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Virtual-Secrets, Week 725
· kesseret ·
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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.
#34 I usually see mostly the Juicy Boobs being supported, for Mounds I don’t see much. But yes, V-Tech and the other flat chest barely get any support and the market for bulged pants on the Reborn is quite far and between as well….
But all the stuff that is available is super high quality, so it’s really cool to explore anyway.
#24 – I’m a blogger AND a creator. A lot of the events my store is in don’t *require* a fatpack to be sent out. They highly suggest it and ask repeatedly, but you won’t get in trouble for opting to not provide one.
As for blogging – I blog for 2 large events. Both of them track what is being taken and verify that the items are being used. One event I blog for uses blogotex, which means items taken HAVE to be blogged or we risk being fired. The other event uses a whitelist script, and they keep track of who is taking what. As far as I’m aware, the creators for that round are encouraged to add their item in exchange for having access to the other items in that round.
Perhaps you are just not in good enough events? Stop blaming poor event organization on bloggers. If the bloggers for the event you are working for are low quality, then you are in a low quality event, which likely means your items are low quality. Improve the quality of your items, you’ll get invited to higher quality events with higher quality bloggers….it’s not that difficult.
#24 As a designer I love when blogger packs are mandatory, or at the very least, you can’t take something unless you give something. I love when creators swap with each other. As far as bloggers go, that depends on the event. The ones that leave everyone in the group forever or there are bloggers who take everything and blog one item. Those are not great. The events that pay attention to the bloggers and hire good ones who try to blog as much as they can (within reason) I love those. Honestly if a blogger takes your item and never uses it, they likely wouldn’t have given you money anyway. The ones who do use them, probably brought you some customers. Your not really losing anything if 15 bloggers take your blogger pack and only 5 of them ever even use it. Those five probably brought you 3 times the sales. If they don’t use it, it’s either deleted or lost deep among the other things they are trying to blog and it’s as good as if they didn’t take it, It likely wasn’t a sale anyway. Also I mean, asking bloggers to give you money so they can do work for you to make you more money, that’s pretty greedy don’t you think? Bloggers get paid in product to send people to events. If your item wasn’t featured, that doesn’t mean someone else’s item didn’t get a customer to the event and maybe that customer saw your item too. Some bloggers are leeches, but there are also a lot more that take beautiful pictures and do great promotion work, and they get paid for their time in virtual clothing and accessories.
39. Oh wow. I remember, a long time ago, I had a sexual encounter with him. To be honest, he was nothing but hot air and disappointment.
43. That’s actually hilarious. Explains a few things, about some of the narcissistic trash that inhabits that sim. That individual should be banned from any and all sims on the grid. Fuck them and their bullshit.
Trust no bitch you nothing but leeching as cunt. Blogging djing trying to host don’t help with you. You are a fool so fuck you and your friends and family you bum bitch.
And roleplaying Sims are dead
#6 tho LMAO……him and his girlfriend…both the biggest bunch of snobs I’ve ever seen, they’re just all around snobbish especially art snobs, don’t bother ever getting any likes or noticed by either of them unless you like their shit and constantly kiss their snobby asses
Whale and here boy toys are all snobby as fuck, I mean go to Sorass profile “high snobriety”?…..
#49 if you are gonna shame, at least do it right – her current name is Rivers, not River 😉
#24 I Know Who You Are :wpds_twisted:
And nobody cares who you are, because “thot babyfaced whore bloggers” are basically a dime a dozen.
#24 I’m confused. If the real problem is events where creators are forced to send out fatpacks to event blogger groups — aren’t those rules made by the event organisers? Why the blogger hate then? The bloggers are hired to promote the event, not every single participating store, right?
The event owners should make it optional, or have dedicated bloggers assigned to each store. Better yet, they should pay their bloggers to buy items from stores they wish to feature.The participation fee they charge includes marketing, doesn’t it?
So take it up with the management.
Because the management of events will often will reject any discussion of removing mandatory blog packs. Not saying it’s really right, but when management won’t listen these creators get frustrated and start trying to take it to the people who might (aka the event bloggers,) and when the bloggers don’t listen, creators will start trying to get anyone to listen and it really just ends up as venting. It can seem like the management is favoring the blog team over the people actually paying for the event. This is a frustration I’ve been seeing build up in some people for over a year now and it’s obviously not limited to just the people I know, it’s not coming from nowhere.
There’s not an infinite number of events that can be switched to if you’re not happy with the one you’re at, especially if you’re part of a niche that’s only covered by a handful of events. Events for creators exist primarily as a form of advertisement, and if you’re not getting the full extent of the advertisement you’re paying for, that hurts your business. Frankly a lot of this could be pretty easily resolved if management at events tried to diversify their blog team a bit more instead of taking on more people with the same style and aesthetics. That should be part of their job in bringing on bloggers, but it doesn’t seem like they’re bothering to try at all.
I suppose, when a store joins an event has the goal of making money! If you join something means you agree with its rules or even if you do not completely agree you are ok with it as long as you are going to reach your goals.
If you are reaching your goals you have no reason to complain, afterall even not agreeing completly with the rules they are working in your favor so no reason to try to change something that is clearly working fine!
If you are not reaching your goals means that is not the right event for you, in that case you can just leave and try another event.
Events have their own crowds but what brings the people to events are the stores in it, having a diversity of styles can be good and bad depending of the event crowd and how big is the crowd of the stores in it for that specific style.
Either way bitching about bloggers or event rules is pointless, bloggers can’t be hold accountable for lack of sales. On the other hand, the event management should know their own crowd and they should at least annalyse the number of stores for a specific style and the crowd they will bring in, if the numbers are insufficient then was their mistake, because to begin with they should have never invited those stores in.
Any business that does not bother to run their numbers will eventually fail.
Take it from someone that runs multiple business in RL, or just don’t and keep failing and blaming others for it. 😉
P.S. I usually charge for business advise, but take it as a freebie for the sake of SL bloggers community 😅
I forgot to mention… It is important to have realistic goals, if we are doing something that is not for the big masses we cannot expect having the same return as those doing it…
Seems like all these family community places have some type of clique drama, usually the same group of people bouncing from Cedar Creek to Fox Hollow to Woodland to New Haven and back. It’s best to stick with like-minded friends, just try to enjoy yourself, and avoid people you find unpleasant. I mean, eventually you’ll find someone new that you vibe with. It might be nice to have a try at some of the smaller communities like Cheesecake Valley, Port Dominion, Ashborne, Missing Mile, Misthaven, The Hills… I am sure there’s more.
Port Dominion and Missing Mile are great, nothing will ever be as good as Fox Hollow though
#24 Not all of us are so don’t be shallow and loop everyone in the same category of a shitty experience you have had.. some of us actually are passionate about the blogging WE do thanks.
Except that way too many SL Bloggers see themselves on par with RL celebrities and/or influencers and have such a shitty attitude toward everyone. It’s SL ffs.
#34 – Hahaha Mounds? They barely get any creator support and are actually getting dropped by a couple creators already. 😂 I’d be happy if Mounds got a decent top each event that didn’t look like something you’d see a stripper wear. Juicy Boobs gets so much attention when it looks like a pair of water balloons on some avatars. Least when Juicy gets a top the regular Reborn chest does as well.
ithink that they’re releasing way too fast and many breast model for creators to keep up with at this point
I’m not understanding why there is so much hate on New Haven. SL as a whole has lost the ability to RP. It plagued Fox Hollow, Woodland, and any other “big” community. People seem to only be interested in renting and staying in their houses. I’m curious to know if the people complaining about the lack of RP in New Haven have actually tried RPing in New Haven? As with anywhere, you have to make your own RP.
Hey lucy, that bored in CC??
So, my two cents on New Haven. It’s not the sims problem, it’s not an admin problem. It’s not even an individual problem, it’s a culture problem. We look so hard for our ‘tribes’ and once we find them, we’re content in our group because it becomes our safe space. We end up not interacting with new people unless it’s by chance during a group roleplay scene. We end up unintentionally ostracizing people because we stick to our people and don’t interact with anyone else.
#48. This person is so sweet until you do something so teeny tiny to upset them then they turn into this raging idiot and starts shit talking the people that “did them wrong” no wonder I chose to be closer to the other person in our friend group, they’re actually nice and A FRIEND
#24 Newsflash for you: RL stores do this ALL the time. PR packages are a thing and have been a thing for many years now, and they are sent to people FOR FREE just for the chance to be featured on photos or a video, and with no guarantee of getting featured. And unlike us and our virtual goods, that allow you to create infinite copies of your product with absolutely zero cost, RL stores actually invest money and resources in the PR packages that they send.
Stop your whining.
#25, #26, #29, #33 Have you thought about… dunno… not buying them?
#5 So fucking true.
#52 seems to not be specific, but this is something that feels like would be related to WildFire honestly.
Like WildFire doesn’t know what to do for the community anymore. It’s just desperately searching partnership so new victims can end up giving her the money they need after their big fuck up with the community. It’s basically the VRChat situation with WildFire, except it successfully managed to fool people, and they feel no remorse taking money.
#28 I have a Lel Prim head and I don’t think my av looks like a “baby” or a “child” at all. You can make ANY head to “look” that way (Ceylon, etc.) What gets me is that people on this game are on a constant witch-hunt to determine who and who isn’t playing a kid av and are seeing kid avs EVERYWHERE so they can go on a tirade and send mass reports or talk shit about them here. It’s one thing if you have clear proof that someone is engaging in sexual ageplay on an actual kid avatar (like those people who have Toddleedoo heads and Bebe bodies) and then it’s another to just go around accusing random people to start some witch-hunt.
Can’t even model a humanoid avi after my irl self without being called a child, despite being an adult for over a decade now. SL is wild sometimes.
Girl same. From where I am from in real life those heads (Prim, Ceylon, etc.) look like the average ADULT female face so I see nothing juvenile or underage about them or maybe it’s because the average SL user from the US or EU is from the 50+ demographic and white people are genetically predisposed to age faster so when they see someone they perceive as young they feel so triggered and insecure about their saggy overweight geriatric asses
This! In the brains of these snowflakes, if you’re not slightly overveight(at best) and your face looks like you’ve worked 16 hour days for a few decades, you’re a pedo.
You literally can’t look like a typical east/south-east Asian woman without getting ageplayer and pedo accusations thrown at you on a daily basis.
So in essence, the ideal woman: is overworked, has a poor diet, does not exercise, has back issues due to having obnoxiously big tits, is white and American.
Don’t dare to look like your true self, be fat, be white.
#24 I don’t know why creators even do it. Most bloggers are in “like my stuff and I like yours back”-circlejerks, pretty sure their views/likes to sales conversion rates are absolutely abysmal.
Add some sort of affiliate system with trackable codes and 99% of blogs wouldbe gone tomorrow
It’s like Instragram “influencers”, but even sadder because it’s SL.
Love it when bloggers act like they’re hot shit – am I supposed to know who they are?
At least influencers have a determinable target audience and you can quantify the sales they bring in, so while it’s annoying I still get it. SL Flickr is just a giant pic dump with basically zero marketing value, big brain move tricking people into giving out free stuff in exchange for dumping some more pics into the pile which they’d do either way.
I don’t even follow people back if their photostream looks mostly like blogger pics; they have to be exceptionally awesome, artistic blogger photos and those are quite rare compared to the generic, “all my shots are sideways” people. I prefer to follow the creators themselves on flickr, and if they keep their streams updated with new releases and locations, I don’t know why they need bloggers at all.
33 — lol I always have wondered if other people also looked at the creepy pupil eye images that some people use as glare effects.
34 — Meanwhile I can hardly find anything for them that isn’t a damn bikini.
41 — idk who’s accusing who but whoever is accusing of copying is a dumbass. Neither look remotely similar.
So, How were those sales at the event? Poor? Lets blame bloggers!! Actually only a % of exposure is through bloggers the rest is down to advertising the event should it be shopping guides, early access FOR BLOGGERS/BLOGGER GROUPS, social media, other SL related sites that that will advertise for the event. No blogger works for *free shit* and if they do they are brand jumpers OR only blog for a short amount of time. The cost of blogging is a lot, photoshop, pro flickr, props and other styles that will go with what ever design you give out not to Mention the time they put in, I take days on a picture. The child like avatars, BBG ect are not my style in-fact I don’t care much for that style either. Maybe take time to look through the events bloggers to match what you want and send the items to them. I am going to be blunt…. if your items are low quality and generic Its a freebie for the trash because my inventory space is precious, a great amount of event items get deleted after the event ends and of course I speak for myself but I KNOW other bloggers do the same. After blogging for 8 years+ trust me its a real dedication to a HOBBY that drives you, real bloggers work their backsides off. My advise would be to message the blog manager of said events and let them know that no one is blogging your stuff they should then tell the blog team to get it done and if they don’t put it down to experience and just do what you want to do in terms of advertising.
Man I really hope people post more blogger secrets on here.
The comments section being full of entitled blogthots having a meltdown is a treat
A melt down? You are the one having a melt down mate. Go make something low quality and generic.
I used to blog for some rather hot designers and I can attest most bloggers think the world of themselves once they get a following.
But their following is usually never enough to qualify for ad revenue on their blog.
I can count all the times a blogger’s Flickr post made me click through to their actual blog on my fingers, in all my years, but I don’t really need any help mixing and matching items from different creators to make unique ensembles. I guess I prefer people following bloggers to compensate for their own lack of creativity to people wearing outfits exactly as sold together like mannequins.
17 – That’s a pretty good description of all “ACCESS Management” out there. Did you see all the people ass licking Silvia? It’s because they still don’t know who she really is. It will take time for the majority of the people to meet the real Silvia, I hope it will happen soon, cause I believe in karma and one day her institution of pain and harassment will be over, and it will be replaced by good events with people that cares and owners that are good and nice people. There are so many good events out there already. If you feel you disagree with this comment, please take 1 min of your time to consider that you don’t actually know everything because maybe you are not a designer or a blogger or a manager in Silvia’s events, so you are not able to fully understand why we are standing against this kind of behaviour.
The thing is … they will not give a shit. They’re licking her ass because they wanna be part of her events.
Good lord! You really have no clue about business do you? Do you really think it’s supposed to be about good times and happy feelings? It’s not. When people go to events the only thing they care about is walking out with the best new shiny outfit, jewelry, furniture, ect. They don’t go there for the drama. They couldn’t care less about that. All they want to know is this “Who worked the hardest for the L$1000 i’m going to spend here?” It doesn’t sound like it’s you. You sound like the type that when changes come you freak out instead of rolling with them. I don’t know this Sylvia woman from a hole in the wall but it sounds like she is a business woman doing things to make her business better. If it rocks the boat, so be it! She’s not going to please everyone. Why don’t you just quit Access and let someone else who actually wants to be there set up a booth? If you can’t leave the Access businesses because it’s a money maker for you then you just going to have to accept what she is offering. It’s never going back to the way it was. Crying about “pain and harassment” in the business world is only going to get you laughed at by other business people. Here at Virtual Secrets you might find some others that agree with you but don’t ever believe that is going to get you more sales. You need to be tough as nails not suffering from “pain and harassment”.
Are you a manager, a designer or a blogger in Silvia’s events? If yes, why are you still working with someone you dispise so much? If no, then how would you know? I can’t agree or disagree with you because although i know who she is i have never had any interection with her or her staff, but if she is that bad why is there people willing to work with her at all, when there is so many options in the market as you say so. To be honest, to me this looks a lot more like a witch hunt from people who would probably like to have what she has or to be where she is than about her persona… Show us some proof of how nasty she can be and i might start believing it. This kind of posts are nothing but empty accusations that say much more about who posted it than about the target. Is boring, does not add anything new to everything that has been posted about her and to those like me that are her events customers time by time just make us wonder if it is the truth or if whoever is posting is an ex staff, designer, blogger that she kicked out for some reason or some other event’s owner that is not as successful and instead of spending his/her energy on improvement his/her own business tries to denigrate the concorrence. I would be more willing to believe it if the rare times i go to her events i would see empty spots or lack of quality but that does not happen so WHY aren’t they leaving at all? Does people like to be treated like shit having the option to be treated well elsewhere or maybe they are not being… Read more »
#24 Geez, please tell us who you are so all the bloggers/leechers can stay away from your entitled, condescending ass.
“people who do nothing but take pictures”? Lol! All they get is a measly copy out of unlimited copies of an item that they will probably never use after taking that picture. If they do blog it, you earn a lot more than you “pay”. Show some respect.
Respect for what? Being an attention whore who mastered basic photo-taking? It grinds my gears to see well-made clothing items slapped onto some rando blogger’s janky shape with its squished flab and generic “I’m a bad girl” tongue-out facial expression. “Oh it’s SUCH a HARD job”. Quit your bullshit, admit it’s for the likes and own your neediness.
I mean the majority of these “bloggers” are doing just that though. Blogging is not just about taking a picture and slapping a title and landmark in the description. An actual blogger will take the time to write a review on the things they’re wearing. Strawberry Linden is a good example that comes to mind when I think about SL bloggers who actually blogged about the products and outfits they wore.
“Pls give me fatpack for free, I promise I’ll never use it again, plspls I need it for muh blogging”
Does this tactic actually work? If it does… why don’t we all become “Bloggers” and beg for free shit?
If a blogger works for an event, the event has rules not only for designers, but for bloggers as well. In most events, they have to blog at least 3 times per round and at least 3-5 different designers per post. This means that each round of any given event will have at least 15 designers advertised per blogger, and we provide our items in the same manner RL stores send out PR packages.
If nobody chose your items, then maybe your item wasn’t that good or just got overlooked (which says something about the quality of your items). Most events have a bloggers’ manager, and all we have to do is tell this person that our item isn’t getting blogged, and it will be fixed.
By all means, feel free to become a blogger, I dare you. I wouldn’t hire you for anything on this grid, but wish you luck.
If the rules of an event are not of your liking do not join! If you think that less of all boggers do not invite them to blog your stuff, as simple as that and we all move on! Your post is stupid and pointless it does say much more about you calling out for attention then the events you didn’t tag and the bloggers that do not even know who the fuck you are and probably not even willing to blog whatever you make! Now grab all the attention you have received and go back to your insignificant life! 🙄
That’s exactly why there are so many bloggers. They get free shit.
🤗 🤗 🤗
#34 Feel like no matter what kind of mods or tits are made for xyz body noone can just be happy with anything. Who fucking cares how the body looks or the mounds look get over it. You want more mods made for v-tech do it yourself and quit whining on sl secrets it’s sad as fuck.
#26 – I don’t see how making hair to fit more mainstream size is any different than clothing makers who only do certain bodies. It’s a creative choice. Every single consumable in SL isn’t for ‘every single body’ and frankly, Doux is popular enough to not have to worry about trying to please everyone. Creators make what they want, they don’t deserve a bunch of blowback because of that.
My boobs are actually 75 and I don’t have an issue with clipping or anything. It’s the length of the hair that clips my ass with Reborn but not Maitreya. I’m not gonna bitch about it though. Reborn wasn’t out or big when some hairs came out and it’s the the creators fault.
I myself have boobs that often fall between the default size and the first “+”, so I can sort of identify with the frustration, but there’s just SO much hair out there that it never occurred to me to get all butt frustrated over the fact that I can’t make some styles work.
Reborn VTech another failure project what’s with all these flat chested females trying to look male looking. No we don’t want to see that.
New Haven sim that place is wack the staffs are just typical ass kissers jumping to the next community to fuck up.
Reborn VTech another failure project what’s with all these flat chested females trying to look male looking. No we don’t want to see that.
New Haven sim that place is wack the staffs are just typical ass kissers jumping to the next community to fuck up.
No, YOU don’t want to see it, probably because you’re too inept to understand that not all females have boobs, and not all men want to look like they’re constantly flexing every single muscle in their body 24/7. Don’t like what you see? Block and derender
“flat chested females”
Are you retarded? I don’t see many female avatars using v-tech. 99% of them have cocks.
And cool, if you don’t want to see it. I don’t want to see baby-faced drooling ahegao sluts with balloon titties and clothes that look like it came out of a kid’s wardrobe. Nor do I want to see “Hucows” leaking milk from their ginormous titties all over the goddamn sim. But too bad. SL isn’t catered to what I like or dislike alone. Same goes for you.
I think that is room to everything in SL! SL is a fantasy world where you can be whoever the fuck you want. But if people’s taste is not what we can call the majority of what customers look for, then complaining about is pointless. SL is not free neither making stuff is something you can do in an hour or 2 as an hobby, so it is normal that store owners are will rig for those sizes that most people use. I do have a hard time too looking for stuff to 1 of my avatars but it is my choice to have something out of the ordinary and i do not even mind the effort because when it becomes effortless then means my avatar is looking pretty much like every other avatar. 🙄
#29 – Hard Agree. I’ve found myself getting ready to get a fatpack, then realizing it’s Vincue and going nope at the price tag.
Another snoozfest about people no one knows or cares about. Boring!
another boring comment
#28
ROFL ironic how they eject and ban avatars wearing LeLutka Prim at *that spa* and *that hookup place* but they overlook other heads with a very similar look
And to those who downvoted me, I actually switch between Gaia and Prim but I was able to make both look mature enough to be in *that spa* and *wherever-club-you-hoe-in-to-catch-virtual-STD* I never got ejected or banned, it seems people on SL just have a tirade against short, young looking people
As a blogger myself I’d love for these entitled creators, who hate bloggers, to identify themselves here. That way, us good for nothing bloggers can choose to no longer buy from them or blog their stuff. I spend a great deal of money monthly for my blog (no way you can be a good blogger and do it on freebies alone lol), and would prefer to spend it on those that don’t have such shitty attitudes.
You first. Name yourself and your blog. You spend “a great deal” monthly for your blog. Why? Because you choose to and you obviously have spare cash to throw around. Stop pretending you’re in some kind of charitable/service industry without which the creators of SL would fail and end up as virtual panhandlers on the streets.
Mewsery is a big one she is a stuck up cunt and never does blogger searches, she also likes to block people and talk shit all the time, then plays victim.
Don’t worry, those of us that dislike freeloaders don’t sign up for events that require us to give you guys handouts, so you’re not getting our stuff whether you want to or not (:
also lmfao “paying for your blog?” What? You know, it’s not necessary to pay for Flickr premium to post shitty SL porn.
You make a valid point about the free giveaway fatpacks, but your message is getting lost in your dickish complaining about everything else. This entire thread, every single post you’ve responded to, you just go further and further away from your initial point by complaining about bloggers and Uwu babygirls and fat assed whores etc. etc. You’re right that nobody should require you to give away your creations, and nobody should require you to use bloggers, for that matter. But by attacking all bloggers, you’re just ensuring that nobody will care about that and will only focus on your unjustified anger and rudeness.
Pay for my blog? Yes, most bloggers must buy items to blog. We may get a a shirt, or a chair, or a bed and then we have to fill in the rest with things that we purchase. Those who think they can be a blogger for freebies typically do not last long. Most stores and events will not even consider your blog until you have blogged (and spent only your own money) for 3-6 months. On blogotex they also have a way to “blacklist” those bloggers that join, take items, then leave.
If we want to be able to post as many pictures as we do then yes we do need to be FLickr Pro to keep all our our pictures there, not just for NSFW ones, since there is a limit as to how many public normal photos you can now have. I’m not sure why you think all bloggers make nothing but shitty nsfw pictures. I personally do more decor than fashion myself, I also tend to not blog for events since their requirements are more stress than I choose to have for myself. All bloggers are different, and you clearly no nothing about them or know any personally so you talk out of sheer ignorance.
Also, keep in mind, many creators take the fatpacks and items that are sent out in event groups for their own personal use. So do not just point fingers at bloggers. At least the bloggers have a reason to take the items.
I’m sorry that no one wants to blog your items so you feel the need to take it out on bloggers, perhaps just focus on bettering your own product and more people will choose to buy it. 😀
I really don’t get this hatred against bloggers. This Big Brain person must have had some awful experience, or just isn’t selling much, except to hear them tell it, they do just fine. So not sure where this animosity to bloggers comes from, but sounds like there’s enough anger and hatred to go around from them, anyway. Bloggers are just today’s target. I’m not a creator/designer or blogger, but I can appreciate the effort that goes into both. If blogging didn’t generate any interest or revenue, why the hell are there so many of them? Why do certain stores have select people blogging for them? No, not every person who calls themselves a blogger is good, but for that matter, nor is every designer.
I wish we knew who you are, so I could tell my bloggers to stay the heck away from you. I also wish I knew so that I would avoid buying anything from you, ever. I have nothing but respect for these people who take their time to make my stuff look awesome on photos and bring me more sales.
If you keep a well-updated store-only Flickr with clear pics of your items to show their quality, that will be the biggest boost to your sales, bigger than any indie blogger could possibly give you. (If you want to have a group where customers can post their pics in your items that’s cool, but make it separate from your store group; no one wants to dig.) When my friends link me to new releases they’re excited about, it is ALWAYS the creator’s Flickr, or the Seraphim blog. Never an individual blogger. And we spend a LOT.
23. It is no secret that Bully-sserian Citizens is the most toxic clique on SecondLife. There is no other group inworld that can roleplay Mean Girls better. If you thought the RP communities being posted in here were sickening, just join the Bellisseria Citizens group and observe the group chat especially during PST hours, or peek into their sub-forum (Linden Homes) in the official SecondLife community forums. The group mods and the “inner elite” are as evil and two-faced as Regina George and almost every active member who chats and shows their fugly ass up on a high horse at Bully-sseria Events are either insecure ass-kissing stuck-up bitches like Gretchen Wieners, or just a dumb and vapid Karen like Karen Smith. I want to quote Janis Ian by saying “beware of the plastics,” but it is not only the plastics you need to watch out for here. There is a reason why many premium homeowners left or would just rather not associate with that group. I am astonished that VS is overflowing with toxic sludge from RP communities every week when there has been so much tea in Bellisseria since 2019…
Agreed. And they have their heads so far up the Linden and Mole poopchutes that it seems like they’re just permenantly going to be the face of Bellisseria which sucks. They use their influence to discredit every other group and it’s ridiculous. I’ve tried coming in with alts a few times just to see if I’m treated differently. They all talk down to the new people as if they’re unworthy, and if you dare try to change a topic or criticize in any way it’s an instant attack if not outright banning. Not to mention Dreamer uses the group as just a big advertisement for her crappy blog. I miss Bellisseria before they were the only group allowed.
I came back to playing SL after a 10 year hiatus at the time when Bellisseria was released and premium name changes were offered. Thought it was a lovely new start and it sure was for a few months until I joined the group and started appearing in their parties. At first they seemed sweet and welcoming at face value but over time the de facto leaders and core members gave off snobby and disingenious vibes, and every time someone outside their clique started a conversation or a polite question in the group chat they were lowkey snarky and condescending and at times hostile. It was so offputting I had to turn off the group chat for a while because of that. A year later I finally got sick of Bellisseria and left. Never been happier!
Here is an example of entitlement and special snowflakery by one of Bully-sseria’s lolcows:
https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/484283-bye-bellisseria/
So many more to come!
I hadn’t seen that before but wow. They blame the community for their lack of clarity and consistency, and then completely ignore that they actually set up an out of theme HQ for the stupid BBB. And then Patch just locks it with no comment.
At this point it feels like stuff isn’t getting better unless Abnor and Patch have more accountability as well. But I don’t see that happening.
24.
A couple of things on this one. First, I can see why creators would send stuff to certain bloggers for promotion. Some bloggers take amazing photos and get a lot of attention on their posts.
Second though, I didn’t know some events required creators to give their stuff away to event bloggers for free. That is kinda messed up.
I know of a couple of events that require free blog packs. They also don’t assign bloggers to stores or ask that the bloggers even show off the stuff they take, so bloggers have entirely free reign to just go around and take everything on offer and only show one or two items during the entire event, meanwhile the admins of the event have effectively banned the creators from complaining about it lol. The bloggers also have a favoritism issue and will repeatedly show off the same people and items multiple times, and some creators don’t get blogged during the event at all. It’s pretty bad.
Sounds very much like an event I was looking at, but chose not to sign up for.
They wanted a free “blogpack” from me, was MANDATORY as per the rules, and were heavily encouraged to make it our FATPACKS, not even just a small sample. These “Blogpacks” are given to ALL the bloggers, regardless if they are actually, actively blogging for the event, or show interest in the product.
The only “blogging” I saw was a few twitter posts from a handful of people, who only showcased the same 2-3 creator’s items. Sooo, yeah. Not doing that.
Events may require that creators give their items to the bloggers because those bloggers have requirements that have to be met. In many cases events require bloggers to do 2-4 blog posts a month and blog a minimum amount of creators, which I assure you is FAR more than 1-2 items. Most bloggers that make it into large events are typically the best of the best and have proven themselves over years of work. They aren’t showing favoritism, it’s more than likely their particular style, whether a creator stays within the preferred theme if there is one and if they find the items to meet their own personal standards. It’s a lot of work and very time consuming to be a good blogger. Those that don’t know exactly what us bloggers do think its just snapping pics, but there is far more time that goes into it.
I can’t really comment on the bulk of events that require blog packs, I’m specifically talking about two events that I’m familiar with. I can promise that the bloggers at these events are not “the best of the best,” many of them don’t have much of a following and I’ve seen a blogger at one of the events throw t-posing avatars and unworn clothes (not flattened, just floating around) in their pictures. There is no minimum quota for them to meet for these events as far as I’m aware, there’s seemingly no standards for the bloggers at these events at all. I’ve seen them pass over items like eyes and accessories, things that are fairly easy to integrate into pictures, in favor of repeatedly showing items (with the same style and theme) from people they like more.
The real issue I’ve heard from creators in these events is that if they’re not going to get blogged anyway because the bloggers have a bit of a monoculture going on and their style isn’t compatible, they’d rather not have to bother with putting in more work into putting together a blog pack on top of all the other prep for the event. The point isn’t creators wanting to force bloggers to show off their stuff, they just want to not have as much work then they get very little or nothing back for it. They could be getting some extra rest or spending the effort on their next project instead.
omfg a whole 2-4 pictures a MONTH!! Gee I had no idea bloggers had it so hard!
And here I thought MY job of fully meshing, rigging and texturing clothes for SL and fitting those to several bodies all by myself was hard! Oh, if only I knew the STRUGGLE of taking a few pictures. Poor bloggers. We must give them ALL the free fatpacks, so sad.
All these salty af ‘bloggers’ desperately trying to cover their ass by responding to EVERY critical comment with a wall of text is HILAR and ironically makes them seem cringier than before.
As others have said, if you don’t want to send your oh so wonderful fatpacks to bloggers than don’t join those events. The bloggers honestly do not care, they will blog the items from the people who are there. You really have a crazy odd hatred towards bloggers. Weird.
Are you in only one event per month? No? Well, neither are bloggers. Most bloggers have multiple sponsors plus events, which means an average blogger needs to prepare at least 2-3 photos per week. My brand participates in very few events, and we always get blogged multiple times… maybe your items just aren’t good and they don’t get picked, who knows.
I have no freaking clue how events work, but if the event has bloggers i can understand why they request the stuff to be sent to bloggers, after all they will promote the event and with that promote everyone in it… I do not go to events very often but when i want to get something that is in a specific event i always end up looking around and finding a few more stuff i like.
Good bloggers are worth having! A lot of people look at bloggers work to shop, some because have no time to hunt for stuff, others because they need help creating a cool look, i do not see why all this hate over bloggers when they are providing a service not only to stores by advetising their stuff but to the people who follow them.
I definitely agree that good bloggers are worth it, and I didn’t give hate to bloggers at all in my post. It’s just messed up for events to force creators to give their items to bloggers. That isn’t something that should be forced, if a creator would rather not work with bloggers or would rather work with their own bloggers, that should be their choice.
I don’t really know how that works and yes it should be optional, but on the other hand if they advertise the event no matter who’s stuff is, it is always reaching out potential buyers to everyone in that event, usually people do not go to events to buy a thing or 2 they saw on a blog and go away without looking around.
That’s why i dont really understand the point of bitching about! I guess someone just woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to bitch about the 1st thing that came to mind. 🙄
#18- I don’t really see the issue with this, especially if they’re a store that makes their own mesh. Are you really that desperate to have the same outfit for multiple bodies?
#48- If you’re gonna make a secret about what someone’s saying, don’t blur out what they said??
#51- It’s the same style but obviously different mesh if you actually look for more than two seconds.
#51 – Same style different mesh? Are you high? The only difference is in the cup of the bikini top. You can’t make one little change and claim it to be ORIGINAL MESH.
Actually, you can. You can get as close as possible to someone else’s mesh, and if you still completely modeled and rigged it yourself, it’s still your “original mesh”. In this context, “original” doesn’t mean “unique”, only that it’s not a full perm mesh anyone can buy and texture. Even purchased meshes can qualify as “original” as long as those exact models haven’t been sold to another SL creator previously.
I agree with you on #48 and #51, but I will say that, about #18, as someone that owns different bodies and likes to use different bodies for different characters, it is kind of annoying that Violent Seduction does that. Would much rather buy things for more than one body and have to buy different colors separately than having to buy one for each color and for each body.
I agree with you on #18 – this is nothing more than VS going for a money grab on the weekend sale. And as cute as the shorts were and I would have spent then $100 to buy both colors – the sale was lost because I will not reward for making us spend the money on each body type. We need to stop that trend today!
AND btw, it’s not just that trend that I abhor with the weekend sales. Other shady ways is things like selling the bra and panties separate with lingerie (looking at you Ricielli and Dhoma) or Selling each makeup individually in the set (that’s you IDTTY).
The real heros for weekend sales would be stores like GOS and Ison – which is why I tend to buy everything they put out on weekend sales. Gos never EVER puts their event shoes on weekend sales (don’t you hate buying something at an event full price only to see it on a weekend sale 2 months later!). GOS instead puts out special colors for some of their latest styles. As someone who has just about everything GOS – their weekend sales colors are just as fabulous as their full price colors. This is why GOS shoes are the Christian Louboutin shoes of Second Life.
As for Ison – they may only put 1 or 2 of their products on sale for weekend sales but if you really like the product you can also get the fatpack for an awesome discounted price. And Ison quality is top of the the line!
No, I don’t give a shit when things I paid full price for go on sale, and the entire concept of being mad about that is baffling to me. Can you explain why it bothers you? I honestly can’t think of a single reason for it, and apparently it’s a widespread problem to the point where creators actually face backlash when they offer sales, people having the audacity to complain to them about previous purchases they made by their own free choice. It’s a good thing I hate making meshes, because anyone who said some dumb shit like that to me would get banned from my store. If you’re so envious of people who get a deal, stop paying full price for anything, then you’ll always be that guy.
Hi! Iki here This doesn’t really change the profit margin, people tend to just choose for the body they want to wear it with. All this does is give me valuable and accurate data that shows where people are actually spending their money rather than relying on an unpacker that could give data that is less accurate. I can also individually see if customers are purchasing for multiple bodies at the same time and the answer is they are a -very- small minority. Most customers purchase in a linear fashion (Maitreya to Legacy to/sometimes Reborn) along with the newer releases. Customers in the large majority only purchase for the body they are currently wearing. I would have changed this long ago if I saw people purchasing for multiple bodies regularly. This pattern has not changed since Belleza was popular. For context I have been selling via body pack for at least 5 years. As for this being a “Money Grab” – I have always lowered the price of the single packs and I do 1000L fatpacks at every event -including- all bodies to offset any profit I may receive from this. Unfortunately since this was a sale set to 50L each. The price was already lowered, I can’t go lower for you. If I had all bodies in the same pack I’d have to reflect that in the price and raise the single prices to around 350L each or more to meet the prices of others. Obviously I haven’t done that. Where is the money grab with this context? I don’t think this is actually right to accuse someone of something that just clearly isn’t true. Lastly I want to also point out that in the beginning Violent Seduction priced a single dress at 650L and that was considered normal… Read more »
13.-16. Not surprised. I heard that Riot is a closed minded racist asshole anyways and Ken Lee..likes to spin shit and make drama about him, and claims it as DEFENDING FRENSSSSSSSSSS. From what I read on FB he spun it to DONT CANCEL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE EGGS OR FIND SOMETHING TASTY instead of the the blatant disrespect. Two incels if you ask me (yes i know, no one did) and the people who found his mediocre insults laughable. Just disgusting.
“I heard that” – You can make up shit about anyone like this. And I didn’t even said anything about the food, so I didn’t spin it in any way. My point was about dumb people overreacting about some food. But here it is: That food did look disgusting and you can kiss my ass. Stay mad and dumb 🙂 I love reading these comments!
#3 And the thing about 511 is there is a AFK checker every 30 mins that asks if you are active or it boots you, some people really do live there literally.
And they used to do it at the Chamber, Teqi’s, every other busy place in SL and always have. There’s always one idiot coming in and shouting about bots in local but that’s always been the case in all the years I’ve been here.
I’ve talked to quite a few people the times I’ve been there. All very much there and wanting to chat.
#44You nailed it on the head but let’s not forget how many dump sweatpants, tank tops and tiger tattoos us guys get to peruse thru.
Exactly! I don’t mind so much that there are some unisex things at the “men only” kind of sales, but if that’s the market they are actually targeting, then don’t have anything exclusively for women. Things like earrings, tattoos, or eyes that can go for either is fine with me. I’d say what really bothers me more is the absolute lack of any variety. I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen three different events for men in a month where each had multiple options for sweatpants, graphic t-shirts, beards that look like every other beard that came before, tattoos that look like they were generated by an AI bent on covering every inch of skin it can, and poses that look 96.7% like every pose that same creator has ever made! I know men’s fashions are not as diverse as women’s, and there are some creators out there trying hard to change that, but we need more. It’s like the old baseball movie said, “If you build it, they will come”.
#2 Are you Chobii’s hater from last week? 😂 😂
Yes, so decided to take the piss out of it. Like if everyone thinks I’m guilty might as well be guilty.
I have reached supreme cringe. Time for the comment meltdown. I’m still here. Laughing.
LOL I thought so 😂
I don’t try to cover my tracks. I made it as obvious as can be it was me. None of this is so deep I need to hide my identity or which ones are mine. I’m just here to have a laugh. This place is a riot! Some people take this so seriously. You can feel it in their aggressive comments.
Glad to see you have moved on. Could not reply to the other comments you made on last week’s VS. Ngl, the VS is quite funny and I don’t take offence. Just glad to see chobii posts are buried tho. Take care 🙂
Just chill on the aggression. I told you I’d get bored. 😂
I agree with you on that! Well is nice to see you moved on, you know some people does not deserve any attention at all and it seemed the case. A big squeezy hug for you! 😘
Hah. Just figured I’d change the name! LOL. And nah. I found it pretty hilarious she actually posted last week and got like two downvotes of notice. Still, even the outrage at Chobii posts was amusing.
I still laugh though. People are so aggressive here about their pixel universes. SL used to be mine. Now I just laugh with other some other ex players.
Glad you rectified yourself. The Chobii posts were a bit too much for me, but the meltdowns and the outrage you incited in the responses were unbelievably hilarious I wanted to convince myself that the people replying were also just playing along. I enjoyed. Thank you!
Hah. Those who lost their stores and blogs like my friends did have every reason to be angry. When you have someone playing out of context theater with logs and sabotaging your networks of events and friends, you lose a lot. A lot. Some never returned after they were fucked with. I miss those people. We were shy, new to the world, but we had each other’s backs until her.
And I promise you, they were not all posted by one person. The first week it happened I didn’t even post one. This just is to show that multiple people have the same story.
I had no idea Chobii was gonna be such a clusterfuck or hot-button issue when I posted my two. If I had, I would have backed off. Cause it was overkill, but so was the outrage at our outrage was overkill.
Then again, the meltdown was gloriously entertaining. But hopefully it’s behind us. People know now. What they chose to do or believe is up to them. It’s handled as far as I’m concerned. Just her name seems to annoy people.
#26 4$ and you think you are paying too much? Bitch please if the quality followed the price then we would all be wearing flexies. 🙄
Literally don’t understand how people complain about Doux’s prices. Buncha cheapskates.
I remember when a hair fatpack was over 1000L WITHOUT styling options… so honestly i find this post just lame… As much as for those who think meshers are machines and have to rig for every size available in SL. 🙄
#24 Do you even know if any of those bloggers took your stuff? I have a bunch of blogger friends and they only blog what they like which is reasonable since non of them is getting paid to do what they do. Since you are complaining no one blogs your stuff perhaps the issue is what you make? Make it more likeable and i am sure whatever bloggers issue you have will go away. 😂 😂
“I have a bunch of blogger friends and they only blog what they like which is reasonable since non of them is getting paid to do what they do.”
Correction, bloggers get paid by having access to pretty much EVERY exclusive item (Usually the fatpack) being sold at an event. Sure, it isn’t Linden…but don’t say they don’t get paid.
It’s the same for having “bloggers” for a store…. we don’t actually pay them Linden to blog our items, but they get all of our releases.
will you get stuff you dont like just because it is free? Waste of time to clean up later.
I am pretty sure if stores use blogotex thats not how things work, you actually have to blog what you take otherwise at some point you can not take any more stuff without blogging those you already took. Still free advertising because you give to make money. You only pay the upload of your stuff once, and you have unlimited copies of it, in RL people actually have to pay for all the materials and there are no such thing as unlimited copies. So quit crying because they don’t owe you shit, they advertise you for free the least you can do is provide what you want to have advertised. 😡
It’s not about whether or not they pick it up, it’s about events that REQUIRE you to give out free stuff to “Bloggers.” Most advertisment comes from word of mouth, or the event’s social media. Not Flickr/Twitter thots who have no talent beyond being a walking product placement.
I don’t care if “Bloggers” advertise my shit or not because I don’t need them. I do just fine with my normal methods. And if I DO need someone to take pics for me…? Well I will ask my friends & good pic takers who I know, rely on, and trust. Simple. Why then, would I put my free fatpacks up for grabs to a people I don’t know and can’t rely on?
It’s one thing if it’s optional but if it’s mandatory… yikes, no. Miss me with that. Creators already pay fees to get into events. Any event that says it’s required to have a free blogger pack or blogger sample, I don’t do. Simple as that. If the ahegao-faced, jailbait, blogger thots want my clothes? They can pay for it like anyone else.
I don’t know what reality you live in but that’s not true at all. Any time I find out about an event, it’s 9/10 going to be from Flickr first if not inworld ads. I blog for stores on my own time just for fun and run a store and though I’m not active with either anymore due to RL, I can say from experience that a majority of people would sooner flock to Flickr instead of going to a website to read a whole post. Flickr, fb and various others are essential for getting word out there about your store.
I have to agree you shouldn’t be forced to give out blogger packs. Just throw them maybe one textured item just for the potential for promotion. Bloggers for events do bring in people. So many bloggers compete with each other on who’s the biggest diva and that brings in the people. Sometimes the controversy is the views.
Still, Second Life is mostly influenced by social circles and bloggers are a social circle. The selected few who do not get to blog the event but wanna be current-pretty will have to go buy. That’s your target. So, throw the bloggers one or two small items or even small accessories and go from there.
Still, those blogger group packs don’t only go to bloggers. Other creators in that group have, will, and can grab every pack posted and often brag about it. Even non-bloggers usually get the pack if they are in the event group and that alone is shitty.
actually, most sales these days come from FB, Flickr etc and sharing across platforms. Also comes from advertisement of these products by events etc in guess what same platforms and guess how they do the advertising? they use blogger photos from the free stuff given out .. honestly does like you got a shitty store with no real income in it ..
Please please share which store you are so I know who never ever to shop at. You sound like a absolute tool, I’d get off your high freaking horse.
You are a little fish in a very VERY big pond, you rely on word of mouth, people browsing Flickr, Instragram, Facebook. A good majority of the items I do buy I see other bloggers wearing them.
Bloggers don’t do shit for free, I am a blogger myself I work freaking hard to showcase products, it isn’t just ‘taking a pic’ it’s putting together a whole look, finding the right pose and background, using the perfect windlight and shadows before even stepping into Photoshop to fine tune bits and pieces. Don’t even get me started on what I pay in subs and fees each month for programs and tools.
Honestly this whole things screams waaaa waaa waaa people ain’t buying my products let’s blame bloggers when probably it’s the fact your products are fucking shit.
Here we go another desperate wall of text. Stop acting like you’re curing cancer or constructing a skyscraper. Holy shit. ‘screams waaaa waaa waaa’ Kind of sums up EVERY overly-defensive response you’ve posted here ROFL.
I agree with you 100% on this. THIS entire post is what majority of us do. I know for a FACT that within my circle we have to go around and buy the rest to complete the rest of the look for some sort of tacky ass item or mediocre item we don’t want to blog or FORCE to blog because it didn’t get exposure. Whoever wrote this probably someone who is constantly in events and their products suck and don’t get exposure and they need to look at their items and think. Is it my textures? Mesh? Ads? How I market? That’s one thing people don’t do anymore critique because mother fuckers can’t handle critiques anymore. If your product fucking sucks IT SUCKS period, regardless we end up deleting garbage ass items anyways so! And if you put in the blogger room it’s up to the bloggers themselves to blog your item. Rather it fits our style, theme, or if we get too it. AND YOU DESIGNERS don’t like how some of us take our photos! You don’t like how we mix and match pieces of your clothing or you let other popular bloggers get away with things while others can’t. So you play favoritism. If the event have a blogger room I am sorry to say I am entitled to EVERYTHING in that room. It’s a privilege of being their event blogger. I am not just going to take this or that I am taking it ALL rather I blog it or not because I will use it in the future or I’ll use it in a few days. I’m not going to keep coming back and forth to this box. So don’t be mad at us when it comes to how we blog and how events run… Read more »
Why? Why are you so upset a creator doesn’t want to give out a freebie pack to strangers with no guarantee they will blog it? They spent the hours making the product. The trade should be fair value, and those who don’t blog it, other creators in the group, owners, etc. aren’t fair value.
Bloggers aren’t the entire SL market. And the good ones are few and far between.
EXACTLY.
I spend a lot of time on meshing, rigging, and texturing clothes for SL. It’s not easy. It’s really tedious at times, and takes a lot of patience.
Not to mention, I’m ONE person working alone. I don’t have a “team” like bigger stores might. I do all the content creation, I do most of my own ad pics (occasionally reach out to people I know and trust if I need additional pics), I do my own CSR. All me. And I do it all the time, every week, I’m always making something new.
So why the fuck should I be REQUIRED to give my stuff out for free, to strangers who won’t even be guaranteed to do advertisement for me? And who says I need that advertisement anyway, I’ve been doing just fine by doing regular events & marketplace sales. If I ever needed someone to take pics or promo me, then I’d pick someone MYSELF and It’d be someone I trust.
That is entirely fair. No one is entitled to your works. I think you’re getting a lot of downvotes because your viewpoint is a threat to current blogger existence.
It is up to you to decide what is and isn’t fair trade and a lot of these events don’t limit blogger packs to just bloggers. Other store owners, event organizers, and sometimes their friends will have access to those packs. Many creator friends bragged they also got their packs back in the day I blogged.
Until there’s more accountability and a guarantee you’re going to get the coverage from people who got the pack, I see entirely why you’d be upset. People don’t want to see the other side of it.
Yes, many bloggers work hard but there’s also the ones who just throw filters and textures and vivid blur or whatever else on their photos which takes 10 minutes. And that’s not a fair trade of effort and work.
It’s not that I’m upset they don’t want to give items to us, It’s the way this person talks about us like we are just freebie hunting everything, I work very hard on each of my blog posts each can take me hours to do, never mind money we spend to help promote things.
Also makes me wonder which events she’s in cause honestly I’ve come across very very few events that require every store to add blogger packs, most the bigger events do not and if they did well they have systems in place. A couple send each blogger a list of stores that they have to blog so every store gets equal coverage or some events require a certain amount of stores to be covered in a post or in total, heck some keep track on what people take n if you take lot’s but don’t blog you’ll be removed and black listed.
Plus let’s not forget these events the people that run them know each other, hell some of them manage multiple events so they keep track of who’s applied n done what before it’d not be hard for a blogger to be black listed if they don’t pull their weight.
So yeah makes you women what events they are in to be so put out about the whole thing.
I get you’re upset but it is one creator’s viewpoint in an ocean of other creators who value your work. Regardless if you feel insulted, they are entitled to their opinion just like you are.
There is another side of this. For all the effort you do, there’s also ones who don’t put in the same effort. They throw it into a phone editor and use that for a 10 minute touch up. Throw on some vivid blur and you’re golden.
Not to mention the people who get the packs aren’t always bloggers. When it comes to group packs, as in SL’s group notices, they can’t just send it to bloggers. Everyone gets it. Other creators, event organizers, chat moderators, friends of the group, etc. There is also no guarantee they are getting coverage for that many free copies being thrown out.
Just be mindful there’s three sides to a story. Your truth, their truth, and the middle ground and they are all valid.
Who are you so I know never to read your blog?
This is exactly what I wanted to say. I wanna know if I follow this twat so I can unfollow lol
TL;DR, nah I’m not sharing my store name, but don’t worry about it. I make stuff that doesn’t appeal to generic Flickr thots with childlike faces, botox lips, and babygirl uwu aesthetics. Just keep begging for freebies from other creators, right?
That’s cute you think I shop at just those types of places. I happen to like a wide variety of stores but that’s cool. I don’t particularly want to shop at your store and probably wouldn’t anyway after all this is just your jealousy talking isn’t it.
I highly doubt they want your fugly ass merchandise at the rate you’re bitching about it 😂
They probably don’t; not because it’s “fugly” but because I don’t cater to the ugly botox babygirl uwu blogger aesthetic. Lol.
See, that is what worries me. My style is the polar opposite of what you describe as “botox babygirl uwu” and I would really REALLY want to avoid your store like it’s the plague. I think I might hop into random IMs asking if you hire bloggers just so I can identify you, just to avoid accidentally buying something from you.
You sure have issues, but they are your issues so stop blaming others for it.
Exactly!
#3 Right! It’s okay to have fun once in a while, and we’re all here for that experience. But please, take a shower and go outside to breathe some fresh air.
#11 Hasn’t she been caught stealing and modifying meshes from others? I’ve heard some stories about Saskia.
#12 I observed the drama in the last post, and the authority must be taken after that. Hoping for somebody’s DEATH after stealing something from them? GO OUTSIDE AND TOUCH SOME GRASS and… SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT WITH A PSYCHIATRIST!!! 😤
#15 The food did look gross… I’m sorry.
#26 Why you’re complaining when you could go to a different hair brand? At this point, you are just complaining because you’re bored.
#36 Wtf? 😶
#41 This is the dumbest one besides the Flexi hair post. What’s the coincidence? A heart behind their logos? Oh wow yeah, straight up the same and hasn’t been done before by multiple brands. 🙄
#41 das the point sis, lory complains about the dumbest things you can imagine sayin other stores copied her and loves to say it was already been done before “by her” and tryna act like shes this super original inovative brand. i dont think this secret was to say she copy >this< store specificaly (cuz shes always copyin others ideas n copybotting them as well) but to point out her hypocrysy, she dumb af
#12 oh and no one stole from her besides dat serena girl and raonhausomething, n they was not the ones who made posts exposin lorys threats, dat was lidia dallas n louise dernier. dont think for a second lory is a victim here cuz shes been doin this same shit with other brands for years n years. she probably manufactured this secret tbh, das right up her alley
Why do you type precisely like the person who posted the secret? LMAO girl… 🙄
not putting the g in the end? that’s not the same as typying the same, lol. calm down lory trashgrau
Bloggers are just a bunch of freebie hunters. Just call them what they are, freebie hunters.
Yeah cause spending 40 bucks a month if not more is freebie hunting, you’d not get very far as a blogger if you were in it just for the freebies.
Cry harder, leech. Begone with ye, back to the chamber of uwu daddy’s babygirl uncanny valley Sims models that you crawled out of.
LOL maybe you should spend less time bitching about bloggers and more time learning to make better products, want me to send you my mesher? hahahaha
I just wanted to thank you for providing support for the theory that if someone claims they’re brilliant, they’re actually stuck on mediocre. If you were truly smart, you’d realize your insults are weak and go do something better with your time. Like organizing your sock drawer. Remember, the tube socks go in the corner closest to your bed.
PS: I’ll be kind to you one more time. I don’t blog. I don’t have any close friends who do in the manner being discussed, either. Now you get to decide if I’m lying or have different motives for this comment. Cheers.
TL;DR
It’s summer, bitch, you gotta be insane to be wearing socks at this time of year.
Unless you have a thing for sweaty feet.
Do you?
If anyone is crying it’s you, getting so overwhelmed and whiny about events n their rules, if you don’t like their rules don’t join the event easy as that.
Honestly must be applying to shitty events because most big ones don’t have these types of rules and certainly don’t require every designers to load up a blog pack.
Love how the comments are calling people who don’t wanna give freebies to bloggers “entitled”… like expecting freebies isn’t entitled? Lmaoooo.
the overwhelming joy of seeing vtech die out, i only ever see it by pedos and hyper feme dramawhores that bitch and moan about not having clothing.
making clothes takes a long time and having to convert a mesh from a female version and mutilated it into a male version is unreasonable and the sheer entitlement i see all over sl related discords from gayboi rpers is disgusting.
“Male avatars who want to be slim & not a beefy gym jock are pedos”
Wtf lol. You’re retarded.
Sounds like you’re just mad because not everyone wants to have a bimbo female av. Sorry that not everyone wants to be your wank material.
To all the complainers of all the community RP sims… These people create a space for YOU to come roleplay. It is expected that you actually roleplay. Sitting there bitching that people don’t include you because you are huddling in a corner and not saying anything beyond a hello… come on. It’s not a sims responsibility to drag you out of your antisocial behavior and into the world of speaking. If you want RP, create some. Want to talk to people, start a conversation. Airing your personal woes here will get you nothing, but some weird satisfaction that the people who worked hard on the sims and events are hurt by your comments. Which says a lot more about you than it does about them.
You think it’s cliquey because people found other people to talk to on a regular basis, and who actually make an effort to RP with them when they are around. They talk to each other to fill the space left by all those standing around saying nothing in the hope you will join in. A clique is defined as “a small group of people, with shared interests or other features in common, who spend time together and do not readily allow others to join them.” I bet if you made an effort everyone else would too, it’s not that hard. If someone actually snubbed you after you made a genuine effort, I can understand. But don’t expect things to be served on a silver platter.
Think you can do better? Join the staff and help out.
Before you even go there no, I am not a sim owner or in the events team. Just tired of people’s entitlement over those who try their best.
New Haven, when it started, was a beautiful concept, and a lot more fun. It -is- cliquey to an extent, but it’s also a lot of other things. The sim owners went into the idea of New Haven as a community run group.. but it’s clearly not that anymore.
The multitudes of problems that have been going on in this sim are just too numerous to put in this forum. Drama, cliques, backstabbing, no roleplay, the list goes on and on and on.
“Think you can do better? Join the staff and help out.” Nobody thinks they can do better here. We know nobody can ‘do better.’ SL Roleplay no matter what sort of sim you find yourself in, is in a steady decline. True story telling is a dying art.
“Just tired of people’s entitlement over those who try their best.” – We get that they’re ‘trying their best’ but they let things go too far. Their ‘second chance’ policy accepting people from places that are clearly drama, clearly problematic is the problem here.
New Haven is just Woodland 2.0. And Fox Hollow. And CC. And every tried and failed “big sim” with many good ideas but poor execution. The ONLY thing New Haven has going for it is the lack of bigotry and racism we saw in Woodland. That’s sad.
This is it to an extent. A lot of people that walk around on rp sims are the “Notice Me” type and want people to come to them to start a rp. Everyone wants to be in the spotlight, the victim, the hero, the cool one and on and on. Though there are a ton of sims that people just sit in their houses and everyone’s like why not rp instead. Just because YOU are out looking for rp, doesn’t mean everyone else is at that time. A lot of people go afk in their sl homes to rl and come back later rather than logging out. So pull up the map and find clumps of people, then go where they are if it’s a public space and intermingle. Yeah there are rp sims in sl that have stuck up admins and one’s who think it’s their way or the highway. It’s a shitty way to be, but not all are like that. All in all, like the OP says, a place is being provided for people to rp free of charge if roleplayers just follow the rules. Admins cannot go out and force people to rp with everyone, so just find it where you can. Last time I checked it’s still an option to open your own sim and try to run a place. It’s not easy and sl ain’t a full time job like some of you people think. All you can do is realize going to a sim is like going to someone’s house. You don’t own it, so come by and try to have some fun. If you don’t, then check the next place or keep trying at it. People in sl are shy as fuck, and sometimes they want to rp, but don’t know how… Read more »
Mighty big talk for a keyboard warrior. How about this, The roleplay in New Haven isnt there, everytime you turn around all you see is an ad for this club called Coyote Ugly. Sounds pretty Unoriginal if you ask me. Then there is almost event after event at that place, Can you seriously not use other places but just that one place? As for Roleplay, I have walked around New Haven and tried to roleplay, I got a bunch of people standing in their house with their thumb up their asses. Make roleplay how you want? Honey I am a multiparagraph Roleplayer, I can make a whole scene all by my damn self. But its not about making a scene with yourself, its about making a story with others. What gets me the most? These four posts about New Haven go out and the next damn day, they are now doing roleplay classes. So its true that people dont roleplay and now you have to cover that up with a class? And its being taught by the sim owner, Good Job for at least trying to get people to come out. Might want to have your little helper, go back to her club and teach her “husband” to roleplay and come out of that club. He just stands around and doesnt do anything either. A little too late darling. Ive seen that the high ups dont do anything with others. All you hear about is Katya, Brittni and Zara or Nat doing something all together. No one really gives a shit people, we dont care what you all do. Katya admits she cant roleplay worth a shit. Brittni ran the hospital down to the ground and there is absolutely no roleplay there, and the courts? They are so far behind… Read more »
Keep sippin that salty tea
Exactly right. If people are bored at an RP sim, it’s mostly their own lack of imagination. Nowadays, everyone seems mindless and only seek to be entertained by the efforts of others, then they try to criticize. If you can do better, do better. Instead of leeching off others, try to generate RP on the sim, create for others, instead of only relying on others to create for you.
There is nothing Rpers hate to hear more than the calling out of their own bullshit. And that’s coming from an avid roleplayer who’s watched good sims utterly destroyed by this attitude. The people who have spent so much time and real life money to entertain you do not also owe you their free time. They don’t owe you their friendship either.
TL;DR
Most RP sims and their admins are degenerate cringe.
I respect those that actually do try hard to make a place for real RP… but those are few and far betwene. Lmfao.
Most of the ones who host RP sims are not providing a service to anyone but their friends and their own interests. Look at any RP community, and a small crowd gets all the attention with minimal effort, while the ones who try hard get a side eye and often ignored.
I’ve seen this in every RP community and I’ve roleplayed on and off for over 20 years. Communities come and they go because the people in power give all the good roles and power to a select power hungry few.
Too bad not every sim has a Jacob, they would succeed then
The problem is that people in new haven DO try. They get snubbed by katry brittni and the others. then when they DO try tojoin depts and staff they get a bunch of people who don’t care about them. it’s one thing to get upset by the posts totally understand that but 9/10 people who post here have tried but get the same lame treatment. its to warn people against getting their feeling hurt by a bunch of losers. bottom line is if you’re not trying to kiss some ass or fuck someone (apparently saige hexem.) you wont be included. at least in CC you get spoken to when you reach out.
Agreed. You get very snubbed. I’m confused on how someone (Kat) can say she does not roleplay but then hold a head position in a department. Is that because she is partnered to the sim owner? All of them are related in some way or form they are either family or fucking. They are not open to roleplaying with others. They stay in their little clique and snub everyone else out unless your the owners, then they will kiss your ass. Or fuck you in Kat’s case. People are tired of trying and getting pushed aside for losers. They have spoken up about it and it fell on deaf ears and now they are posting it here.
Saige here. Though I can fully understand all the issues surrounding the groups of friends in NH that some do, and some don’t allow people in. There is usually a reason behind keeping people out or why they are no longer in said group. All I have to say about that is Not everyone’s going to like everyone and as adults we should all know that. As for Depts and staff, there is a reason why others are picked over some and its usually because they aren’t in places like this crying about not having friends. Finally, as for trying to fuck someone (me) That shit needs to stop. My personal sexcapades are and never should be light to anyone. SOMEONE, may have a big ass mouth for telling all of the sl world that we boned but that dosnt mean I’m fucking everyone. Duces.
CC forces people to RP
BS on forcing them to rp, but really, what is the absolute point of renting high priced houses if not for the RP part of it? seriously you can get things so much cheaper if ya just want a house. The town is meant to be there to rp in.
Maybe because it’s a RP sim
Finally, someone said it
#24 – Seriously? Taking pictures is the definition of what a blogger IS! You must sell so many items that you don’t need the hard work of bloggers promoting you and the extra linden YOU would earn from it. And the point IS that they ARE paying with exposure. They post all over, not just on Flickr. As for Flickr, yes they changed not safe for work to Pro accounts only, BUT the majority of creators make content that wouldn’t need that! Flickr is alive and well. I buy a LOT of my stuff seen on blogs and Flickr. You need to get over yourself and stop being a Diva Creator!
Hard work?? Is moving a mouse around and clicking it hard work for you? You truly over-estimate your importance in the world. And in the equation of who is more important – the creator who spends alot of time scripting/meshing/rigging versus ‘oh hey i took some pics and did stuff in photoshop ta da’ which lets face it, you do it for likes/follows/needyness whatever. I have literally never purchased anything from a ‘blog’ – pretty much skip over them in fact because as stated before they are for the most so carbon copy generic mediocre pics ever. Saying that you have like your experience invalidates anyone elses shows you for how entitled YOU actually are – so no matter how hard you’ve tried to paint yourselves as victims and creators as the bad guys in these comments the reverse has happened. And no, I’m not a creator, so you can’t even console yourself with that delusion.
Flexi Hair wearers are hilarious. Thong-hair secret is amusing as hell. But imagine having all this new technology and mesh, and you choose to wear outdated hair that looks and performs like hair after being rubbed on with a balloon,
We all want to move on from 2009 for sure but saying that I bought this amazing afro style for a pic opportunity and it looks amazing in print. In reality though the thing was alive on my avs head like a 1D tentacled monster
If the hair is shorter than shoulder length, and dense enough that you can’t see all the flat prims poking out of your scalp, then a flexi hair might look ok- an afro is one of the very few styles that works. I’ve also seen a couple of shorter or updo styles that have a few flexi wisps and those can look ok too. But that’s about the limit of its usefulness.
There’s this whole group of people who honestly believe flexi hair is going to make a come back and replace mesh hair and I just can’t. It’s so bad
Not to even mention how shitty it looks around their scalps; it is so bad. When you consider that it’s high-complexity on top of being ugly as fuck, the whole idea comes off as beyond stupid.
You sound stupid af. Even popular bloggers are wearing flexi hairs. Just like ALL HAIRS..some are good, some are shitty. Grow up.
Found the flexi lover!
nah, sorry, just like flexi skirts, it’s outdated, overly complex and horrible looking
Oh yes. Bloggers. Who put a bunch of work into overpriced pixel Barbies and beg for freebie blogger packs. I should totally put their one-fits-all on a pedestal!
Most of them all blog the same stuff and copy each other…
Oh omggg not the BLOGGERS oh yes!!!! I sure do care what some creepy, uncanny valley ahegao-faced bimbo on Flickr/Twitter is wearing and thinks is trendy!!!1111
they are all shit! don’t even play
#9. #22. #37. #38.
New Haven managers posting about themselves for attention ROFL. The people in NH are not “popular” .. they are rejects from other communities and their alts. That’s the majority. I lived there and it did not live up to expectations. Since we are on the subject of New Haven events.. their events are stolen from other communities.
>they are rejects from other communities and their alts.
New Haven is a wonderful place because it keeps most of the super-problematic folk from World of Darkness sims in one nice little self-contained box that is easy to avoid.
Are you fucking retarded? How does one “steal events from our communities?”
YEP
#40 the “no rez” couples poses and huds work just fine if the people using them aren’t complete idiots and know to turn off their AOs, or if the hud doesn’t animate both avatars, one of the people understands they should choose a pose that works in combination with it. Every one of the huds comes with a way to adjust the pose on the X,Y,Z axis, so it’s only the laziest or stupidest people who use them wrong
Honestly that post just comes off as super salty, like my reaction was “tell everyone you’re lonely without saying that you’re lonely”. Besides, what kinda noob doesn’t know that animations don’t even display consistently from one user to another? Ctrl-S only refreshes things for the individual user, anything you’re seeing at any time could be different to someone else, as far as being synced up.
Same thoughts. Those couple poser HUDs are heaven-sent for photographers. I was like, “aww that poster must probably have nobody who wants to pose with them in public. How sad!” OR maybe they do not know how to edit and manipulate animations which anyone with an average IQ can do. My friends and I sometimes intentionally misalign the piggyback poser (head buried in crotch) when we are goofing around in public, lol
I would say they just want to experience RL in SL… But without stepping on each other’s foot 😂 😂
#10… Are you dumb? Legit half the people on there are OPEN about the fact that they have an alt… It’s not news. Nick, is very open about the fact that he is also Emily (which btw is now Ava.) and Alexi is very open about their alts. Everyone already knows.. Stop tryna stir drama where there is none. Jesus lol
A few of my friends had alts just to make lucky chairs and midnight mania go faster.
Alts aren’t often malicious. They’re just ways to escape a bunch of attention or to make other things go faster. Not to mention having a second person who doesn’t move around very much for pictures is so much easier than having a real person.
Whoever says they do not own an alt is a liar! EVERYBODY DOES! 🙄
I don’t have an alt. I have 3. LOL! 2 haven’t logged in years though.
I have 5 avatars and i use them all! Not every single day ofc it just depends on what i am up to that day!
Nick, Emily or Ava, Alexi are the same person. Yeah your boyfriend dates you on one account, is your sister on another account and on yet another account calls you smelly and stinky whenever there’s an audience…..and that’s after you were exposed on secrets for having bad hygiene and dirty feet. Apparently that still leaves them with a lot of accounts to spare to date other woman and men. If I were you, I’d question my self esteem and sit this one out
I wouldn’t question my self esteem at all. Especially not because an internet moron tells me to ♥ I wouldn’t suggest being a detective boo, as you are dead wrong. 😂 Continue to sit on the side lines and look like an idiot. 😌
Stinky dirty feet
Everyone literally has an Alt like tf all those people are open about it, Nick was messing around on his female alt the other night with a bunch of people and nobody had an issue with it, well I guess you did or whoever keeps posting this crap, Also Alexi isnt Nick, they are legit two different people, If Nick is Alexi then he sure does have a super computer to be able to have all those browsers open at once, get real most computers scream at you for having one SL broswer open, Whoever this is needs to move on and stop stirring drama its childish and idiotic and I know you are getting off to the fact people are responding to you cause thats the only way you can get joy out of your day but go harass someone else or do something more productive in SL FFS
If you’re not doing anything shady with your alts, you shouldn’t be worried about them being revealed.
They aren’t worried. Hence why they are so open about their alts. This is just an attempt (very poor one I might add) at trying to drag them down in the mud where the OP plays.