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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.
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TalkToTheHand says
55: club511 is nothing but 511 fucking bots spamming random gestures. Disgrace.
um says
11) Guess who cares? no one
:-) says
what if i cared…there will always be someone who cares. peace and love <3
TCW_fan says
20. Says something about your small minded approach to SL then. Yes people go there to fuck, but others want parties and more. Well done to Kaige for keeping things fresh and fun, keep ’em coming.
Oh, and its Kaige, Arden and Chantelle’s club too btw. Great ladies, great club.
Smokejumper says
17. Azure is the Dj at all her boring events because she uses the linden to buy things for all her Alts
Major Yikes says
#38 This a site about secrets, drama and exposing people. If you want positive messages and inspirational quotes etc., don’t come here, dumbass.
;;0 says
kys 😉
Hello?! says
33. “Wow, Tres Beau is always involved in drama!!! Always posting stuff on SL Secrets” I can’t believe you guys are that dumb. Lory takes care of her store alone without the help of anyone, and surprisingly, she manages to be more creative than 90% of other stores in the same industry. Do you think she wastes her time posting this kind of stuff here? It just helps to promote the other person’s business, it causes interest in the people involved, and she would in no way help promote anyone, let alone Lidia Dallas’ Tutti Belli. If I’m not mistaken, even the name Tutti Belli means the same as Tres Beau, only in Italian. This girl has no creativity for anything. Again, STOP THINKING that prominent store creators post stuff here! The smaller stores involved in the drama are the ones to publish it here only to gain a larger audience and money. IT’S A MARKETING STRATEGY!
blah says
they literally just did a collab together
Hello?! says
where?
sloppycvnt says
stop defending lory we all know her fame. every week she is here messing around with other creators just because her moment is over and there are better people on the market. just saying. tres beau skins are always the same it seems like copy and paste lol
SCPReject says
#4
It’s hilarious to call all the stuff towards Anima and especially Soko “Harassment”. Especially since Soko was busted for being a Virtual Dog-Fucker after accusing another creator for being a virtual dog-fucker. Too bad the other creator had picture evidence of Soko’s degeneracy, oops.
Everything Soko and Psi get they deserve in full for the fake as fuck moral grandstanding. Biggest fucking hypocrites you can find.
Your bitterness is showing says
#6 He’s a sociopath for not wanting to be with you? Get over yourself, he had a better option. Someone hotter and better then you sweetie. Someone without trauma and all the red flags you bring to the table. You were never going to satisfy him, try losing 100 pounds and get a face lift your jealousy is showing. While you’re here crying to people who don’t care he’s off with his new boyfriend girly. Move on or get help please.
not your battle says
At least I’m not defending a narcissist who is in love with himself and treats others with a lack of empathy. Have you ever heard the term beautiful on the outside but not on the inside? Keep fighting his battles for him. That doesn’t give you any brownie points. I doubt he cares about this and is using you while he sits back. He will still treat you the same when you have no use for him. He loves himself and only himself. This boyfriend is not any better, considering he was dating him IRL while he was still with her. Do you know why he said he didn’t want to be with her? He said he was a 10 and she was a 4. How narcissistic of an explanation is that?
sis says
I had to stop and read your comment, sis i spit out my tea!! You had my girlfriends and me dyingggg. 😂 😂 You’re fighting and defending a man who ran off with another man!! Ain’t no man here lookin at these comments, men don’t care about these things. You’re are doin all this and wasting time for a man who doesn’t even want a woman!! You must be dumb as hell 😂 😂 😂
A says
16. It’s called universal layers. Get with the times
sloppycvnt says
2.there is a block and mute option for a reason.show friends only also helps. there was no need to cry about it here.
3.he dodged a bullet not trusting you with any secrets if you automatically come on here to shout about it.you sound like a whole red flag all about yourself in the first place.stfu and leave him and that door closed.
10.simple.dont rp with them.got to other rp sims.quit SL.so many solutions.
11.not a bad idea. takes away from having to deal with rl stupid clingy people.keep on fucking brohoe.
15.meshing things is hard enough but when creators shit on bloggers that help spread their merchandise to other people across social medias is just leaving you behind in the rat race of capitalism.you need others that are popular enough to brag about how good your shitty creations are.
22.she has to make money somehow.even if it means recycled models people will no doubt buy them anyway.
29.avatars look like that on my viewer when their complexity is too high.it could be the ugly out of date flexy and prim users with ridiculous high numbers.pro SL tip:keep it under 120k complexity.
48.both of them look dope.where can i copy paste it from so i can make my own for 10L?
SO WHHHHAAAAAT says
25. So what? women have one men can have one too. Every one copies someone in Second life get over it.
kyleFrost says
BREAKING toS is fun anyone want to join the party.
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DietCoke says
#19 catfishing narcissist would have been fine as being self obsessed is a part of narcissism. Have a good day and good luck with… all that.
Buttons says
Why the hell are GoT roleplayers so fucking concerned if other people have sex in their roleplay? Why are there so many weird controlling rules around other folks fuckin in their free time?
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
Given the amount of sex and violence in the shows and books, it makes no sense to me.
Uh says
That is a good question.
Blaise Glendevon says
The books are peculiarly focused on the virginity of the female characters for the purposes of dynastic marriage. They are also full of female characters whose children are not sired by the man who has the legal right to do so, so I assume people are snoopy so they can try and metagame.
Buttons says
Then it should be their business in character, not out of character.
I get what you mean though. It seems those people don’t seperate the two.
N'O says
30
WORST COPY /WTF
LadySoraya Ruby / LSR Originals
https://gyazo.com/0462172e21c02b496d73252cc8df632c
WHAT??????????????????????????????????Lol.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
LSR is a garbage store full of trash clothes, even worse than Scandalize.
smash reward says
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Make their own roster? Do you mean the time Dante pushed away so many people they had to go make TFW? Or the time he pushed away HALF his roster that they had to go make VW? Or the time he STILL kept pushing people away and they had to go make DAW?
This guy is such a bad CEO that he split UFW on THREE different occasions! (Or 5 times if you want to count Peewee and FWF)
personnel in practice says
The assholes at VW walked away because they want to make UFW their voice of spreading woke nonsense to people who are 1. don’t care about their issues. 2. Are politically inactive 3. people who just don’t agree with them. 4. so they can get that sweet public support for nothing. look where it got them no where. So it’s not Dante. it was the fact Rocco trusted a group of lunatics to wrestle in a federation only for rocco to have to build it back with wood planks and a few screws despite holding it with bubble gum and tape.Lets not forget many who was driven away was associated with trying to live with the Panes,getting close with birdy, trying to be cool with sylvania square, and have been there for years. after math well Cammy admitting to having to live with Saffy(knowing what she has that could up end the furry sl community if she admits it.),theres no writers in UFW (not saying who but they went away with being homeless and in a hospital for psychiatric issues.), people losing access to moves only for the very guy who birdy was having a fit over to lose his wrestling gig because of relationship issues.(not saying anything about that) and Alyx being caught with so many things not even I can list here.(remember if you get on his bad side your fucked.) all the people who would fuck you over in slpw have been known to be scumbags all the time yet Dante is at fault? No its the fact that lack of awareness of whats going on behind the scenes even if you were staff is at fault for this. AKA Cancel Culture as well as nepotism among staff is at fault. Staff that show the least nepotism are the ones who are close with Vee,new comers, and those who haven’t gotten too close with the panes and TWF or even just stayed neutral. But no blame Dante when it came out the birds mouth that someone else would want your ass gone from the FED and Dante obliges because he doesn’t want another “taco bell gate” or drama to happen again. TFW was made because pounce needed a wrestling federation to populate their club now it took a massive toll on their ass.So sit there and keep posting about UFW and how much of Dantes dick you wanna suck and go touch grass and dirt.
Salty Much? says
Let’s see here:
Rants about everyone else. makes constant excuses. Ignores everything someone’s done and pin it all entirely on others. Rip on Alyx, The Panes, Pounce, and Rocco with anonymity?
Dante, if you’re going to post here. At least make it less obvious.
personnel in practice says
Not Dante try again Twinkie muncher the truth is even if there was no Dante you still see the same shit except you’ll be more blind than you can ever imagine to it.
No one knows about a certain information that I came across. wanna know why the panes are still at UFW? Dante doesn’t know about a certain record hidden at their place and it’s best no one knows if you don’t wanna have the world you knew burn right before you.
smash reward says
“The Panes have some so horrible, so terrible, so awful that it will destroy EVERYTHING!!!!”
“Oh no! Can we see it?”
“U-u-um…. no.”
TOPOTAMADRE says
37. LEMPIKA ORIGINAL MESH YES, THE OTHER BOOTS ARE FULL PERM THAT LEMPIKA SOLD, RIDICULOUS.
FvckYoFeelings says
(41)Honestly who tf cares he did his grimey shyt.. if you throw any stones go throw em at that lyin grimey foul mfka who shitted on his girl and frat bros. let my niece b great and keep ya mouth of my sons in that frat….
Laughing at You says
#31
Boo hoo! Times change, products change. Should I be whinging because I can’t use all the clothes I bought back in the system avi days?
love and fear says
#24 FACTS
#33 TRES BEAU AGAIN?
#57 WHAT????????????????????????????????????????????????
Hot Sauce says
3. It’s second life. Not everyone wants to have a relationship that bleeds into real life. The person you were with should have told you that, so you wouldn’t have expectations of them sharing personal information. Also, sometimes when people share their innermost stuff it ends up being blasted in various places like… oh hai Virtual Secrets. I don’t give out my name or send real life pics… I don’t want some stalker blackmailing me or threatening me with my own information. You might not be like the others, (lol, alright alright alright!) but no one can ever truly know that, because people usually react pretty shitty when relationships fall apart and that’s when the hateful stuff starts.
5. But who is she? Maybe she likes being called a cunt.
11. Okay but can we watch?
14. That’s great but who’s gonna know the truth if you don’t drop a name?
15. I always like seeing what bloggers do with pics. Some even manage to make shitty stuff look great, and then I try it on and I’m like… damn that was some fancy photoshoppin skills.
16. Does it really matter? We can layer like 63…64 layers.
17. We all know Cedar Creek is shit, when ya’ll gonna stop bitchin bout it?
18. Lol. Expecting SL to fix things is funny.
19. Not a fan of Doux. Super rare to find an unrigged version that I can adjust for a lelutka head and I don’t change the general shape of the head where the hair fits out the box, so I feel like there’s some fuckery there.
23. If they only sell a bom thing in black, then why set it for modify? You gonna sharpie it up? I get that you want modify stuff but on body skins and whatnot I don’t really see the point. Plus someone could modify a skin JUST enough maybe that the original creator can’t file a DMCA against them and that would suck.
24. I don’t know where you’re shopping but all the stores I shop at include ear demos.
25. Nobody cares, it’s clearly a different mesh. I doubt they were scrolling through flickr and were like, sure lemme copy this bitch.
28. Yes that’s a real thing but you gotta remember, it’s also second life. Some people just want an online thing and they can and will do what the fuck ever they want in real life. If your boyfriend/girlfriend is messing with other people and not saying no, they’re also the problem. Stop blaming other people for your boyfriend’s/girlfriend’s actions. If they didn’t want to fuck anyone else or talk to anyone else, they wouldn’t.
29. So tell them and explain how complexity works, or don’t set yours as low as you possibly can.
30. Don’t care. It’s a different mesh. Different sleeves, different ways to fasten the dress, different garters, one has strings on the sides and the other one doesn’t. Much of what is in SL is real life inspired anyway.
31. Um… okay. So Lelutka heads have a different UV mapping system. You need a face skin that’s made specifically for Lelutka Evo X or Lelutka Classic (they both use different UV maps, with the Classic being the standard that everyone uses and the Evo X being basically a new, HD version of mapping that makes stuff easier for creators to make things for) Stores that make face skins will have body skins specific for the body you’re wearing, or they will tell you what skin store has a body skin that is COMPATIBLE with your face skin. There’s also neck fades which most stores provide for free or for a small fee. Lelutka also has a discord for help issues, so rather than learning about the head and slamming it on VS, why not go ask the great customer service people that they have and learn about the product you bought.
35. Uh yeah? It will say in the land description what kind of region you’re going to. There’s plenty of places that do sex stuff in typey chat only. Also some that’s just mindless poseballs. Gotta explore more yo. Also check virtual secret number 20, seems like that person owns a sex region.
37. Could be stolen, could be a mesh they bought online from a mesher.
38. I appriciate them too. So much negativity here!
40. Their clothes never fit right without having to alpha the fuck out of them. Really not great at rigging.
46. Silvia thinks she’s God’s gift to the SL shopping circuit. She has her fav designers that give her whatever she wants for free that she’s buddies with just so they’ll get good spots at her shitty events. No one is equal, and she will 100% shit talk all the creators behind their backs and giggle about them being wrapped around her fingers. Plenty other events to get into and get featured at.
48. If you have a problem with it send a notecard to the person you think the original creator is and let them deal with it. Most tattoos are ripped right off google search, maybe they both did that.
50. Okay but then what else would half these people post about? It’s VS. Juicy, juicy VS. I mean you’re here so you must like something about it.
51. So that’s probably from an online mesh shop that everyone decided to buy because it looked wickedly good. Literally doesn’t matter. If you don’t like it don’t buy it.
55. Most clubs are toxic. this ain’t nothin new.
56. You forgot to ask about the shape, eyes, makeup, and skin enhancements!
57. Okay so it’s a black van. Could be for like… handymen/handywomen/work related roleplay? If it said free candy I’d probably check it out. Might die, but… I really like candy!
58. Yes! Sometimes just the male casual stuff would be great in female sizes because it’s not slutty, and is just… casual. Relaxing. Doesn’t look brand new. Semller has some beat up converse for female sizes, and sometimes they’re in the weekend sales.
Lol all these posts about the wrestling bullshit. Nobody cares. What’s with all the furry hate? Ya’ll not enjoying kiwi farms enough and are glamping on over to VS? xD Since when are we the mesh police? If you think something is stolen, tell the person who created the “original” and they’ll deal with it how they see fit, and don’t buy the stolen version. Simple.
Idk says
Hi. OP of 3 here. For context we were meant to meet up IRL and take this off of SL, so it was nothing like you mentioned above although that does ring true for a lot of situations but not ours. Our relationship in total lasted nearly two years, so it wasn’t a quick relationship. I put a lot of time and effort into it, and they did to an extent. We spent a lot of time together and they expressed that they wanted to be together outside of SL and online, and if we clicked IRL we would then continue the relationship and even move in together. They expressed this numerous times, and came clean about some relationship altering (for some but I was able to look past it because I genuinely cared for them) “secrets” that nobody knew but me. They asked of me things I was hesitant on due to my own past experiences of rejection but they could not turn around and do the same thing in return, it gave me catfish vibes more than anything, because certain things added up and some other things did not, Also worth mentioning the lies for dramatic purposes and to cause a stir in the relationship got to be too much. I ended the relationship and a long Facebook post was made about wasting time and how I was this and that, I never spoke up about it publicly because I still respect and care about the person I was with, but I feel like their words didn’t match their actions. Rather that being due to low self esteem or maybe they talked a big game. I’m not sure. All I know is, I’m never doing LDR, and especially on SL ever again,
Spectator says
You’re here blasting in SL secrets about this person, which makes it more evident why they probably didn’t trust you enough to share any private information. The vibes you are giving look like red flags. I wouldn’t trust sharing personal information with someone who likes to gossip; I can see why this person probably didn’t trust to take it further. I’m not validating anyone, but from where I’m sitting, you continue to call this person out for being guilty of things that might not be true in SL secrets, makes you seem like a big red flag and attention seeker. Spreading misinformation that people will use against this person seems like you are hurting and trying to hurt them by slandering their image while masking it as asking for validation. They probably dodged a bullet not giving you their personal information. Not everyone who hides personal information online is a catfish; some people who have been previously hurt or betrayed sometimes need more time to open up. In my relationship, we didn’t share private information until one year; we took our time getting to know each other, and it made me feel safer, It’s not for everyone, and my partner was patient enough with me to give me that time. It looks to me that you are reaching for excuses for reasons this person probably didn’t want to be with you. It could be as simple as they weren’t interested anymore and didn’t want it to go further or were dating someone else in RL; this happens a lot here; welcome to SL dating.
Pepper Pig says
Some stores actually do a very good job with templates. Others just buy the latest full perm stuff, slap on the textures provided in the template kit, tint them into 100 colors and sell for like 99L.
Nothing wrong with using templates if you can make the finished product look unique and high quality.
SLifer says
Totally agree. Texturing is quite a talent on its own. Most of the big brands hire people just for texturing. There are hundreds using templates but few that really are really successful doing it because there is 100% skill involved.
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
Like I commented a few weeks ago, I buy templates just for me to make stuff for me most of the time. I know some of the things I want I’d either never find because they’re niche fandoms or I would never want anyone to try to sell because I know it’s not their art, and I couldn’t feel morally right buying that from someone.
Taylor Guffey says
#17 Azure isn’t the only member of the event team and her events tend to have a nice gathering. Events are held at different days all the time so not sure where you are coming from.
You ain't shit either. says
8- She’ll be back under a different username and opening another store under a different name. But one thing about store owners like that” zebra never changes his stripes”.
Idk says
Sure. Come back to this comment in a year and compare stores,
Santaaaaaaaaaaaa says
#15, Nobody give a fuck with your stupid blog really, you don’t make SL with that
NiniMini says
#22 I thinking David Cooper should consider designing vintage hair from the 1920s-1960s. I think his hair is great, but I think he could go a more vintage route, IMO.
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
I’d buy the shit out of that. The closest he currently has is Madonna which kinda looks like Farrah Fawcett circa Charlie’s Angels.
Ickyspot says
Doux needs to get with the times and start using bom hair instead of outdated appliers.
blah says
What the fuck is BOM hair? Please explain because right now that entire statement says you are an idiot
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
Exactly what it says on the tin. Hair that uses BOM for coloring. Aii + Ego has some super long gorgeous hairs out right now that use that.
blah says
nope doesn’t. a HUD tints and changes the colors on the MESH..try researching a little more on what trying to boost and explain.
Ickyspot says
You’re an idiot and aii and ego are using bom hair that doesn’t glitch with HD appliers. It’s fucking gorgeous.
blah says
that’s not BOM hair wow. Its alpha texture hair MESH. They added a “hair/browbase” layer that has sliders set to cover the areas that alpha textures glitch at. Again, let me clarify, that is NOT BOM hair. The hair is a mesh object attachment. And you can do the same with ANY hair by editing the sliders under style tab of your eyebrow using
So yes keep going with it. The one and ONLY BOM hair is the ruth hair that is within same layer using for brow shaping which gasps is exactly what’s in the Aii hair package and you can wear the hair mesh only with zero difference without any of the other items included. But glad to see you are so gullible and lack of basic creator/build knowledge just jump right on that wagon
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Thank YOU, that whole idea of “BOM hair” was so stupid I couldn’t even bring myself to address it. Like if that was a real thing, it would pick up our baked scalp and neck textures to cover the mesh hair ones. It definitely wouldn’t be anything anyone would want lol
Just Passing Through says
While I agree, they are marketing it as BOM hair. I haven’t checked it out yet.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/aiipie/52407219010/in/datetaken/
#Truth says
#58 How about people just open up more high quality stores for Men to shop at period. There are Men who like to dress themselves too and have Linden to spend like my SL partner he spends most of his lindens on me because there are VERY few places that are of good quality and rigging for him. He buys a top he likes it clips with 98% of every pair of pants he owns and has to buy new ones from that creator and vice versa. It limits his mix and matching options.
Also, as a woman and not to be anti-anything but a lot of Men’s clothing is very flamboyant, unattractive, or thuggish and not for my man’s tastes and styles there needs to be more variety. He is not afraid to spend the linden on clothes, he spends more money on tatto’s from Dappa and Corazon and new Jewlery than he does clothes, almost.
Blaise Glendevon says
He could always learn how to create and open up his own shop. Every content creator I’ve ever heard from in SL has said that compared to clothing rigged for women’s bodies, content rigged for men is a dead loss. Especially generic clothing that is rigidly gender conforming. Masculine-presenting people just don’t buy enough clothes to make it worth their while.
#Truth says
Except as being in Upper Management he works 60 + hours a week in RL and our family time in rl makes time online together limited so that is not an option. There are more men than you realize who might want to spend some linden on clothing. Not everyone wants to wear the same pair of jeans, no shirt and the same pair of shoes.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
You’re not reading what Blaise said. Yes, I’m sure we all know a few men who really want a more extensive wardrobe- I certainly do- but over the greater SL population, most people using male avatars are perfectly happy to wear the same outfit or few outfits pretty much ad infinitum, and rarely shop at all unless prodded by a partner. If it’s not worth the time and effort to make, creators aren’t going to do it. The only way to get more creators making things for men is for men to keep consistently spending more money on themselves, but as we know it can be hard finding things they want to buy, and then we end up right back here. All he can do is look harder, spend more, and spread the word about good creators of male body things so that others also go and buy that stuff- which means he can’t be childishly stressing out about other people wearing his same outfit. Even if he buys every release, he’s still only one customer, a drop in the bucket compared to the time and effort required to create and texture original meshes. Create a market, and it will be serviced.
Common Sense says
Not everyone of them is Upper Management. And I say this as someone that works in tech and earns over 100k a year. I’ve been sl partnered to an engineer and to an rl VP of a bank. They never spent more than 40 dollars a year in SL.
A brand in SL works on mesh not for hobby, mesh is a much more difficult system to work with than sculpts/ sl prims. They usually are already in the creative field, or have mesh experience. Some even create in other games as well. They aren’t going to waste their time to make toward men that budget their sl income much more closely than females.
Ask your partner, how much he’s willing to spend in a year for SL clothing. Most often than not, it is not going to be more than 100 bucks. That’s not profitable. Stores need him to put forth about 20 bucks a month. And unfortunately, most guys do not spend that much, and if they do they go for land and other things within SL.
Pee Wee Squirmin says
If you are working +60 hours a week in a upper management rl job. Second life is an afterthought.
Laughing at You says
If most of what I see at events wasn’t geared towards Team Rainbow or Thug Life, I’d buy a hell of a lot more than I do. And I have 100+ some saved outfits at the moment.
Blaise Glendevon says
Once you have one bland khakis and polo shirt, how many do you need?
Laughing At You. says
The answer to that is zero.
Common Sense says
So a little comment here: I own over 300k in inventory and I am a woman, but the majority of pants/skirts/tops/jackets clip with items that are not from that store. And sometimes, even items from that store clip. That’s not a men only problem. That is a problem with the SL rigging process in general.
Now, here’s the kicker here which you fail to understand. Content creators do not make clothes for the most part just to spend hours on end on a hubby that doesn’t at least break somewhat even in their time spent. The vast majority of SL men, do not shop. I’ve gone to countless sims, and I look at them. They buy three outfits one year, and that outfit is used for three years. Why would a creator make something if they are literally going to make maybe 20 bucks a month at most?
Men whine, and yet for the most part only a fraction of the male population spends in clothing. I’ve met countless sl men in sl, and the vast majority (95%) as I’ve owned clubs, and a sim. I can tell you that they rarely change their outfits. So what’s the point of a creator making for them if they themselves are always in 1 Deadwool suit, or one Deadwool shirt for a full year?
Oh we do shop, just more picky. says
Hey C.Sense,
you’re only ‘partly’ right in your reply to #Truth,
Yes, in general, we gents don’t shop nearly as much as you ladies do. And I think that’s a well-established fact in SL (& RLalike). Ofc there be some honourable exceptions, and then there is Team Rainbow. (always puzzled how many jockstraps these boys possibly need https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f609.svg ).
Then this is where you’re wrong tho:
By your explanation Masa Plympton (Deadwool) wouldn’t make a dime. But oh boy he does! In volume only very few other designers do. There is always someone at his store. Despite he’s not cheap- but on the upper price edge. How?
He not only makes what we want(!), he also makes unparalleled, f*ing awesome, quality. Fullstop!
– Which frankly, most of them whining designers only can dream of, cuz they’re shit!
So the few times, we guys bring ourselves to actually shop (mostly due a nagging gurl), we don’t mind the dime getting a fatpack:
3.290,- L$ for DW Sean Jacket Fatpack
2.990,- L$ for DW Sean trousers Fatpack
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6280 Lindens = That’s for the suit alone 30,- USD very happily spent. With perfect fit & textures.
To that add now the shoes, shirts, shorts, T-shirt, Sweater, a baseball cap, beach tank, and swim trunks. Next we getting the hoodie pack and jeans from Cold Ash. That’s a few hundred USD!
Then Blaise Glendevon is right on this one: How many khakis a guy need?
Meaning, yes- once we got our basics, we’re good for a few years. That’s also just common sense.
We still pay for it though.
Facit: until designers learn what we actually want, as boring we might be (and not what they think we want- big difference) – and learn to make it in the same quality that Masa Plympton steadily delivers, we bring our coin to Deadwool, very happily.
Notthatitmatters says
#15 it’s laughable that you really think more effort and time goes into blogging than creating, creating takes more skill and time than blogging EVER will. The problem here is people claiming items to blog them and then never blogging them and then just having the items for free.
#23 you are not entitled to be able to modify someone else’s creation if they do not want you to modify it, if you don’t like it how it comes already then just don’t buy it at all.
Santaaaaaaaaaaaa says
#15 I totally agree with you, and creators make SL, bloggers, with or without it will be the same, bloggers aren’t important at all, without them, SL will not change:
Lurking as Usual says
“Bloggers” weren’t even a thing back when I first started creating. Us creators got on just fine without them. I still think they’re just wannabes who want some kind of popularity without actually having talent, and leeching free items of course.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
They are completely unnecessary. Any creator who has a Flickr account they keep up to date with their new releases and info doesn’t need one, interested people can just follow that. I bet anything the return on investment based on the regular price of the things they give away doesn’t come out ahead.
Clueless says
.You are completely missing the point of this. If 40 people take get an item and no one wants to blog it clearly it’s not an item that anyone has interest in. Bloggers are not taking items to get free things, i can guarantee you that quality bloggers do not even wear the items after blogging because they are always getting new things to blog. You clearly are clueless on blogging and the entire point of this posting.
NO where does it say it’s more effort to blog then create, so stop pulling shit out of your ass to try to make a point that is not even relevant. Quality blogging IS a skill, shame this concept is way too complex for you.
L.C says
I been living in Cedar for some months now, I been to some events, and I had a blast, great music, nice set up, everybody is chatty and friendly, looking forward to what cedar has in the coming future
Cheeky brekkie says
Its funny, people diss other peoples Djing skills, Not everyone is a Super Star Mix dj, some use programs like SamBroadcaster, a litaral radio dj software, you think actual radio dj’s are mixing? who cares? as long as you are enjoying the music.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
I don’t know where you live, but my local hip hop station does have hours where they live mix, and they are the best part of the day. Sorry that’s not happening in East Bum Fuck, Midwest.
G247 says
Azure’s events are mediocre
OHNAHNAHNAHNAH says
like your moms bj’s
Pee Wee Squirmin says
Have you been to the end of the month gang bang?
NotGray says
#29 They’re walking around gray on your screen because you have to fix your complexity settings
Automotonotonoton says
#25. Wow what an original idea Yomi had that’s never been done before by anyone ever. Not to mention that the ‘copycat’ here is made for male tids when the Yomi wasn’t. Fwiw I like both.
#31. I think you need to check your layer orders. Or get tats that work with the version of LeL you’re using (evo vs evox)
Cedars Creeks Finest Citizen says
#17 It seems like Azure lives rent free in your head, her events are fun, creative and it brings the town together and they have fun, and that’s all that matters, she is the sweeties, kindest woman I had the pleasure to meet, keep up the good work honey bunny.
G247 says
Azure does not have creative events.
Just a student says
Oh sure…but during when the only club in town holds their events.. some how her personal events… are ALWAYS during those times…targeted much?
Reaper says
lol
Veritaserum says
I’m not sure which Cedar Creek you want to represent but certainly, given the number of dislikes, not the current one. Azure was a decent character in Fox Hollow, Cedar Creek … maybe a diva hungry for attention and nothing more. very annoying and trivial events
Mananumah says
One of the reasons we left was the stranglehold around the events that a group of people have in that town. They don’t want “outsiders” running their own events.
G247 says
It is the same event over again. There is nothing creative about any of her events. She doesn’t switch up the DJ. It’s herself every time. Kai Reign does the same thing. Events were better before them. The movie nights are a waste. A movie every week is boring.
JustanObserver says
#50 Well said but isn’t that all this site is? A bunch of keyboard warriors with nothing better to do? If nothing else it’s entertainment 😂 Let’s see how many go postal on this comment LOL.
#Truth says
#50 #52 @ Everyone in Ravnos. Especially ηιgнт ʜғ ʀɑѵɛɳᴡᴜʟғ Rανησѕ™
xƝιηJα Rуσʂiη
Ƙi Rуσʂհiη
Ϯ Jєѕѕι Pöɳʈεʋεččɨö Rανησѕ Ϯ
Ϯ Eva Ravnos Ϯ
Those are some of the worst of the worst of Ravnos, they are not your friends and don’t drink the Kool-aid I promise you my now Rogue House was in there for a brief time. We are much better off and most of them are some of the biggest psycho, misogynistic in how the men speak to women in SL, narcissistic, join us or we will bury you and slander you, treat you like a friend but talk shit about you behind your back, assclowns to ever play SL.
You should all just say no. They Definitely don’t care about you, or your feelings and they are like Burger King and McDonalds. They Want it their way and be lovin’ it too.
lol says
#haters #make #me #famous
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Fucking christ boomer, this site doesn’t aggregate hashtags and even if it did, you’re using them wrong. Stick to what you know.
#Truth says
LOL well they are not the brightest bunch, or should I say the brightest bulb in the box.
The sharpest tool in the shed.
The elevator does not go to the top floor.
Most in PV know their mascot is Forest Gump. “Life is like box if chocolates, you never know what you gonna get!”
Nightwolf is Mamma Jessi’s extra special one for sure. One you push away the fat, use the magnifying glass and tweezers to find it and close your eyes and put it in your mouth…..he will take care of you with Lindens and what not and tell you everything about Ravnos, and PV. He is another one who don’t keep secrets well if you bang him.
Not my monkeys says
Hes the best liar in sl too, harrasser, stalker and big fat pest
Get to know us says
The hate is real with this one. Someone must have pissed in your Cherios.. Sorry, you didn’t fit into a wonderful clan of people you obviously didn’t get to know. You only cried about Night, Ninja and Jessi. Keep the crying up, stop whining, and challenge people in world? Are you afraid of that? I think you are. Talking trash about peoples RL situation and body shaming them only shows how shallow you are. You probably have no idea what kind of struggle each and everyone person in SL are going through. You only think.. “wow that MF’er slayed me! oh no, they slayed my friends.. crap my family is dying!.. let me go post something on VS to satisfy my anger and be hidden behind a computer monitor. You’re a waste of space, and not really worth my attention, but I also believe in civility and getting my point across. You sound like you’re the one that wants attention. Why don’t you confront us in world? Maybe we can sit around a camp fire and talk it out. Anyways, Calm your tits. I’m sure someone in your family will be slayed. Than you can come and hide behind the secrets and post more BS.
watching you from the shadows says
You know the one thing I love about this is the fact that I made you so mad that you took the time to post here and not only that but you made up lies. it makes me so happy! I’ll see you on the grid.
lollol says
#haters_make_us_famous
lol says
Keep hating sweetheart lol #haters_make_us_famous thanks for the free publicity!
Not my monkeys says
assholes that think they are famous in sl hahahahahahahaha
Another SL Shadow says
Sounds to me like someone didn’t get what they wanted? Salt content is really high in this post. Might want to do something about that. Ravnos is one of the most tight knit, stand together, support each other family on the grid. But hey, you have a right to be wrong. Keep saying the name, you’re just making us all more famous
#Truth says
We got what we wanted when we learned that you were exactly what everyone warned us about lmao. I shared gyazo’s of the convos of the warnings about an ex member with MANY people who got Night, Ninja, Jessi, Succubus, Aser and everyone else and you blamed it on you know who that it was his fault you all got banned for the 72 pages Jessi still complains about to this day in COL discord and more that he made you all do it and he started it.
Everyone knows Ninja and Night were notorious for doing it, Ninja did it in Ravnos before. Night did it in Blackburn and then AdE before getting back into Ravnos.
Nightwolf, I have a doc folder with so many gyazo’s and screenshots of convos with your name and ravnos in there I am just sitting on for the right moment with things you all have said, accused and so forth. It will make the National Enquirer look like the NY Times. 🙂 I am banking on you to all think otherwise. I especially like the convo Night where you told Shiloh to take a clothes hangar to herself so she could not reproduce in rl. I am definitely saving that one. You act like you’re a real Daddy Dom. I seen your RL picture your ex’s have spead it around lmao. Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers and Nutri-System might pay you to be their client and lose 200 or 300 pounds bro. You’re not god’s gift to shit. Stop hitting up your ex’s for voice sex, your with Scarlette/Fia remember. The one who was banging Bryan and Dresden while they were in a poly with Ash Endriago, Then She was with them, then she started fucking you on the side. They Broke up. Good Authority has it Fia/Scarlette always has a side piece and backup plan bro, just like you do. I am sure you are aware of all that little daddy dom.
Jessi did get what she wanted in getting into CP after all those years of trying it just too Eva banging Chano to do it. I mean she has been known to be the PV whore to sleep her way in and gain powers. A total clan hopper. Pure moron and power hungry. Has no clue and can’t keep a secret. I mean I even have Gyazos of conversations with her name on it from stuff from the AC she was sharing lmao. What a dumbass. She booted Angelika one of the coolest PV players and great fighter in the system because she is a moron. When she gets frustrated, she stops talking.
Speaking of Mamma Jessi, I heard about your pre-trial for your home invasion. You put on quite the grandiose obnoxious show because of all the attention seeking you go for with your constant we are persecuted, it’s not fair. You’re ruining our RP that we try to force on people who don’t want to play like you do. Join us or fear us, we have to have 4 lomarians, an arch, 7 draconians, 5 Gorgonians, 2 Promethians and 7 ancients come with us to kill 1 mature and call it a close-knit family. No, it’s called you want to just slaughter people and force more from the game even though you may or may not want to admit it idiots. BTW how was the 30 day ban you earned for your behavior? Yes word travels in PV, another ban for someone persecuted for her own behavior again.
You are not famous idiots, your infamous by your own behavior and actions, look it up. Nightwolf your a cyber security specialist from what I remember in my brief time and stated how you know how to Ddos and all this other stuff on Discord and the like. It makes one really wonder.
I pity you all. Your more like the scum of PV and should be loathed and despised not praised.
Get your facts straight says
I suggest before bringing my name into anything you get your facts straight. I was NOT involved with the Lescher-Ravens until after their relationship with Ash was over. I had 0 intentions of it, i only saw them as platonic friends. Bryan on the other hand? Had intentions the entire time and had his own plan, though it didn’t come to light until after the fact. I feel bad for Ash. Bryan did to her what he did to others and continued the process through more. He puts women at odds with each other, gets them to turn against each other. Neither talking to the other one so that no one spills the stories. I’ve watched it happen, I’ve heard the stories of it happening before any of us. The ONLY way to weigh through the bullshit is for the women to sit down, compare stories. I promise you if more did that, his true nature would be seen by everyone. You have a folder of screenshots? Congrats! So do I. If this is who I believe it is, the one who calls every redhead he dates/meets/wants to bang “the hottest redhead on the grid,” you brought me into this for no reason other than you are still salty. It’s been how long now? Seriously, build yourself a bridge and get over it. For the record and anyone who really wants to know the truth, if there are any questions regarding the Lescher-Ravens b.s. and what happened, I can prove everything I say. So put on your big boy/big girl pants and come talk to me in world directly. Stop hiding here. It has been over a year now. I stayed silent to avoid the drama and b.s. but since you want to throw lies and deception out for the world to read, I will happily share the truth with anyone that wants it.
#Truth says
Honey, I have the same body parts as you. We left that shit family about the same time as you disgraced your so-called Mother Arch Raine by bringing your house into Ravnos. I call that a slap in the face. Dunno who you think I am but quite honestly, I am a bitch, just not a skanky bitch like you and a brunette to match.
Get your facts straight says
Sounds more like a self inflated egotistical wind bag to me still talking about things you have no personal knowledge of. So when you are ready to put your big girl panties on and come see me face to face we’ll talk. Until then? You, just like the blind deceptions you are posting here, are hereby dismissed like the classless act you are.
#Truth says
Just like the tasteless act you are in how you did your mother and father and took your house out of AdE and moved it to Ravnos knowing how she feels about your man right? Lmao You can deflect all you want. Many people know who both of you are and that clan of yours. You are all a bunch of liars, cheats and manipulators.
Aser says
Lord I get discord messages while at work about this nonsense. I haven’t been here in a while. Let me put it like this I could give a crap about you or you worthless man. I tried to be nice yes you claimed to have interest in me and vice versa. We both know it was a lie. I seen your Avie and Ash when I dated her for real. Hers is def better looking for real. You couldn’t hold a candle to her and her personality blows yours to hell.
As far as the Bryan and Dresden crap or the OP stuff I don’t know shit about that. I have a few gyazos that pertain to myself Ash never spoke to me about the Lescher-Ravens relationship it was a no go.
I don’t give a F about you or Ravnos your all blocked and will remain that way forever and if people in PV and any other HUD or SL is smart they will do the same and ban you drama, bully and lying tards from the grid.
Night says
Aser… when we going to have another Moshpit? – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PueGLUzwyKg
#Truth says
Oh, look a typical it takes Ravnos a mob to fight one person. If I am not mistaken isn’t Aser older than all of you anyways? No wonder you all need to have so many idiots chase after him. I see on so many posts of him and I never met him only know from the short time I was in your pathetic clan earlier in the year over the summer and all of the shit you talked about him. He simply refuses to acknowledge you by engaging you and indulging your delusions that you are someone important. You are just a pathetic want to be trying to draw attention to yourself and want to be bully who can only kill someone AFK in their home with 10 other Ravnos with you. Then you parlay that off into a “family” hunt. It’s all a joke.
Doctor House says
Aaandd thats just your opinion , who the fuck cares what you like or dislike , things are not going like your limited brain is expecting. Its what it is , take it or leave it. You cant change anything , just wasting your time posting some virtual shit about some pixels hating really bad lmao , you so sad person trying to go even with stuff from RL , thats called complex of inferiority 🙂 … omggg they harrraasss meee , hello Police , i wanna report a harassments on my avatar , please help , put them in jail….. hahahhaha go practice on PlayStation so you can get used , people like you shouldnt be abble to access internet at all , your brain is not braining lmao
Buttercup says
I don’t know why nobody can see that this lots agenda is to destroy PV.
By constant bullying, harassment and by stealing the enjoyment of Second Life from people. They have no respect for other players. Their aim is to harass new players out. They are godmodded. Ninja Ryosin leveled up 2 age levels in a month! that is 1000 nights? People are saying, he bought it, like so many of the Ravnos. I was told that the Ravnos are the biggest buyers of age and own the game. Others have told me , no , they are gifts.
I was told that PV was a free to play game of survival. You had to feed to survive. No, your free to play role is victim, a glorified NPC! Well my friends walked away after Nightwolf Ravnos constantly tracked them down and stopped them doing anything in SL. I have been attacked and even killed by Nightwolf, in bed, and was told it was part of the game. Not being able to even go to a shopping event with friends without being jumped and being forced to TP out. It got too much.
I was sick of it so, I too joined the growing collection of dead Vampires. At least I can now enjoy SL, even if I am constantly annoyed by people who want to revive my victimness.
There are nice people, some I called Family, in PV, but toxic bully assholes make SL and PV not enjoyable
fuckoffwiththedumbshit says
oh please pv destroyed its self by becoming P2W. PV is a bullshit system
downwithunderboob says
Honestly, you folks posting every week bout RP sims and MC clubs should really set up your own gossip site. You’re the only ones interested in such gossip. For the rest of us, it’s only BS about people we don’t know/don’t want to know.
Conversely, if you did that, VS would have maybe 10 secrets a week, so what I do know?
Templates: SL is overrun with them, especially this time of year. Sexy witch, sexy nurse, sexy nun. It gets old, but people have to make lindens somehow I guess. There are are very few clothing stores that bring something new to the table, and after 14 years in SL, I know where to shop. Those stores and events, oddly enough, never wind up here in VS.
tweedle says
Why do you care? People should be able to post whatever they want on here. Dont like it, then change the channel. Thats why they call it Virtual Secrets DUH
Laughing at You says
It should be called “Virtual crybabies” because I’m not seeing any secrets here.
tweedle says
LOL I completely agee with you on that
downwithunderboob says
Hey moron, I come here for actual REAL secrets. This repetitive BS about RP and MC is irrelevant. Some of you just need to go create your own RP and MC sims and then the gossip will be about YOU.
tweedle says
I never said I participated in these activities . I just dont life self apointed and self important hall monitors dictating to others. You seem like a 400 pound round basement dweller, still living in your mothers basement. Instead of worrying about REAL SECRETS. why dont you worry about getting a REAL JOB
ebbonee says
Why do you care what people post about clubs. If you dont like then then dont comment to it
Cheeky brekkie says
Half the people on VS or even in SL for that matter of fact don’t know who half these people are, i sure as shit don’t.
Laughing at You says
agreed. I’ve never been to any of the places, or met any of the people, that the VS tribe is constantly crying about .
Ickyspot says
You guys are gonna be shocked to learn every clothing you wear in rl is a template of something. Lol.
SundayFunday says
Wow a site called VIRTUAL secrets posting stuff about VIRTUAL things. Also, I remember when this site started *gasp* as an rp gossip sim. You all need to get over yourselves.
much of losers on here says
@8.
or you know
you could just donate to the store to help the creator pay for the sim bills Karen.
alot of these people think money just grows on trees.
some of these creators have to pay monthly fees for their meshing programs, texturing
programs. land fees. fees for sales events
not enough that Salem puts their stuff on sale almost every week.
i swear to god people on SL are the most entitled pisses of shit ever.
creators are not bound to anyone, it’s their stores. if you didn’t get the chance to buy their
product sooner too bad.
and if they don’t want to place it in the marketplace, also too bad.
and as well if they don’t want to give out redeliveries, once again also too fucking bad.
alot of companies their doors down long after people have invested in them and no one utters a word, it’d be the same if netflix today shutdown and people complained about not being able to fucking watch stranger things or some shit anymore. or some online game no longer supports a online connectivity, and now all of your progress is gone, that’s how the internet works.
some of these people do this for fun and make a bit of side money, when your job becomes too much of a hassle why would you even consider sticking around anymore?
I also like how people give David Cooper so much flack for the things he decides to make but once again it’s his store if he wants to sell the same product over and over and over again, he has every right to do so.
It’s you morons that get angry about it like he owes you something. if you don’t like it, just stop buying from him and shut the fuck up at the end of the day you’re buying a pixelated 3D image.
Not a fucking Ferrari retards.
Dolly says
Not to mention that there actually has been a Notecard sent out AND a landmark to a redilivery terminal…just saying
Idcreally says
You really thought you ate with that response. Lol. Salem had no issue paying tier. They shut down without notice due to creator conflict. I understand there was a falling out, but what they did was unfair and unprofessional. And one of the creators is gonna try to open another store, I’ll be cautious to buy anything from there.
Coolio says
One of the creators quit the store and demanded that none of the products they had a hand in be sold anymore. Since it was a partnership, that meant ALL products. The owner who is opening a new store never wanted that to happen and would have preferred to leave Salem up or give their customers a longer notice to be able to purchase things before closing, but due to the other owner demanding everything be taken down immediately, this was not feasible.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Yes, whichever creator that was is a petulant child and no one should ever partner with them again… not without something in writing preventing them from pulling this kind of business and reputation-destroying tantrum again. You don’t have to like someone to do business with them, and anyone who lets petty personal squabbles get in the way of a lucrative enterprise needs to grow up. I’d like to see some proof of which one it was, though.
Cringe says
It definitely wasn’t Megan, thats all I’ll say. The one who should be on here is the other one. Megan tried her best to fight for the customers and let everyone have a chance to purchase their old products but was shut down and now that person is in hiding while Megan is doing the best she can with making her new store and juggling Salem and the mess her ex partner left behind, forcing her to clean up.
Cash says
Who is paying a monthly fee for meshing or texturing programs in this day and age? A one-time fee for some, sure, but a monthly fee?
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t bitch about what people charge for their goods or services, I think people can and should charge whatever the hell they want. I just think those who try to justify it with all kinds of excuses are blowing smoke up your ass. It doesn’t matter why they charge what they do, no one needs a reason. If people like it enough, they’ll pay the price without all the added justification.
much of losers on here says
It doesn’t matter the fact reminds people are malding over pixel shit like some karen malding at walmart at a black friday sale. LL today could decide to cash in and close the company and most of you fucks that probably invested millions of dollars into second life over the past 16 years would probably lose your god damn minds.
Nothing lasts forever get it through your heads.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
What the fuck is “malding”? That’s just gibberish.
lawlkthxbye says
Mad and balding, kind of like the story of your life. lawl
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
You are literally retarded. lawl
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
They might say that’s ‘litarded’.
lawlkthxbye says
I lowkey wanna see that. lawl
Really? says
Who is paying a monthly fee for meshing or texturing programs you ask? Marvelous, ZBrush, Photoshop, Substance, Maya and so many others are paid services that most creators pay for every month or they choose an annual subscription. You really thought all this was for free? You amaze me and should probably not ever comment again on post regarding creators as you don’t even have basic clue on the simplest thing of the subject you are talking about!
Cash says
Did you read what I said at all? I did not say it’s free, lmao. MOST people do not pay monthly fees for the programs that they are using, they pay the one time or annual fee which works out cheaper. If they are paying a monthly fee, even if they have to, they are getting ripped off-which is why it’s the least used option for nearly all programs. The vast majority of creators just don’t use the monthly subscriptions for things like this, especially when it’s the foundation for their business. Some start off that way, when they’re testing the waters to see if the program works for them.
Less and less people are using photoshop because the alternatives are at least as good, cheaper, and often times easier for people who have never used such programs before (adobe is a ripoff in general and they know it, it’s been going downhill for years because of that). The same can be said for other programs too. As people learn, they realize some of those programs are unnecessary, and the fees were a waste of money. Yes, I do know exactly what I’m talking about, clearly reading comprehension is not your forte.
Jess says
I didn’t join the Salem group to find out they had some minor announcements there because so many other creators in sl have groups and never post a fucking thing and just facebook and flicker which neither I care for. If you create a group in SL post in your group for fucks sake. This doesn’t go to Salem as I saw they did post there but it’s all the other creators that make me hesitant to join any groups because they post nothing, ever.
Justforgiggles says
Just for the record, they do have a redelivery HUB.
Caster Troy says
To everyone on on here that carry’s on about all the so called “ pedos “ in second life. What about post 34? “ apparently “ they were/are 16 years old? Wait, isn’t second life 18+? I bet no one here has a go at them for being underage, but then again there’s double standards in second life. You can’t have ago at one and ignore the other.
Cheeky brekkie says
Yeah on the flip side of that, the dude knew they were/are 16? Still doesn’t make it right. It would actually be interesting seeing screen shots of them them saying they are 16.
blah says
Teens in Second LifeSecond Life is generally for adults 18 years and older; however, if you are 13 years of age or older you can use Second Life with some restrictions. If you’re:
See Maturity ratings Knowledge Base article for information on Second Life maturity ratings.
Linden HomesLinden Homes are not available to Residents under the age of 18. Sixteen and seventeen year-old users have the other benefits of becoming premium account holders. However, they will not be able to access Linden Homes until they turn 18.
blah says
hate break it to you but you can be on SL as young as 13 with restrictions for each age. a 16 can fully be on SL restricted only to PG regions and MP . I posted the age limit TOS page but aparantly wasnt approved. Look it up pretty easy
Amused says
40. How is speaking the truth shitty customer service? It seems *redacted* has a butt hurt and is trying to demonize the CSR and anyone who agrees with them. lul. The entitlement is real. Tay, next time someone asks you a stupid question be humble, kiss ass and GET THEM THE FLAT SHOE JEANS
lol says
“Just can’t win” and “be thankful you have what you have” are extremely rude responses to someone who says they LOVE the product and would love it -even more- if there were an ____ version. Are suggestions not allowed in that discord? Or are they just met with catty comments like those lol? There was literally no criticism in the comment.
Lurking as Usual says
#4: He’s definitely not been behind every ANIMA and Soko post. Some of those were me, & I’m not Zack lmfao.
Honestly have no idea who he is, but you seem unwilling to accept that more than one person can call out shitty user’s bad behavior. You need to accept that Soko is a cunt & ANIMA are stuck up. A lot of us see them for what they really are. Not just myself and this Zack dude.
Exposed says
Sourced the information last week, someone got butthurt because I proved em wrong and it’s the same accusations. They just plastered text on my comment
https://virtual-secrets.com/virtual-secrets/virtual-secrets-week-735/#comment-83958 (or if VS keeps jerkin your browser simply search “HA!” or myself for what you need.)
Ghouls says
Bragging that you make mean posts about people on this website is not a flex but okay! Especially since most of them about Soko for example have been horribly cruel.
Lurking as Usual says
“Mean”? ANIMA are pretentious and step on smaller creators; and Soko is a documented narcissistic bully. I haven’t even come close to matching their level. All I’ve ever done is point out their BS and show that it’s not okay.
Feathers says
Anima was called out for gaslighting a situation that was still pending, that’s pretty fucked up since the results hadn’t become official yet. Soko was called out for being a hypocrite and exposed for it.
I don’t know what soko does now but if they’ve changed it’s gonna take a lot more than honeyed words to change peoples opinions. If they’re true to their word it will end like most things…please don’t pull the “leave Britney alone” card, let their own actions prove their changes.
Feathers says
ANIMA wasn’t even mentioned in the initial accusation. OP is just committing character assassination. Imagine getting schooled in last weeks posts so hard that they’d not only continue to believe in the lie they spouted, but add more drama and prove that the entire accusation was fake.
What’s next they started the attacks on legacy, belleza, hmm something the furrys would know…FK? Keep tooting that horn OP because you lost this fight already.
Caiti Mirabella says
I wasn’t being a bully by pointing out a true thing(designers can’t please everyone), but…I thought RL photos weren’t allowed on this site? my name in many discord servers is Caiti Baxton, and that is my RL photo. And why show my name and the CSR’s name, but block out Le Pumpkin’s name as the commenter? Weirdos.
Cash says
Are you pissed because, like most, you stole that rl photo off the internet and now everyone reading here will see?
If not, disregard and continue ranting. If so, you should stop doing that, you’ll always eventually get caught.
Caiti Mirabella says
Not pissed at all, friend! I’ve never felt the need to catfish, that’s definitely me 😂
Cash says
Then carry on
lawlkthxbye says
Gross. lawl.
blah says
as another pointed out easy search comes up with Horizon Zero Dawn photoshop fan art lol Maybe your name but not you in photo hahahahaha nice trying to add that stupid mobile smile app
Caiti Baxton Weirdo says
Because Le Pumpkin wasn’t the asshole maybe. It was you and Tay from what can be seen in the chat. And you prove it further by revealing the name they blurred. And then go cry because people are so mean and you can’t take it anymore and you don’t have to take it. blah blah blah If you give me those answers, comments or stating the fucking obvious just to feel important and get involved when nobody asked you I’m not going to be nice either. You’re involved in EVERY.FUCKING.THING! Butt the fuck out. Nobody but Danielle and Tay care what you have to say anyway. Maybe they don’t either. Y’all a bunch of fucked up riot cult bullies and shit. Think y’all important or something. GFY
Yep says
1&21) cannot stand Maka. he was making fun of my friend without knowing she was my friend for the sunday funday challenge. said he just tells them all great job when he says they could try harder if they weren’t so lazy. also told me he removes his tag from the embarrassing pictures they post for his challenge
YepShouldHaveBeenAborted says
Come on now, don’t have to lie in front of all these people 😉 If you can’t stand someone, have the balls and just say it to their face without hiding and instead of writing make believe stories out of pure jealousy and envy :* Who hurt you? Doubt you even know Maka or your friend, doubt the story even happened as i see his name tagged on all pictures, whatever the quality is.
Yep says
“Yepshouldhavebeenaborted” I dont have balls and its a game. he lives at least 20 hours from me and i only agreed with the posts as hes told me this himself. that is too far of a drive to say it to a face. 😉
Nope says
Sounds like a personal vendetta and made up story lol, did he hurt you? reject you? tickle you? Why don’t you tell him how you feel about him doing that? If he did that in the first place. This just makes you look like a straight up chicken and punk, no hard feelings
Yep says
Maka we know it’s you talking here talk about hiding loool
IDoThisForFun says
Sounds like something a Von Munster would write…
Helen of Soy says
I just had a look at his flickr. He has no right to critique others pics when his are basic at best.
IDoThisForFun says
Nobody critiques nobody, this is all made up BS
Helen of Soy says
Fair enough!
GeorgeClowney says
FFS just tell people you can’t stand them straight up instead of hiding away from it. Such snowflake times we live in. And these people call themself adults. Trapped in a highschool mindset.
Funny says
Maka is a cunt. He calls people all sorts of names and throws threats but keeps them blocked so they can’t react to him. He is nothing other than a piece of shit that thinks he is better than everyone else. His pictures are crap and should not be any kind of example for anything or anyone. Disgusting person he is.
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
#25 The original one doesn’t fit male avatars so Thirst made one for guy avatars. Besides, there’s like 5 versions of this going around SL. Get over yourself.
#51 The Freddy Template with the crop top sweater and panties is getting overused too. Let’s see how quickly all these stores get told they’re copycats for using the same template when #25 was clearly a different item.
#56 This is satire right? That’s not even SL.
Jess says
56 is from horizon dawn. the pinhead, fat face woke trash main character
Pee Wee Squirmin says
what was woke about her? lol
lol says
because she doesn’t look like an anorexic sex doll with double E tits and a prepubescent toddler face her design is apparently “woke” according to pornsick men who have never seen a real woman in real life before lmao
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
Actually, that would be Aloy from the sequel, Horizon Forbidden West. That particular screenshot was the heavily edited and modded thing a ‘fan’ created because ‘aLoY nEeDS tO Be mOrE FeMiNiNe.’
And I Oop says
#57 Reaching much?
Sophie says
#33 Why is TRES BEAU always involved in drama? Stop worrying about other stores and take care of yours LOL
And I Oop says
we know that every week tres beau will be here
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
The creator probably does it herself to keep attention on her sub par products.
Not my monkeys says
they really are sub par too, plastic dolls faces and the skin tones arent right, only poms go that orange
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Exactly; not that she’s alone, half of the skin creators in SL are pumping out spray tan orange monstrosities, but that doesn’t mean she gets a pass.
blah says
curious as to the drama mention. That image of the sign from their last collab lol if you actually know some tea spill it
Birdy says
If you follow her facebook every month she is involved in something. She was involved in IP tracking and personal social medias too from what I saw last time.
blah says
But that’s not what I asked. I asked what is so called of the VS post since that’s a collab sign.
Hello?! says
Stop spreading misleading rumors. Someone photoshopped a Facebook Story with her name in it to make it seem like she was requesting someone to do such a thing for her, which isn’t true. No one would be so foolish as to point out to be asking for illegal stuff.
STOP WITH THE FAKE COMMENTS! says
I disbelieve she can keep up with all the dramas concerning her. You guys post that shit and pretend she did it, for what? It’s comic how you fellows are constantly stealing and emulating her brand in every element and attempting to use her name and stature to make your items sell.
Exposed says
#4:
Nice to see HA! hasn’t responded to my challenge and chooses to continue to throw more slander and lies to try and ruin someone. First off learn to make a proper post instead of this graphic design is my passion lookin ass. Seriously your little purple text is illegible. And using my post to try and say he’s bad news when I already showed quite the opposite. This is gonna die pretty quickly.
For those that don’t get the context please look here: https://virtual-secrets.com/virtual-secrets/virtual-secrets-week-735/#comment-83958
And my explanation: https://virtual-secrets.com/virtual-secrets/virtual-secrets-week-735/#comment-83997
Give us something factual next time instead of “I’d ALSO source the information but I don’t care enough”. All you’re doing is blatantly lying about someone who’s already been falsely accused multiple times. You’re just adding to the pile.
#53 – 54
And again we have a dumbass who tried to call out others, get called out by those they accused only to lash back with gaslighting and trigger words. Making such dumb claims despite showing that you not only supported them but gave them money, oh and the cherry on top is trying to say this will take some time, it’s probably just more bs.
Here’s the tweet from 54: https://twitter.com/Glowfux/status/1532130705265901570
Srsly says
#4: Anima didn’t need help from anyone else to look bad on VS.
Exposed says
Exactly, actions speak louder than words xD
woah says
ANIMA wasnt even mentioned in this comment, your obsession is showing. You are pretty much the only person here that talks about them, why don’t you say what you wanna say with your chest lil bro
Birdy says
What is this deal with Anima
Cosmo says
It wasn’t mentioned in the original callout last week so… this entire post is just a sham
Srsly says
Anima out here writing posts about themselves and then y’all blame Ambix. Yawn. Next.
Birdy says
I think it’s weird how just because you have issues with Tim you’re overlooking the fact that Shukin drawn porn of someone that admitted to being underage just because they were popular?
Shukin /is/ a sex pest, myself and multiple women have distanced myself from him because he doesn’t understand what “no” means.
Exposed says
Oh I’m not overlooking it, I’m calling the bs part with Tim. He gets called out and NOW he decides to reveal this information? Considering this IS tim who’s also lied about others before for literal clout, I feel it’s safer to wait for some more reliable information before jumping to any conclusion, especially when he’s involved.
The same thing happened when geld got called out as a zoophile, he basically defended them and told others they had no idea what they were talking about. So seeing as Shukin already showed the hypocrisy of his dogdick = zoophile bs they’ve been doing for years it’s funny to see he actually got a commission with one, it’s also rather funny to see them make a callout of someone they’ve supported in the past.
If shukin turns out to be shitty, there’s going to be more proof, but until that happens and it ISN’T bs from tim who’s proven that they’re not a reliable source, I’m just gonna keep lurking.
Birdy says
Ya sure I could give you multiples of womens accounts of the experiences they’ve had of Shukin being a full blown creep to them People don’t really care though cause he’s not on SL too much
Exposed says
I would rather hear you out than someone with a reputation of lies and slander so by all means please show.
VSTS says
Oof.
Applepunch says
#56 is trolling right? That’s a “fan” photoshop of the character from Horizon Zero Dawn
Laffin says
I think it’s satire on the whole “omg what are they wearing?” Thing. I have a few friends who are driven insane by that.
Pee Wee Squirmin says
#35 – What sim is this? Women wanting to be voicei fucked? Run! Most of the sim I go to are dudes on female avatar who don’t voice but want the guy to buy them shit. Show me the money!! Where is this magical place?
#38 – Thanks! Let’s keep it positive guys and complain more about ROC and SL wrestling.
#55 – 511 Toxic in what way? As in Matt Toxic are we talking. The dude wearing the same suit every day partnering the girl with two alts logged in 24 at 511?
#55 – I feel your pain. SL female avatars just dont have enough stores and events.
it is what it aint says
50) You new to SL? Shit talking will happen either close by or behind your back. If you work at any club, Guess what. They have a separate place to trash talk everyone. Get over it and move on, Fuck them!
52) This list needs to be much longer. Pick any club with shitty owners and management.
D'oh says
#29 wha??????? You do know they’re not really gray, right? You just see them that way.
Cheeky brekkie says
I laughed at this, i mean just up your complexity and bam, you see them.
Misty says
56- that is a character from a video game with edited brows..no way no how are you getting in SL legally.
Uh says
#9 I just want to know how every character he plays has the same nasty claws.
#47 and #49 It’s 2022 why are we ho shaming?
#57 It doesn’t even say free candy on the side. I don’t know where you’re getting child abuse from it.
Sleepless in Citadel says
#9 He? I find that highly unlikely. They’ve caused havoc at every sim I’ve been on.
Nope. says
“They” always have the same shape basically for their characters as well. Has to be super tall, with the same basic nose and face, maybe a different skin. They do have skills at drawing and texture editing, and a few other things, I will give them that, but all of the drama that comes with it, isn’t worth it most times.
Ickyspot says
Such a shame about Salem as I’m typing this it looks like the redelivery is active you just need to go through the salem group and check notices for the landmark. I don’t expect that landmark to be open long though. What exactly happened with salem anyway?
Idk says
Simply: The two owners no longer wish to work together.
Yes there are rumors as to why they shut down and drama about how they shut down and everyone has an opinion as to how it should have went down because of course they do.
But it’s better to just say that they are no longer working together and each one of them are set to go off and do their own stores respectively, it happens all the time.
Coolio says
Salem was a partnership of two people. One party decided to quit and demanded all products be removed immediately. The other owner tried to convince them to keep it open to generate passive income, but the quitting party was adamant that they did not want anything from Salem sold, and so it was taken down.
The owner who did not quit is in the process of opening up her own store that will cater to the same audience.
AYFR says
28.Perhaps stop for a second and ask yourself why are you with a cheating asshole instead of telling others how to behave in order to make you feel secure? Ur bf can tell all of these people off if he wants to.
igora says
Don’t forget the cheating assholes that lie about not being married or being in an open relationship. Can’t honor girl code when the shit head is a lying prick to both women but, girls like that attack the girls only.
Big Bong No Pants says
#7 Fair Enuff
Really tho Cole Brennon was a degenerate fk-boy for most of 2018-2020. He seemed to mostly clean himself up for Megan, only for her to drain him emotionally. Karma is a real bitch eh
Helen of Soy says
Megan is a strange person. The experience I had with her, someone who cannot handle rejection very well. It’s almost like she demands attention like a spoiled toddler. Anyone who attempts a relationship with her will come out with emotional damage. The fact he managed to last that long is incredible.
Unapologetic BotS Simp says
#9, 100% accurate, glad they bailed on BotS, their Dayne sucked.
#47 and #49, Atleast the RoC Admins admit they’re running shitty memes about their competition I guess lol. Oh no, her name is “Imm Aho” and she has sex! GASP. The audacity.
She’s still a better Queen than whatever mop with a face drawn on a plate they’ve got set against a wall at RoC.
Guess I’d be mad too if my competitions King and Queen were fucking slaying it by doing something as simple as actually playing with people who didn’t live in the Red Keep.
Smokejumper says
RoC is drama
Shady VonBitchstein says
You spelled “Princess Nymora Martell” wrong 😂
Aww, Sweetie says
Someone living in your head rent-free?
Tired of this shit says
Literally STFU. Yeah, ROC is drama, not the sims that literally started as revenge sims and bashed ROC from the start because their owners left ROC with a toxic fart of drama left behind them. ROC is drama, not the sims that post shitty vitriolic memes about our players every week. ROC is drama, not BOTS where the Queen posts Secrets about herself and then comments on them. Yeah, ROC is drama. Stop smoking and open your eyes. If ROC is so bad then why are your players leaving BOTS and coming back here?
LOL WTF says
Lets be real Valena plays a bloody good MILF Queen and is a class act and its stupid when a bunch of c-list idiots keep dragging her. You should be trying to get her to play in BOTS you dumbassses but oh wait, your insecure because your man will end up simping for her like all of ROC and most of bOTS. Jfc lets not be fools and admit all of us want to make sweet pixel love to the Queen Dowager
Shutupalready says
What crack are you smoking over there? No woman that isn’t a ROC admin or straight man besides Lee has ever simped for that boring twat. None of her female characters have ever been interesting enough to play themselves into a position of power and she wouldn’t have one now if it hadn’t been written for her by an idiot. That’s what all of us really know.
Uh says
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The idea that people are scared she’ll take their man is just embarrassing. People who forever suck up to admins and anyone in power don’t count as real fans.
Laughing at your sorry ass says
You keep trying to manifest that into your life through affirmations, honey. Val/Lana is the GOAT and this is Virtual Secrets not The Secret 😂
Shutupalready says
So heartwarming to see ROC admins supporting their own even in full on delusion. You do have a Goat and she’s not the GOAT any more than Lana is. They are the reason ppl avoid ROC like the plague that it is. Rather pathetic and strange how you all have these grandiose visions of yourselves when everyone else is laughing at you.
Laughing at your sorry ass says
Yeah yeah yeah, I guess ROC beating ya’ll in traffic means everyone comes here for a good laugh at us, then.
Uh says
And I’m sure if you put “roleplay” in search some lactating furries afk sex sim would have all the GoT sims beat for “traffic” so weird flex but ok. Stop fighting girls, you’re both ugly.
Curb your hypocrisy says
47 and 49: The themes being focused on are ridiculous. Most of us RPers are present to RP. Admin who RP have a right to ERP just like the rest of us RPers. Someone else pointed it out, too: people can start their own sims but it’s pretty shady to play at the very sim one bashes when their new sim opens in hopes that will kill RoC. You want to be cut throat competitive and be #1 with your crowd? Go be you. Those of us who want to RP prefer to focus on story-telling can be found at sims like RoC where the sims are focusing on the functional aspects of RP and keeping a good environment.
9: That you point out all this personal diatribe crap like it’s a good thing, is laughable. #9 meme’s maker also isn’t here to RP but be a bully. She needs to delete her av from the RoC group and stop spying because that’s the only way she got that person’s art work. You people sadly have boundary issues on what’s IC and OOC. Equally bad, maybe you leaked a plotline for two RPers? You know what – I take this back. Great meme — yeah good idea. Stay at BoTs and Dragons Aflame. Best thing you can do for our rp at RoC.
On RoC’s Dowager Queen: The comments toward this RPer are jealous and stupid. Valena Tully’s RPer is actually the first queen in a GoT sim that I as a banner house I’ve been able to just go up and RP with when she’s free. She’s also very objective when she wear’s her admin hat. The whole RoC admin is especially since two folks left to form Dragons Aflame. Those folks should not be throwing any stones at any sim in SL or writing any books on how to run a sim.
Saywhat!? says
Sorry but most of the attacks on here seem to have come from current RoC members, which is really disappointing. People have the right to move onto new sims – just wish them well and get on with your own storylines. Why are you so damned bothered by others going out and finding rp elsewhere. Just get on with your own life.
Curb your hypocrisy says
Oh you miss the point or maybe you don’t per your non-response. Players like myself are /very happy/ y’all found your RP in other sims. You should be a good friend and counsel your friend who has parked themself in the RoC discord and reposted the art in #9 here with their ridiculous and jealous comments. They should really be focusing on their RP in these other sims, right?
There’s absolutely zero need to spy on RoC discord which is only where no. 9’s art came from — if RPing is really supposed to be their #1 passion in life.
Valena Tully says
Thank you, this is so nice of you to say! I really hope everyone feels like they can just approach Valena and have a scene with her when I’m around. Promise I don’t bite.
And I also think our admins are pretty objective, but I swear once again that I’m not one of them. I’ll hold off about any jokes about BDE this time so that hopefully next week I can disappear from being name-dropped in confusing memes.
Happy RPing to everyone at BOTS, DA and ROC, let’s seriously just end this so that SL Wrestling can take over as the enfant terrible of SLSecrets.
GonnaEatYourRubels says
#9: Oh, look its Rikki, or whatever she changed her name to be. Good to see you still being the mean girl.
#47: First, that’s not how the Dave Chappelle Meme works. Second, you have the wrong Game of Thrones sim. Third, Haylise, why you making memes about yourself? We get it, your SL name is funny.
#49: See above.
Uh says
What if I told you calling players out by name and witch-hunting without evidence does not give you the moral high ground over “those pathetic VS posters” that you think it does. Nor does continually making fun of other sims and the players at them merely for living their best life and escaping your toxic dump. Stay classy RoC 😘
GonnaEatYourRubels says
What if I told you, projection much?
I’m not making fun of anyone, nor do I RP like a scrub in wannabe Medieval Fun Time Land. It’s clear you do though. 😎 <- Oh look, I can do emoji’s also. Stay classy secret internet warrior. 💩 💩 💩
Uh says
Sure Jan.
GonnaEatYourRubels says
There’s the hypocrisy.
😘 😘 😘
Uh says
Oh honey.
GonnaEatYourRubels says
Bless your heart 💕
Saywhat!? says
….. said the secret internet warrior
GonnaEatYourRubels says
Hey, nice to meet you kettle. 🤔
smh says
40 – speaking the truth is not shitty customer service. you can’t please everyone all of the time, that’s just plain fact.
56 – that is a heavily edited photoshop, with a morph most likely. you will never look like that in-world.
57 – omg stop reaching lol
so much wrestling and roc bs. still. I wish someone actually looked at submissions before posting weekly smh.
The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society says
56 Isn’t even SL, that’s a screenshot of Aloy from Horizon Forbidden West
lawlkthxbye says
Since when is a CSR paid to tell the “truth”? They’re there to engage with customers, answer questions, take suggestions, etc, hence the name customer service. Not make fun of a customer who is simply making a suggestion, dumbass.
This is a prime example as to why people of SL really should get out more. lawl
Smh says
lol customer service isn’t about lying to the customer, it’s about effectively responding to their request or concern. which that person did. they didn’t mock at all; they replied honestly and steered the discussion back around. they handled it just fine.
this is a prime example of some people’s need to be coddled and all they can do is resort to name calling when they have no valid argument. lawl
Hello My Baby says
42, 43, 44, 59
All of Second Life Pro Wrestling: “WHY CAN’T YOU JUST BE NORMAL???”
UFW CEO: *making screeching noises*
Pee Wee Squirmin says
when will the cross promotion ROC vs UFW happen? I want to get front row seats.
smash reward says
If Dante doesn’t cause such a scene (again) that the other party gets so pissed off they cut ties and cancel? Probably a year, maybe two if he pushes all the work off onto his managers like always.
just helping says
#58 Check out Semllar they have quite a bit of worn and beaten shoes
Aili Panthar says
^ second this, Semlller makes shoes for male and female bodies & often are in weekend sales
a shadow says
#17 It’s like I wrote it myself but didn’t. Events needs to go back to the old rules of not using the same dj too often. and they need to vary the days and times as was suggested. I miss the days they had rules about not getting too stuck in a rut cause people get bored. “movie nights” were also discouraged because they were stale. Funny how rules change.
putting the pieces together says
17 you are obvious a fan club of her if you keep talking about her every single week, i know who you are,i know how you get when someone is after the man you like, or how marcus only fucked you on the weekends, mentioning chris winchester, which, only older GMS and residents know about, YOU ARE A PATHERIC OLD LADY
Smart Label says
Furby would never give Marcus the time of day
Drama Llama says
48. This one is a bit confusing, Chingon made this tattoo months ago and “Dark Queen” released theirs two weeks ago. Gross.
Using Art For Tattoos Is Theft says
They’re both trashy thieves. You can find the original artwork on pinterest. You can’t claim ownership on something you stole yourself.
Copy/Paste Tattooers are Actual Trash says
They both stole this artwork…. it’s not THEIRS to sell! Both need to be removed by SL and their stores closed, absolute trash humans.
Open Your Eyes says
#37 You should probably learn to read ads. WellMade ads state when they are original mesh creations. The boots are not original mesh nor do they claim to be in the ads. Seems you are so thirsty for some gossip and bashing but probably would be good to open your eyes and read what the Ad says.
The creator does create original mesh but also uses templates to supplement between her original releases. The store is also broken down with an “ORIGINALS” section. So, it is no secret that the store has original creations and some that are not.
This is NO Secret 🤔
lawlkthxbye says
You should do as your name says and open your own eyes. Just above Lempika, it says 100% original mesh; so maybe they were referring to them, instead. But you’re over here sounding super pressed, are you WellMade? lawl
Open Your Eyes says
Get a hobby and a life. Posting ‘fake news’ is a pretty pathetic Second Life to have. Go explore the grid, find a better way to spend your time.
GetInLoser says
#58 not true. Go to Semller.
Sickandtiredofit says
#58. Semller.
Semller – Worn Canvas Hi Tops; single.
Materials enabled; original mesh & texture.
Sizes;
⍛ Legacy male & female; eBody Reborn; Jake; Belleza;
Maitreya Lara; Gianni. + Resizable unrigged.
blah says
Thank you and all here mentioned this store. Never heard of it but found male & female about every single shoe including new and worn version. In love !!!
Smh says
You do realize that Salem was owned by TWO people… they BOTH had to agree to keep it open, but unfortunately Luci wanted to shut it down and not offer a chance for people to grab what they want, so don’t mix the two together, because if Megan had her choice Im sure she would have given her customers a chance to buy items.
Idk says
Please stop framing one person in a better light than the other, because it’s not true and perpetuating drama is scummy. No one knows what went down between them, just how it looks from the outside looking in. I get it, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, but just stop, it’s done and over with. They both are working on their own separate things now. They’re not the only store to split up and they’re certainly not the last. People have creative differences and it sucks when this happens, but it’s time to move on and stop throwing hateful rhetoric from either side.
Spill it then! says
You know too much. Spill it for the rest of us!
Ugh.... says
Nah, he is. Being so selfish (since there are 2 people involved) to close down the store for good, without any notice at all, no public post, and no warning is a cunt move for both the co-owner and fans of the brand and it is highly unprofessional.
Ugh.... says
Lucien is a fucking cunt.