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  1. #34 I usually see mostly the Juicy Boobs being supported, for Mounds I don’t see much. But yes, V-Tech and the other flat chest barely get any support and the market for bulged pants on the Reborn is quite far and between as well….

    But all the stuff that is available is super high quality, so it’s really cool to explore anyway.

  2. #24 – I’m a blogger AND a creator. A lot of the events my store is in don’t *require* a fatpack to be sent out. They highly suggest it and ask repeatedly, but you won’t get in trouble for opting to not provide one.

    As for blogging – I blog for 2 large events. Both of them track what is being taken and verify that the items are being used. One event I blog for uses blogotex, which means items taken HAVE to be blogged or we risk being fired. The other event uses a whitelist script, and they keep track of who is taking what. As far as I’m aware, the creators for that round are encouraged to add their item in exchange for having access to the other items in that round.

    Perhaps you are just not in good enough events? Stop blaming poor event organization on bloggers. If the bloggers for the event you are working for are low quality, then you are in a low quality event, which likely means your items are low quality. Improve the quality of your items, you’ll get invited to higher quality events with higher quality bloggers….it’s not that difficult.

  3. #24 As a designer I love when blogger packs are mandatory, or at the very least, you can’t take something unless you give something. I love when creators swap with each other. As far as bloggers go, that depends on the event. The ones that leave everyone in the group forever or there are bloggers who take everything and blog one item. Those are not great. The events that pay attention to the bloggers and hire good ones who try to blog as much as they can (within reason) I love those. Honestly if a blogger takes your item and never uses it, they likely wouldn’t have given you money anyway. The ones who do use them, probably brought you some customers. Your not really losing anything if 15 bloggers take your blogger pack and only 5 of them ever even use it. Those five probably brought you 3 times the sales. If they don’t use it, it’s either deleted or lost deep among the other things they are trying to blog and it’s as good as if they didn’t take it, It likely wasn’t a sale anyway. Also I mean, asking bloggers to give you money so they can do work for you to make you more money, that’s pretty greedy don’t you think? Bloggers get paid in product to send people to events. If your item wasn’t featured, that doesn’t mean someone else’s item didn’t get a customer to the event and maybe that customer saw your item too. Some bloggers are leeches, but there are also a lot more that take beautiful pictures and do great promotion work, and they get paid for their time in virtual clothing and accessories.

  4. 39. Oh wow. I remember, a long time ago, I had a sexual encounter with him. To be honest, he was nothing but hot air and disappointment.
    43. That’s actually hilarious. Explains a few things, about some of the narcissistic trash that inhabits that sim. That individual should be banned from any and all sims on the grid. Fuck them and their bullshit.

  5. Trust no bitch you nothing but leeching as cunt. Blogging djing trying to host don’t help with you. You are a fool so fuck you and your friends and family you bum bitch.

    And roleplaying Sims are dead

  6. #6 tho LMAO……him and his girlfriend…both the biggest bunch of snobs I’ve ever seen, they’re just all around snobbish especially art snobs, don’t bother ever getting any likes or noticed by either of them unless you like their shit and constantly kiss their snobby asses

    • Whale and here boy toys are all snobby as fuck, I mean go to Sorass profile “high snobriety”?…..

  7. #49 if you are gonna shame, at least do it right – her current name is Rivers, not River 😉

  8. #24 I Know Who You Are  :wpds_twisted: 

    • And nobody cares who you are, because “thot babyfaced whore bloggers” are basically a dime a dozen.

  9. #24 I’m confused. If the real problem is events where creators are forced to send out fatpacks to event blogger groups — aren’t those rules made by the event organisers? Why the blogger hate then? The bloggers are hired to promote the event, not every single participating store, right?

    The event owners should make it optional, or have dedicated bloggers assigned to each store. Better yet, they should pay their bloggers to buy items from stores they wish to feature.The participation fee they charge includes marketing, doesn’t it?
    So take it up with the management.

    • Because the management of events will often will reject any discussion of removing mandatory blog packs. Not saying it’s really right, but when management won’t listen these creators get frustrated and start trying to take it to the people who might (aka the event bloggers,) and when the bloggers don’t listen, creators will start trying to get anyone to listen and it really just ends up as venting. It can seem like the management is favoring the blog team over the people actually paying for the event. This is a frustration I’ve been seeing build up in some people for over a year now and it’s obviously not limited to just the people I know, it’s not coming from nowhere.
      There’s not an infinite number of events that can be switched to if you’re not happy with the one you’re at, especially if you’re part of a niche that’s only covered by a handful of events. Events for creators exist primarily as a form of advertisement, and if you’re not getting the full extent of the advertisement you’re paying for, that hurts your business. Frankly a lot of this could be pretty easily resolved if management at events tried to diversify their blog team a bit more instead of taking on more people with the same style and aesthetics. That should be part of their job in bringing on bloggers, but it doesn’t seem like they’re bothering to try at all.

      • I suppose, when a store joins an event has the goal of making money! If you join something means you agree with its rules or even if you do not completely agree you are ok with it as long as you are going to reach your goals.
        If you are reaching your goals you have no reason to complain, afterall even not agreeing completly with the rules they are working in your favor so no reason to try to change something that is clearly working fine!
        If you are not reaching your goals means that is not the right event for you, in that case you can just leave and try another event.
        Events have their own crowds but what brings the people to events are the stores in it, having a diversity of styles can be good and bad depending of the event crowd and how big is the crowd of the stores in it for that specific style.

        Either way bitching about bloggers or event rules is pointless, bloggers can’t be hold accountable for lack of sales. On the other hand, the event management should know their own crowd and they should at least annalyse the number of stores for a specific style and the crowd they will bring in, if the numbers are insufficient then was their mistake, because to begin with they should have never invited those stores in.

        Any business that does not bother to run their numbers will eventually fail.

        Take it from someone that runs multiple business in RL, or just don’t and keep failing and blaming others for it.  😉 

        P.S. I usually charge for business advise, but take it as a freebie for the sake of SL bloggers community  😅 

      • I forgot to mention… It is important to have realistic goals, if we are doing something that is not for the big masses we cannot expect having the same return as those doing it…

  10. Seems like all these family community places have some type of clique drama, usually the same group of people bouncing from Cedar Creek to Fox Hollow to Woodland to New Haven and back. It’s best to stick with like-minded friends, just try to enjoy yourself, and avoid people you find unpleasant. I mean, eventually you’ll find someone new that you vibe with. It might be nice to have a try at some of the smaller communities like Cheesecake Valley, Port Dominion, Ashborne, Missing Mile, Misthaven, The Hills… I am sure there’s more.

    • Port Dominion and Missing Mile are great, nothing will ever be as good as Fox Hollow though

  11. #24 Not all of us are so don’t be shallow and loop everyone in the same category of a shitty experience you have had.. some of us actually are passionate about the blogging WE do thanks.

    • Except that way too many SL Bloggers see themselves on par with RL celebrities and/or influencers and have such a shitty attitude toward everyone. It’s SL ffs.

  12. #34 – Hahaha Mounds? They barely get any creator support and are actually getting dropped by a couple creators already.  😂  I’d be happy if Mounds got a decent top each event that didn’t look like something you’d see a stripper wear. Juicy Boobs gets so much attention when it looks like a pair of water balloons on some avatars. Least when Juicy gets a top the regular Reborn chest does as well.

    • ithink that they’re releasing way too fast and many breast model for creators to keep up with at this point

  13. I’m not understanding why there is so much hate on New Haven. SL as a whole has lost the ability to RP. It plagued Fox Hollow, Woodland, and any other “big” community. People seem to only be interested in renting and staying in their houses. I’m curious to know if the people complaining about the lack of RP in New Haven have actually tried RPing in New Haven? As with anywhere, you have to make your own RP.

  15. So, my two cents on New Haven. It’s not the sims problem, it’s not an admin problem. It’s not even an individual problem, it’s a culture problem. We look so hard for our ‘tribes’ and once we find them, we’re content in our group because it becomes our safe space. We end up not interacting with new people unless it’s by chance during a group roleplay scene. We end up unintentionally ostracizing people because we stick to our people and don’t interact with anyone else.

  16. #48. This person is so sweet until you do something so teeny tiny to upset them then they turn into this raging idiot and starts shit talking the people that “did them wrong” no wonder I chose to be closer to the other person in our friend group, they’re actually nice and A FRIEND

  17. #24 Newsflash for you: RL stores do this ALL the time. PR packages are a thing and have been a thing for many years now, and they are sent to people FOR FREE just for the chance to be featured on photos or a video, and with no guarantee of getting featured. And unlike us and our virtual goods, that allow you to create infinite copies of your product with absolutely zero cost, RL stores actually invest money and resources in the PR packages that they send.
    Stop your whining.

    #25, #26, #29, #33 Have you thought about… dunno… not buying them?

  18. #5 So fucking true.

    #52 seems to not be specific, but this is something that feels like would be related to WildFire honestly.

    Like WildFire doesn’t know what to do for the community anymore. It’s just desperately searching partnership so new victims can end up giving her the money they need after their big fuck up with the community. It’s basically the VRChat situation with WildFire, except it successfully managed to fool people, and they feel no remorse taking money.

  19. #28 I have a Lel Prim head and I don’t think my av looks like a “baby” or a “child” at all. You can make ANY head to “look” that way (Ceylon, etc.) What gets me is that people on this game are on a constant witch-hunt to determine who and who isn’t playing a kid av and are seeing kid avs EVERYWHERE so they can go on a tirade and send mass reports or talk shit about them here. It’s one thing if you have clear proof that someone is engaging in sexual ageplay on an actual kid avatar (like those people who have Toddleedoo heads and Bebe bodies) and then it’s another to just go around accusing random people to start some witch-hunt.

    • Girl same. From where I am from in real life those heads (Prim, Ceylon, etc.) look like the average ADULT female face so I see nothing juvenile or underage about them or maybe it’s because the average SL user from the US or EU is from the 50+ demographic and white people are genetically predisposed to age faster so when they see someone they perceive as young they feel so triggered and insecure about their saggy overweight geriatric asses

      • This! In the brains of these snowflakes, if you’re not slightly overveight(at best) and your face looks like you’ve worked 16 hour days for a few decades, you’re a pedo.

        You literally can’t look like a typical east/south-east Asian woman without getting ageplayer and pedo accusations thrown at you on a daily basis.

        So in essence, the ideal woman: is overworked, has a poor diet, does not exercise, has back issues due to having obnoxiously big tits, is white and American.

        Don’t dare to look like your true self, be fat, be white.

    • Can’t even model a humanoid avi after my irl self without being called a child, despite being an adult for over a decade now. SL is wild sometimes.

  20. #24 I don’t know why creators even do it. Most bloggers are in “like my stuff and I like yours back”-circlejerks, pretty sure their views/likes to sales conversion rates are absolutely abysmal.
    Add some sort of affiliate system with trackable codes and 99% of blogs wouldbe gone tomorrow

    • I don’t even follow people back if their photostream looks mostly like blogger pics; they have to be exceptionally awesome, artistic blogger photos and those are quite rare compared to the generic, “all my shots are sideways” people. I prefer to follow the creators themselves on flickr, and if they keep their streams updated with new releases and locations, I don’t know why they need bloggers at all.

    • It’s like Instragram “influencers”, but even sadder because it’s SL.
      Love it when bloggers act like they’re hot shit – am I supposed to know who they are?

      • At least influencers have a determinable target audience and you can quantify the sales they bring in, so while it’s annoying I still get it. SL Flickr is just a giant pic dump with basically zero marketing value, big brain move tricking people into giving out free stuff in exchange for dumping some more pics into the pile which they’d do either way.

  21. 33 — lol I always have wondered if other people also looked at the creepy pupil eye images that some people use as glare effects.

    34 — Meanwhile I can hardly find anything for them that isn’t a damn bikini.

    41 — idk who’s accusing who but whoever is accusing of copying is a dumbass. Neither look remotely similar.

  22. So, How were those sales at the event? Poor? Lets blame bloggers!! Actually only a % of exposure is through bloggers the rest is down to advertising the event should it be shopping guides, early access FOR BLOGGERS/BLOGGER GROUPS, social media, other SL related sites that that will advertise for the event. No blogger works for *free shit* and if they do they are brand jumpers OR only blog for a short amount of time. The cost of blogging is a lot, photoshop, pro flickr, props and other styles that will go with what ever design you give out not to Mention the time they put in, I take days on a picture. The child like avatars, BBG ect are not my style in-fact I don’t care much for that style either. Maybe take time to look through the events bloggers to match what you want and send the items to them. I am going to be blunt…. if your items are low quality and generic Its a freebie for the trash because my inventory space is precious, a great amount of event items get deleted after the event ends and of course I speak for myself but I KNOW other bloggers do the same. After blogging for 8 years+ trust me its a real dedication to a HOBBY that drives you, real bloggers work their backsides off. My advise would be to message the blog manager of said events and let them know that no one is blogging your stuff they should then tell the blog team to get it done and if they don’t put it down to experience and just do what you want to do in terms of advertising.

    • Man I really hope people post more blogger secrets on here.
      The comments section being full of entitled blogthots having a meltdown is a treat

      • I used to blog for some rather hot designers and I can attest most bloggers think the world of themselves once they get a following.

        But their following is usually never enough to qualify for ad revenue on their blog.

      • I can count all the times a blogger’s Flickr post made me click through to their actual blog on my fingers, in all my years, but I don’t really need any help mixing and matching items from different creators to make unique ensembles. I guess I prefer people following bloggers to compensate for their own lack of creativity to people wearing outfits exactly as sold together like mannequins.

      • A melt down? You are the one having a melt down mate. Go make something low quality and generic.

  23. 17 – That’s a pretty good description of all “ACCESS Management” out there. Did you see all the people ass licking Silvia? It’s because they still don’t know who she really is. It will take time for the majority of the people to meet the real Silvia, I hope it will happen soon, cause I believe in karma and one day her institution of pain and harassment will be over, and it will be replaced by good events with people that cares and owners that are good and nice people. There are so many good events out there already. If you feel you disagree with this comment, please take 1 min of your time to consider that you don’t actually know everything because maybe you are not a designer or a blogger or a manager in Silvia’s events, so you are not able to fully understand why we are standing against this kind of behaviour.

    • Are you a manager, a designer or a blogger in Silvia’s events? If yes, why are you still working with someone you dispise so much? If no, then how would you know?
      I can’t agree or disagree with you because although i know who she is i have never had any interection with her or her staff, but if she is that bad why is there people willing to work with her at all, when there is so many options in the market as you say so. To be honest, to me this looks a lot more like a witch hunt from people who would probably like to have what she has or to be where she is than about her persona…

      Show us some proof of how nasty she can be and i might start believing it. This kind of posts are nothing but empty accusations that say much more about who posted it than about the target.

      Is boring, does not add anything new to everything that has been posted about her and to those like me that are her events customers time by time just make us wonder if it is the truth or if whoever is posting is an ex staff, designer, blogger that she kicked out for some reason or some other event’s owner that is not as successful and instead of spending his/her energy on improvement his/her own business tries to denigrate the concorrence.

      I would be more willing to believe it if the rare times i go to her events i would see empty spots or lack of quality but that does not happen so WHY aren’t they leaving at all? Does people like to be treated like shit having the option to be treated well elsewhere or maybe they are not being treated as badly as you want everyone else to believe?

      And now i know i will be insulted and accused or supporting shitty people as it happens every time i question the veracity of a post or try to guess who i am which is even worse lol because i am just another nobody with a handful of avatars that i use as it pleases me in a virtual world called Second Life…  😂  😂  😂 

      Bring it on! I am ready! LOL

    • Good lord! You really have no clue about business do you? Do you really think it’s supposed to be about good times and happy feelings? It’s not. When people go to events the only thing they care about is walking out with the best new shiny outfit, jewelry, furniture, ect. They don’t go there for the drama. They couldn’t care less about that. All they want to know is this “Who worked the hardest for the L$1000 i’m going to spend here?” It doesn’t sound like it’s you. You sound like the type that when changes come you freak out instead of rolling with them. I don’t know this Sylvia woman from a hole in the wall but it sounds like she is a business woman doing things to make her business better. If it rocks the boat, so be it! She’s not going to please everyone. Why don’t you just quit Access and let someone else who actually wants to be there set up a booth? If you can’t leave the Access businesses because it’s a money maker for you then you just going to have to accept what she is offering. It’s never going back to the way it was. Crying about “pain and harassment” in the business world is only going to get you laughed at by other business people. Here at Virtual Secrets you might find some others that agree with you but don’t ever believe that is going to get you more sales. You need to be tough as nails not suffering from “pain and harassment”.

    • The thing is … they will not give a shit. They’re licking her ass because they wanna be part of her events.

  24. #24 Geez, please tell us who you are so all the bloggers/leechers can stay away from your entitled, condescending ass.

    “people who do nothing but take pictures”? Lol! All they get is a measly copy out of unlimited copies of an item that they will probably never use after taking that picture. If they do blog it, you earn a lot more than you “pay”. Show some respect.

    • “Pls give me fatpack for free, I promise I’ll never use it again, plspls I need it for muh blogging”

      Does this tactic actually work? If it does… why don’t we all become “Bloggers” and beg for free shit?

      • That’s exactly why there are so many bloggers. They get free shit.

      • If the rules of an event are not of your liking do not join! If you think that less of all boggers do not invite them to blog your stuff, as simple as that and we all move on! Your post is stupid and pointless it does say much more about you calling out for attention then the events you didn’t tag and the bloggers that do not even know who the fuck you are and probably not even willing to blog whatever you make! Now grab all the attention you have received and go back to your insignificant life!  🙄 

      • If a blogger works for an event, the event has rules not only for designers, but for bloggers as well. In most events, they have to blog at least 3 times per round and at least 3-5 different designers per post. This means that each round of any given event will have at least 15 designers advertised per blogger, and we provide our items in the same manner RL stores send out PR packages.
        If nobody chose your items, then maybe your item wasn’t that good or just got overlooked (which says something about the quality of your items). Most events have a bloggers’ manager, and all we have to do is tell this person that our item isn’t getting blogged, and it will be fixed.
        By all means, feel free to become a blogger, I dare you. I wouldn’t hire you for anything on this grid, but wish you luck.

    • I mean the majority of these “bloggers” are doing just that though. Blogging is not just about taking a picture and slapping a title and landmark in the description. An actual blogger will take the time to write a review on the things they’re wearing. Strawberry Linden is a good example that comes to mind when I think about SL bloggers who actually blogged about the products and outfits they wore.

    • Respect for what? Being an attention whore who mastered basic photo-taking? It grinds my gears to see well-made clothing items slapped onto some rando blogger’s janky shape with its squished flab and generic “I’m a bad girl” tongue-out facial expression. “Oh it’s SUCH a HARD job”. Quit your bullshit, admit it’s for the likes and own your neediness.

  25. #34 Feel like no matter what kind of mods or tits are made for xyz body noone can just be happy with anything. Who fucking cares how the body looks or the mounds look get over it. You want more mods made for v-tech do it yourself and quit whining on sl secrets it’s sad as fuck.

  26. #26 – I don’t see how making hair to fit more mainstream size is any different than clothing makers who only do certain bodies. It’s a creative choice. Every single consumable in SL isn’t for ‘every single body’ and frankly, Doux is popular enough to not have to worry about trying to please everyone. Creators make what they want, they don’t deserve a bunch of blowback because of that.

    • I myself have boobs that often fall between the default size and the first “+”, so I can sort of identify with the frustration, but there’s just SO much hair out there that it never occurred to me to get all butt frustrated over the fact that I can’t make some styles work.

    • My boobs are actually 75 and I don’t have an issue with clipping or anything. It’s the length of the hair that clips my ass with Reborn but not Maitreya. I’m not gonna bitch about it though. Reborn wasn’t out or big when some hairs came out and it’s the the creators fault.

  27. Reborn VTech another failure project what’s with all these flat chested females trying to look male looking. No we don’t want to see that.

    New Haven sim that place is wack the staffs are just typical ass kissers jumping to the next community to fuck up.

    Reborn VTech another failure project what’s with all these flat chested females trying to look male looking. No we don’t want to see that.

    New Haven sim that place is wack the staffs are just typical ass kissers jumping to the next community to fuck up.

    • I think that is room to everything in SL! SL is a fantasy world where you can be whoever the fuck you want. But if people’s taste is not what we can call the majority of what customers look for, then complaining about is pointless. SL is not free neither making stuff is something you can do in an hour or 2 as an hobby, so it is normal that store owners are will rig for those sizes that most people use. I do have a hard time too looking for stuff to 1 of my avatars but it is my choice to have something out of the ordinary and i do not even mind the effort because when it becomes effortless then means my avatar is looking pretty much like every other avatar.  🙄 

    • “flat chested females”

      Are you retarded? I don’t see many female avatars using v-tech. 99% of them have cocks.

      And cool, if you don’t want to see it. I don’t want to see baby-faced drooling ahegao sluts with balloon titties and clothes that look like it came out of a kid’s wardrobe. Nor do I want to see “Hucows” leaking milk from their ginormous titties all over the goddamn sim. But too bad. SL isn’t catered to what I like or dislike alone. Same goes for you.

    • No, YOU don’t want to see it, probably because you’re too inept to understand that not all females have boobs, and not all men want to look like they’re constantly flexing every single muscle in their body 24/7. Don’t like what you see? Block and derender

  28. #29 – Hard Agree. I’ve found myself getting ready to get a fatpack, then realizing it’s Vincue and going nope at the price tag.

  29. Another snoozfest about people no one knows or cares about. Boring!

  30. #28

    ROFL ironic how they eject and ban avatars wearing LeLutka Prim at *that spa* and *that hookup place* but they overlook other heads with a very similar look

    • And to those who downvoted me, I actually switch between Gaia and Prim but I was able to make both look mature enough to be in *that spa* and *wherever-club-you-hoe-in-to-catch-virtual-STD* I never got ejected or banned, it seems people on SL just have a tirade against short, young looking people

  31. As a blogger myself I’d love for these entitled creators, who hate bloggers, to identify themselves here. That way, us good for nothing bloggers can choose to no longer buy from them or blog their stuff. I spend a great deal of money monthly for my blog (no way you can be a good blogger and do it on freebies alone lol), and would prefer to spend it on those that don’t have such shitty attitudes.

    • Don’t worry, those of us that dislike freeloaders don’t sign up for events that require us to give you guys handouts, so you’re not getting our stuff whether you want to or not (:

      also lmfao “paying for your blog?” What? You know, it’s not necessary to pay for Flickr premium to post shitty SL porn.

      • I wish we knew who you are, so I could tell my bloggers to stay the heck away from you. I also wish I knew so that I would avoid buying anything from you, ever. I have nothing but respect for these people who take their time to make my stuff look awesome on photos and bring me more sales.

      • If you keep a well-updated store-only Flickr with clear pics of your items to show their quality, that will be the biggest boost to your sales, bigger than any indie blogger could possibly give you. (If you want to have a group where customers can post their pics in your items that’s cool, but make it separate from your store group; no one wants to dig.) When my friends link me to new releases they’re excited about, it is ALWAYS the creator’s Flickr, or the Seraphim blog. Never an individual blogger. And we spend a LOT.

      • Pay for my blog? Yes, most bloggers must buy items to blog. We may get a a shirt, or a chair, or a bed and then we have to fill in the rest with things that we purchase. Those who think they can be a blogger for freebies typically do not last long. Most stores and events will not even consider your blog until you have blogged (and spent only your own money) for 3-6 months. On blogotex they also have a way to “blacklist” those bloggers that join, take items, then leave.
        If we want to be able to post as many pictures as we do then yes we do need to be FLickr Pro to keep all our our pictures there, not just for NSFW ones, since there is a limit as to how many public normal photos you can now have. I’m not sure why you think all bloggers make nothing but shitty nsfw pictures. I personally do more decor than fashion myself, I also tend to not blog for events since their requirements are more stress than I choose to have for myself. All bloggers are different, and you clearly no nothing about them or know any personally so you talk out of sheer ignorance.
        Also, keep in mind, many creators take the fatpacks and items that are sent out in event groups for their own personal use. So do not just point fingers at bloggers. At least the bloggers have a reason to take the items.
        I’m sorry that no one wants to blog your items so you feel the need to take it out on bloggers, perhaps just focus on bettering your own product and more people will choose to buy it. 😀

      • I really don’t get this hatred against bloggers. This Big Brain person must have had some awful experience, or just isn’t selling much, except to hear them tell it, they do just fine. So not sure where this animosity to bloggers comes from, but sounds like there’s enough anger and hatred to go around from them, anyway. Bloggers are just today’s target. I’m not a creator/designer or blogger, but I can appreciate the effort that goes into both. If blogging didn’t generate any interest or revenue, why the hell are there so many of them? Why do certain stores have select people blogging for them? No, not every person who calls themselves a blogger is good, but for that matter, nor is every designer.

      • You make a valid point about the free giveaway fatpacks, but your message is getting lost in your dickish complaining about everything else. This entire thread, every single post you’ve responded to, you just go further and further away from your initial point by complaining about bloggers and Uwu babygirls and fat assed whores etc. etc. You’re right that nobody should require you to give away your creations, and nobody should require you to use bloggers, for that matter. But by attacking all bloggers, you’re just ensuring that nobody will care about that and will only focus on your unjustified anger and rudeness.

    • Mewsery is a big one she is a stuck up cunt and never does blogger searches, she also likes to block people and talk shit all the time, then plays victim.

    • You first. Name yourself and your blog. You spend “a great deal” monthly for your blog. Why? Because you choose to and you obviously have spare cash to throw around. Stop pretending you’re in some kind of charitable/service industry without which the creators of SL would fail and end up as virtual panhandlers on the streets.

  32. 23. It is no secret that Bully-sserian Citizens is the most toxic clique on SecondLife. There is no other group inworld that can roleplay Mean Girls better. If you thought the RP communities being posted in here were sickening, just join the Bellisseria Citizens group and observe the group chat especially during PST hours, or peek into their sub-forum (Linden Homes) in the official SecondLife community forums. The group mods and the “inner elite” are as evil and two-faced as Regina George and almost every active member who chats and shows their fugly ass up on a high horse at Bully-sseria Events are either insecure ass-kissing stuck-up bitches like Gretchen Wieners, or just a dumb and vapid Karen like Karen Smith. I want to quote Janis Ian by saying “beware of the plastics,” but it is not only the plastics you need to watch out for here. There is a reason why many premium homeowners left or would just rather not associate with that group. I am astonished that VS is overflowing with toxic sludge from RP communities every week when there has been so much tea in Bellisseria since 2019…

      • I hadn’t seen that before but wow. They blame the community for their lack of clarity and consistency, and then completely ignore that they actually set up an out of theme HQ for the stupid BBB. And then Patch just locks it with no comment.

        At this point it feels like stuff isn’t getting better unless Abnor and Patch have more accountability as well. But I don’t see that happening.

    • Agreed. And they have their heads so far up the Linden and Mole poopchutes that it seems like they’re just permenantly going to be the face of Bellisseria which sucks. They use their influence to discredit every other group and it’s ridiculous. I’ve tried coming in with alts a few times just to see if I’m treated differently. They all talk down to the new people as if they’re unworthy, and if you dare try to change a topic or criticize in any way it’s an instant attack if not outright banning. Not to mention Dreamer uses the group as just a big advertisement for her crappy blog. I miss Bellisseria before they were the only group allowed.

      • I came back to playing SL after a 10 year hiatus at the time when Bellisseria was released and premium name changes were offered. Thought it was a lovely new start and it sure was for a few months until I joined the group and started appearing in their parties. At first they seemed sweet and welcoming at face value but over time the de facto leaders and core members gave off snobby and disingenious vibes, and every time someone outside their clique started a conversation or a polite question in the group chat they were lowkey snarky and condescending and at times hostile. It was so offputting I had to turn off the group chat for a while because of that. A year later I finally got sick of Bellisseria and left. Never been happier!

    1. You do know is absolutely no way to rig hair for every body and tit size right? Because the variation of weighting and rigging for the bodies vs SL frame is so far fetched on some and literally too many bodies with all different. You are kind of a moron. Dont support bullshit bodies with fucked up rigging and wont be an issue

  34. 24.

    A couple of things on this one. First, I can see why creators would send stuff to certain bloggers for promotion. Some bloggers take amazing photos and get a lot of attention on their posts.

    Second though, I didn’t know some events required creators to give their stuff away to event bloggers for free. That is kinda messed up.

    • I have no freaking clue how events work, but if the event has bloggers i can understand why they request the stuff to be sent to bloggers, after all they will promote the event and with that promote everyone in it… I do not go to events very often but when i want to get something that is in a specific event i always end up looking around and finding a few more stuff i like.

      Good bloggers are worth having! A lot of people look at bloggers work to shop, some because have no time to hunt for stuff, others because they need help creating a cool look, i do not see why all this hate over bloggers when they are providing a service not only to stores by advetising their stuff but to the people who follow them.

      • I definitely agree that good bloggers are worth it, and I didn’t give hate to bloggers at all in my post. It’s just messed up for events to force creators to give their items to bloggers. That isn’t something that should be forced, if a creator would rather not work with bloggers or would rather work with their own bloggers, that should be their choice.

      • I don’t really know how that works and yes it should be optional, but on the other hand if they advertise the event no matter who’s stuff is, it is always reaching out potential buyers to everyone in that event, usually people do not go to events to buy a thing or 2 they saw on a blog and go away without looking around.

      • That’s why i dont really understand the point of bitching about! I guess someone just woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to bitch about the 1st thing that came to mind.  🙄 

    • I know of a couple of events that require free blog packs. They also don’t assign bloggers to stores or ask that the bloggers even show off the stuff they take, so bloggers have entirely free reign to just go around and take everything on offer and only show one or two items during the entire event, meanwhile the admins of the event have effectively banned the creators from complaining about it lol. The bloggers also have a favoritism issue and will repeatedly show off the same people and items multiple times, and some creators don’t get blogged during the event at all. It’s pretty bad.

      • Events may require that creators give their items to the bloggers because those bloggers have requirements that have to be met. In many cases events require bloggers to do 2-4 blog posts a month and blog a minimum amount of creators, which I assure you is FAR more than 1-2 items. Most bloggers that make it into large events are typically the best of the best and have proven themselves over years of work. They aren’t showing favoritism, it’s more than likely their particular style, whether a creator stays within the preferred theme if there is one and if they find the items to meet their own personal standards. It’s a lot of work and very time consuming to be a good blogger. Those that don’t know exactly what us bloggers do think its just snapping pics, but there is far more time that goes into it.

      • omfg a whole 2-4 pictures a MONTH!! Gee I had no idea bloggers had it so hard!

        And here I thought MY job of fully meshing, rigging and texturing clothes for SL and fitting those to several bodies all by myself was hard! Oh, if only I knew the STRUGGLE of taking a few pictures. Poor bloggers. We must give them ALL the free fatpacks, so sad.

      • Are you in only one event per month? No? Well, neither are bloggers. Most bloggers have multiple sponsors plus events, which means an average blogger needs to prepare at least 2-3 photos per week. My brand participates in very few events, and we always get blogged multiple times… maybe your items just aren’t good and they don’t get picked, who knows.

      • As others have said, if you don’t want to send your oh so wonderful fatpacks to bloggers than don’t join those events. The bloggers honestly do not care, they will blog the items from the people who are there. You really have a crazy odd hatred towards bloggers. Weird.

      • All these salty af ‘bloggers’ desperately trying to cover their ass by responding to EVERY critical comment with a wall of text is HILAR and ironically makes them seem cringier than before.

      • I can’t really comment on the bulk of events that require blog packs, I’m specifically talking about two events that I’m familiar with. I can promise that the bloggers at these events are not “the best of the best,” many of them don’t have much of a following and I’ve seen a blogger at one of the events throw t-posing avatars and unworn clothes (not flattened, just floating around) in their pictures. There is no minimum quota for them to meet for these events as far as I’m aware, there’s seemingly no standards for the bloggers at these events at all. I’ve seen them pass over items like eyes and accessories, things that are fairly easy to integrate into pictures, in favor of repeatedly showing items (with the same style and theme) from people they like more.
        The real issue I’ve heard from creators in these events is that if they’re not going to get blogged anyway because the bloggers have a bit of a monoculture going on and their style isn’t compatible, they’d rather not have to bother with putting in more work into putting together a blog pack on top of all the other prep for the event. The point isn’t creators wanting to force bloggers to show off their stuff, they just want to not have as much work then they get very little or nothing back for it. They could be getting some extra rest or spending the effort on their next project instead.

      • Sounds very much like an event I was looking at, but chose not to sign up for.
        They wanted a free “blogpack” from me, was MANDATORY as per the rules, and were heavily encouraged to make it our FATPACKS, not even just a small sample. These “Blogpacks” are given to ALL the bloggers, regardless if they are actually, actively blogging for the event, or show interest in the product.

        The only “blogging” I saw was a few twitter posts from a handful of people, who only showcased the same 2-3 creator’s items. Sooo, yeah. Not doing that.

  35. #18- I don’t really see the issue with this, especially if they’re a store that makes their own mesh. Are you really that desperate to have the same outfit for multiple bodies?
    #48- If you’re gonna make a secret about what someone’s saying, don’t blur out what they said??
    #51- It’s the same style but obviously different mesh if you actually look for more than two seconds.

    • I agree with you on #48 and #51, but I will say that, about #18, as someone that owns different bodies and likes to use different bodies for different characters, it is kind of annoying that Violent Seduction does that. Would much rather buy things for more than one body and have to buy different colors separately than having to buy one for each color and for each body.

      • I agree with you on #18 – this is nothing more than VS going for a money grab on the weekend sale. And as cute as the shorts were and I would have spent then $100 to buy both colors – the sale was lost because I will not reward for making us spend the money on each body type. We need to stop that trend today!

        AND btw, it’s not just that trend that I abhor with the weekend sales. Other shady ways is things like selling the bra and panties separate with lingerie (looking at you Ricielli and Dhoma) or Selling each makeup individually in the set (that’s you IDTTY).

        The real heros for weekend sales would be stores like GOS and Ison – which is why I tend to buy everything they put out on weekend sales. Gos never EVER puts their event shoes on weekend sales (don’t you hate buying something at an event full price only to see it on a weekend sale 2 months later!). GOS instead puts out special colors for some of their latest styles. As someone who has just about everything GOS – their weekend sales colors are just as fabulous as their full price colors. This is why GOS shoes are the Christian Louboutin shoes of Second Life.

        As for Ison – they may only put 1 or 2 of their products on sale for weekend sales but if you really like the product you can also get the fatpack for an awesome discounted price. And Ison quality is top of the the line!

      • Hi! Iki here
        This doesn’t really change the profit margin, people tend to just choose for the body they want to wear it with. All this does is give me valuable and accurate data that shows where people are actually spending their money rather than relying on an unpacker that could give data that is less accurate.

        I can also individually see if customers are purchasing for multiple bodies at the same time and the answer is they are a -very- small minority. Most customers purchase in a linear fashion (Maitreya to Legacy to/sometimes Reborn) along with the newer releases. Customers in the large majority only purchase for the body they are currently wearing.
        I would have changed this long ago if I saw people purchasing for multiple bodies regularly. This pattern has not changed since Belleza was popular. For context I have been selling via body pack for at least 5 years.

        As for this being a “Money Grab” – I have always lowered the price of the single packs and I do 1000L fatpacks at every event -including- all bodies to offset any profit I may receive from this.
        Unfortunately since this was a sale set to 50L each. The price was already lowered, I can’t go lower for you.

        If I had all bodies in the same pack I’d have to reflect that in the price and raise the single prices to around 350L each or more to meet the prices of others. Obviously I haven’t done that. Where is the money grab with this context?
        I don’t think this is actually right to accuse someone of something that just clearly isn’t true. 

        Lastly I want to also point out that in the beginning Violent Seduction priced a single dress at 650L and that was considered normal back in the day. They are now 250L each for an entire outfit (With stockings in some cases). Undercutting of the market has forced people to become more creative in how they present their products and this is how I have chosen to present mine. We are constantly taking a loss to compete even if it means not putting food on the table for some people.

        Does that sit right with you as a human being? Do you not think creators deserve to be paid a living wage? 
        According to Phillip Rosedale, only 1600 people in SL earn over $10000 a year on a sliding expotential scale so you’re literally expecting and demanding a majority of people on minimum wage to work harder and for free for your benefit. It’s not right. You wouldn’t tell a waitress to quit and get a real job or work for less tips if they were struggling. For some reason it’s absolutely fine to do that here. Why?

      • No, I don’t give a shit when things I paid full price for go on sale, and the entire concept of being mad about that is baffling to me. Can you explain why it bothers you? I honestly can’t think of a single reason for it, and apparently it’s a widespread problem to the point where creators actually face backlash when they offer sales, people having the audacity to complain to them about previous purchases they made by their own free choice. It’s a good thing I hate making meshes, because anyone who said some dumb shit like that to me would get banned from my store. If you’re so envious of people who get a deal, stop paying full price for anything, then you’ll always be that guy.

    • #51 – Same style different mesh? Are you high? The only difference is in the cup of the bikini top. You can’t make one little change and claim it to be ORIGINAL MESH.

      • Actually, you can. You can get as close as possible to someone else’s mesh, and if you still completely modeled and rigged it yourself, it’s still your “original mesh”. In this context, “original” doesn’t mean “unique”, only that it’s not a full perm mesh anyone can buy and texture. Even purchased meshes can qualify as “original” as long as those exact models haven’t been sold to another SL creator previously.

  36. 13.-16. Not surprised. I heard that Riot is a closed minded racist asshole anyways and Ken Lee..likes to spin shit and make drama about him, and claims it as DEFENDING FRENSSSSSSSSSS. From what I read on FB he spun it to DONT CANCEL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE EGGS OR FIND SOMETHING TASTY instead of the the blatant disrespect. Two incels if you ask me (yes i know, no one did) and the people who found his mediocre insults laughable. Just disgusting.

    • “I heard that” – You can make up shit about anyone like this. And I didn’t even said anything about the food, so I didn’t spin it in any way. My point was about dumb people overreacting about some food. But here it is: That food did look disgusting and you can kiss my ass. Stay mad and dumb 🙂 I love reading these comments!

  37. #3 And the thing about 511 is there is a AFK checker every 30 mins that asks if you are active or it boots you, some people really do live there literally.

    • And they used to do it at the Chamber, Teqi’s, every other busy place in SL and always have. There’s always one idiot coming in and shouting about bots in local but that’s always been the case in all the years I’ve been here.

      I’ve talked to quite a few people the times I’ve been there. All very much there and wanting to chat.

  38. #44You nailed it on the head but let’s not forget how many dump sweatpants, tank tops and tiger tattoos us guys get to peruse thru.

    • Exactly! I don’t mind so much that there are some unisex things at the “men only” kind of sales, but if that’s the market they are actually targeting, then don’t have anything exclusively for women. Things like earrings, tattoos, or eyes that can go for either is fine with me. I’d say what really bothers me more is the absolute lack of any variety. I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen three different events for men in a month where each had multiple options for sweatpants, graphic t-shirts, beards that look like every other beard that came before, tattoos that look like they were generated by an AI bent on covering every inch of skin it can, and poses that look 96.7% like every pose that same creator has ever made! I know men’s fashions are not as diverse as women’s, and there are some creators out there trying hard to change that, but we need more. It’s like the old baseball movie said, “If you build it, they will come”.

  39. #2 Are you Chobii’s hater from last week?  😂  😂 

    • Yes, so decided to take the piss out of it. Like if everyone thinks I’m guilty might as well be guilty.

      I have reached supreme cringe. Time for the comment meltdown. I’m still here. Laughing.

      • I don’t try to cover my tracks. I made it as obvious as can be it was me. None of this is so deep I need to hide my identity or which ones are mine. I’m just here to have a laugh. This place is a riot! Some people take this so seriously. You can feel it in their aggressive comments.

      • I agree with you on that! Well is nice to see you moved on, you know some people does not deserve any attention at all and it seemed the case. A big squeezy hug for you!  😘 

      • Hah. Just figured I’d change the name! LOL. And nah. I found it pretty hilarious she actually posted last week and got like two downvotes of notice. Still, even the outrage at Chobii posts was amusing.

        I still laugh though. People are so aggressive here about their pixel universes. SL used to be mine. Now I just laugh with other some other ex players.

      • Glad you rectified yourself. The Chobii posts were a bit too much for me, but the meltdowns and the outrage you incited in the responses were unbelievably hilarious I wanted to convince myself that the people replying were also just playing along. I enjoyed. Thank you!

      • Hah. Those who lost their stores and blogs like my friends did have every reason to be angry. When you have someone playing out of context theater with logs and sabotaging your networks of events and friends, you lose a lot. A lot. Some never returned after they were fucked with. I miss those people. We were shy, new to the world, but we had each other’s backs until her.

        And I promise you, they were not all posted by one person. The first week it happened I didn’t even post one. This just is to show that multiple people have the same story.

        I had no idea Chobii was gonna be such a clusterfuck or hot-button issue when I posted my two. If I had, I would have backed off. Cause it was overkill, but so was the outrage at our outrage was overkill.

        Then again, the meltdown was gloriously entertaining. But hopefully it’s behind us. People know now. What they chose to do or believe is up to them. It’s handled as far as I’m concerned. Just her name seems to annoy people.

      • Glad to see you have moved on. Could not reply to the other comments you made on last week’s VS. Ngl, the VS is quite funny and I don’t take offence. Just glad to see chobii posts are buried tho. Take care 🙂

      • Just chill on the aggression. I told you I’d get bored. 😂

  40. #26 4$ and you think you are paying too much? Bitch please if the quality followed the price then we would all be wearing flexies.  🙄 

    • Literally don’t understand how people complain about Doux’s prices. Buncha cheapskates.

      • I remember when a hair fatpack was over 1000L WITHOUT styling options… so honestly i find this post just lame… As much as for those who think meshers are machines and have to rig for every size available in SL.  🙄 

  41. #24 Do you even know if any of those bloggers took your stuff? I have a bunch of blogger friends and they only blog what they like which is reasonable since non of them is getting paid to do what they do. Since you are complaining no one blogs your stuff perhaps the issue is what you make? Make it more likeable and i am sure whatever bloggers issue you have will go away.  😂   😂 

    • It’s not about whether or not they pick it up, it’s about events that REQUIRE you to give out free stuff to “Bloggers.” Most advertisment comes from word of mouth, or the event’s social media. Not Flickr/Twitter thots who have no talent beyond being a walking product placement.

      I don’t care if “Bloggers” advertise my shit or not because I don’t need them. I do just fine with my normal methods. And if I DO need someone to take pics for me…? Well I will ask my friends & good pic takers who I know, rely on, and trust. Simple. Why then, would I put my free fatpacks up for grabs to a people I don’t know and can’t rely on?

      It’s one thing if it’s optional but if it’s mandatory… yikes, no. Miss me with that. Creators already pay fees to get into events. Any event that says it’s required to have a free blogger pack or blogger sample, I don’t do. Simple as that. If the ahegao-faced, jailbait, blogger thots want my clothes? They can pay for it like anyone else.

      • I highly doubt they want your fugly ass merchandise at the rate you’re bitching about it  😂 

      • They probably don’t; not because it’s “fugly” but because I don’t cater to the ugly botox babygirl uwu blogger aesthetic. Lol.

      • You sure have issues, but they are your issues so stop blaming others for it.

      • See, that is what worries me. My style is the polar opposite of what you describe as “botox babygirl uwu” and I would really REALLY want to avoid your store like it’s the plague. I think I might hop into random IMs asking if you hire bloggers just so I can identify you, just to avoid accidentally buying something from you.

      • Please please share which store you are so I know who never ever to shop at. You sound like a absolute tool, I’d get off your high freaking horse.

        You are a little fish in a very VERY big pond, you rely on word of mouth, people browsing Flickr, Instragram, Facebook. A good majority of the items I do buy I see other bloggers wearing them.

        Bloggers don’t do shit for free, I am a blogger myself I work freaking hard to showcase products, it isn’t just ‘taking a pic’ it’s putting together a whole look, finding the right pose and background, using the perfect windlight and shadows before even stepping into Photoshop to fine tune bits and pieces. Don’t even get me started on what I pay in subs and fees each month for programs and tools.

        Honestly this whole things screams waaaa waaa waaa people ain’t buying my products let’s blame bloggers when probably it’s the fact your products are fucking shit.

      • TL;DR, nah I’m not sharing my store name, but don’t worry about it. I make stuff that doesn’t appeal to generic Flickr thots with childlike faces, botox lips, and babygirl uwu aesthetics. Just keep begging for freebies from other creators, right?

      • That’s cute you think I shop at just those types of places. I happen to like a wide variety of stores but that’s cool. I don’t particularly want to shop at your store and probably wouldn’t anyway after all this is just your jealousy talking isn’t it.

      • This is exactly what I wanted to say. I wanna know if I follow this twat so I can unfollow lol

      • Why? Why are you so upset a creator doesn’t want to give out a freebie pack to strangers with no guarantee they will blog it? They spent the hours making the product. The trade should be fair value, and those who don’t blog it, other creators in the group, owners, etc. aren’t fair value.

        Bloggers aren’t the entire SL market. And the good ones are few and far between.

      • It’s not that I’m upset they don’t want to give items to us, It’s the way this person talks about us like we are just freebie hunting everything, I work very hard on each of my blog posts each can take me hours to do, never mind money we spend to help promote things.

        Also makes me wonder which events she’s in cause honestly I’ve come across very very few events that require every store to add blogger packs, most the bigger events do not and if they did well they have systems in place. A couple send each blogger a list of stores that they have to blog so every store gets equal coverage or some events require a certain amount of stores to be covered in a post or in total, heck some keep track on what people take n if you take lot’s but don’t blog you’ll be removed and black listed.

        Plus let’s not forget these events the people that run them know each other, hell some of them manage multiple events so they keep track of who’s applied n done what before it’d not be hard for a blogger to be black listed if they don’t pull their weight.

        So yeah makes you women what events they are in to be so put out about the whole thing.

      • I get you’re upset but it is one creator’s viewpoint in an ocean of other creators who value your work. Regardless if you feel insulted, they are entitled to their opinion just like you are.

        There is another side of this. For all the effort you do, there’s also ones who don’t put in the same effort. They throw it into a phone editor and use that for a 10 minute touch up. Throw on some vivid blur and you’re golden.

        Not to mention the people who get the packs aren’t always bloggers. When it comes to group packs, as in SL’s group notices, they can’t just send it to bloggers. Everyone gets it. Other creators, event organizers, chat moderators, friends of the group, etc. There is also no guarantee they are getting coverage for that many free copies being thrown out.

        Just be mindful there’s three sides to a story. Your truth, their truth, and the middle ground and they are all valid.

      • EXACTLY.

        I spend a lot of time on meshing, rigging, and texturing clothes for SL. It’s not easy. It’s really tedious at times, and takes a lot of patience.

        Not to mention, I’m ONE person working alone. I don’t have a “team” like bigger stores might. I do all the content creation, I do most of my own ad pics (occasionally reach out to people I know and trust if I need additional pics), I do my own CSR. All me. And I do it all the time, every week, I’m always making something new.

        So why the fuck should I be REQUIRED to give my stuff out for free, to strangers who won’t even be guaranteed to do advertisement for me? And who says I need that advertisement anyway, I’ve been doing just fine by doing regular events & marketplace sales. If I ever needed someone to take pics or promo me, then I’d pick someone MYSELF and It’d be someone I trust.

      • That is entirely fair. No one is entitled to your works. I think you’re getting a lot of downvotes because your viewpoint is a threat to current blogger existence.

        It is up to you to decide what is and isn’t fair trade and a lot of these events don’t limit blogger packs to just bloggers. Other store owners, event organizers, and sometimes their friends will have access to those packs. Many creator friends bragged they also got their packs back in the day I blogged.

        Until there’s more accountability and a guarantee you’re going to get the coverage from people who got the pack, I see entirely why you’d be upset. People don’t want to see the other side of it.

        Yes, many bloggers work hard but there’s also the ones who just throw filters and textures and vivid blur or whatever else on their photos which takes 10 minutes. And that’s not a fair trade of effort and work.

      • I agree with you 100% on this. THIS entire post is what majority of us do. I know for a FACT that within my circle we have to go around and buy the rest to complete the rest of the look for some sort of tacky ass item or mediocre item we don’t want to blog or FORCE to blog because it didn’t get exposure.

        Whoever wrote this probably someone who is constantly in events and their products suck and don’t get exposure and they need to look at their items and think. Is it my textures? Mesh? Ads? How I market? That’s one thing people don’t do anymore critique because mother fuckers can’t handle critiques anymore. If your product fucking sucks IT SUCKS period, regardless we end up deleting garbage ass items anyways so!

        And if you put in the blogger room it’s up to the bloggers themselves to blog your item. Rather it fits our style, theme, or if we get too it. AND YOU DESIGNERS don’t like how some of us take our photos! You don’t like how we mix and match pieces of your clothing or you let other popular bloggers get away with things while others can’t. So you play favoritism.

        If the event have a blogger room I am sorry to say I am entitled to EVERYTHING in that room. It’s a privilege of being their event blogger. I am not just going to take this or that I am taking it ALL rather I blog it or not because I will use it in the future or I’ll use it in a few days. I’m not going to keep coming back and forth to this box.

        So don’t be mad at us when it comes to how we blog and how events run their shit, y’all need to be mad at y’all mother fucking selves at times and question.

      • Here we go another desperate wall of text. Stop acting like you’re curing cancer or constructing a skyscraper. Holy shit. ‘screams waaaa waaa waaa’ Kind of sums up EVERY overly-defensive response you’ve posted here ROFL.

      • actually, most sales these days come from FB, Flickr etc and sharing across platforms. Also comes from advertisement of these products by events etc in guess what same platforms and guess how they do the advertising? they use blogger photos from the free stuff given out .. honestly does like you got a shitty store with no real income in it ..

      • I have to agree you shouldn’t be forced to give out blogger packs. Just throw them maybe one textured item just for the potential for promotion. Bloggers for events do bring in people. So many bloggers compete with each other on who’s the biggest diva and that brings in the people. Sometimes the controversy is the views.

        Still, Second Life is mostly influenced by social circles and bloggers are a social circle. The selected few who do not get to blog the event but wanna be current-pretty will have to go buy. That’s your target. So, throw the bloggers one or two small items or even small accessories and go from there.

        Still, those blogger group packs don’t only go to bloggers. Other creators in that group have, will, and can grab every pack posted and often brag about it. Even non-bloggers usually get the pack if they are in the event group and that alone is shitty.

      • I don’t know what reality you live in but that’s not true at all. Any time I find out about an event, it’s 9/10 going to be from Flickr first if not inworld ads. I blog for stores on my own time just for fun and run a store and though I’m not active with either anymore due to RL, I can say from experience that a majority of people would sooner flock to Flickr instead of going to a website to read a whole post. Flickr, fb and various others are essential for getting word out there about your store.

    • “I have a bunch of blogger friends and they only blog what they like which is reasonable since non of them is getting paid to do what they do.”

      Correction, bloggers get paid by having access to pretty much EVERY exclusive item (Usually the fatpack) being sold at an event. Sure, it isn’t Linden…but don’t say they don’t get paid.

      It’s the same for having “bloggers” for a store…. we don’t actually pay them Linden to blog our items, but they get all of our releases.

      • will you get stuff you dont like just because it is free? Waste of time to clean up later.
        I am pretty sure if stores use blogotex thats not how things work, you actually have to blog what you take otherwise at some point you can not take any more stuff without blogging those you already took. Still free advertising because you give to make money. You only pay the upload of your stuff once, and you have unlimited copies of it, in RL people actually have to pay for all the materials and there are no such thing as unlimited copies. So quit crying because they don’t owe you shit, they advertise you for free the least you can do is provide what you want to have advertised.  😡 

  42. #3 Right! It’s okay to have fun once in a while, and we’re all here for that experience. But please, take a shower and go outside to breathe some fresh air.

    #11 Hasn’t she been caught stealing and modifying meshes from others? I’ve heard some stories about Saskia.

    #12 I observed the drama in the last post, and the authority must be taken after that. Hoping for somebody’s DEATH after stealing something from them? GO OUTSIDE AND TOUCH SOME GRASS and… SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT WITH A PSYCHIATRIST!!!  😤 

    #15 The food did look gross… I’m sorry.

    #26 Why you’re complaining when you could go to a different hair brand? At this point, you are just complaining because you’re bored.

    #36 Wtf?  😶 

    #41 This is the dumbest one besides the Flexi hair post. What’s the coincidence? A heart behind their logos? Oh wow yeah, straight up the same and hasn’t been done before by multiple brands.  🙄 

    • #41 das the point sis, lory complains about the dumbest things you can imagine sayin other stores copied her and loves to say it was already been done before “by her” and tryna act like shes this super original inovative brand. i dont think this secret was to say she copy >this< store specificaly (cuz shes always copyin others ideas n copybotting them as well) but to point out her hypocrysy, she dumb af

      #12 oh and no one stole from her besides dat serena girl and raonhausomething, n they was not the ones who made posts exposin lorys threats, dat was lidia dallas n louise dernier. dont think for a second lory is a victim here cuz shes been doin this same shit with other brands for years n years. she probably manufactured this secret tbh, das right up her alley

      • Why do you type precisely like the person who posted the secret? LMAO girl…  🙄 

      • not putting the g in the end? that’s not the same as typying the same, lol. calm down lory trashgrau

  43. Bloggers are just a bunch of freebie hunters. Just call them what they are, freebie hunters.

    • Love how the comments are calling people who don’t wanna give freebies to bloggers “entitled”… like expecting freebies isn’t entitled? Lmaoooo.

    • Yeah cause spending 40 bucks a month if not more is freebie hunting, you’d not get very far as a blogger if you were in it just for the freebies.

      • Cry harder, leech. Begone with ye, back to the chamber of uwu daddy’s babygirl uncanny valley Sims models that you crawled out of.

      • If anyone is crying it’s you, getting so overwhelmed and whiny about events n their rules, if you don’t like their rules don’t join the event easy as that.

        Honestly must be applying to shitty events because most big ones don’t have these types of rules and certainly don’t require every designers to load up a blog pack.

      • I just wanted to thank you for providing support for the theory that if someone claims they’re brilliant, they’re actually stuck on mediocre. If you were truly smart, you’d realize your insults are weak and go do something better with your time. Like organizing your sock drawer. Remember, the tube socks go in the corner closest to your bed.

        PS: I’ll be kind to you one more time. I don’t blog. I don’t have any close friends who do in the manner being discussed, either. Now you get to decide if I’m lying or have different motives for this comment. Cheers.

      • TL;DR

        It’s summer, bitch, you gotta be insane to be wearing socks at this time of year.
        Unless you have a thing for sweaty feet.
        Do you?

      • LOL maybe you should spend less time bitching about bloggers and more time learning to make better products, want me to send you my mesher? hahahaha

  44. the overwhelming joy of seeing vtech die out, i only ever see it by pedos and hyper feme dramawhores that bitch and moan about not having clothing.

    making clothes takes a long time and having to convert a mesh from a female version and mutilated it into a male version is unreasonable and the sheer entitlement i see all over sl related discords from gayboi rpers is disgusting.

    • “Male avatars who want to be slim & not a beefy gym jock are pedos”
      Wtf lol. You’re retarded.

      Sounds like you’re just mad because not everyone wants to have a bimbo female av. Sorry that not everyone wants to be your wank material.

  45. To all the complainers of all the community RP sims… These people create a space for YOU to come roleplay. It is expected that you actually roleplay. Sitting there bitching that people don’t include you because you are huddling in a corner and not saying anything beyond a hello… come on. It’s not a sims responsibility to drag you out of your antisocial behavior and into the world of speaking. If you want RP, create some. Want to talk to people, start a conversation. Airing your personal woes here will get you nothing, but some weird satisfaction that the people who worked hard on the sims and events are hurt by your comments. Which says a lot more about you than it does about them.

    You think it’s cliquey because people found other people to talk to on a regular basis, and who actually make an effort to RP with them when they are around. They talk to each other to fill the space left by all those standing around saying nothing in the hope you will join in. A clique is defined as “a small group of people, with shared interests or other features in common, who spend time together and do not readily allow others to join them.” I bet if you made an effort everyone else would too, it’s not that hard. If someone actually snubbed you after you made a genuine effort, I can understand. But don’t expect things to be served on a silver platter.

    Think you can do better? Join the staff and help out.

    Before you even go there no, I am not a sim owner or in the events team. Just tired of people’s entitlement over those who try their best.

    • The problem is that people in new haven DO try. They get snubbed by katry brittni and the others. then when they DO try tojoin depts and staff they get a bunch of people who don’t care about them. it’s one thing to get upset by the posts totally understand that but 9/10 people who post here have tried but get the same lame treatment. its to warn people against getting their feeling hurt by a bunch of losers. bottom line is if you’re not trying to kiss some ass or fuck someone (apparently saige hexem.) you wont be included. at least in CC you get spoken to when you reach out.

      • BS on forcing them to rp, but really, what is the absolute point of renting high priced houses if not for the RP part of it? seriously you can get things so much cheaper if ya just want a house. The town is meant to be there to rp in.

      • Saige here. Though I can fully understand all the issues surrounding the groups of friends in NH that some do, and some don’t allow people in. There is usually a reason behind keeping people out or why they are no longer in said group. All I have to say about that is Not everyone’s going to like everyone and as adults we should all know that. As for Depts and staff, there is a reason why others are picked over some and its usually because they aren’t in places like this crying about not having friends. Finally, as for trying to fuck someone (me) That shit needs to stop. My personal sexcapades are and never should be light to anyone. SOMEONE, may have a big ass mouth for telling all of the sl world that we boned but that dosnt mean I’m fucking everyone. Duces.

      • Agreed. You get very snubbed. I’m confused on how someone (Kat) can say she does not roleplay but then hold a head position in a department. Is that because she is partnered to the sim owner? All of them are related in some way or form they are either family or fucking. They are not open to roleplaying with others. They stay in their little clique and snub everyone else out unless your the owners, then they will kiss your ass. Or fuck you in Kat’s case. People are tired of trying and getting pushed aside for losers. They have spoken up about it and it fell on deaf ears and now they are posting it here.

    • TL;DR

      Most RP sims and their admins are degenerate cringe.
      I respect those that actually do try hard to make a place for real RP… but those are few and far betwene. Lmfao.

      • Most of the ones who host RP sims are not providing a service to anyone but their friends and their own interests. Look at any RP community, and a small crowd gets all the attention with minimal effort, while the ones who try hard get a side eye and often ignored.

        I’ve seen this in every RP community and I’ve roleplayed on and off for over 20 years. Communities come and they go because the people in power give all the good roles and power to a select power hungry few.

    • There is nothing Rpers hate to hear more than the calling out of their own bullshit. And that’s coming from an avid roleplayer who’s watched good sims utterly destroyed by this attitude. The people who have spent so much time and real life money to entertain you do not also owe you their free time. They don’t owe you their friendship either.

    • Exactly right. If people are bored at an RP sim, it’s mostly their own lack of imagination. Nowadays, everyone seems mindless and only seek to be entertained by the efforts of others, then they try to criticize. If you can do better, do better. Instead of leeching off others, try to generate RP on the sim, create for others, instead of only relying on others to create for you.

    • This is it to an extent. A lot of people that walk around on rp sims are the “Notice Me” type and want people to come to them to start a rp. Everyone wants to be in the spotlight, the victim, the hero, the cool one and on and on. Though there are a ton of sims that people just sit in their houses and everyone’s like why not rp instead.

      Just because YOU are out looking for rp, doesn’t mean everyone else is at that time. A lot of people go afk in their sl homes to rl and come back later rather than logging out. So pull up the map and find clumps of people, then go where they are if it’s a public space and intermingle.

      Yeah there are rp sims in sl that have stuck up admins and one’s who think it’s their way or the highway. It’s a shitty way to be, but not all are like that. All in all, like the OP says, a place is being provided for people to rp free of charge if roleplayers just follow the rules. Admins cannot go out and force people to rp with everyone, so just find it where you can.

      Last time I checked it’s still an option to open your own sim and try to run a place. It’s not easy and sl ain’t a full time job like some of you people think. All you can do is realize going to a sim is like going to someone’s house. You don’t own it, so come by and try to have some fun. If you don’t, then check the next place or keep trying at it.

      People in sl are shy as fuck, and sometimes they want to rp, but don’t know how to start one. You’ll see two people who want to rp avoid one another, just because they both don’t know how to start it. Hell, it’s why people are in sl…because being in rl gives them anxiety and it’s easier here, but still tough.

      What’s hard is when you find a community you like and it’s several sims, yet barely has any traffic. It’s really tough then to even find someone to say hi back, let alone roleplay with. On rp sims, you’re going to have a few good roleplayers, a lot of average ones, and a few shit ones. Take what you can get or keep searching until you find a place to call home.

      Most people don’t stay in a community for more than a few months anyways due to drama, disagreements, breakups, and whatever else. You have to remember it’s roleplay in second life, relax and go with the flow then try not to get offended so much. There is no -one- community fix-all for anyone. Search places out and test them, you’ll find something one day that suits you, but they never suit someone 100%.

      There’s always going to be issues, things you think could be better, drama, and all the fun!

      • Mighty big talk for a keyboard warrior. How about this, The roleplay in New Haven isnt there, everytime you turn around all you see is an ad for this club called Coyote Ugly. Sounds pretty Unoriginal if you ask me. Then there is almost event after event at that place, Can you seriously not use other places but just that one place? As for Roleplay, I have walked around New Haven and tried to roleplay, I got a bunch of people standing in their house with their thumb up their asses. Make roleplay how you want? Honey I am a multiparagraph Roleplayer, I can make a whole scene all by my damn self. But its not about making a scene with yourself, its about making a story with others.
        What gets me the most? These four posts about New Haven go out and the next damn day, they are now doing roleplay classes. So its true that people dont roleplay and now you have to cover that up with a class? And its being taught by the sim owner, Good Job for at least trying to get people to come out. Might want to have your little helper, go back to her club and teach her “husband” to roleplay and come out of that club. He just stands around and doesnt do anything either. A little too late darling.

        Ive seen that the high ups dont do anything with others. All you hear about is Katya, Brittni and Zara or Nat doing something all together. No one really gives a shit people, we dont care what you all do. Katya admits she cant roleplay worth a shit. Brittni ran the hospital down to the ground and there is absolutely no roleplay there, and the courts? They are so far behind its not funny. But its a wonderful place to be a neighbor? Get your head out of your ass, wake up and see that New Haven will fall apart just like Woodland did and Fox Swallow, I mean hollow. And all those high ups just worry about a title and dont do any work. If they did work, there would be more Roleplay. Lead by example dont ya think?

    • New Haven, when it started, was a beautiful concept, and a lot more fun. It -is- cliquey to an extent, but it’s also a lot of other things. The sim owners went into the idea of New Haven as a community run group.. but it’s clearly not that anymore.

      The multitudes of problems that have been going on in this sim are just too numerous to put in this forum. Drama, cliques, backstabbing, no roleplay, the list goes on and on and on.

      “Think you can do better? Join the staff and help out.” Nobody thinks they can do better here. We know nobody can ‘do better.’ SL Roleplay no matter what sort of sim you find yourself in, is in a steady decline. True story telling is a dying art.

      “Just tired of people’s entitlement over those who try their best.” – We get that they’re ‘trying their best’ but they let things go too far. Their ‘second chance’ policy accepting people from places that are clearly drama, clearly problematic is the problem here.

      New Haven is just Woodland 2.0. And Fox Hollow. And CC. And every tried and failed “big sim” with many good ideas but poor execution. The ONLY thing New Haven has going for it is the lack of bigotry and racism we saw in Woodland. That’s sad.

  46. #24 – Seriously? Taking pictures is the definition of what a blogger IS! You must sell so many items that you don’t need the hard work of bloggers promoting you and the extra linden YOU would earn from it. And the point IS that they ARE paying with exposure. They post all over, not just on Flickr. As for Flickr, yes they changed not safe for work to Pro accounts only, BUT the majority of creators make content that wouldn’t need that! Flickr is alive and well. I buy a LOT of my stuff seen on blogs and Flickr. You need to get over yourself and stop being a Diva Creator!

    • Hard work?? Is moving a mouse around and clicking it hard work for you? You truly over-estimate your importance in the world. And in the equation of who is more important – the creator who spends alot of time scripting/meshing/rigging versus ‘oh hey i took some pics and did stuff in photoshop ta da’ which lets face it, you do it for likes/follows/needyness whatever. I have literally never purchased anything from a ‘blog’ – pretty much skip over them in fact because as stated before they are for the most so carbon copy generic mediocre pics ever. Saying that you have like your experience invalidates anyone elses shows you for how entitled YOU actually are – so no matter how hard you’ve tried to paint yourselves as victims and creators as the bad guys in these comments the reverse has happened. And no, I’m not a creator, so you can’t even console yourself with that delusion.

  47. Flexi Hair wearers are hilarious. Thong-hair secret is amusing as hell. But imagine having all this new technology and mesh, and you choose to wear outdated hair that looks and performs like hair after being rubbed on with a balloon,

    • You sound stupid af. Even popular bloggers are wearing flexi hairs. Just like ALL HAIRS..some are good, some are shitty. Grow up.

      • Oh omggg not the BLOGGERS oh yes!!!! I sure do care what some creepy, uncanny valley ahegao-faced bimbo on Flickr/Twitter is wearing and thinks is trendy!!!1111

      • Oh yes. Bloggers. Who put a bunch of work into overpriced pixel Barbies and beg for freebie blogger packs. I should totally put their one-fits-all on a pedestal!

        Most of them all blog the same stuff and copy each other…

      • nah, sorry, just like flexi skirts, it’s outdated, overly complex and horrible looking

    • Not to even mention how shitty it looks around their scalps; it is so bad. When you consider that it’s high-complexity on top of being ugly as fuck, the whole idea comes off as beyond stupid.

    • There’s this whole group of people who honestly believe flexi hair is going to make a come back and replace mesh hair and I just can’t. It’s so bad

    • We all want to move on from 2009 for sure but saying that I bought this amazing afro style for a pic opportunity and it looks amazing in print. In reality though the thing was alive on my avs head like a 1D tentacled monster

      • If the hair is shorter than shoulder length, and dense enough that you can’t see all the flat prims poking out of your scalp, then a flexi hair might look ok- an afro is one of the very few styles that works. I’ve also seen a couple of shorter or updo styles that have a few flexi wisps and those can look ok too. But that’s about the limit of its usefulness.

  48. #9. #22. #37. #38.

    New Haven managers posting about themselves for attention ROFL. The people in NH are not “popular” .. they are rejects from other communities and their alts. That’s the majority. I lived there and it did not live up to expectations. Since we are on the subject of New Haven events.. their events are stolen from other communities.

    • Are you fucking retarded? How does one “steal events from our communities?”

    • >they are rejects from other communities and their alts. 

      New Haven is a wonderful place because it keeps most of the super-problematic folk from World of Darkness sims in one nice little self-contained box that is easy to avoid.

  49. #40 the “no rez” couples poses and huds work just fine if the people using them aren’t complete idiots and know to turn off their AOs, or if the hud doesn’t animate both avatars, one of the people understands they should choose a pose that works in combination with it. Every one of the huds comes with a way to adjust the pose on the X,Y,Z axis, so it’s only the laziest or stupidest people who use them wrong

    • Honestly that post just comes off as super salty, like my reaction was “tell everyone you’re lonely without saying that you’re lonely”. Besides, what kinda noob doesn’t know that animations don’t even display consistently from one user to another? Ctrl-S only refreshes things for the individual user, anything you’re seeing at any time could be different to someone else, as far as being synced up.

      • I would say they just want to experience RL in SL… But without stepping on each other’s foot  😂  😂 

      • Same thoughts. Those couple poser HUDs are heaven-sent for photographers. I was like, “aww that poster must probably have nobody who wants to pose with them in public. How sad!” OR maybe they do not know how to edit and manipulate animations which anyone with an average IQ can do. My friends and I sometimes intentionally misalign the piggyback poser (head buried in crotch) when we are goofing around in public, lol

  50. #10… Are you dumb? Legit half the people on there are OPEN about the fact that they have an alt… It’s not news. Nick, is very open about the fact that he is also Emily (which btw is now Ava.) and Alexi is very open about their alts. Everyone already knows.. Stop tryna stir drama where there is none. Jesus lol

      • Everyone literally has an Alt like tf all those people are open about it, Nick was messing around on his female alt the other night with a bunch of people and nobody had an issue with it, well I guess you did or whoever keeps posting this crap, Also Alexi isnt Nick, they are legit two different people, If Nick is Alexi then he sure does have a super computer to be able to have all those browsers open at once, get real most computers scream at you for having one SL broswer open, Whoever this is needs to move on and stop stirring drama its childish and idiotic and I know you are getting off to the fact people are responding to you cause thats the only way you can get joy out of your day but go harass someone else or do something more productive in SL FFS

      • If you’re not doing anything shady with your alts, you shouldn’t be worried about them being revealed.

      • They aren’t worried. Hence why they are so open about their alts. This is just an attempt (very poor one I might add) at trying to drag them down in the mud where the OP plays.

    • Nick, Emily or Ava, Alexi are the same person. Yeah your boyfriend dates you on one account, is your sister on another account and on yet another account calls you smelly and stinky whenever there’s an audience…..and that’s after you were exposed on secrets for having bad hygiene and dirty feet. Apparently that still leaves them with a lot of accounts to spare to date other woman and men. If I were you, I’d question my self esteem and sit this one out

      • I wouldn’t question my self esteem at all. Especially not because an internet moron tells me to ♥ I wouldn’t suggest being a detective boo, as you are dead wrong.  😂  Continue to sit on the side lines and look like an idiot.  😌 

    • Whoever says they do not own an alt is a liar! EVERYBODY DOES!  🙄 

      • I don’t have an alt. I have 3. LOL! 2 haven’t logged in years though.

      • I have 5 avatars and i use them all! Not every single day ofc it just depends on what i am up to that day!

    • A few of my friends had alts just to make lucky chairs and midnight mania go faster.

      Alts aren’t often malicious. They’re just ways to escape a bunch of attention or to make other things go faster. Not to mention having a second person who doesn’t move around very much for pictures is so much easier than having a real person.

  51. Bloggers do way more than just take a picture.I spend at least 2 hours on each picture I do and spend far more than what your fatpack would of cost in props and stuff. If you were a rl store you’d be paying for advertising,posters,tv time,radio commercials,ect. So why are you so butthurt about giving a blogger your product to provide your business with the same kind of exposure? Sit your self down Karen and check your privilege..nobody likes an entitled creator.

    • It’s different when it’s OPTIONAL versus MANDATORY.
      If a blogger approached me specifically offering advertisment for my stuff in exchange for freebies? Well maybe I’d consider that.

      But events that make you put a “blogger pack” for randoms you don’t know and trust? Nah, fuck that. If I need ad pics taken, I have people I know and rely on to do a good job.

    • your downvoters are people who got their blogotex applications rejected.
      You’re 100% correct. Good bloggers can sell items faster than flickr ad groups and the time, extra parts/props and skill that goes in to a GOOD post more than covers the ‘freebie’

    • Let them blah blah blah… At the end of the day no bloggers would probably want to blog his/her shit anyway  😂  😂  😂 

    • This so much freaking this, it annoys the hell outta me when designers talk like this. Sure bloggers are like a dime a dozen but we do freaking work hard, I spend the same amount of time doing a shot but also the time to actually set up that shot has to be factored in as well. Plus add in the cash we spend on extras and subscriptions lol.

    • If you pay for advertising – you are guaranteed an advertisement. If your advertisement does not run, you get a refund. You’re comparing apples to oranges here – not the same thing.

      They’re butthurt about giving away free items and not getting the exposure they’re supposed to get in kind.

      I read very few SL blogs and I am not a creator – so while none of this really matters to me – I get their frustration.

      • I’d imagine not alot of people read the actual blog more than likely they’ll browse Flickr n see something they like and then look at the blog to see where it’s from, That’s how sales are made vast majority will see that go to the event n end buying more things from that event.

      • As a creator, we do get a lot of sales from event bloggers, especially because events do advertise but it’s the bloggers who make our stuff look good, and the people who see their pic and want to buy it.

  52. #34, Its actually pretty great to see the support the Juicy chest mod is getting from creators, and I would say 99% of anything Juicy fit, has a regular reborn fit as well, so maybe you should actually check before bitching about something that isn’t even the case

    • Yeah, the stuff that I’ve seen as “Juicy only” were really basic tanks, tube tops, and bustiers, things that anyone probably has at least a dozen of in standard boob size already.

  53. #43. Wait what? I haven’t met anyone at OoS who thinks Zoophilia or Beastiality is okay. Did you meet someone who was? 🤮

    • Have you not been in the discord? People are constantly posting bestiality porn and talking about it in there. As well as RPing it inworld. Especially that “Hoss” guy.

      Unless you never check the discord and stay in the “cleaner” areas of the sim I don’t know how you possibly could’ve missed it, lmao

      • Sounds like he should keep pics and stories about his gross horse dick to himself and those who show interest, PRIVATELY, instead of pushing them on the community at large. Yes, that shit is zoophilia, and it’s not like everyone isn’t clear that’s why he would choose to play a centaur.  🙄 

      • Lol I’ve been on OoS for 2 years and, no, there is not “constant bestiality porn” in the discord. And even if there was, it’s a roleplay sim with a lot of focus on sex. If something triggers you, that’s YOUR problem.
        I’ve seen your posts. Your whiney “no one RPs with me or my friends” bullshit. For 1, you don’t have friends, and 2, your childish complaining screams “I’m an immature edgelord that no one wants to be around, but I’m going to blame everyone else for myself being a shitstain”.
        Oh, and by the way, “Hoss” is a better roleplayer and all around human than your self obsessed, narcissistic ass could ever hope to be. Take your sad complaining on out of here. No one believes your self indulged, trivial bullshit.

      • Eeeek. Yeah I don’t use discord. Not after the whole pedophile videos I’ve seen about grown ass men trying to fuck 14 year olds.

    • Granted the place is a thinly-veiled Gor sim that heavily emphasizes sex and people’s fetishes and masquerades as a fantasy RP sim, but I dunno bout all that Beastiality / Zoophilia business.

  54. #24 Bloggers ARE leeches, they exist because spineless stores use them to make themselves look more important than they are. Lets talk Salem or Seka, go to their Flickr page and I promise you that most of their likes are made by their bloggers.

    Ever wondered why stores like that have blogger searches every couple weeks?

    They need to have someone like their posts and walk around in their free shit to make them look popular.

    It’s a mega flex if stores don’t have a shit ton of bloggers and make good shit. As for events, don’t get me started. The worst are the ones in which they make you post your blogger pack in a group. Little do they know that it takes a simple script to expose free loaders or sketchy people in the group.

    Taking a picture of the free shit you got, slapping some terrible filters on it, doesn’t make you an artist or important… it makes you pathetic.

    I can hear the whiny voices in my head already of bloggers trying to defend themselves, but honestly I would rather pay someone that is trained to advertise than be forced to give you free stuff and cringe at your “art” as you pretend to be important.

    Congratulations on being at the bottom of the SL totem pole.

    • Congratulations on knowing absolutely fuck all about bloggers, sure there is the few that do freaking do it to leech of creators. As with everything you’ll always have those bad eggs but the vast majority of us do it because we enjoy it. Sure stores do have searches but I know for a fact Salem holds bloggers searches 2 times a year at most and rotates their bloggers so they have fresh people each time. Stores don’t have the freaking time to be doing searches every few weeks, especially the bigger stores with the amount of apps they’d get. It’d be never ending.

      As for taking pics and slapping filters on stuff obviously you clearly know naff all what a actual decent blogger would do when it comes to a shot. It’s not just snapping a pic and poof done it’s setting up a scene, getting together the correct look, purchasing extra bits and pieces if needed. The you have to set up the bloody windlight and make sure lighting looks good before you even step foot in Photoshop and there are those out there that don’t even do any editing in Photoshop bar the cropping and sizing so everything is correct.

      You sound like another person in SL that is either highly jealous of bloggers or a designer who is so fucking crap at what they do they can’t sell jack shit. Maybe fucking learn more about your trade before you come at us.

    • Totem poles have jack shit to do with rank. Congratulations on repeating bullshit while flinging your feces at people who dare to have fun in a way you disapprove of. Will you be claiming people are on the warpath against you next?

    • Then please feel free to tell that to the creators that randomly give ME stuff to blog for them for upcoming events. I’m not even a proper blogger, I literally just like to shout out stores/products that I love.

  55. #24 Bloggers ARE leeches, they exist because spineless stores use them to make themselves look more important than they are. Lets talk Salem or Seka, go to their Flickr page and I promise you that most of their likes are made by their bloggers.

    Ever wondered why stores like that have blogger searches every couple weeks?
    They need to have someone like their posts and walk around in their free shit to make them look popular.

    It’s a mega flex if stores don’t have a shit ton of bloggers and make good shit. As for events, don’t get me started. The worst are the ones in which they make you post your blogger pack in a group. Little do they know that it takes a simple script to expose free loaders or sketchy people in the group.

    Taking a picture of the free shit you got, slapping some terrible filters on it, doesn’t make you an artist or important… it makes you pathetic.

    I can hear the whiny voices in my head already of bloggers trying to defend themselves, but honestly I would rather pay someone that is trained to advertise than be forced to give you free stuff and cringe at your “art” as you pretend to be important.

    Congratulations on being at the bottom of the SL totem pole.

    • What your sayin is utter shit, you obviously have no idea what your talking about when it comes to bloggers, i blog when i have the time i also pay for the items i blog most of the time as well, just like other bloggers pay for the extra items they are using in there blog, if you dont want bloggers bloggin your shit then fine dont but dont go bitching about them like that, cause your making yourself sound like a neckbeard, are you butthurt cause nobody wants to blog your items or is it just your time of the month right now?

      • Sometimes you just need to repeat shit for it to sink into some very thick skulls.

    • Uh, plenty of people are paying for stuff from Salem and Seka; did you smoke crack before you posted this?

  56. # 26, remeber the hair for bigger breast that just went on the side of it without lying over it? that could be an option

    # 34 There is still so much stuff for the reborn and not so much for the mounds (more for that juicy thing).

    • I mean I see more for Juicy boobs addon than Mounds 100%, personally not a fan of the mounds addon but I love my juicy boobs so much

    • Juicy is definitely more supported than Mounds, and almost everything I’ve seen for both has the standard size as well, except from a couple of creators who mostly do furry stuff. Not hard to figure out where this secret is aimed.

      • Tities haters? I would never thought that 1 day that would be a thing  😂  😂  😂 

      • Depending on the day i might like those too  😍  😂 

      • I bet you even hate yourself when you look yourself in the mirror  😂  😂  😂  Get some help dude!

      • Hey – I had your back up until now, but I expect you to support my boobs! Support them, I say!

    • its because the juicy add on is made by e body and mounds is a 3rd party, and many of the bigger creators will not support 3rd party add ons.

  57. #49 I legit wondered how long it would take for this one to show up on here… I had my own personal dealings with her.. I wasn’t fooled.. and she didn’t like it.. she had a fit at me over discord.. my response was a simple block. sometimes, blocking is all you can do. my SL got better after that and she’s still in my block list 3 years on. On this… I can say take the warning as genuine.

    • Seen alot as well – I have witnessed her destroying several decent relationships. She is going to ruin another if they don’t run while they can. She can’t be happy, she self destroys anything in her path. She is exactly like the OP said “a monster”. That money you spend monthly to change your name can be used for your own self. Grow up river, Koda, April or whatever your name is/was

      • Whoever wrote this needs to keep their damn trap SHUT. I personally know her and she is a good person. Yes she has issues, but is working on them. So how about you grow up and do something constructive with your SL instead of making lame posts on virtual secrets to defame people. Get a life, stop being a jerk and move on with your life or therefore lack of one.

  58. 51. Neither of these are original bro. Do your research Shein has the exact same bikini for a while now: and I’d bet what I don’t have that even Shein copied their version listed below, from another company. In other words: the original shape isn’t even SL so what is the point of you claiming one had it originally when neither of them did?

    Rhinestone Chain Decor Triangle Bikini Swimsuit

  59. 44. Thank you! I’ve noticed that about men’s events too. Half the models are women, and a lot of what’s on offer is unisex tattoos and accessories. If women’s events started featuring more and more things for men, I suspect there would be riots. But I guess we guys are expected to just let them take over ours.

    • You realize “women” aren’t doing anything to your events, but rather the event owners are being greedy? It’s entirely their choice who to include; it’s not like some women’s group bullied them into it.

      • Nobody said anybody was being bullied into it. It’s hard enough to find good men’s clothing and accessories. When shopping events designated for *men’s* items start selling stuff for women – whatever the reason is – it makes it that much harder.

      • I’m just saying that you’re blaming the wrong people, unless the event in question happens to be owned by a woman. You’re the one who said “let them take over”, as if there was some kinda strong arm business going on.

      • Why is it harder? They probably didn’t have enough men’s stores to fill the event so they allowed some female items in. I hardly think camming past a female only item at a male dominated event makes anything too hard.

        The fact is, women shop more. Women also shop with their men. It’s a win win for the event and the individual store owners.

  60. 21. That’s just how flexi hair do. I’m not saying it looks great. It’s a tradeoff for having hair that moves instead of being weirdly stuck to your body. Truth be told, I like the ways people have started using flexi hair again. Long pony tails like the one in the picture look just as wrong when they’re stuck to your back and don’t move at all.

    • Amen! I have not worn flexi since 2009 but I personally like this comeback. I want glitchy hair that moves while I am AFK dancing, getting dicked down, or falling 2500m from my skybox.

  61. To the reborn comment. True. But I’d bet that the majority of slrs that went for Reborn wanted to basically look like r**stars (with plastic surgery) Triple GGGs. The comedy? I’d bet that they would all be experiencing backpain and wanting rl best reductions if they were naturally given bigger breasts.

    They aren’t really sexy, they aren’t really flattering, and they make us look matronly. I just don’t get why I’d go for them myself. But to each their own. I guess we need to chase men so much we want to look like their mothers.

    • Exactly that might be a reason why it is so popular in SL, to have the looks without the backpain. Win-win.

      If its sexy or not lays in the eye of the beholder, others dont like those sticks and slim-looks.

      • We aren’t talking about sticks and bones. A size 10 (or attempt to replicate it from RL) is not a stick thin. Neither is a C or DD cup for the size 10. However most go for the rl equivalence of a size 8/10 and then go for what would be be a GGG cup. That is what Mounds are by the way.

      • I’m with you, it’s pretty obvious the human cow trend comes from a bunch of hentai-obsessed incels, because SL women who will do anything for attention and that’s what they want. It’s difficult to determine which side of that is more pathetic- the guys who have zero experience with real women and only get hard for those impossible proportions, or the women who think looking like a gross mockery of womanhood is better than being ignored.

      • show us on the doll where the Hucow hurt you, sweetie.

      • Just the retinas  👍  ugly is unpleasant to look at.

      • I just like having big boobs without the back pain and need for a bra. Why does my avatar have to look realistic in SL – is that in the TOS and I missed it?

      • There’s big boobs, which don’t require a mod on most bodies (certainly not on Reborn), and then there’s full size summer watermelons hanging off your chest, like skin covered torpedoes, usually with ridiculously jiggly physics. I don’t know which you’re talking about, so I don’t know if empathize or not. I don’t think you’d be feeling defensive enough to fall back on the TOS if your avi’s tits were smaller than her head, though lol

        Regardless, no one has called for anyone’s ara-ara fetish mommy milkers to be stricken from the grid, we’re just criticizing them like everything else in its turn.

      • “like skin covered torpedoes, usually with ridiculously jiggly physics.” OMG dude those are dangerous imagine as you walk by they decide to turn around, you will be damaged forever.  😂  😂  😂 

      • No one is saying no to boobs chill. Equivalent of a DD is not no boobs.

      • You spoke about Reborn as having huge boobs… You have probably never tried the body on because otherwise you would know that you do not need to be huge in Reborn, is probably one of the most flexible bodies in SL because you can make it huge yes but if you are more of an average kind of person you can do that too. If you think Reborn boobs are that huge when you are not abusing your shape numbers then yes i would say no boobs because having the equivalent of 2 bags of tea cannot be called having boobs. I do own Reborn with 1 of my avatars and i wear hairs breast size M or +, that’s exactly the same as most people that owns Maitreya, Legacy and other bodies that are more average based use, unless ofc they are using petite or perky (the tea bags) or flat chest.

  62. 10. please don’t lump me in with those. all I am doing is playing a silly character. I’d like to think my rp style would set me apart. sorry to whoever everyone thinks I am but your rp could really use a lot of work. I’ve watched a few of these people and I can tell you they could take some pointers. I was just very unfortuanate to choose a legacy name close to someone. But nope, I’m not connected to those other people.

  63. To the one that posted about Facebook not being a podcast (11). What exactly is a social media website to you then? Define the word social. And sit down and take a look at how they have actually engineered Facebook. It is a “blog” on steroids. What are posts supposed to do? What are the video components similar to Instagram? I mean, META owns Instagram.

    Be careful in how you interpret a website, because you clearly have no actual COMMON SENSE to know what Social Media was invented for. Socializing, podcasting, creating content that generates clicks and through algorhythms passes off to other Facebook end users along with advertisements (which is where the revenue is). Why do you think Cambridge Analytica was able to pull so much data out of Facebook users? Think, think, think. Use your brain.

  64. 4 – did someone really just say “there are not much other clubs”??? LMAO are you blind or just never actually searched the word “club”? also this is not the right use of that meme lol.
    21 – LMFAO
    24 – does the event require this? that’s weird if they do, unless its a blog specifically for the event and nothing else.
    30 – oof. its right though lol
    46 – hate that shit

      1. some do but the bloggers imnages are used in the promotion of the event itself not solely for the store and if the blogger doesnt post they are kicked

  65. 10. Declan/Marcus is the biggest fake, two face piece of shit I ever met on SL! Don’t trust him, he says he is your friend but go and talk shit behind your back and try to get your own friends to turn on you, oh and also makes up drama, FUCK YOU DECLAN , fake ass bitch, showed your true colors at CC now NEW HAVEN, oh which reminds me, once you see this post, are you gonna leave like a pussy ass bitch like you did at cedar?

    • Declan is one of the worst people, I have ever met. He creates his own drama and then blames others for the mess he created. Incredibly two faced. He loved pretending he was the victim in Cedar. He loved acting like he was getting harassed. Talked so much trash behind people’s back. He even played his own son and when people found out that he was actually the son he left. He thinks he’s so special and really he’s a dumpster fire.

  66. #3 How would you know if you weren’t there with them? lol, you’re a smart one.

    • All you have to do is visit a few times and see the same people standing around like breathing statues. Happens anytime a place gets popular, people need to come stand around in their little cliques and be seen vs actually doing anything associated with the theme of the sim.

      • I go there with my friends to prank in open chat. Only two respond. Everyone else parks their avs and apparently AFKs for hours.

        I prefer Pino. Still has great folks that go at times, people talk, and it’s not a huge place. It looks more realistic.

      • lol@prank people. How do you prank people in open chat? lol. Well I for one know you can’t just park there for hours, because you will be ejected by an orb like at spa and I don’t get why people feel like others NEED to talk in open. Not sure if people are aware that you can talk privately in ims.

      • Because SL is in theory supposed to be a social experiment. Not an im one where people camp in spots. We all know some folks are trying to flirt, but there’s such a thing as public discourse.

        Don’t like it, park yourself in your own home. Or get one. But most don’t even bother to get a small skybox. So they go to these sims to appear there and afk.

        And prank is just about joking around. Chill out, if SL is so serious that you can’t deal with local chat where people are pulling jokes or pranking.

      • Oh by prank, I thought you meant replacing someone’s sugar with salt. lol. Maybe you meant trolling, and since only 2 people responded, you are just bad at it? Anyways, are you mad because no one is engaging you in conversation, and because of that everyone is ‘AFK’, not in ims, or discord group chat, or something? It looks like maybe YOU should chill out, and not take SL so serious. Don’t get upset because no one is enjoying your PRANKS or wanna talk with you orrrr engage in public discourse.  😫  😫  😂 

      • I usually don’t hang out there. I prefer Pino. People are actually either talking and having dialogue with others; or at least having slex. What exactly do people do in 511 than hangout and stand?
        Been there maybe, twice.

        And no lol, I personally have tagged along with friends. And they themselves have commented the same. Reminds me of the old, old Chamber days. Yet there were some nights there when we had good conversations.

        And as for trolling, not quite. It’s just being silly. Using puns you know. People can joke right? Oh wait, I think I touched one of those that love that place and just stand there for eternity.

        And as for Breathe, they sometimes do chat in local. They also have music sets every now and then.

      • Holy hell on a hot plate! Have none of you ever heard of people watching? Does every person’s experience in SL have to be either trying to get sex or making fun of everyone who is? Maybe they go to see cute outfits, or how awful people can make their avatars, or what strange desperate things people will say or do or wear to be noticed. This whole argument is utterly pointless, and should be resolved with one simple phrase: to each their own. Live and let live, if you prefer. You do you.

      • My response to every complaint like this is “Sorry no one IMs you”  🙄 

      • I have multiple homes, and I still don’t talk in local 90% of the time  👍  my conversations are just not for everyone, and that’s my business, just like everyone else’s conversations are their business. Get some of your own business and maybe it won’t bother you so much.

      • I have read TOS quite a few times and i do not remember they mentioning that introverts can not have an SL account, or are forbidden to go anywhere unless they are up to socialize.  🙄 

        Just because someone doesn’t meet your standards it does not mean they are doing something wrong. YOU PEOPLE STOP THINKING WE SHOULD ALL ACT ALIKE SERIOUSLY THE WORLD WOULD BE BORING AS FUCK!  😡 

      • Hello there! I’m an introvert silly, but I’m not paranoid and hate people, like the majority of you. 99% of those there aren’t that introvertish, when they are flaunting their assets trying to get females and/or males to im. So nope. It’s just what people that want to be in a cool club do.

        Introverts? They go to Pino, less people, but better quality of conversation. Or other places.

      • Then why do you care so much about what others do? Don’t you try to do what makes you happy? So does everybody else…  🙄  let them be whatever they are doing in private is non of your business!

      • Because when people talk privately those who want to know about other’s business end up with nothing to talk about. Sad life  😢 

      • Imagine trying to troll in open chat, then getting mad when only 2 people fall for it.

        Hey, do you think that most people ignore open chat specifically because people who use it are trolls and you’re just adding to the problem rather than the solution?

        Also, if people just stayed at home and did nothing, they wouldn’t meet anyone new to IM, specially if they choose to live in a little skybox.

        For choosing the name, common sense, you sure do seem to lack a lot of it. Just saying.

      • Lol. Considering most people in larger groups complain about the same said friends of mine (considering we are a large group that aren’t really that much of trollers but rather people that actually have dry-wit)…. Sure.

        Look it would be the case if the majority actually get ims. But the vast majority of people that go to those places go to try to get ims. Some don’t and don’t reach out because they do not. 511: Never met anyone there in the 2 times worth conversing to be frank. Half nude females are not my thing, and the vast majority of the guys are odd.
        Weirdly enough some of my best friends were met in Chamber. Some of which share the same dry-wit humour and actually would on occasion joke in local chat.

        And the proof is that only 1 or 2 you see together as “couples” within furniture in the club. The rest are standing around doing NOTHING. And discord voice sex, is not SL. Folks, you are using SL because you don’t want to pay for cam or voice services with others. Especially if you barely know someone. But maybe I’m slightly conservative LOL.

      • How do you know if the “majority” gets IMs or not? I would assume they do, otherwise why be there? I’m not going to spend hours at any place doing nothing, personally- not that that has ever been a problem for me. I guess I just would hate to think that the “majority” of any crowd is so damn pitiful and lonely that they will wait indefinitely for even just one person to take an interest. I’m really wondering now if my SL experience is that much different from this “majority” you speak of, and I honestly hope not. My friends that I hang out with seem to have similarly busy IMs to my own, at least. Standing around for hours without a single nibble on the line sounds so sad and bleak.

      • I don’t get why you’re talking about how supposedly popular you are here, shouldn’t you be basking in it in SL? That alone just tells me you’re insecure about something.

      • LOL aww; so salty, but so little reading comprehension. If you were better at understanding what you read, you’d get I was assuming most people were “popular” enough to have some conversations going- the person I responded to is the one who said they didn’t.

        Do you spend every waking moment logged into SL? I certainly don’t. There’s really not any reason to be on as early as I made that comment, in my time zone. Reading the posts that appeared while I slept as I have my coffee in the morning is a separate thing entirely from actually being inworld. I also play other games, and might check here during long match queues or when I break to smoke a bowl. You’re not going to see anything posted from me between say… 8pm and 2am my time though, when I do log into SL. Those are busy hours.  😏 

      • Wow that’s a whole lot of information about your life that I didn’t ask for.  🙄 

      • You were awfully concerned about how I spend my time. Save your dumbfuck projection for easier targets next time.

      • You’re the easiest target here snowflake 🙃 

  67. 5. No, i like people getting mad and rage on comments they’re funny to read. This is my Church on Sunday.

    13./14./15./16. Degenerates

    24.Make better things and people might bat an eye at your store. Learn a talent instead of being a whiny, jealous cunt.

    28.Prim looks like swollen baby face 10/10 would absolutely cumdump again. Add pigtails, pacifier, drool and a frilly dress, unf. Right on the FBI dick trap.

    33.No, put porn images on mine, please. People need to see more dicks and tits.

    34.RIP reborn vTech

    44.Wow you’re saying the woman make more better mens clothes? i’m shook. how dare they…

    • 24- That’s the point. Talented creators shouldn’t have to give away their fucking fatpacks for free to Flickr/Twitter thots who do nothing but post horny T&A shots. My work speaks for itself, I don’t need “Bloggers”, barely anyone uses Flickr and shit anyway since they changed their policy on NSFW. It’s not worth it

      If uwu babby gurl number #59 REALLY wants my clothes for her crappy photoshoot, well she can buy them like anyone else.

      I don’t join events that require me to give handouts. Especially since 99% of events WE pay a fee to enter. Tell me, why would I give out my fatpacks for free to your “blogger team” if I’m already paying at least the price of a fatpack (1-5k, sometimes more) to enter? Yeah, no. Events depend on creators. Thus, creators should stop making compromises for shit events. Always read the rules before you apply.

      • Clearly your stuff isn’t good enough to make more than what you spent for in the event. You get shitty results for your shitty products, don’t blame the bloggers for your short comings.

      • LOL are you ok bro? Bitching about it will not make you money! You need a reality check! You suck and that’s pretty much it!  😂  😂  😂 

      • The more you talk the more you sound like a jealous creator that nobody will purchase from let alone blog for.

      • Just say the reason you’re angry here is that for once you have to pay for some sort of advertising. The reality here is that the only people earning anything from the event fee you paid is the event organizer. The bloggers earn nothing but, free merchandize. The only people earning anything at events are creators and event organizers. If your items did not sell at that event, the person you need to be angry at are the event organizers whose job it is to advertise the event so that your crap gets sales. Not the unpaid bloggers who are obligated to come to the blogger room and pick from the scraps and are FORCED to blog and promote an event that they get no real life money from to pay for all the subscriptions they now have to pay for to feature your half assed shitty product that you are going to make sales on. STFU, your anger should be directed the event owner that YOU PAID. IF YOU PAID, YOU PAID THE EVENT OWNER, NOT THE BLOGGERS, you ungrateful idiot.

      • STOP LEAVING THE JOB OF EVENT OWNERS TO THE BLOGGERS
        What kind of fairness is this? Everybody gets payments in this that can be turned into RL cash but, event bloggers get free goods for all their efforts and time. If you are not making sales for an event you paid for, go and get mad at the person you paid to be in the event in the first place, or are you too scared to confront the root of the problem? Event owners have become the masters of creators and that is why many of you pour your angry on the only person in the event that is doing the free work of advertising your shit

    • Yeah the comment section meltdowns are pretty hilarious.

  68. #31…If a man can be stolen by a lesser woman….let her! He’s not worth keeping!

    • So many smart women fought for girls like you to have the right to vote, have a job and so on. And yet here your kind is and talks about lesser women, and stealing men. First of all no women can “steal” a man. Its the full-blown free minded decision by the man to leave you and what you guys had behind. And secondly there is no such thing like “lesser” humans. You want respect by a man “who deserves you”? Start acting like you would respect yourself.

      • Horrible integrity, manipulation, lying, deceit… I consider those characteristics of a lesser person. There are jealous and bitter women who manipulate their way into relationships just for fun. If the man falls for it…he’s a pos too. People like that deserve each other.
        Signed, a woman (not a girl) who doesn’t settle.

      • Clutching pearls and calling yourself “a woman who doesn’t settle” while riding a high (or just high-complexity?) horse on a gossip site about a virtual world not meant to be taken seriously?

        Yeap. I consider that an evident characteristic of a “lesser person” too. Pharisaic bitch, it’s VIRTUAL Secrets not Virtue Secrets.

  69. I have to admit, #21 made me LOL. I don’t like to be meant to people in RL or SL for their looks and choices, but…. I didn’t know flexi-hair could do that!

    • all I can do is laugh and imagine that in RL and how much shed hair she’d be pulling out of her crack

      • Don’t forget the heels! Some 12 years ago when we teleported or relogged after a crash our flexi hair and shoes would be stuck up our crack LOL I would love to see a remake of that in this generation of mesh

    • LOL I had been in secondlife since the age of prim-and-sculpt-and-flexi so I can attest to this phenomenon. This is what we looked like after teleporting back then. So nostalgic!

  70. Normally, I look at these and have a laugh. Not this time. Whatever spineless douche posted 7. really needs to get kicked in the twat. To take a cheap shot at a woman who spends hours upon hours building a wonderful place for role-players to come together is pathetic. You mad cause you didn’t get into her pants, or the pants of the man she’s with?!?…probably, that is how you shady bitches work. At least they have the balls to get freaky together for all to see. Unlike you metagaming asshats who stand next to each other, fully dressed and emote fucking, so no one knows…..WE ALL KNOW!

    Sylvana Darkheart-cause I’m not afraid to post my name

    • Nobody cares that she was having sex.

      The point is that she begged people to donate prims (they paid for) then created her own little sex corner with them.

      • No one ‘begged’, it was asked, and some complied. No one was forced. It wasn’t a sex corner, it was a tent used in a battle scene, that happened to be used for an intimate scene. It is about being part of a community, and coming together to lend a hand for an amazing battle set up. Instead, some salty twit decided to cam, snap a pic of a scene going on. Ignoring the rest of the set up that was there as well.

      • Well, too bad for the sad sacks stupid enough to donate their prims to be misused by this builder for her sexual degeneracy then.

        Kudos to the person who exposed her fraudulent behavior and abuse of power/privilege.

      • Uh, there’s a zoomed out shot that clearly shows that little tent intimately tucked away in a semi-enclosed area between cliff walls. How exactly did a battle take place there; which side was stupid enough to try to defend a natural cul de sac without fortifications? And why is there nothing in the surrounding area that indicates a battle took place? Your explanations are sounding like total bullshit.

      • Actually, the fuckbox put out was picked up once they were done. It was never part of the battle layout. It was a private mountain scene that is no longer up.

    • Wait I thought metagaming was camming on people and knowing what they’re doing, not if people wanna fuck in their clothing.

      • Oh, it is metagaming depending on who you are. Otherwise, it’s “There are always NPC people around”

    • It’s literally posted alongside the request for players to cut prims from PAID rentals to be able to build. There’s plenty of places to fuck on an RP sim. They didn’t need a private skybox that was obviously decorated to the nines. Disrespectful to the people who made space. But everyone will have their own opinion.

    • Of course they’re getting freaky. His OG character died and he instantly app’d into another role solely to fuck hers (just like he was doing before). It’s all they do, and being the bUiLdEr her “story” is one of the only ones on sim that matters. It doesn’t matter how many people either of them run off for being IC shit bags.

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