems to be a reoccuring pattern honestly. Where i’m friends with people, we split, they go BACK to the people they came to me from, and then drop each other because the same shit happens.

        That’s not even accounting for the fact that azu came back to me wanting me to defend her when she had those transphobic accusations against her. After I supposedly had abused her.

        Ya, I call people out, but with my own personal shit, there’s A LOT people don’t actually know because I haven’t shared it all. Shit with azu, shit with skitz, and hell, some with suda. Not because it’s damning me, but because I don’t think I need to share all of it.

      • The obsession seems to be you here, you write chapters in conversations that people stop wanting to likely read 30% of the way in. Ranting like someone that has no hobbies, go outside and breathe air.

      • It seems like you guys like to crawl out when I call out leo, what about furry kinks when I called them out? Or when I called out suda for the shit she did to me? Where were you guys then? But because it’s leo, that’s when you come crawling out trying to say this shit. And so it’s ok for you to post long winded posts to try and call me out, but when someone else does it in defense of me or even just someone else, it’s an obsession…. Kind of double standard there don’t ya think?

      • You failed to read who I was replying to and wanted to just make the comment about obsession about you. Normal for you.

      • Yet you also chose to reply regardless…okay than

        Nobody was talking about you. You just came here to talk smack about Dilila…again

      • You also seem to pop up on the weeks I am not traveling for work, my time off I read around for amusement. This is when you seem to always be here, creating more drama of yourself

      • Yet the moment leo or raven is mentioned here you are. I rest my case.

        Not even helping with the convo, you’re just deflecting on others instead of bringing anything valuable.

        Take your own advice and stfu damn.

      • Lmao why was Zudrial of all people brought up? Didn’t she die off in obscurity? Idk about the copybotting but I have heard that she links multiple objects together to save slots. I mean I do the same, guess that makes me a copybotter too?

      • Lmao I guess since we’re all supposedly be here to get behind Leo and Raven. Still don’t know who they are, but like typical. Bring up old ass news from years ago and won’t let it die. Typical typical.

      • If you need all the information. The old DSD limited edition skin which only came in a select amount of colors. https://gyazo.com/d890482e0e03a58a723675fd6243c10d https://gyazo.com/a587d68737dad8cc7620965ec3f07e2f
        The skin was made well over 6 years ago. The dragons themselves were released 9 years ago. How old is skitz’s account?
        https://gyazo.com/c1fc3d2a130b3066555802b01b055f38 Under 7. So how does she have a limited edition skin that’s not being resold and her account is 3 years under when they released the avatar.

        Then there’s the copybotting of skins to add her own little water mark to it like she owns it. She’s done it several times. https://gyazo.com/30486400b6d887f7ab139d23519f4fd2 Skins from rainworks, was ripped, slapped her little label on and edited it for the tsundere head.
        https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/RL-OMEGA-FEMALE-CROCOGATOR-WHITE/14751666
        https://gyazo.com/b9fc4871280889000d8fd63e1d587b71 This crocodile she had before, which is also ripped without the creators permission. She did ask the creator for a custom color, but the creator didn’t have the time so she went and ripped it anyways.
        https://gyazo.com/d626d3d3bfab5f54cd724d5abe6ed58c. Most of this can actually be found on red’s account on SL.

        Lets not forget the fact that Skitz also DOXXED this person. Not just breaking the rules in SL, but out right broke LAW. Several times actually.
        https://gyazo.com/04e5a7bb6bdde34f664056b8b622e9bd
        Not only in this post, sharing the face of red, but in another point, had made a live journal about her, and gave out her RL information. This is her RL name, her facebook information, the whole 9 yards. And why? Because apparently for 8 years this woman didn’t know red was a woman. 8 years and you couldn’t figure that out skitz?

        Lets not forget the fact she kept going around about her little fae dragon https://www.furaffinity.net/view/47380605/ to several groups in SL and discord, claiming it was copybotted. But wait… The skin uses the same texture as her crocodile that she ripped from the creator she asked a commission for. When in reality. https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Dragoness-Skin-Mod-Pack/12492131 That’s the skin that was used for her custom fae dragon, which I’ve seen the PSD’s for. It’s not copybotted/stolen. She’s tried to get red banned from furzona, the bare snake lounge, and several other locations. So that’s why skitz was mentioned.

      • Your obsession with Zudrial is tiresome. All old news from years ago. Can’t think of anything new so continues to bring up old news. A broken record. All the same shit everyone keeps spewing, but nothing new comes up.  😴 

      • So we’re all suppose to take advice from someone else that hides behind an alias as well and tells us to move on? Please. I don’t even know who Raven and Leo are. I just came to prove a point. Whenever furry issues are brought up guess who is here! Fuck Suda and her character idea stealing ass self. Haven’t an idea who Blazey is. As for Zudrial, this is pot calling the kettle black. So we can ALL forgive Dilila, Suda and Azusa because they all “apologized” “moved on” “sought help” “talked it out”. Yet, Zudrial is the only one out of all these bitches that has made improvements.

        So fuck you two cunts and do us all a favor crawl into a deep dark hole with no light and fucking decay. Take that as some advice.

      • Honestly, zudrial hasn’t shown much improvement. She’s doing the same thing that suda and azu are doing. Showing you a face that you’ll like her for, while in the background of it all, she’s starting shit. The only difference between me and every other drama whore, is the fact that I’m not hiding anything. I tried that before, it got me in more shit than I am now.

        I’m also not asking for peoples forgiveness. Or really asking anyone for anything, maybe to hear me out for once. But, have I actually asked anyone for anything?

      • Whenever anyone hears you out all that comes out of your mouth are lies, slander, and betrayal.

      • Please stop calling me “sweetie” and “honey” that already tells me how fake you are and I’m not a child. Of course we know your broke ass can’t pay for flickr pro, but that didn’t stop you from constantly complaining about it. No one tells you shit at all.

        Dilila, no one can stand you. Your so called friends don’t tell you that your avatars are ugly, because you can’t take criticism. You bring up drama from years ago to anyone that is willing to hear it just to stir the pot when everyone moved on. You cause drama every where you go. You’re a terrible human. The scum of the earth. Take a hard look in the mirror and question is it me? Knowing you, you’ll say nope everyone is delusional. We’re not delusional if we all say the same thing.

      • You’re telling me i’m a horrible human when i’ve never denied being such? Person who thinks I don’t already know as such, I’ve never stated i’m gods gift to people, i’ve never acted like it. If you wana sit here telling me im the scum of the earth and a horrible person, I’ll fucking AGREE WITH YOU. Because if anyone knows me, i’ve never said i’m a good person. I’ve treated people like shit, I’ve got too much of a fucking shit train to say I AM a good person, even before SL.

        If I ever was saying I was a good person and it was the opposite, exposed would have exposed me.

        Also, it’s not because i’m broke, it’s because i’d be looking at a higher charge of payment because i’m CANADIAN! Exchange rates darling. I’d have a bunch more things if everyone didn’t want to be in USD, or British pounds.

        Now im going to leave this as my last comment on this thread. Cuz frankly, all you guys can come up with is ” You’re a shit person and you’re nothing but drama. ” Tell me something I don’t already know about myself. The only one who won that prize is ” respect your customers” So, Unless someone brings something NEW that I don’t already know. Then You guys have this. I’m a shit person, never claimed to be anything but that. But I’ll also leave with this. Treat me how you wish to be treated, if it’s like shit, that’s on you. I’ll also support and follow those whom I wish, so long as their intentions are good. The same goes to everyone else, you’re not forced to follow me or support me. <3

      • Do you think you’re some sort of celebrity. The legitimate only reason people know of you is because you leech and spread gossip about people more well known than you. Diving into peoples personal business like it’s yours to spread.

        Log off and take care of your kid.

      • Someone mentioned a while back how she states people are stalking her and having other people report back where she was or some situation like this.

        She’s not mentally stable. She creates all this, tells others she’s being abused when in reality it’s from her to others.

      • This is more than extremely true about Dilila. This is why she is banned from places. She’s banned from purchasing at our store along plenty of her family member.

        Sakura was taken advantage of when she was faking a little girl voice and pretending to cry when people were upset in our hangout/mall. She admitted it was all fake and that they turned on her if she tried to be her normal self after a while.

        Dilila hangs out with the worst people, they go around trying to infiltrate shops, hangouts and clubs. Her drama is well known and everyone is sick of it.

        As for Leo’s store, they constantly bitch about it for their own attention. His store has had these items since 2013 I believe it was and it’s only been recent that they use it as a prop in their drama.

        She has told us before we banned her from our shop that she was being stalked by Leo. This was before I knew who he was, I never knew who he was until late 2019. She’s a horrendously awful personality that no one likes except the others who are equally as bad.

        This apology stuff I’ve heard before too, she has never changed. She only says she does, she can’t stop being who she truly is, a useless trash piece.

        As for Leo, conversations with her is like speaking to a dried up rotting fish on a riverbank in the hot sun. Useless and dead. She will never change. She will continue to rot in her little circles of other dead fish.

      • We gonna try and throw the blame using time now?

        2013, and in 2022 it FINALLY got removed….yea that’s quite a problem is you ask me.

        Aww bannign them from “our” store. I can think of a couple couples like that

        I’ve already called you out to be Raven, and honey you have 0 respect and continue to prove it. So stfu already

        But since we’re throwing shit I believe it was Shiloh starting this fad on the bird app once it hit VS…again.

        Not the first time Leo’s been up here, not the last. Same as Roxy, same as Rain, and same for you.

        Keep trying to turn guilt and deflect on others.

      • I’m trying to figure out if you’re saying I turned on sakura for her trying to be her normal self, or if other’s did, because I have literal logs with sakura and I where i’m encouraging her to be herself and stand up for herself as well. Unless you have logs of what she said to you? Cuz I feel like we’ve experienced two different sakura’s. So unless I got played.

        Honestly the other shit, partially true, I mean, I’ve openly admitted to being a fucking shit stain in past. How ever, now, I don’t entirely care if im a goody-two-shoes nice girl? It’s based on the ” treat me how you wish to be treated” And also if you’re a shitty person i’ll stop following you/supporting you. It’s on my twitter, and if you find me to be a shitty person, then don’t follow/support me? I have tried to make amends with people I have wronged in the past, at least those that I feel deserve it. But, you can’t make amends with everyone.

      • You also can’t make amends then go back to your garbage behavior, which you always did thus why you are banned in so many places.

        As for Sakura, when she wouldn’t do the kiddie voice that creeped out everyone all the time, she stated you all turned on her and treated her like second hand meat.

        This was in mid-2020 when she spoke to a whole group of us in a hangout location. You were quite cruel to her when she decided she no longer wanted to be that way. The kiddie voice, the crying when people said she needed to stop, when people were bothered by her behavior as a kiddie voice in an adult sim or club.

        You all decided she was no longer of use to you.

      • So, what you’re telling me is, that it was all on voice, you have no logs of it and the logs I have show a completely different story. https://gyazo.com/a9f7ea078b4f52fec86b004e258d3ba2

        But if people must know, I dropped her due to a drama wave which included nyx and aisu, her aunt and mother at the time. So that’s why I dropped her, I wasn’t getting involved with that, considering aisu and nyx were trying to start shit with me too at the time. So I didn’t drop her cuz she wanted to be normal, I dropped her cuz I didn’t wana be apart of that family drama bullshit.

      • Now if I recall correctly she had a bf named Tem. When she got too emotional Tem mentioned something about a split personality.

        I’m gonna be honest I hear that and immediately think of Kiras excuse, no ty that’s a red flag in my book.

      • Yes, she’s mentioned she has a split personality quite a few times, but it only ever fronted when she was upset. Never just randomly or anything. Which honestly, at the time made a LOT of people question whether or not it was true. I don’t know a lot of the condition, so I can’t say 100% yes or no.

      • You’ll talk smack about dil not hanging with sakura, but you’ll fully accept that Leo literally threw her out because of their voice. How two-faced 🤣

        Fact: If sakura was never on Leos sim to begin with, dil would’ve have never interacted with them in the first place or tried to defend them.

      • I actually got messaged by people about what was going on with sakura. you’re right, if sakura was never there that day, I wouldn’t have needed to defend her. But she was staff at IFC, which I was helping her with.

        But, people told me what happened, I wasn’t already there. I’m pretty sure sakura actually messaged me HERSELF about it. So =/

      • Raven never made amends. She continues to blame others for her mistakes. Her Twitter and picks are nothing but cringe.

      • What would she need to make amends for? What is in her picks that’s cringe or twitter? If you dislike her, why do you follow her twitter to begin with? Nothing else to do? Maybe you need a career.

      • How about all the people she labeled as “drama”, continuing to support a pedo and zoopholile?

        Hello?

      • Well kind of cringe to put me in her profile
        https://gyazo.com/e47492bdfdc3b4e9d731030efeb00a5e. But, riiiiiighhhhtttt, that’s not drama or obsession, or cringe cuz it’s raven.

        Now I remember, everythings my fault, all of it. Even if im not the one starting the shit, i’m the one automatically at fault, and automatically blamed.

      • Why not tell everyone the truth for once why you closed down? It’s was “DEER” you’re best friend you continue to forgive over an over again for no good or logical reason. So it must be for attention, popularity, boredom, greed an to manipulate an hurt others. You wouldn’t know the true meaning of community if you were a good person as you try to pass off to everyone. Also the notecard got sent around like wild fire so have fun with it you cheap low life prick. Notecard written by Leo The one an Only! “HERE IS YOUR TALK:

        TAKE YOUR TIME TO READ ALL OF IT.

        Im to busy as you know and it just pisses me off with your so called Lets talk in the morning every time u fuck me off. So I’ve done this one off note In hope you have a clear Prospective on how you treat your “friend” and nothing new will be said on the matter. 

        Last year yours and Phanas insulting got to the point i was Depressed and had enough i closed down the club in such result and now live a life of lies n slander by people i cared for since doing so because Cunts are to busy protecting there own selfish asses. 

        Since we started talking again and trying to “rebuild that trust” you tend to forget the likes of your own Actions are always floating at the back of my mind. such actions like these Public statements against Your “Friend”

        https://gyazo.com/72dd6bf19874abeb99126af2825bfe51&nbsp;
        https://gyazo.com/1745dd1b41f79d938a17b9914e9844e0&nbsp;
        https://gyazo.com/765ba49eff4a17cf98122c333d9d3017

        Its very easy to keep telling the victim to put it behind them and u don’t want to argue.. after all it wasn’t You suffering for it.

        OF RECENT. as usual me being such a forgivable person has helped you a bit getting set up with your new Club. and just being that friend you know. Ten out of a random act of kindness I add you to the system so yu get 25% of al our stock for life. You didn’t have to buy anything it was just a nice gesture.. But because “YOU” couldn’t handle such a light banter joke from Raven because you was So Bloody miserable that night. You threw it right back in my face in front of everyone publicly humiliating me once again. then adding You don’t want anything to do with that Garbage referencing the Store. 

        I AM SICK and Tired of seeing my simple Kindness been torn in front of my face for Absolutely nothing at all. Your actions have reset my trust back to zero again and have cost you 25% cash back on anything in the future. witch clearly dont mean much to you lately

        You have made Life Difficult for me so i am going to make it Difficult for You. I want to see you make a Public apology about your recent actions on Wednesday towards your friend and his business and while you do that you reflect on those things you have said above me in the images aboves. I want to see you say it on discord or in a group notice so the public know you’re meaningful because.. IF you don’t. I’ll know you meant all the bad things you have said towards me and ill never set foot in your place again or be anywhere publicly with you to avoid further hurt and Humiliation.

        in the meantime i know you are on collage essays today so no rush. take your time reading this. If you wish to hangout you know were i work. but if your incapable of delivery that sincere Public apology. I Probably wouldn’t bother contacting me again as I’ll know exactly were i stand with you

        Leo”

      • Ah it’s you again…

        So yea the only thing we can agree on is it’s not FZ making these. The only drama FZ really has is FK trying to copy them and it ain’t FZ constantly getting in trouble.

        There’s plenty of other clubs doing music festivals and I don’t see FZ going after them because that’s like their shtick. Meanwhile these other clubs trying to take big names for themselves eventually run into big drama and die off.

        Pounce – we’re number one
        Fk – you belong here, now lemme fuck ya ( yikes )
        Sylvania Square – “Welcoming” lgbtq+ community 🤣

        Furzona….yea they just exist kinda like the post says.

        It’s interesting how you claim your club closed because you were tired of the generation, yet pounce was notorious for so much shit. Drama, rigged raffles, infighting ect.

        And to claim you were “popular” 16 years ago, geez ego much.

        Pretty sure that was Sakura on the pole. They disappeared just as fast as they surfaced. Don’t know the deets but they were crazy to begin with.

        Deflects callouts with pedo card…yikes

      • yes that was her name on the pole forgot the name myself. Dilla even tries to say I’m in to Zoophilia while she being admin of a Horse sex beastly place.. unless shes band from there now to lol. Hell her humongous ass inflates with the amount of Shit she caries around. even the Poor horse has to pay a $5 uber fare to get from the left cheek to the right cheek now,

      • Which horse sex beastly place am I an admin of? Cuz i’ve only been an admin to lemme smash. Unless you mean IFC which was….your club….Soooo.

      • i founded the IYC and yiff bk in the day 14 sims wide Fantastic generation to work with. good times that is were my achievement lays. the big donations on raffles were contributed by many but i agree i could have controlled them better because that’s all people were coming around for with pounce but at the same time i nevver gave a shit about what other smaller clubs were moaning about when it came to my places. because that’s just winging about the competition n how much money it was getting etc. as i said wont defend pounce now days its closed.. nothing left to defend XD i hated it 😛 and regretted coming out of retirement to do it for people

      • >IYC
        >Fantastic

        These two words don’t go together. IYC was a trashfire, I’ve known/visited it since like, 2011. It was my go-to for trolling the fuck out of creeps and pedos back in the day, before I got a better hobby.

      • No, you banned me because I told one of your staff members not to fucking entrap me in shit XD It wasn’t for ageplay and I don’t have a family. As for sakura, you told her not to speak in the place because her voice was too high pitched and did sound like a child, even though she was verified to be an adult. And New generation? Sweetie, im not part of the new gen of people, maybe on SL, but RL wise, im a millennial.
        Not only that, jealous for being banned from a place you’re in? Honey, im not jealous. Honestly I avoid places you’re in for a good fucking reason. I don’t associate with pedo’s As for your comment lower down. Admin where? Only place i’ve been an admin at is Lemme smash, the place where YOU asked me to fuck you at. Which btw, I’m pretty sure there’s still a photo of that lurking around somewhere. Oh I do have it. https://gyazo.com/d642175af0bbbd027f6c185626c089be
        https://gyazo.com/1fda09b4f486a9fd40b5f0b793557b9a
        Also for a bit of you know, EXTRA spice.
        That much against me and ya still stuck your virtual dick in me.
        As for everything else, I couldn’t understand over half of it because of your inability to speak legible fucking English, which is fucking rich considering you’re from the UK.
        I don’t ageplay, I don’t do zoophilia, how ever, im also not the one who was SELLING products that were legitimately THAT. Sonic, knuckles, tails, sora, they’re all underaged CANON characters. You sold them. You were selling literal ferals you could fuck. Major difference between you and I. You purposely LOOKED For these items, turned them into sex items and sold them. So if im a pedo/ageplayer because I defended my friend from YOU, because you told her she’s not allowed to speak because of something she PHYSICALLY couldn’t control, then so be it. If that’s the hill I gotta die on, then i’ll fucking die on it. How ever, while I may be banned from chill, pounce, IYC, IFC, and maybe one or two other clubs. I know full fucking well, that their common denominator, is you.

        Now onto the other places. Long story short. I haven’t found a SINGLE club on SL, that doesn’t have any fucking drama whether upfront or background. This includes the list of the original VS. It’s why you don’t find me working in clubs anymore XD I get a wiff of the club drama and I just go back to texturing my shit.

      • I think the irony rests on you Leo. For someone to accuse Dil of being a pedo when she’s not only a mother, but a mother with a child who’s a victim to pedophilia from their ex husband is rich.

        Since you so happily threw the accusation I decided to ask them myself and hoo boi you are a lying sac of shit!

        https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srqkig

        legal documentation: I asked permission to show this
        https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009195927191437333/1009198930447323198/2ebfbc53fc34547ff926ca852e458e5d.png
        https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/bcdbc684ad6e9b51a9096c6453899bcc-png.jpg

        Also I find it hilarious that you make these accusations when you yourself have engaged in sexual acts with them. But than again you fuck anything, even staff. Another one of many club issues you had xD

        https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/1fda09b4f486a9fd40b5f0b793557b9a-png.jpg
        https://i.gyazo.com/d642175af0bbbd027f6c185626c089be.png

        Good work trying to ruin someone when your reputation is in the shitter already. Just pull the lever and sink already geez.

      • Now, if I let my daughter see her father after all of that…. KNOWING what he did to her. THEN you may call me a pedo. How ever… Don’t EVER fucking call me one after this. I do not stand for pedophilia, it’s why I will continue to call your ass out on it leo.You created and distributed furniture of under aged characters for money gain. Rot in a fucking ditch.

      • Why do pedo furries always try to pull the uno reverse card, as if that tactic makes any sense?

        Pounce owner: *makes bestiality & cub products*
        Pounce owner: NO U DA PEDO ACTUALLY

      • Been a while since I’ve been on here, yes it’s pretty hilarious that he still wants to claim it’s not against TOS

        it’s vile and disgusting, accusations got proven wrong and he still wants to die on that hill

        minute I saw this avatar I left, and he has the nerve to call dilila a pedo after all of this…what’s next the “I aged them up” card

        Get real
        https://i.imgur.com/nghj6Vw.png

      • The fuck off with your Witch hunt against me for Banning you for it 3 yrs bk and deal with it and move on.. as for all the other places your band from for god knows what reasons mostly fact your VILE personality and attitude. EVERYTIME you attack me I’m going to call you out.

      • Honey, I could give two shits anymore if I am banned. It just shows YOU haven’t gotten over the shit in the past and YOU continue to hold on if you purposely pre-emptively ban me. You and raven, sorry. RAVEN tried to gaslight me into saying everything that went on was ME doing it all and you guys had no hand period in it, at all. I.E I took all blame while you guys got off scot free. I may have been a vile person in the day, but what’s it say about you when you’re a hypocrite trying to call me a pedo because of me defending someone with a voice they were born with. While you sold actual pedo furniture. Go ahead, call me out, the issue you’ll have, is you have nothing on me. Because everyone already knows, everyone already has tried to call me out and you wana know where it goes? No-where. I wear my shit on my sleeve Leo. And while I have been a shit person in past, and sometimes even still. I’m only a shit person now, to calling out hypocritical, egotistical self-centered fuck wits like YOU. I defend my friends and I defend those I feel deserve to be defended, at the expense of myself. I have enough self worth to be up front when I have done wrong. And trust me, I know i’ve done a lot wrong. But, Unlike you. I’ve never promoted sex with kids, or ferals. I’ve never once said ” it’s not against TOS” Or tried to deny it in some manner.

        So go ahead, call me out, but remember…. I’m only going to call you out every time you decide to deny your shit, or try to poke a sleeping bear. So make sure your shit don’t stink before trying to call me out <3

      • All of that is one MASSSIVE lie. you know it but your like one of these Quannon folk. and all you’ve ever had against me was Me banning you for own Bullshit and attacking a product in one of our stores. sure some toys were beastly but its not TOS and the others were animie and game characters sure i can understand why some see those in bad taste. They was an older product and even i discontinued them now. BUt you and yer family just turned them in to something Extreme and Vile and call me something as Vile as podophile. Unlike Yourself…who is all about direct incidents with real people that got you band. and i only poop up when i hear you doing all this rubbish again It is you who really dose need to stop now.

      • Actually it’s not. Raven even wanted me to put a public apology on my profile for everyone to see, just so i could get unbanned so I could go hang out with my friends that were working at pounce at the time. I did that, I jumped through the hoops despite the fact it wasn’t all my fault. I left it up for a few days before I removed it. You can ask old staff, or even raven herself. If need be i’ll ask LL for the logs for our conversation just to prove that. But, whether it’s against TOS or not, you still looked up those products, you still had the idea of selling under aged characters and selling feral fuck toys for profit gain. And it’s not just me, and family…. Everyone says family, I have close friends that I care for. Does that mean everyone I care for is my family? And look at yourself Leo, saying I’m a pedo/ageplayer because I defended an ADULT that you were discriminating against….. Doesn’t that make you just as bad? Or is it because it’s you that it’s ok? Right? And poop up? This is why people can’t really take you seriously. A person who acts holier than thou and yet can’t fucking type proper English. Pop, not poop, banned not band. I’m not in a fucking rock band ok. Now then, for someone who really doesn’t give a shit about this ” New generation” You clearly care a lot about what I gotta say. Me, who’s nothing more than an insignificant little bitch, someone who’s just a small blip on a radar. And yet, on the people who hate me, you included, i’m the whole fucking radar.

        If you wana play the big game leo, im up for it, otherwise, I would suggest getting off SL all together. You seemed better when you weren’t here for that year and a half.

      • Ya, that’s what that was. I had asked raven to be unbanned so I can go hang out with some of my friends who were ( at the time) Staff of pounce. She tried to gaslight me and made me jump through her hoops to get unbanned, one of those hoops was taking full blame for all the drama between her, leo and I. When I didn’t start all of that shit between us. But, I sucked up my own pride and did it. I was pretty much told that I wasn’t going to get unbanned. Pretty much, just wanted someone to take blame for all the shit they were starting and I was dumb enough to do it for them. For the sake of seeing friends at their work. =/

      • But you got band form 3 of our places for so many different reasons its hard to tell what one was what

      • IFC because I told you that I was still getting note cards and people coming to me, despite not being staff anymore and you threw a fit. IYC because I defended someone for you discriminating against them just based on their voice and pounce because I wasn’t going to take your two faced bullshit. You allowed me a job, and before giving it asked if i was going to be an issue for suda. I had her blocked and de-rendered at the time and I made a rather good decision to NOT accept the job right away, because the next day I found out she was a fucking MANAGER. You have two people in fucking drama and you give one of them a managers position. THEN when I went over to furzona back when it first came back around, someone told you I vented about that little two faced bullshit and you banned me, even though I wasn’t on sim, or breaking rules since again, wasn’t on sim venting about it, wasn’t in the discord doing it. I was on another sim in another club. So THAT’S why I was banned from your places. You didn’t like the fact I didn’t kiss your ass at IFC and you guys PURPOSELY looked for a reason to ban me at IYC and then tried to make up a lie about me talking to one of the DJ’s at IYC even though I never spoke to any of the staff there outside of YOU, Kitty, and shiloh. Raven on the odd hand, but i tried to avoid speaking to her. Hell, you even unbanned me and everyone else after you got back from your vacay at pounce. If I was THAT bad, you’d have kept me banned, but decided to give people another shot, from what you said. Since I did ask on why I was unbanned. And yet, the ONLY THING to change between that ban and chill, was me calling your ass out for selling pedophile and zoophile furniture. I rest my fucking case.

      • Its sadly more common for Victims of Abuse to to engage in such acts in there adulthood through traumatic experience’s so it makes sense

      • Didn’t you tell like a whole community of people. That you were raped by the guy. That is how you got pregnant in the first place? So you already knew he was a predator and you still let her be around him. -_- just saying is all, from what I have seen by your witch hunt bandwagon tweets and constant “hate train” on people. You are probably someone who majority of communities should avoid.

      • If you don’t know CANADIAN LAW, yes he assaulted ME, but he didn’t have charges for going against kids. So they pretty much forced me to make her see him under the pretense of supervised access. I.E The courts/law/government would have taken her FROM MY CUSTODY, if I refused and gave him full custody. He had supervised access by HIS family, who then didn’t supervise him. It wasn’t until the police did more digging and such on him from other reports, that he finally was caught and my daughter was one of the ones found on his phone. So this guy could (and has) Assaulted multiple ADULT women, and by canadian law, can still be around kids. Because none of them were against a child. CPS would take my kid from ME and give them to him. I would have rather risked him having supervised visits, over him getting full custody where he would have been able to more proprely groom her. It sounds horrible when it’s written out, but I would have rather of protected her in this manner of the supervised access, rather than fight in a manner that would have her removed from my custody and been pretty much fully handed over to a pedophile who would have been able to groom her in FAR worse than the one to two attempts he had.

        How ever, I also never forced her to go on days she didn’t want to go. If she didn’t want to go see him, i made sure to call him and have her verbally say it, whether to me or to him and he couldn’t then force her to go.

        I hate my justice system because it wasn’t there for me, and at the start, wasn’t there for my daughter. It’s part of why I would wana move to america. Cuz Here, I can’t entrap pedo’s or rapists. But I can in america. I say ” this guys a pedo” Police will more than likely look into it.

      • well that is Shocking..”doesn’t care after 3 yrs of witch hunt from dillia since banning her” and i did almost Fuck her to before the ban ya.. whats that bit proving XD.. BUTTT its Shocking because that WASNT an actitation and there is aloft o whiteness in IYC that night

      • Hang on a moment.. are you trying to claim the person in that report is ME? of her podophile hubby? because the world knows I’m British not American for a start but i will correct that with administration if you believe that’s me

      • not an Actitation there was plenty of whiteness in IYC on the night

      • The Day We can rid of pedo’s like LEO and DEER will be the day that all pedophillia will end.

      • No you daft fucking half wit. We’re shutting you down for you trying to claim im a pedo of some degree. Why would I age play or be with any form of fucking pedophilia when my daughter is a fucking victim of it? When I’ve clearly put her father in prison for the assault on my daughter. Like, are you THAT fucking retarded? We all know you’re a british man who can barely speak legible english. THE REST OF US. Aren’t that dumb. But if there is someone who’s as dumb as you are, they can read this comment <3

      • Claims someone is a pedo, turns out they have VALID proof of being a mother who’s daughter is a victim of pedophilia

        When the pedo card fails – pull out the zoo card because THAT WORKS WHEN YOU ACTIVELY SOLD ZOOSHIT

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        Only reason it got taken down was because people started posting again and raven came to defend your lumpy ass.

        Next time ya better point those finger guns at the mirror because If you’re SO convinced that dil was a pedo, why the fuck did ya bang her or even interact with her?

        aaand now the “i’m X and Y, this shit don’t apply to me” card

        Bruh you serious, race/ethnicity has nothing to do with this. In fact it’s an insult to even compare you to people who can properly function outside of a virtual game. We already know you’re British, your microphone speaks volumes. You can’t even speak or even spell properly let alone keep up with all the bullshit lies, slander, and accusations you’ve been spitting for literal years!

        The moment Dilila gets mentioned or someone posts about your lil clubs you go batshit trying to defend your lil e-peen and blame others claiming you have tons of success

        You lost every club you had, or ran away when it got dramatic, you don’t even take charge as the owner and let Raven run the place to the ground. How’s that working for ya? Shes’ banned from chill, but not from all your vivid and pounce shit after causing so much problems for you, your staff, ect

        And speaking of drama…if Suda and Dilila are bad news, letting either of them on staff was already a bad call. But you not only let them in, you fucking pulled the pettiest card in the book by placing one above the other. You made your own drama because you didn’t think, didn’t matter which one, the both would start a fight.

        Here’s a little tip, how about place them BOTH in the same position, let their actions show who deserves the position, instead you created infighting on day one.

        At least dil has the balls to own up to her shit. Suda is just poor me I’m being bullied…while taking aspects from others, claiming them as her “original” idea, getting upset about said people, kicking them out, and pissing off majorities of the communities she’s in.

        And if I’m not mistaken you and your little goon squad did ban them both because for a time it was only suda that was really active in pounce afking and tping her lil posse again and again.

        So if they were both bad, and you allowed one back in…again YOU’RE CREATING YOUR OWN DRAMA, and it’s pretty two faced because this whole thing could’ve flipped either way regardless of who was banned.

        You had a fucking manager named Nyx (related to sakura btw) that was leeching on your raffles and contests using their partners account and multiple people reported it in nearby how many times?

        Raven was caught red handed banning others for so called “drama” when it was just petty bs after they left during the whole eternity split (oh right that’s back now…wasn’t dangerkitty your pet a long time ago…yikes)

        I think i’m done talking shit, have fun claiming it’s all lies

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      • Hold on for a second here. Down below Dilila said she isn’t a pedophile, but above in that snippet of instant message she and leo fucked. SO if she knew Leo was a pedophile why fuck him or was this before or after?

      • This was BEFORE I knew about the pedo shit. This was back before IFC made it’s come back.
        I honestly didn’t know about the pedo or zoophile shit until after IYC. Which is where I actually started to actively talk shit about that. More so his avi’s of a pawpatrol pup he ran around on at IFC, Pounce IYC and so on and so forth.

      • >paw patrol pup avatar

        I hate furries I hate furries I hate furries

      • It’s actually not XD there’s no feral fuck locations on it. Yea, ferals show up, but they’re gone pretty quick when no one picks them up or they realize that there’s no sex furniture for them. Not to mention, yes, im on the staff list. But it’s so I can rez pose stands for my photography. That way i’m not getting bumped around by the randoms who decide to be dick heads. I’ve taken a few of my photo’s there. But I have no ability to ban someone or even really enforce rules on the sim.

      • Yes, there’s several bestiality sims that no one seems to complain about. They are mainly human sims and many don’t allow furries. Dilila and these others are like bible thumpers, they cherry pick situations that suit their current drama needs.

      • Can’t complain if we’re not actively looking for them? The moment we look for them, there’ll be people, like you. Asking” And why do you know it’s a feral sim?” It’s a double edged sword, and people, like myself. Are opting to NOT touch that with a 10 foot pole. But, go ahead, call it cherry picking.

      • “Your Pawsome”

        Not only are furry clubs always the shittiest, most unimaginitive places in terms of themes & location name, apparently they don’t even check their most basic grammar.

      • For a busy SL designer you sure do have a lot of time to sit on this site, furiously refresh, and respond to every single comment here regarding furry SL…  😣 

      • I just got done with a couple events and I’m taking a break before the next one, can’t a girl have some me time?! Smh, let me enjoy thiiiiings.

  43. 38.
    LMAO you do realize some of us make intentionally ugly and distorted alts to fool around and take a piss at people who take SL waaaaaayyyyyy too seriously? Who told you we were aiming for beauty? We are walking parodies. We are not trying to be attractive or fuck with you, in fact, we want to elicit shock and disgust! I am a blogger with a huge following in the so-called “conventionally beautiful” (LOL WHUT) crowd but also have an alt who is a slutty morbidly obese version of a Korean celebrity that I hop on to infuriate the uwu koreaboos on SL who slut/fat shame and fashion police about appropriation and all that BS when they themselves are probably unhealthy and tackily dressed in RL. My virtual life has never been so fun and satisfying!

    • WoW HoW DaRe YoU NoT LiVe Up To My StAnDaRdS (good gods typing in sarcastic is tedious) XD

    • Writing a thesis explaining how you troll and that your life is so fun because of it just bc someone took the alleged bait is not how trolling works, thus I conclude you’re just mad asf and coping.

      • “you’re just mad asf and coping.”

        So please write a longer thesis to educate us trolls on the right way to troll. Your expert conclusion shows you are just as mad asf and coping LOL

      • Stop being the fun police SL ain’t that deep and anything I spend online helps my credit score when I pay it off at the end of the month. Little bit of healthy capitalism for all the work I do in RL.

    • Troll? If you put THAT much effort into an avatar just for the lulz, the only person you’re trolling is yourself. Nobody spends $40+ on a head, body and mods just to troll, primarily because they know they risk getting banned. There’s a reason why the avatars of trolls and griefers look like they equipped the entire Freebie Galaxy sim.

      But hey, go off I guess.

      • I paid a bit of money for my troll alt to have some funny huds you can’t get anymore. You have no idea how much fun it is to not give a damn and dress up something as cringe as possible and watch everyone in a club slowly move away. Bonus points if you have crosshairs on.

        That was the fun part of an alt back when I played.

      • Nobody spends $40+ on a head, body and mods just to troll, primarily because they know they risk getting banned.

        >> Sorry to butt in but some of us can actually afford that. Not everyone who is on Secondlife is a broke NEET like you.

  45. #53- Wait, 26-30 isn’t young anymore? Since when, and in what world?

    Maybe some of the people who use millenial are actually talking about millenials, regardless of your arbitrary determination that they are no longer young. What a weird thing to get hung up on  😆 

    • If 30 was young 30 yr old women wouldn’t need makeup to imitate looking young ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      • WTF?! if you think 30 years old women are old you must be really young, in this case don’t worry, you’ll reach 30 in a blink of an eye ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or maybe you are too old and just jealous of younger women? who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ let’s add a third option, you never leave your small room and have no idea how a 30 years old women really looks like, you just pretend to know because you live on social media 24h, yeah ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      • Yes because that’s 100% why every 30 year old woman wears makeup. Congrats champ, you figured it out.

  46. #16 i saw that kid at AO, checked her panel and was directed to her adoption website (that’s a red flag) it was so cringy! she was trying too hard. so we asked around in the kid community (my wife thought she was cute) about her and all we heard back was how many families she had destroyed. we heard about all the blogger kids she had bullied. The only semi-positive thing i heard was that because we are a lesbian couple, she would accept us more than a male/female couple.

    • I don’t know if that last bit is as endearing as you’re making it sound. She won’t cause as much drama / mess with your life as much just because you two are a lesbian couple? That’s still really messed up. People like whomever this kid is, is the reason I’ve stopped adopting all together. I’ve been alright with the animesh Zooby so far. There’s too much drama stirring and sus people in the kid AV community, let alone the family rp community.

  47. #14 I’d rather have realistic underarm hair before an Adam’s apple
    #22 unless you’re a white guy pretending to be a black man, you have no basis for assuming they get no hate. And they literally are joked about constantly. But you CAN be anything you want in SL, you just aren’t free from criticism. That’s true in any world you live in, except maybe one you make in your own mind. Sucks, but it’s the way people are. Just learn to ignore it
    #25 Stop slut shaming
    #32 Yes!!
    #42 Yes!!
    #48 Point 2 is true, Jesus was a Middle Eastern Jew… the rest is crap

    • I may have seen some underarm hair a few times inworld but realistic pubes… They always look crisp and burnt.

      • Depends on who the creator is, some people can draw / make hair well and some people make it look crispy in a bad way lol. Underarm hair would be difficult to make as an add on, even as a feature of skin just because of where it’s at on the avatar.

        Same goes with the Adam’s apple, it would be a difficult mod to make, and even then I can imagine if it was made as well as it could be, there would be some issues. Thankfully there are a few good places that sell BOM appliers or skin add ons for an Adam’s apple shadowing that gives the illusion of one.

        Who knows though, maybe in a few years down the line these things could be revolutionary.

  48. #1-5 I’m glad people are holding “tattoo” stores accountable for stealing artwork, it’s about time. We need to start doing this for every tattoo store that blatantly steals like this. I’d also like to press that we should also be shaming stores that use designs that are fully ripped from places and slapped onto shirts / tops or other articles of clothing. Regardless, progress is progress, and it’s time to start calling out these “tattoo” stores that just grab a picture from Pinterest, turn jr into line art, grayscale it, and sell the “tattoo” at different opacities for 300L a pop.

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  49. #21 & 39 – your just making River more popular…. i had never been to one of his sets. BUT after you posted last week (and the ensuing comment shit storm) i went to a set…. GREAT fucking DJ. THEN i went to the (alleged) posters club… it was crap, crap, crap….

    • He is probably the only real DJ in SL and knows what he is doing. No auto shit can do what he does. Now we know the reason why the sl crazies trash him. Losers!

  51. The issue with assigning stores/items to bloggers, is unreasonable for many reasons. The real problem is the lack of separation in letting them choose favorites, rather then expecting them to handle many stores of different ranges. If you need examples of why it’s unreasonable to assign, I’ll start with the obvious one. Firstly, bodies vary between stores and bloggers EXCESSIVELY. Not everyone uses or has every single body or additional mod for those bodies, so without knowing someone’s entire section and then comparing to stores, it can’t be done. Then of course, the issues between some bloggers and designers, while you can blog for an event, you do NOT have to like or support every single store in the events. You also shouldn’t have to violate your privacy by disclosing your personal issues, just to blog. Now if you communicated things like, you can blog your favorites, but you are expected to also blog other stores. That could help. If events also offered a way for bloggers to leave anonymous notes, I’m sure they would explain, a lot of them refuse to blog stores, that are known for theft, copyright, and their items quality is just not … “great.” Which is a huge thing. Events don’t background check their designers, or bloggers. This is going to happen. I run both a store and a blog. I am not speaking for one side or the other. I’ve been an event blog manager too. It’s not simple to keep all stores blogged, but keeping up with bloggers and their amount of blogs, and the consistencies between their store choices, DOES make a difference. If you confront them and explain, that hey, i noticed you blog these 2 stores, but never mess with others, you need to start blogging for more stores to help spread awareness. I did that as a manager, but I quit due to my time being spread thin. Sorry I rambled, but I get all the sides on this matter. It’s a lot of communication issues. Managers extremely need to be on top of keeping up with the bloggers, and ensuring they do their jobs, they need so badly to be getting rid of the one’s who don’t. They also need to find out why the bloggers avoid stores when blogging. That’s the only way for people to keep up with the issues. At least that’s my opinion!

    • Why would someone apply to blog for an event if they don’t even own the bodies to blog half of the items?

      • you realize that all events cover multiple bodies? not just one body… lmao there’s a dozen or so adult bodies, and same for the kids community… legacy, reborn, maitreya, belleza, kupra, reborn, are a few of the ladies, idk what the guy bodies are, but i know there’s at least 6 of those… for kids its, toddleedoo, bebe, moppet, totsipop, zoobie, nd/md, tweenster, tweeneedoo, youth, avil, rebirth, and so on and so forth…. event’s generally cover many bodies, not just a single one. nice try being cranky though xD!

  52. # 11 Why you letting Quasimodo gaslight you into being her secret? Don’t be another one of her little pups. Leave that situation and spill the tea on your way out.

  53. 12&20.Can’t stand Rylie!! One of the most awful greedy, hungry, fake, backstabbing SL ppl. She fucks men, borrows money then bad mouths them. She borrows money from friends then backstabs. She cuts ties with everyone she owes!!!

  54. I bet the one who posted #61 last week posted this weeks #53.

    You sound like you’re big mad about something, this is the second “someecard” you posted in 2 weeks.

    Want some cheese with that whine?

    • Admittedly I got intrigued and am looking forward to what passive-aggressive lil miss boo hoo pick-me-sha projection they will write on that cringy ecard next week. Remind me to buy more cheese!

  55. 14- this is a really weird and specific thing to want. Nobody would notice them.

    28- I don’t know what I’m looking at.

    38- a man made this ava

    44- okay? yes? that is how money works?

    51- If your product isn’t being blogged, it’s probably ugly or too niche. If you’re making things only to see your shit get blogged, you’re an idiot, and I’m sorry you need so much attention from others to feel valid.

    • 38.
      Could also be a bored woman wanting to piss off prudes and pull pranks on creepy jerks in sex sims.

  56. Please remind me its the 21st century correct? Why are we still blaming women for not staying with partners that no longer make them happy and trying with someone else? Do you realize that is not going to break just because you are geting a different dick? Seriously STOP IT life is too short to be stuck with people we no longer enjoy. Take a freaking shower and it is like new again! Instead of slut shaming others for doing what makes them happy, why don’t you try to be happy and leave everyone’s business where it belongs…  😡  😡  😡 

    As for body shaming FUCKING STOP IT! SL is not RL nor is suppose to be, you do not like it GOOD just derender it as simple as that! FYI Nobody in SL makes an avatar to please others, our own avatars are meant to please us and just us, if it pleases someone else in the process good but IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.  😡  😡  😡 

    • Why are we still blaming women for not staying with partners that no longer make them happy and trying with someone else?

      Because it’s fun

      • I would categorize it as stupid and distasteful. An outdated prejudice that have been used to control women for centuries. If that is the definition of fun to you I am sorry for those around you.  😑 

      • It’s outdated because you say so? That’s not how this works. So you’re advocating for women moving from honeymoon period to honeymoon period chasing that instant gratification and setting themselves up for later regrets? They’re already doing that, in case you missed it, and the number of women taking anti depressants and engaging in substance abuse has like quadrupled, weird way of celebrating their new found freedom and happiness.

        No one says anyone should remain in a shit relationship, but as the saying goes: Once is an accident, twice is a pattern, thrice is a lifestyle. If you go through 20 relationships per year and somehow always end up “unhappy” the problem is most likely you.

      • LOL And you think that’s why women is depressed and abusing subtances?? Man you are a JOKE!

        Happiness is not supposed to be a permanent state LOL today you are happy tomorrow you are unhappy and that’s fine. When you start having more unhappy than happy times that’s when you should move on. If that means dating 20 men in a year so be it, as long they enjoy it there is no reason for regrets. Women regret many things in life but when it comes to men the thing they regret the most is taking too long to walk away. If you see this as an issue then for sure the problem is in you!

        Having regrets doesn’t have to be a bad thing, it means we have learned with our mistakes and means we most likely have a conscience.  :wpds_wink: 

      • You know correlation doesn’t equal causality, right? There are a myriad of reasons why more women would be on drugs of any type now, and saying it’s because they’re no longer trapped in miserable marriages with men whose only move is 30s of missionary with zero foreplay, stuck in the house playing homemaker while their brains atrophy, unable to leave because of the stigma of divorce and limited career options, is fucking stupid.

        You should read some things about how women really felt about those lives (if you actually care; I suspect you don’t, and this is just more of your quasi-redpill nonsense)- I suggest Nancy Friday, to start. Those women weren’t happy. They pretended to be happy because they didn’t want to be judged, because presenting the “perfect family” front was pretty much the only personal satisfaction in their lives. And just because they didn’t all get drugs for the depression doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. They just powered through.

        Do you know how the vibrator was invented, by the way? It was originally a doctor’s tool, used when women would come to see them with “hysteria” (deep abiding misery with their lives they could no longer ignore) and used to cause “paroxysm” for relief- that’s an orgasm. This was because their husbands never had any care for their satisfaction and they were raised to believe taking care of it themselves was sinful. Ahh, the good ole days, right?

        Whether someone goes through 2 relationships a year or 20, all that really matters is free choice. That will always be better than any alternative.

      • Every Christian until not too long ago was raised thinking masturbation is sinful, how is that a women issue? Do you know grandmothers used to jerk their grandsons of when they refused to fall asleep? Again, not a woman issue, fucked up shit happened to everyone during human history.
        So women were unhappy in their marriages because they didn’t get the full SL poseball olympic program in the bedroom? And you’re telling me going through the meatgrinder that is corporations, sitting in a cubicle for 40 years, ending up with 15 cats, 2 dogs and a whole lot of wine is more personally satisfying than giving birth and raising a family? That’s what feminists tricked them into believing.

      • WOW! That is what you get from what Be Less Ignorant said? Either your brain is stuck on the last century or you were feed up so many bs growing up that you believe that everyone should follow a certain standard, otherwise they will be depressed and unhappy. Women were a kind of slaves of the society exactly because of people who thinks alike you and now they got their FREEDOM! They now can think and take decisions for themselves without being the subject of obedience to their fathers or husbands. Do they make mistakes? Hell yeah but so does everyone else, and life is a learning process if you are too afraid of making mistakes you never learn! As long they are not putting anyone at harm they can do whatever makes them happy, that includes dating whoever they want. Plus not every person dreams of getting married and have kids. Some of us takes satisfaction in other things and just because that doesn’t fit a certain standard it does not mean it is wrong!

        Now about religion and only just so you know that we are no longer stuck in the past centuries, the church used to turture and burn people alive. How Christian right? But nowadays the church works to serve the people instead of punishing them, do they keep believing we all should follow a certain standard? Unfortunately yes, but nowadays we are also FREE to follow whatever religion we believe in or even none.

        So basically it is all about FREEDOM and every person should be FREE to live their lives the way they find more suitable for themselves without being judge for it. Isn’t that amazing?  😉 

      • Yes, choice is the point. Unlike the type of “feminists” who try to control other women from the other point of view, I have zero problem with women who want to be June Cleaver; if the housewife life makes you happy, live it up. But no one should be forced into that, or any other preconceived notion of what their gender “should” do, whether every decision they make is a great one or not. If we’re not free to make mistakes, we’re not free at all.

        If a woman wants to work herself to death to support her houseful of cats, more power to her in that too; cats are great company. If she wants to bounce around fucking as many people as she can, as long as she’s being honest, ethical, and as safe as possible to avoid spreading disease I support that too. I feel the same way about men- no need to fall into that head of household/breadwinner role, no need to live up to any outdated notions of what makes a “man”. Wear pink, learn to crochet, cry when you get the urge- none of those things diminish your masculinity in the slightest. Do whatever makes you happy as long as you’re not hurting anyone else; honest, ethical behavior is all anyone should expect, regardless of gender.

      • Exactly! EVERYONE have the freedom to choose! And that is how it should be no matter which gender you are.

        To be honest the best part of a relationship is the beginning lol when we are still finding each other, that time when you can even find cute their flaws and silliness. You can never tell you really love someone before that phase is over. Most relationships end after that period because what they felt was passion not love, and nowadays no one will be publicly shamed because they didnt stay with the 1st man they ever met or the 2nd or the 20th LOL who the fuck counts? Only those that have nothing better to do in life will count how many people 1 has slept with, and JUST because there is nothing else interesting going on in their own miserable lives.

        If you ask me with how many people i have had sex with in my life i would have to think about it and even so i would probably not be able to give you an exact number not because their is too many (there is no such thing as too many), but because some of them weren’t that memerable or just because i couldn’t care less about those kind of numbers afterall not everything in life has to be quantitative.  😂 

      • I can’t answer that question because no one told me I was supposed to be keeping score, so I never bothered. Definitely some people would be forgotten due to being unmemorable if I did try to make a list, though lol

      • It’s funny to me that anyone would think a woman ends up a “cat lady” through anything but choice, because in rl no matter what she looks like, there’s always gonna be men around desperate enough to go for it; cats or no cats. Granted, she might have to drop her standards to a realistic level for her own appeal, and some women won’t do that, but the option is still there- women are only lonely by choice in the real world. That’s one of the ways SL is different from reality. The ratio of women to men isn’t so skewed in favor of men, resulting in these increasingly outlandish and desperate bids for attention from the female side.

        It’s been an interesting shift to watch, over the years. Actually just yesterday I read a profile where the girl basically declared herself every possible trendy label all on her first tab- from BABYGIRL to MOMMY and everything associated and in between. “Your one stop shop for any possible kink you might have please please please please someone pay attention to me I’ll be or do anything it takes”  😂  Just when I thought the thirst couldn’t surprise me anymore, she proved me wrong.

        Oh, and outside royalty, incest was never something we were pressured to do as part of their expected gender role, so thanks for bringing up that nauseating bit of irrelevant info; any grandmother touching her grandson that way was sick, not trying to fit in and avoid judgment.

  57. #42 Thank you.
    #48 Yes, basically I do. I don’t know about George Takei tho.

  58. #51 you may right in general but one point…Blogpacks are not “for giving bloggers free stuff” they are for designers to get free advertisment…you know what RL companies spend on marketing? Just shut up and be thankful that there are that many bloggers in SL that will promote your stuff for just for a blogger pack worth 2 dollars that they will probably never even wear again after the post.

    • i was a blogger for years, i NEVER wore the stuff except for the blog photo. Bloggers don’t blog to get free stuff, we blog so we have an excuse to create a cute photo.

    • Except rarely do events GUARANTEE all creators free advertisment. But several require a mandatory “blogpack” even though there’s a good chance you won’t have your items advertised, because the blogger thot aesthetic is narrow and usually only showcases the same generic DDLG crap.

      also “two dollars” lol. One event wanted me to put my FATPACKS in the blogger pack. Plural fatpacks. And these fatpacks were 2-5k L$ each ($10-$20 roughly) so they basically wanted us to give out up to 10k L$ worth of free crap to blogger leeches who aren’t even guaranteed to feature us. No thanks.

      • It was 10k cause YOU said so. Your item is virtual…you have no further production costs after creating it so please sit down and stop whining. It’s still only worth 2 dollars. If bloggers haven’t featured you…NONE of the bloggers that certain event had well maybe it’s time to take a looong and self reflecting look at the obviously overpriced crap that you are creating.

      • If you don’t understand the value of a person’s time, I’m not sure anyone could explain how stupid this comment is to you. You know it’s the only thing you can’t get back, right? How many hours of a person’s irreplaceable life does it take for their work to be worth more than “2 dollars” to you?

      • THANK YOU.
        I mean shit, I’m no prodigy, but I at least try to go all out with my work. I put a great deal of care and optimization into each step, both making sure the mesh is weighted properly and not a laggy, high poly mess – but also doing textures by hand. Not to sound snobbish; but some creators just shit out an unoptimized Marvelous Designer mesh, or a downloaded prefab, throw it in substance painter, apply 1 preset material, and call it a day.

        Half-decent work takes time, a good project will usually take me at least a few weeks to fully finish, if I work on it and nothing else.

        Telling me my work “isn’t worth that much” and it’s no big deal for me to give it out for free to tons of strangers is a wild take.

      • I don’t see anyone telling you your work isn’t worth that much. I think your work is worth an incredible amount. It takes a lot of care to be a creator and while I 100% agree that bloggers for events SHOULD be required to blog items (either a set of items assigned to them or otherwise) and that it makes no sense for there to be a blogger pack with NO guarantee of getting your shit blogged, just like someone above said, the amount of money companies have to throw away on advertising in actual real life is INSANELY more than what it is to give out fatpacks on SL including just flat out giving out products. The idea to choose certain colours and styles of your items instead is (while looking like you have 2 colours max sadly) the perfect idea for someone with your thinking much like a model that has a gig modeling a line of clothing and gets to take it home. That happens. Every. Single. Day. This isn’t anything new in either life and the fact anyone is acting like it is honestly beyond me.

        Your time and effort isn’t more valuable than a blogger’s time and effort. Granted these boomer 250x firestorm snapshots tossed up onto their flickr “blog” I’d argue is far less valuable than anyone’s time but that is just my personal bias. There are so many bloggers that take days and days or a week+ just to put together photos, create backgrounds and scenery for the stores they blog for. I really don’t think you see how insane it is to demand bloggers give you a guarantee to blog things while simultaneously saying “my time and effort > their time and effort”. There are happy mediums. Go to a different event or learn that every store RL and SL needs to use advertising in some form to stay afloat.

        There are plenty of stores who’s owners just blog their own shit or have their partner(s) do it and I’m sure it’s because they don’t want to give anyone else anything for free.

      • “Your time and effort isn’t more valuable than a blogger’s time and effort.”

        In a free market economy skilled labor is almost always worth more than unskilled labor. How many people in the world can take a screenshot? How many can create rigged mesh clothes? When you pay someone for their time you are also paying them for the time it took to develop the skills they are using.

      • I’m not demanding bloggers blog my stuff. I think it’s a waste of time and effort for both of us involved. I don’t like nor understand “bloggers”, I think they’re just the SL version of “influencers” – even sadder than the “real” ones – so I don’t get them involved. I don’t do events that require blogpacks, if I’m invited to one I have no problem telling the one who invited me, “Sorry but I don’t do blogpacks, I’ll have to decline” and move on.

        As I’ve stated like ten times, doing just fine with blogger-free events. I just talk about bloggers because it’s fun to see them rage and go full entitled beggar over the slightest of criticism. If I so much as say “lol bloggers stick to DDLG bimbo aesthetic” the comment section here explodes.

      • This genius comment thread either thinks it takes 10-15 minutes to create and texture an original mesh(I die  😂  😂 ), or they think you deserve to make like $.25/per hr, and even that’s a generous estimation based on them saying a single 200-300L item covers your compensation. The sheer entitled stupidity of these statements is actually kinda impressive. It’s not often you get to see people tell on themselves for being both incredibly cheap and ungrateful, and then proudly double down on it.

        I would love for these dumbfucks to try using Blender for just one hour, one time. There’s a reason I don’t make shit and I’m content to pay whatever a creator thinks they need out of something I want- I took a swing at it. It’s difficult to learn, and even once a person is proficient, making meshes is a pain in the ass- and making really good textures is too. I have a feeling these smooth brain twats think you can buy some full perm textures and slap them into a map to achieve a high-quality effect, when nothing is further from the truth. My avi wouldn’t be caught dead in anything made that way.

        I love that “get a real job” shit too, as if most people in SL don’t have “real jobs” in addition to their SL stores; that doesn’t mean it’s ok to devalue the extra time you dedicate to SL creation. A SL where every creator who charges less than they are worth decided to stop in favor of “real jobs” would be a shopping wasteland. All those options we take for granted, just gone; only low-effort and overpriced garbage would remain. We are spoiled for reasonably priced choices right now by comparison, especially women/female avatars. I wonder if the weekend sales have helped create that level of entitlement?

        You’re right, it is kinda funny to watch the meltdowns, not just from bloggers but from people who seem to honestly believe no one in SL does more than $2 worth of work per creation. I do wish there was a way to limit their SL experience to those parameters without punishing the rest of us though. Like, some level below “free account” for cheapskates who complain about paying more than third world sweatshop rates when shopping. Congrats, they’ll never spend more than $2 per item- because the only things they can buy are shitty full perm meshes with oversaturated colors tinted on them inworld. No realistic textures or materials for them! lol

      • I mean, some “creators” genuinely do take 10-15 minutes, because… they get some prefab shitty unoptimized mesh, throw it in Substance Painter, put on one basic material, and sell that. But that’s not the majority of creators, and certainly not quality content.

        You also see these dumb takes if you’re in any group where people seek commissions. Saw a genius one just recently. “I need this piece of intricate jewelry remade in SL, it must be hyper-detailed and look good, btw I need it in no more than a week.” Tons of SL players don’t know the first thing about creating, most frustratingly, how it’s not as simple as “I recite some magic words in my spellbook that is Blender and I instantly have a SL item ready to go.” Then those same people who think I shouldn’t take any time at all to make stuff, and shouldn’t charge more than a few L$ for it, will whine when told to make anything themselves (be it textures, mesh, scripts, art, ANYTHING) because “Waaa I am talentless waaa I can’t, I tried for 5 minutes once but I just wasn’t born with talent.”

        I don’t do SL for profit, I do it because I like it, and in doing so I only want to make quality stuff. I put my whole effort into the stuff I create, if it’s good enough for me to release, then I don’t really want to give it out for free, at least not to randoms. Once again – if someone were to approach me about being a blogger specifically for my store, or to take ad pics for me, specifically? Sure! I’d be open to giving out stuff in exchange for their work. But that argument is going over their heads… like everything else.

        If you want things that are quality in SL, you must be prepared to pay, or make it yourself. That’s how it goes.

      • Nah I totally get it, you’ve been saying all along giving things to bloggers who are actually using it to advertise for you is different than having to give things to bloggers who aren’t obligated in any way to promote you, and I don’t know why anyone would agree to that tbh. Maybe a SAMPLE of your work, but not complete free fatpacks. I think they just get really upset at any mention of changes that might result in them having to do more work for their freebies.

      • I live for your posts. Entitled Blogger Karen’s to another point of view on the fatpack expectations. They’re lucky they get one textured item for free. They need to stop complaining. Preach! No one is entitled to your work.

      • Once I buy an item, I have bought the mesh and a texture, paying that designer the full price they have so deemed for their time to make the item. Charging me the same price for a second item with a different texture is not the same as buying a completely new item, I am in fact being charged again for their time in building and rigging the mesh. A fatpack typically charges the price of every single texture with a 10-20% bulk discount. So if there are 10 textures and the item costs 200L, the fatpacks typically goes for 2000L, minus a bulk discount of say, 10% which would make it 1600L. So we are being charged for one mesh item and 10 textures. If time and effort are what we are buying, then the price of a fatpack should be 200L for the first item, followed by 100L for each texture for a total of 1100L with the assumption that the creator would charge 50% for the mesh and 50% for the texture. Minus the bulk discount that usually gets added on at 10% for a grand total of 990L. You can change the numbers and percentage any which way, the fact is, fatpacks should not be charging again for the same mesh that only needed to be created and rigged once.

        This is why fatpacks are a scam and we should do away with the whole thing and just make one mesh, bunch of textures and charge per rigged body. It makes more sense, will generate more income for creators, and gives them an incentive to update existing products. I know a lot of creators and old school Second Lifers are going to disagree, but just because things are being done a certain way now, doesn’t make it correct.

      • LOL

        You can’t really believe that’s true. If creators charged as much as they think their time creating the product was worth for each single color item, the outrage would be heard ’round the grid. Sale shoppers would drop dead of shock at the prices. Creators count on the fact that they can sell the work multiple times and fatpack purchasers to compensate them for their time as a whole, in overall sales; you’re here saying someone who sells 10 single color items has been compensated 10x over for their time. That’s just asinine, like I can’t even imagine being entitled enough to type all that out in seriousness.

        Now I’m not entirely in disagreement about fatpacks- there are definitely some shady things going on there, like making that the only way to get the most popular colors or any kind of pattern is a shitty thing to do. “Fatpack exclusive” textures can be ok, as long as they’re not the ONLY ones people would really want. We can always just tell those people to go fuck themselves and shop elsewhere though. Most of what you had to say there was pure nonsense, and just because people who have never attempted to make anything agree with you doesn’t make you correct. They’re just salty that they can’t afford the fatpacks they want.

      • You only think it’s pure nonsense because your reading comprehension (and maybe basic math skills) are kind of terrible, I’ve been noticing. See, I never said anything about people agreeing with me, I said I know I’m going to get people who are stuck in their ways to disagree with me. If you’re going to disagree with me, at least actually read.

        Now, if anything, I am promoting the idea, if you were paying attention, to give creators more money for something that actually takes time, rigging. Which is why in the end, if you’re still reading and comprehending, I am saying, let’s do away with fatpacks and start buying per body.

        Also, do you know how money in SL works? I spend my time making money (Some IRL and some ISL). My time and your time, and their time are equally valuable. The way you are complaining about people not giving creators their due, it seems you forget that our time as customers is just as important. Most of us are waking up, going to work, doing a job, earning money. This is why the argument, “But creating takes time and they spend so much time and you’re buying it for cheap!” Doesn’t really hold water. The argument of time spent is meaningless since we are all spending time to earn money. What does matter is whether or not the creator is making something that enough people find a value in that the creator makes a profit.

      • LOL My reading comprehension? Nah. You’re the one who is making zero sense, and your agreement is coming from no one but poors and people who hate me(and Bossbitch). I quoted you and broke down what you said, but of course you ignored that, because I’m sure you can’t respond to it without sounding even more idiotic(and cheap).

      • You are being unrealistic! I do not agree with this bashing to the bloggers, but you cannot say by purchasing 10 single colors/prints you have paid their work!
        I have no idea how long does it takes to release an item but make the mesh, rig it for all the most used sizes, texture it, make huds, pack it, make vendors images and whatever more they have to do every time, cant be done within a couple of hours, this probably takes days and many hours of work.
        I do buy fatpacks and i appreciate when stores give us that option, is way cheaper than buy all the colors 1 by 1 and is also my way to keep supporting their work.
        The day they find themselves wasting their time, yes because nobody goes through all that process because they love it, then SL is as good as dead, you will not have what to buy and you will eventually stop loggin.

      • See, you and Be Less Ignorant aren’t actually reading what I’m saying. Or at least you’re not comprehending it well. What I’m saying is that when you buy a red shirt, you are putting money into that creator’s time for making the item, its texture, the hud, the advert, and the marketing. When you decide to buy the same shirt, but in green, you are buying all the things I just said a second time, but a green texture instead of red. In a fatpack, the only thing that changes is the texture, but fatpacks are priced that you are buying the mesh, the texture, the hud, the advert, and the marketing for every single item in the fatpack and that is that part of a fatpack that does not make any sense when you are only recieving one item and a handful of textures.

        You fallow? The solution to this, in my opinion, is to release all textures (and sure, the prices might be marked up a bit, like in the case of what Doux is doing), but then charge by the rigging. If anything this would be not only more friendly to the customers since designers don’t have to resort to predatory tactics like gatekeeping behind fatpacks, but also gives them more money for each body. It also gives them a better idea as to any bodies they can or cannot let go of. Is Hourglass still relevant? We don’t really know! You might think it is, I don’t think it is, but we have no evidence really one way or another outside of what we feel is accurate. Switching out of fatpacks and switching into a per body system would give us better insight and be friendlier to everyone involved.

      • following your logic, a single color should not be sold for 200 or 300L because for that value you are not even paying the cost of creating it, plus their time needs to be paid too. You dont spend 40 hours or more doing stuff for others without expecting an income. SL shopping is cheap and you should be glad you can buy someone’s work for 200 or 300L or if you wait for it to be on sale is even cheaper.

        If you think SL stores are having huge incomes you are wrong there are expenses involved too like land, production costs, employees, fees, taxes and so on. To those making of this their RL income, yes because 40 hours a week is a full time job, their final salary is not that huge or even enough to live of after paying for everything listed above.

      • My reading comprehension is impeccable, at least in English, thank you very much.

        Once I buy an item, I have bought the mesh and a texture, paying that designer the full price they have so deemed for their time to make the item. Charging me the same price for a second item with a different texture is not the same as buying a completely new item, I am in fact being charged again for their time in building and rigging the mesh.

        This is what you said. If you didn’t mean that the price of a single color item was the full compensation for that person’s work, then you expressed yourself badly. Never was the price of a single color item intended to reflect the full amount that creator thinks their work is worth(or cost of those creating proprietary meshes for that creator), and I guarantee any creator you ask will back me up on that. The price of a single fatpack even, is not anywhere close to full compensation for their efforts. The fact that their items can be sold in virtually infinite numbers is the only reason why creating in SL is worth it, with as little as they profit per sale. Even if creators did switch to individual body fatpacks, they would still cost a lot more than single color items, and rightly so. Also, “individual bodies” that have multiple options, such as Legacy+Perky, Maitreya+Petite, would cost more than ones with only one rig.

        The simple fact is, if you have never created an original mesh or texture, you have no business determining their market value, because you have no idea what you’re talking about in terms of the work involved. You throw around these ridiculous assertions about what would make creators more money as if they were facts when they’re really only based on you wanting things cheaper. You can only decide what things are worth to you. If something isn’t worth what the creator wants for it to you, don’t buy it. It doesn’t mean their pricing is wrong.

        Not being able to afford something in SL is a non-issue. Everyone whining about it needs to grow up and deal with their real problems, to gain some perspective.

      • Maybe this person whining here on VS about their precious robbed blogger packs should take the time and work a real job in the real world then. This person is parading the anti blogger parade here for weeks now. Must have plenty of time, probably just using ripped textures anyways. I have no compassion for people like her … because SHE started to devalue the time a blogger takes for promoting shit and trying to make the crap look good in shiny pictures, but her time is worth more? Sorry that I’m not feeling that lol You can’t devalue other people’s time and then be like “bUt aLl tHe AfForD I hAd”.

      • Ew, I don’t rip textures – they look trashy and crusty.
        Also, I don’t do SL content creation for profit/as a job. That’s ridiculous. My stuff’s way too niche to make that kind of money. I do it ’cause I want certain stuff to exist in SL and because it’s fun (sometimes)

      • “I deserve free stuff because it’s not THAT expensive”

        Okay freeloader. And nah, my stuff ain’t overpriced… my fatpacks are -big- and for 2-5k it’s a pretty good deal. I charge way less than most people in the events I do, mostly because I’m not such a big name and literally wouldn’t be making sales if I charged as much as, or more than, more well-known store brands.

        But my tactic of “Sell cheap items that makes tons of sales” seems to be working in my favor, so, I ain’t gonna fix what isn’t broken.

      • Meh, Fatpacks are a scam anyway. 299L for a single texture on a shirt, but you change it up a few times (most times it’s not even a change of texture, just the same texture with different hues) and you want us to pay you 10X more than the price for the single color? What creators should be doing is charging 299L for all the colors/textures and charge PER BODY since rigging is really where the time and effort goes in. Also, this would stop your bitching about giving out fatpacks as bloggers can just request for a particular body. 🙂

        Also, as a customer, it’d be nice to give creators an incentive to update my favorite items to a new body.

      • My fatpacks exist solely as a “thank you” discount for people who, for whatever reason, want to buy every single variant. Cheaper to get the FPs than to buy all things individually.

        I basically add up the cost of every single pack, then subtract a discount percentage.

        I didn’t think they’d be best sellers, but they’re actually up there with the most sales, I guess people like to bulk buy.

      • I don’t know if you ever actually thanked someone in your life, but when I say, “Thank you,” I’m usually not needlessly taking their money. Also, this pretty much solidifies my statement further down about why Fatpacks are a scam. Why are you adding up all the different colors as if they were different items? They’re the same item, you should be charging for the textures and therefore should be considerably much cheaper.

        But I guess we thank people differently.

      • ??? What?
        I do charge by textures/variants, what are you on? The mesh only needs to be uploaded once, the textures take up most of the work/upload cost (and are my least favorite part.)

        You don’t make any sense. But as usual, I expect you’re a non-creator trying to tell us how to do our jobs. Customers love that.

      • Where does it say a blogger’s pack has to be a fatpack? Stores invented that concept not bloggers. You send what you would like to have advertised. Bloggers will never display every color or every item you send them, the reason why stores send bloggers a fatpack is to have them mix matching colors, patterns and so on. But you can do that too and send just a single item of what you would like to see displayed. If no blogger blogs your product you didn’t lose much, if 30 bloggers blog your product it will look like you have no other options available lol. But hey is always up to you to decide what you want to have advertised as it is up to them blog it or not.  🙄 

  59. #38
    The most disturbing part in this is…it’s SL this means some dude is gonna pixel humping this and actually fondling his noodle to it in RL…

    • Even more disturbing fact: It’s going to be a dude in addition to the one that created this abomination

  60. I still don’t understand the whole SL tattoo market. They don’t even change it up even a little bit to qualify as fair use. And people buy what is essentially clip art copy pasted onto a body part. It’s like the morons who buy NFTs. It’s just very expensive clip art.

    If you don’t change it up, color it, maybe add something to it so the work is at least 75% yours, you’re a talentless hack hoping for some creator clout.

    Also the idiots who double down on it when they’re called out are idiots. How hard is it to change if some? Add some colors? An overlay maybe? They’re not even trying.

    • When I was in art school, we were taught the 20% minimum rule. If you take something or even reference something blatantly and change it at minimum 20% that is considered acceptable amongst the vast majority of people and by law.

      These “tattoo” places are by no way changing the art whatsoever and claiming they “didn’t know” as if that makes it okay. I wish people would call out other tattoo places like EZ for doing the same thing, yet people still wear his ugly tattoos that have 0 theme in the sleeves whatsoever, again putting in that extreme low effort.

      • Agreed 100%. They’re talentless. They just copy paste something usually into the same overused areas and aren’t even artful. It’s lazy. And the people who buy it are risking it disappearing from their inventory when the DMCA goes through.

      • Yeah for sure. I don’t think they understand that once the creator gets taken off SL the stuff goes too, putting all the money the put towards the “tattoo” down the drain. Usually a lot of these morons make off like bandits though. I hope we can push people who want to be legitimate tattoo makers in the right direction and lift up those who put in time and effort into making original art or their own rendition of an original rather than these lazy people who grab a photo from Pinterest and grayscale it.

    • 99% of tattoo stores in SL do not draw their products! TBH i think this 5 posts about the same person are more about personal issues than about the tattoos being copied from a real artist. But i agree with you, putting some effort onto what they are making would be nice for a change and would probably avoid being bashed about copying the work of real artists.

  61. #39 Exactly how I feel when someone says they hate the squish mods. “Cool now go the fuck away from the people that do” 🤣

    • I wonder if the added anti-squish attention is helping sales. It’s like how Elvis’ manager sold both I Hate Elvis and I love Elvis souvenirs. The ones who are aghast at either side will instinctively buy as a protest. And the people who aren’t involved or never saw the product are now buying.

      The creators are wiping their tears away with your dollars. The controversy is helping sales. Your push back against them is drawing more eyes to them than they otherwise would have got.

      • Idk about that honestly. People have been demanding squish effect clothes for the longest time literally buying anything to that measure. So I don’t think they wouldn’t of gotten attention. Most creators don’t even pay attention to this site. 🌝

      • Eh, most don’t, but I used to know a few store owners who would start to separate themselves from bloggers who are posted here. Even if you didn’t protest or react to the secret posted about you, they’d still start slowly information dieting and lessening what they offered to the blogger. They just didn’t want any controversy to touch their store sales. It’s sadly a thing.

        Plus the added exposure and sales for anyone who thinks it looks good or wants to be anti-VS.

  62. 13 – abnormality is not a horny event i’m so confused by this statement

    • Yeah it’s just a toxic one. Kustom9 and literally any other event is way better.

        • Require creators to give out free “blogpacks”, bloggers actually promoting your store isn’t guaranteed (they’re not the only event that does this. But still gross.)
        • Constantly jerking off and allowing super toxic creators to continue doing their shit, not knowing when to tell someone no
        • Whoever the fuck ANIMA is and whatever they’re up to, got red flags written all over it.

        I’ve seen worse events, but, it’s still not great.

      • Well you know what Poggers BossBITCH. If you don’t like how the event is ran then don’t fucking apply and yes you are correct! Coming from BOTH SIDES my other events require blogger packs. I can tell you don’t get too far with your business with that mentally that you have. In fact, I want to know what’s the name of your store so I don’t shop there. If you that bold then state the store? You come on here and bash an event(s) because its “required to give blogger packs”

        I guarantee you one of the ones that give the entire twitter community packs whenever they suck your asshole or one if your friends that backstab you and talk shit. I’m sick of designer whining about waah waah waaah I have to give a 2.00 dollar item to people I don’t know when your going to make more than 2.00 dollars back. I’m sick of hearing that bullshit. DON’T LIKE DON’T FUCKING JOIN OR COMPLAIN HOW A COMPANY RUN THEIR BUSINNESS

        Next, I sense someone here is salty because their not getting Anima items? That’s what that sounds like. So I’m waah waah waah, I’m upset yet again, only certain people get items and I don’t. Okay cry about it. Lelutka has an exclusive team and you don’t see me crying when my friend get their latest head. Waah waah waah, I’m going to throw a hissy fit till I get what I want. Waah waah waah, let me go to twitter where other people will suck my asshole and agree with me. Waah waah waah that’s all everyone do is fucking complain.

        SHUT THE FUCK UP

      • That’s correct, I don’t apply to events that require me to give handouts. I apply to events that are pro-creator and benefit me. Doing just fine without feeding the leeches, my store is taking off pretty big. You don’t get to know it, it’s funnier to me if I don’t tell…

        Also, I don’t use Twitter. I don’t give out stuff for free other than two people – who are both extremely close friends I’ve known for years, ONLY when I require their assistance to help me take display pics. (They make better avatars than I do lol.)

        And, you’re KINDA right in that – yeah. I make hundreds of thousands of L$ spread across multiple events… so giving out free stuff to “Bloggers” isn’t a profit loss. But the thing is I shouldn’t HAVE to. Bloggers pick and choose what to show off, event bloggers are not bound to any specific creator, I’ve never seen an event that states bloggers HAVE to blog everyone’s content. So if I’m not given guaranteed promo, then why would I bother giving out free stuff in the first place? The two people who work with me for ad pics get free things because I can rely on them to take pictures. Flickr thotties who do nothing but post ad pics and jerk off the same few creators (especially in the furry community, good lord) are not entitled to free content just because they’re flickr thots.

        Also wdym “getting anima items” bruh they are at the event, just fucking buy them I guess? Though to be honest, Anima are shady as fuck, everything they seem to do is bizarre and I give it, say, maybe a few more weeks before some massive drama collapses about them.

      • Nice “Successful Designer on SL” LARP sesh, Poggers Bossbitch. I can tell you work on that in the mirror a lot!

      • Nowhere did I say I was “successful”, but that’s subjective anyway. I’m successful in my own eyes because I enjoy what I do and make what seems like a big profit to me.

        But I’m no super-well-known brand like Legacy, Velour, etc, not even close, haha. I’m cool with that though. I think being middle-ground is the best of both worlds.

      • Then why are you complaining?! You don’t want to give to bloggers, but you complain about giving to bloggers. You’re not in events, okay?! What’s the issue to complain about events? Yet again, your complaining. Waah waaah, events require to give blogger backs, but I’m not in events. So I’m going to complain. Twitter, Facebook, IG, who gives a shit where you complain.

        I can tell you right now, I am not a flickr thottie. I do not follow trends, I don’t like any of the new trends, but do I complain? No. I take pride in my art that I do. So what if each person have their favorite designers. Have you asked yourself, well maybe they’re on their blogger team, thus why they get featured a lot? So they follow the trends and that automatically makes them a “thottie”??

        What makes Anima “shady”? So they’re eccentric. What creator isn’t eccentric? I’ve seen some of the top brands have rumors circulate on this site and off and they’re just as eccentric.

      • I can dislike and bitch about something if I so please. Just like how I think Kupra users are fugly. I don’t buy the body, don’t use it… but I’m still allowed to go “lol that’s fugly.”

        Plus, in this case, forcing to give a blogpack is a shitty standard that fucks over newer creators – some may be going into events thinking that this is the norm and acceptable. It fuckin’ aint.

        Also, did you misread? ‘Cause I am in events. Multiple. I do the events that don’t require “blogpack” shit. Making a big profit just fine without any “blogger” morons.

        Anima aren’t “eccentric,” they’re secretive. Shady, even. They won’t talk to/communicate with customers, they hide their identities, they won’t even talk to EACHOTHER, and there are rumors going around that the people who ARE involved are people who already have sour reputations for drama & content theft.

        Seriously – they wouldn’t be hiding behind this anonymity schtick if they didn’t have something to hide. Why go through all that effort otherwise?

      • They’re not particularly anonymous, you can go look in their store group right now and pretty easily find out who does what. Vetheros does scripting and retopo, Crow does the main sculpts as far as I can tell (he also formerly did AVentity,) and then they’ve got Arbitros who just seems to be some artist for hire they brought into SL to help with Anima. I’m not entirely sure which one of them “runs” the brand, but I don’t really care all that much either because I have no reason to.

      • Who is Vetheros?
        Alias Aura/Sugarcult is listed as their retopo artist. Or was, in the discord, last time I checked.

        I also don’t know who Arbitros is, but I’ve seen a bunch of people with the red role in the discord which I ASSUME is their staff rule. Seems to be.

        Also, there’s rumors of someone named “Motoko” involved, who apparently steals content/designs. I’d like to investigate that more tbh

      • I’ve got it tuned to intercept the brainwaves of bloggers & furries, just the way I like it

      • Right us bloggers are leaches?? I beg the differ. After buying creators over priced fat packs or a shirt that they reused meshed tweaked it here and there, plastered some sort of stolen graphic onto it or a bland texture. The 2 dollar item everyone is complaining about I have to invest in just to take a fucking photo.

        I have to find the perfect hair, decorations, accessories, and so forth. Just so I can make a fucking photo. Your so called hard work you creators bicker over. We, bloggers work just as equally as hard.

        Event owners pick bloggers because their the best at what they can and give newer bloggers a chance. Most events encourage to give some sort of item or a notecard to request said item.

        Every week it’s the same sob tale from designers.

      • Not every creator steals. Why are you buying from people who steal art anyway?

        Oh boohoo your life is so hard because you have to co-ordinate a look (when most bloggers clearly don’t put effort into that part either.)

        Try doing what I do, meshing. I dare ya. Wanna still tell me how it’s such a hardship to take thirst trap flickr pics after that? lololol

      • LMAO, you seriously think attaching an outfit and picking a backdrop is as much work as creating original meshes and textures  😂  😂  posts here rarely make me laugh out loud, but good job, you managed it. That is a truly comedic level of delusion.

    • Yeah, I didn’t understand that either. It’s literally mostly furry mods and makeup, SO KINKY.

    • Yeah like – wtf. It has it’s flaws but I thought they outright ban too explicit products? Orrr was that the other furry event.

      That being said. I visited the sim and most of the shoppers had their tits and ass out, some had pregnancy HUDs on, so… the EVENT may not be horny but damn the customers are lmao.

      • Nah they’re straight up allowing sex furniture with explicit ads and fetishized boy scout uniforms this round. *gestures at the stuff Short Leash, Pink Soul, and Luminary Magick are selling*
        Someone also has a vendor out for lactating nipples, but I don’t remember who. If there’s any rules against explicit content, they’re not being enforced that’s for sure.

      • Oh yeah, true. Guess I deleted it from my mind… but now I remember. Only visited once I think.

        And that would be NSFWZhenya. As the name implies. I mean – sure, adult region, but I’d rather not see leaking nips out in the open.

        Also I love that most of the horny stuff isn’t even relatively “camp” themed. Again with Abnormality’s poor advertising. Advertises itself as a themed event for “unusual” avatars, ends up being generic furry every single round.

  64. Saskia is a hateful selfish person. She tries to hide behind her “sheltered homeschooled” upbringing to excuse her backwards views. She’s a bigot and I can’t believe she came back with a new name and a new store and people are still supporting her. Don’t shop Wareta!

  65. Never stop calling out content thieves and letting the original artists know; it’s so pathetic to try and make money off someone else’s work, and doubly so when you accept compliments for it as if you had any artistic skill yourself.

    14) Probably because trying to rig an adam’s apple bottom half to several different bodies and top half to several different heads is just way more of a headache than any potential profit from something like that would be worth. The way the separation is right in the middle of the neck really kills that kind of idea.

    22) LOL are you kidding? White guys in black male avatars are the subject of constant mockery; everyone is laughing at them and their racist stereotypical posturing (except fetishists who only care about a Big Black Aeros). So are white male otakus in their ultraweeb avatars, they get just as little respect as the desperate uwu clone girls. Also, men in female avatars are one of the oldest jokes in SL. Idk where you got the idea guys get a free pass, but you are sorely mistaken.

    38) Yikes- but I swear I’ve seen worse. The brainless bimbo thing is really out of hand.

    45) I’ve spent my rewards points at Skinnery just fine, during this year. Perhaps talk to their extremely helpful customer service directly about your personal issue.

    46&47) Yes.

    52) You miss the point that sometimes those labels are used outside of their designated time periods because the attitudes displayed by someone’s comments fit that label better than the one for their actual age.

    • Not to mention nobody brags about their Adam’s apple. Who’s going to buy that on SL? Nobody. It’s included in male mesh bodies. Nobody gets insecure about their small or big Adam’s apple.

      People do get insecure about their cocks and boobs though. Oh they’re too small, they’re too big, they’re sexy… blah blah blah. Sex sells. It’s what SL exists off of.

      • I am not excited about the idea but I could see how someone roleplaying as a transitioning MtF could use an actual bulging adams apple to represent their journey and struggle with passing as the gender they identify with. OR for drag queens who intentionally present themselves as men in dresses who get clocked by those features. Adams apples usually come as part of male skins, flat and looking obviously painted-on. So maybe this is why the OP thought about this mod or maybe they were just making a sarcastic statement about everyone striving for ultra realism in SL.

  68. 18. – hi alex shut up and keep dessing up like a female bimbo bitch like you always do with your bobble headed premie dog ass looking head sculpts.

      • So you’ve made about a dozen posts fixated on how awful furries are and how they’re pedos and ruin sims, but you apparently also surround yourself with furries?

        ??

      • I am a creator. For SL. Furries are everywhere, whether I like it or not.

        And if you read my other comments, I stated that I used to be a furry creator, until I got sick of their constant BS, nuked my store, and remade it with no furry content. My anti-furry stance solely comes from tons of firsthand experience. Lol.

        Don’t know an Alex personally but I know there are several prominent furries by that name. Alex of Sugarcult. Darksider Alex of Process of Elimination. Et cetera. I just wanna know who done fucked up lmao.

  69. 32.

    Jake does have a decent amount of body mods. Someone also made squishy thighs for them, too.

    • And what do you know- same as Reborn, there’s a fully mod version of Jake body. Funny how that works.

    • But that’s Jake. Are there any more options? And look at the options that are available, the ‘variety’ between all of them and the things that are made for those bodies. Comparatively it’s breadcrumbs against whole loafs.

  70. #37 – Ok Karen, just derender em and move on, we don’t need to hear you whine every week.

  71. #13: The reason why this happens is simple. Furries tend to get kicked out from most, if not all, non-furry sims and events, usually with very good reason because they attract drama like turd attracts flies. But unfortunately, this means that every single “different” or non-human friendly sim/event is instantly SWARMED with furries and they take it over into Yet Another Furry Place.

    Abnormality has some good designers. But I don’t use furry mods/Espen head. 90% of products are furry skins for Espen head…

    #38: Least botched Kupra user

    • everything this round is for the new heads from anima that were released there. everything is limited to basically just those species. mostly the same brown color palettes at every booth. this round may as well be anima’s event.

      • It’s almost like Anima are made up of those same “popufur” creators that get everywhere and cause drama, gaining special priority in events because of who they are, yet trying to remain “anonymous” because of their bad reputations…! GASP!

      • I’m not Ambix but I’ve heard that they’re bad news, and I am a sucker for the juiciness, so, care to elaborate? 😂

      • Are you the owner of Quills and Curiosities/Visual Magick? I asked friends I have who have furry avatars and that’s the only person they knew of that fit everything you’ve said (minus insults, one friend was horrified. They told me that store owner was nice and this sounded more like Alex SG behavior). You might as well out yourself to keep furries from buying from you.

      • I think you have your read there wrong considering this person keeps talking about imaginary anima team members and talks shit on Alex and AETHER. Roll again.

      • I absolutely could as I’m not into furry stuff but when I asked, that’s the only store that matched “was nuked with content made unavailable, treated like a traitor for it, had stuff that wasn’t selling, has a completely non-furry store now, only does events where no blogger pack is required, was a furry for ten years, knows a lot of creators, refuses to associate with furries now”.

      • Damn, you’re right. I completely forgot about visual magick. Did this person really give enough info away to be identified like this?? That’s hilarious. They’ve been fighting for their life in here the past three days.

      • If they are VM that is HILARIOUS considering their last snokra release was getting blasted for design theft.

      • I’m not VM but I am really flattered by this honestly, I love their stuff. Never was a huge fan of furries but their textures were a big inspiration to me for years.

        If they act like me, though? Absolutely based, my respect for them has gone up.

        inb4 this praise makes people think I’m VM

      • According to people I know, No, VM doesn’t act like you. They’re a bit more mature than a 4chan edgelord. People I know who have furry avs compared you to Alex from Sugarcult which from what I know can’t be flattery.

        So you’re basically a nobody then. Someone else suggested Feoh or Glutz since the attitude matched for them but Glutz does skimpy stuff and Feoh keeps trying to come back. Whomever you are, just drop your store name. You want to be an anti-furry hero so own it. There are probably people here who’d flock to buy from you if you make anything unique.

      • No, I won’t give it to you solely because you keep asking, and because it’s funny to watch you guess and be hilariously far off.

        Stay mad lmao

      • Not mad, just curious.

        Careful with that edge now, you’ll cut yourself on it.

      • U first bby. 1v1 me in the safe hub (adult) (surrounded by naked noobs)

      • No. I don’t take invites to adult areas and I’m not interested.

        You’ve very desperate to be someone and to “trigger” the masses but no one is triggered besides you. Friends were concerned you were VM but since that’s been resolved, continue to be cringe in peace.

      • How am I supposed to duel someone in a G rated sim SMFH!!!!!!!!!

        Also nah, I’m not. I don’t need to “be” anything. I’m just here for the ride.

      • I was speaking more in reference to “this sounds like Alex from SG” you’re okay!

      • “Imaginary”

        Then tell us, oh wise oracle, who IS the real Anima members?
        Or wait, does whoever the Anima boss is make you swear anonymity and NDA in order to stay on the team? Can’t you see how fucking weird that is? lol

      • I love how I’ve been accused of 3 (4?) different people now.
        Nah I’m not any of them and I’m definitely not Alex of SG (if that means Sugarcult) because I was talking about ’em earlier.

        Also I’m flattered but I’m nowhere near as well known as any of these names LMFAO

        My “furry” store doesn’t exist anymore, it was nuked way back. I mostly make clothes now. I would say that my content doesn’t really appeal to furries, it’s not overly slutty, doesn’t appeal to hypers/macros, I don’t support kupra or whatever… but ehh maybe some use it. I don’t know. I don’t care, really, customers are customers.

      • According to discord it is

        Crow, red hexem, aether and sugarcult so do with that what you will lol

      • So in that order – someone I’m not overly familiar with, Abnormality event runner (hence why this round is Anima centric), and then two notorious drama magnets who are too full of themselves and whine about having to even look at their peasant customers…? Yeah. Sounds about right.

        Though I’ve also heard that a content thief by the name of “Motoko” is involved, along with some other old names I haven’t seen in an oddly long time.

      • the most annoying shit is them giving advanced copies of the devkits to their partners and then backpedaling and calling it “commissioning” them in advance

    • its all anima head stuff this time. not so many wig dogs, more wig rodents. they look super weird to me.

      • I like the anima head sculpts (though idgaf for the 10 different doglike heads they’ve put out) but there’s something shady about them. The way their do their “business” is weird. Won’t communicate with customers, act kinda stuck up, bitch and whine about “artist abuse” when asked why they don’t communicate with customers etc… oh and supposedly some of the people involved are VERY notorious for drama.

      • They won’t communicate with customer because the sculptor is simply paid off by a bunch of toxic individuals. He doesn’t actually know what goes on.

      • Oh yes, I’ve heard as much. The sculptor doesn’t know. The PR guy doesn’t know, and I’ve heard rumors that one of the people pulling the strings, if not the person running things, is a known content thief. Unconfirmed, though.

        Either way, it’s shady as FUCK if your team aren’t all in the know, won’t talk to customers, and hide their identities. That can mean absolutely nothing good. “Protecting creators” my virtual ass.

      • sugarcult has done some of the headsculpts, they did the opossum head one. mostly sugarcult’s been doing the UV cleanup

    • “because they attract drama like turd attracts flies.”

      I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
      You’re not wrong, but holy fucking shit take that telegraph pole out of your own eye before you try to remove the splinter from another’s. So many screaming screeching hub grubs to pick from, so little time…

      • Uh oh, did my words strike a soft spot in your murry purry tailhole…? Why so sewious owo?

        Also, maybe I like having a pole in my eye. Don’t kinkshame me, yiffer.

      • “maybe you’re the side that’s a part of the problem.”
        I’m on a side now?
        “I was deep into the furry community for years. Used to make furry content. Stopped, nuked it all from my store, don’t support furries anymore.”
        And all the drama left with you. Funny, that.
        “Blackmailed, threatened, doxed…”
        You just described literally any SL hub.
        “yiffer.”
        Oh how original.

        Go on, keep clicking that downvote button like it means a thing. Meanwhile I’ll be the one chilling in a corner, occasionally ignoring some oddball IM from a very human-looking agent who likes the look of my two foot tall stuffed-animal avatar a little too much.

        I mean, that’s after letting the area load enough that I’m not seeing just a pile of orange smokepuffs with animesh dicks attached.

      • Little bit of projection, there, I see animesh cocks on furries way more often than humanoid avs. Always the nasty, dripping, prolapsed looking ones too. I used to blacklist them en masse before I realized that was only temporary, and reset every time they rejoined a region… ugh.

      • Out of all the “hubs” I’ve hung around or been in the only issues I’ve witnessed doxxing, and a hell of a lot of it was from furry ones. In fact 100% of it was. And yeah, based on your other comments, you’re definitely in the obnoxious, annoying, non-self aware & cringy category.

      • How is this an argument lmao, do you always act this retarded when challenged?

      • No, the OP has a point that’s valid 100% I have plenty of friends that are furries for the look or just because they like to mod their avatar, and the community is garbage. My one friend whom I’ve had the pleasure of meeting IRL and has been a good friend of mine since 2012 ish and has in the furry community since maybe 2005, and I myself hang around furries from time to time, both of my friends fully backs this belief and comment as well as myself just from witnessing years of wild dramatics and unbelievable true stories that I could write novels about. It’s absolutely insane. We often joke about the toxic and emotionally immature / straight up immaturity of these grown individuals that tend to be and have some type of.. something. There’s not a lot of redeeming qualities of these people that can’t self reflect and stay away from the drama. Because of that, yeah, it does get people like my friends who just like to have a cute or out of the box avatar get kicked from places before they could even speak just on the grounds of precaution and rightful stereotyping. It is annoying, but it is genuinely one of those cases where there’s a large bunch of spoiled apples that are ruining it for the rest of the batch. If you’re getting upset over the OP’s comment or original post that wasn’t directed at you to begin with, maybe you’re the side that’s a part of the problem.

      • Exactly this.
        I was deep into the furry community for years. Used to make furry content. Stopped, nuked it all from my store, don’t support furries anymore. Why? Because over 10 or so years, the furry drama I’ve witnessed eclipses literally any other community on the planet. And not just “drama” as in petty fighting, I also mean shit like pedophiles and zoophiles running around. Shit’s wack.

        Those of us who bitch the loudest about furries, are usually ex-furries or were furry-adjacent people who are bitching because we saw it firsthand.

      • 110% agree with you there. I’m sorry you had to do that with your store but it’s completely understandable. I don’t think people realize the drama extends beyond the gross zoophile and pedo shit either. I’ve seen people be actually doxxed and sent death threats (amongst many other terrible things that I’m not sure if I can write on here) and people had to move just for speaking an opinion about something or because so and so didn’t like that they were friends with such and such. It’s legit dangerous at times and why I’m so standoffish towards furries to begin with. You and I both know how intense the drama can get, and yet the furries who can’t / won’t self reflect or take a minute to look around and see the ridiculous and dangerous behavior. Not even mentioning the cringe behavior and “jokes” that are stuck in circa 2001 con humor.

      • It is what it is. Honestly I mostly just nuked the furry stuff ’cause it was old, not selling well, and I was tired of idiots messaging me about it and demanding I update it for X product when it was years old. Got me a bit of a reputation as a “traitor” or whatever, but I’m much more confident and happier making stuff without the furry association, haha.

        And indeed. My friends have been severely targeted. Blackmailed, threatened – all over petty furry shit. But even without that, I still don’t like having strangers approach me with “Murrs, nuzzles and licks u” all the fucking time…

      • I’ve made some mods and add ons that I’ve noticed a large number of people who buy those products are furries and a large number of people who complain about it needing to be updated for X reason.. tend to also be furries and real aggressive ones at that, so you made the smart move. I get a really shitty NC or two at least twice a month. If some of these didn’t sell as well as they do I’d take them down, and I probably will in the future considering what you’ve just said, and, well, case in point a commenter in this thread acting like a handful of said senders of those NC’s.

        And yeah the whole *licks u n nuzzles running away* is not only super cringe but the amount of pure CSA jokes or 2008 r*pe jokes, and just overall “random XD” humor that was funny (which is a bit of a stretch of the word because I found it obnoxious to a point even then) is just exasperating. You imagine the people on the other side of the screen are maybe 12-15 but they’re 23-40 somethings that are just absolutely stunted by their own fruition.

      • I know, right? The amount of times I’ve stated in my product descriptions (et cetera) that my item doesn’t work for X body or X item and I have ZERO plans to support that, and I still get IMs, mostly from furries, demanding I update it for such. Or people leaving angry one star reviews because they didn’t fucking stop to read the description.

        I really feel like most furries are adults with genuine social/mental difficulties. Though that’s not an excuse to behave like a creep or an ass; as I have known plenty of people with various issues who are perfectly able to not be a dick. But the furry community is an echo chamber. They never condemn the creeps, they enable their behavior because it’s “quirky XD”, and the cycle continues. They keep going because nobody around them is telling them no.

      • God forbid if you tell them no, then suddenly it’s like a personal attack or something.

        It’s gotten to the point on SL now that if I see a furry pop up in the wild and they don’t have a huge raging dog / cat / horse / lizard dick, some annoying walker / spammed spanker or headpat clicker or even a collar that jingles and makes a shit ton of noise, or even now which is a new thing is the breathing and sniffing mixed in with purrs or barking, like annoying Jian pets that people mute right away. It’s like finding a four leaf clover that I don’t have to derrender or mute. It’s wild. I can’t believe my eyes and what I’m witnessing and gives me hope that maybe that one little furry that doesn’t wear all that nonsense out in public or the wild, proves that 00.1% of furries are not absolute nonces.

        Extra points if they’re on a G rated sim or a M rated sim with a peen out, too. I had someone use the excuse “Well real dogs walk around with their dicks out all the time like there’s 0 common sense, or any excuse to justify their shitty and weird ass behavior.

        The problem is, is that is a a large majority of furries too, and that’s what gives them the bad wrap. I’m waiting for some large amount of downvotes on this thread between our comments alone, and those are definitely from the furries we’re talking about.

      • Furries generally can’t handle a no, regardless whether it’s a creation/product request, invite to sex, TP spam, friend request, anything… well, certainly doesn’t help that consent seems like a joke to most of them, having the mind of edgy 13 y/os who think rape is SOOO hilarious.

        Ohgod yes the sound players are the worst. I don’t block often but that will drive me to. You ever run into the gesture hotkey bind sounds some furries have? Furry-friendly sandboxes are insufferable because I swear, a ton of them have gestures that are triggered by typing common words, or in some cases letters. I encountered someone who had gestures speaking robotic TTS for every other word they typed and it was honestly infuriating. Who likes this? And why???

        I’d say if someone is breaking G/M rated sim rules, report them, but I mean… I’ve reported several, clear-as-day furry pedos/ageplayers, sexualized “cub” (child furry) avatars, and LL haven’t banned a single one… so I can’t say that’ll get anywhere.

        In my experience, the true decent furries are 1. rare, and 2. most likely to agree with furry community criticism lol.

      • nothing wrong with age play one bit. it’s natural and kind of fucking funny. i’m not offended by much on the internet. everything fun in sl is banned. double entendre.

      • Only pedophiles think that ageplay is “natural”. Thanks for reminding us you’re a worthless piece of shit this week; we almost got to forget.

      • keeps the compliments coming man i appreciate them. nope an avatar cannot be a child never has and never will. an avatar doesn’t have a soul. it does what it wants how it wants without care. anyone who deems an avatar as a child is highly above stupid. if it’s their and it’s offered why can’t i appreciate what an avatar can do? clearly you don’t know the fundamentals of virtual worlds. virtual world is not reality. it’s a world created by humans do too what you want how you want without consequence. keep reality out of sl pedophiles don’t exist.

      • FUCK OFF. There is 100% something wrong with ageplay if it means playing someone under 18.

        I don’t care if a 30 year old wants to pretend to be an 18 character, but the moment it turns underaged it’s sick and you are as sick as they come.

      • it’s not your avatar too judge. it’s my avatar. i don’t get it. a human plays 30 or 18 but not under 18. that’s kind of retarded. avatar equality. i guess you’re a dumb one. avatars cannot be children. the only thing that disgusts me is kinks that involve feces, and urine, vomiting and or other . no just no. i only see the avatar nothing else nothing more. you say your 12 but you’re not.

      • So you ran a sim and dealt with furry ageplay every day, and you were running a shop too for 10 years making furry content, but now you hate it?! Woow what a fascinating life, I’m going to go ahead and believe all that at face value because you posted it anonymously here in VS!  🙄 

      • Yes. And I ain’t the only one.
        If you wanna believe your community is flawless and innocent, you can keep telling yourself that, but no one else sees it.

  72. #33 Wonder how long it would take for you to figure out that maybe you are just too basic ?

    I am not one of her customers, never used any of her stuff but as a creator I can tell you that what she sells is art. Not all art sells.
    Good sales are dependent on usability for the masses and that does not in any way imply that her work is any less worthy or any less magnificent than the bestselling products of her market .

    I believe you ought to give her the respect she is due for her creativity and hard work she puts in. You do not have the qualifications to act judgmental, definitely not with your very normative tastes.

    “Normality is a paved road: It’s comfortable to walk, but no flowers grow on it.”

    ― Vincent van Gogh

    • In case it wasn’t crystal clear, I am calling the OP basic. You need to give due respect to original creators even if you are not a fan of their style of work.

  73. #24 I’ve been saying this same thing. Cmon now, it’s cute hair but no, for those prices.

    • Agreed I went to try a few things at Access today and came across their hair it looked super cute but it rubbed me the total wrong way that the different hair options n accessories were in the fatpack option only.

  74. #35 went all out for that drawing. So who got promoted and attention over OP that they decided to draw this Picasso in anger.

    To the folks hating on the squish everything: Do yourself a favor, derender people, it is easier and less time consuming than making a secret.

  75. #1 I’m not saying I condone this; but I haven’t encountered a tattoo maker in SL that doesn’t steal/copy/paste the images. It’s essentially full body collages of stolen artwork.
    So, she’s not unique.

  76. 15# Disaster waiting to happen. Ah, it’s another thing they can laugh about when complaints get posted here after the “Contact Us” they’re trying to promote will get ignored.

  77. #13 What’s the problem, exactly? Literally all other shopping events are human-focused, God forbid there’s one that has more furry accessories than human accessories. There are plenty other shopping events if you’re that desperate for another full-body tattoo or fleshy horns.

  78. #30 The furry hate is real. With a doll, please tell us where did the furries touched you?

      • Duh, but no one asks you to demonstrate on the doll how it happened if you’re an adult. Nice try though.

      • yeah so why can’t we like virtually rape things if they’re not a living minority. who says we can’t fuck what we want. why do we have too have virtual labels? avatar sex and naming an avatar a child are clearly dumb. pedophilia involves only real kids not fake over age 18 plus kids. well my virtual world my virtual treat. rules or not if it’s their we can fuck it end of.

      • You know the reason why.

        source: former sim staff who had to deal with a different furry pedo every other week

      • So why aren’t all the secrets here about furry pedos? They’re exclusively about pedos with human avatars. Really makes ya think. 🤔 

      • I mean, do you WANT me to start posting about furry pedos? Because I have a long, long list.

        But “X is a pedophile, beware” isn’t very juicy content. I doubt most people care.

      • No go ahead, because I’m about 99% certain you’re a terminally mad, whiny little bitch boy making it up. Go for it slugger.

      • Did you just assume my gender? Omfg. Was the name “Bossbitch” not clear enough?!?!???!?!!?

        My pronouns are she/her/hoe. Do better 👏

      • You’re a dude. I won’t be calling you by your pronouns, you can cry to your discord support group/twitter but I’m not changing my stance on that. Also there’s only two genders, and to be a female you have to have a functioning womb.

      • Way to insult the plethora of biological females that don’t have a functioning womb. Noice.

      • LMAO please do tell, how exactly do you know my sex? Entertain me, I’m curious.
        I wasn’t aware that my massive fucking (non-furry) wiener was visible in my comments. Please point me to this so I can cover up and hide my obscenity? Thank you.

        My womb’s pretty damn functioning, unfortunately. If you want it I’m entertaining monetary offers. No lowballs.

      • This sounds really bad even for you though. You can’t be assuming people’s gender just like that. ._. What proof you have the user is a male? The user could be a female, a non-binary, or even a trans. Yet you disapprove of who she is because you assume she is “male”. Misogyny and transphobic thoughts coming from you? Not a good look.

      • Is it Alyx? Because I heard Alyx tried to get into multiple woman’s pants and even tried to get into men’s pants when he announced he was bicurious. And both men and women weren’t interested.

      • Oh Alyx definitely got around. All while dating someone irl! Haiden, Celeste, Queenie Pancake, Revel (I thought she had a fiancé or something irl?), RavenSkye, and who knows who else. From what I observed he tried to fuck any and everything. Some of those names were supposed to be kept on the low but Paradox can’t keep her mouth shut LOL

    • if you play guilt by association it leads to isolation and lack or representation.

    • I don’t think it’s furry hate.I think there really is a legit problem of letting really bad people in the community. If you allow bad people in, expect people to bring you concerns and problems about said people to protect the community. And none of the feds are acknowledging the problem is there.

      • None of the feds have had anyone bring anything to their attention about anyone that’s a problem.. It’s literally the same person vaguebooking here for attention. They got mad someone didn’t kiss their ass the right way. If there were a LEGITIMATE issue, wouldn’t you think someone would step up and speak to someone who could do something about it instead of just yeeting a post here? As it stands, the shows go on, the people in the community help one another, and it seems pretty stable. All this mess feels like someone who can’t let the past go.

    • If they really had a problem, they would voice who the problem is with instead of being vague.. Someone somewhere got banned for being a dick and now they’re pissy about it and whining here XD

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