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Speaking up says
#21. Patty Haze also known as Penny Greyson and Gina Haze also known as Paris Greyson were aiming to embarrass Carrot but embarrassed themselves. They have a complex about age possible why Patty has been 38 for 5 years. I won’t get started on Gina’s busted face. The biggest bullies are the most insecure and jealous people. Doesn’t the Haze family kiss Lucy Drake’s ass? The manager who bullied people herself and did questionable things with child avatars without getting into any hot water? They are her minions so they are protected to be as crappy as they want to be. The sim is the worst and the desperation is clear as a glass of water.
CedarCreekisDead says
gina is a whore i feel bad for her husband
Bismuth Manicotti says
109. “I’m my own grandpa.”
Inspector Gadget says
#82: https://i.gyazo.com/a41fbe5cacddc12fdcc29903c11670f4.png
Piss Poor says
Are they going to unban all the people Patch Linden banned because he didn’t like them or anything they said against him?
Patch’s whole department should be fired and banned from the platform, plain and simple. They’ve been age-playing, which is against ToS, for years and LL has turned a blind eye. Talk about hostile work environment.
Even if 10 percent of the work environment allegations are true it’s still a terrible work environment to be in. That’s irresponsible of upper management of LL. Of course, what do you expect from a company that has a ‘love machine’.
Be Less Stupid, Please says
“Hi Linden Labs here, We’re going to do an internal investigation on ourselves”
Few Months Later
“Hi Linden Labs here again, we found that we did nothing wrong”.
That’s how it’s going to go.
Inspector Gadget says
#82
Well looks like the Alligation are true and LL is investigating. Who would have thought.
https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2024/02/linden-lab-second-life-office.html
**removed link*** Just don’t post links to personal stuff.
imagine that says
https://thug.tv/2024/02/29/furrygate-rising-response-to-the-investigation-of-sexual-ageplay-in-second-life-decades-of-neglect/
imagine digging into that story and finding out it was covered before by someone that found some sus shit on some of the linden owned regions
Yes patch is a nonce. Yes there is shit going on that needs an investigation given what i’ve heard about patch it does not surprise me. Also fun fact patch cleared his flicker so if that does not scream guilty i don’t know what will.
Blaise Glendevon says
That Linden Labs has launched an investigation doesn’t mean the allegations are true. It means the allegations have garnered public attention. That’s what the investigation is meant to discover – whether they’re true or not. Please, apply some critical thinking.
Petbe says
#80 Greetings Xaara followers,
And a special warm hello to RbQuinn alts, Cameron, AiLi Ling, pensive mission and how many others.
So, look who slipped up there, Mr. Pensive! Isn’t it just adorable how you’re known at Austin too? And Oh, how careless of you to log out as RB at Christina’s gallery only to magically reappear as Mr. Pensive just a minute later, in the exact same spot! Bravo, what a performance!
Did you forget that little rule about alts being discouraged by our dear Xaara? And with, oh, my , alting with the sole intention of deceiving others ( that means you RB) ? Well, that’s just the cherry on top of your little deception sundae, isn’t it, boy? You’re pensive and guilty as sin, and I’m sure Arella can’t wait to dole out the appropriate punishment. Spanks all around, perhaps? Oh, and who on earth is this mysterious Mr. Miles, Arella? , you may all wonder? Well, let me enlighten you……wait no no No Xarra that little secret can wait a little longer.
And let’s not forget your little escapade with the Adept path. Was it your alting shenanigans that got you that big fat rejection letter? Oh, the Xaara’arians sure dodged a bullet with that one, didn’t they? But hey, we all know you applied, don’t we? Such ambition, such finesse!
Oh, and let’s all give a round of applause for your absolutely stellar attempt at trying to finagle your way into leading the welcoming committee. I mean, it must have been a real tear-jerker when Jason swooped in and redirected it to the steering committee, huh? Oh, we’re all just dying to know the real reason behind your sudden enthusiasm for that role, aren’t we? And let’s not forget that perfectly timed request you made to Arella during the D meeting. She was just about to hand it over to you until Jason decided to spoil the party. Oh, the disappointment must have been palpable for your meticulously crafted scheme… all just a clever ploy to be the first in line to greet every fresh face that stumbles in. Bravo, really, BRAVO !.
Oh, what a tangled mess we find ourselves in! It’s like a soap opera, isn’t it? How on earth could this possibly descend any further into chaos? Oh wait, maybe the next episode, issue 800, will just be an absolute riot. Can’t wait to see what drama unfolds next!
Bruh says
57 – Oh look, here it is. He posted himself again but this time it is a support post. Because obviously it was the fault of the 15 concubines that he lied to. It was their fault he was a piece of shit liar and manipulator and lied so often that his own stories didn’t line up and they caught him, right? It’s obviously everyone else’s fault he can’t keep his pixel cock in his pants. Those that continue supporting him, its for the numbers right? Because he told everyone he was working to change and then went right back to being a fuckboi, only now he just blames everyone else for catching feelings, so it can’t be that he changed. And with that article coming out, it now makes a LOT of sense why nothing happened even with all the ageplay reports against him.
whateverdude says
He doesn’t even look good pixel wise. Just another mediocre wannabe trying to be edgy and shit
Stitched says
He doesn’t even have an excuse. If that info from last week is true, he’s been in sl over a decade. He’s just been making new accounts as an excuse for why he looks like an edgelord. And so he can change up the circle of virtual women he can manipulate. Kind of sad I didn’t get to see what the OP described, makes you wonder how many groups he’s made to keep track of his toys.
#NothingButTheTruth says
Your comment is as disgusting as pedophilia itself.
the whole truth says
#92
Have seen this one ALL over SL with different girls at each. Whats he offering them all for their blind allegiance to him?? None of them know how he playing them all. Puts the reputation of Doms to shame!
Alias Syn says
#22 To be fair CupidMissed is pretty attractive.
Petbe says
#1 #80 Hey Xaara, it’s a bloody shame that this site is closing as your little drama is worthy of an armchair and a bowl of salted popcorn to watch, im having so much fun.
Arella ! Of course, Xara believes you when you say you didn’t take that picture or photoshop that poor excuse for a Log you probably had your little puppy do it, he needs better training. Heel boy!
You telling everyone you are no longer with RB, I mean cam or which evert alt he’s using ay the time, and that you’re starting a new life away from Xaara with someone new (sounds slutty to me), and interesting who threw who under the bus or is it more lies and why did you still hang at the fountain tonight.
***news flash you’re not believed ***
and we know who your new lapdog is now this poster doesn’t need to reveal the name of your lapdog, such a loyal Labrador, did you let him lick your boots as a reward, yuk.
someone was being big and mean to you at the pier bar, so you cried out for your new puppy to come and low and behold like a white knight he came out of space and time, to your rescue. And the poor little miscreant got BANNED for wearing a titler. Were your little Domme feelings butt hurt.
This poster knows what your little puppy was doing.
This poster knows your little puppy has been protecting you from day one.
This poster knows your little puppy has been supressing complaints made against you.
This poster knows your little puppy is on the steering committee.
The net around your lies is closing. Leave and take puppy with you while you have shred of dignity and buy his unicorn a course of photoshop lessons focussing on yellow and copy and paste and new pack of colouring crayons.
SirChaos says
When the god of revenge comes to play, ohhhh myyyyyyy!
Shani says
Karma is the word of the day.
Shani says
Oh and just another lie from Arella and RB. They are still together. Many witnesses at the Fountain Gathering today saw her in his lap.
Snownyte says
Well guys, this is pretty much the second to last batch of spice we’ll get until the next round. Who knows, might not even get to comment on the final article since we’re pushing up the final VS. May just enjoy it for what it’s worth.
Hope the final VS is juicy, at least. If it’s nothing but just people bitching more and more on shitty RP sims that they’ve always had the option to not participate in, then that’s a whimpy way to go out on.
Gustav says
I hope the entire pedo-ring in SecondLife gets exposed, they are charged criminally and that justice will be done. I suspect some really prominent names among them – karma is a bitch. Tik Tok …their time is running out.
wtf says
#99 . have you ever heard of testing demos? my god.. if youre bothered by ads just test the fucking demos
Sketch says
https://i.ibb.co/3yxbTkB/Untitled-1-Copy.png
SippingTeaAlways says
#79 – Not like this was a secret. She is one of the rudest singers I’ve booked. She is a diva, she doesn’t speak to anyone other that her group of friends. And just because your SLfamous doesn’t mean you can treat people like crap. Remember Esse, if it wasn’t for the people coming to hear you, and the venues that book you, you would just be a sex worker on SL. I’ve heard many singers who are better than you, who actually appreciate those that come to their shows. Try being humble.
Comical says
108 – Wait, what? Six heads is six feet, so right off the top the person just said my 5’9″ RL stance is child proportions. Also means actors like Warwick Davis, Peter Dinklage, Tony Cox, the late Zelda Rubinstein, Verne Troyer, Kenny Baker, only fans model Alrikacal, etc. are all child proportions due to dwarfism.
As for the big butts and thighs, you can see that with Latin and Black women, a lot of web cam models and porn stars could be listed here for this one.
wat says
Yeah but the average Reborn avi does not look in any way human. They’re most often completely deformed with giant elephant legs and shoulders that are 1/4 the width of their hips. Often with a tiny pea-sized head as well.
It’s just a body where it’s very easy to get it all very wrong and the results you see waddling around the grid are the proof. It’s a fine body but not amongst the crowd who simultaneously want to be ‘curvy’ and yet somehow dainty, it doesn’t work.
A-Kid says
Nah, I’ve seen curvy and “dainty” done with Reborn. It takes slider settings and deformers, stuff your average user won’t bother with and never learned to understand.
ToxicDaddyIssues says
Don’t even need deformers! Dainty and curvy. Zero deformers and I don’t look like I was put together with spare parts. Just takes understand how people are built, what you can do with sliders and some common sense.
Bismuth Manicotti says
Heads tall is something artists use for proportions. It works at any scale from tiny to big. The actual height doesn’t matter, the head to body RATIO does.
Common reference charts on head height by age show children being at six ish heads range pre-puberty, then going up to seven heads tall during puberty and ending up at about seven and a half as adults. This is average and ideal, there is some variation.
Your numbers are incorrect. A head is not a foot. The average head height for an adult is actually 8-9 inches. A six head tall adult is between 4 and 4 and a half feet tall. I’m sure that happens occasionally, but that’s an outlier. Adults who are five head and six head adults tall are overrepresented in SL.
Heads continue growing until age 15 or so, meaning a head is not a standard measurement, a child’s head is a bit smaller. Think 7 and a half inches.
You are using people with flavors of dwarfism, people who are statistical outliers due to health disorders, to argue with the /average height/ of adults. If you look at the proportions of people with dwarfism, they have a bit of thickness to them because they still gain the mass but not the height.
The characters seen in SL aren’t proportioned in a way that indicates that dwarfism is their intention.
Most of these people just don’t fix their head size when they shorten their avies.
The truth out says
82 you can flag and report but at the end of day the Truth out there. It shows what people being doing for years n matter if you report this type of stuffs that happens. Behind closed doors they’re always a shady dark matters within LL and community In General. The fun fact most of pissy folks cry about they’re Sims being mention because they know damn well they’re pedophiles among does groups. You all are hypocrites for not speaking out the truth. When the evidences are provided you go saying it a lie and still complain. LL and second life is a disgusting virtual world video game should had shut down long time ago. Back 2007.
GM says
This does not speak for the whole community, not all of us do these things or think it’s okay for others to do them either. For someone who thinks SL should’ve shutdown in 2007 you’re still stalking things about SL in 2024… make it make sense? There are many of us who use adult avatars and never even participate in adult content lol
Helldiver says
Second Life is not a disgusting virtual world.
The people involved in this ageplay scandal– the ones taking advantage of their positions of power as lead Lindens to foster these pedo friendly spaces are the ones who are disgusting.
They are the corrupting force that turn the corners of the grid into foul places. Just like in real life, where pedos in positions of power do the very same.
I wont’ hate the world i live in, just because these twisted individuals are trying to turn it into their own personal playground. The same as I wont’ hate SL as a virtual space.
Good, decent people are fighting back as best they can. That’s why this article exists-exposing what these ageplayers do.
That’s why we come to sl-secrets to complain (toxic as this site may be), because it’s keeps the pressure on those deviants, and puts a magnifying glass to what they do.
So long as they exist- so will we, the whistle blowers. It wont matter what corner of the globe you go to, what section of the internet you hide in, what virtual world you congregate. Realize that we have our eyes on you always and we won’t stop fighting against you.
Some would say shutting down SL as a whole is the only solution to stop this corruption, but lets not kid ourselves. Ageplayers will always be around the corner, waiting for the next realm to infiltrate.
I say we don’t just throw in the towel and simply turn off SL. That never stops them- we may as well shut off roblox, imvu, final fantasy XIV, gaia online, VR chat- the list can go on, because believe it- these deviants are there too, hiding in plain sight.
This is an ongoing battle that will never end.
The only way to win is to Keep The Pressure ON.
Keep reporting them, keep proof of their existence and keep them uncomfortable. Their bill will come due.
TM says
Those involved in ageplay know exactly what the boundaries are and choose to cross them. I have heard people justify enough. Stop the fucking bullshit. The pic of that baby with the phallic looking things on the face, fucking remove it, I don’t care if you meant it to be mittens, there are enough people who are uncomfortable with the execution. Just remove it dipshit, it is skirting the line. People who play little kids and go into adult regions, I dont give a fuck what your justification is, get the fuck out. It is adult for adults and for adult avatars to do adult things. General and moderate sim exist. Being with a “parent” in adult sim is bullshit too. I dont give a fuck if you managed to make sense in your head about what the TOS allows. How about just not doing it. How about just saying I am playing as a child today and I am going to go to the appropriate sims for role playing that. Instead these people continue to try to gaslight others into thinking they are special, different, smarter than everyone else because they found a way to justify it via TOS. Why is that SO important to you? What is anyone trying to normalize here?
A-Kid says
Prison? Yes. Gangraped? Nah I’m not cool with wishing that on anyone.
A-Kid says
#82 – I was waiting until next week to do this but with the way the last few days have been, I decided to just do it now. There was always a reason I stayed away from dodgy regions, big families, and adoption agencies so I’m honestly not surprised, not at all, just shocked at who it was and how disgusting it is. I don’t know how much is hard truth but that and being harassed like I’m a sexual deviant since this dropped made me call my retirement early. This has ruined it for those of us who just liked being kids again in a big virtual world we could relive our childhood in. Never thought I’d say it but it’s time to take kid avs off the grid. Ya’ll can’t even have anything innocent without turning it sexual, ya’ll seriously need therapy for that, that can’t be normal.
There better be an investigation and there better be something done. The few times I ran into real pedophiles in SL was creepy and gross, I had a kid avatar to escape all that sexual shit. Not everyone is on SL to do the nasty.
I took my last bike ride last night, thanks to those who gave a wave to me, and closed out my kid account. It was a good run but it’s over now. What a way to go out…
Yikes says
You are an adult running around as a child, idgaf what you are doing. That simple fact, that you are an Adult running around with a child avi, dressing that avi, choosing a skin for yourself, running around pretending to be a little kid. Makes you weird as fuck and as shady as all those pervs. But you won’t understand that, because you are mentally not right.
Let’s BAN everything child related on second life and move on, on a game that mainly focuses on fucking it has no place. And ppl like you need to see a therapist.
“I had a kid avatar to escape all that sexual shit. Not everyone is on SL to do the nasty.”
Why aren’t you a tumbleweed (see marketplace), or a dolphin in a wheel chair. BC it’s bull fkn shit, you find some sort of sick satisfaction in being a child as an grown ass adult and that makes you creepy.
“I took my last bike ride last night, thanks to those who gave a wave to me, and closed out my kid account. It was a good run but it’s over now. What a way to go out…”
You know who’s not leaving (even their child accounts) ppl who don’t have shit to hide. Begone sick fuck, good riddance.
A-Kid says
Eh fuck off. You’ve no idea what went on in my real life or what lead me to have a SL childhood and you never will. People like you make the world a shit place and make it so people like me need to go do things that don’t involve the type of poison you carry. I already was in therapy. It worked wonders, do you want a recommendation? Sounds like you could use a bit yourself.
I’ve been losing interest in SL for over a year. I heard Kess was closing down VS and I decide it was time to move on with my life too – I’ve outgrown the whole kid av thing, got out of it the peace of mind I needed, SL wasn’t where I wanted to be anymore because RL was better. I had a whole party planned but that article was a gut punch. People like you, instead of going after the actual sick fucks involved, started turning on anyone you could who looked like an easy target. That’s part of why I left early, the other part is I’m a survivor and not comfortable logging onto a game run by pedophiles.
Yes, it’s time to ban kid avatars. I can’t justify it any more. Bad apples ruin the whole bunch. I’m sorry to people like me who only wanted to do G rated things as a kid but the bad actors won, it can’t be allowed now.
Blaise Glendevon says
Imagine reducing the wide world of Second Life creativity to “a game that mainly focuses on fucking. . .”
Sounds like a you problem.
A-Kid says
I really do not get these people who look at things that are completely non-sexual and start thinking the sickest things imaginable. I really don’t, they need some serious therapy.
Marzipan says
I’m honestly considering doing the same, seeing how deep in the community all of this goes is disturbing and makes me really sad. I don’t feel like I can trust almost anyone anymore, I feel like it’s impossible to tell who’s safe and who’s not when there’s easily provable pedophiles and ageplayers even within LL staff. I don’t really want to stop doing kid rp, but I think I’ll find outlets besides SL instead…
A-Kid says
I don’t blame you and I hope whatever you decide that you’re able to find a safe place. It sucks, it sucks a lot.
Potato Desk says
Ironic that someone who gets off on roleplaying a child is telling others to get therapy. You first, lad.
Snownyte says
Someone had a shitty childhood it sounds like.
A-Kid says
Never “got off” roleplaying, seek help for your fetish with everything being about sex. I can recommend a good therapist for that.
I don’t roleplay a child any longer either or did you miss the part where I closed out my account and had been planning retiring from SL anyhow?
Blaise Glendevon says
I’m genuinely sorry you’ve had to give up something that gave you so much enjoyment. I hate that folks who get wholesome pleasure out of playing kid avatars are catching strays out here.
A-Kid says
Thanks so much. I was planning on retiring from SL next week and having a party with all my friends but this blew a big hole in that plan. It wasn’t the way I wanted to leave but it is what it is.
Sergey heyo says
You sound like one of does cult folks when complain about LL the kids community. We all know you’re lying you can tell people on here say you quit but it all an lie. Just stop your jus as guilty as the ones who post the article and people who complain about it. No matter if it lack of evidence what you all say but your still part of that group of pedo’s.
A-Kid says
Easy targets are fun, aren’t they? Maybe direct this energy towards the people who are the problem or get some therapy since all you see around you are pedophiles. I’ve posted on this site for years about how I’m a survivor, how I’m asexual, how I want nothing to do with sex and how I despise people who use child avatars for anything sexual but boy do people like you absolutely want me to be a sick pedophile so bad. Why? Why are you obsessed with that?
You actually going after the people in the article or just the person who has left SL, planned to anyhow, and is absolutely gutted to learn people she thought weren’t like that are indeed like that?
No Popcorn needed says
Also in reality from a sim owner stance and perspective running an adult community, sadly, there are SO MANY people we have to ask to change avatars because they are perceived as child/teen avatars but then turn around and bash so many sim owners and these communities because they are playing it safe and want nothing to do with any of it in these sims. People get so bent out of shape when they come into an adult sim with such a young child/teen-looking avatar. They NEVER take into account the danger they put the people and the owner of that community into doing such things.
A-Kid says
I had a policy of never going anywhere Adult rated on my kid av and if I went somewhere and I was asked to change, I’d get on my adult account or I’d leave entirely. That was always part of the deal for me – kid avatars don’t belong everywhere and sim owners are allowed to decide they don’t want them around. I ran into types who acted like you said and I thought it was BS.
Wouldn't You Like to Know says
Even if it were an actual child avatar, unless they are actively partaking in adult/sexual activities, there is no danger whatsoever. Child avatars are allowed on adult rated regions, anyone who told you otherwise doesn’t actually know what TOS says concerning such things.
seth says
#27 Who? Which DJs?
someoneiusedtoknow says
thats the thing. they only tell if they do something dangerous beastiality, pedo, and being rude to the point, that its toxic.
Arches Check cucks says
I agree why not mention other names within the others groups. Toby asameep Loki they are other Sims. And food junkies is a pedo place where they do meet up using child avatars.
Sophia says
Some people voting this down? Those who think that its ok, read this you sick fucks!
The Reality of Second Life’s Ageplay Problem | by Robert Bartos | Feb, 2024 | Medium
Mrs Slocoe says
Now what is happening is turning tides again, with over 40% of these SL Kens and Karens who were looking for blood of kids on the pavements, now clamming down after that posting was shut down for investigation.
Shutting themselves down, shitting themselves and quietly muttering in small groups, as the Big Sky God has now cracked its whip and in fear of losing their accounts for taking part in pedo-gate mutiny. So much for the aggravated masses. I not even seen people walking with feet, leaving SL in droves in their apparent disgust.
The disgust is you are all half baked reactionaries.
You SL fixated junkie Cowards LOL!!
Sophia says
#82
Fucking disgusting what is going on at SecondLife LL management.
The Reality of Second Life’s Ageplay Problem | by Robert Bartos | Feb, 2024 | Medium
Sketch says
So the article can’t be found anymore in regular search on Medium, and here you are making sure we still get access. That alone shows your agenda. Wish Virtual Secrets would share you IP so we can look into who you really are Mr.”Bartos”.
Sophia says
Who do you think I am, Bartos? I am a reader like everyone else! Just shows you that you will go for everyone who thinks pedophilia is disgusting. EXACTLY like he said. Your kind are despicable psychopaths.
Sketch says
Way to avoid the subject, I’m being really pro active about getting rid of this part on second life. I own a big brand that bans sick fucks like that on sight. This article is not about cleaning second life up, its about destabilizing it and hurting a lot of real life families and hard working people. But you would know, right?
And Karens like you jump on every trend regardless of how much truth there is behind it you jump on it like a shitfly but you won’t be active on solving this.
Ban all little shits you see on sight and the problem is solved, ban them from interacting with you, ban them from going on venues, ban them from clubs, ban them for stores, cancel them from second life. Problem solved.
Oh how I wish creators and venue owners had a spine and wouldn’t simp for every little linden.
Sarcastic Marc says
NOTHING DESTABLISING ABOUT IT! Every person in SL who has made an issue of the pedo-culture and who called it disgusting got their names dragged through the mud RIGHT HERE on this very blog. My message to you all is – check the clubs, public places – it is not hard to find the teen-looking avatars. BOICOTT CLUBS AND PLACES THAT ACCOMODATE THOSE AVATARS! What is fact – the most disgusting; the more disturbed, the more sexually twisted – and usually old fat men in REAL LIFE – the younger the avatar!
#NothingButTheTruth says
I do think pedophilia is disgusting, but that does not mean I am going to believe everything I read on the internet. Medium is a sketchy website, and everyone can create a fake profile and post in there, nothing is verified. You choose to believe, some of us do not, that does not make us pedophiles or psychopaths lol
Sophia says
Maybe you haven’t really read the entire article. Everything is backed up with names, places, LL employees interviewed – even a LL employee commenting. The article is enough reason for law enforcement to get involved. Look how blatant they are with threats – Sketch’s post – See how they act? I am not saying everything is true – I am saying the writer was very thorough. The ball is now in Linden Labs’ court to issue a statement on this saga.
Armando says
The article was spot on.
Hmm says
Watch the interview employee just be himself
Sketch says
What are you talking about?! Have you read the article, state one name of the people that have been interviewed? Why does the writer claim to be a journalist for decades but can’t be found? Why did the writer not contact the feds? Have you reached out to the names that have been mentioned to hear if this is true?
You are a sheep like every other user that thrives on hate and drama, regardless if it could harm a lot of hard working creators.
Sophia says
look what you wrote me… “So the article can’t be found anymore in regular search on Medium, and here you are making sure we still get access. That alone shows your agenda. Wish Virtual Secrets would share you IP so we can look into who you really are Mr.”Bartos”. The sexualization of minors is a criminal offence. Sending a picture of your genitals to a rl under-age person is a crime. Making sexually explicit drawings of underage teens is a crime. All I said was this is fucking disgusting and shared a link to a post. Just the images alone are disgusting.
About time says
Creators? That’s the best you got for defending the pedos? Why would he post his real name? Do you? Does anyone in SL? It’s called a pen name and its been done forever by writers, at times they have a different one for each thing they write. I’m sure if he had interviewed the pervs, they would definitely jump at the chance to admit what they do right LOL. The only creators this will hurt are the ones making inappropriate things for child avis or those that are found to be engaging in age play and if that’s the case, good riddance.
If you’re blind to ageplay, profit from it or choose to look the other way, that’s on you, not the writer. You don’t silence someone that is trying to help innocents.
He gave enough proof with the photos and names to cast doubt in anyone’s mind unless they support the criminals. This writer didn’t need to be a detective or even a great writer, he just needed to cast a shadow on the credibility of LL and their management to do the right thing regarding children. Now let the law and child protection groups take it from here.
Gustav says
Agreed. It is really an eye-opener, even after all the images posted, even after all the child-avatars and pedo-friendly creators we called out – there are still people here and in SL who think there is nothing wrong with the sexualization of children. Sick MFs!
Sophia says
I no longer feel safe in SL after that article. I have also decided to downgrade my account to basic. I cannot pay these people to promote the sexualization of children sorry.
Sarcastic Marc says
It doesn’t matter who he/she is! And where this was posted – where was he supposed to put it and what name he needs to protect himself from woke psychos? The fact is = the TRUTH is out and MOST OF US KNOW THIS SHIT HAS BEEN GOING DOWN IN SL FOR DECADES!
#NothingButTheTruth says
If I tell you I am the pope would you believe? If I am saying it must be true…
He could be a former employer with some kind of agenda for all we know. Weird choice for a journalist to post such a story, in such sketchy website… If he had a real story he would sell it to a news paper, in the news paper you can also write under an alias…
If you do not believe me just go do Medium create a fake account post something really weird and wait for someone to verify what you posted, is not going to happen.
If you call that journalism then we are all journalists of VS. lol Some post what they believe in, others post bs just because and others post stuff to fulfill a personal vendetta.
Don’t you think if this was really happening LL wouldn’t be already under investigation and eventually leaked to the REAL news (those with real journalists)?
I have no issue with what you choose to believe in but come on, thinking everyone else should believe such sketchy post is a kinda too much…
Sophia says
I didn’t once call him a journalist. I called him/her the “writer. And, maybe you just didn’t see the images…or maybe you don’t want to see them, that alone … enough said.
#NothingButTheTruth says
He calls himself an independent journalist and you are the one believing everything he wrote…
Do you know how easy it is to manipulate images nowadays? Apparently as easy as manipulating people into believe that if this really was as bad as it sounds FBI would not be already looking into it and bringing people into justice.
Gustav says
Perhaps you didn’t know that SL has no age verification process. SL is a haven – no, let me rephrase, HEAVEN for pedophiles – when they are not age-playing they get real kids online to start their exchange of dirty things… and perhaps you didn’t know but once these people are caught the authorities may close down SecondLife for good. Which side are you on? (We all know pedophilia is rife in SL)
#NothingButTheTruth says
Perhaps you do not know that all it takes to be considered a crime is having content that can be percieved as pedophilia, that is enough to put someone in jail for good.
I did not see anyone saying that SL has no pedophiles, that would be perfect but unfortunately they are very real. But I am not going to point fingers at a person just because someone decided to write a post in a sketchy website that does not verify anything that is posted there. If that is all true soon enough we will see it in the news.
If the price to pay is SL ending for good, so be it! But until i see something I consider reliable i refuse to accuse someone that could be innocent.
Sarcastic Marc says
What the fuck is wrong with you? Want me to push those images right into your face? Are you fucking blind? You are a pedo apologist. Trying to find a reason for this not to be true. YOU ARE SICK!
#NothingButTheTruth says
LOL! Your comment is as lame as the whole fuss about an unreliable post that nobody can verify but assume to be true. Believe what you want, just remember some of us have and like to use our brain so we do not jump to conclusions based on what someone wrote anonymously in a sketchy website.
Sarcastic Marc says
We get it YOU are a pedophile apologist. You trying to play this shit down. YOU ARE A PEDO! Its very clear from your writings.
About time says
The writer doesn’t owe you or anyone else real life information about himself. He did the right thing by doing the research and posting the proof he has. I’m sure he isn’t looking to win a Pulitzer, only to finally get someone to pay attention to the problem many of us have seen for years. According to you, we shouldn’t take anything you post seriously either because your real name isn’t attached? If you are okay with those photos and the article, you should be locked up with the pedos. I hope someday you have a sister or daughter whose significant other gets off by watching child molestation online. Let’s see how you feel about deviants then? Oh that’s right the pedo fans want to keep those baby rapists safe and sound right, give them their precious safe space to live their sick ass criminal fantasies. I have been sending AR reports and photos for YEARS to LL regarding the ageplay issue and nothing has ever been done. It’s now apparent why. I hope these groups really look into SL and start really checking out friends lists, IP’s, etc. If this is a matter of protecting children, they absolutely can do that and the watchdog groups pride themselves on nailing these sick losers.
Make sure everyone with common sense saves that article and sends it around, the pervs are trying to get it taken down. Copy/paste to an email or download as a print to PDF. There are watchdog groups all over the internet that work with law enforcement to keep kids safe, this falls under the umbrella of everything from child endangerment (nobody really knows who is behind the screen) to trafficking.
#NothingButTheTruth says
On Medium? If he really had proof he would sell the story to a news paper, he/she (because the name is clearly fake so must be the picture) can still write an article on a news paper under an alias.
Nobody is saying SL is free of pedophiles, but point blank believe an article posted in a sketchy website that clearly has only one target and that target are not the pedophiles of SL but a single person that happens to be a LL employee, sounds much more like a vendetta than a report.
I did read the whole thing, I felt truly disgusted with it at 1st, but then alarm bells start ringing in my head. Starting with where it was posted, the fact that you can not find any other articles under that alias (it is very common journalists writing under an alias, but they do not use a different one for every article they write), and then rereading the whole thing you can clearly see the agenda behind it.
I could be wrong, I guess time will tell, if all it was said on that post is true, soon enough it will come to light on credible sources. I prefer to wait on reliable information before i start throwing stones just because some random dude decided to write a big ass post about an employee of SL.
Sarcastic Marc says
So Patch Linden closed his RL Facebook acc. Tweenster moved over-night from an Adult Sim to G-rated sim. Patch Linden also cleaned his Flickr. LL quiet – no response.
Mrs Slocoe says
In my grandmothers neck of the wood, the word “Bartohz” means “to fart” or describes the anus as “Honk Hole”
So i’m kind of laughing in the irony of it all !
Potato Desk says
The article is pretty convincing and spot on but it also feels a little suspicious, and that’s okay. It’s okay for reasonable people to have skepticism of accusations until more corroborating stories come to light about the accused.
I think the stuff about sexual ageplay is absolutely true and spot on. It’s a huge problem and even more than just outright child avatars are the ones making tween proportioned avatars with boobs, childlike clothes and accessories, child AOs, baby faces, and calling them adults.
What I’m not sure about is the names of people and the alts listed. I’ll be watching for more receipts on the accused.
Average SL User says
There will be no receipts I can guarantee. Claiming to search databases that have free open access, no these don’t exist. Any data that reveals a RL name attached to an SL account is closely guarded by data protection laws. Naming supposed alts of LL employees and contractors is low and super super iffy. The article screams of bad blood and grudges and yet the “writer” hides behind fake names.
Wanderer says
The databases that connect the dots are highlighted. It’s the LL staff list which shows the name of the RL person in the same position as the SL page that shows the linden with the same job title. They exist and are easy to connect the dots on. He even included photos in the article so you can search the pages yourself.
We See you says
Honor has the worst people managing their fed, the Panes. Echo and Strik are the worst. They all belittle and put down people they see as competition or could do better than they do. No one wants to work with them outside the shows. They speak badly of many of the people within their own roster including upper management. They caused issues in every fed they were in and still do now. Panes prevent many good wrestlers from joining on personal hatred and jealousy which in turn has caused many to stop coming to watch the show.
This will cause honor to be another failure ran by the Panes.
A memory says
Couldn’t say it better myself.
a memory says
but also they abuse their power and screw over so many people they worked for look what happened in Valiant very successful but turned into shit because the people they brought over from seths vwe felt rushed and didn’t like what was going on.They almost ruined UFW and screwed over the fed because they wanted things their way. Plus it’s not just the panes… team wildfire is trying to use honor pro wrestling as a shield and latch on to it like they did to the community if you get cancelled no moves for you and they like playing guilt by association a lot. That crowd entirely is nothing but drama and they don’t have the privilege to rebuttle it on this platform any more. plus I 100% believe some of them use this site.
a memory says
plus it makes me question what really happened backstage in FWF.
trashpandi says
22) Why talk shit about someone who is autistic? Mute and block like everyone else does.
97&99) How do people not realize so many stores sell the same full perm mesh ANYONE can buy on marketplace and CGITraders or other mesh marketplaces on the internet? Get over it and don’t shop thm
lagertha says
97/99 You are so illiterate and idiotic that your mother still thinks how she could have given birth to such a creature.
SCANDALIZE CREATES THE MESH, MANY OF THEM DESIGNS STOLEN FROM OTHER BRANDS BUT ALSO USES THE COPYBOTT TO STEAL AND RETOPOLOGY, SALE AS FULL PERM UNDER THE NAME OF CREATIVE SCANDAL, STOP MAKING THE FUCKING RIDICULOUS.
SaucePlz says
Source that Scandalize creates mesh/steals at all and doesnt just buy it from somewhere like everywhere else?
lagertha says
SCANDALIZE * CREATIVE SCANDAL (FULL PERM) * EASYGO (fULL PERM) * BEYOND CREATIONS (FULL PERM)
THEY ARE THE SAME FUCKING PERSON, WHAT AN ASSHOLE YOU ARE!
Laughing all the way home says
#92. I was wondering how long it would take for him to get in here. Who’d you piss off this time, Cretos Jones? The man who wants a harem of whores dedicated only to him, and always available for his every need. That’s not a Dom… that’s just an entitled man-whore.
Nottadaddygrrrl says
Thank you for the forwarning vs poster! Will reconsider everything I thought I know about him!
Tayanna says
12/10 would not reccomended Cretos Jones. Even if last man alive
All Purpose says
#21. What is funny are the people who are scared of that Haze & Greyson family to the point they kiss their moronic asses rofl being afraid of idiots behind a computer is stupid. Could be that the owner is one of those scared people because that is obvious bullying and it is nasty to bully an older woman about her age. Grow up rofl and this is not their first time bullying.
Caster Troy says
You do know this thing called Banter, right? you’ve never joked about someones age? i say it all the time at work ” so such and such has been here since the dinosaurs roamed the earth, wait, they had electricity then? “, seriously, its always the Karen country America getting offended by everything, go touch some grass.
Reset says
That wasn’t banter. It was bullying.
Don't ask Just listen says
Banter is one thing but when its every time the poor lady talks in the chat and its only the Haze’s that do the responses then its ageism bullying. If it doesn’t bother Carrot then it’s her game and feel free to keep on keeping on but it is sickening to see for some of us who know how the Haze family are. Why don’t they go in their own IM to cut down each other? Because they feed off of the bullying in front of others is why. It’s much funnier to do it at the cost of others. Why haven’t they done that to any of the other older women there? It’s bullying and others in higher positions wouldn’t put up with it is why. So I guess we are all Karen’s. It takes a Karen to know a Karen and adding Americans to your paragraph good try on making us think this post was someone in the UK or another country. We all know its a Haze defending their fake life fake Haze mafia leader.
Caster Troy says
lol you think I’m a Haze? What ever helps you sleep at night I guess.
roughneck says
i bet the hazes aspen trip was just all gossip and drama, and the person they bullied never deserved the bullying i was there it wasnt banter.
roughneck says
the whole of CC just needs to crash and burn
Speaking up says
It is one of the worst sims now
The Real Michael Boscorelli says
#72 This post is hilarious. In a virtual world full of “Cum Dumps” you’re trying to insult or target another person? Chances are you’re a “cum dump” yourself. Why you mad, she shoot you down?
WhatIsYourDamageHeather says
Every cum dumpster has multiple dumpers happy to help with the load. It’s all fun and games until someone turns into a Puritan.
CedarCreekisDead says
idk whats worst New Haven or Cedar Creek with all the bosses and shit fucking everyone
Just here for the popcorn says
going to miss all this
Okay Becky says
108. I am 5’2 im real life. I want to be 5’2 in SL. Why is that a problem nowdays?
Blaise Glendevon says
It’s not. People are just incapable of minding their own business.
The Original Laughing at You says
everything in SL is about 25% larger than in RL. Do the math and adjust accordingly.
wat says
It depends, older stuff tends to be oversized though.
Newer builds, not so much.
Caster Troy says
Because people see an avatar under 5ft and automatically call Pedo or child, because people are Stupid! for all those calling small people children, yo do know that Humans come in all shapes and sizes right?
SonofaPitch says
If your height needs to be rl why not add your weight and age too? Bet it’s gonna look kawaii, Becky! 😉😂
Bismuth Manicotti says
Um. Becky. That secret is measuring in heads not inches.
Okay Becky says
76. After reading the article… This almost made me puke. Also, the final week of Virtual Secrets will be a banger now Im sure 👀
Poopscum says
#5 Dj Adam is skeery. He is gonna kill someone for putting him on vs. gosh I bet everyone is afraid he will splat their avatars. It’s like grade school, meet me at the flag pole. Yikessss!!!!! Now that’s scary!!! I’m still waiting on that top secrety virus that’s gonna fry my pc. It’s been how long now a year or two? Keep on lying and trying Adam the scary boy lmao
Keith says
Lmfao 🤣 He such piece of shit for human !!! He couldn’t blow up shit, He too busy putting pixel dick in his bitch because has no real life.. His life living on SL, He believe that SL real is life. He makes his self what his bitch wants so he will be prefect man for her., He is liar, threatens kill his self when don’t get way or told no. He cry wolf none stop, sends out photos and videos of himself crying and trying kill himself to people online, In act of getting attention and his way. The man not even man he over size grown child mentally sick still lives with mother and serious mental illness. Which medically documented by state he lives in. Can’t hold RL job has no driver license.
Threatening people right lift. Only this time he going Jail over this threatening and stalking.
You should look up Records You see Real Adam
He has Stalking, Threatening Assault ( he assaulted his own mother) He has numerous CPO out on him by women he abused and stalked.
It’s sad any woman online would fall for him he proven over many years what type person he is. You tell by just talking to him he not right in head..
WhoF*Cares says
LMFAO !! HE COULDN’T BLOW UP NOTHING!!
HIS LIFE IS LIVING ON SL
IDGAF says
Lmao!!! Adam couldnt blow up computer if he tryed! He too busy putting his pixel dic* in his Bit** is mouth or her. He very sick little boy in man body,That lives with his mother. He hides on SL, Can’t have a real life in the real world. He believes SL is real life. He makes him self what his sl women wants him to be, To be the prefect man/husband. He is full of lies, He threathens to harm himself right and left when dont get his way with people or to get attention from others. Or with club owners and jobs places on sl and when dont get way with women on SL, He sends out videos and photos to her or people of him trying to harming himself, To get them feel sorry for him and getting his attention he has to have and send out photos of him crying. He stralks women and others on SL. He will go to others screaming to them to help him get his woman back or his job or friend,. or he threathens them because they wont help him.
Who writes this shit anyways... says
Fun fact,the word is spelt scary what is skeery? With that type of spelling we would do better just to listen to a hooked on phonics audiotape. The fact you can spell like a third grader in this whole paragraph. Well, it shows just how relevant you are. Please sit down, least Adam’s real about what he believes in. Your just here for cool points which won’t happen so yeah stop trying.
Poopscum says
I bet you’re kin to be less ignert! Hey Maw, can I borrow your tooth?
The more you know... says
Since we are giving English lessons, allow me to weigh in.
You forgot a space between the comma and the in your first sentence.
This would read as a complete thought if written like this:
The fact you can spell like a third grader shows how relevant you are.
In the next sentence, you meant to use at least I am sure.
The last sentence has multiple grammatical issues. The most prominent issue is the use of the word your. Your is possessive. Your use of the word is incorrect. In this instance, you need the contraction for you are, you’re.
In this sentence, you also need a comma after happen.
I hope this helps!
Who writes this says
Fun fact. I don’t think anyone should take you legibly because you can’t even keep your spelling consistent. How do you first spell scary as skeery and then spell it correctly? Someone must have had too much fun on a hooked on phonics audiotape. You want to talk about grade school ish but can’t even say it to the persons face. I don’t know what’s worst someone who doesn’t have a proper English lesson or someone who contradicts themselves. Please get off the face of the internet and stop trying to attempt to be relevant.
Poopscum says
Bless your heart! You really think I can’t spell. God love ya, oops you. It’s a joke.
The hooked on phonics is older than I am. Try something new for a change. You’re skeering me lol
IDGAF says
LMFAO!! He such Littlle boy in man body! has no control over his penis
Yikes says
81- HAH i knew id see him in here one day. Man changed his name and tried to contact me again after I cut all contact with him, pretending to be a totally different person who mysteriously knew everything about me. Hes a walking red flag and loyalty is not in his vocabulary.
He's a walking red flag says
don’t forget to mention the alts. lots and lots of frickin’ alts used for harassing his past girls.
Former Soviet Nation says
82 – Since the article went out, Xeolife and Tweenster have moved to a new region, Zoie, which is blank of anything but their stores. The disturbing bit? Zoie is rated G, which means actual children can end up there since 16 and 17 year olds are allowed on G regions. Not beating the pedo accusations with that move.
Bacon and Legs says
It moved back in november last year though
downwithunderboob says
And of course Patch owns Zoie.
A-Kid says
Xeolife wasn’t just a kid thing. It was a “life simulator” with scripts you put in things so they’d react to the HUD and refill needs (it’s the Sims basically). There were adult beds with Xeo scripts in them but I had no idea they were being sold on a kid region. Tweenster though… that’s a kid body and it was the one I used. Absolutely skeeved out by this.
Spectator says
#49-52 TWI will do nothing, like they did nothing the last time her name was brought up on here. She is friends with the owner and staff. They have supported
this zoophile baby fucker for years and they aren’t going to stop now. Shame on you for allowing this in your community.
plasticfishtoy says
You can get away with anything if you have the right friends. Sad thing is, I doubt most of the people that go to TWI know of any of this.
Something needs to give says
82: This article an incredibly long and difficult read, however it is an important one. The content is distressing on multiple levels (do take care if you have genuine triggers over child abuse, rape, sexual abuse trauma, or workplace harassment trauma), particularly to how deep the allegations goes into the foundation of SL as a whole, going beyond the allegations of Patch Linden himself and other moles. Highlighting concerning allegations regarding Caspervend (which now the question of its acquisition by LL certainly at least needs to be questioned due to the direct links to the allegations of breaches of LL ToS by LL employees and allegations against Casper Warden).
Make no mistake I am disgusted by the entire thing and it needs a third party formal investigation, especially surrounding the breeches of local (Californian) law in regards to CP and Doxing, AFAIK are criminal offences in that area. Again, this is allegations not to users but of staff of LL directly both ‘on and off the clock.’
In my personal opinion; Loki Eliot should be removed as Fantasy Faire region builder immediately and any associations with it stripped from him until a thorough third party investigation has been conducted. The proof presented towards allegations of conduct and content are abhorrent and do not support the values of that of Fantasy Faire.
As a creator I will be immediately switching my vendor systems to NOT Caspervend, this is a huge undertaking but I personally cannot know the content of this article and its allegations and be okay with continuing to use this system. Subsequently I will also be removing any and all items from Marketplace, as this is now directly linked with Caspertech. It’s a blow, but it does not sit well with me personally to be able to partake in that with these allegations at hand. I do this for fun and creative expression and what is presented here does not align with my personal values. This is a personal decision, not a debate point.
I want to address peoples concerns over the legitimacy of Robert Bartos. As someone who has worked in journalism in “RL” it is incredibly common for well established and long serving professional journalists to publish various works or publications under different pen names. This can be for various reasons such as having a pen name for different fields of reporting, protection of identity being two of the big reasons; among others. Medium (the agency this article is published on) will have legal documentation of identity internally under their own contracts and will be up to them and their legal team should that need to be brought into the judicial system. In the case of Mr Bartos I do suspect this may be the case by the statement of:
This indicates that this is likely the case. It’s not uncommon, especially in the cases of whistle-blowers.
Such is also presented int he case of the Former LL Security Manager; Kavya Pearlman. We can see from the article that she is engaged in legal battles with LL (in courts for clarification). As this is the American judicial system (and I am going to assume California) there is the potential that legal filings are available for the public to find. However at this time depending various “Legal Things” (to put it simply) may not be available for the public at this time, or until the dispute has a final ruling. Depending on the settlements; it may never be. I’m not 100% familiar with the local or state law so I cannot say with certainty. However I would suspect that the case may be under proceedings for some time, especially if ‘rabbit warrens’ are opened up and need to be investigated alongside it. That’s not even mentioning delays in court due to overloaded systems.
As for the article itself, I do agree that parts of it are sensationalised particularly when they are speaking in regard to how the introduction of PBR will fuel such instances of allegations of this in the future. I simply do not agree with this. I do not think [PBR] is more or less of an incentive for those who wish to engage in such content. When you break the article down; yes it focuses on the visual element of it (SL after all is a visual platform) however it also notes the interactive elements such as attachments and scripting. As it stands, as far as a coding language, LSL is a fairly simplistic language and has its limitations. However all in all, no matter the limitations that will never deter someone who is that driven to do what they want with it; for good or ill.
I would expect LL to release a formal statement addressing the allegations, but that is not guaranteed by any means.
I would encourage everyone to read this with a critical thinking mind, discerning facts from sensationalism and their own investigation. Do note that; yes, SL is an ever changing environment and elements can be removed from instances and may appear differently than at the time of gathering of Mr Bartos’ evidence to substantiate his article. UUIDs of course always remain the same (but we do not have an open record of the UUIDs mentioned in the article) and AFAIK only LL itself can pull archeived data on sims. For those who know how to pull website data regarding removed content (or perhaps using opensource tools such as The Wayback Machine) will be able to do that for anything not published directly into the SL platform surrounding these allegations.
I am going to end this unintentionally massive reply with the direct quote from the end of the article, which I will remind those speculative of the article’s allegations that it openly invites state and federal law enforcement to not only investigate the allegations but also that there is evidence they may call upon. (Again please keep in mind that not all of this may be available to the public, however could be called upon.)
Stay safe, stay vigilant and be good to one another.
#NothingButTheTruth says
Do not believe everything you read on the internet! Specially in sketchy websites that do not verify anything that is posted in there nor their users. I will believe it if reported on credible sources, until that happens for all i know that Mr Bartos could be just some former employee with an agenda against their former employer.
Truth says
He IS a former employee with a vendetta.
Bored Guy says
What makes you think that?
Sketch says
Too much to read, so I will stick to the Casper part.
Will you still make money over what Linden Labs offers?
Will you still log into Second Life?
Will you still cash out over Tilia?
Will you still buy food and pay your rent with the money you make because Linden Labs provides you with a platform to do that?
Why the hell would you want to switch your vendor system at this point, Linden Labs owns it, just like everything else you are using to buy your chicken tenders. Casper is employed and is not owning it. It’s such a Karen thing and the only reason you do this to make yourself feel better. It changes not a damn thing besides stressing yourself out.
At the end of the day you are still using Linden Labs to make your money so what’s the difference?
Why pay MD/ Salt & Pepper for a subscription, why get sketch ass Alomancy made by the most sketchy group on sl that created the vendor system to be less visible and to make it easier for them to avoid the tax situation.
You guys need to start to put a little bit more work into your thought and not jump on every little first trend.
As I said before, block little shit child avis on sight if you have any influence and take it in your own hands. Every single adult playing a child ain’t right in their head.
Mrs Slocoe says
I have long understood that the press (professional or amateur), does not work for the peoples interest and only its own. It’s need is to make money, it makes money through sensationalism and regurgitating what its demography readers/ viewers wish to see or hear.
If they had, the press would be more open to pushing governments for scientifical debate over personal emotional hysterics, conspiracy theory’s and society brain-washing semantics.
Wanderer says
Sadly myself and others started digging and all the accusations on Loki check out. His easily found IMDb with short films he’s admitted working on and listed as writing have the exact cover art also found in detail on odinboy666 fanbox pages. His old blog for odinboy666 on aryion.com makes references to the same films and projects, by the same director that also creates films based on a book by a convicted paedo about cooking and eating a boy. The mid 2000s Loki Eliot blog at demonkid666.blogspot.co.uk has early versions of images also found on odinboys fanbox page. His writing style is the same, art style is the same. Old works found on odinboys rule34 profile, from 2009 are watermarked as Lokiboy. Seems to be the time he separated the two lifestyles, for obvious reasons. He should remove himself from faire, or be removed immediately. His art and stories are not subtle. They are graphic rape, mutilation, consuming and murder of young male children. This should be condemned by all involved with RFL.
sherlock says
im actually working on a vendor and rental system, even more so now after reading this article.
diacentra says
#1
We all know SL is a hot bed of intrigue and drama and people who hide behind alts and sneak around spying, and apparently snapping photos. When Arella and RB chose a photo to call “Sara” because they couldn’t actually find one of her and Whyiman, because none exists, they thought they were being so smart choosing a photo of someone outside of Xaara who would not have the nerve to step forward. Guess what folks? They were wrong!
For the record, I’m Dia. Just me, no labels or special titles. The only thing I am “adept” at is painting SL vehicles. That’s me in that really lousy photo. Never thought I would be in Virtual Secrets, let alone post #1! To be clear… I am not a member of Xaara. I am not a domme. I am not a sub. I am not Sara. I did not consent to the use of my photo. And I am not afraid of bullies and game players and won’t have my photo used by people who are using it in a lie for their own agenda. I am just a bystander dragged into the personal vendetta of a woman someone actually told “no”. This woman will do anything to hold on to her illusion of power and control in one of SL’s BDSM communities and she doesn’t care who she uses or how. She is supported in her efforts by her little man, RBQuinn and his army apparently.
So that clarified, I will now go back to my happy vanilla world of painting planes and boats and running my SL business and minding my own and wondering why people who claim to be so strong and powerful are too weak to use their actual names and own their own words.
But since I have been drawn into this I get to give a piece or two of advice before I go. You are a fool Arella. Did you never read The Scarlet Letter? Its 2024, but its sadly still a man’s world no matter how much you domme up, and its mostly still the woman who goes down while the guy skates merrily away. I met the dude when you hauled him around on a leash at your husband’s b’day party. No prize there and I predict he will pitch you under the bus to save his own undecided sorry ass before this done. And RB, own what you are. People can be remarkably tolerant and accepting when you level with them. Oh and one more thing…when you cut and paste the headers out of a post from last week to make your own this week (#80), always color match the yellow background exactly so its not that obvious.
diacentra
Alpha Clash says
Oh, you are a sight for sore eyes. Truth behind the image.
RB will definitely throw Arella under the bus. One of his prior collared subs changed her name and ran like hell for PG areas of SL to get as far away from his abusiveness as possible. She isn’t his only victim, just one who almost said he was an abusive git when she sent a farewell note to the main Xaara group. Unlike Arella, some of us can do math.
Aimee Starlight says
31 – because posting shit about people anonymously on a website dedicated to whining isn’t toxic, you illiterate cunt. Most people learned to spell in grade 2. So pathetic its amusing.
ShawSkankRedemption says
Oh look it’s cunt 2 of the three cuntmigos.
Aimee Starlight says
You’re all so tough anonymously, come tell me to my face.
Notthatcunt says
What are you going to do Aimee? Offer to suck my pixel cock to make tier? I know you’re good at that.
Aimee Starlight says
Still to terrified to IM me huh?
Notthatcunt says
Now who is acting like pathetic grade 2 child. It’s a gossip site no one is going to waste their time on you or your little band of dumb whores. The irony is you are here defending a nasty old whore that stabs you in the back constantly. You’re even dumber than I thought.
sidechick2.0 says
Actually, it’s more fun to watch you act like you have a spine. Fake ass bitches, all three of you cuntmigos deserve each other but she does have a knife aiming at your back, i should know I used to be her sidekick, now I am just the side chick. Why would I IM you, so you can type in ALL CAPS at me? it’s all you could possibly do.
Neo says
Seriously you sound mental. Stop embarrassing yourself. Everyone knows she hates you. You know what she says about people, why do you think you are immune?
harhar says
Fuckin’ hilarious how you can’t defend her character. All you got is trailer trash attitude.
ThatGUY says
I could possibly see you defending Farh and being her “sister” you should have her back over Ana’s, especially after all the shit she talks on you. You are a whore whose cunt pays for her sim. STFU and go back to sucking some cock, something you excel in.
Aimee Starlight says
Excuse me if I won’t take advice from someone to terrified to speak unless their identity is masked. 😀
Ophelia says
Are you okay? You know you can just jog on back to the other maledom club and stop being so affected. It’s really not worth getting yourself so upset over. Especially as Aimee is literally laughing at your attempt to get in her business. I know it’s hard, but I’m here if you need to talk. Alternatively, take a look outside your window. There’s a whole world out there that you’re missing out on <3
Sidechick2.0 says
Yet, you don’t deny her toxicity. Bawhahahaha, Stupid cunt, jealous you are not center of attention?
Redtoad says
You should watch your back, Ana has a knife aimed right at you. Who do you think started all of the shit between you and Levi?
BowDownBitches says
I am speechless she is defending the bitch she outed to Levi about fucking Toxx!
JustAGirl says
You need to leave poor Aimee alone. She is trying to be healthier. Step one, would be pick better friends. Why are you defending her, you used to have your head on straight when you were less stable.
no padam padam 4 u says
#32 all mentioned are all of the above. the Hardwoods and the Arrows especially so, cant help but laugh every time i see their stupid wannabe queen faces.
never forget Ben Hardwoods creeper voice thats the furthest thing from sexy. he’s a walking incest joke
Chester says
I mean. I know one of the Arrows. He’s just British, so… </s>
Vinnie Arrow says
@padam Who’s the wannabe Queen?? Sounds like we have a very Jealous little princess in our midst maybe one of those we said no to or one of the Mysterious Empires, Sorry we have morals and we don’t have sex with our family members most of us are in loving committed relationships. Sorry if I’m a prude who chooses to be in a committed relationship and doesn’t want you.
Az Arrow says
Meh… *Shrugs*
Ryno says
@padam- So, these kinds of posts are a sad testimony to the decay of society. What purpose does directive hate like this really serve except to spread discontent. I have found its usually best not to cast judgement on others. I hope you find happiness.
rottentothecore says
haha. He is. He tried to get me on my college age alt that I was playing a few years ago. I was like. Um…no thank you.
lagertha says
97 The fucking bitch from Scandalize stealing again? How disgusting, in less than 15 days he robbed 4 different stores 🙂
Tired of Idiots says
Call 911.
lagertha says
No, I’ll call your fucking mother
Wtf says
LOL
Poopscum says
Tell me it isn’t true. Omg use the red bat phone and call Batman for gosh skes
lagertha says
I’ll call your fucking dad when he dresses up as Batman
Trolls says
Jajajajajajajajajajajajaja
Poopscum says
Let me know that number if you find it. I’d like to talk to him too. Being he has been dead 12 yrs now.
PoshPink says
Hahaha 🤣
Hellrasier says
#95 Yea, this is a common thing. Every time I go there and watch, its the same group of people winning every time, same song different dance. There is for sure favoritism here….so fucking boring. As far as the management goes, its all friends and if you aren’t in the same friend group with them, they act like you don’t exist and they act like you should just kiss the ground they walk on cuz,” I aM a ChAmPiOn!” Honor Pro is a fucking joke, they do not even run shit there, there are a few there that run it. When they do not get their way, they cry and bitch until they do. If it is that much of a crisis, just fucking quit! The only people who know this thing exists, is the bullies in the federation any how lol you aren’t that impactful. They have sponsors that really keep them afloat and might I say a few notable mentions there…….are a little concerning to associate with. It is just hilarious on how bad they treat their members that VOLUNTEER to do this for the people while behind that scenes they treat them like pawns in a game. I have seen better performances in porn!
a memory says
Funny part about that many of them do infact do porn reason why the show looks that way.
DiggingGraves says
82.Holy hell. When I reach the article end and saw the names I felt so nauseous and dirty.Seeing AlexBailey Uwu on there wow.While I always knew he had some weird kinks in sl. Things did start to make sense. A handful of years back he stopped regularly playing as a grown woman av and changed to a tween femboy. He kept insisting he was just a feminine man and not a kid he was just small. I guess now we know the truth.Alex has been part of a big age play and pedo ring in sl. I hope these people lose their accounts as well as get fired from any jobs.
I don’t know Patch or the others. I’m only familiar with Casper by name but have never heard anything positive about him as a person.
Just gonna sit back and watch and see what happens in the coming days
Raven says
@109. LOL
Witchy Morbid-Witchy Morbid ,Rαʋҽɳ ϻ-Bratty Wicken
Idgaf says
Seems you all really like to stalk this person and have nothing better to do with you’re lives. It’s actually pretty pathetic really. So.glad this site is leaving soon.
Just Me says
@109 & @5 There both fake as fuck I saw these
twoat Ohana together few days ago, He was the Dj.He needs serious help, You tell even by listening to him. How he djs and how he talks he fake and has huge issues.
Idgaf says
How can you tell someone is “fake” if you don’t personally know them? Sounds kinda judgemental if you ask me? Especially if you don’t know Witchy. Kinda sounds like jealousy or envy. As far as Adam, he has his own issues and likes to air them out for the world to know. I think Witchy is just caught up in it all. But that’s my opinion
Who writes this shit anyways... says
That’s funny, because last I checked if you didn’t like the music you could leave the club. Not like anyone wants you at their club anyways. As far as Adam being fake, child he’s not fake. Fact is, you’re just not in tune with the world. Though, It’s ok one day you’ll clearly understand what’s fake and what’s real. Word of advice stop stalking people you claim to so suck or are fake. For right now we’ll just chalk this one up to the fuckit bucket cause fact checker says your faker then dog shit. Aye by the way next time you want to sneak diss someone grammarly might be your friend. Talking about fake this fake that yet you hiding behind a fake username ain’t you Willis?
Who writes this says
It’s funny I don’t know rather to believe this shit or just go ahead and believe fact checker. I mean, to be fair why in God’s green earth if a dj supposedly sucked…would you stay and listen to their set? Fact is your just here to feel relevant. So you can say aye I posted on virtual secrets before it became a demolished piece of shit that it was built to be. You want to say he’s fake or she’s fake yet the only person here seeming fake is who? You. Wanna know why? Because it takes a lot for someone to dj, hosting may and can be easy. But no one can just spin on second life this sjit ain’t press a keynote and sounds pop out of its ass like on imvu. It takes dedication and skill both of which you could never possess in your lifetime Even if you attempted to. It’s ok though, we’ve all been there wanting to fit in and feel relevant. Next time pick a different topic of which you know nothing about
Just Me says
Someone else is using my ‘Just Me’ signature?
Chaos’s says
It about time someone call this bitch she needed blasted for years in her fake bullshit and lies and stories she tells.
Idgaf says
Do you know her personally? Do you know her outside of sl to say her stories are lies and bullshit? If not then your comment is irrelevant. You sound like a keyboard warrior. If she’s so bad as you say, why not confront her yourself?
Who writes this shit anyways... says
First off witchy or dahlia isn’t a bitch. Nor did she need to get caught in this. Just cause Adam’s ex can’t get over herself or him and wants to slander him on some bullshit pathetic site like this one. You truly don’t know the real witchy cause you would know she not a bitch. Might wanna go look in the mirror you’ll realize who the real bitch is. I mean you can sit here all day on a rumor site til it shuts down next week. For the good of grace no one will ever miss this dump truck of a rumor mill site. Yet you cant go face to face when calling someone a bitch? Well anyways hope that personal issue works out for you. Not her fault you can’t come to terms with reality stop smoking ya mommas kush pipe you might be able to.
Who writes this says
First off, she isn’t a bitch and doesn’t need to be blasted on some pathetic rumormill of a site that a baboon runs to feel relevant about a second life they used to have. I will gladly be happy when this trashy no good site shuts down not like anyone reads it anyways. The fact you missed is that most these pictures is from another issue. Seems like virtual secrets finally became virtually boring? Back to my paint point though, you wanna say she needed this or needed that. Yet you can’t say it to her face and need a pathetic forum message board to say what you feel. Who’s really fake around these parts? Believe it or not dahlia or witchy didn’t deserve to be brought into this beef with Adam and his crazy ass ex. Witchy hasn’t done anything wrong and people need to hop off a rock if they think she has.
Aili Panthar says
87- do you expect people who make shapes to keep track of every store they use stuff from and constantly update notecards? A lot of these issues with unavailable items in stylecards would be solved if the marketplace mention a date when something was added to the marketplace so you don’t buy a shape that was made in 2018 and get a bunch of closed stores in the stylecard.
SKYZ CUZ I WONT HIDE MY MF NAME says
70 30 & 48. LOL no shocker there. After victimizing herself against me and then leaving con as if he was nothing but some new dick before replacing him. It’s sad really. As you tell everyone else “you should really grow up” it’s disgusting kiki. Or should I call you kristina. Grow tf up and be an adult. Go find a hobby or an actual job and do something with yourself. You have legit manipulated every kid we ever had and made people see me as someone im really not. Why? Because I got sick of your shit. Because I made you actually be AN ADULT?!?!?! Imagine. So glad I left that and I hope every person on this platform despises you. 🖕
Blimey says
#82. Well, that was long. I read it all. This will be as well I guess.
First, I have no clue who the source is (or his sources are), other than his name, which has no direct links or bio anywhere. So, of course, it’s slanted to their “investigation” without any sort of vitae. A bit of credibility as to the who of who is behind this would certainly give it some legitimacy. Otherwise it smells of a hit piece that may be self serving for whatever reason. By whom we have no idea.
Yes, these allegations and some of the photos could be damming. But are they really under a different narrative? The knee jerk is to be shocked. Yet when you break down the narrative, without any alternate facts, and without any legitimacy of who is writing this, does it amount to anything? Sure, it’s odd. But is it egregiously illegal? That’s where this comes into question.
No doubt, some of these things would be clearly wrong on the part of Patch Linden acting as an employee of Linden Lab if found to be true as documented. Yes, there may be grounds for termination as such. “If” being the key word. But to take this to a level of some kind of massive conspiracy within all of SL is a bit much. The actual impact to users is probably minuscule if at all.
The reality is that the only people “speaking up” are those who worked under him and seem to have an issue. This may be legitimate. Sure. But what they say is nothing more than what any aggrieved employee often says. Terms like “toxic, sexual, manipulative” are often the words used when an ex-employee (or a current one who is miserable) looks to gain attention and exact revenge. Where are the specific quotes and actual stamps showing this?
Does ageplay exist in SL? Of course it does. Everyone who has spent enough time in SL has accidentally crossed paths with it here and there in different forms. Is it some widespread and destructive community that is overwhelming the grid? I certainly don’t see it, but perhaps others can comment otherwise. I see kid avatars now and then, but most seem innocuous. I am honestly baffled with the obsession here. But I don’t role-play and am equally baffled about all the role-play drama.
What is clear is that anything even remotely related to a child avatar is low hanging fruit in SL for anyone to grab onto with an axe to grind. That’s probably the biggest takeaway. And reason enough to consider whether anyone even wants to go there in creating a young avatar. I play a bearded middle aged guy, probably a good thing, well, until someone says, “He looks like a pedo!”
Concerned Citizen says
I have never read anything to the tone of “Well Ackchyually“ in a very long time on this site.
Well done.
I will agree, there is a lot of talk on ageplayers on this site, and a lot of false flags pointed in wild directions, but the evidence is there, however curated to allow for a public posting. The article author did state it was willing to share with the Law and the Lab if they reached out. The most egregious stuff cannot be put on the article for that reason. Even what was shared is pushing it.
https://i.gyazo.com/bb51c685169562a42c813e4a9fc7150b.png
There is a blatant abuse of power that Patch can/has allegedly done towards anyone who speaks up about this on an identifiable platform. He should be held accountable.
someoneiusedtoknow says
i did put the article out for LL to read on x, its the only place i felt they do watch from time to time.
IHeardItThruTheGrapeVine says
@ Blimey 🫵 You sound an AWFUL LOT, like a pedo apologist.
Common Sence says
While i think the whole sim and items is a smoking gun for Patch. There are a couple of areas where i do agree with above posters.
Buying Caspervend is actually something corporations do all the time. It’s basically a way of buying a product without you developing it. The journalist didn’t mention that that’s how many companies have accumulated their product line. There’s two thought patterns in Product: You either make the item inhouse, that means you own all of it and the production cost. Or you buy it and just tweak it to what you need. Depending on how much you quote for inhouse, buying is sometimes the better option.
Hence why companies buy CRP and ERP systems. Cruiselines and Airlines reservation systems rather than create them inhouse, even if they have enough developers for it the lead time and the cost may be multiple millions and the product isn’t a guarantee. While acquiring it is cheaper.
This does lead me to believe the journalist may be unware that sometimes in the Product world it’s not just nepotism but rather how companies manage products and agile scrum development which can be flawed. Add to that the unprofessional area and you see a problem but being a female that’s worked with product departments I can tell you toxicity isn’t exclusive to LL and yes-men leadership isn’t exclusive to it either. HELLO (Trump). He’s much more common as a department leader than people know.
I would have rather the article concentrated on the sl stuff and not the inner dynamics of departments as Most corporations are sadly toxic environments full of favoritism and red tape and quite frankly yes men.
Common Sence says
And for those that do not understand: yes men or yes-men are people that surround leadership and never question them or contradict them even if they know the decision the executive made sucks and in the long-term will be wrong.
Okay Becky says
People dont remember but before the marketplace, we had xStreet which was a marketplace created by an SL resident. LL bought xStreet and used it to create the Marketplace that we know today. So, then buying out something like Caspervend wasnt anything new and them bringing him on to run it makes sense too.
Not taking up for Casper or anyone mentioned in the article. Just seems like many forgot how the marketplace came about or maybe joined SL after the Marketplace was already implimented.
Common Sence says
Very true. I remember that. It’s also standard process. How many here have seen a company acquire a company in order to use or add a feature.
I have.
#NothingButTheTruth says
I did read it all as well… Do I believe it 100%? Hell no. We all know pedos are everywhere and SL is no exception. But such accusations written under no reliable source are doing nothing but damaging the community as a whole.
Why would someone go through such time consuming investigation to then publish it under an unknown website and an alias? Weren’t they able to gather enough evidence to stand against any possible lawsuit?
Coincidence or not the same day this publication comes out I get an inworld advertisement to another virtual world… Was I the only one?
TruthSeeker says
First, it seems you don’t truly understand how investigative journalism works but this will be long enough without having to also give you a Journalism 101 lesson. And, second, did you actually read the article with any real understanding? Allow me to rebut your claims, paragraph by paragraph, because it seems to me that you are doing your best to downplay very serious allegations that, by the way, have been made many times in the past but without the support this story has to finally back those claims.
Kai says
#77, 78. Really feeling like I dodged a bullet there.
Bored Guy says
65.I don’t get it. I am literally 6ft and I tower over a lot of women. There are alot of females that are really short including ones I am usually around. Also, she looks like an adult so your futile attempt at finger pointing kind of backfired. b for effort though.
Atleastpointthefingerintherightdirection says
Pigtails on adult women are now forbidden!
GenXistentialCrisis says
I get what you’re saying but, she’s wearing heels, which means without them she comes up to about his waist. Even at a towering 6 ft tall, most adult women would come up to at least your chest. While I don’t think it’s necessarily ageplay as she doesn’t resemble a child in any way besides height, it’s still weird. To be fair, though, men need to chill out on maxing the sliders, too.
Yeah says
This here. My (female) avi is not small, and lately I’ve been seeing dudes that absolutely tower over me. To a ridiculous degree. It seems to be a specific style of avatar, so I’m assuming it’s a trend.
Mom says it’s my turn on the Xbox says
My female avatar is 6ft and still comes up to belly button or crotch level on some males. It’s definitely a style of tall slim males but the bodies are already prebuilt pretty tall. More ppl need to realize this.
donkey says
i was going to say something sort of like this, my husband irl is almost 7 ft (~213cm) tall, and I’m 5ft and 7inches (~173cm) which is not really very short but it’s comically shorter than he is. People in person judge even, but I’m a grown woman. Most of the other women we know are even shorter than I am! Also it’s not really fair with height difference, because of relativity in SL. My avi is nearly 6ft (~183 cm) tall according to the menu and I size myself in relativity to the world around me as best I can, making sure I fit furniture somewhat accurately but it can be a little stressful because different furniture fits differently sometimes. I definitely don’t look 6ft in world and people still poke fun about how short I am but it’s so annoying because sorry I can’t be almost as tall as the men and fit in animations and look correct in things all at the same time. I’m just doing my best. I’d need more reason to think about this being “pedophilia” or “ageplay”. I would worry more about people who dress and ACT the part, than just people who are dressed appropriately and are clearly adults, with a height difference. People are just jaded in SL about this topic. Your avi is too tall, your avi is too short, your avi is too fat, your avi is too thin because it doesn’t fit their preferences. too skinny or too short? Ageplay. Diverse WOMEN with diverse body types don’t exist. and someone below me is right too, male avis will sometimes be ridiculous too how are they still so much taller than me when im way taller in game than i am even irl???
unless of course there was more context to the post besides the height difference but we don’t know so i stand by this reply.
TheDevil says
34-38 Tom,,,just stop your obsession with HP…do you want the D or what? you have SERIOUS issues dude, for real
WhatIsYourDamageHeather says
9 – Yes, if that God exists, He did assign my gender. I was gendervoid at birth. Just because my genitalia looked female doesn’t mean anything. As the Psalm says, we are wonderfully made. He knew us from the beginning, shaped us in the womb. He put non-binary gender markers into heads like mine to piss off people like you. This way, others know you need to be brought back to love and taught how to think. Me? I’ll just laugh at you.
27 – Monkeys could DJ? Ok, prove it. You first.
44 – Whether you’re being stalked or not, your armchair psychiatry credentials actually say “functionally illiterate and completely misguided.”
46 – Annie’s right. You’re a pissbaby.
65 – That woman is not pre-pubescent. At all. How many twelve year olds do you know with pear-shaped figures and breasts that sit like an adult’s?
82 – One VP is why 20-year-old tech under two decades’ worth of editing, patching, and re-writing works as remarkably well as it does when you take all of that into consideration. I’d call that a hell of a good job, but why when you can make up shit?
103 – YES. I adore the one-size sellers. Fatpacks at less-than-fat prices and I don’t have to delete eight other sizes I’ll never need.
107 – Projection is the specialty of bigots like that. Though wanting to kill off people like me and many of my friends makes me wonder if they’re trying to self-medicate depression with rage. It’s also possible they’re a badly raised man-child who can only express anger and envies those of us who have a broader range.
108 – And every time I see someone taking out their frustrations about their tiny little lives on people who do them no harm like this, I want to make an alt who looks like that just to hunt them down and fuck with them. Derender that which offends thine eye or get the fuck off the grid, you snowflake.
Missy says
#88 Just sounds like yet another scorned ex bf/gf who can’t hide their jealousy
lol what says
10 – Vote with your wallet. Cute everyday clothes doesnt sell nearly as well as slutty/sexy clothes do.
46 – and she’ll probably keep you waiting you entitled twat waffle. She doesn’t owe you an update. The product worked at the time you bought it. Did you even read her post? The expectation of receiving free updates for items is unrealistic and entitled. Move on already and find something else to wear.
91 – Jesus Christ let that event stay in the grave. I’m definitely not shopping there or letting any of my creator friends enter especially when the Kunt family is involved and not the original owner of the event……. PS….did you even ASK Cindy if you could recycle HER event?
97 – Trend isn’t Scandalize… Are you high?
99 – So just vote with your wallet. If enough of us stop buying items where AI is taking over the ad pic, eventually they will knock this shit off.
100 – Join shitty events, win shitty prizes. What did you expect? Literally never heard of this event, yet they charge creators 9k? The creators willing to pay that must have some brain damage.
103 – Nice to see other stores are finally doing what Wraith has been doing for a year and a half….
Mhm says
91 Sounds like your just a jealous hater lol
lol what says
hater? After witnessing what the Kunt family has done to people I care about? Yes.
The fact that their ringleader drove a man to take his own life IRL just so they could date the man’s RL wife is far too disturbing to me and a colossal red flag.
The Kunt Family is trash says
Ask Shelbz Rivera to share her story one day. Or Her Friend Ane maybe she will tell you.
If any of you were smart you would stay away from them.
Educate Yourself says
Remember there are 3 sides to every story. I heard all I needed to hear. Think what you want, get caught up in all the bullshit gossip but keep my motherfucking history with my husband out of your stupid cyber bully bullshit. Grow up!
ProgressManaged says
The hilarity of anyone connected to the ringleader having the unmitigated gall to call anyone a bully.
Disgusted says
Yeah that’s like you having the unmitigated gall to bring up suicide without having all the facts of or even be apart of what actually happened, You honestly should be ashamed of yourself but I highly doubt that because everyone in this place just seems to want to stay relevent and be internet bullies because they were unloved as a child in real life and it shows.
Bringing up suicide in any circumstance REGARDLESS of who it is and why is just the most disgusting thing I have actually read in my life…when you think this wretched place can’t get any worse It is people like you who give it an even worse name. And the fact that the owners of this site have the AUDACITY to place Suicide call hotlines and promote talking to people but then allow these kinds of comments is honestly the most distasteful and humiliating thing I have ever seen from this site…honestly thank god it is closing down.
I think it is truly time some of you went outside and touched grass and talk to a therapist to get the help so many clearly need. Because I don’t care who you are suicide is not a joke and shouldn’t be talked about like that, you don’t know what is going on in peoples life or the trauma they could still be processing from having gone through such an experience…That shit changes you forever and I am so sorry to the lady of the husband, that this person felt the need to bring up such a sad tragic experience into something that had NOTHING to do with it to begin with.
ProgressManaged says
I didn’t and have not said a word about suicide but I understand reading comprehension drops in the wake of self righteous indignation.
I think you truly believe that telling someone to touch grass is good advice but I’m not the one here defending a predator who has preyed on women and other creators in SL for almost a decade while handing out therapy advice. The Stockholm is real with you but I’ll make you a deal. When you can learn to read who it is you are responding to before you climb up on your high horse I’ll stop on my run that day and touch some grass.
Enjoy your glass house. It’s starting to crack with all those stones you’re throwing at the wrong people.
P.S. Let’s not forget the original point of the name of an event being stolen from the original owner without permission. Imagine that. A Kunt stealing something from the original creator.
Disgusted says
Is it stolen though without permission or is that just the assumption you are making? have you personally reached out to the owner and asked? Or just running your mouth with more dribble..here have a tissue, we don’t need a puddle on the floor that would be a safety hazard.
I’m not throwing stones at anyone but pointing out the real facts which is something you all should try sometime. But that wouldn’t make you sleep better at night I suppose…unfortunate.
Listen I would love to sit here with the back and forth but I actually have a life, so best wishes to you and hopefully you find some happiness in yours.
lets not says
“Progress Managed” What a interesting name to hide behind, but to be clear, I am talking directly to you, just so there isn’t any confusion for you or anybody else. 🙂
Selene was given permission to take over as the owner of SuicideDollz by Cindy BEFORE she was in the Kunt family, and she was apart of the original staff back in the day too so nobody is stealing anything from anyone.
If you have anymore questions you’d like to ask and not just assume on, feel free to reach out to the SD event manager or anybody on staff.
For everybody else reading this –
#91 was posted by a anon without any malicious intent.
While yes, people from the Kunt family are running the event, they haven’t done anything wrong and have gone through the necessary steps to be able to bring back SuicideDollz.
Bringing up a man that is no longer alive had absolutely nothing to do with this event, it was uncalled for, and the death was heartbreaking to everybody involved.
Stop hiding on a disgusting site to spread more rumors.
Half of them are filled with lies just like with most ‘big’ people and families here on SL.
Pull your big girl panties up and talk to people directly about your issues with them instead of being two faced.
Aspen says
I really don’t know who any of you are. I assume, K, Havi, Naddy, and Lava posting here and I really was going to stay silent but you’ve made sure that wasn’t going to happen.
I don’t even know where to begin in the circus of your abuse, manipulation, explotation, and lies. I really was going to stay out of this but now you’re shopping around my dead father’s obiturary, my LinkedIn, and my place of work and sharing RL pictures of me with others you’ve made sure that not only will I not stay silent but I will tell anyone that wants to listen what a lying manipulative piece of gutter trash you really are.
From the time I joined the Kunt family Mr. K’s attention on me was laser focused to almost the point of uncomfortable obsession with me. Often times harassing my partner about my whereabouts and RL information about me. If i was not online for some reason he would insist on knowing why or if i was not present when he was logged in he would insist on know where I was and why.
The most noticeable thing that was off was the use of racial slurs in voice calls to the point of him actually claiming to be black iRL to justfiy it. Constant use of the n word and racist jokes about black people and jews specifically to the point of making jokes about jews burning in ovens or going on a ten minute tyrade about how ugly jewish women are because of their noses. I wish I could say that it was limited to him but there are others in the core group of that family that continually make racist jokes and call people racial slurs when it suits them. Specifically G-Money, Naddy, Noddy and Mr. K.
There were instances of impromptu songs about killing black people from Naddy when she was high out of her mind, spirited conversations about shooting immigrants from Noddy because apparently they are taking all the jobs and Anti-Semitic rants wishing that Hitler had done a better job from G-Money because someone killed him on Fortnite.
The next indication that something was off was right before our wedding. As I am a Satanist after talking about it Raven and I agreed to a Satanic ritual for our wedding. He began to constantly belittle Satanism and started to preach about the superiority of his Wiccan beliefs and his abilities to read minds and speak to the dead, even going so far as to try to claim that my dead grandparents and my dead dog were speaking to him about me. All of this information he already knew.
To follow up with this extraordinarily strange behavior he started to insist that Raven and I have a bonding ritual with him before our wedding which sounded strangely like our planned wedding but with only him. We both politely declined. He then began hounding us both at why I had locked him out of my mind and wouldn’t allow him to read my thoughts any longer and for awhile this strange and concerning behavior seemed to dissipate but I had already found myself quietly planning a way out.
The next incident happened a few days later when he went to his daughter Lava with whom I had become close and played Fortnite with often. He started to pressure her for information about whether or not she and I were involved in a sexual relationship. He was worried that it would make it seem like we were one of “those familes” that encourage incestual relationships. His story started with members of the family being concerned but quicky changed to it was really only him when she pressed him for names.
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Shortly after that Solis wanted to play an RTS game with me and we went into a separate gaming channel on the Kunt family server. He immediately started asking me why i was in a private call with his wife and warning me that I should stay away from her and stop being in calls alone with his wife. I immediately shot back with Havika being his wife and that we were only playing a game which he could easily have seen because I was live streaming the game in an open channel on the server but he started to insist that I only play games with him. He then insisted on telling both myself and my partner that Solis is a fake and untrustworthy person that “slings her cunt around to get what she wants with her fake phone sex operator voice.”
For a couple of weeks things were fine. Fortnite and voice chats were the norm until the racist commentary started again and then one night he decided to tell me that in his opinion I wasn’t trans. He specifically asked me why I was pretending to be a woman and that in his opinion my soul felt more like a femboy. This conversation went on with me maintaining that I who have been on hormones and under the care of a specialist for gender affirmation for almost five years.
After this he started to become insistent that I become his SL Kid. Because I am married to his SL sister I found myself in another situation where his behavior made me extremely uncomfortable. I asked him about complications with my wife since that would make me having gotten married to my aunt.
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He didn’t seem to have much of an issue with creating an incestual relationship in his family at this point though and it only seemed to feed into his strange and unusual obsession with me.
I began to feel uncomfortable being on voice calls after that and had begun planning how to leave the family and get far from him and safe as possible. Three instances I was on calls after that were because of the non stop pressure. In one of these calls he decided to play a game with me about someone who was begging him. He kept giving me clues while illustrating what a user and beggar this person was in nameless examples. Soon the clues stopped being clues so much as his describing someones appearance and position in the family Christmas photo. I continually said please don’t do this. I don’t want to say this persons name until he finally said the name of this persons partners and kept saying that i needed to say the name until finally I did because I was in such a panicked state that I just wanted him to stop. It turned out that he was talking about Vix and went on a rant about how she is a clueless untalented beggar and the only time she hears from her is when she wants something free.
Amidst all of this he was still pressuring me to be his kid. Raven and I had since moved off the family land to a place of our own which resulted in him telling her he has ways of knowing we haven’t been on the family land and he wants to know why we are living somewhere else. So in addition to the constant racism, passive aggressive threats and transphobia we learned he was spying on us as well.
I regret accepting his invitation to put my store on one of his sims because it lead to him trying to control my business from attempting to redesign my logo to his liking with an image that didn’t remotely reflect my brand or aesthetic to being forbidden to make anything sold at Cult because he wouldn’t allow direct competition despite him creating things that directly competed with my brand regularly and additionally claming that I wouldn’t be accepted into events unless I only made one type of product.
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The second time was a call with himself and Naddy prior to the grand opening event at my store where they tried to get me to cancel it claiming that an event in my store would cause vendors to stop working at Cult even though the two outlets were not on the same sim. When I pointed out that scripts and agents on a different sim would have little to no effect on his store unless someone had an excessively large draw distance they changed their tack. They were irate that I did not ask permission to hold an event in my store and when I pointed out that they had never indicated permission was needed he started to shout at me about how Cult pays his bills and puts food on his table and what a successful business man he is and that I should be careful who I upset because if I upset the wrong person they could lock me out of events because SL events are controlled by a small “mafia” in SL. When I wouldn’t back down he started to become irate and ordered Naddy off the call and started to tell me about what a dangerous person he is iRL and that he has killed people and been to prison. I started to have a massive panic attack and switched off my computer and went to calm down.
A few days later he wanted a call to clear the air which included him, Havika, Raven and myself. In this call he started in on me for disrespecting him by leaving a call with him without saying goodbye and how I owed him an apology despite the fact that I told him that I was having a panic attack and incapable of being verbal because he had upset me so much. It was during this call also that he refused to use my correct pronouns because it went against the way he was brought up. It was also during this call that he attempted to lie about me begging to be his kid to Havika until I referenced conversations about him continually asking me and offered to provide screen shots of those conversations that he dismissed the subject.
To add insult to injury I was approached by another creator and asked to rebrand their store. This included a new logo, ad templates, hud templates, supporting scripts, marketplace and discord related media. We agreed to the sum of L$20000 for this work and I had already started to create the logo when Mr. K decided to insert himself into this agreement and create and give some of these assets free of charge. As a result the creator no longer wanted to honor the deal we made costing me this sum of money.
In addition to this I have worked on mesh for Cult and written multiple scripts without being paid or acknowledge for my work.
We would never really speak again after this but he would start to constantly question Raven about me. Asking personal questions and asking why I wasn’t around like I was before until this all culminated in Lava messaging me.
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I unfriended and blocked her on Discord after this conversation. I left their servers and removed their name from mine. I started to panic about my store at this point and quickly started to locate land during which I was kicked from the land management group for the sim my store was one despite having paid for the entire month. I was fortunate enough to have already been looking for new land because of his troubling behavior or I would have been without a place for my store.
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If you’re reading this and you are queer, not Caucasian, Jewish, thinking of joining this family, or doing business with him. Don’t. He is a troubled racist, transphobic and an Anti-Semite. He doesn’t honor business agreements and freely shares private real life personal details about people without their consent as well as personal confidential conversations. He is nothing short of a predator and I have been his victim for a period of months. I only write this so that when questions are asked there is a clear story with receipts to back it up in the face of the lies he is already attempting to spread about me to club and event owners and even my own wife.
It really did annoy me that you tried to turn my own partner against me by sharing RL information about me with her as if she and I keep secrets but showing around my dead parent is low even for an untalented hack like you. I say untalented because I know which RL designers you have stolen your designs from and I have had extensive correspondense with their legal teams. When they come for you and they will I want you to know it was me that set them on your scent.
Disgusted says
Bro you really need to get a life Idk who you are but how much time do you have in your life to read a 3 chapter novel that no one is going to read xD also if you’re going to post screenshots atleast post the whole conversation and not just the “snippets” that people can read and take out of context that might not be the full story or what it seems.
The Kunt Family is trash says
Bro, this is not the first time nor the last time anything like this has ever happened. LOL.
Get Closer says
Anyone who spends enough time with these people and gets close enough to them, 1 of 2 things happens.
1- you end up a manipulated sucker and worship the ground they walk on no matter what any of them say or do to people
Or 2- That peek behind the curtain made you run for your life and never return to the circus.
These people ironic enough are like a cult.
The nerve any of them have to sit here and whine about what was mentioned when multiple times they’ve sat and joked about and talked shit about this man who took his life. It’s disgusting. They should all be shamed of themselves no matter the story behind why he did it or anything else surrounding that situation ( and I have heard several variations of the story )
Also people telling the truth aren’t “internet bullies”
The Kunt Family is trash says
How many wives does he/she have have?
I mean August Torii said Mr. Kunt was a she. When he tried to “Dom” her at Havoc, btw that public proposal was pathetic af……LOL I remember Bray and Aser busting up on a discord call so hard over that wiht Auggeh, Auggeh couldn’t even defend it.
Ane said Mr. Kunt was a she.
Shelbz from what I remember went RL with Mr.Kunt said was a she.
Several other who were “involved” with Mr.Kunt said he is a “she” I mean what is the deal. Havika is Mr. Kunt’s Wife, now Educate yourself is Mr.Kunts wife. Or do you need mulitple emails and IP addresses to validate Mr. Kunt? Last I knew Polygamy was Illegal even in Australia? Or is Mr. Kunt a he/she…I am so confused now.
The Kunt Family is trash says
So I went and asked one of Auggeh’s sisters, who was a Fireburn and she did some reaching out and came up with a few things. Thougt I would share a couple Kunt family classics:
[2020/03/28 20:25] βrαy Ἠλύσια™ Ŧιreвurn (brayleighhope): Shane nearly destroyed a lot of things
[2020/03/28 20:26] Ɗαятн Äѕєя Äмαяα Ƒαηg (asergaottie.cabassoun): mhmmm
[2020/03/28 20:26] Ɗαятн Äѕєя Äмαяα Ƒαηg (asergaottie.cabassoun): I still wanna know what clicked in Auggeh’s mind to see the truth
[2020/03/28 20:30] βrαy Ἠλύσια™ Ŧιreвurn (brayleighhope): She said when he proposed in local and she saw what he pointedly said about us, Meren, Jaedyn, Iris (others closest to her)
[2020/03/28 20:31] Ɗαятн Äѕєя Äмαяα Ƒαηg (asergaottie.cabassoun): I was there remember, I could not help, but start cracking jokes to jaedyn, on voice, and laughing hysterically. Jaedyn kept telling me to shut up so she could pay attention.
[2020/03/30 21:11] Äѕєя Ŧιreвurn (asergaottie.cabassoun): So why did you get with little boi Kunt? Seriously bestie? Did me not bitching in your early daily and us blowing each other’s cell phones up and the phone calls and arguing and discord calls not mean shit to each other after 10 years?
[2020/03/30 21:11] ⱭƲGƲƧƬ (august.torii): I really thought I wanted to try to be submissive.
[2020/03/30 21:11] Äѕєя Ŧιreвurn (asergaottie.cabassoun): LMFAO I could have failed you before you started.
[2020/03/30 21:12] ⱭƲGƲƧƬ (august.torii): Bestie please don’t
[2020/03/30 21:12] Äѕєя Ŧιreвurn (asergaottie.cabassoun): What
[2020/03/30 21:13] ⱭƲGƲƧƬ (august.torii): I found out the hard way that she is not dominant, was heavy handed, manipulative, at first ii was great, but the proposal and the things she said was an eye opener then I started seeing things different, and what you and Bray were saying, the others started popping in.
[2020/03/30 21:13] ⱭƲGƲƧƬ (august.torii): I messed up Aser, I am sorry and I love you bestie and I should have trusted those my real family but I got played.
[2020/02/15 20:51] Aѕεя ғιreвυrɴ (asergaottie.cabassoun): Cala is a serious bitch she talks a lot of shit about the kunts, then auggeh goes to the kunts and separates from me by my choice I get close to her a bit and we talk and she and I don’t see eye to eye on some things and she is just down right rude and she says she does it to everyone and well tis a difference of opinion and you can call it me getting butthurt or what not and she talked a lot of shit about the kunts, and auggeh told me shit about her and things she said and did concerning me that came out of auggeh’s mouth supposedly and then when auggeh leaves the kunts now they are bff’s….I don’t trust her at all and you can never and I mean never repeat this ever.
[2020/02/15 20:53] ღ Jαedyɴ Ƈυρcαĸε Fιreвυrɴ ღ (jaedyn.eldrich): I won’t but I also know she saw the light with the kunts they were close when they were both with them.. aug left cuz it was toxic.. it took cala some time to see that.. same with Missy.. she left too after she saw it for herself
[2020/02/15 20:53] Aѕεя ғιreвυrɴ (asergaottie.cabassoun): I understand
[2020/02/15 20:53] Aѕεя ғιreвυrɴ (asergaottie.cabassoun): but she talked a lot of shit about auggeh and said auggeh was talking shit about me
[2020/02/15 20:54] ღ Jαedyɴ Ƈυρcαĸε Fιreвυrɴ ღ (jaedyn.eldrich): yes she was no doubt brainwashed by the head kunt. You know this as well as I do love.
[2020/02/15 20:54] ღ Jαedyɴ Ƈυρcαĸε Fιreвυrɴ ღ (jaedyn.eldrich): yes it was wrong im not saying that it wasn’t. Auggeh has not been the same since she got brainwashed too.
[2020/02/15 20:54] ღ Jαedyɴ Ƈυρcαĸε Fιreвυrɴ ღ (jaedyn.eldrich): but i’ve noticed alot of the people under his/her thumb follow blindly and do what he or she says. God I don’t even know if it is a he or a she. Everyone says something different. Maybe just call Shane Cousin It from now on.
Say what you will about anyone I listed above, I am sure you Kunts will have all your comments. I know Aser has his haters lol I am sure you all will jump on the bandwagon with the comments lol I expect it because you want to save face. I just copied and pasted what I was given here.
I expect it, it’s what VS is all about right.
Havika says
Speaking as the RL wife of the man who took his life, you don’t know a god damn thing about any of that. Why not speak about something you actually have facts about. This is a new low.
Did you know this man? Did you know what went on in our marriage?
As the widow of the man who took his life, suicide is not a joke and it definitely shouldn’t be talked to on this site. Surely this violates some terms on this site. Maybe I should report just to be sure.
Disgusted says
This is such a DISGUSTING and uneducated comment especially when it is not a true statement,have your personal reasons to not like someone that is fine, but to bring a subject like that in let alone when it is an untruthful one is just downright disgusting. No one makes someone off themselves it was a decision he made himself and no one else. please… educate yourself on the truth next time before talking about a subject like that.
The Reaper says
IDK who you are but you really should keep your mouth shut about things you clearly don’t know shit about. Do you have proof? I doubt it. If this were factually proven to be true and not just a belief, you seem like the type who would have posted it here to begin with. Not come in over a year later to randomly comment on a situation you obviously know little to nothing about. Keep in mind this site is not without flaw on being 100% anonymous. Js.
Someone says
To me that sound like you have no idea what you talk about. To blame someone else for the choice they made to take there own life is so wrong on many levels, you have no back up stories or anything. Maybe use the Internet for some good reason and find some mental help or a hobby. Since your life must be so boring, dont want you to take your life and then have someone else blame it on your family because they didnt kept you entertain
The Widow says
You sit there behind the safety of your home and secrecy and spew bullshit that you know nothing about. Your hate for someone has taken you to a place that reaches the lowest of lows, you really should be ashamed of yourself. It is a very bold claim to make that someone on the other side of the world drove a man to take his own life. Did you even know him? My husband that is..or are you basing this statement off of what others have said? I do know one thing, you didn’t know shit about our marriage.
It’s sad that you think that you have any idea about who a person is, but you follow along with the others who think they know a smidgen of anything about people.
Keep on talking, if that’s what you need in your life to feel complete, so be it.
It has to be a hard life to live when you carry so much hate.
Here’s to hoping this comment gets approved.
ProgressManaged says
Sounds like you need to brush up on your basic grammar and being less obvious about who you are.
Alpha Clash says
1 – I know who that isn’t under that ugly attempt at text over a picture. Anyone with eyes can figure out it isn’t Sara. Also, most of Xaara knows who the only person is who calls her boy McIntosh.
14 – Arella? You think Laz is your what now? You can’t even use the slang correctly. Also, fellatio is a trust exercise with few parallels as well as a damn good time for both parties regardless of the power dynamic. No wonder you’re jealous of anyone who gets to do it. (Side note to the card maker: either you got guts or you have a source. Either way, kudos to you for sharing that.)
80 – [Rocky Horror] Same card, cheap copy-paste, bad “dominants.” [/Rocky Horror] No, I don’t mean Whyiman. Good dominants would quit acting like catty little bitches and live better lives. Even if that means one of you has to quit faking to take to his knees for his dream girl.
diacentra says
Well spotted! I can say unequivocally that is not Sara. Because its me, who few at Xaara know because I am not a member. Which is exactly why they used that photo. And you are right – someone needs to send their girl to a Builder’s Brewery photoshop class.
harhar says
31 + Stalks her exes with alts and online status trackers.
ThatGUY says
So true, I take it Aimee is now her protector with the little dislike. Someone needs to send the clueless bitch some logs of the things being said about her.
JustAGirl says
Stalks even exs from years ago. They are not thinking of you sweetheart. Move on.
WTF is going on?! says
Is the website under attack or something? The upvote/downvote buttons are super laggy, I gotta click multiple times before it finally register my vote. Also a lot of posts seems to disappear suddenly for no reason, and some others have hundreds of votes in like 10 minutes, like wtf I know its gonna close next week but come on…
#102
Seraphim is trash now, half of the weekend sales events that they blog are just links to facebook galleries or other websites, they still blog Happy Weekend but there’s almost always some stores/items that are missing, same thing for some other sales too, so they’re not reliable anymore.
Though tbh weekend sales in general aren’t as good as they used to be, between the recent price increases, some stores just putting trash items or just repeating the same items every few weeks, etc. I still check a few good stores that are still putting good shit on sale during these events, but overall it’s not really worth it anymore sadly imo.
blep says
1- that’s an event owner choice
2 – that’s HW’s choice on how they choose to NOT send over information
3 – Seraphim doesn’t make the fucking weekend sales, they blog coverage of them
The real issue is a way oversaturated market of events, leading to shitty event management. You want to complain about the people running events. Not the sleep deprived people trying to get anyone to actually send them an accurate notecard.
but I’m gonna guess this is an owner of a competing blog anyway 🙂
WTF says
Wrong, Seraphim doesn’t give a shit about what the event owners wants, otherwise they would’ve stopped covering Happy Weekend when the latter asked to not be covered by them anymore. But since HW is one, if not the most popular weekend sale event, Seraphim obviously didn’t want to stop covering it, they’re clearly half-assing it though.
HW is not disclosing the information to the Seraphim team directly anymore since the feud, but they send a notecard with ALL the stores and items on sale every weekend via their “Access Update” group. So no, the blame isn’t on HW but on Seraphim for not doing their job correctly. Now, I can’t say if they miss some stores/items on purpose or not, but it doesn’t change the fact that they’re not reliable anymore.
You’ve also missed the part where I specified that they’re “blogging” the events. I know very well that they don’t make them. My opinion on the steady decline in quality of the weekend sales isn’t directed toward Seraphim but is a general statement about the current state of said weekend sales in general.
And one thing I’ll agree with you though is the fact that there’s far too many events now. Some of them I don’t even bother checking them at all because they’re just full of crap or repeated items every week, or they’re forcing people to use some annoying shitty HUD. I’d rather shop on the Marketplace than use that kind of shit, it’s one thing Seraphim got right with their Lazy Sunday event at least. Shame that the quality of the blogging of other events has declined since…
But I’m gonna guess this is a member of the Seraphim Team anyway 🙂
sherlock says
Dear patty and all other Hazes, please f off and leave the rest of us out of it! kthnxbye
Sinful Goddess says
79 – What, exactly, do you have against sex workers? You’re probably out here sucking noobie dick, for FREE. Meanwhile, she’s out here making bank. Is it that you do, for free, what she gets PAID to do? Look, Karen, just because you don’t like or think sex workers are trash or don’t deserve respect, or whatever, that doesn’t mean a damned thing. At the end of the day, you’re just mad that you don’t make money being a slut. You’re pathetic, and sad. You won’t come at me. You don’t have the guts, or knowledge.
Suckthis says
31&16 Wow, I am tempted to think Ana posted these herself to gain some pity or to remain relevant. Oh, poor me, everyone picks on me. *eye roll* She puts the toxx in toxic. Sawyer must be so proud! I wish the cancel culture was in SL because that girl needs to be cancelled. All true but is she really worth the effort of making a post? #CancelAnaToxx
Bitchplease says
Sawyer is a manwhore that would fuck a corpse if it was still warm. Look at his disgusting whore of a partner, Ana. That cunt has had more cock than a tranny in prison.
ThatGUY says
They both look like fucking fools. She just uses the same lines for all of them. Oh 2 negatives could it be Aimee and Ana.
imnotarobot says
Typical day in ow group chat.
Sawyer says something.
Ana: That’s my man and we fuck!
The desperation is so cringe. Kills chat every time.
sidechick2.0 says
Well, you can tell how important she is to Toxx by how much is not in his profile. Bloss had such lovely in-depth dedications, you could truly feel the love and devotion there. Who’s that girl “she’s mine”, basically says, this is the bitch we don’t tell I am fucking you. It’s void of any real feelings.
JustAGirl says
No, she wrote books for all her exs. Full profiles. I think it’s apparent that she doesn’t really fucking care about Toxx. We all know she only dated him to make Levi jealous.
Redtoad says
She picked him because he’s easy to manipulate. She sends him to try and do her dirty work but he’s too dense to be effective.
sidechick2.0 says
I am not a corpse, but I am currently fucking him. The best part is I waited over 3 years to repay what she did to me. Right in front of her face, she thinks I am her bestie, trusted, gullible, weak, and keeper of all her secrets. Surprise! its time someone gave you a taste of what you do to every fucking female in SL. Karma is a bitch, and she has my name.
Redtoad says
I don’t know how you put up with her shit for 3 years but dish! Spill! She deserves to feel the pain she’s inflicted in SL.
sidechick2.0 says
I did not put up with her for over three years. bawhahahaha !!!!! I would be as fucking insane as she is, if I would be stuck around. I just reappeared when I saw my opportunity, she is so desperate it was fucking simple to do. From sidekick to sidechick. Toxx was the easy part of the plan, he is desperate for bright and adorable.
Bitchplease says
“I am not a corpse” This made my day LOL. Anyway, why not? She lies and cheats on everyone she’s been with. Welcome to karma, Ana. Even your little bitch and minion Aimee can’t protect you from the truth.
BowDownBitches says
https://www.tiktok.com/@unknown_angel.devil/video/7178782358936521989
You are legendary!! This song is so fucking perfect. It was written for a simp bitch.
harhar says
Love this! So how about it side chick? One last spill for the last edition of vs?
Neo says
Your are my hero! Don’t let them dull your sparkle lil one.
Neo says
She calls him a manwhore behind his back, she has for years. I did get a good chuckle when I saw they were an item. So New challenge for fun. Can anybody name a man that Ana hasn’t fucked yet?
chokes says
If you can’t fuck that skank, you seriously can’t get laid in SL. I figured her a few times, easy lay, boring as fuck.Couldn’t get wood in RL. 1.5 out of 5 stars.
Redtoad says
31 would require insight that Ana doesn’t have.
harhar says
Think it’s a coincidence that OW’s numbers are dropping off? Ana chased everyone out and this is what you get for keeping her around and defending her. I’d say dump her toxic ass but it’s too late, the damage has been done. Enjoy the fall!
The Pink Flame says
5 — this adam guy, says no drama on profile, yet uses the word fagot… wonderful… you heteros are a joke.. you ARE the drama…
Who writes this shit anyways... says
Least he can spell the word. What’s your excuse for being a advocate? You LGBT people who like to point fingers are the reason why there’s issues in this world. But we on this earth should be able to love whomever we want right? Fae get a life.
Blaise Glendevon says
Room temperature IQ hot take.
imagine that says
read here
V
Fuck off no one cares about your lgbtqp shit
An ass is all you will be
Good job reading this
God you are stupid
Ofcourse you’re upset cry babies the lot of you
Time to get a job and stop crying
Blaise Glendevon says
Is this supposed to be a string of coherent thoughts written in legible English? If so, it failed.
BeHumbled says
#70 Its about time someone exposes this bitch ass. You should be KNOWN as a mass cheater. You aint shit MattyBoy be HUMBLED. Take it like a MAN and own up to it. Or just continue to have your little egotistical fake ass family hold your hand and patt your back and cover your shit up. Act like you didnt do nothing wrong. Poor matty. Grow up bitch and stop playing women. Any chicks wanting to date this nasty mf. He aint worth it dude wont go past second base. Waste of time. RUNN!
Judge says
Ok Alana yeah i know it’s you for one your a toxic little cunt that no one gives a shit. Oh and im nasty? im not the one that says sexural shit in front of your rl own son i am honestly concerned you know that most people think your fucking your own son right? Don’t believe me ask your man i bet he will hesitate before he says no just a heads up. I know i aint shit nor do i care to be but thank you for your opinion it has been noted.I don’t think im better than anyone else and im human ofc i make choices that people do not agree with do i care no not at all because there my choices don’t even regret meeting you to be fair don’t get me wrong i don’t care for your existence but ya get my point. As for my family why family why do you care so much? Don’t you have better things to do i dunno like be a mother instead of engrossing yourself in a game and in drama? Idk seems pretty important to me. Anyways got a problem with me talk to me like a adult not some whiny ass teenager and dunno why you try and hide ya name lol kinda silly.
Ps. unrelated note,
I support sl secrets for exposing the pedophile shit that go’s on on sl shit is fucked up keep up the good work!
Alana says
First off…. ^^ That wasn’t me you fucking dumb ass. Second and assuming Dude, Im talking like that to my son is fucking gross. So I don’t know what the fuck you are on about… But I guess you pissed off the wrong girl… Because lets face it Judge, You and I Dated for what two weeks while you were hooking up with two other girls. Heck you even told me one night you had to sleep on Sl with one of your “FRIENDS” Because she said she was scared to be alone because her family was gone that night… Meanwhile You and that Girl were hooking up… So yes Judge you do like to mess about with other girls. Do I have a problem with you… no not really…. But let’s just face it… Your name should not be Judge… Because You like to judge others… Do you want to tell the world why we are no longer friends…. here I will tell everyone here… why and it’s because you lost my respect on what you did to your girlfriend. You even said to my husband that you and Sadira only did that photo to make me jealous.. HAHAHAH…. Why would I be jealous… like for real… I have moved on. I’m happy… So best of luck to you.
BeHumbled says
Yikes… Sorry you wasted your time with this cheater. Sounds a bit right though Matts done this to multiple of his gfs. Like why not just be single if your gonna be a fuck around? He apparently likes the game I guess. Its funny hes wondering why hes being posted on sl secrets. Just proves how fucked up in the head he is. Only cares about himself. Smh.. Goes by the name Judge than doesn’t allow others to judge him. Lmfao. Hes a clown. Honk Honk Mattyboy you fucking bitch. (;
Alana says
He was like you have called me “mattyboy” and Im like when have I ever called you that… it’s always been Judge or Matty. He was like um when you wrote that notecard to Sadira… and Im like (opens my inventory because I save everything and get the note card and I send it to him) the only names I called him was Rat Boy and Boy George. it’s like there there Boy George.
p.s. Judge Boy George and Rat boy called they want their looks back. LMAO
BeHumbled says
The fact hes fronting over someone calling him MattyBoy when alot of people have called him that is nuts. Than jumping down people’s throats with no proof. He must be over there shaking mad reading these comments lmfao. You know why hes so upset though Alana? Because matt is a spoiled bratt in his online family he gets whatever he wants. Matts never in the wrong his whole family has to walk on egg shells around him because he’s emotionally unstable and cant handle the truth. The fact he came at YOU first. Shows how guilty he is when it comes to cheating. I mean why you if he didnt cheat on you? Why any of his exs if he didnt cheat? Because he did and thats reverse psychology right there for you. MattyBoy needs to take his manic god like persona and shove it up his ass. He aint untouchable. He aint shit.
Alana says
I know im not the first one he ran to and bitch at.. That person told him to grow up and then she blocked his ass. We have been talking mostly all day about this just laughing our asses off. But I have to say it’s pretty sad that he speaks down about his so call family. I know that Sue has helped him out with money. But who hasn’t given Judge money. I have the screen shot on my phone. But what is funny is that he has lied to so many people. “oh i didn’t ask them for money and shit” I have the proof.
BeHumbled says
Yep.. He uses Sue for sure. Its sad she doesn’t see it. The amount of people who have told and shown me matt has told them he doesn’t even like sue. Is crazy to me. Than she continues to be his family and have his back when he shits on her and this shits been going on for YEARS. Its fucked up. I mean its not just sue he does that too but thats one of the big ones. He shouldn’t be bitching at nobody. Instead He needs to take some accountability for his fucking actions and stop being a coward. Im honestly shocked nun of his family has commented anything in his defense cause they damn well know hes done some fucked up shit. Nothing they say will help him. Just prove my point even more. But I do apologize for my comment bringing him crying to you. Your a victim of his bullshit he shouldn’t even have no buisness messaging you.
Alana says
Here is the mgs I wrote to Judge
After this message, you will not be able to message me ever again. My husband and I don’t even give you a thought in like forever. I will say two people did reach out to me about you about some things that you were saying about me. Dude, I don’t know why you’re even talking about me behind my back, but it really shows your true fucking colors.. you spoke a lot of shit about a lot of people… you told me that Kim was drama. You told me that Dean was a tool. And heck the shit that you said about Sue I hope the God she doesn’t find out. Meanwhile, didn’t she help you out when things got rough for you quite a few times I believe. When we had our little two week relationship, if you even want to call it that dude I was warned about you so much that I told everybody to fuck off and mind their own business.
You lost my respect and it wasn’t the day that you jumped into my box telling me that you would help my husband with his shape. Meanwhile, he does not need help with his shape or with his style. Come to terms with that that Sadira put you up to that because you never met my husband. I will tell you the second that she popped over to my land there were three other people there and she was talking about you. It sounded like she was already in a delusional relationship with you. I can give you a list of peoples names who asked me if you guys were together.. but you lost. My respect was the day I saw the craving you photograph on her Flickr. I don’t know why you cannot take responsibility for your own actions. You hurt somebody that you supposedly told you wanted to marry, fuck dude you even gave her a fucking ring. Heck, I even told you about Sadira. But for you to go to a website and write the shit that you wrote the accusations is fucked up because you know that’s false. I honestly think that you are so butt hurt that somebody outed you out and you know what I’m glad they did because you know what you’re a piece of shit. Asking people for money you’re nothing better than her. Oh, I’m sure you don’t know how many times she’s asked Weeb for money to get her chipotle, and her subway…. And she probably asked him to get her Chinese food too. I will even say that the notecards she even wrote me was pointless boo-hoo who she lost a friend because of her own actions. She knew that you were in a relationship. Also, because she doesn’t give a fuck. Also Keep my Name OUT of you Mouth!!!
BeHumbled says
Good on you Alana. Mr im an adult should have spoke to you like an adult before coming on here and blasting your information like he knows whos doing what. Let alone if you told him it wasnt you before hand. Should have respected that. He had no proof. He HAS no proof. Idk why he cares who the fuck I am Im definitely not you. Lmfao. He should be worrying about his heavy baggage cause shit its not my problem or your problem hes a cheater a liar and a fake ass. Im just telling the truth thats why the motherfucker is so pressed.
Alana says
You know what is truly sad is that Judge is now harassing his ex gf. Honestly he is truly dumber then stupid. and It’s also funny he mgs my husband telling my husband he is going to take down his comment… Because he went to far… SMH…
He is the sick fuck.
BeHumbled says
Woow. Smh. Thats sad and fucked. I don’t even know about all that situation tbfh. I just know what I know based off things of other people. Things ive seen and witnessed over the years. Not sure why hes obsessing over this discussion and harassing others for? Thats the thing about some people online. Nobody needs to like you and you can’t control who talks shit about you and if you think you can. Your not living in reality. Especially when you do people wrong. Things will be said. If you don’t want to be exposed for shit you do. Dont do it simple as that.
Mr. Izzy says
Judge is a walking dried up vagina!
Mr. Izzy says
WHAT THE “F”?? You sure acting like you care… Why are you ASSUMING s@#%!! Ok you are officially a stupid idiot. Making up stuff that isnt true at all about RL all becoz you assume things. Making false accusations becoz your very butthurt for what YOU did. This guy assumes about my wife that she wrote a comment, then messages her on SL (this dudes not even a thought of in our day to day) and accuses her of a comment she hasnt even wrote, then starts accuses her of what he is lying up there about and has big balls too call her drama when he out of nowhere just messages and accuses and talks all that BS up in that comment. Go kick some rocks and take your whiny a@# some place else!
BeHumbled says
Hes just an idiot. Im sorry your wife was dragged into this. I wouldn’t be worried about him. He doesn’t know how to control his emotions. Lmfao.
Alana says
He is just a dumb ass, looking for hugs LMAO!!!
BeHumbled says
He needs a hug. Mattyboy ALWAYS needs a hug. Sensitive little man. Haha.
BeHumbled says
Who the Fucks Alana? LMFAO Get over yourself Mattyboy you fucking scum licker. If I told you who this was youd shit bricks bitch. Your not ready for that tho. When you gonna tell Sue you dont like her? You fake ass motherfucker. Who do you think you ARE cause the shit Ik. Maann.. Maybe pull your head out of your ass and realise your actions should have CONSEQUENCES. Nobodys fucking scared of you. You are a huge ass cheater own up to it. Every girl looking to hop on your dirty tiny little dick SHOULD run. Your a waste of time. Excuse me for trying to tell the truth something you don’t know how to do. The way you treat people.. you dont deserve no sympathy or respect. Idk who you think you are but BE HUMBLED. You needa check yourself and stop being a whiner. So worried about what someones saying about you online? Boo hoo. Get over it. stop assuming shit. you have FUCKED alot of people over I could be anyone. Your one to talk about being an adult. Your not an adult your alittle boy. Adults dont cheat on women and treat them poorly. Buut dont shit your pants matty calm down my guy. You need a hug or something? (;
BeHumbled says
P.S The reason im commenting under a name is because tbh. Dont need to hear you crying in my inbox cause truth be told MattyBoy I dont care if your feelings are hurt. Nothing you say to me is going to change the truth. I said what I said and im certainly not sorry You deserve it. Move on.
Alana says
Wait let me guess he was in your box…. crying and bitching that someone posted him on here. Meanwhile He jumped into my box Bitching ((“So why ya putting me on sl secrets? what is ya issue with me then?”)) LMAO SMH
BeHumbled says
Lmfao this pussy boy would never be in my inbox. Whoever he thinks I am. I promise Im not. HE KNOWS why hes been put on sl secrets. For the same shit hes been doing to women for years. Dude needs a new hobby. Hes to obsessed with his online ego. Its common sense. You do this amount of people dirty. Karmas a BITCH.
xD says
-72- Hills estates got one too
Tea Sipper says
Who is it?
xD says
She is dirty and not the princess she deludes herself with but it looks like she finally learned her lesson
Az Arrow says
32. As the head of the Arrow family, I just have one question: Who the hell are the Empire’s?
Reset says
21. They’re embarrassing to say the least. The ageism that shows from Patty Haze/Penny Greyson and Gina Haze is down right disgusting. They are right behind Carrot in age. Gina looks like the Hunchback of Notre Dame in the face so it’s rich that she has the nerve to make fun of anyone. It is bullying and they are bringing it up and going on in the chats making fun of it. Amari Royal Greyson is joining in. Isn’t he supposed to be a mod? That place is fucked
o.O says
i read the poster and not once it said anything about patty or any haze calling anybody ugly, a joke was made, but you sit there, like a coward and call patty and gina ugly? who is the bully now! not once they called carrot or anybody in residents ugly,you are the bully, stop being a coward and if u have something to say, WOMAN up and speak up, they be glad to talk to you
Don't ask Just listen says
Woman up? Who says that only women feel this way about you Haze’s? And we know this is a Haze writing because none of them can spell for shit. They be glad to talk to you? Try hooked on phonics my dude. It might work for you. I think that people including me calling them ugly is because they are in both worlds inside and out fucking ugly. You want to attack for years and make fun of people it makes you a trolling little bitch who hides behind a screen since in RL you are irrelevant to your husband or wife while they are out hooking up with other women or men and you are on here trying to lure men or women to sleep with you behind their back. Sickening if you ask me. 40 year old’s emotionally cheating on their spouse. I hope they do worse to you like leave you run Forest run!
Be Less Ignorant says
77 78 Howling Hills is absolutely toxic. The only way to get by there is to keep your head down and not draw the attention of staff. I’m ready for Orc Crest to open up and their player base to half.
We see you Sumiko and Alien Vortex says
Funny how they get their little nevermore club to downvote, but don’t have anything to say.
Fuck all of staff and people who roleplay there. says
Don’t forget about Creature Enthusiast, Edith, Constantine Corvinus, Reuben, Miyu and Vergilsparda. Shady ass rude staff and half of them don’t even do shit. Everyone who roleplay there are fucking annoying anyway.
Anyways says
As someone who’s had an insider view, I can tell you this. Staff such as mods and anything lower level, gets mistreated by admins and owners. So definitely don’t put em in the same basket.
The OP says
Oh yea, I completely acknowledge that not even the mods and staff like the owners. They regularly go against their staff
Kai says
I feel like its safe to say I dodged another bullet with that sim. Lol.
whatever says
#82
i call it BS
“Robert Bartos is an independent journalist and I.T. professional with contributions in numerous publications over the past four decades.”
there is nowhere anything ever published by him to be found. smells fake.
Blaise Glendevon says
The dance to obscure that that link is a Substack and not a legitimate, edited publication’s sketchy too.
Justpassingthrough says
I think we all should wait for a legitimate news source to pick up the story.
Blaise Glendevon says
If this were as big a story as the author proclaims it to be, “he” would have tried to publish it through a platform like New World Notes, where the editor would hold him to some standard of journalism.
Raus! Raus! says
new world notes is just a LL mouthpiece. That guy won’t say anything bad about LL as 1. LL employed him briefly and 2. he likes to interview them. Also in the article they state “Due to the seriousness of what was uncovered even rumor of it being known was enough for Linden Lab or those acting on behalf of the company to send out legal threats to individuals they incorrectly assumed were responsible for this investigation”
You’re not going to use your real name for this are you?
Blaise Glendevon says
If I am accusing multiple Lindens of impropriety, I would use both my First Life and Second Life user name.
Raus! Raus! says
of course you would mate, of course you would
Mrs Slocoe says
I think most if not all who read that article, know it was written with a large degree of vitriol and retribution regarding workplace politics. I don’t support workplace bullying of any kind, nor do I support nepotism which to me, is far more of an issue than the big ageplay nothingburger that that article tried to sway poorly.
What is also more of an issue, is watching the pitchfork mentality going wildfire through the community, using this predicament to ban kid avatars, strip those who use them from their accounts without no questions asked. People actually discussing in New Haven into installing scanners, to scan children as they arrive. (Don’t you think you need a scanner to scan accused predatory Lindens too ??
As whoever mentioned that dumb idea of a scanner, sure also read through that article with bottle glass specs). Actually now blanket addressing people who may be totally innocent in how they lead lives, because of hysteria… choosing what was more important, instead of the glaring elephant in the room of what that article was trying to intend. The obvious target, NOT AGEPLAY!!
It’s very clear the writer cared not a jot about Ageplay, but used that as a means to sensationalize his/her own precious feelings, semi-doxxed people and threw a lot of kid avatars intentionally and unintentionally under a bus, because they felt precious and victimized..
Pretty psychotic to start that and pretty psychotic and privileged, to use a burner account to release a story, when if they were truly annoyed and wanted a story heard, they would have opened up their identity, which would have made the story viable and without sniper gutter-trash. To call it journalism would be an insult.
And if you really feel so bad about your work, to go to the lengths of posting that bullshit when you feel hard done by; go try working as a packer at Amazon and see what they have to put up with. Possibly on far less Linden rate pay. Then you have a place to actually complain.
Brian Lake says
Hi it’s me, the one that discussed installing the attachment scanners at New Haven. Hi.
If you have a problem with New Haven automatically scanning anyone wearing a “child” body, checking to see if they have “adult” attachments on, it seems you too are one of the issues. New Haven will be silently banning offenders for this There is no case I would ever allow anyone wearing a child body to also have adult attachments on at the same time, for any reason at New Haven. If you’re a child avatar and you wear adult attachments, I’d simply suggest you find somewhere other than New Haven if you don’t want to be caught. If you have a problem with this, please feel free to message me in-world (Brian Lake).
Blaise Glendevon says
I think this is a reasonable accommodation for the safety and comfort of your visitors, and a move in the right direction of individual sim owners.
Mrs Slocoe says
Now why would I think you would agree to that? Reasonable to whom?
I don’t think you thinking too openly, perhaps ?
To coin a quote from the person below “of course you would mate, of course you would!”
Blaise Glendevon says
Thinking isn’t your strong suit, is it?
Mrs Slocoe says
I do not think there is an issue at all nor do I have the “issues”, as long as it is above board and it is across the board. Not just for kid avatars. We have seen many adult accounts flagrantly breaking TOS by wearing leashes, working collars, scripted genitals, accessories poking out asses and so much more on both PG AND including areas in where family / child avatars have the freedom to roam. Even regardless of that, it is offensive to the eyes of those who choose not to witness this in places we do not expect. Therefore the right thing to do is address everyone in the same category, if you wish to keep your estate free from vice and questionable material.
And no I am not a kid avatar, I am merely addressing your statement with due scrutiny and your views, as the adult I am as seen as fit.
Do you have a problem with this ?
You get freaks in all shapes and sizes, especially on a platform with more freedom than most people have the sense to handle.
Please do make sure you address all of them NOT just the ones you feel are the risk, based on group led hysteria and panic. I think on that respects it is YOU that has the “issues”.
And if you cannot comprehend or understand what it is I am trying to instill to you, as a means for more open thinking and better judgement. Then I suggest you do NOT create a family operated estate, head to Zindra and open up a free for all knocking shop.
Now let the ignorant triggered cunts come with the thumbs down, seeing some people are talking sense; to which some others cannot clearly handle or comprehend!
Bismuth Manicotti says
I think scanning for both adult attachments and child bodies is a good move. My best friend and I have a private adult rated sim and compiled a list of child bodies like Tweenster and we’re just going to have our security system boot them with extreme prejudice.
Mrs Slocoe says
Sounds like a genuine typical SL Karen response. Get a life !
No kid is interested in your shitty sim, especially if private. You over-reaching your self-importance, dearie.
Give me your sim name, if you happy with your convictions you will have no qualms here, I will visit, take the names and I will boot you from mine.
God I can’t wait for Russia to start the threats, if national service comes in, I hope you are in my base.
I’ll work your flabby ass so hard, you won’t be obsessing on imaginary pixel pedos on a virtual platform. You will have something else to worry about.
The break in reality might do you good!
Gotta love these Karens fretting over 1st world problems, huh ?
Common Sence says
I am agreeing with this.
A-Kid says
I hope it does but for the kid community? It doesn’t matter now if it’s true or false, the damage is done, the pitchforks are raised. This is exactly what people who were anti-child avatar wanted to see come out. It’s why I retired from SL this week instead of next week like friends and I planned, the bad actors have won.
Common Sence says
After some search I kind of have to admit that this is true. I’ve looked at both google and other search engines and I do not find other articles by this writer.
#NothingButTheTruth says
Exactly! Anyone can create a fake account and publish something in that website in just 10 minutes so I am having a hard time believing all those accusations. I am much more inclined to say this is some former employee that Patch pissed off or some other virtual world throwing shade at SL.
trying to verify says
82 – a lot of this is really damning but can anyone verify the identity of the source? Googling Robert Bartos turns up nothing for any journalist and his image isn’t getting any reverse search matches.
Common Sence says
I could not, well not directly. If you search his name you find a few Linkedin hits and a couple could be the right one. But if they are, they are IT professionals that may have conflict of interest when reporting.
This needs to also be verifiable through another media form. NWN may be good but I prefer NYT or a similar outlet.
a random thought says
LL has a history of using their legal team to crack down on dissent and people speaking openly about issues in the game for years. Even internally it has been the case, as the article clearly states. It’s not uncommon for whistle-blowers/journalists to write it under an alter ego to ensure they don’t get a lawsuit on their hand or a CaD letter trough their inbox.
This is not as uncommon as you think, and sadly a daily ordeal in many large companies.
If this was a troll piece, someone went trough an awful lot of effort to string it all together coherently, which is not something a troll would do. Many of these discoveries have been rumoured or heard of before, but now there’s an awful lot of coincidences that seem to line up with how things has been run.
It’s definitely not the smoking gun, but it’s certainly the next best thing, the tracks and signs of it, and they all lead to a department and a specific group of people.
#NothingButTheTruth says
No trolling, more of a payback of some former employee that did not take his termination lightly. Takes literally 10min to create an account in that webpage and post an article nobody will verify what you wrote.
RocksoCocaine says
108- Yall geriatric Ken and Karens have been complaining about Kawaii, Creepy Cute Aesthetics since the start of VS. First it was about The Sugar Garden mesh heads, Catwa, Snow Rabbit, etc. Then the mesh bodies and heights like Slink Hourglass, Phat Azz, and Luckless, Now you all complain about Ebody Reborn, INITHIUM, Lelutka Prim, Gaia, and Ceylon. No matter how much you complain. They aren’t going to change their avatar. And Kawaii and Creepy Cute aren’t going anywhere. Just Cope. I’m gonna laugh when they bring Gyaru and Hime Gyaru back to SL. I can just see the shit posting on Reddit from that.
RocksoCocaine says
99 – They aren’t going to stop doing it just so you know. And you forget Glam Affair also does AI-edited ADs too. AI is the new thing in SL. Just Cope.
108- Do you think they care what you say? No, because there will always be dudes who love the way they look. Plus, you don’t know what Sir-Mix-A-lot ( And you just showed your age in that post.) wants, you aren’t him. So please, shut the fuck up already. This has been every post every Sunday since the start of VS and the release of Ebody, Ebody Reborn, Luck Inc. Phat Azz, Womeh, INITHIUM, Slink Hourglass, Luckless, etc. The same old whiney retarded ass bitches complaining about grown women with Japanese anime, kawaii, and creepy cute aesthetics. It’s never gonna end, they are gonna keep doing it as long as there are guys in SL who like it. Get over it already, just cope. I’m kinda glad VS is closing. No more of you idiots whining 24/7 about Japanese anime, kawaii, and creepy cute aesthetics. No more crying about Phat Azz bitches who don’t give a fuck. Hopefully, you old geriatric Kens/Karens who still reminisce on the 1980’s (mom jeans) Crystal Light and weight watchers skinny bitches go on Reddit and shit post your grievances there. Hopefully this video will help you cope.
bffr says
for somebody telling others to cope so frequently, you sure do love typing paragraphs
Sadly Not Surprised says
#82: That probably explains why despite extremely blatant evidence and TOS breaks I’ve seen many ageplayers continue with no trouble. No bans or anything. There’s a LOT of overt ones out there, more than you’d expect. A lot of them don’t even try to hide it.
Also might explain why a lot of big furry sims seem to be fine with or even defend ageplayers & zoos. All the big furry sandboxes and RP sims often even go out of their way to defend their ageplayer or zoophile users or even have them on staff.
Tired of Idiots says
You seem to have an awful lot of knowledge on the subject. Remarkable really.
Justpassingthrough says
#83. They might be creepy looking but the new ones are animesh and only 3500L not $85.
SL Mama says
If you buy an aged up one, adopt, etc they’re much more. There’s a few skin creators out there for the animesh that actually make them look really cute close to as cute as Zooby
Justpassingthrough says
So you’re buying from another resident and not the store? Like.over priced gachas? Who would bother doing that?
Tamara says
No. The creators like take back “abandoned” ones or create them from scratch and come up with these absolutely bonkers backstories about them being orphaned like:
“Adopt Charlie. Charlie is 5 years old and was found eating food from a dumpster and living on the streets. He needs a loving home. For the low price of $40,000 lindens.”
Some of the backstories are definitely against TOS and talk about violence against children. Like that these fake babies were abused and have bruises and a broken arm from being beaten. And then people feel bad for these imaginary kids and buy them for these marked up prices. It’s exploitative if you ask me.
justpassingthrough says
That back story stuff is nasty but who the hell would pay 40000L for a make believe baby? There’s a sucker born every minute in SL. There is a plain wooden box on the MP that is priced at 1M Lindens. People can ask whatever they want for an item. Paying a ridiculous price for one is on you not the person selling it.
Shelter your kids! says
55-56-76 & 100 – Who the hell looks an ad with a child and then thinks those are cocks or dildos penises etc?????? You fuckers have the most sick, distorted, deranged minds. Those are the ugliest and unrealistic looking cocks or dildos ever. Why? Because they’re FUCKING MITTENS and nothing more!! And a lot of the comments on that post were authored by serious ageplayers and pedos. We see y’all loud and clear!! Unbelieveable.
Mamadon't says
Welcome to the internet, where every phallic-shaped object is going to be pointed out.
Even if the creator doesn’t agree with the masses, the right move would have been to change the ad as she seen it wasn’t received well, and this whole mess could have been avoided for both creators. Anyone running a serious business should know that.
Bojangles says
Lame af. Don’t pretend you don’t see it at all.
Don't ask Just listen says
#21 I never usually comment on this site because I come to just read other people’s drama to get a break from my own but I feel like it’s necessary this time.
Why are we still worrying about Cedar Creek and the fucked up Haze family? Cedar Creek’s owner don’t care how many people she loses cause of the Haze family so leave them there. That way they don’t pollute the other RP communities with their bullshit. I am so tired of seeing this shit and no one does anything about it who owns Cedar. I haven’t been in Cedar in years. Thank God! Probably around 3 or 4 years now. Again thank God! But isn’t Carrot one of Patty’s closest friends? Yet she picks on her all of the time even when I lived there. She was always saying how Carrot wants Art and can’t have him because she is old AF. Isn’t Carrot like 10 yrs older than you Patty? Should you be throwing stones cause you look like you are close to 50 too. Nice friends you have there Carrot. You don’t need enemies when you have them as your closest friends. You poor poor soul. Rei, Furby and Art just to name a few are are all talked about often in their little posse. Yes ladies you have a mole in your friend group and it just might be a gent. Though you all back stab each other so it could be more than one too. You will never know because I will never tell who it is.
Patty haven’t you been like 38 years old for 3 or 4 years now? I could have sworn when I lived in Cedar that your profile said you were 38 and it still says it? You need to get your shit together girl. I just pray your kids don’t ever get the bullying that you give out in a virtual world. If only people really saw the real you without your doctored up pictures they would see you are ugly on the outside and inside. You and your flunky ass posse who live on food stamps or off of their parents. I can’t believe 40 year old’s still live with their Mom and can’t support themselves. You all need to get lives and grow up. You are all over 40 now. Time to move out of your Mom’s basements and into the real world then let’s see just how you can handle that.
Is Gina another one of Azure’s alts? I can’t keep up anymore. Anyone with Haze as the last name in Cedar is fucked 4 ways to Sunday in the head. All of them can’t spell for shit, act like whores and are ugly AF in SL and RL. If you don’t believe me then check out their profiles in world. Check the post out for their in world names and I am sure you will agree. You will all be like WTF are these old ass ugly ass girls doing cutting down others? Watch who you piss on ladies because karma is on her way for you and she is coming in hot. And it might come for you in a worse way than a virtual game. Tick Tock Tick Tock when will the bomb go off.
Reset says
You said a mouthful and I agree with everything except Gina is not one of Azure’s alts. Gina is an old friend of Patty’s. She is a terrible person and she’s too ugly in her first life to be making fun of anybody.
who is the bully now calling ppl ugly says
gigi you stay mad, we dont think of you, move on
sherlock says
thats not gigi, gigi been staying out of this drama same with ven and rikki
Don't ask Just listen says
Who said I am a Gigi? Why do you think I am a woman? Is women all that you Haze’s attack? Well all know better than that you POS.
SMH says
is that a threat? coming at me at a worse way then a virtual game?coming at me at real ? cause i swore a certain someone told patty the same thing some months back, she has not said nothing about you or thought of you, you got what you want, can u just be happy with that?
Mananumah says
Back in 2022 i was considering renting in Cedar Creek, then a review blog was featured by Linden Lab itself on their blog network page. https://www.3girlsinsl.co.uk/a-month-in-cedar-creek-a-review/ The end of that blog, plus the comments by some of Cedar Creeks own residents put me off. Never visited the place since then. Now I rent in New Haven, and its a nice, if sometimes slightly cliquey town.
Crim says
I’ve waited for this.
sherlock says
to whoever posted #72, grow up, move on and leave scarlett alone!
Tea Sipper says
What is fat, miserable Scarlett doing now that her pals Max and Jack are gone? Still has her kid who has a whore alt at New Haven?
Sweet Rose West / ChronicXRose says
From my understanding Scarlett dropped Max and Jack, don’t think they were her pals. Although I do think they gave her a bad name. From the little interaction I had with her after they left she was very into her relationship not really doing anything this posts suggests. She seems like a nice enough person. She’s not perfect I’m 100% sure on that but doesn’t mean she should be dragged.
sherlock says
exactly rose ty
Tired of Idiots says
Someone like you should stay off this or at least stay anonymous. Don’t be crying on FB when people are mean to you or kick you out of their circles. You’re a glutton for punishment. You’re your own worst enemy.
Sweet Rose West / ChronicXRose says
Sweetie there’s no crying on my fb thanks though. Clearly you aren’t on my fb or know me well enough to know anything about my fb. The only times I’ve ever come on here I’ve always used my name. Also I’ve legit never been kicked out of a circle lol I leave circles sure because if I have a falling out with someone it’s better to leave and let people move on than be in the middle with them. I will say thank you for your concern though.
Scarlett waverley is a whore says
You mean after Scarlett was shoved up Max ass when she was in the detective dept in NH! Seriously there were always on call in discord. She uses people’s, end of story on that one. She has a kid Sadie, who gets mad that people don’t talk to her. And makes alt after alt after she leaves a dept. then Scarlett went after jacks job as events manager. Then after Eliza’s job as CJ and finally got it after Harlowe begged for her.
Sweet Rose West / ChronicXRose says
Hun Scarlett and jack were sisters at one point. I didn’t say Scarlett was perfect in fact I said I know 100% she isn’t. I won’t talk on Sadie but I’ve had my interactions there too. Still doesn’t mean she’s a whore or should be dragged on here. Saying someone is cheating on their spouse and trying to ruin their relationships through vs is wrong without proof. I spoke of what I know of her which is not much.
Bob's Burgerboy says
Interactions with Sadie? From what I remember of your time in New Haven, you spoke to her once and then called her a bully for standing up for Scarlett. You sure we can trust your words FOR Scarlett when you’ve acted that way in the past?
Sweet Rose West / ChronicXRose says
I didn’t say they were negative interactions I said interactions but let’s be clear Sadie was attacking someone else and I defended that person. Legit all the person wanted to know was when the event was being planned for. Nothing to defend. Sadie has not interacted much since then but I wasn’t talking shit I said I wouldn’t talk on Sadie but since you’re likely her how about we be upfront about what happened. 😀
Bob's Burgerboy says
Me Sadie? I’m a male and have never played a kid avatar. But I mean you can claim whatever you wish. Without proof it just sounds like you’re trying to drum up some clout for yourself.
Sweet Rose West / ChronicXRose says
if you’d like more details I’d happily explain
Bob's Burgerboy says
I mean you could just explain instead of being cagey.
sherlock says
dude fuck off and leave scarlett alone, you clearly have some mental issues to deal with so close your browser and seek help.
Bob's Burgerboy says
Do you have proof Sadie gets mad that people don’t talk to her? Spill it man. Also are you saying Scarlett makes alt after alt or that Sadie does? Because if so let’s see some proof. Otherwise you and the “Tea Sipper” just sound like drama starters with no lives.
Bob's Burgerboy says
Do you have proof that Scarlett’s kid has a whore alt? If so, let’s spill that Tea “Tea Sipper”
need coffee now says
39) everyone is as sick of fynn as they are posts about him. hes a POS. we get it. can we move on please?
Tired of Idiots says
He’s phony but not a POS. That phrase is incredibly overused. One more week and it’ll finally end for everyone.
kibbles n bits says
POS is not over used on him. He’s super toxic. If you ever met him chances are he’s talked shit behind your back. He does it to everyone. Judgy McJudgerson but with nothing to back it up. Just askk the multitude of peeps that have left him because of what he does.
Captain Obvious says
True story. There is a reason people were once really popular and then aren’t. This passive aggressive nobody truly is remarkable at playing victim and posting on FB like some pius martyr on his pedestal. We laugh because literally EVERYTHING he posts is about himself. This shit can’t write itself.
downwithunderboob says
#3: Honey, you DO realize that at least 50% of Kupra and the more outrageous Reborn wearers are men, right? They wear torpedo tits and watermelon arses because they like what they see, just like males in Warcraft sometimes have female toons because they’d rather look at T&A while they play.
RocksoCocaine says
Yup. Literally had a friend who wanted to make a female avatar in Second Life that looked like one of those women. Knew a Spanish guy who had an alt account that looked like one of those chicks. Matter of fact his alt account is literally his fake SL g/f.
downwithunderboob says
#46: (I went back in FB history to verify this was a true copy of her post) As someone who loves Just Because’s clothing, I can understand her choosing to not do free updates for new bodies (and her FB post was BEFORE Lara X was released), but she crossed a line calling other designers who DO provide free body updates “morons.” So Harry Hyx at Ison is a moron?
She could have left everything in that post besides that one stupid paragraph, and I would have supported her, but Annie, you screwed the pooch insulting other designers who are willing to put in the work to offer free updates. They are not morons. Annie owes a lot of designers an apology. Total lack of class, GF. You just lost a customer (and hopefully a few more).
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Notyourfriend says
Bitch please … she is in the right why would we work for free all stores that give free Updates are destroying the Economy. CREATORS KNOW YOUR WORTH AND ADD TAX ON IT! Papcito ando!
Okay, but... says
#14 – Just a suggestion. Someone is mad enough to post IM logs on SL Secrets, but if there’s any truth to this, instead of posting it here, maybe take it to the people in charge? If you’re going to post it like you’re revealing the truth, then stand behind that truth and do something about it that will actually get something done. Because if she really did say something like this and it can be proven, I’d wager a guess that something will be done about it. You know when nothing can be done? When someone hides behind screenshots on here. That makes you almost as vile as her if what she has said is true. Whoever you are, you’ve been posting these for weeks, and you know who isn’t seeing this stuff and still has no proof? The people that need to see it most. You won’t be able to hide behind this site for much longer, so if you want to see something truly done about this and any of it that you have posted is true – especially this – then take it to the right people. Sh*t or get off the pot.
SirChaos says
It has been given over. Packets of proof and info have been given over to those in charge. They are swimming in proof. Years of it. The posting here is so the rest of the community knows too. BS like this should not be hidden, especially by a community that believes in honesty and consent. Everyone should know who she really is under that fake façade, so they can deal with her with full knowledge and consent.
Okay, but... says
Is that you, “chew”bacca? Great job on the “screenshot.”
SirChaos says
No. Only the person on the other end of that conversation. The original picture: https://gyazo.com/ec9ca8ea571ba4177ba64a3d0f9270da
Okay then... says
Still not Arella. Still not impressed “chew”bacca. One day you’ll get it.
Alpha Clash says
You think Chew has time to play around in this overused sandbox? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your ego is so fragile, you have to write as a fake outsider about the secret that skewers you. Then you had to go whine to your other pet “dominant” about a simple titler at the bar. If Laz really is your cuck, you should have asked him to ban another dominant who happens to be better than you instead. You really need a better hobby than attempting character assassination with a Nerf gun.
PS: If this is actually RB, and the Star Wars reference makes that possible, you speak with the voice of your Mistress at times like this. It’s how D/s works, boy. Defend her, and you speak for her. So whether the Domme or the fake-Dom sub, these are the words of Arella. Especially since you’re more inept at writing than she is.
Alpha Clash says
Hey, look, you just proved I was right about you. Good job, dear. You’re starting to slip. Best leave while you have half an ounce of capacity to control the narrative around your departure. At this rate, you’ll let all your hate hang out at an event with a full sim and multiple people happy to make sure the Service Committee gets transcripts. I foresee it in 3 months, give or take. Unless RB turns on you. He’s done it to other people. You’re not special. Just another woman who’s simply not yet been a target of his abusiveness.
Alpha Clash says
Arella, you’re as obvious as the asterisk on “shit.” Whine louder. Someone’s getting off on it, and I think it’s you.
Just Me says
#11 – Just because one spell an offensive word wrong or use symbols to replace a letter in that offensive word – that doesn’t make that word any less offensive. It is still offensive, absolutely wrong and shows whomever created the VS that they are an asshole.
As for the comments, I am a blogger and I appreciate when designers notice our work and leave comments. I also know that many designers (and players of SL) do not speak English first and thus their comments might not be in perfect English.
Finally, many designers will use the same exact comments on all the flickrs they comment on. This isn’t laziness, this shows that they go through all the photos they are tagged in and took the time to look at them. To all the designers that do this – as a blogger I just want to say ‘Thank you!’
All Purpose says
Creators are getting lazy day-by-day
Just Me says
That’s been happening since the beginning of mesh. No skills needed to make clothes. Just buy pre-made mesh, add RGB codes and setup a store.
Reset says
110. Not going to lie. I had to do a double take
Athena Mariposa says
Anyone else considering a massive tea spill for the final week? Oh, the stories I could tell.
Tea Sipper says
Do tell!
Blaise Glendevon says
I hope the person in #9 stubs his pinky toe every time he takes his shoes off. Ever. Forever.
Sanguine Suzy says
#6 Again huh?
And someone who already has a partner.. again.
We all know how “poly Nyxx” is so “good” about playing with others.
I almost want to warn this poor new victim.
But apparently they are using him as the victim’s pick mentions being showered in gifts for weeks now.
Get that bag sis IG Lmao
Jilted Highjinx says
Yea Nyxx is great for that lol.
Oop says
“Love bombing is a manipulative tactic often used by people with narcissistic personality disorder to gain control in a relationship. Friends, family, or romantic partners can love bomb you by showering you with gifts, being overly complimentary, or constantly giving you attention.”
I hope their new victim quickly comes to light and is able to escape their narcissist ways before Nyxx hurts another innocent person.
Snownyte says
They might’ve been taking notes, lol.
Ah well, Nyxx knows he’s in a stage of his life where the older he’s getting, the well of good potential matches are drying up for him. So he’s going to keep fishing and fishing no matter what it takes.
Must be tiring to keep ‘giving your all’ in each of these relationships, eh? I’ve not been in a relationship for over a year now and a couple months and I know I could only give half of my best if I tried for someone now, lol.
Scarlett waverley is a whore says
#72
I’m dying with laughter. Y’all do realize that Scarlett waverley is the same woman who stole thousands of lindens from fox hollow. She cried and bitched her way into Chief Justice position in New Haven. Even sold out her own sisters and best friends to get into that position. Never mind she was fucking about 7 men before she got with Derek and while she got with him.
I wouldn’t be shocked if she is charging people lindens to pay off their “fines”. Maybe the men have to pay her with the fact she likes to lay on her back. The list goes on and on, she is controlling and if something doesn’t go her way, the bish cries about it to everyone. She goes behind other women’s back and tries to steal their men. She will immediately go on a call with them and sweet talk them as they are with others. Everyone says Harlowe is a slut, nah it’s scarlet waverly. She is still messing with all of her exes. And has a list of men as back ups. Maybe darling you should worry more about your real life and not so much on the men on SL!
Athena Mariposa says
#92 …. Pedro! This is so true. 👍
Fuck Them says
True
Only One Life says
Just a friendly reminder that while you’re bickering over the cost of virtual, non-tangible goods and online relationship drama, you’re also pumping money into the pockets of LL Operations, further fueling their ability to use Second Life as a safety net for child pornography and ageplay.
Do yourself a solid. Read the article linked in 82. Then, go read 44 again. Second Life is not for the sane, nor for the good. Take your money elsewhere and invest in a better life for yourself: the first and only one.
Blaise Glendevon says
I guess we’re taking this dying blog’s last days to really swing for the fences in unverified, unsubstantiated rumors against Lindens now?
Only One Life says
Did you read the article? Also, what’s the point of defending them?
sherlock says
UNINSTALL your viewer of choice and leave SL alone if you dont like the accusation of patch.
I personally find it unbelievable like most posts on this site. All lies to cause drama.
Only One Life says
I uninstalled two years ago. I come here on occasion to remind myself of why I did, and encourage others to seek a better future for themselves. Couldn’t miss the fireworks at the end.
Call it patronizing all you want. I wasted too many years on frivolous spending and emotional investments that leave you as empty as when you started. I want better lives for people. That’s it, take it or leave it.
I also don’t think most people would fund the corruption and degeneracy that occurs in the offices of LL if they were aware of it.
#NothingButTheTruth says
Medium.com is not a news page, anyone can create a profile that nobody will verify and post something. Just try it out 😉
Gustav says
You don’t get it at all. It is NOT important where it was shared by whom. The fact is that we ALL KNOW ITS HAPPENING AND HAPPENED and now its in the open. Get it?
someoneiusedtoknow says
#44. depending on the individual. I always had a hard time saying no, to anyone in real life. and i used sl to teach myself from saying no, to online people, now i can say no and not feel bad about ‘No, not this time”
someoneiusedtoknow says
#27 being a dj is not a joke. maybe you’re at the wrong club. try the small clubs, that interacts with you and see how they do stuff. I know a Dj that actually tries to find music that we haven’t heard and mixes it in with stuff that we have heard on tiktok, radio..etc. I am not saying its the hardest job, but its better then sitting with my thumb up the ass, judging a whole group of people, because you went to shitty clubs.
sherlock says
i use to dj, its hard work mixing music together in Mixxx or Virtual DJ with a controller.
HOWEVER yes sadly some dj’s dont really know how to dj like a pro. they just throw up tracks and move the fader or let Sam do all the work.
SL DJ says
Anyone that cops out and uses SAM broadcaster is not a DJ. They’re a jukebox. Its 2024, find ANYTHING better.
Furthermore, If the poster of 27. ever goes to another club in SL again then they’re a hypocrite. Thank U, next.
someoneiusedtoknow says
i do consider myself a “radio DJ” like alice cooper, with the az radio station.And if you ask me, what kind of DJ i am in the platform. i would tell you “I am more of a radio dj, then those that can mix better then I can. I did mix a few songs, but, i don’t think i can be like the rest of the Djs’ in sl, that does it”
But, i try to find tunes, that people never heard before, mixed with tunes, that people HAVE heard before. I want to expand peoples music library.
Gustav says
The word DJ means Disc Jockey. = someone on a radio-station or similar playing music to the Public. Please explain YOUR version of a DJ.
Nico, Leggs and AFI suck says
You must be referring to the shitty DJs at Hotwife Hotel. I heard someone say they just let the best DJ go there so they could keep Leggs Chia AFI and Amy around boring us to death. But. It’s not a dance club and the owner doesnt care about music. The best DJs know their shit and should make you feel like dancing while being on sim and that list of DJs who can do that is a small list for sure.
lol says
Found the butthurt DJ. Yeah I’m sure it’s hard pushing a button every 3 minutes.
someoneiusedtoknow says
Oh, sure, because text is just overflowing with feelings and emotions. Like, seriously, who needs facial expressions and tone of voice when you have plain old text? It’s practically a rollercoaster of emotions
someoneiusedtoknow says
#11. thats why i go to slack girl, she seems to be a non-bot
None Ya says
She’s not a bot, she’s fucking Italian. English isn’t her first language.. FFS… people are so fucking stupid on here!
sadasd says
She’s Brazillian, not Italian 😂😂😂😂😂
someoneiusedtoknow says
thats fine too. she can be a grey alien for all i care. hell a reptile alien. But, she does good work, she talks to her customer base and i am about to ask her to put back the old style makeup she created, when mesh heads first came out. i Loved those lipsticks.
someoneiusedtoknow says
Oh, wow, because clearly, the geographical origin of someone is the most crucial piece of information ever. I never mentioned a location because, you know, the universe might implode if we don’t discuss where someone hails from. Does it really matter where someone comes from? All I said was, “that’s why I go to…” the mystical land of ambiguity.
Concerned Citizen says
#82. Glad to see this finally to light. Hopeful something will be done about it. However, realistically they have dug their fingers deep into the pulse of the Lab and I bet it would ’cause too much trouble’, to quote Derrick Linden to deal with it unless this blows up, forcing the brass and investors to make changes. Patch Linden’s department has made some wild hot takes as well, it’s good to put the nepotism factor into context for these really questionable choices.
The sexualization of children is deplorable. Hard stop.
Edit
(The TinyURL in question: http://tinyurl.com/SLageplayproblem )
HOLY FUCK says
Shady nepotism is alive and well in Second Life. Patch Linden giving his real life husband a job. Patch Linden buying a very limited (only 20 available) Premium Plus lifetime account on his private avatar. Patch Linden is problematic.
imagine that says
You think that is bad check out a sim called boardroom its filled to the brim with pedophiles there. mage is another sim that supports that shit patch linden is into.
Be Less Stupid, Please says
No one goes to mage anymore.
The denizens of Boardroom while mentally disturbed draw the line at pedophile sympathizing, pedos get doxxed and ostracized there.
imagine that says
are you joking there are pedo sympathing cunts there right now (lawlypants2137 Resident) confirmed pedo
..ąɧ Ɩɛɛ ɬɧɛ ʂŋąƙɛ.. (Aliblemon Resident) pedo supporter
be less retarded,please
Be Less Stupid, Please says
Who socializes with them?
#NothingButTheTruth says
Why all this fuss about a post made in a website that literally anyone can create a fake profile and post there. I will believe it if I see it on reliable sources, before that happens I will just call it bs. It takes less than 10min to create a profile and write a short post in there lol so journalism my ass.
Raus! Raus! says
#82 just amazing. Just make this into an audio recording and play it at every venue in SL. Air drop this over SL! Also. Post this to the owners of LL!
someoneiusedtoknow says
my jaw dropped to. and yea, i am going to get the link and post it over on x. This, is not good, especially if they want to bring in new people.
Be Less Stupid, Please says
They don’t want to bring in new people.
They’ve been trying to close this game off their own select few to use as their own regression therapy platform and play out their weird fantasies.
Common Sence says
Comical that the one that posts in all weeks says the game is regression therapy platform. Are you including yourself in this? Because in most topics you know half of the information or all, which means you login. LOL.
someoneiusedtoknow says
they are making a mobile ap. Speedlight did it, so obviously, it’s the secret recipe for bringing in the masses. Because who wouldn’t be drawn in by the magic of mobile apps? It’s like summoning people from the digital realm straight into your hands. Brilliant!
Common Sence says
X, the fascist website with a lunatic running it? That will go well.
Blaise Glendevon says
What? A homophobic hate campaign pointed at an out gay man on the Linden team? How could anyone imagine that outcome from posting on Elon’s Expensive Temper Tantrum?
someoneiusedtoknow says
you read the page. it wasn’t about homosexuality. keep reading.
Mrs Slocoe says
Nope was nothing written that was anti-homosexual. Its how you read it !
Now its my turn…
Coming from someone inferring Elon’s platform is a closed board for anti- homosexual speech, claiming the article was based on an anti-homosexual attack and yet, there you are openly endorsing a blanket approach for actually LABELLING and DISCRIMINATING others off the back of what is clearly bias led propaganda is abominable!
Are you even Gay?
Cause my God, if you are and coming with sectioned ideals and bigotry on other people; regardless what they are appear to look like (see my post to you below) makes me vomit. Shame on you!
I don’t much like what I am reading either but I have the sense to understand that you don’t judge a pile of people, off the back of a couple of bad eggs.
It’s like stating that two black people rob a store, thus now all black people are looting criminals.
If you think that way, then sorry… I have a big FUCK YOU for you !!
Else its an already claimed bias. We seen enough bad things in history with people who thought like that, you may need to give yourself a morality check.
You cannot claim bias when you have bias yourself!! It’s contradictive.
someoneiusedtoknow says
where else would LL see this? Especially when you’ve become the Sherlock Holmes of page reading. I mean, who needs clues when you’ve got a webpage in front of you, right? did you know that page existed? Especially about. well, you read it..
The intrigue is real.
Common Sence says
While it may all be real, the article drags on into both the business of how Linden labs acquired Casper.
You do realize Finance and Legal and the Corporate Board authorize purchases right? IT doesn’t have complete sign off in every decision they make.
In addition, when they started interviewing without really sourcing names the staff members that were former employees. You realize most of us that have worked with IT have issues with most of our previous employers right?
Common Sence says
Companies have scrubbers for news articles mate. Tell me you are young, without telling me you are young.
Only One Life says
Philip Rosedale will bury it so fast. Why do you think they terminated Pearlman in 2019? It wasn’t because they didn’t believe her, I’ll reassure you of that.
Raus! Raus! says
yeah but LL was bought by Waterfield Group in 2021. I reckon they’d be interested.
Common Sence says
They are, but with that in mind I want to caution that Americans like to throw the baby with the water. So the company may find a way of removing Adult content altogether if they see more incentive in introducing kids with credit cards (parental ones) that can basically just press and go.
Which is a financial kiss of death to the company. But companies assume kids have no control and parents will allow them to spend endlessly. It’s why if I had kids (which I doubt as a geriatric pregnancy victim) I’d block them from getting Tablets.
Common Sence says
All it has to do is go to the legal department. While the company will remain silent Patch and the group will slowly be retired within this current year.
Preach it! says
#73 OMG preach.
Drama for sure. They all will stab you in the back miserable twats for sure. Will lie to people to get their way and screw someone over.
Sweet J is the worst whiner ever. What about meeeeee. It’s always about her. Nothing she does is her fault. So glad I refuse to host for her. The blatant lies that come out of her mouth.
PoshPink says
Right Sweet J is always boo hooing seeking a pity party.
Youwishyouwereme says
This is actually quite funny!!! I can guarantee you don’t know anyone on that list personally. That’s the problem with losers on second life, like yourself, you hear one side of a story and go from there!! You come on virtual secrets to jump on the trash train because you have no lives! Calling all of them ho’s is comical! I never see them with different men ever, they have more class than that, but i’m sure we can’t say the same thing about you!! lol Nor do they lie to get their way! smh!!! From what I’m told some chic named chardy is angry and attacking JD, mostly, because her daughter is dating chardy’s ex and she is angry and jealous over it! Ummm seriously? lol You can’t make this high school bullshit up, I swear! As far as sweet j, I know her, but not on a personal level, but from what I know most of the bullshit is fabricated and not true, but again jump on that trash train. What does that actually say about you? lol Try growing up and getting a life and get offline once in awhile, might help you with your mental issues. Find out facts before you react!! Oh wait you can’t do that with a simple mind!
Preach it! says
You do realize I did not call anyone a ho, but Deb does seem to scare off her men fast with that attitude of hers. She seems to run through them. It’s not just their fault all the time lol.
You don’t know sweet j, so that says you are only hearing the Deb, JD, Sweet J side of the train…lol if you only knew from experience, plus as an adult Side A Side B then there is the truth.
I can assure you Sweet J is always a Sweet J side only and lobbies hard for it once you wake up to it…..
No one gives a fuck who’s kid is dating who’s. JD will lie for any one of those bitches to cover for them. She lied to a few of my friends to paint someone I know in a bad light once and that person gyazo the whole convo luckily to prove JD was a lying piece of crap. That’s what they do. Friends having backs is one thing. Lying to destroy others friendships to cover each other or get even is messed up beyond words.
Oh and I was at Blue the day that guy Aser tipped Sweet J host to match her jar, they were no longer friends. He never said a word.
Story I got from my friend who worked there was she threw a fucking fit and got him banned or she would quit spinning if not. He in returned tipped the host even bigger amounts to piss her off as payback according to my friend. She then turned it into he was intimidating her when she said she would split it because sweet j was complaining and crying be so emo over it. So he asked her not to she said no so Aser said he would find another way.
I even spoke to Aser once he has it all gyazo and he has had Sweet J blocked for months. JD and Sweet even went and got in peoples boxes and got them involved in saying he stalked sweet everywhere she went and well I highly doubt that and if so she should prove that. It’s all crap just like them.
Even my mod friend at blue said Aaron knew sweet was full of it. But could not afford to lose a DJ
GTFO
Youwishyouwereme says
LMFAO -You do realize you sound like a ass right now? I know the entire story about that loser Aser. Mind you most of the grid hates him, btw. A desperate idiot trying to get with every woman possible and once they reject him, game on! As far as the tipping bullshit, I got the whole run down on that. There you go again hearing one side of a story and running to the trash train. Aser didn’t like that sweet J sided with her sister at the time, because aser hit on such girl and got rejected and attacked this girl under his alt Hadey, which he changed the name totally so no one can find that name anymore! lmfao.. Imagine paying all the money to change your alts name in SL so you can’t be found anymore? Can someone say LOSER? He then got bent out of shape when he was called out for being hadey, by sweet J while she was vaca and not even in the game! Pathetic huh? Yea I would say so! Then he turns around and threatens sweet J under the same exact name he attacked her sister with!!! He was SL mad when he was banned from the club so he called her every name in the book and threatened to make her life miserable under the same alt! BAHAHAHA You can’t make this shit up. I think someone needs a life! She just wanted him to leave her alone and he kept coming to her sets to gas light her and piss her off. Take it as you want, but you look incredibly ignorant right now because she even told me it was never about the lindens. She didn’t want his dirty lindens. It was about him staying away from her sets and not gas lighting her, so go get your facts straight. A year and half later and he is still doing his stupid shit! Why would someone keep going to a DJ’s set, they didn’t like? That’s easy to answer, he has no life and thinks that he has all this power with his money! Meanwhile making himself look insanely stupid! We all laugh at him behind his back, even the ones who he thinks are his friends!!! Sticking up for aser shows who you are, you are probably him. He comes on here all time sticking up for himself under fake names trying to convince people he has friends. lmfao I’ll have to tell sweet about aaron, she thought that was her friend. This is quite entertaining though. Again get your facts straight and stop listening to a loser / liar who has nothing better to do than gas light people he dislikes.
Aser says
LMFAO
So it’s ok you got that side of the story. So here it goes.
Sweet J is an arrogant all about me person. She whines and cries that and does no wrong I heard it all the god damn time from her.
Sweet has been blocked and defended for a long ass time I went to Blue only because I got off early and my closest friend was there with her guy. No clue that tool was spinning.
Her being the DJ anywhere DOES NOT mean I have to not go anywhere I do not listen to her. I have gone to chat with others and usually am semi afk for those who really know me. lol
Can you point out a rule I have to tip anyone anywhere I have not tipped DJ or hosts, or a host more than a DJ or vice versa because I know them.
My alts haven’t changed names lmao you don’t even know their names properly keep going. I was at work when the 7th house shit went down it shows you how much you and she knows lol.
It’s not about the lindens but she sure did get in peoples boxes all emo that day about me even out Autumn box to match hers. I got off work early only reason I showed up that Sunday normally I would have never even been home haha.
Oh Aser made amends with you? He never apologized to me? Why didn’t he apologize to me? He said that to my friend at sound station months before she was pissed I didn’t grovel to her …lol not ever gonna happen…faded was full of shit lol you only have sweets sniffle she was an arrogant bitch and read her profile sometime or talk to her….i warned sweet, yep I had someone I know log on and get in faded box. I text sweet did not know she was on vacation lol she don’t answer to me moron… oh ask her why faded is no longer in her family and what not gee I wonder….
Ask sweet and autumn about the intimidation thing, I got gyazos of one of them denying it ever happened and the conversations….someone is a liar. 🙂 it’s not me.
BTW I am sure you look lovely today…like your opinion means anything rumors are that rumors and exaggerations lol never been perfect I have made my mistakes but I can back up a lot.
Stop defending, no wonder Garett was fucking nat and refused to say anything and was fucking my ex Steph as well
Oh and Aiden and the west family. That I’m sure was not Sweets fault in any way either too right…nothing is sweets fault ever….want some cheese for that whine?
Youwishyouwereme says
I saw all the log chats via gyazo! Only reason I got involved is because you continue to pull your bullshit and ASER can do no wrong! You need help for your mental problems just saying. You sure are a huge liar.. I’m just looked at the gyazo’s … sorry it was Haydee! Now you are denying that’s your alt? You attacked sweet on that name, I see it in front me! Bottom line is this, your facts are stupid, garret is insignificant and I asked sweet about aiden and they are friends! I know what initially went down with that, but everything was worked out between them. That’s what grown adults DO! Take notes Aser! I don’t know the details on what went down with the reconciliation, I only know that they are amicable and good! Doesn’t really matter why. So you see, you try to continue to jump on that trash train and you don’t have all the correct information!!! SMH Aser? What are you going to do when this platform is gone in a couple of weeks? Why continue to show up at her sets? I honestly don’t know you, I know of you because so many people have told me horror stories, but I try not to judge based on that, but I see gyazo’s of all the stuff you are saying above, then I tend to form my own opinion and yea my opinion probably doesn’t matter, but isn’t it time to grow up already? i know you aren’t a young person! There comes a time where you have to pick and choose your battles and gas lighting and trying to bring someone down sure is a shitty way to live! Just saying! You do you I guess, but in the end, you look utterly stupid! Just saying! So keep carrying on with your bullshit, because i don’t see a need to say anything further! Take care!
Aser says
Let me see if I can make this easier for you to understand.
I do not know where that person DJ’s or when. If I get invited somewhere and there are times I do and I do not go into these clubs often anymore I do have other things I do in rl and sl, I go to hang with them.
I do have that person blocked and de-rendered even if said person happens to be ANYWHERE it does NOT mean I or HER have to fucking leave anywhere does that make sense to you?
I do not again have to tip anyone lol she is the one who started crying the first time I tipped autumn. 3 people were in my box. Sweet is upset and crying you tipped the host she is asking you to stop or she is gonna quit DJ’ing, lol
She stayed over and hour after her set while I talked to my friend talking to Carrie before I got banned. lol she worked it hard it was vindictive and spiteful.
I had never been to that set because again I got if my REAL job early once. lol
Can you tell me where tipping is a rule this whole dirty linden thing is a joke 3 people were all Sweet is emo and crying you tipped the host.
Get the fuck out.
Yes after that it was because she went out of her way to get me banned. That was spite not because I come to all her sets on purpose because that is simply false.
InTheKnow says
#9 It’s good when people wear things like that, you know right up front you’re dealing with a moron you should avoid vs investing any time in them.
Just Me says
Oh it gets waaaaaaaayyyyyy better. I am the type of person who looks up some of the more interesting people who have been posted on VS. This one is a whack job extrodinaire (and it has a RL photo in the first life). Just some info on this ‘God-Loving’ Idiot I will refer to ‘IT’ (because it is not worthy of a he/his/him pronoun!)
Too good for you says
#85 Seraphim about SeraPride PPL NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH! Every year asking creators for donation, when THEY DO NOT DONATE THEMSELVES ANYTHING! Then having the guts to brag how much THEY Donated??? We all see those money came from the creators not you!!!!! We all are mad you use our money to lie and present as YOUR DONATIONS to the community!!! Get yourself together lying biches you think we are dumb?! Biggest scammers around!!!
Truthteller says
You are seriously an idiot. The owners of Seraphim (both of them) go through so many hoops to make sure they are donating to credible organizations. Can you read text? Only one person in there is bragging about doing anything, and it isn’t Seraphim. Dumb fucks, seriously. The fact that Danny Lee is talking about anyone else bullying is one of the most ridiculous things that have ever been seen on SL secrets. The dude has been on here 5 million times, doesn’t pay his staff, scammed half of SL and made most of his employees leave SL20 from being treated like crap.
None Ya says
#8 – Maybe you should check your head size because I’ve NEVER had ANY issues with her hair fitting. It’s one of my favorites and I’ve been buying her hair more than Stealthic and Magika lately. Before you decide to make a post trashing someone’s work because it doesn’t fit your fat head, maybe you should take a look at your avatar first.. Sounds more like user error than the creator.
Great job Nova!!! Keep up the great work, I love your hair!!! ♥
I Love Underboob says
The first thing I thought when I saw #8 was – “Oh good, it’s not just me.”
I loved Little Bones and I have a few Nova hairs, but the issue with the rigging is the reason I haven’t purchased more hairs. OP is only speaking the truth.
Had to do a bunch of adjustments to keep my scalp from peeking through the Nova hairs – and it was honestly beyond just minor tweaks.
Good for you that you don’t have an issue – but the secret is not trashing the product. It’s constructive criticism.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
How can you guys stand the dead end looking mess? The textures get steadily worse the further down you go from the scalp; who chooses hair that looks fried by processing on purpose? You’ve got to be blind to pay for that shit.
Imaginary Fairy says
From everyone I know and that is a lot of people, we all have issues with it fitting and her alphas. So be grateful you are the lucky ONE they fit. I guess it means you are special.
downwithunderboob says
I guess some people don’t realize that Nova is just a rebranding of Little Bones. LB has been around a LONG time. If someone needs to bitch about hair stores, why not go after someone who deserves it (alli and ali who have been using the same outdated textures for 10 years and have never advanced their skills at all).
TheDevil says
ali and ali is absolutely terrible
RocksoCocaine says
The problem is they make a one-size-fits-all- thing. But one size DOESN’T fit all because there is always loads of space in the front when it comes to wearing mesh hair with a Lelutka head. Most of Nova’s hair isn’t ” fitted” for lelutka head unless you squash the head or hide the baldness. It’s the same with Truth, Stealthic, Magika, and WINGS. And it’s no secret that WINGS and S-CLUB rip their hair from The Sims games. That’s why it’s hard for the hair to fit on lelutka head. Plus if you go to TSR ( The Sims Resource) website. You can see most of the hair they ripped from The Sims content creators.
lol what says
Excuse me….they rip their hair from the Sims? Lmfao are you stupid? they are former sims CC creators. Do some research before throwing a wild accusation like that
wat says
Yeah some people are stupid as hell.
That said I will accept that Wings and S-Club do need to work better on fitment, Lelutka is really hard to accommodate though since so many different heads and variation between skull shape between them even. The balance Wings and S-Club seem to strike often seems pretty bad especially in comparison to Truth, Stealthic and Kuni who do it very well. Doux can also be pretty bad with Lelutka fitment but is improving.
TheDevil says
it floats on me terribly, the top anyway, and it looks bad there, wich is why i stopped buying
Not a Fan says
102 – Isn’t Sugar’s team made up of former Seraphim staff who know how to treat people with respect and care, putting their customers’ needs before their egos? Refreshing, isn’t it?
Poppykaka & Lemongrass pussyfarts says
Sugar’s team is a bunch of mentally ill “girls” that need to be commited. Seriousy!
Honk says
I’ll take the queers over Zionist sub-humans that can’t even do their job
Truthteller says
That’s totally cool, go ahead! No one is stopping you. All the big designers recognize Seraphim is where their marketing should be. No one gives a damn about Sugar, especially with the new and amazingly convenient shopping hud. I’m pretty sure Seraphim isn’t missing them or you.
Truthteller says
Nope. Sugar’s team is made up of a bunch of Seraphim rejects that caused drama and stole an idea. But whatever. Also, if you know Poppy and her gay lover, there are nothing BUT egos.
Yeah says
Sometimes I wonder if I’m the only person that remembers how Seraphim got started.
hahaha, IKR!? says
73: You forgot some names!
There are many more!
90: OMG, RIGHT? That girl is extremely annoying.
Doesn’t she understand yet that nobody cares what she says?
She thinks she’s set up a circus to put on the performance of her life.
She has an ugly voice.
And in every sentence she speaks, you can’t find a trace of intelligence.
you wish says
You should definitely continue with the passive aggressiveness, showing your insecurity while advertising for her so more people come to see her! I’m sure she appreciates the notoriety.
WARREN AKA ZEN AKA HALF THE TOWN OF CEDAR CREEK says
YOU ARE A DISGUSTING PEDO WEIRDO, HE FUCKED CLARKE, ROSCO, A HORSE, AND A TEEN IN A HOT TUB, BEWARE OF WHO YOU TALK TO, IT CAN BE WARREN
Chester says
Why are you watching him fuck a horse and a teenager? Especially in what I would IMAGINE would be a private parcel.
NOTE: Not saying he isn’t wrong for doing it, or that he didn’t do it.
Bored Guy says
Slow down on the caps and stop projecting your fantasies.
Jilted Highjinx says
#6 Leave poor Nyxx alone! He’s just trying to find happiness!
just kidding he just can’t be alone. Nyxx can go fuck himself.
how dare says
#21 relax it was a joke, and you dont know nothing, carrot and ona been bulling the hazes for a good while now, everybody sees it in residents and discord, look where ona is now, BAN.
verinne is more gross than you realize says
105 – you all fail to ever point out the actual issues with her, not just her whining about allegedly being copied. Let’s go deep…. why has no one mentioned how racist she is and is proud to announce that she screams n*gger, with a hard “R” at people when gaming or is angry at people and thinks it’s cute. Or how she cyberstalked her underage male boyfriend for like 5 years before moving on. I won’t even shop at stores and events she’s a part of because surely they are also turning a blind eye to this person’s racism and behavior. Maybe you got better at hiding it, Meep/verinne… but I know you never changed.
Levi says
This is one of the biggest reaches I’ve ever seen. Maybe it is failed to be pointed out because it’s literally never happened, you’re saying it with your chest with absolutely nothing to back any of these claims up. Mad delusional vibes.
Verinne is more gross than you realize says
Happy to post screenshots from a few years back of her saying n*gger and telling people she says n*gger from back in her RP days and how she finds it funny. Anyone who knows her from years ago know about the young underage boy she obsessed and stalked too. Ask her yourself about “n*ggerfuck”
Levi says
If you have these supposed recipes then why have you just been sat on them for “a few years”? I dunno, seems sus.
verinne is more gross than you realize says
didn’t pay her any attention or thought for years. visited here today and recalled a few times I saw her name brought up in the past, never realized Meep/purrinne was Verinne. Seems like the perfect time now that I realized. It’s been ages. But, you should be more worried about sucking the ass of someone who thinks shouting “N*ggerfuck” in games is cute and funny. Next week you’ll see but will sadly still lick her racist, narc ass. There is a reason everyone abandoned her over the years.
Levi says
Haha You should be more worried of the lack of a back bone. Easy to pop shots behind a fake name. See you next week though. X
Verinne is more gross than you realize says
Sorry, Brandi won’t ever fuck you bud. She’s married. But it speaks volumes to the type of friends you keep and support, since you want to talk about having a backbone.
imagine that says
Imagine crying about someone making up a new word, “N*ggerfuck” sounds like a good word to describe most of the people at boardroom. They are “N*ggerfucks.”
sherlock says
59 to 63
ever thought that communities look alike because theres like very few good choices on the market for things. Kinda hard to NOT look like another community when there is so few choices out there for mesh. GenTek traffic lights are the only good ones on the market same with the PX roads.
Boundary, Cedarcreek, Woodland. All look alike because of the limited options.
sherlock says
forgot to add that its the layout that makes them all look different
Curious Onlooker says
Those pictures are saying something though. The layouts and placements in one town clearly match the other. Even color choices and decor are the same or similar. Are you also saying using the same greenery is limited too? I’m no landscaper or decorator but even I know there are plenty of options. If a non-involved person can see the similarities I bet your residents can too.
ToxicDaddyIssues says
Just because it’s the same homes and colors does not mean it’s the same lay out. As for landscaping low prim high quality is very limited. Either way, who fucking cares. It’s second life thus, nothing is original. So either move on or keep going but it’s still on deaf ears.
Sweet Rose West / ChronicXRose says
Right or considering woodland grove has a space needle, massive lake / waterway, airport, car track, and while some buildings may be the same the properties and sim in general is much different. New Haven is a beautifully designed community which is massive community. Woodland is a small personalized community. With an underground restaurant and both Adult and M rated sims. There are a lot of differences both incredibly beautiful places to live. The people trying to cause drama and issues are just that drama starters and creators.
Tea Sipper says
They both use the same shitty buildings since neither have originality. Why open a place just to use the same exact stuff as the last place? Thats how places look the same, so whats the point? People are so scared to do something different and unique.
john bob says
trying running a cyberpunk apocalypse sim, there’s almost nothing decent on the marketplace haha
Sweet Rose West / ChronicXRose says
Try looking at DRD and Nomad
Finally the end says
105- You are just malding because she wont let people who copy her avatar walk all over her anymore. You cry about her talking about her own work and life and how she handles things on Twitter/sl/Fb yet you make ANON ACCOUNTS TO STALK HER. You’re so backwards it is funny. At least when she talkes shit she does it on her main account and drops @’s, you hide on alt accounts and run away when your main does get called out.
meep / verinne / etc says
@finally the end : Thanks but you don’t need to waste any energy on this, who ever you are. Let them wallow in their own anon misery. If they have something to truly say, they obviously know my name.
See you for one more round, VS!
Also, creepy twitter stalking anon, the above comment isn’t me. Try again.
(each comment comes with its IP address that Kes can see)
Verinne is more gross than you realize says
Hey Verinne, you wanna tell everyone about “n*ggerfuck” yourself to get ahead of it or shall we wait for the screenshots next week?
meep / verinne / etc says
I truly cannot wait!
Don’t forget all the stuff about some underage person I stalked.
Lets have VS go out with a bang.
It’s not the first time I’ve got to read fanfiction about myself. It’s been a while!
Verinne is more gross than you realize says
lol, so that’s how you wanna play instead of owning up to the fact you used to shout “n*ggerfuck” in games back when you used awesome sauce. Enjoy the screenshots next week and getting cancelled. What ever happened to the boy you stalked and cried over who kept cheating on you anyway? lol.
Why are you so toxic? says
#11 Ever think they may not speak English as their first language?
TheOriginalSmh says
I like the part where the OP says “othere’s people pictures”.
TheDevil says
nobody cares, except the one that is stalking you
TheDevil says
soo obsessive