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  1. #39 the princess is speaking..and no one cares!! STF up you piece of human trash

  2. Glad I’m not the only one who feels that way about #1
    Gods they’re going to have an empty sim soon

    • So when you see someone protesting Ukraine war, is your response “but WW2 was fine, yeah?”?

  5. Kinda confused on the whole Kira situation… its been 2 years since the whole “KYS” situation. Plus the victim forgave the person and became an family member. Why are people still trying to cause problems for something thats been dealt with. Especially its not about YOU in specifics?

    • That’s not the focus at all

      Kira attacked two people being Chloe and Nebula and pretty much the TGS community

      When they claimed that all the proof was favoritism, others came out and shared their experiences with Kira. Dated or not she tried to say those were fake, but also gave the “it’s against tos”

      But if the logs are fake, how is it against TOS, and how does it being two years ago fix anything?

      If it was faked, they could easily ignore the posts and simply leave it alone, that would’ve been the mature way to handle it but they started throwing excuse after excuse.

      Two years ago means they actually did what was claimed, it’s pretty fucked up to try and cover that up.

      now they’re playing victim to the entire situation using “it’s been two years” as a way to avoid the blame. Regardless of time saying “kys” in ANY situation is going to hit back pretty hard, especially when 23 and my own comments show that Kira was caught breaking the rules on twitter

      now to make a thing real quick, you and a bunch of others are giving more details to this story that weren’t noted such as becoming a family member, discord messages, ect

      is this another fake name? Lmao

      • except they never tried to cover it up in fact they admitted to it multiple times in her own server even and have said they were forgiven for it which is also admitting they did it? also woopty doo a furry doesnt get along with two other furries who cares? also Kira noted several times that she was forgiven for it and that the person talks to them every day? its starting to sound like you dont have nearly all the facts of what happened and are just saying what you think is right?

      • There we go with more details, thanks for making it more obvious that they’re covering it up 👏

      • What makes you care bout it? Favoritism claim or not, why pursue such drama that doesn’t apply you?

      • Because, Kira clearly is never going to LEARN if she’s not held accountable. While 1 person out of HOW MANY has forgiven her. What about Zack and Ryan? What about Chloe and nebula? Just because she’s been forgiven by ONE person, doesn’t mean everyone else whom she’s gone after and attack has forgiven her…. What about the ENTIRE COMMUNITY of 7th heaven that trixie owned? Or the club owners she’s gotten herself banned from. This is MORE than just the Kys attacks. She doesn’t have any sort of respect or common decency and when called out plays the victim card. WHICH I know you ( as a friend or possibly just kira herself. ) Are falling for and also allowing to happen. IF her friends actually want kira to grow, they will make her own up to EVERYTHING. Not just ONE thing from 2 years ago.

        And I’m only calling this person out because they were a HUGE thing on here for a time. Soko…. Soko had a LOT of people calling her out on her shit, CONSTANTLY watching everything she did and if she did something that clearly wasn’t in the direction that she clearly stated she wanted to go, THEY CALLED HER ASS OUT. And honestly, look where she is now…. She’s actually showed she’s working on changing and fucking good on her. Proud of you. But I don’t think that without people actually getting on her ass, she would have made the movement to change.

        So, maybe a good bit of ” GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER KIRA!!” Will make her smarten the fuck up. But, you can only lead a stubborn ass to water for so long before it eventually dies. So, either she makes the choice to ACTUALLY change and SHOW that, or she will be washed away to the furthest parts of the furry community where NO ONE will have to see her anymore.

      • So hey i wanna mention this since u seem to be still going on
        me trixie noisette bovine and multiple others from 7th heaven are friends and they even visit my club occasionally also im only banned from furzona and tgs thats literally it. you sit here saying im not holding myself accountable yes i am i know i did shit wrong in the past and theres things i could have done better and like ive said multiple times i regret some of the decisions i made i apologized to chloe for the mistake i made a while back and she declined my apology in fact the night before all of this exploded she was asked by someone else in nearby voice if shed be willing to talk to me and settle things and she got mad at the person
        this will be the last time i comment on this because frankly im sick of it

        1. yes i made mistakes and im sorry i did but thats what people do they make mistakes
        2. i made up with almost everyone from 7th besides like 3-4 people
        3. i told chloe sorry and even now im still sorry
        4. i wasnt trying to stalk people u can say im covering my ass but im serious i was not aware of the rule of no camming at tgs until after drake msged me warning me about it and im sorry if it seemed like it was otherwise
        5. im sorry i hate to say this but no me making some mistakes isnt gonna erase me from the furry community or convince me to stop trying i have friends who follow me and spend time with me on sl i have my lovely models that i have to help and take photos of

        so in the end yes im sorry and yeah i made mistakes ive tried to right those mistakes that was my point in showing that i was forgiven for the kys thing is i righted that mistake and i am putting the effort in to make up for my issues and i hope i really do hope that eventually the people who are so mad about all this will talk to me privately no cussing no drama no screaming no sharing screenshots just talk to me like adults…
        sorry for the drama and if ive caused people emotional stress im sorry for that too it was never my intention <3

  6. #33 OMG! Another week with this dumb bitch. Someone trying to call her out obviously. We are all tired of your stupid ass gesturing everywhere you go. You are not lit in any way. You are not the goat of anything. Stop being fucking annoying and go away already.

    • She can barely spell, and seriously writes like someone who dropped out before middle school. That profile is a train wreck. It’s amazing how stupid people can swaddle themselves in ego and run around clueless about how others really see them.

  7. 25. Someone got banned from Maui. Either that, or your avi was too ugly to be accepted. LOL

    • I don’t think “too ugly to be accepted” exists at Maui, and I really wish it did. I’m not the only one who would hang out there more if there were actual standards being kept. There are a lot of truly hideous avatars at Maui- but then, some of the interviewers are also unfuckable, so what else could be expected? Just having mesh doesn’t make someone’s avatar look good, and that seems to be the only criteria anyone bothers with. Ugly also seems to get promoted a lot at Maui, because they’re always there; probably can’t get attention anywhere else. Really too bad, because the place is a good idea, just really poorly executed because I guess having traffic matters more than having the exclusive membership people expect.

  8. # 4, 5, 34, 37 need their own discord server where they can obsess over baby girl, baby face shit all day along with all the others who spin this broken record weekly. We like real tea and juicy gossip here or atleast I do. 😂

    • right??? like why are you so obsessed with underage dynamics… sus tbh…

      • They are just like those age players who get other age players banned and post them in secrets. Mentally unstable crazy people!

  9. 6 – Because unlike you, some people understand the concept of false equivalency. I’ll break it down further just in case my words are too big for you there. Black supremacy only exists as a kink and fringe-of-the-fringe political movement. White supremacy exists as everything from the Proud Boys to neo-Nazis to redlining families of color out of the real estate market.

    29 – Yeah, no, using “daddy” as a nickname for your top is not ageplay. There is a strong subculture in the gay leather scene where the doms are called “leather daddies,” but you do not see their subs wearing bib overall shorts and talking like a child. (Cishet kinksters make me want to choke a Karen some days.)

    37 – Facing what you did must have been horrible sometimes. I only started seriously getting the “this is how you get jail time” attention when I was 16. And you’re damn right about the child face/adult body situation.

    • You do know there are blacks and Hispanics in Proud Boys, right? Their national leader is Hispanic, in fact.

      • There were Blacks for Trump, too. Does that mean Trump isn’t racist? Some people join groups because they agree with part of the message but gloss over what they don’t like. Why do you think there are so many religious people in the world who conveniently overlook the parts of the Bible where shit happens that’s morally indefensible?

      • No one mentioned Trump. Apparently he is living in your head rend free.
        But since you mentioned him, let me ask you this? If he’s so racist, how did he get awards from Jesse Jackson for his work with inner city kids? Or the Ellis Isle award for helping immigrants, while standing next to Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali? Because both of these things happened.

      • 1 – you know you can share the same physical space with a nonwhite person and still be a racist sack of shit, right? lmao

        2 – “hispanics”. you meant latino and latino is an ethnicity. i know race, nationality, citizenship, and ethnicity, keep fucking you up but please know that one can be a white latino, a black latino, an asian latino, and an indigenous person who is also latino. look at the latinos in south america with long german names. or japanese peruvians? wonder how that happened? i can tell you lol.

        3 – proudboys being open opportunity doens’t mean they’re not a hate group? most of those nonwhite idiots joining think they’re the exception. same thing goes for women who turn on other women. etc etc. you lot like to eat but not be eaten but your time will always come lol.

  10. Yo so i saw the comment on 21-22-23 and i gotta say ive seen all the photos and whats going on and it does seem like Kira is the one being bullied not the other way around i mean your posting about her here over something stupid from a long time ago sooo i agree with rorschach yall need to get over your petty bs and move on (and yes ive seen all the screenshots youve posted that she did but that was a long time ago and frankly doesnt matter)

    • And you’re telling me she’s innocent after deleting the entire feed?

      How can they fight back if they don’t stand their ground, hiding is for liars and Sir/Madam, Kira is fucking lying.

      Literally everyone proved it in their posts. It was to prove an accusation that Kira made wrong. How is that Petty BS?

      Sure things in the past can be left in the past, but things like saying “KYS” and literally threatening others can have very real consequences. There’s plenty of stories where one word is all it takes.

      The bully is Kira honey. They got caught, played victim again and again, and it’s just going to keep happening until they can clean up their shitty behavior.

      • Like said, she said she’s not innocent, she also confessed, but as things are, you guys are just paparazzi’s and making drama. It’s been settled already, no need to go more than it has to be already.

        Plus, with “Behavior”, quoting after you, “…it’s just going to keep happening until they can clean up their shitty behavior.”

        Does that mean you’ll keep doing your actions to Kira?

      • Is this like your first time here, because that’s what this site is, welcome to the club

      • Dude wrong is the alt! They played bad guy to their own argument.

        “So i cant respond to your reply directly (wrong) because its not been approved”

        post a comment wait for approval. They just exposed themselves.

        Kira<3, fenfen<3, wrong, how many alts do ya need?

      • its just a furry thats being bullied on twitter for something they did two years ago and for not liking certain other furries as always just furry drama on sl lol

      • Bitch Kira IS the bully, don’t try to weasel out of it, oh right this IS kira afterall. Classic kira moment right there 🤣

        Come’s over and say they’re innocent, yet the many claims that they cleared it are nowhere to be found and BASELESS

        No proof, no alibi. “Oh they cleared it up on a server, I know they wouldn’t do that” BULLSHIT! Logs or it didn’t happen, oh right those can be faked xD

        Also keep using “u” and proclaim this as highschool drama. Girl go back to hischool and REEDUCATE YO DUMB ASS

        How many times are you trying to prove yourself, you got caught above using the same name as “wrong” down below, you tried to play good cop AND bad cop, AND FAILED. You’re once again proving everyone who the real bully is by coming back and throwing more elements into a case with NO FUCKING PROOF

        Sit down and look at what you did, think about it, next time you might notice the pattern

      • https://gyazo.com/01b734d97bda441bca312cff7a95f6de
        come back when u get something factual plz and stop making up random comments and statements im tired of my friends commenting on yalls bs and dealing with it the literal person involved in the past drama is pissed yall are even doing this and making the decisions for him and has apologized to me multiple times because when he sent the screenshots to ryan he was promised they would never be used in public or sent to people.

      • Dead link idiot. Next time stick to fen fen. Your other kink is just censored bullshit.

      • You’re making no sense here

        First the link is dead and nobody has spoken up about this. Keep preaching to the choir honey it’s funny~

        Oh and the screenshot above, yea keep hiding the fact it’s a fake xD

      • So lets put this straight. Ryan only shared shit AFTER YOU had started shit and also was ATTACKING HIM while speaking to his TWIN FUCKING BROTHER. Are you that fucking retarded?! Not just that, but recently, by that I mean earlier this month….Pretty sure it was either march 3rd or 4th, unsure. But I know RYAN had to drop things down in his own defense because YOU made claims he was stalking and harrassing you AND telling the owners of clubs to ban you. THAT is a HUGE thing to accuse someone of. More so the manager of a club! WHO BTW, if ALL the higher ups didn’t make the decision to ban you, WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR BOSS.
        Since well he’s a MC manager. Just like his brother. But he got there a few weeks before you just to get you banned? He’s been a manager since shortly after it re-opened darling. Not to mention, his brother shortly after he quit? Or got fired? I forget, from pounce because of how shitty they were. Either way, you weren’t banned because of ryan telling the team, you got banned because of you starting shit BEHIND the scenes while the decision to hire you was being made…. You shot yourself in the foot Kira.
        You go around blaming other people for YOUR fuck up’s. You go around attacking people and then expect to not get consequences for it. Your consequences for your actions, is getting banned from places, for losing friends and getting fucking drug through the mud on the internet. So, you need to understand, it’s not just the ” go kill yourself” Line that people are ripping you out for. It’s also you attacking well known people and blaming everything on them, when in fact… It’s YOUR actions, YOUR choices that got you here. Maybe you’ll learn from this Kira…. Or maybe you won’t.. Who knows. Hope you have the day you deserve.

      • unhide the name! Otherwise it could be anyone saying it and not the actual person. This screenshot holds no merit in this argument.

      • Tries to threaten administrative action when the threats made to the individual also require administrative action

      • threatening LL action when LL will get involved for the death threats, you are indeed a certified idiot

        No dates, no names, all the bullshit

      • Okay so… this is pretty dumb tbh. Why try correct me? I never said she was innocent, and we all acknowledged that what she did a couple years ago today was bad. Down right to the dirt bad, but it’s been settled, why talk about it today? It doesn’t involve you personally. Nor do you have to be entitled.

    • So i cant respond to your reply directly (wrong) because its not been approved but im sorry u can sit here and try all you want and say u have all these posts but so does Kira and shes shown where multiple of the people involved have admitted they lied or that they said they already forgave her for this stuff in fact one of them whos screenshot got shared by zach or ryan the one who she said KYS to apologized to kira for these issues because zack/ryan were not suppose to share the screenshots anywhere because it had already been dealt with between kira and the person. Whats petty bs is you and others sitting here on a website talking about someone with an issue you werent even originally involved in and slandering them on twitter its like your digging for drama that is why you guys are the bullies. also kira deleted the posts so what? she didnt want drama being on her feed for everybody to see and worry about? (u can be mad about what she did in the past but theres no reason for u to get every single person u see involved this isnt highschool.)

      • “So i cant respond to your reply directly (wrong) because its not been approved but im sorry u can sit here and try all you want and say u have all these posts”

        The only time you can’t reply to posts due to approval, is when you hit “post comment” meaning you just sent that, and tried to reply to your own post

        Congratulations, you just played yourself

      • So you’re telling me you saw screens of them goin like “aww bb I forgive u <3”

        Yea sure post em and prove us wrong, oh wait you can fake discord screenshots, accounts, everything. Pretty easy when you can make a server profile and boom I’m kira now. yea this isn’t the first time around the digital world sister, you’re just using every trick to try and get out of it.

        How about instead of screenshots, have the people say something instead? Oh right cuz you don’t have that account honey. Keep trying to find a way out, we’ll be here when your jenga tower falls

      • the person is in Kira’s Discord server and they have been in calls in the server too at the same time as Kira during parties and game nights and in the club itself voice channel???? there’s oodles and oodles of proof of this if u did literally any actual fact checking you’d know this??? now do yourself a favor and just stop complaining

  11. #42 Funny that I had the urge to see if SL is still the same shit show .. and then this post.
    I have known i guy named Shiro, but i guys there are a few in SL….but if you are that Shiro from my past. I hope you stay safe and find your way into the Real World Happiness. I have.

    But since its SL and not to sound sour .. but i guess it is that Shiro but this post is for another Lady … lol.

    Greetings from Germany

  12. Wow, boring week.
    #1-36
    Don’t care.
    #37
    Oh okay so lets just assume everyone is underage and leave it at that, don’t you dare do anything explicit with anyone unless they send you over their birth certificate, their drivers license or some other form of photo ID! Shut the fuck up you freaks lmao.
    #38-43
    Don’t care.

  13. #21 – 23

    Hoo boi do I got some shit to say about this bitch. I was surprised to see nothing last week but I guess VS was just catching up with all the drama. Haven’t really seen much on the furry side which is pretty rare. I’ve been watching the tweets and I’ll give my piece on the subject because there’s a lil more that wasn’t said or mentioned.

    From what I understand, a popular character that goes by the name of Chloe decided to give a vent on their twitter. This is pretty normal considering twitter can have pretty much anything as long as it doesn’t break the rules. What I didn’t understand was the context behind it because holy shit the roller coaster afterward.

    https://twitter.com/moommymilky/status/1498615487680372736

    https://i.gyazo.com/80f2b366aed119b24e68174dd0d9a5a7.png
    Needless to say they weren’t taking it well. And now we can easily verify who their attacker was considering they just openly called Chloe out. Shortly after that post it looks like another person that goes by Nebula decided to confront the issue and that went south. Kira again started attacking them and claiming the group was corrupt. HOW??? From the two exchanges I’ve seen, you’ve done nothing but be an ass to people in the community so of course you’re getting kicked out.

    So after trying to claim Chloe was to blame, it’s nebula now. Well Nebula wasn’t having that so they confronted Kira and posted logs of their conversation for transparency. Good on ya girl! 👍
    https://twitter.com/SlNebula/status/1499193793987239937

    What did catch my eye was her comment using her studio account (block evasion …) to try and explain herself, she also said that she would be deleting the entire conversation which is just what she did, but we’ll get to that in a moment.

    “you threw a tissy fit and blocked me then right after literally one of the people u claim i “abused” said they have no fuckin clue what ur talking about and that we are fine xD”

    Who did you abuse, who’s fine? First off, this is abuse behavior! Speaking for them is the first sign of abuse, why do you think there’s so many cases about it. “don’t talk to my girlfriend/boyfriend they’re fine!” classic fake out to prevent them from talking and getting help.

    Again, who did they abuse?

    Well it didn’t take long because a certain fire dog decided to get involved. I’ve been following him since the whole soko fiasco but it looks like they patched things up now. I was surprised that they called out Muk (threatening suicide because he wasn’t giving them attention or something idk) and now this… I don’t know how he can be so quiet about these things. Like he’s strong, but how is he emotionally? Zack also seems to be no stranger to VS content, he’s been used in attacks, attacked himself, and simply brushed them off like they never happened. That’s pretty mature seeing other furries use them as an excuse to start drama.

    https://twitter.com/SlZack/status/1499219641607942144

    Oh…

    So on top of Kira attacking Chloe and Nebula, they’ve attacked his actual family too. I thought he wouldn’t act up but he had more than enough proof to literally put Kira in their place. I didn’t understand the attacks until his brother Ryan spoke up but now I think I’ve pieced together what happened

    Kira was living on the same sim as Zack and Ryan who were security members for the place. A fight broke out, some residents were found hiding in their home and they tried to figure out the situation. Zack gave full evidence of this showing LITERAL DEATH THREATS saying to “KYS”, “I’d rather torture her”, and “I’ll be making your lives hell”. That’s some serious baggage and I can see why Zack and Ryan stayed quiet for so long. Hopefully they reported that to Linden Labs because holy fuck Kira need some serious help!

    Kira was banned from the zone, came back as an alt, and was promptly banned again which is why Zack was claiming ban evasion. Makes sense in SL logic.

    It was at this time that Kira than accused Zack of posting on this very site…look I’m no expert but if Zack did post there’d be more evidence. Zack showed logs that were already on this page calling Kira out for their behavior, their crappy club, ect. Why didn’t he join on that bandwagon since he clearly had the full info? Oh yea HE DOESN’T DO DRAMA! The only time I see him go out of his shell to start something is to defend a friend, himself, and it’s not for clout. He comes packing his guns with legit proof using none of the typical “he said she said crap!”. He’s got evidence for pretty much every accusation he’s gotten and has easily proved himself among content creators as one of the nice guys.

    So knowing the baggage from 7th and how Kira was accusing his bro (oh that makes sense now)
    He’s had enough and simply wants to end it. The accusations were stalking, harassment, and I think lies but seeing how we’ve already watched kira, we know that’s all false. Speaking of others, notice how Kira started claiming those logs were faked, well if they’re fake how exactly are they against the TOS.

    Plus you responded to Mystral posting logs when they tagged kira, so that claim is bogus and they just confirmed it was truth.

    https://twitter.com/Mystral12/status/1499228423738335232

    Kira also goes into detail about that drama being two years ago (FAKE OR REAL, WHICH ONE IS IT BITCH!) revealing others involved in the incident being Trixie (owner of the sim at the time) and Noisette who I’m going to guess was a resident or someone with authority like Zack and Ryan. Either way Zack quickly noted that when Kira tried to say they did it first, it’s honestly entertaining how he can spot a fakeout so quickly xD

    Well aside from 7th heaven and death threats it looked like smooth sailing, until Hentai mafia. From what I gathered from Ryans post which went into great detail about Kira stalking others in the grid, she knew the sims Ryan was one, made dumb claims as to his involvement, and started making excuses which he easily pointed out.

    https://twitter.com/IRyanISL/status/1499881913439322112

    Hentai Mafia – My first experience with the sleepover event. It was bubbly, fun, and quite entertaining to partake in the games! I joined the discord to see if there were more fun items and I can confirm that kira did make some dumb fucking claims in the general chat Ryan provided. They didn’t even make a single reply so again keeping quiet is the best way to handle things. You don’t feed a troll after all and they weren’t feeding Kiras drama letting it sort itself out.

    Club Ren – Not much to say except the same thing, sleepover event. Zack was there because of muck I believe, he helped in making a video with them based off a KDA video which was pretty good! Kira went to Zack as a staff member and tried to seduce them, but instead were reminded about how their brother did something bad OoOoOoO… Zack kindly asked if they would stop, Kira kept going and ya know the rest.

    Furzona – I fucking love this one! So Kira accused Ryan of following them over to furzona just so he could get them banned. Last I looked he’s a manager, he was already a staff member, and if they had a falling out it would make sense to mention it, but most venues don’t really care about personal drama…so I’m guessing Kira did something that forced their hand. Considering this is the same FZ we’re talking about and the whole FK shit, FZ is pretty quiet about most things so credit where credit is due…keep doing it. You’re team is handling things much nicer than other places I’ve seen on the grid.

    TGS – Okay NOW I understand what Ryan meant by stalking, aside from other venues TGS was the one Zack provided with Ryan claiming Kira was on the sim chatting with Ryan and talking about his dick. Okay sure that’s common SL bullshittery, until Ryan mentioned Trixie. Essentially Kira did the same thing on 7th and threw their camera into a spot where they could see his brother and guest. TGS states a no camming rule in private areas, I’m guessing that was breached. Zack asked for permission (well more like pushed it but since Ryan looks to be quieter than Zack it makes sense so he had to take over xD)

    So now stalking, attacking Chloe and neb, we get a better idea of why Kira was removed from TGS. They did a dumb and thought they could get away with it. They broke rules on the sim and were promptly punished for it.

    The entire time this was happening Kira started to delete the replies, the conversations with others in an attempt to look innocent, but forgot about their photography studio replies…Yea what a professional. They got caught, tried to play it off as the victim and made it even worse by deleting the conversations PROVING that they were guilty. #23 shows that perfectly! And no it’s not a fake screenshot because you look through the replies and find this…
    https://i.gyazo.com/5fc157e1bd06b357647689f07fcbc7ac.png

    Which I’m going to guess is this tweet right here…
    https://i.gyazo.com/956d67b34834a2cf04e1a8ad18c5e32b.png

    “I never told anyone to kys in a long time”, oh so you don’t deny it now???

    Well here’s the thing, Zack clearly gave evidence showing that kira did indeed say “kys” multiple times. But those are SL logs. Twitter won’t care since it’s not on their platform meaning that somewhere in the feed or dms, they did it again if not multiple times!

    I don’t know what other proof people needs but I’m going to be avoiding that individual for practically the rest of my SL life. They’ve earned a permanent spot on my block list and I prefer to keep it that way. No amount of “I’m sorry” is gonna fix what they did and playing the victim is just going to make it worse.

    • jesus u go on and on and on nobody actually cares about this drama other then like a group of 10. On top of that people have seen the photo kira has where some of the people involved admitted they were lying in IMs not naming any names cuz im not you , Zach isnt even the one who got hurt so stop trying to baby him by saying hes such a strong individual kira hurt someone else and now that person is there friend and they are even in kiras server and admitted to the whole issue being already dealt with and forgiven.In fact the person is part of her SL family to this day! get your facts straight and if u really wanna move on then shutup about it for once. Hypocrite your the real bully by keeping it going (ps deleting the comments on twitter isnt a bad thing it prevents other people from seeing and get mixed into the bs but here you sit commenting about it on a public website including usernames and profiles in your info like a child) #therealabuserisyou!!

      • #trendsetter #stfukaren #educatethisbitch

        ps deleting the comments on twitter isnt a bad thing it prevents other people from seeing and get mixed into the bs but here you sit commenting about it on a public website including usernames and profiles in your info like a child

        oof might wanna get some grammar lessons before trying to shove all that into a sentence. A few commas and less u’s could help you sound more intelligent.

        Hahahahah no. Hiding a tweet means there’s something bigger going on because if Kira was innocent, they’d have nothing to fear. Instead they blocked out all the tweets related to the topic. There’s no mix up, she turned tail and ran off like a little bitch to try and find another way to play the victim like so many fucking times.

        Also like others have stated, you and so many others are only focusing on one point about Zack, the KYS post. 

        Here’s the shit you idiots don’t understand Zack himself made a public post stating his issue with Kira was the fact they defaced his brother. Kira came back saying the screenshots were “half assed”, and since that didn’t work he brought heavier proof showing their abuse to others.

        Time don’t matter, that did happen. It don’t matter if they made up or fucking broke up. IT HAPPENED! And from his experiences that’s two people if not 3 that he knew who were being abused by Kira. Another fun fact is you people all saying they’ve “patched things” but none of them have actually come out to clear the story. Nope it’s just Kira and a bunch of nobodies on an anonymous webpage being hatful. Damn must be Virtual Secrets

        you sit commenting about it on a public website including usernames and profiles in your info like a child

        https://i.gyazo.com/612bf3f283b89e55efbc72f219edc1d1.png

        Oh but I guess kira is excused from that behavior huh #Hypocrite
        Trying to expose someone for “breaking tos” but to use the same thing is hypocrisy. Oh look at that, the tweet that broke the rules is still there! I wonder if that’s fake 🤣

        Kira claimed the whole drama from two years ago was fake, not a good look since you all use it to defend her. Also where’s all the “TGS IS RIGGED, CHLOE BANNED ME, SO I SPOKE TO NEBULA AND…” tweets at, oh yea GONE. Every time they get caught they delete the post.

        https://twitter.com/KiraUnuki/status/1471606390351400965 watch em delete that now xD
        https://i.imgur.com/vI7mWR0.png

        Deleting conversations to hide and play victim
        comment about something and try to play it off as fake…yet the very moment someone
        confronts them with said “fake” drama, they go into defense using every excuse in the book.
        “it was 2 years ago”, “I haven’t said kys in a long time”, “I’m talking with them now, they have no idea what they’re talking about” and provide little to no actual proof aside from their word alone…yea that’s called BULLSHIT.

        How about have someone other than anon come over and prove me wrong, and don’t give me some half assed screenshot blurring out icons and names. I know you can fake shit so don’t try it with me. I’m the one that linked the webpage for the discord spoofer. Even better, have that same person that says it’s all good, FUCKING TWEET ZACK and clear it up!

        “Oh they don’t wanna get involved, they don’t want the drama.”
        Yea dumbass they’re in a discord claiming it was over so they got some balls to talk publicly, unless… 👀

        Next on the agenda is Ryan

        If kira has nothing to hide, why contact Zack’s brother during the shit show and make more accusations?

        https://twitter.com/IRyanISL/status/1499881948327464960
        “I know this, I know that” blah blah blah, no you don’t. He already explained how those were public locations during a sleepover event so he was just a regular person like everyone else.

        Does anyone else see the pattern here???
        the death threat log shows them making accusation of people trying to ban her unfairly

        Accuses Ryan of stalking her to get her banned from locations
        Accuses TGS of being unfair and banning her due to popular people pleading
        Accuse Tzukaza (that’s the one in the death threats if you don’t know :P) of getting them banned from places…

        Yea I’m not dumb, I know who Kaza is and good luck trying to prove me wrong 🙂

        Also the claim Zack made was Kira was accusing Ryan of stalking her, so why is kira constantly denying the exact opposite? Sounds like somebody has a guilty conscience

        If you can’t see the red flags, you need to stop talking. Kira has tried to avoid the blame for so much drama that THEY have started. It’s plain as day, yet you sit here and try to defend them.

        And to shut you down, I’m not taking sides, frankly I don’t care. I just enjoy tearing apart idiots posts because they’re so idiotically one sided to the point it’s obvious you’re just desperate to try and get attention.

        Oh and if you look above, some of those white knights have shown to be double agents, nice one fenfen<3

        So yea, you’re full of hypocrites

      • 1) All the supposed evidence of kira prooving innocence is In their discord. There they can fake pretty much anything and get away with it.

        2) kira got caught using multiple names posting to fight this and even play their own bad cop (fenfen<3 , kira<3, wrong,) not a good look for somebody trying to claim they're innocent

        3) kira and everyone trying to defend them are using the drama from two years ago as their main focus. But kira called it fake…uh oh!

        https://twitter.com/KiraUnuki/status/1471606390351400965?t=mDhZjCPpxv5-5mhx8zUkcw&s=19

        So guess it wasn't fake :3

        Yea no I'm with cosmo on this. Kira is the abuser

      • Zack had posted because his RL brother was being attacked. It says it right on his sl profile that he’s Ryan’s twin brother moron.

        First Ryan gets attacked in hentai mafia trying to support Zack for the villain video (you got that backwards cosmo)

        Than Zack gets harassed at club Ren by kira and tries to play it off and snuggle em. Considering he’s been featured by SL multiple times I’m sure she was trying to cozy up to them and ask or photos, but he doesn’t do commissions.

        Look at snags
        Rather
        Bjorn and Belle
        Pancake
        Jordan
        Aeeykay

        ALL OF THEM ARE IN THE TGS COMMUNITY

        And they all have a pretty big following behind them. Fucking clout leach

    • hi there so a couple of things

      1. I never denied telling someone to kys yes its a big mistake i made and i already payed for it and made up with the person and i apologize to them to this day for it happening and they are one of my closest friends
      2. i denied stalking ryan and the other people he claims i stalked and those other people even agreed ryan is wrong and i never did anything to hurt them which i have proof of so u can drop that
      3. i never got banned from twitter literally ever they sent me a notification saying since it was an outside source issue to just watch what i say and that was literally it
      4. you claim all of these bullying things but you sit here and post things horrible about me and others u say peoples names singling them out in your posts and u never shutup about it which is why now people are turning against your claims and issues and getting fed up with it
      5. all i wanted to do was move on and have everyone be ok and not fight which is why i deleted the posts to forget about it but u just keep going on and on and not allowing everyone to move on so just stop plz.
      6. the small lil tidbits on the side like breaking tgs rules to see trixie and ryan and shit….honestly who cares its a sim on secondlife and camming on nearby is a part of secondlifes features so honestly whatever

      (im thankful for the people on both twitter sl and this website commenting and saying theyve had enough plz be safe ok?)

      • Talking for those you’ve harassed is complete bullshit. That’s abuse honey. Let em out of the cage. They’ll never come back.

      • Nobody said you got banned from Twitter dumbfuck. You broke the rules and got in trouble. Thanks for the confirmation.

        “i denied stalking ryan and the other people he claims i stalked and those other people even agreed ryan is wrong and i never did anything to hurt them which i have proof of so u can drop that”

        Proof or it didn’t happen. Do we need to ask everyone in that hentai mafia page and find out you lied again. Typical. Oh right you got those avatar trackers too…yikes 😬

        Trixie
        Noisette
        Nitska – nitska OWNS the sleepover event…
        Zane
        Rasberry
        katsuo
        We already got ryan and zacks side

        You didn’t delete it to move on, you went to hide. Because if you moved on you wouldn’t have accused em of stalking and just ignored the whole scenario and stayed quiet.

        You got loud and caused attention, people put you back in your place and you chose to have a tantrum. Your axolotl might look pretty, but your ugly attitude is what we all see.

    • So adding to that sleepover, Nitska openly called Zack because he’s involved with Linden Labs on those new community page projects. I’m going to guess he was thanking Nistka for involving sleepover. With that in mind, He’s literally working with SL to create new content and represent the furry community. In other words, he’s practically being watched 24/7 by lindens so if he’s really the bad guy in all of this…LL gonna notice xD.

      https://www.picarto.tv/YFS/videos/631548 (Big stream, 18+ obviously)
      Timestamp is 5:22:10

      And for those who don’t want to view the entire stream, yes I watched this to the end.
      https://files.catbox.moe/q3pytj.mp3

      There were tweets mentioning a project he had but it was nothing specific except for like 18k words for a webpage seeming overkill. He also talks about his photo projects and gives a few cheeky sneak peaks (hehe cheeky)

      He’s like most of the good people he interacts with, they don’t shove clout like crazy and simply wish to make things. It’s earned my approval and I hope he continues to do more video projects. It’s quite rare to see someone do content OTHER THAN PORN and the camera work he does is quite amazing.

  14. #39 All the SL trash was commenting. They’re all a bunch of hypocrites. They don’t like it when customers tell them how much of a fuck up they are and yet they have no problem trashing other designers. Pathetic!

  15. #19 Raissa your a POS! And thats coming from a Black Woman! All you do is sit on SecondLife and Facebook and claim your so white. But then racist shit comes out your sorry ass dick sucking mouth and suddenly your Puerto Rican and hate white people. But your avi is white? Stick to what you know best and thats being a racist piece of shit! You were ANTI BLM 3 months ago now your Anti Whites? Confused little girl. Sit your ass down and find a new hobby besides running your worthless racist ass mouth!

  16. #14 SYNDICATE is the best! I should know. I love to show up there with an empty wallet and expect the staff’s full attention babbling on in my lady voice, they love it!

    • Lmao of course they love you you’re a guy they view you as a potential cash opportunity. As fergie once said “if you ain’t got no money take your broke ass home”.

    • Lady voice? i wouldnt go as far as saying you sound like a lady .. a bit camp sure .. but lady naaah  😅  😅  female Alt maybe?

  17. 43.
    You are a nasty piece of work aren’t you. Most European countries have fashists of some sort or neo nazis or whatever you want to call them. Russia while not really European has them too. Plentiful. Should we invade and destroy entire countries for what a few select people are doing? What about the US? I vividly remember people with swastikas and nazi flags gathering in the Orlando area harassing people on the street last month.

    I think it is well know that the Azarov battalion needs to be punished and removed for their imagery and views but invading a whole country and destroying it’s infrastructure, killing children by shelling hospitals and hunting civilians, yeah, that’s not it. Support the civillians of both countries as they are both suffering right now. Russia and the Ukraine.

    • I think the issue is, they have embraced the Nazi regiment into their own army. They have embraced it, and accepted it. Do you see Nazi symbols and flags in other militaries? If you did, it would be concerning, no?
      Setting aside the whole issue of Naziism in Europe or more specifically Ukraine, they have an issue with corruption and child trafficking there, do they not? Did Russia not go in and liberate a bunch of trafficked kids not too long ago, from Ukraine?
      Does Ukraine not have Biden, Pelosi and Kerry’s son placed into board member positions on powerful power companies in Ukraine for no reason? You don’t remember the scandal, do you?

      I wonder, if when China invades Taiwan, will there be all these people with “support Taiwan” profile pictures? Will other countries be sanctioning China? Will people leave their country to fight for Taiwan? Will media, and government, and celebrities, they will all stand up for the injustice in Taiwan yes?

      We both know they won’t, and why? Ask yourself that question, heavily. Why Ukraine? Why are the corrupt ones, so interested in Ukraine?

      Does this mean common people should suffer? Of course not, I don’t think that for anybody in any country, war is horrible.

      i also think corporate corruption in politics, child trafficking, and nazis are horrible.

      • Corruption is not a reason to start a war, a country should be able to clean up their own messes, or not. It is not on anyone to go in and police them. I very much stand by that for all countries and all wars.

        Besides having lived in Russia for years and years before I left I can tell you this is a situation where the kettle is calling the pot black. Trafficking is wild in Russia, corruption? Oh dear god do not get me started on that the only way to get shit done there is to pay someone or you will be waiting for years to get any help.

        Neo Nazi’s in the military… yeah… exists there too.

        And besides if their war is so just, why do they ban non state run news agencies and make it illegal to speak of the war in a light they do not like. Nevermind banning the access to several apps?

        And if you are insinuating racism makes people care so much about the Ukraine… There were massive protests for years when the US went into the middle east and Taiwan might just get more help than the Ukraine too as many American corporations in the tech industry have massive interests in that country.

        I am however still laughing at the idea that Russia is not corrupt. It might just be one of the most corrupt places I have ever lived in and I’ve lived in 8 countries…. Should we invade them for that?

        Good thing European countries are finally arming themselves and taking the Russian threat seriously, they’ll need it in the coming years. Sadly all hope is lost for my home country as they have turned into a total puppet state for Russia.

      • You really drank the Kool-Aid, huh? Seriously just won’t give up on the Hunter Biden laptop thing, and what about Hillary’s emails?!!! Just stop, these stories were red herrings from the word Go, which is why nobody ever found evidence to do anything about them. You’re putting the horse before the cart in assuming that anyone interested in affairs in Ukraine mut have some other motive, be it money or because they’re white. Sure it’s possible there was corruption or bribery or whatever, but no matter what happened, not one of those things justifies what Putin is doing. If they have Nazis, if they’re corrupt, if they’re racist, none of that should be Putin’s affair. And yes, people will stand up for justice in Taiwan, just like the world was outraged at China’s behavior toward Hong Kong when they were fighting for independence. Learn to rely on news sources other than OAN, Fox News, and Breitbart.

  18. Enlighten us with your fake sober story go on. Complete your sentence Chester let’s feel sorry for you to what’ pain you experienced in life but everyone on websites doesn’t care. Why not go on your 4chan or your kiddo land shota websites your friend use to run posting illegal content online.

    • I think most (if not all) know about Chester and his history with Alexander Weebo. Chester confuses me, sometimes he will have something reasonable to say. Then I look at the loser he is with and the whole respect plummets.

      Chester really should not be creating issues, considering the mess his partner puts himself repeatedly.
      No reasonable and balanced person would support anything like Alexander or claim it as a partner. Let’s not go into the amount of kids that Alexander was fucking behind his back.
      Chester can’t be that good on a poseball, otherwise his partner would not be looking for tail in other places.
      How degrading must that be ?

      Another troublemaker that was allowed far too much rope and allowed to survive in the cesspit.

  19. #20 funny how you cut off the discription text on that Flickr pic of Julala’s that explained it, also…why target one person who wasn’t even part of the group if you feel so strongly about it…I mean…it almost looks like you were just taking a driveby opportunity to throw shit at Julala……..so…..using an ethnic minority as a moral smoke screen for what was just really your own personal agenda….what does that say about YOU….

    Maybe you like to think you’re just “keeping it real” huh? Nah…that’s just manipulative self-serving BS right there. You’re as fake as your faked moral high ground. Be ashamed.

    • I don’t really think the extended description makes it much better. Playing into racial stereotypes at the behest of RPers (who are more than likely playing a race that is not their own, especially judging from the fact they’re broadly using a slur that most Roma people don’t claim) still isn’t cool. Saying “we’re not REALLY like this, don’t worry” rings pretty hollow when you’re still pushing racist beliefs.

      For anyone else who was curious, this is the rest of the description:
      “I should point out that this is not meant in any way disparaging of any group of people. We were visited by a wonderful group of nomads who call themselves gypsies. It was their wish to do this shoot and is meant only in fun. We welcome gypsies and travellers to our lands. And we absolutely gave them the apples…..but they’re not keeping our scribe.”

      • it’s nothing to do with Roma…..the group use the term as defined in the Dictionary “a nomadic or free-spirited person”. It is only people like you and the person that posted the original post that made it about Roma…. it’s a bit like someone saying “I’m throwing this pink dress out” and someone coming along and complaining that it’s a nasty slur against the singer “Pink”. Words sometimes have multiple meanings…the OP just decided to make it about something they could pretend to be outraged about so they could have a dig about someone they are jealous of. Playground bullshit.

      • When the original definition of a word is a slur and the vast majority of the people who use it and are targeted by it know it’s a slur, what an American dictionary says is worse than useless. Also, arguing from the dictionary means you already lost the argument. Insensitive, petty bullshit.

  20. .26

    Having been there and talked to the people. They do not pretend to know Korean. Who ever posted that is super sour about something. Probably a ex kid who wants to start drama. They are actually very sweet and kind people. They just like kpop and wanted a sim geared towards Korean culture. Also the person who made the poster native language is Spanish just to clear that up. Most likely it is someone who wants to tear this sim down because they got banned for being drama or lying

  21. Number 29 & 7.
    As a family friend of the Vitale’s, let me clear a few things up for you all because this whole situation is fucked. The post shown in #29 is not the exact words of Rose, it is a screenshot of an article she searched to prove her point (which you can find on this page: https://www.intomore.com/culture/age-play-as-a-consensual-way-to-explore-sexual-dynamics/) as a sense of logic against the previous posts made about her here on Virtual Secrets. She specifically posted it because she did not want to have to use her own words to explain the difference between age-play (which she does not participate in), ddlg, and her aesthetic (which is pastel colors, blush, stuffed animals, etc.) The most important detail of this story is that someone has been harassing her for the past 6 months with death threats and slut-shame, and now more recently since she has not given it any energy or attention, now they’re coming for her family which has nothing to do with the situation. To call someone a podophile out of random is a dangerous game and overall disgusting so obviously you can tell this “poster” is reaching desperately for something in order to be demeaning and destructive. This is the most unproblematic family I have EVER seen on SL in years and the fact that they are needlessly being attacked because someone does not agree with the aesthetic of a woman is OVERBOARD and PATHETIC. Get a life.

    • just because you like bright colors and stuffed animals doesn’t mean you’re perverted. people are so miserable, best bet is to ignore them cause they definitely want attention. kudos to them for being strong and good luck

    • how sad u gotta be to try some shit like this.. who hurt bro 😂 wish somebody would.. just leave ppl alone an gone about ur business cause karma is a mf fr

    • The threats chiiile- People really be talking that reckless shit behind a screen lmfaoooo you know they really aren’t about it 😩 if you’re mad boo just say that cause it is giving pathetic rat.. if you can’t say it in person don’t say it at all ✋🏿

  22. Number 29 & 7
    As a family friend of the Vitale’s, let me clear a few things up for you all because this whole situation is fucked. The post shown in #29 is not the exact words of Rose, it is a screenshot of an article she searched to prove her point (which you can find on this page: https://www.intomore.com/culture/age-play-as-a-consensual-way-to-explore-sexual-dynamics/) as a sense of logic against the previous posts made about her here on Virtual Secrets. She specifically posted it because she did not want to have to use her own words to explain the difference between age-play (which she does not participate in), ddlg, and her aesthetic (which is pastel colors, blush, stuffed animals, etc.) The most important detail of this story is that someone has been harassing her for the past 6 months with death threats and slut-shame, and now more recently since she has not given it any energy or attention, now they’re coming for her family which has nothing to do with the situation. To call someone a podophile out of random is a dangerous game and overall disgusting so obviously you can tell this “poster” is reaching desperately for something in order to be demeaning and destructive. This is the most unproblematic family I have EVER seen on SL in years and the fact that they are needlessly being attacked because someone does not agree with the aesthetic of a woman is OVERBOARD and PATHETIC. Get a life.

  23. dude ive know the person from 21-22-23 for more then a year and whoever posted that your so full of crap your just looking to keep your drama going.Stop being a bully and move on with your life.

    • Fake kira account?

      Regardless knowing them for over a year means you should’ve seen this coming. it’s not the first and probably not going to be the last so see how that friendship is once you get on her bad side.

      It’s called playing the victim honey

      Nobody is bullying her, Kira attacked others and they showed their proof. If you’re going to dismiss is all as fake, remember that Kira your “friend” deleted her posts. She’s guilty and #23 kinda proves that statement since like TGS…YA BROKE THE RULES

      • that’s not me lol and now your targeting people from TGS in your bs and sharing there twitter info just cuz they support Kira. Keep proving your the bad guy by all means also no I’ve seen the entire drama posted online and i stand by it was a long time ago so just get over it also u keep mentioning she deleted her posts? woopty shit she didn’t want her subs to see the drama every day what’s your point? and to say she is playing the victim when your the one throwing a fit over old drama and posting it everywhere like you were hurt by it? if anyone’s playing the victim its you???????

      • Oh they’re targeting people from TGS, nah Kira did that but oops deleted the post 🤣

        Has nothing to do with subs honey, she guilty as shit and tried to hide.

        But I guess you can say “oh go kill yourself” and everything is good two years later huh, well I though that was fake?

        thanks for confirming the story, take a moment and realize you’re just digging a bigger hole the more you talk.

      • Kira stfu

        First off you accuse the comments of posting the original memes

        NEWSFLASH:
        Everything is ANONYMOUS, nobody knows who posted it and it will NEVER be revealed!

        So you can keep your lil accusations to yourself. You’re revealing to much information and confirming every accusation given. Targeting TGS what a joke.

        Keep giving us more reasons to talk and make sure you don’t reply on fenfen<3 this time xD

  25. 26

    Oh noes, people obsessed with Asian culture and using translators to act like they know Korean? Run for your lives, the whole grid is going to fall down!

    • And to let everyone know , Savannah is NOT banned from Fox Hollow , is NOT the person she used to be

      • o ok good to know they stopped hunting and flirting with little girl avis.

    • Having been there and talked to the people. They do not pretend to know Korean. Who ever posted that is super sour about something. Probably a ex kid who wants to start drama. They are actually very sweet and kind people. They just like kpop and wanted a sim geared towards Korean culture. Also the person who made the poster native language is Spanish just to clear that up.

      • Yeah, the only thing cringe about that post is the person who made it up. And all of it is completely made up.

  26. Hey guys… I just recovered from that stroke from a few weeks ago and I- …

    • Oh that’s the excuse for memory loss?
      I wondered because the same poster was shouting about taking out Arbordale last week. How did he miss that one?
      What between the speedo parties and the hidden cocks on display on most Friday nights, you would have thought something would have stuck?

      Most have heard about Kyle and her work, we don’t hear about her being complained about by those friends; of whom were double-crossed by her. Strange !!
      Obviously have more important (and deluded) agendas to cry about !
      See what I mean about groups creating cesspits?

  27. What’s with all the Breathe Spa crap? I’ve been there plenty of times and actually looked at people’s avatars and none look child-like to me.

    Someone clearly hasn’t been there, and instead is just posting shit to stir the pot.

    • I’ve been there a lot, and have reported one pre-pubescent avatar to a mod who did nothing about it other than agree that the avatar in question looked underage. I don’t think it’s as rampant as these posts suggest but it definitely happens. Maybe the lack of action is the issue.

      • Funny you should mention 511, so far it’s a decent place, the only issue I have is that some (not all obviously), of their dancers begging for tips and overly greeting people then these long, insincere emotes once they do get tipped. There was one night when this dancer, Legs wouldn’t shut up, basically the traffic went from 68 to 37 people in less than an hour. People aren’t into being bombarded for money in what is supposed to be a “chill,” club.

      • I did the right thing and IMed the owner of 511. Totally ignored me haha. No mods on except for dancers. Dancers pretending like they have authority. One IMs the girl in question and says to me.. well she said she’s 18+. Well fucking duh.

      • I was there recently and someone what has been warned about her underage looking avatar was, in fact, banned. So yes the managers are doing something about it. They just can’t be there 24/7 to monitor everything everyone does. Even the best run ship in the navy has rats. Just notify them of something and they’ll investigate. But there is a difference between looking young and looking underage.

    • It’s beginning to look like someone got banned from there, and is just screaming “pedo” to try and get LL to close it.

  28. 27. I like David but New Brunswick is BORING. It is vanilla for an adult sim and it has a laundry list of rules. There’s never more than 3 people on the map and those people spend most of their time in Cedar Creek.

    I have to say this. Congratulations CODY you played yourself. Cody is not only a BULLY but he is not to be trusted. David poaching him from Cedar Creek is one of the best things to happen. Cody and Lucy bullied people at the court and other departments like internet idiots that are coping after getting bullied in the real world. They will lie and kiss asses to look like the victims. Though only brainless imbeciles fall for the act. Thank you David for taking even 1 of the problems out of Cedar.

    • I don’t know why he gave away his successful community and invited the most toxic of people from it to work in the new place. Hell, I went to the strip club and it was just a backdrop. He should have made the place for all ages of characters at this point and set certain areas as adults only like Crack Den does.

      • Things probably would pick up a bit. Some people are probably swapping back over to Cedar because of boredom and others probably to spend time with their RP families.

    • New Brunswick is never going to do well because they have lying and backstabbing people like Cody as managers. As soon as I found out Cody was out of CC, I was happy to return. I love CC but he and his friends turned it into a mean girl clique town.

      • David chose the wrong people. Cody ruined the Department of Justice in CC with bullying with the help of Courtney & Lucy. They’re between the ages of 30-50 & spent their time bullying out of jealousy like teenagers. Cody is a liar & a dick. Courtney lives in Cody’s shadow & has no personality. Lucy is a manager she should have stopped it from happening but she joined in & went on to ruin Pinewood with bullying. She’s a huge cow in her 1st life with no life outside of her 2nd life so I’m not surprised that she was jealous

  29. 14. The owner is a mess. Not surprised she is getting called out AGAIN

    34. THIS PHOTO LOL

  31. #10 Arrogant ass thinks his shit don’t stink. 💩

  32. #31 𝐆𝐎 𝐓𝐎 𝐓𝐇𝐄𝐑𝐀𝐏𝐘!
    Idk who you are but something is wrong with you. Holy shit.

  33. 15) Short answer: No

    15) Long Answer: The EvoX UV map is too unique to be backlogging content from past releases. Morphing something I’ve already created for EvoX into default UV’s degrades all the detailed work I did to hand paint something for EvoX. It’s like painting a large mural, and then someone asking you to squish it down to fit it inside their apartment.
    There is a reason you are seeing many stores stop support for Genus and Catwa and its because the default UV has too much space dedicated to parts of the heads that no one cares about, while the EvoX UV has given us much more freedom and space to create detailed content. Simply – you loose quality when trying to pack the same amount of pixels into a smaller space. I would need to go in and manually repaint some of the detail I did when making it for EvoX. And at the end of the day – there just aren’t enough people buying NON-EvoX item to support that extra workload. I implore you to open a makeup or applier store and try doing both. You will choose one or the other eventually.

  34. #10 He’s arrogant trash anyway. He’s not the only one by the way. So many trashy designers do this and even to other designers. Seems to be the cool thing these days. It’s time we stop supporting this behavior. I would love to see them all close shop and disappear.

  35. #1 “Literally”

    lit·er·al·ly
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    adverb

    1. in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
    2. “the driver took it literally when asked to go straight across the traffic circle”

  36. 26

    If she hasn’t changed in the past two years, Savannah probably got banned for harassing people. She used to ask us for lindens all the time and would annoyingly rp dial 911 over and over and over in CC to report random crap.

    • First off that information is wrong. She isn’t banned from fox hollow. Second that girl and her family built a entire university in a day! The person who posted this is probably a hatefully little child who got kicked from the family for being a jealous little shit.

      • Not a child. Don’t know who the “family” is. I only know Savannah. Maybe she was only temporarily banned but I know she was banned at the end of December. Who cares about the university being built in a day and who even brags about these sort of things? You sound like you are the little child RL.

      • First off attacking someone when you don’t know the fact makes you seem like a drama whore. Which you probably are honestly. Not my problem probably miserable in both lives anyway. I probably have more going for me then you do lmfao. Attacking someone who doesn’t speech English and family who likes Korean things is wrong. If you want your avie to look Asian and cute does that mean your attacking all of them? Project BTS, Project BP, Project EXO and many more. Store creators too hmmm seems like you and loser of that poser wanna be enemy number 1. Also has for Savanah I doubt your stupid ass doesn’t even know her. So why not do us all a favor and shut your fucking mouth. Go back to your pathetic SL and RL.

      • You have quite the imagination! I only mentioned Savannah. I didn’t attack anyone who doesn’t speak English or anyone who likes Korean things. I said nothing about Asian or cute avatars. I do see you lack the most basic of reading comprehension though. Maybe you should direct all that useless rambling to the actual person who created the secret, dumbass. Oh and welcome to Virtual Secrets : ) !

      • Let me guess, you spend so much time logged into SL that being a little Korean girl has become your whole identity. You do annoying ass KPOP group dances with your friends in stores, and daydream of what BTS singer you will never marry. That is what I got from the shiiiiiiiiiiiiit ton that you are projecting and being overly defensive about. Stop embarrassing yourself and whoever this Savannah bitch friend of yours is. Kermit didn’t mention any of the shit you are in here whining about.

      • You’re awefully defensive, fuckstick… especially when this is a random site that only a small minority of people on SL actually know about.

  37. Hi! I made #37, I think some of you guys are getting the wrong point. I don’t care about people who’s avatars just generally look young while still being clearly adults, I know some people just look young and wanna reflect that in SL! I made the secret about babygirls/littles specifically, girls who pretend to be children or act super child-like on top of looking young. My point was more “is there any meaningful distinction between someone who makes their avatar look really young while roleplaying as an adult who’s roleplaying as a child, vs someone who’s just outright roleplaying as a child.” I ran out of space though and I didn’t wanna make the text super tiny or submit two secrets.

  38. #6- Bet you the people running that are white people RPing as black people.

    #20- Man that’s fucked up. I think some people forget that the Roma are real and not a funny little fantasy race you can toss in for some spice.

    #24- This has been something people have been doing for years now, along with prerendered images done in programs other than SL. It’s garbage, and I feel like it’s false advertisement/misrepresentation that shouldn’t be tolerated, but here we are anyway. I try not to support any brand who pulls that shit.

    • #24 agreed, If you can’t be bothered to take a pic in-world to show what it actually looks like on some particular mesh body, fuck it. Not even gonna demo!

  39. #28. There’s also no reason to reply with “I don’t use what you’re asking about” in the thread. IMO they’re just biting back to someone being rude in the first place. 

    #37. To use your same logic, I’m 30 next year and I STILL get asked what highschool I go to. Does that make my partner a pedo?? Fucking of course not. Now I don’t think the argument you’r making was that black and white. But at the end of the day, none of this is. It’s internet avatars made by people who exist in a world where your hips can be 5x the size of your head and nobody seems to remember what a human being looks like. So really, I don’t care. If people are saying their ocs are 18+, I’m going to believe them. Way less energy than the witchhunting everyone wants to do, here.

      • 37 Referenced their own appearance.
        I’m referencing my own to show the flaw in anecdotal statements like that.
        Calm down, this isn’t a big deal.

    • Newsflash, there are more people who are disturbed by the teen trend in SL!

      • I wouldn’t be caught dead in a kupra body and I think those pedo bait bitches are disgusting.

  41. #27 David is a cool dude and all but damn, this place is boring. I gave it a chance but the most people I seen there over a two week period was 3-4 people. It does seem like a nice place for people who want a slow paced community minus families and teens. Bull and Cody are there too if you missed them. Too clean for me.

  42. #25 lol .. are all the women still 7ft tall beanpoles with basketball tits and a lovely shade of natural tanned orange?

    • Maui’s finest, check out their munted Flickr pages if you want a laugh, their so called ‘standards’ are so fucking warped.

      • I just remember open day and one of the managers, Renni, walked in wearing a white bikini, sheer robe and LONG WHITE OPERA GLOVES. That place is a non hot mess lol

      • There is a reason Rennie is a manager there.. she is such a hideous old witch, the only reason she probably stays there is because she would never get a fuck outside of Maui ROFL

      • Haha, those pages are comparable to “People of Walmart” for sure… Uglys of Maui.

        The only standard they have is that you have to be a loser to get fucked there.

  43. 18# no one cares Who the f*** is this bitch there not even irrelevant bye bitch.

  44. I’m really proud of virtual secrets being relevant enough for russian trolls to have to sow their propaganda here too (#43)

  45. 13# beev fallen two weeks in a row. I almost messaged him after the sanctions started to check he was ok etc. Having seen last weeks post about his flickr post I’m glad I didn’t. Guess he gets a bye as he makes nice stuff. I’m sure plenty of our friends have bad views.

    43# I’m supremely confident plenty of Ukranians hold nasty views, but right now we’re all rooting for them. Not least as we all HATE Russians!

    • Hate the government, dont hate the Russians. Majority of Russians are not okay with this war. A lot of Russian soldiers are defecting because they also do not want to do this. Ukranians aren’t hating Russians, they are are hating the war caused by the Russian government and have no choice but try to defend themselves.

      You need to know the differences in the situations going on. Pay more attention.

      I certainly don’t hate Russians, 4 of my best friends are from Russia. It’s not the people.

  46. #43. Man the Kremlin trolls are really getting desperate to push justification for Russia’s aggression and killing of civilians into SL Virtual Secrets.

  47. #15 I wear Catwa head and a LAQ head for my alt, it’s getting harder and harder to find things for those heads because all anyone wants to do is EVOX. Like skin fair, pfft should’ve been called EVOX fair since EVERYTHING is for that head. It’s not fair to us who use something other than EVOX.

    #36 I know the owner of so silly she use to be my sl sister but she was not welcomed anymore because she never connected with the family. She blamed me for it but it was her own fault, she’s not a good person and her stuff is so outdated and very boring. I’ve never liked any of her things.

    • the heads suck and most polls show evoX a giant user % over anyone even combined.

      • To me the heads don’t suck it’s about what shapes you use, and lately I’ve been seeing people have issues with their EVOX heads.

      • Dumb people who can’t follow instructions are always going to have problems with things. The more people use something, the more dumb people not following instructions there are going to be, so the more likely you are to hear about their nonsense. Simple logic.

      • What issues even? LeL is so fast to fix any issues that pop up ontop of giving free updates. I really don’t know what issues you have “seen”.

        The thing about the shape tho is that the LeL heads have their unbound sliders so any shape i make is probably going to be more customized and with the right head i can emulate pretty much whatever i want within reason (give me a big hook nose or chubby head please) that is seen in other inbounds heads.

        LeL has been innovative with better UVs, sliders and their model for updating things like animations, bom/animesh ears or evo for no cost to existing customers and it has paid off. Frequent new products, good customer support and free fully supported heads just added to that even more. Wear whatever you want but there’s a reason the market is headed the direction of LeL…

      • Please elaborate the issues, lelu are the easiest heads to use so if you having issues id suggest its the user s not the heads themselves

    • Yes its getting harder because no one uses it, the work behind making compatible stuff for them doesn’t really translate in earnings because the user base of these heads are very small now

      • No, not exactly.

        While LeL has a stranglehold on the market, I know plenty of people who don’t use LeL heads or Catwa heads for that matter since neither is what look they’re going for. All of SL isn’t adult humans going for ultra realistic EvoX aesthetic or the clone thing (side tracking but.. for all the unbound unique rigging LeL heads have, 90% of users look the exact same – you know “the LeL look” if you’ve even spent a day in the LeL discord and checked out the blogger pictures – pouty lipped girls, jugheaded men – the heads are capable of so so much more but.. that’s off topic). LeL has no child avatar heads. No fantasy creature heads. No cartoony head besides Gaia, no male version. The only softer male head is the one meant to be non-binary. Assuming all of SL is the adult normie human market is.. well… silly.

        Are you also suggesting everyone should just give up and let LeL be the entire mesh head market with no other choices? I don’t like that. No creator should be the only one and force everyone into buying from them.

      • And no BOM creators should be forced to waste their time making overlays that will sell a fraction of their Evo X work. That goes both ways.

      • It does but to say “Only EvoX matters” is giving the entire mesh head market to LeL. Do we really want a monopoly with no other choices? LeL does NOT want other heads using their UV map and threw a fit when someone tried.

        Do we want LeL as the only viable choice in SL? That’s exactly like saying that Maitreya should be the only female mesh body since almost everyone rigs for it.

      • You’re absolutely full of shit; they literally gave the map to AK and now AK sells Evo X compatible heads. You’ve been talking bullshit since the beginning of all this, insisting Lel was trying to lock other people out and force change even when every Evo X head has the option of regular SLUV mode- and all of their updates have been free, even for people who got free heads. No one is going to hold anything back to coddle people who refuse to progress. You need to stop lying, or speaking on subjects you obviously know nothing about at least.

      • I’m absolutely not because at the time I wrote that, I wasn’t aware they finally relented and let other brands use their UV. Before this skin fair, they were much only wanted LeL to have that UV and were not even offering it to any other heads – legal or not. LeL has said a lot of things they’d like people to forget about and now that it’s Discord only, they can neatly delete statements they no longer stand behind. Good job on falling for that, I still remember when a CSR said BoM was garbage and LeL would not be including it in Origins updates.

        LeL has locked people out. “They have the option of SLUV!” but almost everything is made for Evo X only. People besides me are telling you that. The entire grid isn’t normie adult humans. The humanoid avs I know who don’t use LeL are – kids, fantasy creatures (new mercreature head just came out I see people using), cartoon characters, and male avatars who want a softer face/not super masc facial features. If I need to “progress”, tell LeL to make a EvoX kid head since you seem to be in the know. We all know how people react when kid avatars use anything meant for an adult. Is LeL gonna make these kinds of heads or lend their UV to people who do? They’d be wise to. I still think it’s a very bad idea to let one creator dominate the Grid but I suppose SL wants to find out why that’s an issue.

        As for Genus… well they’re in Ukraine from what I understand (don’t shoot the messenger, they were on a list of Ukraine creators) so even if they hadn’t bailed SL, they’d be no updates for a while. Belleza went full mod on their bodies, something I’d love to see LeL and Maitreya do because it opens up a whole new world of customization. It’s a “too little, too late” in their case but full mod should be the default for these things. I hear Maitreya hate all the time. Especially here. People hate on Maitreya constantly. Catwa I agree is just outdated… but Genus and Catwa aren’t the only head makers. Maybe for the normal human crowd they are…

      • Maitreya has a monopoly on the market considering how much there is for it and how much ‘exclusive’ items there are for it still. Hardly anyone has complained much about it. Actually I’ve had people angry with me when I point it out!

        Rebirth (the brand that used their EvoX mapping) did it without Lelutka’s authorization and has given the authorization/permission to Advanced AK head makers to USE their EvoX mapping.

        But doing something for both, unless you are using Substance Painter or a 3D painting program that can easily adjust it, it is really difficult to convert. Even in the 3D painting program, it can be difficult because of the differences in the mapping and having to correct some things.

        EvoX and Lelutka heads being used more than anything is likely because they are ACTUALLY doing things and updating products. Genus is going the “Belleza route” pretty much as I have not seen a update in at least two years and Catwa is just… greedy and people have taken notice from what I have seen.

  48. I wish SL would just ban child and teen avatars. Shit is beyond gross and just promotes metal instability.

    • I’m a teen avi, not like other people but for the most part I roleplay at a sim that’s has people being 11-17 year olds. We’re not gross, I also do it for my sl mom because I’m the oldest but I majorly am an adult. Does that make me sick and gross? I mostly do a teen avie because I didn’t have a good teenage years, body image, being bullied and attempting suicide. Was not good. That’s why I’m a teenager, and most child avies do it because they want to feel what it’s like to be a kid again and feel nurtured and loved. Some also do it because they had a bad childhood full of neglect and abuse. Does that make them gross?

      • I am pretty sure no one has a problem with that you do. What many people do have a problem with is grown women who make teen avatars and go to adult places for sex. IF you are into that, at least do it at your own home so no one has to watch that ^%%$^

      • That’s exactly the point, and all these people piling on with their “BUT NOT ME” are obviously not who we’re talking about. If they’re not taking their underage looking avi to sex clubs and sims, they’re not at all the topic.

      • Yeah was replying to and referring to the individual who said that ALL kid and teen avatars should be banned from Secondlife.

    • There’s people fucking dogs and horses inworld, places specifically for rape fantasies, scat, snuff murders, and more BUT kid and teen avatars just existing is the breaking point for you? LOL.

      • But of course to the likes of Bombom here, you got to have some degree of morality. I mean why blink an eye, when some grandma is out raping a horse on a cheap Moderate land parcel because she could not bother to get her ass to Zindra. But lord prevail a kid is sitting watching TV on a parcel 6 sims away from the act. I mean… Okay ! 😄

      • I’m out riding my bike right now on PG land. Clearly this is the biggest threat to SL morality as we know it.

  49. #43

    Finally someone who knows the truth! Makes me sick seeing all the support for a country that’s #2 in sex trafficking and proudly support Neo-Nazi movement. If Putin wanted to take power he would. He’s there for so much more. That country is so corrupt. Now do I support the innocent Ukrainian’s Hell yes! But do I support all the fuck Russia crap NO! Why attack Russian civilians that play SL because their government? Fuck war!

    • So his solution is to ruthlessly kill civilians and destroy their infrastructure? It may be corrupt but China and Russia are the undisputed champs of corruption and Authoritarianism. The only reason Ukraine hasn’t dealt with the Neo-Nazi problem is because they actually know how to fight, clearly.

    • How does Ukraine have a Jewish president if it’s so full of neo-nazis?

    • You’re a fucking idiot. If you knew anything about the armed forces, you would know they don’t wear metallic items on their Kevlar. Ducking idiot. Stay and die in Russia, moron.

    • I have never seen Ukraine show up in the top of any human trafficking reports.

      But you know which country always shows up in the top 20 of nearly every report since 2003? Russia.

      • You got actual proof of what you’re saying, or are you just spouting shit?

        Cause anyone on the internet can say anything, but can’t can’t provide proof to back what they said.

        If you can’t provide proof, then GFY.

      • Where’s your proof of Ukraine being “#2 in sex trafficking” or anything else you and your Russian friend are claiming? In your own words boo.. “If you can’t provide proof then GFY”.

      • Just because I don’t agree with you, doesn’t make me a russian troll / russian bot / whatever insult you choose.

        Come up with an actual argument without the name calling, or GFY.

      • “U HEV PROOFS?”
        The Russian mantra.

  50. All SL baby girls are pedos and all daddy doms on SL are pedos. No exceptions. Don’t make exceptions for people you like and change the rules to fit your favor. Uphold the standards everywhere. You people are hypocritical as fuck

      • “My alt is a baby girl, does that make me gross?”
        Yes, yes it does, very much so.

      • You can be a babygirl and not look underage. The kink has literally nothing to do with age, so why do so many who claim to practice it feel the need to make jailbait avatars? Post a pic, and we’ll tell you if it’s gross or not.

    • Lol. Thats about the same as lumping in all the 40 something soccer mom cougars that over wear sweatpants with juicy written across the ass. If you’re running around pretending to be a toddler doing weird adult shit. Ban them.

    • In your theory then all furrys must be into beastiality? Your comment is riddiculous you should maybe stick to playing the sims 🙂

      • How does this make sense moron? Beastiality never had anything to do with furries to begin with, it was always about anthropomorphic art. If animal fuckers call themselves furries they’re sadly misguided, they’re just freaks.

    • Wow this factual statement struck a nerve, it looks like this community is rife with BG/DD pedophiles.

  51. #16 Kayce already onto another girl, a few weeks ago someone posted about him cheating on his current girl with his ex Faye Hexem, now he wants Shellina, is there any female safe from him at Breathe Spa, he should change his name to Kayce SpaFuckboiHurst.

    • Like most men in SL, he has already had Shellina, and like all men who have been with Shellina, they are all Beta’s. Her current man had to pay to become an Alpha. The common theme here is they all are trying to stay relevant.

      • So what’s wrong if she is a bored married woman that needs some fantasy in her life and pays for a boyfriend? Is that okay only for men to be sugardaddies? You people and your double standards smh

      • Both are pathetic, paying for attention they can’t get or keep with their own personalities.

  52. #43: The US has Nazis… should the US be invaded and innocent people slaughtered with no help from outside nations due to threats of nuclear war? Think it couldn’t happen to you? Maybe after Jan. 6 Canada should have just pushed in and took over after seeing all those people in military outfits pushing for fascism? Also, the little article you cited was written by a former gawker writer who writes opinion pieces, not facts.

  53. 41. Hey now. Be nice. Don’t insult all sex workers by putting Meep in the mix of them. That’s just mean to the sex workers.

  54. I think it’s funny Verinne wants to whine about being called out on here to her followers when she has no problem putting herself in other peoples drama and talks shit all the time.

    • Complaining? I’ve seen her posts and she’s calling everyone out there that post her here. Says more about her than the shit posters hiding behind Secrets.

      Everyone shit talks. You’re lying if you say YOU don’t and haven’t.

  55. #29 calling someone daddy when being intimate is NOT ageplay get a friggin clue…having sex while in a lil avatar or lil headspace IS ageplay and gross

    • Im surprised someone hasnt decided that everyone who gets called “master” must be a human trafficker deep undercover with the Mexican drug cartels at this point. These are almost like someones fan fiction that belongs on a writing prompt forum.

  57. 23: they are just a fucken shit show. They bitch that they don’t get there way like a child.

    • Well, no, not the first generation of bento heads. Also, LeLutka isn’t the only head brand. I really wish they hadn’t gone for Evo X and made it hopeless to use most content regardless of your head. That was why BoM was great to start with.

      • Progress is going to happen regardless of those who don’t like it. Talk to literally any creator who currently makes BOM for heads- they all prefer the Evo X template. It’s not just different; it’s better.This is like being sad that you can’t use your Nokia brick phone case and charger on your smartphone, and wishing smartphones never existed so you didn’t have to give those accessories up. If that sounds stupid, then you understand how your comment sounds to other people.

      • Basically….kinda pointless to complain about when there’s more BOM stuff out there than anything outside of the most recent primary releases.

      • Evo X was very smart from a marketing point of view for LeLutka, but proprietary content is not great for the community as a whole and it can bite you on the ass. I kind of hope that someone else will come up with an even better UV that everyone starts creating for. Because that is the can of worms they have opened.

      • Head brands can apply with Lelutka to get permission on use of their unique UV

        There were two new heads at skinfair from a different brand that use EvoX UV

      • Bullshit. I’d like you to show proof where they ever refused to share with anyone. Or is that something you heard from someone similarly salty, and you just believed it because it fit with what you wanted to think?

      • you do know there’s a button on it to use old SL uv right? If you want to wear you shit just push it so why bitch?

      • I am not talking about wearing non Evo X content on Evo X heads, I am talking about the fact that Evo X content only works for Evo X heads. Work on your reading comprehension a bit.

    • Maybe some of us just like the shape of our old heads, or maybe even don’t want to spend 5K for a new one.
      I know there are (was?) free/cheap ones, but what if the shape doesn’t work for you?
      I know SL content creators want to keep with what’s hot, but a larger market to pull from would be beneficial.
      What would be even more beneficial would be all head creators agreeing on a single UV to standardize so all skins could be cross compatible and actually make use of one of BOMs main purposes, but I know that’s a pipe dream.

      • Change happens. BOM is still good and has its place — and it still has a lot of creators and items out there. But the latest releases are reasonably not it. It’s the same sort of thing as moving from classic to mesh and appliers or appliers to BOM.
        Of course not everyone will use these — I have avatars using BOM not evoX that I don’t plan on swapping because I’m very happy with, but there is a reason why people are using it and it’s not just trend. The UV has a lot more space and is easier to work with for people doing makeup or skins. I’ve played around with both enough and I’m really not going back to BOM if I can help it.
        This happens when new bodies come out or anything like that — I use a body that isn’t supported as much anymore because the shape is perfect for me. Because of that I just expect to not have as much at events to buy. Do I wish more people would rig for my body — of course! But that’s not the current trend and if I really wanted to I could swap.
        If you haven’t swapped that’s fine, but don’t expect to find the recent events releasing stuff primarily for BOM. Skin fair had plenty of BOM — it had a new catwa head ffs and some other brands as well. But the Lelutka is most popular for a reason and a lot of people swapped from other brands for a reason.

      • What new Catwa head are you talking about at skin fair? Because what I saw on seraphim’s website was nothing but EVOX skins and make-up.

      • Forgot to say, I wear catwa still…I like the heads and I even have a catwa HD pro head which I’m not crazy about but I like the heads because they feel like me but even still I can no longer find skins for my head except for Deetalez but even still all the skins I find are for EVXO. It makes it hard for us bloggers to do anything if we don’t want to switch.

      • Catwa does have a new head out on skin fair, check seraphim website.

      • Just to be clear, BOM works on EvoX heads. Its just a different UV map. All modern heads are using BOM, while they also have onion layers (for HD appliers) with separate UV maps for those onion layers (which is why appliers cannot be cross brand)

        The biggest issue here is not BOM – its that the main BOM UV for EvoX has changed.

        There also was a head brand at skinfair that released two heads that are compatible with EvoX UV. They got permission from Lelutka to do this (not talking about the Gaia Head brand that is in legal trouble with Lelutka that claimed you can use any BOM from Genus/Catwa/Lelutka)

        If you see a lack of support for something you like, try creating for it!
        Most content creators on SecondLife will tell you that their start came from just wanting to experiment in world and got creative.

    • I don’t think that’s the issue. It’s tossing all your Evo BoM because EvoX uses a different map than the rest of the entire Grid. People wear EvoX heads in Evo mode still and have tons of BoM make up that they were told was “the future”. With Evo, LeL took away Omega so a great deal of users went out and got BoM makeup only for LeL to rug pull a year later and make it all useless on EvoX. Now they can’t find content – I told people this would happen and it was gonna be shitty.

    • Not all the skins though. My evo skin (released in janurary 2021, so not old) has my look and even looks better than a lot of evox skins. They make rigged clothes for maitreya and maitreya petite and legacy and whatever the other is for that, I’ve seen it in my folders, so why not an evo and evo x head? I’ve demo’d ever evox skin on the grid and probably have over 80k inventory of just skins lately and none seem to look as good or accurate as the one i use. It’s always something too like shading or terrible eyebrow placement or size or imperfections I don’t have for real so don’t want in SL or lower eyelids or upper eyelids even, nostrils, lips etc. The skin I use now is perfect and I get a huge amount of compliments as my avatar looks like me (i’m a streamer). So I’m not changing the head or skin to something that looks less like me. They should support the evo map too with the makeups and also pay closer attention to eyeshape on some of these heads where leltuka did some odd rigging in the eye area. Turning away customers is dumb. If the creators just took the time and effort instead of being lazy. They don’t realize the amount of work some people do on their look and how we don’t want to swap out skins or heads for the latest one just because of a mere makeup.

      • The difference between rigging for different bodies and creating BOMs for different heads is VASTLY different processes. You cannot simply make something for the default UV and then morph it to the evoX UV because it is mapped completely differently. When rigging clothing to different bodies, its about pushing geometry (verts/points/faces) out and in and then rigging it to the bones once it fits a body. The who concepts are very different. Plus, many mesh creators are paying someone else to rig for them. There are people who specialize in rigging to different bodies, while skin/makeup/BOM creators are more often than not, doing everything themselves. This creates more workload for the creator as a whole. Yes there are teams of skin/makeup/BOM creators but again, processes are way different. Like comparing an apple and an orange.

        The thing about being lazy – we are not being lazy for not supporting the default UV template. My favorite analogy of this from my comment earlier is: asking someone to make evoX items backsupported to default UV is like asking a muralist who just finished a large painting to size it down so it can fit in someone’s apartment. When painting on evoX UV, you have more dedicated space to the eyes, lips and nose – this means more pixels and more detail. I have sat and morphed some of my EvoX creations to fit the default UV and I eventually need to go back in and repaint most of it. Its like creating two entirely different items, as far as work load goes. You simply can’t just press a button and make it work. There are some 3D programs that WILL do this for you – however you are still left with an undesirable look, and much of it still needs to be readjusted and repainted by the time it is done converting it to default UV.

        At the end of the day – the work load to convert something from EvoX to Default UV outweighs most creators patience, life schedules, and event timelines to do this. I even looked at the data from my sales and calculated the work time to convert and if it was profitable was dismally low. I just cant justify spending another 5+ hrs of work for nothing in return.

        There are plenty of resources for people to start creating their own BOMs. I implore anyone who thinks it should be easy, to make one item for evoX, and then try to backsupport it to default UV.

  59. #7 She did post on her story that she is into “ageplay” moreso ddlg and that she identifies as a 6 year old boy. But, I don’t know. Just let her do her thing i guess.
    I’ve heard many things about her, one being that she’s super fake, into age play, fakes her voice. Idk. I have never met her so.

  60. 45: OmG, a NeO-nAzI!! UkRaInIaNs ArE BaD, tHeY sHoUlD bE InVaDeD bY rUsSiA!!!

  61. 37 – I have been told I looked like I was 16 when I was 23 years old, I am sick of people acting like younger looking adults don’t exist. We do. We’re called baby faced for a reason.

    • You sound dumb as fuck. Actually everyone on here sounds stupid as hell. You’re a pedo just like the rest. If you call out one we call out all. No exceptions.

      • How is having younger features IN REAL LIFE being a pedo? You sound like the idiot here

      • Woah buddy, don’t have a stroke. You are getting a bit tense in the comments today.

      • lol you either have been aging since you were 15 or you look like a train wreck now and are jealous as hell.

        I remember going to eat out when visiting my parents and I was asked if I wanted a child’s menu and I replied with “Yea, and I’ll have a screwdriver with it” I didn’t look like I was older than 17 till I was almost 30.

        People do have baby faces, it’s not a pedo thing its damn good genetics for a woman whos in her mid 20’s – early 30’s looking like she’s still younger than what she is.

      • nope nope nope 👎 see you losers on SL like to pick and choose who you deem ageplayers because you hate them versus THEYRE NOT AGEPLAYING OLDER PPL CAN LOOK YOUNNNNNG!!!! Nope lol you’re all pedos then. Keep that energy for everyone the same. Peace ✌️

    • IKR! Asian here and we don’t age until we’re literally 80 lol. I’m almost 50 and still look like I’m in my 30’s (not even any white hair yet) and sound as if I was in my 20’s (someone asked if I was 16 the last time I DJ’d lmao).

      Altho, am not baby-faced, just lucky to have been born Asian I guess…and have good genes.

      A young attitude helps too!

    • There is no rule in RL.about having sex with an adult who looks underage. There IS a rule in SL that if your avatar looks less than 18, it’s not allowed. My younger sister still looks.like a kid at almost 40. Your avatar looking 16 makes it….16. It’s the face with the big eyes, which children have in proportion to their faces, the pigtails, the kids backpack. It’s not just one thing, it’s a compilation of many things that makes an avatar look less than 18. Everyone seems to think young children when a 15-17 year old looking avatar is a child, too.

      I’m also not saying these type of avatars are RPing as a teen. They have giant boobs sometimes and huge hips. But the teen ish face makes it all seem pretty cringy to me. Personally, I was tall, curvy and all that when I was 15.

      • People *choosing* that jailbait look is exactly the whole point of why it’s disturbing; pointing out what people can’t help in real life is totally irrelevant. Why do that if you have a choice not to? What are the operators thinking when they look at their half dressed avi with the toddler’s face? Because it is genuinely sick… and most of them wear signs of abuse along with it, like bruises, strangulation marks, and tears. If your primary occupation in SL is stuffing pixel cocks in the youngest looking face you can possibly get away with, something is seriously broken inside you, and you need professional help.

        I honestly can’t fathom the mindset of a woman who would do that, knowing what the world is really like for little girls, and I worry for their actual children. I’ve read more than one story where women abused their own kids, from sending pics of them to much, much worse, because they were desperate for attention from some pedophile on the internet. SL is bursting at the seams with desperate women, so how many steps away from roleplaying child rape is actual abuse really? It just doesn’t seem like an appropriate place to cry “grey area”.

      • Listen, just because we are kawaii, and usually wearing a fashion style from RL called “Harajuku” does not mean we are children. If you think of children when you see cute clothing or soft faces…. You are the disgusting one.

      • When I see avatars with childlike faces, yes, I think child/young teen. As any normal person would. I couldn’t care less about those types of avatars except when they’re in an ADULT rated sex area. THAT is what is disgusting.

    • All the pedos and pedo sympathizers are out in force in the comments. Do you all have some kind of bat signal for when people post ageplay secrets?

      • Sorry but the same rules of real life do not apply in a virtual world as everything is content created. anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded.

  62. #43 Seems with the GQP and Russian trolls, every accusation is an admission of guilt..

  63. #40 I can attest even when she knows she is wrong she still manages to play victim. I am glad i have gotten away from her. her one track mind on being an absolute failure, is exhausting and only for attention. She has many Avenues to take to be better she just choose to be a sloppy slug to get the pitty party. She drags her slim over everything to try and suffocate your own ambitions to focus on the pathetic life she created and could get out of. She hasn’t done shit to experience struggle she just makes herself obese off the back of her mom. The most unattractive, disgusting, and pathetic pathological liar i have ever met.

    Actually do something before you try to say the world is against you Kat. At this point you are literally stabbing yourself in the back.

    • yeah i tried to be friends with this chick and it was literally exhausting. just another one of those that burns through friends because she’s always finding reasons to pick fights with her friends and play victim after

      boring

  64. 14 – Syndicate: Dead ass club with shitty owner and management.

    34 – Perfect, hilarious and so true,

  65. # 43 https://gyazo.com/b7f1908c63ceb2fb52252abc8f538773 this is a picture of the old Carlsberg headquarter so shall we boycot Carlsberg now? They actually stayed in Russia. Here is the fun thing the Swasticia hae been used by others than the Nazi’s. And lets not forget the in Nazi’s fighting for a Jewish President

    Learn some history Russian (god spelled backwards)

    • Also the Nazi symbol was stolen from Sanskrit which means ” Peace and well being”, the gyazo capture shows an Indian Elephant with the Sanskrit symbol.

      • The swastika was part of the Carlsberg label before WW2 (google Carlsberg and swastika) the elphant on the picture from the old headquarter in Copenhagen

    • you would sure learn culture and history before mouth off. that’s not a swastika and that symbol has been around before Nazi or even germany existed

      • That’s the point Carlsberg stopped using the swastika after WW2

  67. I thought sota Beach was close down by LL because the owner got caught Ageplaying.

  68. #27 BULL HULL is a slut!!!! Stop sending me pics of your little dick, I can end you so fast with my proof, better come clean now

    • It’s a really nice sim, just seems like it’s always empty and then people are there they’re busy or idle. Not to mention a lot of the roadways are blocked with on going public works. When you have a small sim, you don’t want to constantly block up 25-50% of the place. As for the person talking shit about Bull, why do people always say they have proof yet never expose it? If you’re going to say it, then prove it for everyone or stop.

      • Its funny how people from pasts, who have no reason to start shit love to start shit. We know who you are @A innocent victim, its funny you bring this up now. =D

      • Hmm ok I can show my proof!! Be in the lookout tonight at David’s sim, I will be passing my proof

      • The fact you are making this an issue when there’s nothing to make an issue out of is flat out hilarious Patty.
        Just stop while your ahead. Everyone does stupid shit and I promise you I know a lot of the stupid shit you have done and I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t want that getting passed around the grid.
        Got an issue, try talking vs being a cunt and trying to blast someone for no reason, I promise it works better!

    • fuck. send me those pics. i’ve been looking for more masturbation material foreverrrrrrrrr.

      ps: if you have proof honestly post them! jilted whore.

    • Who the fuck is Bull Hull? Do you need mental help due to your imagination? You sound like you don’t get dick.

    • Considering Bull and his SL girlfriend live together in RL, I highly doubt that happened. Please get off the computer and go touch some grass.  😂 

  69. #39 She can only talk about Belleza, perhaps she should look for another kind of fetish. She keeps on and on and on and on and on about it. Like she is stuck in it like a 10-year-old. And we aren’t waiting for your boot at skin fair as well. But we aren’t going on about in every freaking post. And if she blogs for Belleza he /she should kick her out. And give the spot to someone who really like the brand.

    • What’s really embarrassing is, if she really blogs for Belleza, why she would tell Tricky they don’t need more skins when Tricky has nothing to do with the skins. That’s Shyla’s side of things. I’m willing to bet she never said shit to anyone and she just likes to name drop like those people actually talk to her.

    • She’s an asshole anyway. Her and her clan of bitches.

    • Honestly she should be pretty immediately removed as a Belleza blogger…same with the others posting that’s beyond unprofessional and really not alright to shit talk the product you’re supposed to be promoting. Good job.

      Anyone else should probably be pretty wary of these people too because imagine giving someone free stuff to promote and them just turning around and publicly talking about how bad the stuff is.

    • This is one of the biggest arrogant bitches in whole sl. The princess..

    • How is going after an out of date skin maker related to the body maker, new body is coming out bloggers and shape makers have it why would you make an old skin for the old body none of you wear, when you’ew bitter you’re bitter in general yall mind peoples business so hard for no reason.

  70. 9 – “these gay kids”…. careful, your homophobia is showing
    11 – ask yourself if YOU are enough for YOURSELF. when you can answer yes to that, then you won’t pick people who make you feel less than or not enough.
    15 – creators make non-evox content and people scream for the evox stuff. they make evox stuff and people bitch about lacking non-evox. there is no happy medium. shop around, there is still plenty of content for old heads. better yet, learn to make your own. most designers aren’t going to make things for out of date or out of fashion/trend bodies/heads.
    24 – this isn’t new. at all.
    28 – don’t know the people and hate the “child” aspect of sl…. but suki got a point and that Lily person posting that comment was highly obvious attention-seeking. I would have replied the same thing.
    34 – I laughed so hard at this. thank you.
    37 – and vise versa. In my 30s I was still getting carded and scrutinized because they thought my ID was fake. I’d ask how old they think I am and they’d say 13-15. This is a losing battle for both sides.
    41 – are you saying sex work is desperate and “low”? prude much?
    43 – this is one of the most incoherent things I have seen in a long time. I don’t even see the connection to SL. Why was this even included this week?

    • The problem with heads is some of like the ones we use and our skins and don’t want to switch to something that … ah your a dumb fuck soon point explaining the obvious to the oblivious losers in this virtual world of mostly know-it-all dumbasses with zero personality and are truly lost. Enjoy being worthless.

    • 41. I think what they were referring to was the fact Meep has been caught over the years degrading sex workers and strippers in SL. Last year she caused drama over people posting SL nudes even though it’s all she does and now when she needs money, sex work is suddenly fine. Hypocritical shit.

      • Hey Grumpy,

        Not quite sure who you are but you seem to have a lot to say anonymously.

        I’ve never shamed strippers or sex workers, ever.
        I support them and think they’re absolutely awesome.

        My issue was people posting RL nudes on FB stories.
        Which, most people have an issue with because none of us are consenting to that.

        Seeing as how even last year I was posting robot dick on my Flickr, and that I’ve posted lewd nonsense on my Flickr for years, you really need to get your facts straight and maybe come at me off anon if you really have a bone to pick with me.

        You obviously know where to find me  💗 

  71. #37
    Reading comments here had made me realize way too many people don’t seem to even know how 12-17y even look like these day. There has been pictures of avatars clearly trying to look like they are between 12-16 yet people here say they look like 21+. Like seriously. Stop watching anime and kpop and go outside for a change.
    But SL does have a huge population trying to normalize this kind of ‘it’s fine to lust for 15 year olds’.

    • I still get carded and I’m in my 30’s. Even if you hit puberty early (like I did) that doesn’t mean you’re not going to age slowly.

      Sorry, I’m really not convinced someone wearing pastel clothes with huge tits and a youthful face is a child. It’s good advice though: sometimes staring at SL makes people forget that the avatars walking around don’t look normal or realistic at all in most cases. Most bodies and shapes are extremely stylized in one direction or another so trying to clock the age of an avatar is extremely futile.

      • There are certain facial proportions that only exist in small children. Most people here aren’t even talking about questionable teens, “Is it 16 or is it 18” bullshit. We are talking about the people who put literal toddler faces on top of (usually) hentai slut bodies, then wander around with pacifiers and stuffed animals, baby talking everything with “w” where their “r”s should be. You will often see them standing next to men who are at least double their height despite 6+ inch stilettos; a very rare disparity between 2 actual adults. If you think none of those bitches are roleplaying as underage children in sexual situations, you are terribly naive.

      • i think no one gives a fuck anymore because you people cry bout it too much .

  72. #13- Don’t know who this is, but the color and font of this secret is a nice change.

    #20 – Antigypsic? What? That is not even a word. Most people get offended cause gypsies push young, minor girls into marriages that are in complete servitude to a man. But this is what offends you?

    • G—y is a slur for people who have been discriminated against for hundreds of years in Europe, by the state and by average people, and who were actively targeted in the Holocaust just like Jewish people.

      Child marriages are a problem like, literally everywhere in the world. Child marriages are a problem in the US, look it up, have fun. But keep on keeping on with the anti-Roma sentiment I guess.

      • You and the person who posted this are looking for a problem or drama where there is none. This has ZERO to do with the Roma people. But you keep on keeping on…

      • Yeah, it’s such a slur that two countries made TV shows with that word in the name right? You know, you can support the gyspy movement in RL too. Next time you need your driveway sealed, they are the ones to go to. Do the best work, real honest. You’re welcome.

    • They were treating the Roma like shit when marrying a child to an adult man was normative for white people with property to exchange over it. So fuck off with your fake information.

  73. 9# you got my friend banned you bastard. We miss you the little sky karma come for you.

    • Karma has nothing to do with it. As unfortunate as it is Sky was banned, she mixed with some really bad people. Had she not mixed with them and was not involved in sexual conduct as a kid avatar, then she would not have been banned. What a waste for all her work, to go fucking with a known group of sexually obsessed SL kids. She chose unwisely!
      We see a lot of crying on here about bans, we don’t see anything about the people involved in these bans? I wonder why ?

      Poster is right, you all have created a cesspit where any troublemaker can be a kid and survive to cause trouble for everyone else. It’s people like that, that are causing these bans. When you going to wake up and smell the coffee brewing ? The answer has been in front of you all this time. Aiden was recorded several times in chat by many people, threatening or boasting to other kids he was some rogue Ex-Linden. He can’t even string a reply in English, without grammar mistakes and misspellings etc.
      What Linden is he ? Answer- He is not a Linden but he is a bully! A bully telling lies to bully other kid avatars.
      Reminds me of another kid, who was using Linden names to bully other kids. He was also banned with Sky, how can that not be co-incidence?
      So you know where to put your karma, there are the people responsible for Sky’s banning!

      • I think this guy is to speechless to even speak up alone to speak there mind pathetic.

      • He’s not speechless, he’s just realizing slowly how his pedo group is turning on him… He is Chester, early 20’s (if truth was told), born hermaphrodite and whatever other BS. He made friends with RL pedos, such as “Joseph Leavitt” (kidavatarmaker), who has 30+ SL alts and is or was the co-creator of a private pedo grid like DreamNation, but the grid name escapes me at the moment. Joseph, a financially poor and nephew molester RL (was living with 12yo nephew at the time), used Chester to open a public nude kid sim, so he (Joseph) could live there on a private parcel free. Joseph is KNOWN for begging for kiddie porn (man on boy) on that private grid, and kicking people out who refuse and or can’t supply. After many years… Okay, like 3-4 years, Chester has been a laughing stock. Pretending to have surgeries, age-playing with an anime Kemono avi (which keeps him safe from “child avatar”), and is now soooo pathetically lonely that, as we’ve all seem from others in SL, he/she/them wants everyone and everything shutdown. The typical, “if no one wants me, then no one can have anyone!”, loser-in-mommy’s-basement mentality. Sad panda…

      • That’s some fucked up shit. Is he one of the Oreo pedos that got exposed here too?

      • I have no clue to be honest, I just started reading SLS like 4 months ago and can’t say I’ve seen “Joseph Leavitt” mentioned. However, that name he stopped using due to infamy and made “Kam Ilsker” (kidavatarmaker) his main. He also has (kidavatarmaker2). All I know besides what I said previously, is that yes, he was definitely in the friends circle with Oreo, who is an owner of the private grid they have.

      • I knew there was something going on like that. It’s the same issue every time, is it not? Biggest perverts on the grid who think they need to be bigger than they should be. Why I do not know.
        You would think they would be happy on some grid, tossing off on whatever they watch. Even that don’t keep them happy. The unfortunate downside is they ruin a lot of positivity back in Second Life.
        I blame LL TBH, it’s obvious the permanent ban rule isn’t worth the time they take to write it. If it was, there would not be this problem.

      • There’s a website you can go to and purchase legacy SL accounts that were made specifically to sell later. I’m not going to hate on someone’s business (unless it has malicious intent), so I won’t post the site, but you can find it. It’s $30-$45 an account and tack on a VPN, Hardware Spoofer, or just “find” one of the hacked viewers that already do those for you, and yeah, anyone can return numerous times and seem like a veteran account. LL really doesn’t care about age-play (see earlier SLS’ about AviL kid body coming with fully meshed realistic pubescent genitalia and clothing looking like french whores and or underwear with little erections ON MP). However, if they get enough reports on a person, they just close the account and call it a day. This unstable routine is why there’s been some faulty bans. Son/Daughter gets mad that daddy won’t abuse them, they leave the family, get 12-20 friends to report the guy. ALL LL needs to see is the report category “age-play/abuse” enough times, no picture or logs needed. I’ve physically been to SL headquarters in San Francisco… Trust me, there’s not enough employees to even think they could investigate every single age-play report. Simpler just to make an algorithm for “12+reports>cat.ageplay>username>hold”.

      • This is “Chester”… Either he changed display names or lost his main… “Caleb Moore” (l1ght5h0wz3n)

      • Was a kid who was in Numbers family who told everyone he works with Patch Linden and was helping clean grid. Bku somethin. Has way worst English than me tbh and 20+ alts. Hides in Arbordale most times.

      • Mmm-hmm, they always end up there. Coincidence maybe ?

        Bku, Toby, Chester, Sindy, Alexander and his 20 million alts; all the ones that have either stabbed people in the back through false reports, cheated people for land, ruined other kids sims, threats to LL, lied to other kids and so on. I don’t know how the owners can sit back and think they are ok associated with that.
        Good to know you go in there and owners sell you to people, who leech off the kid community as they do and give nothing but issues back.
        So much douchebaggery going on there.

      • A friend told me the place was full of good music and chill people so I went in my teen avatar to a dj show. It was all kid avatars and one adult man who was an owner or co owner so that was some weird looking shit to me. First red flag. They started flirting with each other in local an hour later and then these guys showed up in baby avatars with diapers talking pervert shit. I left. Too WTF for me and cringy. I swear it was weeks after that all that crazy shit started coming up about them sharing photos of RL little boys in the Arbordale Discord server. That Toby bitch got mad at me on here for commenting on a secret about him being in Flickr groups with photos of RL little kids. He lied and said it was for clothing store inspiration. LOL.

      • 😆LMAO
        Oh yes, a lot of flirting going on there. Flirting and bigotry is almost an expectation. We won’t mention the hypocrisy, they get quite annoyed when we do!

      • It not true if you speaking the truth shows us your proof quit bragging and shows us proof.

  75. #32 OMG Yes hahahahaa it’s literally a fucking sale every weekend. Her shit is old and the templates she uses are cheap. She literally sticks a texture and cunt all over her items and thinks she is goth & popular when really she is just sad lonely bitter hasbeen that never was.

  78. This made me picture someone getting their head slowly squished in a vise made of large books, and that was pretty enjoyable. Meme tier autocorrect error  👍 

  79. Punctuation helps in understanding your gibberish. So “find anything” as in a partner? Friends? Waldo? Carmen Sandiego?

    Yes. It is the same crap each week? Why you here then?

  83. Facebook is gonna do what? Figure out who took an anonymous screenshot of something? They cant even ban people using their platform to post racist shit.

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