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Virtual-Secrets, Week 737

10/23/2022 · kesseret ·

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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.


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fuckkkkkk
2 years ago

this was so damn boring

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Working at the saltmine
2 years ago

#29 There are plenty of animated yet not hyperactive standing animations, not doing ads for anyone but you really have to try hard to not find any. I’m more amazed at 40+ yrd old boomers thinking standing animations flipping people off are cool or edgy… you’re not 16 anymore and that shit was always cringe bro, just stop.

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504
2 years ago

3. I got wind that the desperate and crappy person is Lucy Drake

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Half and half
Reply to  504
2 years ago

No surprise there. Who is the person “fraternizing” with her?

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bouncyfrog
2 years ago

I’m tired of seeing everyone with Reborn bodies. Not everyone has the same shape and I think the “slimmer” bodies deserve love too like Legacy, might not agree with the creator’s business practices but it is a nice body if you don’t want the pear shape and just more petite.

Last edited 2 years ago by bouncyfrog
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VSCHO
Reply to  bouncyfrog
2 years ago

Reborn can be slimmed down and maintain its curves. Legacy is deformed when you try to make it anything but skinny so idk.
Legacy has a lot of support but reborn is hitting a demographic of people who dont want to be twigs and like to look realistic and not model shaped.

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blah
Reply to  VSCHO
2 years ago

there is nothing realistic about the reborn shape. I am not a fan of Legacy themself various reasons but the body does adjust a whole shit load better than reborn. It can be realistic curvy and slim. There is also an average healthy middle ground size that is between triple wideload heart failure and twigs. Not even sure where the idea that only way can have curves is to be a whale ass.

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Chill Relax karen
Reply to  blah
2 years ago

Why are the Karen police so mad over the body. I thought Second-life was made for people to ware what they want and look the way they want to? Since when did that mean that people needed to police other people’s looks? If you do not like a body, then don’t buy it. It’s really that simple! If you want to be skinny, then stay the shape no one is trying to make you change.

Also, If I may say this are we forgetting that people have different shapes in second life. That not every woman is a “Skinny White Karen” who seems to have an issue with bodies that are made for people of color, or they are average sized not everyone is a size 0-4. This is not Forever 21 or Abercrombie & Fitch. The fact some people seem to have such an issue says a lot about you than the people wearing the bodies.

Also, what’s up with the woman on woman bashing? Assuming anyone who has e-body apparently has a whale ass. Reality all bodies can have thick thighs and bigger bums. That’s based off shape not the actual body.

I mean there are many more topics that actually could be talked about like, getting rid of pedos, abusers, people who actually use SL to harm people mentally, and those who literally use alts to get away from bans, Or Karens who want to police what people ware!

Moral is let people be themselves as long as they are not harming anyone then nothing’s wrong with it.

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  bouncyfrog
2 years ago

Legacy has massive creator support, more than Reborn really from everyone except mod creators, and TMP team’s attitude toward them is 100% to blame for that. I’m not sure what you’re whining about.

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troll-op troll
2 years ago

#50 The fact that they paid close attention to the change in logo makes me think it’s one of the two idiots mentioned in that post. Because they must be really uninteresting whores if they think clients or competitors are paying attention to logos. No real loss to the club, for sure.

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smh
Reply to  troll-op troll
2 years ago

maybe they had good reason to leave. like maybe the owner is the idiot with poor spending/management habits with a side of anger issues. seems pretty sus that you would jump to the conclusion of those who left the club being the “idiots”. hmmmmmm….

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Chey - Yes that Chey
Reply to  troll-op troll
2 years ago

I can say for 100% fact that we who left this club give zero fucks what happens with the club, we didn’t come to Secrets about this because we do not think about her, or her club at all. We left due to disagreements within Management chats, and other issues within the everyday operations of the club and the way we were treated and made to feel on an almost daily basis. Our stress levels were not worth it any longer and the constant dramatic “I’m going to just delete the club” comments all the time. That is no way to run a club or to talk to people who are helping you run your business.

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I know things.....
Reply to  troll-op troll
2 years ago

Guess we found the real owner? Pretty sure the two who left the club gives ZERO fucks about the club since they are both banned from the sim.

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Srsly
Reply to  troll-op troll
2 years ago

So we found the clubs owner I guess

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troll-op troll
Reply to  Srsly
2 years ago

you really think you did something with that. it’s just basic observation, shit head.

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Srsly
Reply to  troll-op troll
2 years ago

I ain’t got no reason to play in whatever this is. Just seems like u got a strong opinion.

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Slim
2 years ago

#57-58 I can’t stand the butt on it and no amount of tweaking makes it good. Sticking with Legacy for now.

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the fake redhead
2 years ago

#6: anybody who doesn’t see thru this is an idiot 🤣 girl I see you!

the rest: why is everybody angry about too many bodies? a year ago there weren’t enough options now it’s everybody mad cus they got what they wanted and now designers got to charge more.

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Youllneverknow
2 years ago

#50 I don’t know what’s dumber… Whatever you’re going on about that literally no one cares about, or the fact you have no idea how to spell “loses”. lol

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Subscribe4catpics
2 years ago

That whole Wrestling underbelly of SL is WILLLLLLLLLLLD apparently. Y’all need to chill, because nobody gives a shit about RL wrestling, yet alone SL’s

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Subscribe4catpics
2 years ago

#37 looks like it’s transformative enough to be protected by fair use. Making an item that’s obviously inspired by some art that already exists isn’t an issue at all. Dunno what you on about

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The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society
2 years ago

#51 I don’t think using a faceapp to get a smile makes you automatically a two faced Karen, but it DOES make you look like Stepford Wives when you have a pic with 5 girls all wearing the same creepy slasher smile that face app gives.

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  The Leeroy Jenkins Appreciation Society
2 years ago

YES. That’s the real problem- it puts the exact same smile on everyone’s face. It’s creepy as fuck.

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Maka
2 years ago

10) watching you upset because the truth coming out for 7 days straight was therapeutic. now you make a virtual secret to stay relevant.

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504
2 years ago

3. WE NEED MORE DETAILS HERE. If you mean the discord server that I think you do & if the popcorn is a HINT….….I was shocked myself.

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Bleachers Bruh
2 years ago

45-46 UFW literally be like

“Our wrestlers rapidly becoming predominantly females, having less and less clothing, and getting more screening of they wrestle our CEO in said outfits, has nothing to do with backstage banging.”

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lolwut
2 years ago

#50 – starbutts is owned by a man who catfishes and pretends to be a female. But wait, it gets worse, they have held several failed clubs where they trick men into having feelings for them so they toss over money to fund their failed projects. but wait it gets even more horrible… they claim to have been in SL since they were underage and were a successful mesh artist at the age of 16, LMFAO. In reality, it’s like a 50-year-old fat man who does shitty RL photography steals his client’s photos without permission, and uses them to catfish in sl.

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a human
Reply to  lolwut
2 years ago

Some of this I could believe….the man part idk b/c they talk on open mic a lot if you are referring to the same starbutts aka the escort club and not the weird coffee cafe place that is named the same?

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smh
Reply to  lolwut
2 years ago

LMFAO wow…. is this the escort club starbutts, or the coffee cafe place of the same name??

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Blaise Glendevon
Reply to  lolwut
2 years ago

That’s a pretty heavy accusation. I’m sure you have some kind of information to back that up, and you’d be willing to share it.

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Blaise Glendevon
2 years ago

If you are happy with your mesh body, be happy with your mesh body. I wouldn’t wear a Reborn if someone gave it to me – but when Belleza Classic gets more of a clothing back catalogue, I’ll squash that butt down with a deformer, hoist those boobs up with a deformer, and give it a good try.

But if you love a Reborn body, good for you!

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A store owner
2 years ago

#28 The reason why Designers do not put everything on Marketplace is, that we already pay enough for uploading Mesh, Textures and Ad pics, Texture Huds and so on, we pay for PS, and all the programs we are using, most, if not all pay for premium too, we pay for the sims/parcels and if we increase the cost for our Items that we put on mp we habe whining customers, yet LL is taking percentages of every sale we make, us Designers also need the Traffic in our stores, because apparently that’s how it works if somebody randomly types in search specific things they are looking for, the high traffic stores come up first, unless you pay another amount to be at a side bar and the top. If we all put our stuff on MP why even bothering to have inworld stores ? I mean you are already sitting at home, is it too much to support your favorite brand by just clicking the teleport button to check out their stores ? Lag? Well, I forgot to mention that we also have to invest into a good computer in order to run 3D programs and PS, AI and Substance painter … there’s no lag if you would treat your computer well and optimize it. A lot of us do it for a hobby too we can’t even live from the dollar or less even our items would cost you. Really I sometimes miss the times when SL was fun and all, and people would actually appreciate the work and time we put into our creations, we value our customers too, at least I do and I love to even gift stuff to people who shop in my stores … sometimes I’ll give out random gift cards for their… Read more »

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Whining "Designers"
Reply to  A store owner
2 years ago

You’re actually just too lazy to put your stuff on MP. A whole lot of you are lazy, greedy and really don’t give two shits about your customers. You have no clue about business. We see it in your prices, we see it in the clever new way to sell by body and we see it every damn day on social media. Y’all need a wake-up call!

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Bingo!
Reply to  A store owner
2 years ago

Personally, I’ve gotten about 5x as many sales on the mp as I have at any of my inworld locations for any of my items, sometimes even 10x more on a couple of my popular items. I don’t see the mp transaction fees as being any different from inworld rent. People don’t know how to find new inworld stores anymore, nor do they go to malls to discover new stores (if they can find the malls either, for that matter.) The only reason I even keep inworld locations at this point is for non-clothing demos and because event runners like to see them, maintaining them costs way more than they earn. I could probably draw more people in to my inworld locations with stuff like weekend sales, but most of my stuff is already about as cheap as I’m willing to go so it doesn’t seem worth it to me. Let’s do some math. My two inworld locations total about 400L$ a week, which is pretty cheap for rentals. If I sell an item for 200L$ on the mp it takes 20L$. If in a week I sell 20 of those items on the mp and 2 in world, that’s 3.6k L$ from the mp and 400L$ from the inworld store. Both cost the same to maintain but one is actually bringing in revenue and the other is just barely breaking even. Additionally, if I sell nothing on the mp it costs me nothing as well. If you don’t want to put your stuff on the mp that’s totally fine, it’s your decision, nobody can force you to do it and I can understand not wanting to put in the extra work when it doesn’t feel worth it to you. But unless you own a store that sells high volumes… Read more »

Last edited 2 years ago by Bingo!
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Never you
2 years ago
  1. 58. I absolutely cant stand Ebody reborn. The calves are unresponsive and the ass is too darn huge to be supported by those toothpick calves
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Chill Relax karen
Reply to  Never you
2 years ago

Solution to this issue than don’t buy it! It really is that simple. Also, if this is how you feel about e-body how do you feel about Kupra who have more ass then E-body and that one you can’t even shrink down. Let’s not forget that the body’s look isn’t the creator of the body it’s the shapes people are using. Also, reality it’s okay that you do not like something not everything in second life is for just you!

But I do find it interesting that a body that’s made for people of color bothers you so much. Also, woman who are average size. Not everyone is a model size in second life This is not Forever 21 or Abercrombie & Fitch where only size 0-4 is okay. What bothers you more the fact of people shapes that have zero to do with the creator of the body or is it that these people using the shape get more attention than you do?

It’s not like Maitreya, Legacy, Signature, and the number of others is going to go anywhere they are still to this date have more designs support then E-body or Kupra. If you do not like a feature on a body, then simply don’t look.

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Aili Panthar
2 years ago

60- there’s no privacy in SL, anyone can cam through your walls 😅

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Chill Relax karen
Reply to  Aili Panthar
2 years ago

Seems you’re not renting your own parcel! Cause when you own your own land you can mark every sim to have it so people cannot see into your own. They can still see you on mini map, but they can’t look through your wall because you won’t show up for them. If you live on a sim or someplace without this feature than you are being ripped off.

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  Aili Panthar
2 years ago

Actually if you own your parcel, you can keep people from not just coming into it, but also from looking in outside your parcel lines. They can still see your radar dots and assume, based on their location, but they can’t actually see your avatar. If you own a whole private island, the only way people you don’t allow can look at it is from the world map, since there are no other attached regions. So there are ways to have privacy, you just have to pay for them.

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Kangaroo Slayer
2 years ago

#25. Jade spews shit to anyone that’ll listen, she’ll smile to your face while driving a knife into your back. She’s one of the biggest manipulators I’ve ever came across. She’s all about kissing your ass until she gets what she wants and as soon as you don’t she’ll bitch to the other upper managers about how lazy or unreliable you are, just depends on whose most useful to her in that moment. Lets not forget she’s the one that reported Biscuit to LL for being underage then when she was useful she was amazing. Also the shit she spoke on Bear being lazy and a pervert and Chelsea I heard is back after Jade threw her RL kids into her toxic bitch fest after she quit.. as for Toxic she’s called her so many horrible names about putting SL before her RL man and kids, saying she copies everything and she has no mind of her own just follows her round like a love sick puppy. Best part is all these people you’ve named know exactly what Jade is, they don’t believe the shit she spews any more than we do they just let her think they do.

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nightmare
Reply to  Kangaroo Slayer
2 years ago

Sly stop being so but hurt and get off here since you wanna be a copycat make a club like voodoo, you must feel really proud of yourself to steal everything, instead of starting off from scratch.. its not going to last long  😉 

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asshole101
Reply to  Kangaroo Slayer
2 years ago

This is straight facts.
atleast biscuit had the balls to cut the ties to that spawn of satan.
the rest are just cowards in a herd of sheep

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Nola
2 years ago

#13 – Each Body is it’s own file. You have to rig for each body, and sometimes for each size of that body. That is a lot of work, a lot of time. Store owners have an easier time selling by individual body brand than trying to get you to pay for what the fatpack containing all body brands would be worth. This also saves money for those who only have 1 brand of body.

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Whining "Designers"
Reply to  Nola
2 years ago

Sales will start slowing and we’ll see these folks complaining and going back to the old wayin due time. The greed is disgusting on this platform.

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Personnel in practice
2 years ago

43-44-45-47 Still don’t see whats being described here. Do you really wanna get on Dante’s dick? Because if you wanna know the truth.It’s more than just one person. The fact that you think this proves you’re not in UFW therefore things in this site can’t be taken with a grain of salt. So I can’t tell you anything because you’ll spaz out and post about it like a monkey being given a bag of diarrhea to smear and sling everywhere.

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Clubs Only Care About Your Money
2 years ago

#2 A few sparse well planned events does not make a venue good. They can’t afford to stay active outside of these events with the most clique-y, drama starting, and rumor spreading staff on the furry side of Second Life.

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Major Yikes
2 years ago

#13 Now imagine doing that with every regular release, like greedy, low quality Violent Seduction. 🙂

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Blaise Glendevon
Reply to  Major Yikes
2 years ago

If you only use one or two rigs, it actually saves you money.

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Major Yikes
2 years ago

#13 Now imagine doing this for every regular release, like greedy, low-quality Violent Seduction. 🙂

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Yeah
Reply to  Major Yikes
2 years ago

That would be nice, I’d love to get all of the colors instead of all of the rigs.

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Broc Lee
2 years ago

#6 When someone is so jealous of you that they end up looking like a fool. 

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blah
2 years ago

12 breaks no laws, vendor systems get changed, announced in group notices and with time to spend. No store or company has to “contact” to say going to expire. You are pissy and reaching. Demo and don’t let gift cards sit for a year. As for looks? that is the main vendor AD you obviously only there for the 50Ls Fridays sorry don’t get a fatpack and options? Want those looks like what’s IN THE DEMO FATPACK HUD then buy the fatpack itself. Don’t be cheap and then get pissed

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Bjorn Sideways
Reply to  blah
2 years ago

I’m here to own up to my false claim on the fake photo.

Be Less Ignorant was correct.

Here is what happened. I went to the store not for the FLF but for the colors in the main vendor photo. I went past the FLF sign to the regular vendor because I wanted to see what that black one looked like and did it fit well. If it did I was going to buy the fatpack.
I got a demo and tried it on. I had my advanced lighting running and I did not see any of the iridescent colors on the photo. I swapped every color and still nothing.

After reading the comments I just went back to the store and got a fresh demo to rezz out in my photo studio. I NOW SEE the colors after flipping thru a few different EEPs.

And I have gone back and purchased the FatPack………

My apologies to Aleutia for that false allegation. Mea culpa.

Last edited 2 years ago by Bjorn Sideways
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blah
Reply to  Bjorn Sideways
2 years ago

yayyynesss glad you got the outfit with the cool texturing after all

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  blah
2 years ago

Most of your comment is pretty incoherent, but I bet the reason that person doesn’t see those colors/materials effects is because they’re running SL in low graphics. I’ve never purchased anything from that creator and not gotten what I expected, but I always have advanced lighting and an environment set that allows materials work to display best.

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blah
Reply to  Be Less Ignorant, Please
2 years ago

The items are current on FLF sales but only 2 color singles are on the rack below this Ad image. The person literally just didn’t look in the actual store aside the cheap sale at entrance rack. Those colors are seeable in the fatpack hud without materials, not quite as pretty and pop of course but are obviously there. As for incoherent, it was understandable you answered it didn’t you. I was just too lazy proofread for missing words or typos. Scientifically proven. -winks- also proves those that pick at grammer, spelling etc are very often unagreeable people with more closed minded personalities …

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Bjorn Sideways
Reply to  blah
2 years ago

The GC is a separate issue. Friend of mine received one as a gift. Friend didn’t know how the GC was purchased as it was literally a gift. Also wasn’t part of the store Group so wouldn’t receive any Group notices. They just took it to the store and was told it wasn’t good anymore because it had a time limit and didn’t honor any of it.

Last edited 2 years ago by Bjorn Sideways
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blah
Reply to  Bjorn Sideways
2 years ago

Then she needs speak with whoever gave it to her. They do not have to honor it if expired. Does a grocery honor expired coupons? no. Plus on top of that your friend did not even buy it so exactly why do you feel is breaking the law? She was not out any money

Last edited 2 years ago by blah
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Bjorn Sideways
Reply to  blah
2 years ago

It’s not a coupon, it’s a gift card. L$ were paid to the store in advance to create credit at that store. So the store got its money and the recipient got no product. In this case, the original purchaser was not the card holder. The recipient did not receive any documentation of any ‘rules’ on the card.

Now, I wouldn’t have issue for partial credit if the cards were purchased at 50% value… so lets say the original customer purchased a $2K card for $1K.
Shouldn’t the holder of that card still be able to redeem it for the *actual* amount it was purchased? Maybe that’s not enough… What limit would piss you off? 5K? 10? It shouldn’t matter…

In California the law is, gift cards /to individual stores/ cannot expire. A new card can be issued if the old one has a date on it and it expires, but you don’t lose the investment you made into credit with the store.

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blah
Reply to  Bjorn Sideways
2 years ago

The holder did not pay for it. Expired is expired. You can argue till blue in face. I live here and no nothing has happened has broken any laws. and Yes they can absolutely expire nor did the holder lose any investment even Walamrt giftcards can expire after so many years unuised. No amount would piss me off. Again expired is expired was gifted to me I am out nothing and entitled to nothing. The original purchaser would have known expired. If such a big issue have the person bought it go to the store and show proof of purchase. Whatever issue you imagine there is, is between purchaser and store not you or friend.

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Bjorn Sideways
Reply to  Bjorn Sideways
2 years ago

To be clear, this wasn’t one of those “everyone in the VIP group gets a $250 gift card to be used within two weeks” card. It was the kind that’s purchased with L$, meant to be a gift to another user.

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ephemeral
Reply to  blah
2 years ago

You know, it’s quite possible to have perfect grammar and yet be incoherent. Coherence and understandability aren’t just about some notion of “correctness” but about referencing the wider context in what you write, how you connect ideas together in a sequence, and so on.

Wild, I know.

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blah
Reply to  ephemeral
2 years ago

and yet I was understood perfectly that they answered as are you now to last. I mean I am sorry your life lacks so much that need feel superiority in correction of something so small within well .. this site. Each their own I prefer a more pleasant life than to worry and nit over such trival things

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Lillith
2 years ago

#32 – Are you f**king kidding me? Every designer who makes top quality textures buys brushes to make those textures. They have been doing that since Second Life started selling clothes back in 2003.

If buying brushes for Photoshop/Gimp/Paint Shop Pro/Etc means a person isn’t making original textures then absolutely NOTHING is original in SL.

Whoever made #32 has no clue how people make clothes. And Tuggy is a very talented designer who is undeserving of this.

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Happy Princess
2 years ago

Lol @ the ebody posts.. I have been using Maitreya for years and I am thankful for new bodies because they make me see Maitrya might have some issues but it still looks a lot better than Legacy, Kupra AND eBody even after all these years lol 😉

So please, keep buying the new bodies and keep making your av look bad with them, it makes us Maitreya women look even better not to mention all the cool clothes we can still wear 😉

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Chill Relax karen
Reply to  Happy Princess
2 years ago

Dear another Karen,

It’s very interesting that you say this because it says a lot about you as a person. Considering E-body and Kupra are for People of Color and for woman who are not size 0-4. I truly wonder why you hate them so much and sadly the stats speak for themselves why do so many men and others like the avatars if they were so ugly? Why do you feel so threatened by them?

The issue is that you felt the need to say that anyone who uses any other body is ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This message that you said sounds like you are trying to convince yourself of this. If that’s what you need more power to you. Not every woman is the same!

Maitreya stuff is mostly outdated considering it was created in 2007 almost 15 years ago.

For the record there are tons of people who are attractive that ware Legacy, Kupra and E-body cause again it’s about the shape, skin, cloths and style people ware not the mesh body.

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pewpew
Reply to  Happy Princess
2 years ago

Just lol

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  Happy Princess
2 years ago

You are delusional  😂  it’s really entertaining, watching basic bitches get super defensive and try to flip the script when literally everyone knows you look cheap and outdated- including yourselves- no matter how many “cool (old) clothes” you think you have. I see more and more non-Maitreya releases every day, and you guys’ whiny comments about it are so funny. No matter how many winky faces you post, time will keep moving on.

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I Love Underboob
Reply to  Happy Princess
2 years ago

Oh honey, no. I own the Maitreya on several alts for the girls I want to look slender but it’s not the best looking body. At this point it’s the cheapest body with wide support. That’s it.

If you enjoy your purchase, that’s fine.

You’re not superior because you clicked on a vendor and paid 2750L for a pixel body.

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Ha! XD
2 years ago

#17 – She tried to ask for Firestorm’s Manager XD ParadoxPandaSL Furry communities biggest Karen.

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SlayQueen
2 years ago

#9 So like, totally get that you cropped out most info from the photo to not advertise the stolen product, but, seriously, where can we find these?? Asking for a friend.

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Just Passing Through
Reply to  SlayQueen
2 years ago

RVN

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Just Passing Through
Reply to  SlayQueen
2 years ago

RVN
https://www.flickr.com/photos/192899044@N08/52430888230/in/datetaken/

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Master of hmm
2 years ago

#20. #25. Not hard to guess who posted these is it Sly? Weren’t you a manager at Voodoo along with your GM getting involved with all the said bitching you say Jade done? Opened a club and basically tried to mirror everything you and your GM got from working at Voodoo then come crying on here that Voodoo is similar to Convergent or whatever you call it when in reality you’re the thief aren’t you Sly? Opened what 3 weeks ago, didn’t Jade help you get staff that were previously Voodoo? You can’t even pay staff so what do you do… rent a full sim that you can’t afford either. Take your bi-polar ass out of the drama and do you and your child instead of trying to be some wannabe club owner that has zero clue what any of the costs entaled. I give you 2 months before you close it down. Staff don’t get tipped, no traffic so no sponsors…  💁 

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Ok then.
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Yes I think its funny also .All those People she constantly talked shit about work now or again in the Managment. I really wonder when they start to wake up and stop crawling in to her Fake lying ass . She talked shit about everyone. Not one excluded. I just hope they wake up before it’s to late .

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Sly
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Hold on lettme just sip my tea here while I read this.

Had my club open for nearly 2 months now, still going opened up in september.

Voodoo contains Pink,Blue & Purple in their logo I do not (is it because my club is a rectangle it makes it voodoo?)

If so please let me know when they go neon themed, GET BPM sync’d lights, when they put their staff names on the wall, when they get a fish tank and get crystals.

If I was a theif I think id have all of her sponsors and staff, But unfortantly I do not oh the shame.
I think I have 47 maybe 50 staff members?.

Dosn’t matter tho, were smaller but have fun, I tip my staff everytime their on stage, Pay my land fee’s, pay my managers, pay my PR.

Oh but i guess I dont know the cost of running a club when I pay it every week and budget for things like events every friday although Im a smaller club right?.

I spent 6+ months working on my documents and paper trails for the club and gutting it out making it my home inclusive of my own logo.

Please let me know when Voodoo gets all the exscat same paper work for my club & theirs. thank you.

Also please let me know when they start allowing people to have fun and not have to take a side or stress <3.

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Justsayin
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Biscuit has changed also

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Truth
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

How much can she have changed, she cheated on him/her (Sly) so he/her cheated on Biscuit. They broke up. Sly got with Feisty for what a monthish and broke up and went back to Biscuit. Obviously not very smart people. What is Sly gonna post more Hate on SL Secrets and get on Mic and talk more shit at Sets?

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EnoughAlready
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

Really curious, where you got your info from because me and Biscuit are not together.
But I do love how much you know about my love relationship.

I don’t talk shit on my sets, I throw shade thank you!.
And I don’t make SL posts I got anything to say I say it to your face ❤️

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Truth
Reply to  EnoughAlready
2 years ago

Are you Sly? Did you cheat on Biscuit, then date Feisty then break up with her and then get back together and now is single again. But Sly only posts under his own Legacy Name and is doing so in SL Secrets now? If you need reading comprehensions classes, then I suggest you take some there are plenty of them avail online.

Read the conversation before you come at me. KTHXBYE

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Justsayin
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Sly is a p.os

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Btw I have 0 Plans on closing ;). Even if I’m the only one gonna be DJing there. As long as One person wants to be there even just to talk for an hour, It is my home, My staffs home so I will continue to pay it and be there.

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Excuse me? 1. My layout / Work I spent 2-4 months gutting out and making. 2. I spent over 6 months making Convergent. 3. I brought Jade in as a DJ yeah she helped me get staff but also that staff left afterwards when Voodoo Opened. BooHoo, I’m at 47 staff members, but have events, a Management team I pay every Friday; a Pr I pay every Friday, a Club I spent months to nearly a year working on to open. It opened in September, not 3 weeks ago we’ve been open for nearly a month and a half after nearly half of year of planning. I stole no layouts, Or designs or anything from Voodoo. My check in systems, scheduling, My counts for call outs and fills, My designs, and My club values entirely differ from Voodoo’s. What because we have the same basic rules all clubs do of don’t show up to your shift or do your fills you can’t be in staff or you’ll lose your perm? That makes us stealing voodoo?. It’s funny because, If I think if I stole voodoo’s shit I would of done it a lot better and have all their events and sponsors, I didn’t. I sit at 47 staff members I tip each staff member every hour that I can while paying for the sim and my management team and my PR. All while I have one sponsor. Only. We are growing, Rome wasn’t built in a night. But I can say for a fact if you want proof my club is far from Voodoo’s and this mesh layout I have gutted out and rebuilt my self and TEXTURED. Come in Crtl alt V see all the prims, right click and edit see the different creator names on each object. Because… Read more »

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Half and half
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

Rofl

Last edited 2 years ago by Half and half
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blah
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Thats actually Havoks old layout and box

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Justsayin
Reply to  blah
2 years ago

Actually no voodoo had it first I was working havoc until I broke up with my gf

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Truth
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

August Torii never did anything original.

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jadey
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

and thank you who ever you are

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Churr Bruh
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

Woah, pump the hate brakes there fox and friends, no need to bring peoples kids in to this, that’s a low blow for anyone, even some lowlife on virtual secrets. Pretty sure the mod should take this one down, it’s pretty much Doxxing someone’s real life.

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jadey
Reply to  Master of hmm
2 years ago

While I do agree with majority of what is written here, I also strongly believe that children should never ever be brought into any online drama period.
♥

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  jadey
2 years ago

really dunno why your trying to defend me slightly, when you litterly told my friend/manager “Convergent is just voodoo, they tried to steal everything from voodoo” “Sly and Biscuit both called you lazy and said you were a bad Manager” “Convergent dosn’t pay their Managers correctly”. To get her to go to club Voodoo and work for you. & Then had the nerve to sit there and say you do nothing wrong. The reason im this bashed, and have this much shit talked about me, is BECAUSE I TRUSTED YOU. I let you into my club I worked on for 6+ Months. I let you back into my life, and I trusted you. Only to be stabbed in the back, have my Management stolen from underneith me, my staff members then poached from what oh hold on what was it?. “A list from 2018” All while you couldn’t say shit to my face, who you aparently had an alliance with to work together for our clubs both to succeed with. and then quit, and then as soon as I called it all out?, And removed the ones who were litterly destroying everything I spent my time and money into building?. Im the bad person?. How does it feel to fuck over sorry not just me but the two people, who were real with you and not there because you had a club, or knew people, or you had L’s coming out of your ass. Because all your left with now? is fake people to scared to tell you to your face, your doing wrong, because they want something you have. or to be in the most popular club. I was real with you from the start Ill be real now. You started Hissing and turned into a SNAKE the moment… Read more »

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CallingYouOut
Reply to  jadey
2 years ago

Mentioning the fact that someone has a kid is not the same as “bringing kids into it”. And it’s far from doxxing. So pump your own brakes.  ❤ 

And @jadey, you had noooo problem bringing your kids into your SL drama for the past few years. So you can quit the “woe is me” bullshit.

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Cheeky brekkie
2 years ago

#20 Kinda looks like the old voodoo? I have been going to voodoo since, well, forever, never worked there as i rather listen to the music than have actually work. Seems who ever has posted all this stuff about voodoo and jade has a hard-on for her? or is it just jealousy?

#37 OMG! someone copied something from the real world? shock horror.

#53 Who really cares? people have been stealing content and ideas for years, move on.

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Justsayin
Reply to  Cheeky brekkie
2 years ago

It’s always been similar layout, no originality

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CallingYouOut
2 years ago

20/25/52: Watching this trash human being (if she even qualifies as human) try to crawl her way back into relevance is the comedy drama that no one needs or asked for. xD Jade, you and others like you are the worst part of SL. The lies, the manipulation, the racism and dare I say – the cheating. Btw, how’s that new baby of yours doing? Ya know, the one you had with your ex while you were dating someone.

Anyone who has been around Jade more than a few minutes knows how much garbage she spews about people she is supposedly close with or cares about. How every ex has done her wrong in some way, shape or form. How she’s ALWAYS the victim and NEVER the culprit.

After a while, when bullshit keeps happening to you and everyone else is the “bad guy”, you might take a look in the mirror (if you can keep it from breaking).

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Justsayin
Reply to  CallingYouOut
2 years ago

Murder was cheating on Jade from the start

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Ok then.
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

She was cheating on him also or how do you think that Baby exists? Stop making her relevant .

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CallingYouOut
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

SL cheating is bad enough. On both parts. But getting knocked up by your ex and then hiding and lying about it? Yeah… gonna go out on a limb and say that’s a couple orders of magnitude shittier than simply cheating. But hey, who’s keeping score?

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Justsayin
Reply to  CallingYouOut
2 years ago

This tho is 100% correct, take it from one of their staff members sly is nothing other than a p.o.s. I still haven’t done a set there because he speaks like he is better than everyone else and talks down to people. Sorry SHE

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

hey freya how ya doing?.

Nice to know who the snake was 😉

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Freya
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

Aww are we butthurt? I have no idea what you’re on about tho lmao. I could have said shit behind your back but you should be thanking me, at least I had enough respect to say whatever I did to your face. Respect that you dont even deserve lol. Take a hard look in the mirror Sly…then please go apologise to the tree out there that’s putting out the oxygen that you take in.

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Truth
Reply to  Freya
2 years ago

You bet your ass he is I talked to a few and got some classic quotes from princess Sly:

Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: You think ill do nothing?
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: do you truly want to test that theory
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: go ask jade
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: what i did to her
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: and her so called club voodoo
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: or dee trisk
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: or biscuit
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: what dirt on me? i dated biscuit for 8 months. took down voodoo. im an alchoholic, I dj and i blog.
Sly ʍƒϊĸη ƬʀαιηШʀεcҡ™: No mine might not. but hundreds of others down the gossip chain which secondlife loves to imploy. will. trust.

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

Awe you realized that I’m Gender-Fluid and Female in RL. I’m so upset 😭 ima cry, Not really? When have I hidden the fact I have tits in RL, or that I preference to Male pronouns but don’t take it to heart if you don’t respect it. I have never spoken highly about my self or down on anyone, I have staff logs to prove it, but hey guess not everyone can understand that I like to boost up my staff instead of tear them down 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Truth
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

No, you just openly tear people down because you derive some perverse pleasure off it and think it is funny and cool like some pathetic emo pre-teen. You are one sorry excuse for a human being. It has nothing to do with your gender fluidity at all. You’re just a sorry excuse for a person. You only give a shit about one thing you. You have cheated, will cheat and will tear others down like you did Jade, Voodoo, Vic who ever will be next. If someone who hates someone else and you like that person at the time tells you they are this that or the other you will jump on the bandwagon like a little troll and get on the mic as a DJ there and run your mouth and get away with it because you can be covered by the owner or GM who your banging (biscuit) at the time while talking shit about the owner (Jade) whatever the case may be. GTFO you POS.

Club Owners should ban and fire you and blacklist you period. I know you probably are up Kory and Wicked’s ass at D-Block so will never leave there but it’s all good EMO Karma is a bitch.

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

I havn’t worked at D-block in months.

I havn’t torn anyone down, i mean if JADE was torn down, she wouldn’t have her club, her sponsors, her staff would she?.

Who’s sitting at 47 people.

Who tore, who down again?.

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Someone
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

You just need someone to point fingers at for your fuck ups, dont you? 🙂

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Truth
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

D-Block know Drama, doesn’t matter if you work there or not i don’t follow your emo bitch ass because I literally was there when you railed on Vic. It’s not cool in anyway shape or form. It literally shows how pathetic you are. Blunt is one thing what you said was bullshit. Jade did it to Murder whether someone deserves it or not is uncool.

I have seen Gyazos of you trying to blast people in their boxes trying to act like you are somebody when you are just compensating for your shortcomings in your own life and pretending to be something you are not. A human being and an adult.

Those who think you are cool and funny are just POS like yourself and the stuff you step in when mowing the yard and forgot to pick it up.

I have witnessed you, lie about it all you want. I have seen it and read it with gyazos of my own two eyes and as a real woman you are a disgusting POS.

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

Awe, I didnt realize I have this hard core of a follower. I didn’t rail on Vic <- unless you mean Microphone? when I was intoxicated as shit and pushed into a corner after 2 weeks of drama and I let my filter go?. Boo hoo IM HUMAN AND HAVE EMOTIONS. congratulations. So sad isn’t it? contradicting your self now about me still being at D-block and then Boom Im not? so now your like I WAS THERE WHEN YOU TALKED SHIT ON MICROPHONE. congrats so was 60+ other people. Gyazo’s of me telling someone off?. yeah that happens, iv’e done that lemme count multiple times because unlike others, Im willing to take a bad rep and be labeled a piece of shit,trash human being and beef others for people I CARE about. I aint no pussy I gotta go to war for people close to me I will. anyone whos by my side knows this, and I have no shame in it. so get new dirt. Jade did what to murder? Dont know dont care not my life, glad your bringing jade up as your talking about me tho. why you going in circles? A human being and an adult? so i guess i not human, so if im not human by fault I dont have to be an adult, and can be as childish, and petty as i wish! <3 im happy. No one thinks im cool, Anybody who knows me knows im a dork/nerd just like them and we bicker on each other because were real. But funny yeah I am funny cause Im funny looking just saying ;). Lie about what exscatly?, I never lie. I speak the truth about my self the bad and good either take me all or dont take me at all.… Read more »

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Truth
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

You do not care about shit because you will drop someone on a dime. The things you have proven so far is this: You cannot hold your liquor and in turn unleash on people. You don’t just talk shit or say shit. You can trigger people and I do not think you understand that. Realize that. I drink heavily and do not say half the shit I want to. I haven’t unloaded the gyazo’s of you saying what you say to people (don’t worry child I will get to my point) Your Truth is someone else’s lie. Realize this princess. There is your truth, there truth and the ACTUAL truth. So, what you hear from your current gf, ex gf, friend the current person you “claim” to care about is one side of the truth not the whole truth. Always remember “Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots.” Which category you want to put yourself in? Oh, I know you don’t give a fuck that’s the core of the issue. You want to defend people you care about this week. Most people don’t need you to defend them princess. they can take care of themselves. You probably irritate more people than you know they just are just too whatever the case may be to confront you because of your bombastic bullshit to say it to your face bitch. I just did. You are overcompensating for some traumatic childhood crap or some shortcoming in life and you are trying to be an alpha just remember there is a bigger and better bitch out there than you. You will meet that person one day and they will punk the life out of you. Wait for it. I doubt you will realize when you are truly wrong of… Read more »

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

Lmao , Okay I still haven’t done a set there why not just quit instead of sitting in my staff Then like a creep?

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Justsayin
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

Sly your showing how desperate you are lol

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CallingYouOut
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

Nice try, kiddo. But this isn’t Sly. I could give a wet fart about Sly. However, it’s interesting that you turn this to Sly as I never mentioned them. Oops… I think your bias is showing. How vixen of you. 😉 Might wanna tuck that back into before it gets caught on something.

Anyway, enjoy your shit-show with your gal pal. If you haven’t been screwed over, it just hasn’t been your turn yet. Hell, just ask her exes and how they all supposedly stalked her all the way to AU. As if anyone has the time or desire to get that close to her bullshit. But hey, she’s the victim, right? Gotta keep playing that card while she has it.

Toodles!

Last edited 2 years ago by CallingYouOut
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Truth
Reply to  CallingYouOut
2 years ago

Does it really matter? She got kicked from the Kunt family. I mean LMFAO if that isn’t Trash taking out the GARBAGE, I don’t know what is.  😂 

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CallingYouOut
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

PREACH!  😂 

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Sl karen
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

Who would ever want to be apart of that family lol

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  Sl karen
2 years ago

People who have been nothing but sad, 100% losers since high school, desperately looking to find out what it feels like to be one of the “cool kids”. It figures they would have no idea what that looks like, so they end up either Kunts or Trisks.

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Yeah uh huh
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

As far as I remember it Jade left that family and who can blame her really?

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Truth
Reply to  Yeah uh huh
2 years ago

Does Jade tell anyone the truth really? If you believe that then the sun is blue, and the sky is yellow, and the grass is pink.

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Sly
Reply to  CallingYouOut
2 years ago

This is facts, Just saying.

but BTW if i had stuff to say and that was me, I don’t hide behind a fake name, never have never will.

Im blunt as all hell, look at my track record and you’ll see how many times iv’e called people out to their faces or in crowds of people not caring what others thought about me.

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Yeah uh huh
Reply to  CallingYouOut
2 years ago

Talk about ex’s, it was you who showed photos of your ex to people bringing rl into sl. How big of you to bring people’s personal rl online.

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CallingYouOut
Reply to  Yeah uh huh
2 years ago

You really need to check your facts, cochise. I am not who you think I am.  😂  But go on. Vent if you need to. I’ll pull up a chair and take notes.  😋 

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Yeah uh huh
Reply to  CallingYouOut
2 years ago

You seem to keep tabs on everything, must have her on the brain. You seem to know her so well yet can’t let her go. There is therapy for people like you. Sounds like you are infatuated with Jade and vixen.
I don’t hear anything bad coming from Jade.
Seems a hell of a lot of people watch jades every move. Stalkers much

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CallingYouOut
Reply to  Yeah uh huh
2 years ago

So, jade comes in and plays all innocent. Is that the victim bell I hear ringing? Pull your mouth off her tit. The milk is sour enough.

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Justsayin
2 years ago

Does It look like I need to post shit without my legacy name? Unlike some people I am not a coward 😉

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

Literally everyone who says shit like this is a drama whore who wants to drag stuff from this site into SL and harass people on the grid. Why would anyone give you that opportunity? No one with a functioning brain uses their SL username here.

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Truth
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

No just an emo pre-teen piece of shit with no regards for others and the consequences of your actions. You only give a shit about yourself. You would screw your parents over to save your own ass and I truly believe that.

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

Shows how much you know about me.

which seems to be none. how about you learn about me truly and not just based off of rumors or through gossip.

And then try again.

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Truth
Reply to  Sly.Alpha
2 years ago

See my response above I have listened to you do it and seen the gyazos. You’re a liar and a POS.

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Sly.Alpha
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

Unlike you I dont live my life on Virtual serect’s Ill get back to you in maximum time maybe 2 hours. if not please wait 2 to 3 business days.

Thank you <3

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CallingYouOut
Reply to  Truth
2 years ago

So, um… Wanna get together sometime? I’ve been trying to reach you regarding your car’s extended warranty.  😘 

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Yeah
2 years ago

13. This is how all creators should sell their stuff, in my opinion. It takes a lot of work to rig for different bodies, so they should get paid for each. It also helps them gauge which bodies are more popular with their store. Also with body packs, you tend to get every color instead of getting every body rig. I’d much rather have all the colors, than have rigs for bodies that I don’t even own.

28. LL takes a fee from Marketplace sales, that’s why a lot of creators opt to not list their products there. Or if they do, it’ll be more expensive on the MP vs. the price in-world. 

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ephemeral
Reply to  Yeah
2 years ago

13: It certainly makes as much sense as selling by color, which is what we all did when there was only one body and no fitted mesh. But SL’s technology has advanced, we can do more, and there’s no reason why the old sales models ought to apply. I agree that it’s also good for creators to know what rigs their customers want. And if I want something, I am pretty much going to want all the colors. Yay, saving money!

However, I do get a little grumpy when things are sold not just by overall body, but by body + mod (e.g., eBody, eBody + juicy, eBody + mounds would all be 3 separate purchases instead of just eBody + whatever mods the creator wants to include). Even here I get that it’s useful for gauging popularity and spending your time making what most people want—but the amount of effort required to alter an existing rig for a single body mod is just not the amount of effort to do an entirely different rig in the first place.

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Former Soviet Nation
Reply to  Yeah
2 years ago

I can only endorse 13 if they either lower the price per item or include multiple colors. I’m not paying full price for a single color item and only getting one body option. That’s an absolute rip off. It was acceptable with gatchas only because they were transferable. For no trans items, fuck that shit.

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Yeah
Reply to  Former Soviet Nation
2 years ago

Outside of weekend sales, I have never purchased a body pack that hasn’t included all of the colors.

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Be Less Ignorant, Please
Reply to  Former Soviet Nation
2 years ago

Obviously it’s all the colors in the pack… people aren’t selling things by color *and* body at the same time.

*Edit- outside of sales. If you’re complaining about paying 50-75L for one item in one color for one body, you’re just a cheap ass.

Last edited 2 years ago by Be Less Ignorant, Please
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Former Soviet Nation
Reply to  Be Less Ignorant, Please
2 years ago

I really wouldn’t be surprised if they were, but yeah, sure. I’d buy something for a single body type at normal price if it included a few colors. I don’t shop every weekend sale so idk the context of the store in that screenshot.

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SL Player
2 years ago

#6 there is plenty of other stuff in that store and all of it is actually very nice. What have you contributed to the SL cumminuty aside this stupid post OP?

#13 you spent thousands on bodies but complain about 50 – 75 LS sale items per body? really?

#22 cool glasses, absolutely tastless ad.

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