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  1. #49

    The dude has a girlfriend and yet he will jump into dms and bombard you with compliments and then beg you to be his mommy dom. Its bad enough he will spam gestures at you asking “Sex? You know you want it!” and various other things. I just mute the guy for a bit and ignore him when I see him. Maybe he would have better luck at a little sim. I also heard from those who hang out with him he cries when he gets turned down, bullied back, and when he cums.  😂 

    • I left SL months ago after receiving a scary medical diagnosis due to being too sedentary. I made some major lifestyle changes, first of which was to uninstall Firestorm from my computer. After stepping away for a long time and now reading this page, I realize just how unhealthy SL is for everyone. People may never want to admit it, but everyone goes to SL because something is missing or broken in their real world. For some, it could be a valid reason like a disability and SL allows them the opportunity to have a social life they could not have otherwise. But many choose SL over real life relationships. I met many mothers who would be on SL for over 12 hours a day and have small or school age children. I can’t imagine that is a healthy dynamic for children to have an absentee parent. I met many people who are married in real life yet having a romantic relationship in SL with someone they spend more time with than their real life spouse. Then I see how just mean and nasty you all are to one another here, on this website. Is this a reflection of our society today? Have we lost all sense of morality and just basic kindness and empathy? When someone finds other peoples pain and loss entertaining, that is indicative of a deeper psychological problem. It is a proven fact that when people hate others it is due to their own self-loathing and self-hatred. People hate in others what they see in themselves or for just that moment they are posting that nasty comment about someone, they feel better about themselves, morally superior. I laugh at all of the “Proven” comments or accusations but proof is never provided. This place reminds me of high school. Adolescents have no sense of compassion or empathy as they have not developed it yet. Teenagers can be vicious. But, the people who post here are NOT teenagers. They are adults and apparently have no remorse about harming others. These people are the same people that you all are ignoring your real life family and friends for, making SL your priority and becoming colder, more cynical, hateful, spiteful and just downright mean. I know I will receive hate over this as the truth hurts but if I influence just one person to make a healthier life choice, then I have succeeded.

      • There’s almost nothing funnier than you people who are “over” SL but keep coming back here every week for your little metaverse methadone fix. Literally no one cares about your sanctimonious, presumptuous, incredibly inarticulate comment. You could have said all of that in a fraction of the words, but you really enjoy seeing yourself speak. If you were really done, you’d stop coming here too. Any addict will tell you, switching delivery methods isn’t sobriety.

  3. Unpopular opinion: I sort of miss the Game of Thrones sims drama. It’s entertaining AF even if we aren’t all involved.

  4. @20 – Reason enough for me to not support this event. Events should be a representation of it’s artists an creators of the community and supporting such person an condoning ones actions which they have been reprimanded for already is a huge NO NO. This only looks back on the event as a whole. *End of story*

  5. #1 That’s the problem with CC. Everyone thinks everyone else is an alt. That’s the main reason I moved out, i was apparently an alt of someone who was previously banned. Then my friends got accused of being alts, a guy at Cedar demanded we got on voice to prove it, we did, he said we were using voice modifiers…so we all left.

    • Azure Is actually a very sweet and helpful member of the city. I feel bad for whomever is posting these thing’s.

      • Yes she is sweet on her Azure account but uses ALTS to deceive people. She will call someone names on the ALT while on Azure she will act like she is deescalating it. She starts drama with ALTS to make Azure look like the savior.

    • CC has a lot of ALTS. There’s people in CC with up to 10 ALTS or more. It’s those who use their ALTS for the wrong reason that get tracked. The last big ALT debacles were Marcus/Declan McGregor and before that it was Chris Winchester. Their IP matched the ALTS and Chris confessed to it but Declan is still doing the crap. Azure’s IP matched more ALTS than both Chris and Declan combined. Let that sink in. Sucks what happened to you and your friend but Azure has a lot of ALTS that she uses to deceive and cause problems and be rude to people.

      • Do you work with the staff that would have access to these IP addresses? I mean how would a random person get them unless you are part of the management?

      • Who ever you are, you are a Fucken coward piece of shit, I know who you are and your ways, if you have a Fucken problem, own up and tell her, that’s right you can’t, you are a coward! You feel good about yourself?

  8. Why the frick does it take literally several days for my comments to appear????

    • Best bet is, type one word in the box and post, then edit your comment to say whatever it is you wanted to say, to get around the automoderator. It stops comments from posting for really stupid reasons, sometimes what appears to be none at all really. It takes days because Kess doesn’t care enough about this site to check it every day, which is fair.

      • It also takes longer if you ever change the name you use, it automatically sets it for moderation, I think.

  9. Toby has no Brains cells why Esle he goes off on a person false accusations along with being buddy friends with admins to back you up. Pff pathetic you what I say your so weak faking drama and sending your little bitch friends to hand your own battles. You are just weak 20 years old boy who faps over Loli hows that shota doll you want to buy in real. You want to experience real life you monster you think like a pedophile.

  10. 1 Gen X is awesome and I’ll hear no complaints. Well, half of us are absolute crap, and the other half is awesome but thinks we’re crap, so you can’t actually say anything about us we haven’t said ourselves a million times

    6 Nobody said they shouldn’t have some kind of BOM organization system, they just said there’s already at least one way to do it with what you have

    24 How does one building resemble The TWIN Towers? And have you ever been to any large city? There are skyscrapers everywhere that look all the same

    27 Who the hell is trying to use Maitreya for men’s bodies? Good luck with that

    • Loads of people. The extant men’s bodies make it very hard to be skinny or even just average instead of “built,” “really built,” or “90s superhero hyper-exaggeration built.” Maitreya + a flat chest mod is all over the place, and lots of stores especially with a queer audience cater to it quite specifically along with the bodies originally intended to be male.

      • Huh. Ok, I hadn’t realized that. I knew the trans community used the flat chest mod, but I wasn’t aware it worked only with, or maybe best with, Maitreya. Although I wouldn’t classify trans women as men, but I guess there are lots of variables among men, too, under the LGBTQ+ umbrella.

  11. 9 So they don’t trust their residents but they trust that crooked manager?

    • Well neither is okay. No one wants to deal with crooked managers or crooked residents using alts for deception

  12. #45 is cheap for a fat pack! Wtf!! lol you are getting 20 different eyeshadows and also their time into making those..really 999Ls for that is cheap should be charging 1800Ls for them!

  13. #51 – I’m pretty sure Woodland has further issues. Blaze isn’t paying the sim tier with the money that’s coming from rentals, and doesn’t have anyone else in management to pay for them.

    Blaze doesn’t come online much anymore either. Not too long ago, their sim tiers were SEVERAL weeks behind. I don’t understand how “RGF Estates” allows them to continue renting when the continue to be several weeks behind, continuously.

    Check out their rental boxes for the sims here: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Cinnamon%20Twist/57/38/2762

    • Lol that’s cute. We have never been 7 weeks behind tier you are very dramatic. How about you mind your own fucking business and stop hiding behind a fake name on a website made to trash talk people in a video game. But it’s ok, your insecure tiny little child self can talk all you want on here. Means nothing, be a man and say it to my face with your real name.

  15. @#1 Many Player’s in Secondlife have Alt’s, Azure as I have seen is a very nice pleasant person to be around. Azure is very helpful to other’s and has many friend’s. Alt’s or not she is a great friend!

    • Yes she is pleasant on her Azure account but uses ALTS to deceive people. She will call someone names on the ALT while on Azure she will act like she is deescalating it. She starts drama with ALTS to make Azure look like the savior.

  17. #10 How is asking to be raped not consent, idiot?

    • honestly it’s like they don’t understand that in the BDSM community, rapeplay and Primal isa thing.

  19. #5. Honestly listening to them talk is just fucking irritating.

    #10. CNC, babe

    #27. Or you could just stop biting your nails.

  20. #14 Your stuff probably isn’t as good as you think it is. If you had 40 takers and only 1 blog post, chances are at least 35 of them were just trashbinned. I do blogging for a group that asks for – but doesn’t demand – blogger boxes. I honestly try to blog everything offered because I want the event as a whole to do well. Why take an item but not blog it? Creators can have crap vendor photos but the product itself is brilliant. Some don’t include a photo. I won’t know unless I open the box. If it’s awesome, great, I’m going to produce a blog hopefully helping that product look fantastic. If it’s badly rigged or textured or the materials are completely out of whack, poses I can’t figure out wtf they are supposed to be used for, shapes for heads I don’t own, and I can’t get a good photo of it, it’s going to the trash bin. I refuse to blog something that’s going to make the product look bad. I refuse to edit photos to make something look better than it is. I can’t tell you how many products are ruined because the creator has set some outrageously out of whack materials on them, then made it no-mod so it looks like shit. But let me tell you, if a new creator has made something well, I will go out of my way to help promote it. This even works if the creator isn’t using original mesh. If they went out of their way to make a well-fitted, well-designed, well-textured item, they will get my time to make them look good. This even goes for stuff I won’t ever use again. So before you start accusing people of just stealing your stuff please take a hard look at what you are producing. Talk to your blogger team, ask for constructive criticism and work with it.

    • I both agree and disagree. DISAGREE: I have been in SOOOOOOOOOO many events and time and time again I have seen bloggers just blog the same few items from “top” designers. Any of my items blogged were just backdrops to bloggers featuring clothing, fashion accessories etc. I stopped sending items to event bloggers for this reason. But because I wasnt a big name store, my items were not blogged.

      AGREE: Sometimes I knew a product I made would not sell well and other times I knew I had made something that would sell well. It’s great that you want to be fair and its good to offer constructive feedback. I have asked blogger friends and customers for feedback on my products so I am creating items that people want.

  21. #41
    LIKE I SAID.. I AM TIREDDDDDD of highlighting “fat, black, and female”. thank you world for half ass creating a space for black women to be celebrated for their accomplishments but can we zone in on a person’s talent or whatever the showcase is without first giving a round of applause to said person for being fat.. black.. and female?

    And lastly.. out of all the bullshit i post.. all the years of scandal and torment ive put in on these sl streets.. THIS WDF yal choose to post? im insulted. 

  22. 51. “Everyone can come back to Woodland now” No. Everyone who left Woodland endured a toxic manager for long enough. The owner ignored complaints. The people of Woodland got sick of it and opened a new community. New Haven is doing better than Woodland ever will and you lost those people for good. Eventually people get tired of toxic managers and go to better things. In this case they made their own community. The owner let Aηgєℒ Dᴜsᴋᴍᴇʀᴇ (angell.aquila) ruin it. I hear she’s in Cheesecake Valley now

    • I joined woodland for a week and literally saw nothing happening, no RPing, no interesting events, nothing. It was a very boring community. Even hearing about it before I joined, a couple people told me it wasn’t good. But I decided to give it the benefit of doubt and still proved to be nothing but toxic boring people.

    • G247 is absolutely correct in their comment. If the people of Woodland need somewhere to go, there are plenty of other communities who will treat them far better. All this commenter can say is God help Cheesecake Valley.

      Angel is a nasty and vindictive individual that has a great talent at deceiving people until it’s too late. CC saw it, Woodland now sees it, New Haven knows it and it’s only a matter of time before Cheesecake Valley learns it the hard way. Woodland could have been great but instead the Owner allowed certain people to take the reins and virtually destroy everything. He trusted the wrong people despite many warnings and then stood by while they ran Woodland into the ground.

      Now that the community has lost all credibility and most of the team has jumped ship, (including their financial backers) it’s only a matter of time before they start closing down sims. To make matters worse, they most likely won’t tell their residents either. They’ll keep taking their money right up until they kick them out. It wouldn’t be the first time. Speaking of which, when was the last time anyone even saw the Owner?

      • Aηgєℒ Dᴜsᴋᴍᴇʀᴇ (Angell.Aquila) is vindictive and so is her brother Alex Avery (oldmac33). They both lied to get the reins of Woodland so they could make it their own but destroyed it instead. Blaze trusted the wrong people. Alex Avery (oldmac33) and Aηgєℒ Dᴜsᴋᴍᴇʀᴇ (angell.aquila) could only keep their fake mask on for a while.

      • Again, that’s cute yall hide behind fake names on this shitty website. Woodland is doing fine and isnt closing anytime soon. But like i said to dumbass at the top, be a man or woman or a fucking adult and say this shit with your real name. Bunch of childish pussies.

      • Aηgєℒ Dᴜsᴋᴍᴇʀᴇ (angell.aquila) and Alex Avery (oldmac33) are both vindictive and have the ability to deceive people. They can only keep their masks on for a long. Blaze made a big mistake when he trusted and allowed them to take the reins of his sim.

  23. #1 A lot of people have ATLS but Azure uses ALTS to deceive people. She will call someone names on the ALT while on Azure she will act like she is deescalating it. She starts drama with ALTS to make Azure look like the savior. She has more ALTS than what is on the list. Azure is not her main account and she talks crap about everyone. No wonder she crawled up idiot Lucy’s ass. She wanted someone desperate enough for friends. Azure does not have ALTS to help her roleplay story. She has them to deceive and lie.

    • Rachel and cole , just stop, you got caught photoshopping logs and now you are ban from cedar and you mad mad, stop embarrassing yourself and move on

      • I am not Rachel and if she got banned she deserved it. She is just as rude as Azure’s ALTS

      • I am hearing that she was not new when she first arrived like she said she was she was and her main account has been in CC for a spell. I hear they are trying to uncover the main account. She is trying to deflect because she knows if this gets out her friends will know about her deceit

      • Rachel you twat, stfu ALREADY!!, you look stupid af, Time to move on, and seek help, i feel sorry for you

      • I am not Rachel I think she is twat too who looks for any reason to cheat on her boyfriend but that is another story. Stop trying to deflect from Azure’s ALTS

      • Taylor Guffey could or could not be he wasn’t traced but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is

      • No Azure is not an ALT of Lucy but ALTS flock to Lucy because she is desperate. Many who know about her her crooked ways stay away from her

  24. 15. He is one of my closest friends in sl, you should stop slandering his name, it’s been a nonstop train of gossip and trash talk from you, we get you’re upset about the breakup but this is toxic. He has another circle that doesn’t talk about you, and you’re irrelevant, move on. He has a boyfriend sl and rl and he’s over you. Move on, go outside and get a life.

  26. #5- It’s been a few years but from what I remember she was caught copybotting. I think she said that her boyfriend at the time pressured her into it, but that’s just an excuse. You’re still responsible for your own actions, especially when it’d be way easier to not do something.

    #28- Why does this look like it’s been scanned and printed in b&w about 20 times?

    • It wasn’t even copybotting. She just made some stuff a little too similar to some other creators way back when all the furries were on Kemono. Just the usual sugar cult + his shitty n tired old bitch crew antics and they never get over anything. More recently, she made a squished thighs mod right after Kottr but I don’t know why she caught shit for it when Maze did literally the exact same thing and made a shitload of money and got all the glory. Pretty fucking stupid and I hope all those creators realize how dumb they look now.

      • Kottr? The person that sent a hate train after Maze when they made squished thighs too?

      • Maze got all the glory because they marketed to human avatars- and because they advertised, period. Kottr focuses almost exclusively on furries, and I would never have even known about the Ambix thighs if I hadn’t been helping a friend look for Reborn fishnet stockings on the MP- pure chance, I’ve never seen that creator advertised anywhere.

  27. lol #16 ….

    keep in mind the guy she just got back with is just as toxic as her: the perfect match! she spread that he has pedophilic intentions. now, he is hired at a school being outted for pervyness.

    he lives with his “ex” gf in real life except she has no idea he has online girlfriends. he is controlling as fuck and does not actually love anyone once they point out his bullshit. he blames all of his manipulative behavior on the victim. also, his kids store “Lil Luna” was entirely promoted by his ex-gf, she would get him into events and advertising. he barely paid her anything (only when she asked for money) and did not seem even remotely grateful for her work. after they broke up, he has not been seen at any event. lol.

    he ignored his sl kid for days, never messaged her when she was online and then called her a man-hating feminist (she posted it on fb). he wanted to adopt another kid weeks after adopting this one and neglecting her. he also ignored his other kid who he has known for a year+. when asked why he wouldnt reach out he would always say it was because the kids never msged him first. what a father-figure….

    • So much this! They both do the same things! They really are the perfect match.

  28. #47 if you’re unhappy with the prices, make yourself, why are you acting like a nasty baby lol, I’m sure you’re the kind to doing tantrum irl

  29. 51. The witch is not dead. She just changed her last name from Aeon to Aηgєℒ Dᴜsᴋᴍᴇʀᴇ (angell.aquila)

  30. #45 well dumbass, next times move your fat butt, because I got it for 65l$ on the weekend sale this week, so you’re lazy as fuck and you come here to complaint ? What’s wrong with those stupids lol

  31. #3 It wasn’t an opinion. There was clear intent to plant the seed of “copybotting”. Danielle is a snake, bully and hypocrite.
    #10 Get over your fucking self. This shit is obviously wanted and sells like hot cakes in SL.
    #11 There is zero proof that they copied anyone and I would be surprised if they did. Legacy would surely be screaming by now. There was no threat of a lawsuit. Perhaps contact by a lawyer is all. No boycott here. Danielle is a sorry ass skank. Always plays the victim.
    #14 Boo fucking hoo. Take it up with the bloggers and event owners directly. This shit is boring.
    #24 LMAO! You realize there are models of the Twin Towers literally everywhere. Right? Pixel and RL darling. Bless your heart!
    #25 LOOOOOL
    #26 Uhm no it wouldn’t have been.
    #27 Why because they aren’t all chewed up and full of nasty grime? Who the fuck looks at a guys nails anyway?
    #31 Inept creators suck and there are more and more every damn day!
    #34 LOL!
    #35 These are very thoughtful designers. A dying breed.
    #36 Meh.
    #38 LOL! Huh?
    #39 Garbage. Definitely one of Danielle’s garbage bully fans.
    #47 LOL! Nowhere does it say they are a new release. FFS!
    #48 Another Riot gang member and bully. Danielle seems to attract bullies. Her discord and posts are full of them.

      • Like for all weekend sales, you’re deffo stupid as fuck lol Make your own product if you’re unhappy, like that you will have shit on your face

  32. @5 I’ve both worked and hung out with Ambi, I can not imagine what problem someone could have with her.

  33. #1 Everyone has alts?
    #2 Who are they?
    #3 Don’t like it? don’t buy it? Simple
    #4 Read what? Context please?
    #8 Most Furries are amazing!
    #9 They can’t do shit with the IP, most people are to stoopid to even know how to use Netstat or network tools.
    #10 This OP has obviously never been to a sex sim in their whole entire SL life.
    #17 Oh no, someone copied someone, time to the SL world to end.
    #21 Se post #8
    #24 Maybe someone wants to virtually fly a plane in to the trade centers? (get ready for the hate)
    #25 Did will smith hurt you? tell us where he hurt you.
    #26 I have seen better graphics on Doom 3D
    #28 You really care who the ” Mayor” is fucking? how sad and boring is your SL?
    #41 you know they exist IRL right? same as Fat white chicks? Each to their own i say!
    #49 Don’t use will smith, you will up set OP of #25

  34. Slow week eh? No real SL tea 😮‍💨. There’s always next week 🤷🏼.

  35. #15.Did you really think you were the only one he was with in sl  😊 . how sad  😢  my point on this, this guy is a known fuck-boy in sl, the same person that has been in sl secrets xx amount for some sad girl whose heart he broke. Get in line not original. Food for thought. 💋 

  36. Yall put some really shitty secrets up here, there are what? thousands of active users everyday on the grid and you think we will know who the f*** is jesse, tina, cindy and all these who people cheating on other who people? PAHLEASE

  37. 40, 42, 43

    Hilariously, the one piece of “proof” these people keep showing was also proven to be photoshopped and cropped just to slander. Idk who Dante turned down, or fired, that got butthurt, but holy crap it’s hilarious watching them flail when everyone who’s actually there and a part of the community knows what the truth is.
    Make another alt, your personality still shines through, and you’re still going to get fired and turned down.

    • Apparently a would-be Trainee got super butthurt over their CEO making a single sex joke.

      Thought it was aimed at them and threw a fit.

      • Yeah. Maybe a person in a position of authority, however low-stakes it is, should consider his words first.

    • If they want to go the route of Sylvania square slandering then they might as well remain at Sylvania square.

    • *Dante: has used racist, homophobic and sexist slurs his entire time on SL. Referred to Sylvania Square as “The Center of ****suckers”. Rehires announcers after they used racist hate speech DURING A SHOW. Sleeps with other wrestlers for them to get more screen-time. Badmouths the LGBT community. Has had wrestlers walk out of the fed when his sexual harassment got too bad. Demonizes Islam and middle eastern minorities. Had HALF HIS FED quit when his racism was made public and refused to do anything about it.*

      “Lol, Dante’s innocent. Fake News.”

      • Don’t forget how he participated in an anti-BLM movement in 2020 TWICE

  38. 17B.

    Uhhh what did you expect from Cake Day? Black or white, the truth has no color. It takes a thief to catch a thief.

  39. Unfortunately this was my experience too. Event bloggers can pick and choose which items they want to blog… and yes I found they all picked the bigger stores and maybe 1 blogger would choose my item and it would often be hidden behind other items or an avatar posing in front of it…. so yes this is often the case for home and garden items at events.

    With some events you have to send the items to the group, so 200+ people could get the item for free, maybe 1 blogger would blog it. Sometimes you would be giving away free more than you sold at the event.

    Simple solution… stop sending it or giving it to bloggers to blog. Get your own bloggers, then you know they will do better justice to your work.

    Before anyone complains maybe the products weren’t good enough, its also about bloggers wanting to blog the big stores so they can continue to blog for them and about event organisers not ensuring there is fairness of blogging items by designers who all pay the same amount to be in their event too.

  40. #10. <- I feel its more directed to Kinky aspects of the world. there is such a thing called CNC which means Consensual Non consent. Which means, you consent earlier on for a fantasy situation of rape play since at times it gets you off and others off. I dont feel they were “Promoting” rape at all. But hey if they are Promoting that, I must be Promoting foot fetishes every time i walk around barefoot.

    • Yeah, it kinda makes it not rape if the supposed victim says “rape me”, doesn’t it? lol

      Probably just a pissed off dogfucker trying to spread the kink shaming around after last week’s roasting. Hey, animals can’t consent to a non-consent fantasy dumbass, stop trying to equate them.

      • It’s someone on the forums who thinks she speaks for all women, like some kind of educational warrior feminist.

      • There was a whole post about it, pages long, but the mods removed it. It was the same old “someone think about the women!!” shit she always posts about it somehow normalizing actual rape and why all women should feel the way she, an expert of course, feels about it.

        I bet they’re definitely dark and lean on the side of not so friendly given the way she rants about shit.

  42. 5:
    IDK the tea but ive seen some super fucking weird juvenile shit circling them in the past. If you just mention Ambix in sugarcult’s discord server or link to an item ambix made, they get crazy pissed off and weird and will threaten to ban u if you say nice things about them. it’s pretty fucking funny to watch. try it out sometime. i havent done it in more than a couple years so maybe theyve made amends by now.

  43. #10. Yes, consent matters. The sign says “Rape me”, that’s consenting by 1st person request.

    DIFFERENT IF the sign had said to “Rape them/her/him.”

  44. #36 – This girl is honestly the nastiest cunt in the entirety of Second Life. All she does is incite as much drama as possible because she is a lonely old woman IRL who no man (or woman) would ever take a second glance at. She is a waste of space and honestly I think more people than not agree they wish she would go away completely lol

  45. 3: this is some of the funniest shit I’ve ever witnessed

    9: pretty sure anyone should be concerned with internet strangers having access to their IP…

    11: yup. Stiiiill funny.

    13: you should see him irl… 😬 

    15: so…you admit to age playing….

    24: ma’am, that is a skyscraper.

    26: starting it with no adult content was their biggest mistake.

    32: I own that set on the left and even though it’s super old I still use it.

    48: stiiiiiill funny

    • #9 If you had any idea about what IP is, you’d know that having someone’s IP lets you do nothing at all

      • These are the same people who think they need to run and change their password immediately if they just click on a phishing link, without entering any of their info  🙄  but I guess being overly cautious is better than the opposite, so I guess let them be scared about their IP (which guaranteed changes regularly anyway, almost no one has a static IP)

    • #15 Gossiping about your ex being into ageplay… also points out that you did it too. oops. 🤐  that backfired

  46. @15. Sounds like an angry diary from a girl who watched too much twilight, this is a virtual world-reality check- no one can force you to be an underage avi- you can always log off that makes you as much of a pedo as he is for indulging this guy.

  47. #1 Rachel, just stop, you are embarrassing yourself, you mad cause you and cole got caught being snakes, photoshopping logs and got ban from cedar , this is so embarrassing I feel sorry for you

  48. @23, this is likee a blatant lie. I have been to hiroba many many times and know asuka personally. I speak Japanese and live there for many years.

    • Nope, you do not speak Japanese nor do you live in Japan. You live in Thailand, and your Japanese is rather funny and painfully contrived for someone who claims to be a native speaker. You have been lolcowed by actual Japanese in their keijiban equivalent of Virtual Secrets a few times already about weebs on SL. Go look for it…

      Re: the secret, nope there is NO child play going on in that sandbox. The owner (ネカマ btw), while very short, wears an outdated head that looks like a middle aged woman. I am not defending Japan Hiroba. If anything, it is just a badly designed, laggy prim cube amusement park and you are just imagining things.

    • I can assure it is true. Why does all hiroba staff who aren’t myokko disappear after a few months? It has happened many times, tiny infractions get any foreign staff banned instantly.

      In that regard, asuka keeps a website storing data of thousands of players who join. When I was staff it was thousands of players information, they keep bots in new player areas running script to detect viewer language setting.

      Also, asuka being a pedophile who teaches foreigners to speak like a child does not make me hate japan – a japanese

  49. # 24 – Thank you for your interests in Le Chateau Plaza! The building is based on the “Tour Pleyel” near Paris (I’ll let you check this out!) but also from the original World Trade Center design as we do love the “International” style which is extremely common for business structures and skycrappers. By creating Le Chateau Plaza we are also doing a duty of remembrance for the WTC original building, movies such as “The Wolf of Wall Street” and “Yuppies” culture, I don’t see any offense here? I guess you just don’t understand at all that the whole point here is to make a tribute to the greatness of an bygone era and a way of life that we all miss. By the way so you know, the “World Trade Center” name is not based on the New York one but there are like dozen of WTC in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Trade_Centers

    • It would be one thing if it was a respectful memorial. It isn’t. Drugs, alcohol, cocktail bars, etc in a building that on the outside might as well be an exact replica of the WTC. It’s blatantly offensive. An absolute mockery. There’s thousands of other building designs you could have chosen. The various photos and mini statues of the WTC with the New York skyline… yeah. You picked that one in particular and said fuck you to the victims and their families with your blatant disregard for something that was an absolute tragedy in America.

    • I.. adore.. this answer. Need a translator? “Hey there, you want to be shown you’re an uncultured snowflake without me outright saying it?”

  50. @16. Your not wrong about her, and yes waffles escaped one nasty ass lying bitch. She did not deserve such a person who is freaking amazing and has the best heart, but karma always has a way on getting back at those who deserve it and waffles is now so much happier without a 600 pound bull weighing him down with so much lies, also you think moving on to someone for a guy who likes to hump children avi’s. Like Why? Oh Right I know why, because trash always stick together right? Might as well burn like trash too right? hope you keep choking! cause literally that is all what your mouth is probably good for. :3  ✌ 

    • Wouldn’t that be fat shaming both of them because waffles is fat too? 💁 

    • Everyone figures out what a liar she is and I’m glad he figured it out. I hated to see her just use him to get back at Hardin like she does everyone else!

      She keeps deleting people thinking it’s them too when she doesn’t realize the problem is her lmao funny thing is she deleted one of my girls but not me who actually put her up here because she will never expect it to be me even when I’m standing right next to her 😂 that’s her karma because she’s hurt way too many people I adore and I’m sick of her

      So putting her up here with her pedo boyfriend had to be done! She knows it’s not a lie and prob keeps this from him too cause what fucking idiot would be with a girl who told her whole family and friends he wanted to fuck her on her kid avatar and other things ?

      Just wait tho, there is more because everyone knows this won’t last. She’s only taking this attention until he cheats on her to fulfill his other fetishes he has when she doesn’t give them up when he wants to get dicked down by another furry 🤮

    • No hate but who is she blaming this one on this time? I was family with her for awhile and all she ever did was blame people who aren’t around her anymore and turn everyone against them including who she is partnered to. I can 1000000% confirm she openly admitted he is into kid’s play when she was on hers, among many other things that are too gross to say. It’s actually really disappointing to see that she can’t love herself enough that she goes back to people like this

      Please do better Hadley

    • It seems more like she got rid of an 800 pound bull weighing her down. Waffles escaped her? Ever think that maybe she escaped him? Maybe he didn’t deserve her. Don’t judge or make assumptions on shit that you really have no clue about. You say Waffles was amazing and had such a great heart, well I know she is also pretty amazing and has always been kind to others. Why you so full of all this negative energy? Go outside and breathe some fresh air. Worry about you and not others.

      • Lmao this must be Hamatha commenting because you’re the only idiot who is still sticking around and that would actually take the time to try and defend her. Take a look at her track history girlie and then try saying things about her heart. 😂 She’ll get rid of you eventually too if you don’t end up leaving first

        She’s a user and used Waffles to get back at Hardin. If you knew anything about her you’d see she does this to every person she gets with. She can’t be alone and always has guys who she keeps close, calls them her “good friends and best friends” so when yet another relationship fails she has another dick to fall back on

        Everyone knows that. That is what she does. No attention from real life and she leached herself onto him for the time being until it wasn’t enough for her anymore. She was already talking to pedo boy before her and Waffles broke up but that’s okay! We’re all happy he doesn’t have to waste his time with her nasty ass anymore 😀

      • What Hadley are you talking about because you clearly are seeing the fake version she plays at first??! You have to be her only daughter she has left because you have not been in her life for over a year if you think she’s kind to others lol that’s her fake self showing but you just give it time sweet cheeks

    • Are we talking about the same Waffles/Rainn that went around looking for a mommy dom while she was offline due to her mom passing away? Because we all got the receipts and it’s not a secret.
      As for Hadley, she has her own faults. But, she has always been kind all the times I have spoke with her. It’s quite clear that whoever keeps putting her up here over and over has an obsession. Once someone is posted so many times, it loses its validity and potency. Move on, ya lookin crazy.

      • As if she wasn’t in other guys dm’s while they were together and while she was away dealing with her mom. She was already talking to her pedo here before they even broke up!
        You show yours and I’ll show mine because that’s not what she told people why they broke up. They were still in each other’s lives until she was put up here. So that wasn’t even a reason but nice lie 😂
        Also if you haven’t noticed this is a site for this bs so it won’t make anyone look crazy as it’s multiple people clearly and she continues to wrong people

  51. Which body has Belleza copied? I’ve heard it compared to a few I need more tea on it lol

    • Copied or not the body is utterly craptastic for the price and what the other bodies offer.

      • Yeah, but y’know the hos are going to buy it simply to get that vag that opens and closes so they can charge more for SL sex.

      • I’m sure you were one of the first to buy it. Stop projecting. BTW there are plenty of vags that open and close. No need to buy a whole new body for that.

    • People are saying it’s identical to Lagacy. Which, there are similarities but they don’t look exactly the same.

      • Every body is similar i mean lol they all have 2 legs, 2 arms, 2 hands, 2 foot… The differences are on details and weitght and stuff like that lol but when people do not have what to say they say crap like that.  😎 

    • LOL! None actually, but she was planting the seed and wants you to believe that they did by posting what she did. She’s not innocent in all this as she and her vile friends claim. I do hope Belleza’s lawyers take care of the whiny little bitch. She’s so gross. She really thinks she is more important than she really is. She’s garbage. She craves attention and can’t ever get enough. Keep feeding her! All her lawyer wannabe fans are hysterical btw! Really putting all their ignorance on display. I’d love to see the day she faces this same bullshit. Imagine the fucking scandal she’ll cause. All whiny and shit. Don’t think she won’t threaten with lawyers as well!

  52. Re: Belleza. Please tell me I’m not the only one who remembers them being accused of copying before.

    When I needed a mesh body for my adult av account, before bento was a thing, I grabbed demos of the popular ones including Belleza. They were only selling Venus in a fatpack with Isis and Freya then and there were signs all over the store to ignore harassment over stolen work. Grabbed the demo, got a direct message that I’d bought stolen work and my name would be added to some list. I asked the person about it and they said they’d sculpted Venus, Belleza stole their work, and there was gonna be a lawsuit. I decided I wanted no part of that and tossed the Belleza demos. Does anyone know what ever happened with that?

    • If i remember well Belleza was closed during the lawsuit, which they probably won because they are still in the market. Perhaps the person behind those messages was the one deserving a lawsuit for defamation. Even if Belleza stole Legacy work which i highly doubt lol they would be just stealing from a thief in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that  😂  😂  😂 

    • jesus Fu*K can we stop making up stories in our head :)))) is obs that lawsuit never happend bc they are still on the grid. stop lying and make things up! go check a doctor u might need it

    • Vaguely. I do remember that. I remember all the “support belleza” posts back then all over Flickr and the massive group photo of all these people in belleza bodies. I want to say it was between the phat azz owner and tricky with the lawsuit? Nothing ever came from it though. DMCAs can be expensive and time consuming if legally pursued. It just died out and nothing was ever said but I think all the signs are still up in the belleza store 😆

      • I guess they can use that saved money for their new slander lawsuit  😂 

    • You may be conflating a few things. Around the time mesh bodies dropped, Wowmeh and Belleza were both hit with frivolous DCMA claims. Belleza appealed theirs, and Second Life ruled in their favor that the body was not copied. Wowmeh, being a creator outside the US, did not have the resources to appeal and was subsequently taken off the market.

      The bottom line is that even after an investigation, nothing substantive was provided to prove Belleza violated anyone’s copyright, trademark, or IP.

      • Interesting. It wasn’t something I was involved with but I absolutely remember the experience because it was so weird. I also find it kinda weird that they got hit with that then did the whole “this is slander” PR nightmare years later.

      • “PR nightmare” is overstating it. I wouldn’t have heard about it at all if someone hadn’t clipped the comment without context. It’s a minor kerfluffle, and I bet Tricky and the Belleza team are gunshy, considering the nightmare of getting Venus launched.

  53. 21 – 100% correct. only a handful of them are problematic, really. nearly all of the furries I have ever met have been friendly, fun, incredibly talented and awesome friends to have.

    • Sadly the screamy stupid ones are the ones people remember and run into the most often because the good ones are quiet and don’t travel the grid as much I find.

      • And that comes full circle. The screamy, stupid furries are why the rest of the fandom isn’t welcome all over the place.

      • A few good ones travel too we are just quiet and tend to not make a fuss. I’ve found that places can and do tolorate us pretty well long as we aren’t well being a pain in the ass or creating a problem and following their rules.

        The issues come when people think that all of us are zoos and shit like that

    • Furries are and always have been some of the best content creators in SL too. A lot of their items have mod perms most of the time, and many even include textures or other developer files for further modification. If all creators (and mesh body creators) were that passionate I might be willing to spend more than L$99 on their items.

  54. I was lowkey expecting way more Belleza roasts. Dangit.
    I am disappointed  😂 

    • Just wait for the comment section to do its thing

      • I’m here for it!
        And the thumbs downs must be from what’s her face Belleza chick and someone else on ‘staff’ at that shit show of a PR disaster lol

      • Probably. They seem to not want people to know about any of the issues this body has, found out questions about the bento bones were brought up before the body even released and they wouldn’t give a straight answer.

      • ohh imagine that there are people who love the new body and are downvoting you all for the simple reason that you all cry about it like it personally affects your life. shocking!
        let us enjoy our new body and stfu if you dont like it. we dont care. you are a disaster, dont fall off your hate train, you might get hurt lmao

      • It’s affecting your life as you spent the L’s on it and don’t want to feel that you made a mistake in purchasing it. FOMO does that!

      • lmao you think some loser can belittle me for supporting a body i really like? i was always a belleza fan and i will continue supporting whatever i like rather than listen to someone like you, with tubes for godamn arms.

        this isnt communism you weirdo. arrogant too, thinking that you have the power to make me feel like i made a mistake with something i am happy with? lmao get over yourself you act like a communist. if you dont like belleza move the fuck on but stop whinning about it and let us enjoy our new bodies. whats wrong with you?

      • You’re one of the people who relentlessly tried body shaming people for liking maitreya lara. now you can feel the same way they did in knowing not everyone agrees with your assessment of a body you love. You cant pick and choose which bodies get “hated” on btw yet you belleza stans do just that. Hippocrits!

      • It’s “Hypocrites”. Something you clearly don’t know how to spell or know the meaning of. The irony in the hypocritical thing you just said is WILD. The fact you don’t see it it’s even wilder.
        But apparently I “relentlessly shame people” for wearing broken ass shit when they cant shut up and leave people be for enjoying a new body? When you do it in masses it’s “criticism” and “not hate” or bullying towards women who chose to support new products. If you don’t wanna feel “shamed” then stop shaming others. We got the same hate from lara-people when legacy came out!

        This thread is full of nasty responses to people who love the new gen x body, yet slightest clap back at Maitreya and you can’t handle it. lmao All this hate towards people who like this new body is disgusting. And it mostly comes from butt-hurt people who are too salty over slow death of their broken old body.

        I wear legacy myself but I demoed belleza and it’s miles ahead of broken maitreya that I was once promised would be fixed. They PROMISED to fix the arms and shoulders, but never did. As far as I’m concerned they fooled me.

        If you love it, good for you. No need for you to say any other garbage to Gen X gals. Keep your opinion to yourself if you don’t wish to be given an opinion you don’t like either.

      • The whole legs are just dumpy. I was really surprised.

      • Nah, I don’t know many women in real life whose calves curve out further than their thighs. I was a fan of Freya and Belleza in general for years, so I get proportional legs- these have gone too far.

      • The ankles are a def deal breaker. Don’t think many people noticed it looks like the default ruth cankles.

    • What’s so great about it to begin with? I haven’t tried it out (I watched a friend test the demo and upon first glance I couldnt tell that she wasn’t wearing her legacy but that could very well be because of her preferred shape) but for the price, I expected it to look….I don’t know, more defined or detailed perhaps? Is the HUD different or something? Is there more feature-wise?

      • Nope. You can’t even escape the onion layers for appliers, as if those are needed anymore; between those and the built in V, the body is overly complex, has dumpy calves that curve out further than the thighs do, a weirdly low-hanging crotch, and even the “Curvy” version has an enormous thigh gap- thighs that have almost no shape as well. It’s like Tricky forgot everything he knew about making thicker bodies when he made Freya and completely biffed this one.

  55. #5 Honest to god she didn’t do anything wrong. It’s just SL rumours.

    • The only people I’ve seen trash talking Ambix are people in the Sugarcult discord, which kinda speaks for itself in terms of credibility. Those people will criticize anyone who so much as breathes in the wrong key.

      • Nah, that bitch crazy too, don’t know what ya’ll are smoking.
        I wouldn’t be surprised if both of you were her on here. lmao

    • Hell nah, she’s done plenty wrong in the past and present.
      I don’t think therapy would work on a bitch that’ll twist the words of her therapist.

      • okay but please EXPLAIN what she did to catch so much shit???? It’s super funny how nobody is able to do that. they just pop in this hellsite’s comment section with AMBIX BAD and then dip with no explanation even when pressed. It’s goofy.

  56. The new Belleza is a POS, put a BoM alpha on it, it turns red…. NEW BODY not even FULL BoM, not even the rest of the shit that’s terrible in it, just a money grab and to try to stay relevant in the market of new bodies, buy an Ebody it’s mod good poly for what’s out there or well anything on the market other than that trash, even kupra is REAL BOM.

    • It also uses tail bones to animate the “X” part so if you have any other attachment that uses tail bones, too bad. Everything I’ve heard about it from friends is that it’s a glitchy mess.

      • Well then that just adds to my argument of it being craptastic, tried an alpha and the body went red, that’s when I stopped looking at it… well and the hud made me cry a blind man could design a better UI.

      • Some furry avatars shared photos of the body deforming their tails and breaking anything attached to the tail bones. It’s a hot mess.

      • Non-premium users get one animesh spot and that’s it, they have to use it for their tail (if it even has an animesh version) because Belleza rigged the body poorly? This ain’t it, chief. The tail bones were made for tails, not bits.

      • If you need two animesh attachments, stop being a cheap ass. And all this talk about tails, how many actually wear them and how many every damn day?

      • Every furry on Second Life does. Furries typically have tails. A lot use that animesh spot for their ears or an effect. Maybe go outside the human community once in a while.

      • Upgrade your membership if you need another animesh attachment. Again, it’s a simple solution. Y’all have money to buy lindens to mod your avatars, but when it comes to a membership that gives valuable benefits y’all cry about it and think everything should be freeeeee.
        I don’t belong to any particular community so let me ask it this way then since you have all the answers. What is the percentage of full time furries to full time humans in SL and what’s the percentage of those 2 groups that wear tails every day? Go!

      • It’s about equal? The human community and the furry community as the two biggest ones in Second Life as far as I know. Also as it’s being pointed out.. some humans wear tails. Think of it this way, how often does your avatar have a head? That’s how often a furry av has a tail.

        This is still silly “Belleza can’t rig right so ya’ll need to spend 5500k on their body then buy premium so ya’ll can use an extra animesh spot or ya’ll cheap asses wanting everything freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee”. A $20+ body can’t be rigged better? It can’t have an alternate rig?

        Of course, in the end, I can see this body replacing Lagacy which isn’t a bad thing but I think Maitreya is freaking immortal at this point and Reborn has a much better team behind it.

      • bento bones can be used as creatively as one wants to use them. it will allow creators make custom animations and accessories for it, opening the market to adult accessories that actually look and function well. what do you think bento cock & P uses? hind legs. are you crying about that too because many bento tails attach to hind legs making it incompatible.

        stay mad.  😂  i honestly couldnt care less if they used the tail for it. this isnt cater to only furries day. you have other options for tail. use them.

        the only thing thats rigged poorly is MAITREYA with broken ass weights and shoulders that put inflatable tube man jealous. but none of you are mad about that broken mess because you’re too cheap.

      • Stick to one name please. Maitreya blah blah blah. Not mad, just commenting.

        You know what actually uses hind bones? Riding horses. How much do you think human avs would be crying if their fancy new bits messed up a riding horse? Tails use tail bones, I asked around and no one could show me a tail that used hind bones. I was told hind bones are for riding horses, centaurs, 4 legged animals, and bits.

        Chill out. It’s just Virtual Secrets.

      • how about you don’t tell people what to do.  🤔 

      • I honestly love that you bring sanity and facts into this forum. Wish more would try to do so even though most is just gossip, lies and entertainment when bored. Thanks!

      • I heard people with tail attachments will have to use the new PG mod version they’re including, they’ll be no fix for the “X” one because they messed up on rigging it that badly.
        I can’t imagine paying 5500 for a body that advertises itself as the first to have fancy bits and being unable to use them. It’s kinda obvious they counted on that being their trump card and it’s broken.

      • The vagina looks awful anyway, I want to know what alien creature they were looking at as a reference because it wasn’t anything real.

      • The double fucking sucks, because the Discord led people to believe it was Session’s V they’d be getting with the body- easily the prettiest girl bits in SL- so if the included one is ugly that’s just fail at doing something no one needed anyway. What a fuckin disaster.

      • That was very disappointing, not gonna lie. “Fully animated vagina” turned out to be spread states with the ABILITY to be animated. 🤣 I don’t see anyone ever making anims for that vagina lmao.

      • Wait.. is that all it does? All this brokenness and high price and hype just for that? Yikes.

      • It’s actually possible that the Cuming Soon creator might, and she’s incredibly talented. However, her stuff will still work with the V too, so it’s not like the rest of us will be left behind; it’s still not any reason to buy them.

      • I did the.. uncomfy.. thing and asked around (on my adult avatar of course). The “V” uses hind bones to animate, that’s why it has a big old warning about Vista AOs because apparently, Vista has a bad habit unneeded hind bone twitches in their AOs. The “X” on Gen X uses tail bones so not only did they use subpart bits but animated them wrong.

      • considering it is a human body, I didn’t know they needed to worry about catering to people that try to hide bestiality behind some word furry. Don’t you lot have your own bodies already?

      • Sir, I’m a kid avatar. My body has no magical bento market changer and thank god. I have friends who are furries because we share one thing in common – I hate how overlysexual the human part of SL is and they hate how overlysexual the furry part of SL is. I’m going to blow your mind – furries use LLUV bodies for their mods just like you lot do. Friends use Reborn, Jake, Gianni, Freya, Maitreya, Legacy… same bodies you do, same clothes you do, and are as interested in bestiality as you are (you aren’t.. right?). Belleza has a lot of furry users so this was.. kinda dumb.

      • Could care less. Sorry but not. Do you really think your band of furry warriors is going to bring down well anyone? It’s a human body with massive sales and support already. Use another option as others already pointed out most of SL don’t give a rat’s ass about your tail or world and those that do think are sick in the head. It’s not broken or an issue because isn’t catered to your needs.

      • No sir and I don’t care about “bringing it down”. This is a gossip site.Where people gossip and talk smack or discuss things in SL. Usually they read replies too, you should work on your reading comprehension because I don’t have a tail and it’s weird you think a tail is some sort of sick thing? Good lord, keep away from animals in RL then, I hear they have tails too..

    • All you need to do is click the cog wheel next the the skin tones, and change it to mask. You can use BoM alphas then. I don’t understand why they put it to none by default lol.

      • I actually like it better than Lagacy. 😂 The only thing I disliked was the built in vagina, but they’ll have a version without it in the next update.

      • A version without the “never seen before innovative feature that would make it stand out”? sounds funny

      • That’s apparently what they’re going to add to fix the tail bones issue though.. so it is kinda funny. “Buy our body but if you use bento tail bones for any attachment, you can’t have our never seen before innovative feature that would make it stand out”.

      • Funny enough, I didn’t even notice the tail bone issue when I tried it because I have a deformer attached to my tail. So that’s also a fix for it in the meantime.

      • Good to know, will pass that on to my friends with furry avs and ask them if deformers fix it. Still not a great look to mess up that much content.

      • Let’s not pretend that every body brand hasn’t had issues on release. Reborn released last year having fucked up fingers. Mistakes and oversights happen.

      • True enough. I wouldn’t have known a thing about Gen X, how broken it is, or the tail bone thing if not for the “this is slander” comment that went around TBH. I don’t keep up with adult bodies.

      • what bs is that. its not “broken”. most people dont care about your stupid tail.
        you wanna talk broken body? let’s talk about the biggest trash there is: MAITREYA. that body has fucked weights to the point that it can never be fixed without a new wardrobe. they should have fixed it long ago, now its too late. you all got conned af by the creators with that joke tubes passing as arms.

      • Lara arms and shoulders are definitely awful, that’s for sure.

      • I don’t have a tail. Other people use the tail bones though. Belleza has a huge furry user base, you think they’d know better than to screw up this badly.

        Blah blah blah Maitreya blah blah blah.

      • Girl, she didn’t say it was copybotted, she said it was similar enough for her to decide not to rigg for it

      • She didn’t exactly say that. Even if it was implied, a big brand like Belleza should have known better. Ignoring genuine questions, critique, and disappearing for years but jumping right to a threat of a lawsuit and ‘slander” when some creator implies the body looks similar to another? That’s not giving me faith in their brand or how customer service will be handled.

      • reborn is still fucked and needs several deformers to make it wearable, maitreya shoulders are bulky, legacy has perma twat gap, etc etc etc in truth the tail thing really isnt that HUGE an issue considering most the people buying it are not buying to be furry in first place

      • The new Belleza bodies have that exact same huge thigh gap- even the curvy version of the body. It makes no sense. He knew better than to do that with curvy bodies when he made Freya, but somehow forgot since then?

      • no thigh gap in mine when demo’d and shaped. Maybe it’s your lack of shaping skills? I mean stop trying to jack the thigh width up without contouring the rest to match I guess.

      • I didn’t buy the bodies or waste any time trying to make shapes for them. I’m talking about the default included shapes made by Belleza, and the ones used by a creator I follow on Fllickr who is very talented at making shapes (Jade Sulfer-Nova of Nar Mattaru) to determine this. She posted a comprehensive review of the new bodies recently. She likes them, but she also managed to highlight to me every reason why I’m not interested. Here’s that review, if you’re interested: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jadeglaznersl/52405082245/in/dateposted/

        You can technically always pull your hip width in far enough to close a gap, if you don’t mind the weird leg overlap in most standing animations and definitely when you walk, and the way it makes the outer curve of the hips totally unnatural, but that doesn’t make shape of the mesh any less of a fail. So save your pathetic attempts at backhanded insults, and have fun standing around like a stork with one really wide, dumpy leg.

      • or you could make your own damn body instead of whinning about the things you dont like about it. we get it, its not for you.

      • I was a Belleza fan since way back, my first bodies were Venus and Freya, so I was stoked that he decided to get back in the game. My disappointment that he did such a completely unremarkable job of it is just as valid as any of your inane, repetitive opinions. Most likely, I have a much better basis for mine than you do yours.

      • There should have been a version without it on release. Also never seen them use those words. 😜

      • Kinda did. Not in those terms exactly but they did advertise Gen X as the first with included bento bits.

    • Sorry to tell you but your information is wrong. The body is full BOM just it was not set to Default on release which was an oppsie made before packaging the body to sell. All you need to do is hit the cogwheel and select. There are 3 different settings. There is also a discord that can help you if you are confused. But, spreading false information is bad on your part.

    • Ebody looks like a balloon animal without extreme modification. And if that’s your look, I love that for you. The Gen.X Classic has a gorgeous shape out of the box. And even the Curvy looks like a realistic thiccums body, where the legs are not toothpicks compared to the butt and torso.

      Having said all that, I could never work customer service, because I feel like people don’t even bother to read the extant documentation before they start complaining.

      • Most people don’t understand proportion. You can argue that fact all you want but “bloggers”, Flickr, product ads, and even included shapes prove otherwise. I’ve seen some avatars that were Ebody that I never would have guessed were Ebody because they looked so normal and actually good and I’ve seen people wearing Gen X with old skin, prim eyes, balloon boobs, and looking straight out of 2010 thanking Belleza for their “new” look.

        It’s not 100% the body, it’s the shape and skin too. There are just as many super ugly Gen X looks as there are for any other body. It already needs deformers already to get basic body parts to work.

        I dunno, I think you can’t work CS because of other reasons.

    • lmao you dont know what “real” bom means. all it does is switches the parts on the body to use BOM textures. sorry to break it to you… thats all the bom toggle script does in all of the bodies. its the same system as any other body uses.

  57. for all the belleza posts I’m about to see…. my favorite part is that the original FB post she commented that on did not contain a single brand or body name. she;s just out here assuming everything is about her… and threatening to sue over it.

      • They’re actually not idiots. They are trying to protect their brand and work just as Riot would do! FFS they have an event going on and she’s trying to ruin it. Maybe because she isn’t part of it?! Danielle knew exactly what she was doing from the very first moment. Anyone who can’t see that is wilfully ignorant. Use your fucking brains.

      • No, The Truth is right. A big brand has to act a bit more professional than a Twitterina when they’re trying to sell a product. They probably should have ignored Danielle if she doesn’t really matter and just does stuff like this. Instead, someone went off half cocked and now there’s a meme that’s gonna go around forever and haunt them. Don’t make excuses, Belleza said something stupid.

    • as someone who saw the original thread, I have to laugh, there are differences between those two bodies, while it subtle its there , and as someone who did buy the GenX Curvy, and has nearly every other major body in world, it is a lot different in world. my last point on this, the same person that got threatened, back in August stated that she would not rig for any of the new bodies coming out, as she felt they where not original, so some more food for thought

      • The shape between the two looks very similar in the dev kit, the reason why people say they are different inworld is because of the weights (rigg) which are probably different and have a different effect from the edit appearence sliders making the body enhance those differences inworld. But the fact that they’re too similar in the dev kit does raise an eyebrow.

      • That post is still pinned, but if I had to guess she was just looking at the kits to try to decide if it could be taken on and not be a huge workload to rig for like Kupra is (which i think is what that post referred to about not taking on new rigs). Smart creators will usually do that.

      • If she spent half of the time she spends trashing people (customers, non customers and designers) on Facebook, she could rig a few more bodies. She just thinks her shit don’t stink.

      • Urgh Danielle using her disability to garner sympathy. Poor disabled girl can’t take a poop without breaking a bone.. I mean has she ever broken a bone? She wields her disability to get favor and sympathy and more importantly – sales.. She slandered Belleza by saying they copybotted, and that call made other people repeat it. Disabled or not she should be taken to court as it is 100% slander. Feed that donut to ya dog! (sugary foods, like donuts, are not good for pets)

    • The owner of Belleza is a guy.

      Also that isn’t even true, she was posting the names of the bodies she used in the comments lmao.

    • Good luck finding clothes for it in the future, once the hype has passed I doubt the few creators creating for it will keep doing it

      • Belleza will do another job like they did with Isis, Freya and Jake. they won’t support it after so long, no more updates. Go off the grid. Pop on promise updates once a year for three years and not deliver. Out Comes this Gen X, it will go by the Wayside soon enough.

        Oh, and the Areolas around the nipples are insanely huge……

      • so are mine rl, got an issue with it? tends to happen often with larger natural tits. When is last time seen a real tit that wasn’t an A cup?

    • Enjoy your crappy non true BoM body, crap hud, and empty wallet.  😘 

      • you do realize theres a toggle right? Theres an alpha HUD and BOM alpha option. I mean is it that difficult to read directions?

      • With all the other glaring problems of the body, yes it was. Still a hard pass.

      • What exact problems? I mean I keep seeing you say this but no actual context of what the issue is. Tails? Frankly I don’t give a damn they didn’t cater to bunch a people wanting to fuck animals in disguise after all it is HUMAN body. I have the demo; I am not seeing these huge issues seem to claim there are. Enlighten us.

      • How many names did you post under? Just because you’re right about Maitreya arms doesn’t mean you’re not an obnoxious dumbfuck.

    • IKR! Even haters can be good advertisers  😂  😂  😂  spread love or hate but spread.

      • Yea to steer clear of this body and spend your lindens on something else!  😂 
        Thing is people have legit negatives to this body other than I just don’t like the shape or style of the body, no it’s just outright bad.
        Buyer Beware.

      • Same as many have legit positives to those bodies. So what? If everyone only liked yellow there would be no reason for other colors to exist. Were they answering to a negative feedback or to an accusation? Because that matters, i mean to have the full context. 😉 

        Let people spend their money where they want to, you do not pay their bills, so why do you feel entitled to dictate where others can or cannot spend their bucks?  :wpds_unamused: 

      • What have you ever made? A prim maybe? What a decent person would say is try the demo. Let everyone make their own decision. You’re part of the garbage SL base I can see. Or the ones who want everything for free.  🖕 

      • go back to your broken maitreya con job. *waves goodbye in NON-wacky inflatable tube man arm style*

      • Why do you assume everyone who’s unimpressed with those new bodies uses Maitreya? What a dumbass straw man. I wouldn’t be caught dead in Maitreya- demoing it was all I needed to see how inferior it was, even when Slink Physique and Venus were the only other options, and there’s a lot more options now. Some of us just have very high attention to detail, and GenX has some seriously disappointing details. Maybe they’ll be addressed in updates, but we’ve all seen how often those come from Belleza, unfortunately. It took literally years just to get full BOM implemented. At this point, if you end up waiting similar lengths of time, it’s a “fool me twice, shame on me” situation.

  59. #36 She’s a joke – all the shit talking she did about belleza and there she is, on the day of release getting her copy of the body and shit. Total Hypocrite.

    • I can’t stand that bitch, but why would anyone not at least try the demos. You must live a boring life. Probably a platform dweller and VS shit poster.

      • cuz she went and bought the body, not only demo’d it, after all the shitty remarks and posts she made about Belleza and Tricky. Thats the difference and thats what makes her a hypocrite. Not even a ‘sorry i was wrong’. Fuckin’ joke like the OP said and so is your platform dweller comment too. Pity you assumed because you made sense with all of your responses in the comments, til now  👍 

  61. THis iS sLaNdErRrRrr… 😅  😂  😂  😂 

    • yeahhhh.

      Slander isn’t even the right term. Would be libel, but I digress. lmao

    • Another of Danielle’s bullies and Riot gang members. Y’all are sick and need help.

      • Yeah, that’s us. Supporting a creators choice to not rig for a body when the dev kits look similar enough that she doesn’t want to waste her energy. We’re the bullies. Get a grip lol

    • I’ll go first I guess. Lets start with how she literally thinks people are obsessed with her. I asked her a question in Petrichors discord and then later on comes at me asking what my problem is.
      https://gyazo.com/503756e19983fb015ba045f033460e1d
      https://gyazo.com/c7d3e80b92c188c2bfbe03d3e6e8d724
      https://gyazo.com/8c7d1dbe6f1fd456b3c85d1cd5aa9825
      We’ve shared groups for several years, on SL, in discord and she also has come to ones im in before she is. But she really doesn’t understand that flickr, FA, and discord doesn’t stop people from seeing your posts. It just stops you from seeing theirs. The only one that does that is twitter and even then you post a link in a discord for twitter, can still see the content on it so long as the link isn’t opened.

      Fast forward to earlier this year when I asked a mutual about her fae dragon she claimed to be copybotted/stolen. My partner/mate on SL used to be one of her harem members, he got her a lot of art with the two of them as well as just for her. Her ref sheet. https://www.furaffinity.net/view/47380605/ Paid for by him.
      I wanted to see who she sold it to so i could make sure his art or my friend red’s (That’s another issue to unpack later) Wasn’t sold with it. Well apparently im not allowed to ask about that, or talk to mutual friends?
      https://gyazo.com/cbf4dab39f7e8c2b5613efac443f6ac8
      https://gyazo.com/d5a84258f119a7b164c1c92eccc06353

      This is only just a bit of what happened to me recently. How ever, there’s a LOT of shit she’s done to others. Some of which don’t wish to be involved because they’re afraid she will come back at them and start her tirade up against them again. Several years of being abused, manipulated and attacked and a chance to share their stories and this bitch has them that scared of coming out that they can’t fucking do it.

      That’s not even touching on kodine or the guild and that whole fucking situation.

      • As I said more issues than National Geographic and everyone has at least one issue, and just like the magazine, if you’re reading it you’re probably dealing with shit.

      • All of this is BS. You’re literally the problem here. Fucking narcissistic bitch at its finest.

        Also do you have a job? You’re here every week, talking about others CONSTANTLY, people that have moved on from you. Air out your own smelly garbage instead.

      • https://media.tenor.com/7IQjJTKejV0AAAAC/okay-ok.gif

        For those who don’t believe me, go and look up the convo yourself

        Petrichor’s discord: https://discord.com/invite/mRU7MtF
        https://discord.com/channels/576084961644249148/617913870496825356/836736206574059590

        https://i.gyazo.com/192a176787d1a7eecf5580bf919c69bf.jpg

        Just a quick look through Petrichor’s discord we see a MOD being a right little shit toward a regular user claiming that they got a “custom”.

        https://i.imgur.com/7VDCU86.png

        Now a color swap is one thing, but a custom means so much more in the long run, ESPECIALLY to skin creators. Skitz is known to blow things out of proportion. And to see a MOD reply like this to someone and jump the gun is just annoying

        I even contacted Zack about this and he simply clarified the situation confirming that after this exchange of words, he got blocked…for what? Petty bullshit. That’s all this is, petty bullshit. He even stated they had an issue in the past regarding his sona, so why is this causing such a rift when they’ve talked things out before?

        https://i.imgur.com/2nUFvSr.png

        it’s always interesting to see them blow things out of proportion, but when they’re in the spotlight they have to “clarify” what they said. How bout next time be truthful and you won’t have to come back and correct yourself?

      • This is the stupidest most inane “drama” ever. This barely qualifies as something people should even be complaining about. How is this something that has you so upset? Man people need hobbies.

      • Time to avoid Zack cause you and him LOVE to shit on random people and collect beef on them 🙂 Thanks for this information! Banning from my Sim lmao

      • Wow….I mean wow.

        It takes a special kind of person to take information verification and turn it into something completely different.

        Please keep in mind, if you actually checked the logs it was ME WHO APPROACHED him about this. He didn’t need to respond nor did he need to provide ANY of the information I asked for which was two things, and none of them was leaked or private information. All I asked was to clarify his situation with Zudrial as it was a rumor that spread around for a bit in the furry SL clubs.

        In my post he not only defended them, but he confirmed the information I had asked for even stating that “it’s no big deal” DEFENDING THEM despite being blocked on a single site.

        There’s nothing in here about collecting beef. He was one of the people involved and all he did was provide confirmation about a situation without attacking zudrial or even trying to escalate the issue. He simply answered and kept it quiet

        Unlike you who LOVE to slander people and jump the gun, he handled things like a mature adult. There’s no rant on twitter, no rumors, no bullshit.

        I have an idea! How about a challenge. show me a situation where Zack has caused any drama that had him at fault and source the information using their twitter.

        Go ahead I’ll wait 🙂

        TLDR: you can’t, I would’ve already roasted em if there was

      • Save it.

        Everyone now knows you go to Zack to collect “tea” on people and you’ve just shit in your own nest. No one wants someone like that around them, people have the right to know and protect themselves from whatever you and him may come up with for this website.

        I’m not even just referring to this screenshot – you’re that much of a silly little goose you posted screenshots of you asking for tea on certain people somewhere else in this thread. Which after talking to a few different people now adds up that Zack has been running his mouth to you about them and has previously posted about how bad VS is Hm?

        I’d ALSO source the information but I don’t care enough to look at someone’s twitter who has pretended to be multiple people in the community’s friend to then report on them to feed some wack job like you online that lives off it. He was behind the whole Geld thing posting shit about her left right and centre so I can’t be surprised.

        Also how are you going to sit and accuse me of slander when that’s all you do week in week out on this website? You, Dilila and now Zack. Keep making yourselves look stupid I guess.

        Keep stumbling over yourself it’s fucking incredible.

      • https://media.tenor.com/mE20arqB7kQAAAAC/oh-god-help-me.gif

        Oh my you’re THAT dense huh? Alright since you so graciously decided to try and counter me lets have some fun. And I’m again going to use YOUR post and YOUR words to turn this around because you shot yourself in the foot multiple times

        Everyone now knows you go to Zack to collect “tea” on people and you’ve just shit in your own nest. 

        On the contrary, I’ve never gone to Zack once. I’ve only gone to Dilila once to prove that everything wasn’t as it seems considering last weeks post and I used her account to prove I can just as easily manipulate the contents to make up a fake story. You can also see that Zack was nowhere on my recent tab showing that I hadn’t contacted them since.

        You can read and view it yourself right here from last weeks post hun
        https://virtual-secrets.com/virtual-secrets/virtual-secrets-week-734/#comment-83524

        https://i.gyazo.com/817cfb68a7c12c534f60e421fe3feebb.png

        I’d ALSO source the information but I don’t care enough to look at someone’s twitter who has pretended to be multiple people in the community’s friend to then report on them to feed some wack job like you online that lives off it.’

        Soo what you’re telling me is you couldn’t find any information. Perfect. It’s always interesting to listen to the “whack jobs” counter me when you can’t even give a shred of evidence that someone I decide to defend is bad. I don’t see how hard that is, I do it all the time. Yet you can’t source ONE FUCKING THING to prove your point. You just confirmed my case because if Zack was as bad as you say he is, I would’ve already roasted him.

        Plus your full of bullshit so lets look at some FACTS for once.

        He was behind the whole Geld thing posting shit about her left right and centre so I can’t be surprised.

        LMAO no he wasn’t. Geld made the first post and INGA or Moon made the follow up.

        https://twitter.com/INGATORII/status/1287853588765696006

        As a CSR of the store it seems normal for him to defend a store he works at doesn’t it? Also that drama has already been cast aside and forgiven with Geld and Zack who seem to be on good terms, as does yamiko and moon. So if they were really the ring leader, why are they friends?

        Which after talking to a few different people now adds up that Zack has been running his mouth to you about them and has previously posted about how bad VS is Hm?

        Again, no he hasn’t. Where’s the evidence that he’s shared anything with me aside from confirming skitz blocked him on their PERSONAL twitter? Where’s the evidence about Geld, Suda, Kira, or how about Tim and Squid since you’re so adamant about that one?

        I’ll tell ya, NOTHING. Everything I HAVE POSTED IS PUBLIC. I have sourced every fucking thing I’ve used to call out hypocrisy and it’s the same here. Zack was asked to confirm something, HE DEFENDED SKITZ, and that was it. He had ample opportunity to be a petty one and leak everything between him and skitz, but did he…NO! He literally confirmed the bare minimum which was totally optional btw. It’s funny how your “people” can make all these claims, but the proof doesn’t add up honey. 

        Zack has been accused of multiple things on twitter and on VS so lets check that shall we?

        Nazi/Nazi supporter – During the whole geld thing another uproar on furry twitter started when user EXTC or furry daddy decided to get high and start some drama. Zack happened to post a picture and it was quickly taken out of context (again gaslighting) and he quickly controlled the situation and made his own post about the situation as recommended by the accusing party.

        https://twitter.com/SlZack/status/1345569059203473410

        Groomer supporter – Again an accusation made by Tim and his dumb little entourage consisting of 5 people. You don’t need to look far, I already covered this already as it was quite the stunt. Zack not only proved this wrong but he confirmed more slander by EXTC and their partner meatjuice due to SL Furs which is just a big cespool of drama

        https://twitter.com/SlZack/status/1532113860693327872

        Offending the trans/drag community – what, how, who?
        Funny how they cause such an uproar and attack others, but get so sensitive when they’re the ones being attacked 🤣

        https://twitter.com/SlZack/status/1532113860693327872

        So it’s okay to call out people publicly, but when someone does it vaguely it can be ignored? Granted both situations are shitty, but we can’t just ignore one and support the other.

        https://twitter.com/FurDaddyFFXIV/status/1578130326999760899
        https://twitter.com/meatjuiceOwO/status/1509944120776994816

        Stalking – Do I even need to bring up the kira situation? Where some random attention wanting fear mongering threat spewing lying piece of shit tried to claim that Zack and his twin brother were stalking/harassing them?

        The accusations were quickly proven quite the opposite when Ryan came in and instantly shared the conversation, Zack confirmed the case where Kira had thrown death threats and harassed him during events. Oh and to confirm one thing, that little death threat bullshit, yea that was leaked ON THIS VERY SITE months before Zack went public with the censored version provided here. If he was involved more than what was shown he not only has the uncensored logs but more information and probably all the contacts involved. So yea I don’t believe a word kira said especially when they deleted ALL their accusations and tried to hide away. Just like Tim it’s a big sign you’ve been caught.

        https://twitter.com/SlZack/status/1499219641607942144
        https://twitter.com/IRyanISL/status/1499881913439322112

        So lets see…that’s 4 FUCKING ACCUSATIONS shot down and debunked. And you sit here trying to tell me that he’s one of the bad guys.

        you posted screenshots of you asking for tea

        And what makes this any different for ANY conversation? I can easily change my name and make it more offensive, plus you seem to believe that it’s legit when I already showed last week that ANYTHING CAN BE MANIPULATED. So there’s HAS to be some truth to my words if you’re claiming that our conversation is true. This same method was used to try and defend ravenskye and that got shot down just as quick. All she did was deflect on others claiming they have a grudge.

        Also how are you going to sit and accuse me of slander when that’s all you do week in week out on this website? You, Dilila and now Zack. Keep making yourselves look stupid I guess.

        Dilila does what she wants, I’ve already made it abundantly clear that she’s not clean, neither is skitz, neither is suda. They were ALL friends at one time so that tea goes deep. Zack hasn’t done a god damn thing on this site and from how he contacted suda about it I see no plans for him to ever post or comment here.

        Speaking of friends, having Dilila AND Suda in your friend groups must be pretty stressful. Idk how he handles it xD

        https://twitter.com/SlZack/status/1525970334171938816

        And to bring up another fact since y’all are so convinced. I’ve made it pretty clear Tim has tried to attack others in order to get clout, but when people have clout and genuinely don’t care you can easily tell who they are.

        lets look at that shall we, Zack currently has almost 1.2k followers on twitter and I’m sure it’s not going to stop. He’s getting close to passing Muregon (1.46k) if he keeps it up. They BOTH were accused of the whole grooming thing and Tim has like 500.

        Why is it that the small ones always try to attack the big ones? Oh right because reputation is a thing, and if they manage to win they might gain more which is why Tim was trying his hardest to attack a bunch of the SL photographers with a higher following because of his own hatred for furry porn. Seriously this dude attacks a group because they didn’t credit items and it was just smut, but he’ll make an AD account and complain on main about people not tagging properly 🤦‍♂️

        Newsflash: Zack has been sourced to be in contact with Linden Labs. If he wanted he could easily get in touch with them and cause some petty drama and even get some immunity from all this harassment. He’s part of the SL spotlight program meaning he’s going to be the face of the fucking furry community on the main website. Clearly they shouldn’t listen to him since he’s such a bad guy right?

        Here’s a quick question, if he’s as bad as you say he is, REPORT HIM. You gotta have something worth sending to LL on hand don’t ya? There has to be something that we can submit that would get his sorry ass off the face of the grid, they have ALL the sources and material in that little server hub of theirs so why don’t they do anything?

        Well I got one for ya, actions speak louder than words. And your petty temper tantrum tells me and everyone else here just how “valid” your accusations are compared to the multitude of proven source material I present here and in the future.

        I mean c’mon, it’s not like I get payed to do this professionally. Use that little brain of yours, I’m sure you’ll figure it out. Once again another individual has jumped on the bandwagon to try and accuse someone genuine in the community using lies, slander, and hearsay. You tried to claim you had evidence, yet when given the opportunity to present the facts you simply stated that “I don’t care enough”.

        So to once again use your own words in this post which obviously wasn’t needed since you can’t convince stupid…Keep stumbling over yourself it’s fucking incredible.

        Also you need to get your facts straight, the only reason I’m defending him is because he’s shown he’s worth defending. Geld did the same when she finally manned up and started to change, the whole UMBRA/Yamiko/Geld thing is done. That doesn’t mean everything is gone and I will sure call it when I see it, but until there IS something to comment about that isn’t tim fucking shooting himself is the foot, a pedo or zoo attacking others yet doing it in secret, or your sorry ass coming here with fake facts, I don’t think I need to say much else. So unless you got any factual proof, you ain’t got shit on my honey. Have a nice week

        https://media.tenor.com/34Q-6XlnCe4AAAAC/drop-the-mic-mic-drop.gif

      • And that’s why your ratio is slowly changing right? Holy fuck I’ve never heard gaslighting this pathetic in a while

        “My people say he’s bad and I’m going to believe them despite providing absolutely no evidence to their claim and throw more names into the mix to sound smart!”

        I’d bet you would fucking listen to Dilila if she didn’t broadcast her name. The fact you’ll attempt to bend the truth just because someone YOU clearly don’t like is giving valid proof.

        Hot take: asking questions from people involved isn’t drama. It’s called information gathering and investigation dumbass. And when you make such a lazy excuse to someone that can literally write a multi page essay about how bullshit your false claim is without triggering the post flag probably has more credit than you and your few “friends” ever will. That is IF you stay longer than a week on the site like every fucker that has TRIED to say shit.

        Ooooo someone broke the law by doxing and is being an asshole so people share their experiences, better fucking shift the blame by going off on someone else and pin them for some other shit I’ll make up on the fly.

        Didn’t dilila get accused of knowing exposed’s true identity? Well I’d love to know how that gets revealed just like this sorry excuse of a deflection!

        Keep making excuses, you’re already confirming what was already said and the entire reason the post exists.

      • Actually, I’ve tested out that theory with the whole ” If dilila didn’t broadcast her name, you’d listen. ” Guess what, people DID listen. I spoke the truth about leo, used an anonymous name on here and you guys listened, but when my name is brought up it’s deflected to me being the punching bag.

        It seems to be a common deflection when it comes to shitty people. Someone does something shitty, illegal, toxic, something the community is against, but oooooh noooo. Because Dilila, exposed, or someone else that people generally dislike is saying something about it, it no longer fucking matters and the person is excused for their shit.
        ZUDRIAL FUCKING DOXXED SOMEONE!!! Not once, not twice, but MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES! Not to mention fucking tried to ruin their life on SL and pretty much real life. Like seriously? You’re going to excuse that shitty behaviour just because exposed and I commented on it and exposed is doing their fucking research? ASKING QUESTIONS like you lot SHOULD be doing?

      • EvErYoNe kNoWs THEY’RE TrOuBlE

        And yet you got hit with sources showing it was all lies and fake bullshit. It wasn’t even the focus of the post and you tried to attack another. Now that sounds familiar.

        Keep crying karen. Nobody gonna believe your bullshit.

      • I do owo, why do you think im not up here? I keep myself an open book. I’ve already aired out my shit multiple times, I’ve never claimed to be a saint or a good person, I don’t walk around acting like my shit don’t stink, it does. But glad to see i fucking called it last week…. Would you like to give me my money since you’re pulling me into the punching bag position again? There’s a fee required now for me to take this position to save people from being exposed.

      • And you expect us to believe your truth?

        At least Dalila is running around being loud with recipes! All you got is your dumb lil mouth and nothing to back it up.

        Skitz legit BROKE THE LAW by doxxing someone. What did dil do on vs, oh right called out a pedo and zoophile.

        Doxxing someone is wrong period! They shouldn’t be able to join any event after such a mess.

        The theft and shitty behavior is just icing on the shitcake.

      • Oh I’m just the tip of the iceberg, the shit underneath the water is still coming. It might end up being a post or two long. We’ll see if it hits the character limit. But that’s not my story to tell…. It’s one of skitz’s biggest victims.

      • Now if we hop onto Kodine. We have something to unpack there, my experience started back in fursona. Where Skitz was a manager there. Was kind of wishy washy on her being a manager, but aside from her banning suda from the group, she did decently. I can give her a point there.
        And sadly i don’t have screenshots for these except for private conversations that sadly don’t give full details like i would like.
        And I actually DO have screenshots, surprisingly. But here’s one reason why we wanted her gone.
        https://gyazo.com/9fbd883dd4d31bb87e7a3f278a87abb3
        https://gyazo.com/45fabcb1ac6278cf332a11ec1808f14b
        Now the issue was done and over with for a good HOUR, before suda had terra, at the time, hermes and twitch come in to white knight for her.

        But kodine didn’t see anything wrong with this.
        Even after that and MANY other issues regarding suda and her gang. It came down to a vote. https://linkto.run/p/WY2VX0NK we did two votes. one on the poll and one in the discord, mainly because people wanted to be anonymous when voting. We had 18 staff members and over half voted to boot suda out. But what happened? Azu and I were blamed by rayne and rayne threw a hissy fit because she was the only one who actually voted to keep suda. Since kodine wasn’t allowed and frankly rayne shouldn’t have voted either. Well since she got out voted, she said she was leaving fursona and hung her friendship with kodine over kode’s head. And that’s when fursona closed for the first time. It re-opened a time later under a new name. But that also didn’t last long.

        Fast forward to earlier this year. Where the blog manager for the guild had left and in comes kodine, ok, round 2 of the fun. So this is where skitz comes in again. So skitz gets hired up by none other than her own SL mother, kodine. Favoritism at it’s finest since she was hired at every other event that kodine is manager at.
        Well, seems Nams was told about skitz’s Doxxing and harrassment and she was removed within the week. During the time of blogging, kodine changed out a lot of the rules, one of which being we have to play telephone with her, or another moderator to speak to the creators about getting a product, or getting a special color or something to better suit our photo’s. My instance was needing bump maps for the reborn for beanz skin. I had asked for either getting the material maps either the uuid’s so i can do it myself, or for an applier. Well going through the telephone Kode told beanz that I said they would provide UUID’s for the materials when I didn’t. I said some creators do, not all of the and after they messaged me directly telling me this i just asked for what I needed directly. Got it done pretty quickly and efficiently.
        https://gyazo.com/15e38be0e13e090f08e434dbd4215178

        It honestly became a lot more difficult for the bloggers with this new rule because we have to play telephone and also wait for not 1 reply, but 2 replies. One from the admin we contacted and one from the creator themselves.
        Fast forward to this round. Rules changed again, flickr became manditory, you CANNOT be a blogger without flickr, even if you have twitter or your own blog page. You all know my opinion on that…. Well now skitz is back… Why is skitz back? They have been fired before because of their doxxing and harassment…. Apparently a chance was given? Ok a chance was given, but you didn’t give another chance to others who harassed people… They got perma banned from the guild staff. Why is skitz any different? Well, i’ll tell you why… Kodine. favoritism.

      • You know what I’m breaking my year-long break from this websight. I’m going to say for the record. I never posted on here I blocked this damn sight off everything. I couldn’t use it.

        Dilila Quit using my name to benefit you and your stupid arguments about things that happened years ago. After years and years of abuse, remember how because you liked a guy; you told him I use my mental issues as a way to get attention? yet you sit here talking about things I’ve been through with people I now resolved?Then you sit here and bring up my name so many times calling me out and thinking I post on here to harass you when in all honesty I can give a rat ass about you. You are such a fucking narcissus who hasn’t changed at all calling people out on this stupid sight to benefit your ego. What’s so funny about you typing this, you are still a part of the guild staff and only didn’t be staff because you white knighted over the Flickr laws of showing your pussy which you do already enough on Twitter. I don’t agree with anything that happened with anyone, I’m not friends with you or anyone (god forbid I did that 6 times, and every time you have taken advantage of me. Oh yeah remember how I basically got you in the guild by talking to the manager and taking a very shitty picture up which I only keep up because someone passed away that was dear to me was featured in it) You keep white knighting over this community when you are the biggest fucking problem in it by doing this and not letting things go. You have not changed or grown because you are still here on this website thinking your doing justice instead of taking care of your family and yourself. Timestamp of you still being in the group as you talk bad
        (1422) Discord | #welcome | The GUILD Backstage – Google Chrome (gyazo.com)
        (1422) Discord | #blogger-chat | The GUILD Backstage – Google Chrome (gyazo.com)

        You quit because you didn’t want flickr pro, which you don’t even need for the blogging that the guild wants which isn’t nsfw, its your own pettiness and ego. No one is being favored, no one. You want things bent over backward for your will. So instead of using my name and everything, I do to rub your metaphoric drama dick. I made it clear years ago i was done after you time and time again abused me for everything, messaging my sl partners, telling people to stay away from me, having guys you been with telling me to kill myself and how trash i was then being my friend after he stopped being with you to be with someone else. Yeah, i remember that. So the next time you use someone’s name remember the awful fucking shit you did to them before thinking its a good idea to use there name to benefit your bullshit, your drama, and whatever actions to call whoever out on this game. When honestly we know you live for this shit. So im going back to minding my own buisness. Reblocking this sight after someone so kindly told me my name was being used again. And living my life. I sincerely wish you fucking grow up to benefit everyone who has the misfortune of ever meeting you dilila because you are my biggest regret ever.

      • You know what I’m breaking my year-long break from this websight. I’m going to say for the record. I never posted on here I blocked this damn sight off everything. I couldn’t use it.
        Dilila Quit using my name to benefit you and your stupid arguments about things that happened years ago. After years and years of abuse, remember how because you liked a guy; you told him I use my mental issues as a way to get attention? yet you sit here talking about things I’ve been through with people I now resolved?Then you sit here and bring up my name so many times calling me out and thinking I post on here to harass you when in all honesty I can give a rat ass about you. You are such a fucking narcissus who hasn’t changed at all calling people out on this stupid sight to benefit your ego. What’s so funny about you typing this, you are still a part of the guild staff and only didn’t be staff because you white knighted over the Flickr laws of showing your pussy which you do already enough on Twitter. I don’t agree with anything that happened with anyone, I’m not friends with you or anyone (god forbid I did that 6 times, and every time you have taken advantage of me. Oh yeah remember how I basically got you in the guild by talking to the manager and taking a very shitty picture up which I only keep up because someone passed away that was dear to me was featured in it) You keep white knighting over this community when you are the biggest fucking problem in it by doing this and not letting things go. You have not changed or grown because you are still here on this website thinking your doing justice instead of taking care of your family and yourself. Timestamp of you still being in the group as you talk bad
        (1422) Discord | #welcome | The GUILD Backstage – Google Chrome (gyazo.com)
        (1422) Discord | #blogger-chat | The GUILD Backstage – Google Chrome (gyazo.com)
        You quit because you didn’t want flickr pro, which you don’t even need for the blogging that the guild wants which isn’t nsfw, its your own pettiness and ego. No one is being favored, no one. You want things bent over backward for your will. So instead of using my name and everything, I do to rub your metaphoric drama dick. I made it clear years ago i was done after you time and time again abused me for everything, messaging my sl partners, telling people to stay away from me, having guys you been with telling me to kill myself and how trash i was then being my friend after he stopped being with you to be with someone else. Yeah, i remember that. So the next time you use someone’s name remember the awful fucking shit you did to them before thinking its a good idea to use there name to benefit your bullshit, your drama, and whatever actions to call whoever out on this game. When honestly we know you live for this shit. So im going back to minding my own buisness. Reblocking this sight after someone so kindly told me my name was being used again. And living my life. I sincerely wish you fucking grow up to benefit everyone who has the misfortune of ever meeting you dilila because you are my biggest regret ever.

      • just wanna chime in to say that flickr was mandatory even before the blogger manager staff change in The Guild. This is not new.

      • So we’re gonna ignore the part where Skitz was fired for doxxing and harassment but got let back in somehow?

        I think flickr isn’t the main focus here friendo.

    • Speaking of thieves, as if Petrichor’s owner is some bastion of morality. She herself is a well-known one along with many other questionable things. She has done far worse in some of her own Discord servers than anything these people in them could amount to, as shown on here and other places posted throughout the internet have shown.

      Birds of a feather flock together.

    • This is the stupidest most inane “drama” ever. This barely qualifies as something people should even be complaining about. How is this something that has you so upset? Man people need hobbies.

    • [Part-1]

      Screenshots cannot be provided for everything as some things are far too old. 2012-2022 as well some people do not wish to be involved in this so i don’t have permissions to show logs regarding some of the situations. 

      So where on earth do i even begin. I guess here? https://tellonym.me/ZudrialRose/answer/3375831300 Since she claims that i wont leave her alone right? An just in case the post is deleted https://gyazo.com/5890269efb69ebc08e22e10944b2e4c1

      So your telling me for the past 5years not one person has made you upset? Because I find that hard to believe. So lets start off with me lying to her about my gender since she was around for it. Years ago I had my first an only relationship that was online an RL that started on Imvu ((2012 maybe? It was like a decade ago)). For 2years I was with this ex. Zudrial/Skitz should remember since she was around for that nasty breakup, got me out of a dark head space an endless booze. After that I was TRULEY DONE with anyone that wasn’t in my area code an she knew this. ((What’s funny is my Ex lied to her as well for those 2 years that i was male, talk about double standards right? but we’ll get back to my ex later)) I honestly thought she would have respected that fact that I didn’t want any form of relationship online after that, even after i told her and others 100x’s a day on Imvu.
      Fast forward to years later an I bring her from IMVU to SL, I redesigned her Fae Dragon from IMVU an brought that to SL as well, but instead of her Celtic rainbow designs, she wanted “Razy Stripes” an since she was paying for it, I in fact did stripes. Well for months she hounded me to be in the partner slot since I in fact took both her and another pet under my collar. Quote/Unquote “To keep people off of one another” since she had a RL boyfriend ((whom I think she lied about but whatever)) and I in fact didn’t do relationship online. After a while I finally did cave, She seemed to understand that it was two friends in a RP marriage but oh boy was I in fact wrong. Fast forward 6months later I’m no longer the main “Husbando” ((Since we were just RP)) She in fact had a few. She had her RL partner as of now, Jin as the main “Husbando” I no longer carried that tag, Rogue was “Husband” #2 and I was ranked down to “Husband” #3. At that time her an Jin were getting super close an I understood that, I wasn’t going to step in the way of something I could never give her. Let alone, that’s when I started seeing someone in RL ((My fiancé as of now)). I remember staying up all night telling her about him an having deep convos about him and his son ((whom was 6months old at the time)), the whole time she told me to be careful. But I guess she didn’t take it well because behind my back ((Didn’t find out about this until recent)) https://gyazo.com/eca0844c62588091a2c79d5c1b628bd0

      Now lets fast forward a little more, Our Official fall out. I had left SecondLife for 2weeks to cool off from Drama and a old scar bursting open that she caused. Not sure what ticked it but yea she went digging an found out I was Female in RL. INSTEAD OF JUST REACTING OUT IN A DM she in fact just removed me from everything and lied to everyone that I just up an left with no remorse right? When in fact she removed me from everything. I did reach out to others that didnt block me, I reached out to Jin an even let him know I wasn’t mad, that i would let her cool off an I would be here when she was ready to talk about it. Did that ever come? No. Because that lead to Doxing my RL image everywhere along with my FaceBook. Every time she “wanted to talk” it was always with a group of her friends while she screamed at me “WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME” while abusing her Moderator powers at “AnotherFurrySandbox” an Doxing my image on all 4 walls of the sim. The owner at the time was even okay with this. I didn’t even flag her to LindenLabs because I understood she was still upset, So why would I even try to reply to something like that when she cant even respect it enough to talk in privacy like “Hey Razy, I know ur female, I fount ur stuff, wanna talk about it?” No, Straight to doxing and harassment before wrongfully ejecting me from the sim.

      What came after that? Since the Doxing didn’t bother me she went after the next thing. Claiming my custom textures of her sona that I did on both Imvu and SecondLife were copybotted an she was out 50$, even though she watched me stream it the whole time on Picarto.tv ((Before Discord)) She even went a step further and used her management power at clubs on SL to pin messages in the Moderator Channels to badmouth my name at every opportunity https://gyazo.com/9177eded454e0d088ed836e120817f3e to get me on some “WatchList” or even “Banned”. Just like when she worked at WetMare and used their ban list as her own personal ban list an thus made some lie up to get me banned there as well https://gyazo.com/a441a5e59fd56065900f5cf1594460d7. After that the entire ban list was cleared an I did get an apology, Not from her but from staff who actually looked into all her claims since she couldn’t keep my name out of her mouth but yet labels me as the “Stalker”. That’s when I finally put my foot done an defended my textures that she chose to drag into this rodeo. My Proof that I did her textures on Both IMVU and SECONDLIFE- https://gyazo.com/e437956d11e06c564e82bf74ab8f0154

    • [Part 2]

      Proof that she CopyBotts ((She hated me for exposing that one)) https://gyazo.com/58e66a2b1a6fa8b0322ec097fe88875d . But that’s something she can honestly blame herself for since she “TRIED” to copy my albino alligator to get under my scales. But since I knew my scalies quiet well https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Dragoness-Skin-Mod-Pack/12492131 it was easy to find that she ripped another creators skin an recolored it an claimed it as “HER CUSTOM ALBINO CROCODILE” https://gyazo.com/61e709075c59f24970b417755b57595d ((The Creator of the DRAGONESS SKIN- https://gyazo.com/860e36a1f277c875c72b931303b88607 )), Then when called out on the “DRAGONESS SKIN” she changed to a Rainworx Skin https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/RL-OMEGA-FEMALE-CROCOGATOR-WHITE/14751666 https://gyazo.com/036f64905835e38b12dd06f9dc6b0caa. Even after all this i still kept our issue private and separate. I said my peace to clear my name, I SHOWED PROOF and was just ready to move on.

      But no, I’m a stalker right? Because soon after i posted my proof and made her look like the liar she was the new bar had to be set lower. That’s when i had to hide my groups because now she would find the groups/discords/sims an literally take my RL photos from other discords. Kind of stalker like, right? Because how else would she get this picture an dox me at yet another sandbox? (AdultFurrySandbox) https://gyazo.com/289b7ae11aa0619b1527667e6862e349 . It wasn’t until you brought my RL partner into it when I finally put my foot down an gave my first ever Flagg to LindenLabs. Because at that point she was blocked n banned an not talking to me. So weird that she would have to follow me to other discords an save my RL photos to her computer, but I’m the stalker? But did it end there? No,

      Lets fast forward a few months down the road an just when I thought you’d stop? NOPE, she dug up MY EX FROM IMVU on FA ((Platform I don’t have)) and pull him to SecondLife, make textures for, take her photos an try to weaponize him against me? https://www.furaffinity.net/view/38108976/ So i find it kind of weird that she tried to compare herself to an actual ex of mine and once again lie and twist a story that i never wanted her to talk to him? Yet she has nothing again to back it up with, claiming its always on some “other device” that she no longer has or tries to talk her way around it. And yet once again I’m the stalker in all this even though she went after my ex. But one thing i can thank her for was helping me bury that hatchet with my ex an help a deep scar finally heal. My ex chose to come to me like an adult instead of being her weapon an we had a nice long talk. So for once she was manipulated for someone else’s outcome, talk about karma. But what I find odd in this matter? Was that she openly welcomed my ex back into her life with open arms, even though he lied to her as well for 2 years that i was a male in RL? Why wasn’t he doxed or harassed, targeted, ect..? I’m not sure, but I’m sure that the fact of him being a painful memory was more then enough reason for her to jump on it and not think before she acted, but again I thank her for that one.

      Now this is newer information for me. I admit, that target on my back kind of faded but only for the moment ((That’s when she was fighting with someone else for a while)) I think things finally can settle? But no. Once again a new low bar is now breached. If she cant just keep me in her target she has brought my RL partner into it an now she chooses to bring his son whom was 3years old at the time in on this, Dox my partner’s name, My full name an along with my mother’s RL location, an so much more https://zudrialrose.livejournal.com/535.html ((just in case that post is deleted)) https://gyazo.com/dedcd0b1433082cd6c1342a4020a109e

      And why????? All because I was female in RL??? AND TO JUSTIFY why she did this? She now told people we were in a RL relationship, even though she was with Jin and I had my RL partner near the end of our fallout. What’s even more odd is she even told folks that I found someone an I even told folks that we weren’t a thing threw out the 6months we were partnered https://gyazo.com/eb0ffbf51aeb62958d90d7727870c202. But i guess that’s why she dropped a lot of those people who question “Our Divorce” and came to me asking why I was so “heartless”, an I was 100% honest with them. I can say out of all this it does sting, because she was around for that painful break up and helped me back to my feet. So I trusted she would understand why I didn’t want emotional investment/attachment. But just like everyone else? She didn’t care, an I guess she put herself above that? So she said I had no Remorse?

      Lets see everything laid out here. What did I do? I gave her 100% me besides what was between my legs, all those bullets I took for her an support I gave, 100% me an I wore that proud no matter how stupid she made me look in the end. But when she fount out I was female? She “Negatively Reacted”… by doxing me on multiple occasions. Can she even keep it between me and her respectfully when she doesn’t get the reactions she so desperately wanted from me? No, she had to bring people who weren’t even involved in this an even brought a child into it, my mother’s city, MY FAMILY and so much more…..And why? I honestly don’t even know anymore. She told me in 2018 that she was done with me, and I’ve yet to see it. But in the end I’m the stalker? I’m this BadGuy whom was painted?? Just because what was between my legs and I defended my work?? But what’s honestly the worst part for her right now? That even after all this….I still never, or will I ever WEAPONIZE OR DOX HER RL LIFE OR INFORMATION. 

      You see all this behavior that you executed ((Yes I’m talking to you, Skitz. Because I know you’ll Read this)) in the last 5 years you’ve seen everything you do as “Normal” behavior

    • This was already posted, but the bot is not letting it through. So here’s Red/razzy’s story.

      Screenshots cannot be provided for everything as some things are far too old. 2012-2022 as well some people do not wish to be involved in this so i don’t have permissions to show logs regarding some of the situations. 
      So where on earth do i even begin. I guess here? https://tellonym.me/ZudrialRose/answer/3375831300 Since she claims that i wont leave her alone right? An just in case the post is deleted https://gyazo.com/5890269efb69ebc08e22e10944b2e4c1
      So your telling me for the past 5years not one person has made you upset? Because i find that hard to believe. So lets start off with me lying to her about my gender since she was around for it. Years ago I had my first an only relationship that was online an RL that started on Imvu ((2012 maybe? It was like a decade ago)). For 2years i was with this ex. Zudrial/Skitz should remember since she was around for that nasty breakup, got me out of a dark head space an endless booze. After that i was TRULEY DONE with anyone that wasn’t in my area code an she knew this. ((Whats funny is my Ex lied to her as well for those 2 years that i was male, talk about double standards right? but we’ll get back to my ex later)) I honestly thought she would have respected that fact that i didn’t want any form of relationship online after that, even after i told her and others 100x’s a day on Imvu. Fast forward to years later an i bring her from IMVU to SL, I redesigned her Fae Dragon from IMVU an brought that to SL as well, but instead of her celtic rainbow designs, she wanted “Razy Stripes” an since she was paying for it, i in fact did stripes. Well for months she hounded me to be in the partner slot since i in fact took both her and another pet under my collar. Quote/Unquote “To keep people off of one another” since she had a RL boyfriend ((whom i think she lied about but whatever)) and I in fact didn’t do relationship online. After a while i finally did cave, She seemed to understand that it was two friends in a RP marriage but oh boy was i infact wrong. Fast forward 6months later Im no longer the main “Husbando” ((Snce we were just RP)) She in fact had a few. She had her RL partner as of now, Jin as the main “Husbando” I no longer carried that tag, Rogue was “Husband” #2 and i was ranked down to “Husband” #3. At that time her an Jin were getting super close an i understood that, i wasn’t going to step in the way of somthing i could never give her. Let alone, thats when i started seeing someone in RL ((My fiance as of now)). I remember staying up all night telling her about him an having deep convos about him and his son ((whom was 6months old at the time)), the whole time she told me to be careful. But i guess she didnt take it well because behind my back ((Didnt find out about this until recent)) https://gyazo.com/eca0844c62588091a2c79d5c1b628bd0 . Now lets fast forward a little more, Our Official fall out.
      I had left SecondLife for 2weeks to cool off from Drama and a old scar bursting open that she caused. Not sure what ticked it but yea she went diggin an found out i was Female in RL. INSTEAD OF JUST REACTING OUT IN A DM she in fact just removed me from everything and lied to everyone that i just up an left with no remorse right? When in fact you removed me from everything. I did reach out to others that didnt block me, I reached out to Jin an even let him know i wasn’t mad, that i would let her cool off an i would be here when she was ready to talk about it. Did that ever come? No. Because that lead to Doxing my RL image everywhere along with my Face Book. Every time she “wanted to talk” it was always with a group of her friends while she screamed at me “WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME” while abusing her Moderator powers at “AnotherFurrySandbox” an Doxing my image on all 4 walls of the sim. The owner at the time was even okay with this. I didnt even flag her to LindenLabs because i understood she was still upset, So why would i even try to reply to something like that when she cant even respect it enough to talk in privacy like “Hey Razy, I know ur female, I fount ur stuff, wanna talk about it?” No, Straight to doxing and harassment before wrongfully ejecting me from the sim. What came after that? Since the Doxing didnt bother me she went after the next thing. Claiming my custom textures of her sona that i did on both Imvu and SecondLife were copy botted an she was out 50$, even though she watched me stream it the whole time on Picarto.tv ((Before Discord)) She even went a step further and used her management power at clubs on SL to pin messages in the Moderator Channels to badmouth my name at every opportunity https://gyazo.com/9177eded454e0d088ed836e120817f3e to get me on some “WatchList” or even “Banned”. Just like when she worked at Wet Mare and used their ban list as her own personal ban list an thus made some lie up to get me banned there as well https://gyazo.com/a441a5e59fd56065900f5cf1594460d7. After that the entire ban list was clear’d an i did get an apology, Not from her but from staff who actually looked into all her claims since she couldn’t keep my name out of her mouth but yet lables me as the “Stalker”. That’s when i finally put my foot done an defended my textures that she chose to drag into this rodeo. My Proof that i did her textures on Both IMVU and SECONDLIFE- https://gyazo.com/e437956d11e06c564e82bf74ab8f0154 .

      • Part 2

        Proof that she CopyBotts ((She hated me for exposing that one)) https://gyazo.com/58e66a2b1a6fa8b0322ec097fe88875d . But thats something she can honestly blame herself for since she “TRIED” to copy my albino alligator to get under my scales. But since i knew my scalies quiet well https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Dragoness-Skin-Mod-Pack/12492131 it was easy to find that she ripped another creators skin an recolored it an claimed it as “HER CUSTOM ALBINO CROCODILE” https://gyazo.com/61e709075c59f24970b417755b57595d ((The Creator of the DRAGONESS SKIN- https://gyazo.com/860e36a1f277c875c72b931303b88607 )), Then when called out on the “DRAGONESS SKIN” she changed to a Rainworx Skin https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/RL-OMEGA-FEMALE-CROCOGATOR-WHITE/14751666 https://gyazo.com/036f64905835e38b12dd06f9dc6b0caa. Even after all this i still kept our issue private and separate. I said my peace to clear my name, I SHOWED PROOF and was just ready to move on. But no, Im a stalker right? Because soon after i posted my proof and made her look like the liar she was the new bar had to be set lower. Thats when i had to hide my groups because now she would find the groups/discords/sims an literally take my RL photos from other discords. Kinda stalker like, right? Because how else would she get this picture an dox me at yet another sandbox? (AdultFurrySandbox) https://gyazo.com/289b7ae11aa0619b1527667e6862e349 . It wasn’t until you brought my RL partner into it when i finally put my foot down an gave my first ever flagged to LindenLabs. Because at that point she was blocked n banned an not talking to me. So weird that she would have to follow me to other discords an save my RL photos to her computer, but im the stalker? But did it end there? No, Because lets fast forward a few months down the road an just when i thought you’d stop? NOPE, she dug up MY EX FROM IMVU on FA ((Platform i dont have)) and pull him to SecondLife, make textures for, take her photos an try to weaponize him against me? https://www.furaffinity.net/view/38108976/ So i find it kinda weird that she tried to compare herself to an actual ex of mine and once again lie and twist a story that i never wanted her to talk to him? Yet she has nothing again to back it up with, claiming its always on some “other device” that she no longer has or tries to talk her way around it. And yet once again im the stalker in all this even though she went after my ex. But one thing i can thank her for was helping me bury that hatchet with my ex an help a deep scar finally heal. My ex chose to come to me like an adult instead of being her weapon an we had a nice long talk. So for once she was manipulated for someone else’s outcome, talk about karma. But what i find odd in this matter? Was that she openly welcomed my ex back into her life with open arms, even though he lied to her as well for 2 years that i was a male in RL? Why wasnt he doxed or harassed, targeted, ect..? Im not sure, but im sure that the fact of him being a painful memory was more then enough reason for her to jump on it and not think before she acted, but again I thank her for that one.
        Now this is newer information for me. I admit, that target on my back kinda faded but only for the moment ((Thats when she was fighting with someone else for a while)) I think things finally can settle? But no. Once again a new low bar is now breached. If she cant just keep me in her target she has brought my RL partner into it an now she chooses to bring his son whom was 3years old at the time in on this, Dox my partner’s name, My full name an along with my mother’s RL location, an so much more https://zudrialrose.livejournal.com/535.html ((just in case that post is deleted)) https://gyazo.com/dedcd0b1433082cd6c1342a4020a109e And why????? All because i was female in RL??? AND TO JUSTIFY why she did this? She now told people we were in a RL relationship, even though she was with Jin and i had my RL partner near the end of our fallout. Whats even more odd is she even told folks that i found someone an i even told folks that we weren’t a thing threw out the 6months we were partnered https://gyazo.com/eb0ffbf51aeb62958d90d7727870c202. But i guess thats why she dropped alot of those people who question “Our Divorce” and came to me asking why i was so “heartless”, an i was 100% honest with them. I can say out of all this it does sting, because she was around for that painful break up and helped me back to my feet. So i trusted she would understand why i didnt want emotional investment/attachment. But just like everyone else? She didnt care, an i guess she put herself above that? So she said i had no Remorse? Lets see everything laid out here. What did i do? I gave her 100% me besides what was between my legs, all those bullets i took for her an support i gave, 100% me an i wore that proud no matter how stupid she made me look in the end. But when she fount out i was female? She “Negatively Reacted”… by doxing me on multiple occasions. Can she even keep it between me and her respectfully when she doesn’t get the reactions she so desperately wanted from me? No, she had to bring people who weren’t even involved in this an even brought a child into it, my mother’s city, MY FAMILY and so much more…..And why? I honestly dont even know anymore. She told me in 2018 that she was done with me, and I’ve yet to see it. But in the end i’m the stalker? Im this badguy whom was painted?? Just because what was between my legs and i defended my work?? But whats honestly the worst part for her right now? That even after all this….I still never, or will i ever WEAPONIZE OR DOX HER RL LIFE OR INFORMATION. 
        You see all this behavior that you executed ((Yes im talking to you, Skitz. Because i know you’ll Read this)) in the last 5 years you’ve seen everything you do as “Normal” behavior

      • I like how the live journal wasn’t linked. So here I’ll post for those that want to read.https://zudrialrose.livejournal.com/535.html
        Seems like Razzy wasn’t innocent in all of this. And for someone who claims not to be obsessed, I see you post ALOT about her. I see both sides to this story. Neither are innocent in this. Seems this also really has nothing to do with you either Dilila. The only people I see that can’t move on is you and this razzy person. Not saying she doesn’t do anything but if she does, it’s not publicly which is smart.

      • Thought it was linked. So that’s my bad. And she literally doxxed red. Also red is my closest friend and I’m allowed to defend them. And you’re literally defending skitz that’s WHY she’s up here. She’s a fucking hypocrite being called out. But go off thinking it’s ok to go to clubs and get someone banned for a “stolen skin” she was banned from bare snake lounge for it. But apparently none of the other screenshots matter right? Just the love journal where the only thing against red is that she didn’t say she was a girl. So because she didn’t share what was between her legs it’s ok to dox her? Her moms location her bf her fucking real life pictures? That’s ok because she didn’t say “ hey I have a vagina!!”

      • Sooo were just gonna sit here and pretend this is okay to post when it links the Facebook of others not only confirming the doxxing but blatant attempt at character assassination?

        Sure not all of us like dil but her post mentions that the original is probably pending so they got it up quicker. That same post DOES link the live journal in one of the gyazo links.

        I find it rather silly when after these callouts show up a “random” comes in and tries to not only deflect but to insult them.

        “All of this is BS. You’re literally the problem here. Fucking narcissistic bitch at its finest”

        Yea that’s totally not skitz

        Also notice how the titles of these journals are structured? ARTIST BEWARE, this site already exists. Yet they couldn’t get the real one (probably because they weren’t approved or it was taken down due to harassment) so that should speak volumes of the validity of their claims.

        And for someone to claim that x and y is stolen, that discord link exposed gave rings true. “It’s a custom”…yea not a good look on ya skits especially when they have to go in detail after others see past their bullshit. This has clearly happened multiple times

      • It may have been taken down due to multiple reports on it? If something big did happen, makes sense to take down your opponents evidence to make your case look better. I’m curious about the links in the gyazo video.

      • If you try to report the live journal it goes to Russian requiring a passport for identification. It’s not gonna get taken down easily especially with a language barrier.

        Artist beware requires verification from the mods including purchase information and confrontation of the involved parties. If it got taken down there’s totally more to the story but if such a post never got approved there’s not enough or any proof at all to prove that it was truly theft.

      • Hmm just from the links though, seems as though there was tracing or something. I don’t know the TOS of art or artists in general but is that a bad thing to do?

      • The art that is provided that is apparently tracing, was art red did personally for themselves, none of it was for someone else it was for red’s own fun nothing more. It’s a grab at straws to make red look bad. The skin that skitz has had an issue with for SOOOOO many years, wasn’t copy botted, or stolen. It was a PSD created by the creator of the tsundere head or snap dragon head. Which no longer can be found on the MP because they removed all their items from SL and moved over to VR. How ever, im pretty sure the psd kit wasn’t released until sometime after skitz made their albino gator that was confirmed by the creator that skitz went to the creator for a custom white skin but was denied.

        So for the art, it has nothing to do with skitz, she’s just grabbing at straws, with her custom skin she tried to claim is stolen/copybotted. I have the PSD file as well and can see it’s not.

      • I mean I guess. Though the artists seem to have a large following. Even if it’s for their own purposes, permission has to be given? Otherwise what’s the difference between what razzy did and what skitz did? They both took something that wasn’t theirs. Doesn’t seem like one is worse than the other in that retro spect, well to me anyway. Obviously you can’t deny that though.

      • See that’s one issue. If the artist has a large following why haven’t they gone to the proper channels to take care of the traced art since that would make it theft? Because there’s clearly something different going on and skitz is just adding to the problem.

        An artist could easily dmca a piece if they wanted because its their property. This happens with FA, DA and so on and If not it’s the community of that artist that can sometimes get involved…yet it’s only one person being skitz.

        The rumor I’ve heard when this was hot was red purchased the piece and skitz stopped the commission because they were friends with the artist. Idk if there was a refund but if red did pay for the piece they have every right to the item they payed money for.

        I think anyone would be pretty annoyed if a third party came and stopped a piece you already payed for because they told the artist some supposed drama.

        Keep in mind this IS a rumor and I could be mixing up shit from skitz, suda or even dil. So if someone that can vouch with PROPER EVIDENCE plz correct me. ty!

      • If the person is careful enough and doesn’t post it anywhere besides their private stuff then no the artist has no idea and cannot post a DMCA. But regardless, everyone seems to be so gung Ho to demonize a person when they clearly haven’t been able to defend themselves I guess. It’s just really crazy to me that this person is consistently brought up whenever possible and and everyone acts like she’s satan herself. But knowing the rumors about Dilila, And knowing that she is biased in this situation. Which I have to reiterate for whatever reason that has nothing to do with her. This is literally just liars calling out other liars. Or people that are prone to drama just because they’re bored. I don’t know it just seems a little unfair I guess. You treat her like she’s not allowed to be human. I mean if you really hate her why don’t you just come out and wish that she was dead at that point? That’s pretty much the hate vibes I’ve been getting from this entire conversation. However this will be my last comment, at this point it’s just going around in circles. Can’t help it when people made up their minds about a certain thing I suppose. Have a good night everyone 😴

      • Because my other post won’t be approved until probably sunday.

        You’re saying it’s ok for skitz to dox someone because they didn’t share what was between their legs? You’re saying it’s ok for skitz to do something ILLEGAL, just because she keeps her nasty behaviour to herself? You realize THAT is why Exposed does this this right? Exposing hypocrites. The ones who try to hide their dirty laundry and for toxic bullshit like this.

        The fact skitz has harassed and stalked this person FOR YEARS!! Since she cut them off. Which btw, yes. I have witnessed this multiple times. More so with baresnake lounge where skitz went there, and red immediately left because she didn’t want to deal with the shit. Then had the owner messaging them about that fae dragon she “sold” claiming it to be copy botted and stolen, just to buy it back? Sketch as fuck.
        https://gyazo.com/78091d35a78f390fedd9977c9f2be921 Screenshot on that.
        Which btw also follows into this.
        https://gyazo.com/507a606b068e0a663fa9fc4c8256b118
        Wasn’t trying to get her banned? Then why bring up the custom skin that was done saying it was copybotted?

        Lets add in the manipulation of others, knowing she’s blocked https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714621154912108604/832159922631868416/Screenshot_20210415-025920_Discord.jpg
        She knows red has her blocked, and she knew drak’s name since she went and hunted him down on FA. And has known him for the last 2 fucking years
        https://gyazo.com/85853af6cbc74e6a1d41d5e886c2930d
        So you mean to tell me, that skitz has not done something wrong? She hasn’t stalked and harassed red, she hasn’t purposely poked at this person and circumvented ways to get around a block just to poke her, hasn’t gone to other discords, or in world groups just to get at her that the doxxing was alright to do, just because red wasn’t comfortable sharing her real life gender with skitz…..And instead of just being a little bit upset with it, which being a little upset is fair. But TO BREAK THE LAW AND HARRASS AND STALK SOMEONE TO THE POINT THAT THEY NOW HAVE FUCKING MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL TRAUMA, Is fucking ok with you? Sit on a fucking cactus.

      • I wasn’t deflecting anything on to you. Just stating the fact that this doesn’t seem to have anything to do with you. What skitz did was wrong. There’s no denying that. But I mean, wouldn’t you be upset if someone you knew wasn’t honest about something simple like their gender? Regardless there seems to be two sides to the story here and I’ve only ever seen your side or the side of others. Maybe you’re too biased. Maybe razzy exaggerates. Who knows. Maybe skitz is this horrible person you make people believe. I want to see what she has to say about all this. My curiosity is peaked.

      • Yes and no. Many men identify as the opposite sex on the internet all the time. Just look at the many online personalities ( and even more with vtubers growing in popularity) and most of them are probably some anime woman.

        I use to identify as a man myself because I got tired of getting creeps trying to approach me. Going to assume a similar situation. This is the same reason there’s the small mantra “always assume they’re a man on the internet” because it’s so common nowadays.

        Considering the issue itself, asking questions and investigating seems more valid then abandoning and exposing them not to mention dumping everything like the way they did with insults and trying to damage ones business.

        The rl picture shaming was what I personally experienced in public sandboxes. To go that far is just disheartening.

        Honestly this just makes me wonder if their friendship was really genuine. Dil stated in their post that it was to get the information out. Now that red’s posts are appearing its pretty much the same info. She got past the pending quicker and the info got out. Like how my reply is still pending because I added a link so just letting ya know xD

      • Ah yes the law of the internet. But it seems she was female the while time, pretending to be a guy? Let’s assume they had a good relationship before the mess, feels we’re involved. I can understand the rage or betrayal I guess. I personally wouldn’t go that far but I guess people can’t help feel what they feel. Maybe it was a warning for others or just a blind rage thing.
        Again who knows. I still want to find skitz and ask about it. I like good drama with both sides. I’ve only ever seen this one. Maybe I should message her

      • Actually, I have both sides of the story. And that’s because before I was hanging out with red. I was hanging out with skitz first. I got the BAD side of red far before I got the good side. And the bad side was literally just that red was a copybotter who catfished her for years. Fuck, I ran into red, unknowingly, before they had their major split. I’m not biased in this event in the slightest. I’ve been there to see skitz out right attack/harass her on the end of being on the bad side, and being on the good side. While she may not have done all of that to me personally, I’m still pretty involved in it more than most people think.

      • https://gyazo.com/9763dff291f3b322f6cbfe0cba1ed0f1
        Just to show a date and proof that in fact, i’ve known about her side regarding red for a long while. Skitz and I were friends at one point or another. But that live journal that was posted, also gives skitz’s side. =/

        and reason why im going so hard into this one? Because my friend, someone that’s close and dear to me has been harmed MAJORLY by zudrial and I’m sick and tired of seeing the fucking bullshit. I’m sick of seeing this person trying to cause them more harm just because red wasn’t comfortable at the time to share what was in their pants. As for me getting upset about gender. Maybe a little bit at first, but not enough to run around start doxxing them, harassing them and stalking them. I’d probably ask why they didn’t tell me sooner. But at the same time, none of my god damned business what’s between someones legs unless im fucking them/dating them. If neither of those things is happening, the gender they present themselves as to me, is what i will adress them ass. I also don’t rightfully care about gender. He, she, they , them, non-bionary. I don’t care. So long as we mesh good.

      • What’s crazy to me is that you wholly believe this person when you also know about skitz and her side. But again is there any actual evidence of this harassment and supposed stalking?

      • And yet you deny razzy doing the same? I just looked at her profile. It’s literally a love letter to skitz. If you knew skitz then you must know she has a good side to. But whatever beef between her and razzy is theirs. And yes I think you are biased. You’re razzys new bestie. You chose to straight out believe razzy despite knowing skitz as well. So in my opinion, your views on the beef between them is one sided to me. Skitz comes up alot even when the post has nothing to do with her. Either by you or by exposed. You cannot deny that as a fact. I don’t know what happened between you and her either but clearly, from what I see, it’s just razzys profile and you bringing her up. On old things it seems as well? (Not sure how old this drama is) However is there actual evidence of her being verbally abusive? Banning aside or whatever. Is there ACTUAL evidence of her beinh abusive? The furry community is small, smaller than the human anyway. So is showing up at Sims commonly used really considered stalking? Because I have an ex that frequents my favorite places but I don’t consider it stalking. And if she’s blocked by razzy and you, why does it matter that she’s there? Unless you act or do something, I doubt you’ll just randomly be banned and if you are, move on? 🤷

      • Ah I can see what you mean. Lemme see if I can explain this as best I can…

        First off I’m not going to fight your argument considering I do firmly believe in change, however there is such a thing as reputation and holding others accountable. Change means you can push past those same behaviors and move on like you said, so when those same behaviors resurface it’s hard to ignore it.

        There’s a couple easy ways to see the truth behind an argument. Like I said I do this professionally. I get paid to listen to two parties and their cases with the information provided (and some I gather myself) to debate with my team of 3-4 people and make a decision for the final outcome. Of course this is VS and I’m just a loud 3rd party adding my own opinion. I come here to call out shit when I see it but I guess you could call it practice.

        There are some behaviors that can easily sway your judgment on an argument because actions speak louder than words. It’s the same instinct when you can tell someone is lying. These behaviors are called tells and they can vary between twitching, avoiding eye contact, ect.

        So lemme use the posts below including my own to help illustrate this. You’re right, there IS a good side, but people are pointing out the bad because it is valid for the argument (doxxer gets fired and is let back into a group despite literally breaking a law). It’s quite a valid reason and I made the first post saying I’d wait until there was some more valid proof than just the post alone.

        Dilila comes in and mentions some possible favoritism regarding skitz and the blogger manager. Normally one or two posts aren’t gonna instantly sway me or anyone else but it was the response from SRSLY that hinted that the accusation had some truth behind it.

        When something has weight or threatens the argument to one side, someone guilty is going to get defensive and try to sway the argument. SRSLY not only denied the accusations, but they also threw accusations and insulted Dilila which confirmed to me that what dilila said was truth. If there’s no weight, there’s nothing to get upset about because it’s fabricated and doesn’t need to be countered. A simple downvote was all they needed to do instead of calling her a “Fucking narcissistic bitch”.

        The exact thing happed when I decided to start digging. As a server mod for a store seeing them claim that an edit was “their custom” not only confirmed the theft accusations, but it also confirmed the shitty behavior toward others. HA! also confirmed this by trying to change the subject by attacking the individual I contacted (for the first time I might add) because they had a small dispute. All they did was provide the items I asked for without revealing any sensitive information, all they did was confirm that the situation happened in the discord, and they had a dispute settled in private. There was ample opportunity to be petty and share logs but they didn’t escalate the issue and even defended zudrial claiming that the situation between them “wasn’t a big deal”. Honestly I agree with this statement.

        Again, if the information is false, there’s no reason to get so defensive about an accusation, so for HA! to bring more energy on the subject, insult the individual (who’s been falsely accused before I might add) and myself, I decided to silence them with what I do best. Sourcing pretty much every public post I can find regarding the accusations. So when they stated “I’d ALSO source the information but I don’t care enough”…I knew they lost because that was the tell.

        The claim they have dirt on them, that others have dirt on them, but present nothing to the argument besides “I know they’re bad, other people say they’re bad”, this is the kind of argument someone with little to no actual facts presents and hopes it sways others. It’s a tell for someone who’s lying.

        So with that kind of behavior in mind, it’s no wonder the votes on our posts reflect a certain outcome. People presenting situations and calmly countering each other with different possibilities (like yourself) and exploring ideas, THOSE are the people actually worth talking to because we can actually have a conversation without the “NuH Uh, yOu’Re WrOnG!” bs.

      • Oh my God, finally someone intelligible to converse with about it. So my question is then, with the Zack issue, does he have or did he have relations with any of the party members that seem to “have it out” for skitz? Why did he have to comment in the first place? And as for the the angry comments, people tend to thrash out at false rumors. Each person is different with their tells. I get your logic but you can’t hold a base line up to everyone and expect that you’re just automatically right about it. Have you ever spoken to skitz yourself? Do you know her outside of this drama? If not then yes I feel your opinions are biased as well. My point is, looking through her Twitter, her Facebook, her sl profile. There’s no indications of stalking, harassment or even that she cares about what’s being said about her. I did send her a message but I have yet to get a response

      • Oh yea, I’ll take my fucking payment of trying to use me as the punching bag. AGAIN. Quit fucking deflecting onto me, and focus on the fact that red has been harrassed, stalked, and doxxed, all because this fucking shitty person didn’t know she had a vagina.

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