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  1. one of Secondlife life Issue, when someone hates you, but yet still contact you to pull information from you to use it against you, rumors in sl go a long way especially from someone that hates you but still try’s to contact you, what should that person do, remove them from your friend’s list block them until the world ends, the person name is Sagia the drama Queen keep an eye out for that person

  2. #2) Genus are still my most beautiful faces in SL, but mainly for photos. You’re 100% correct on “busted ass animations, shit HUD, and fucked up neck seam”. I’m not mad a LeLutka for “staying current”, tho. I would NOT call their UV maps current at all. Bye-bye all BOM options, bye-bye compatibility, it’s Evo X or nothing now (in fact see #4 and imagine creators pulling their hairs with even more work now) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    #18) I swear some people actively search for reasons to complain…

    #19) If the concept of fatpack exclusive colors is new to you, you are, indeed, a dumb fuck. If you don’t like someone’s business, just don’t buy from them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    #27) Waaaaaaaaaaaah I stole from a creator because I don’t want to pay and don’t give a shit about someone else’s work woe is me

    #40) I know <3

    #50) So… don’t buy it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • Creators love the Evo X UV, it allows them to create HD makeup in BOM, gives them more room to work when painting; that’s why there’s so much stuff made for it already. Yes, it kinda sucks to lose all your old BOM stuff, but it’s kinda like all the crying when we went to mesh body sizes from standard sized mesh- sometimes progress isn’t cheap. People who can’t afford it are going to cry the loudest, but you’d think they wouldn’t care if they really thought the stuff they have is just as good. The reason they’re salty is because they know it isn’t. Some creators are updating old purchases, but most of them won’t. But it’s still worth it, once you see it.

      Also, if you think making a personal use modification of something you purchased is “stealing”, you’re a moron- and probably have a generic clone avi if you’ve never even considered a unique mod. This is not limited to furries.

    • You say this but creators actually PREFER to work with the EvoX UV… Get with the program beloved.. Stop tryna stay in the past with compatability, evolve and accept change (if you got the money for it ofc).

  3. #27

    Hi!

    I’ve recently learned of this site a few days ago through a little poking around. I was browsing it out of boredom, but I was shocked when I came across something that needs a bit of clarification! (normally I would keep quiet, but I am heavily lacking in sleep tn, and I feel as if I should step in before anything gets messier)

    1. I will remain anonymous, but if you must know, the ‘texture stealer’ (who we will call, X) in question did not make this post! They are not that type of person. That is assholic behavior, and taking it too far. Whoever made this post was simply poking fun at Aether. X doesn’t like being a part of drama. And if it comes to it, they just stop talking and ignore/block!
    2. Aether has every right to be upset. She is a human being and her feelings are valid. With that being said, I can say that X did not intentionally set out to hurt or disrespect anyone. They were just messing around and having fun trying to create something cute for themselves.
    3. If X rightfully knew what they were doing was so wrong, they would not have posted any of the screenshots to FA for everyone to see! They have been a modder for a very long time, since back when it was common place and encouraged to heavily edit existing avatars! It may be moreso frowned upon now, but still, this person didn’t think they were being ‘bad’.
    4. X didn’t try to elude paying for the complex mod they asked Aether about! The mod that was created, was a much simpler design, and as stated before, just for fun while messing around. However, X had grown to adore their mod, and DID put a lot of love into it, as they do all of their mods, whether people like them or not! ALSO, X still had plans to go back and get their commission from Aether at a notsofaroff point in the future (:
    5. Reselling someone else’s work without permission, modified or not is a big nono! X realizes this, and would NEVER do such a thing! This mod was purely personal! And I must make that clear!
    6. X realizes that they should have gone to Aether beforehand about creating something for themselves out of their work. X also understands their punishment, and ACCEPTS it!
    7. X is ceasing any and all communications with parties involved. They feel that it is for the best that no more interactions are made and that this may die out peacefully.

    This will be my first, and final, post on VS.
    Again, I would just like to reiterate that I was making clarifications about the dilemma at hand. Do what you will with this information, but know that it’s the facts of the situation.

    Goodbye.

  4. Whoever downvoted the person who openly admitted they were Autistic after a comment they made…

    Fuck you. Your reaction says more about you than it says about them. Fucking low life’s. End of. Crawl back to your pit and do the rest of us a favour and disappear.

  5. Look up “Second Life How to make Skin tutorial” on YouTube and watch how many videos come up consisting of people ripping skin from png’s. All it is is people snatching png’s of models off of Google images, cutting the and mirroring them over a mesh head UV template in photoshop, then using puppet warp and the bare minimum amount brushwork to make it look “less” .png-ish. If half of these people actually made their own skins by hand, there would be a lot less skins for sale on the mp.

  6. Crybaby and Nugget are fucking psycho JEALOUS STALKERS. They have repeatedly doxxed and attacked me and a group of my friends. They have people griefing my sim, some asshole named Grinch who is simping for Crybaby. They gang up on people and DOXX them then post their private info in SL and on VS. Its disgusting. They have called my phone multiple times harassing me and my husband. They threatened to call my husbands job and try and get him fired. They really need to find a hobby and stop being psycho jealous bitches when they get exposed for their bullshit. Take a look at Chickentendie profile her partner has a RL pic of a friend of mine as his profile pic with DEAD NI**ER across the top of it. All of this has been reported repeatedly to LL and authorities. This is what these sad women do when they get butt hurt over something. Chickens partner has called me and my husband multiple times leaving threatening voicemails that he warned me and I should have listened.
    These two are a cancer in SL that need to be removed. They have attacked and harassed so many people at this point that it amazes me they are still even on the grid.
    I have never in my 15 years on SL ran into such disgusting, vile, petty ass bitches. The lengths they will go to just to say they won is fucking ludacris.
    Nugget is so bored in her shitty life that she literally gets off on this shit. I don’t think she has left her house since 2001.Bitch has 4 kids and just had a baby but would rather be fighting people in a virtual world. LMAO seriously you two need to just shut the fuck up already.
    I haven’t said a word on this site and I look and my fucking Doxx is posted up here once again. GET A LIFE CRYBABY AND NUGGET. Oh and Lilith you really need to stop sucking these hoes assholes because they did the SAME thing to you I was there when Nugget posted all your nudes and real life info on huge prims at Glitches but here you are trying to come at me sideways on their behalf. That is so sad, maybe you can fuck another dog and let them record it so next time they get pissed off at you they can post it all over the internet and harass you for another year! Can we say PATHETIC??? So there you have it. Keep it up and you 2 will have a problem that you cannot weasel your way out of. You really think all of this shit hasn’t been documented and sent to the proper channels? Haha y’all have a rude awakening coming your way.
    Oh and BTW Crybaby stands in Exhale and starts shit with people you can find her on her alts daddieaf, Babyclout, Kittyisdone or Cucksyou. Nugget also has many alts here are a few I know of ak47oo, itmeee, and some Pistachio stupid ass name. They have sent Columbinekid and Lucifer Glans to my sim multiple times to grief it and try and get me kicked out of my parcel. They have created so many alts to try and contact us on its pitiful. But y’all can stop now we have you all blocked and friends only on so you are messaging us and we don’t even see it. But if this is how you feel you need to come at us then Bring it. We have had enough of your lies and petty ass bullshit so do your worst. Keep on till one of you ugly bored bitches ends up in jail. You really think you can do shit like this with no repurcussions? LOL. We got you.

    • Is Nugget that festering c@nt Kammie (not sure I spelled that correctly) 😅😂🙃

      • Nah Nugget is Chickentendie… and if you are talking about Cammy? That would be ME. So who the fuck are you and what exactly did I do to you to call me a festering cunt huh? I’ll wait. SO make it good. I’m sure you are just one of Crybaby’s minions that simp for her. LOL You all need to stop you look fucking stupid as hell. Imagine creating an army of alts in SL and a bunch of fake ass names on VS to stalk and talk shit to people HAHAHA, seriously log the fuck off and get a life. Obviously you don’t know me since you can’t even spell my name right. So try again Jackass.

      • SO Kammie Bossy is you? Clarify, otherwise you are just someone who gets triggered easily at any name that slightly resembles yours. Paranoid much? 😃😃😅😝😜😅

      • Kammie Bossy? Nah thats not me. Maybe if you read the rest of the convo, you would see why I said what I said. 🙂

      • You missed the point, she thought you were talking about her because she saw “festering cunt.” Apparently she doesn’t go by any other name it seems.

      • No dumbass I thought they were talking about me because my name is Cammy… Don’t you have anything better to do then insert your nose into other peoples business? Guess not. Sad.

    • I’m just wondering, how did they get to your real life information? Is there any way people can protect themselves from this? as it seems they have multiple alts and never know who we bump into inworld. It’s a very sad situation you are in. But keep your head high and do document all the shit they are doing to you. If you have the resources you should go speak to an attorney.

    • bahahahhah no everyone last week already trash that place. Its just not worth another week of shit talking when all you can say is delusional owner and their bully admin team. I think the whole rebranding I hear about is the biggest joke ever. Like rebranding won’t fix shitty staff.

      • oh yes such a lie, so much so that, they had to rebrand after being open only 3 months. That’s just shady as hell there. But sure this one is a lie, I mean despite everyone in sl telling others not to bother with it. Whatever helps you sleep at night, you are probably one of the toxic fucks from there.

      • You’re way too easy to agitate. I’m neither, just the troll you know.

      • well this is a site full of mostly trolls. Just trolling each other.

    • I smell either someone who staff there or a kiss ass. Like everyone knows FoC was one of the worst sims. Major cliche issues, Major bullying staff, I heard they attacked a girl for asking question on a story there. I heard they let their chosen few break rules and everyone else was a fuck you. Those chosen ended up making staff. So yeah, you can say false all you want, but the whole fantasy community knows it was shit and rather it stay closed.

    • Since I don’t need to make 3-4 accounts to respond to an obvious bait. I’ll add here some legitimate advice. Since you’ll flap your gums a little more thinking this site even remotely hides who you are. If what they did to you was actually that bad why not contact LL? Considering FoC was representing SL I bet, if your shit talking amounts to so much legitimate agony for you that for a month and a half (yeah we all here know you’re obsessively spanking them) they’ll do something, IF you’re legit. you just keep spamming toxicity and clear, actual hate like any one man army against a ‘toxic sim’ (which btw, almost noones heard of in the community you claim, hates them) and IF FoC doesn’t actually exist anymore; why do we still have to hear about it? This isn’t news, it’s not SL drama, it’s not even your dirty laundry. This, is actual psychotic behaviour :’D and I just wanna poke it.

      • meh I heard of them in passing, but not enough to care about. I seen it here a few times, but eh people like to bitch about anything. Most have said their peace on it few weeks back. It just like fox hollow or Cedar Creek. Just rubbish and will be eventually forgotten.

  8. OP of #7 & #31 and the other posts I could get approved for this site. Its great to see you all tearing each others throats and throwing names around. I won’t be mentioned for now and you can all focus on the REAL problems in furry world. I did as much digging as I could to back and support that these were facts. (had some personal experience with them too)
    Sad to see one was taken down, excited to see each group ripping into all the bitches and fucks that pretend to be high and mighty on SL. Much love! 😂😘

      • I was about to say, This sounds awfully a lot like Azu. The name Hecate, the fact ” i won’t be mentioned for now and you can all focus on the REAL problems” There’s also the fact of. Look at some of her posts on her new twitter. The fact also that it’s mentioned they had personal experience with them. ( Also, idk what was posted at #31, but it just says nice try for me) Either way, it’s got azusa written all over this. PLUS! there’s plenty of other posts on here that has her written all over them too. Like last weeks #2, she has been spitting that shit around for weeks before that went up. Wonder how her mistress will feel knowing she’s on here getting into drama and stirring pots she shouldn’t….

      • Well she tweets about ‘treat SL like the game it is’. Like okay, then. Practice what the fuck you preach!! Not to mention it’s obvious if she’s claiming to be behind #31’s post she’s also the one after Celeste because her dumb ass gave her antics away with her file names. It’s pathetic and frankly it’s very sad that she is so hellbent on playing the victim due to her own behaviors and is now trying to bring down the community that ostracised her due to her toxic antics. She is acting purely out of spite because she is no longer welcome anywhere. She has burned bridges on her own accord. She has brought minors to 18+ escort venues on SL so she has -no- right to pull this shit and point fingers at -anyone- calling them a pedo.

        Azu, literally, please go to fucking therapy. You claim you’re abused at home and shit is so bad.. Look at how you behave!!! You’re becoming everything you fucking hate. You’re literally an abuser! Go the fuck away. You lost everything. Accept that you did this to yourself. The community is tired of your instigation and honestly, it’s way more peaceful when you stay in your lane and leave people alone.

      • I can’t see #31’s post.https://gyazo.com/b73652f78a76d52a7172c01dc9efeef7 So unsure what was said. Either way. She brought a minor to an 18+ venue? What!? which venue and how old was the person? Also, She claims everyone abuses her, everyone else is the abuser but she never realizes how SHE abuses people. How the fact that some people will let her just spout shit, so they don’t have to deal with the aftermath of her getting upset they didn’t let her get her own way.

        Then when THEY finally snap on her after getting sick of it for so long, she plays the victim. Tries to tell everyone that that person abused her and makes up a bunch of sob stories.

      • The post of 31 was her trying to accuse someone of pedophila when they weren’t a pedophile.

        Ironic considering the fact she groomed a minor for a sexual relationship with her.

        Apparently the minor she brought to adult places was around 16-17

        She apparently dated them at 18, but it could be considered grooming as she was speaking to them as minors and bringing them to sexually explicit places as to basically prep them.

        And she also could be lying to cover her own ass knowing her history of being a compulsive liar.

        I think she may possibly be still dating that person to this day.

        Keep in mind Azusa is like in her 20’s now and doing this.

      • Not surprising, I’ve heard from several guys that she begs for dick pics. She’s creepy af.

    • good job azusa outting yourself right here. maybe practice what you preach on your twitter babe.
      ‘facts’ with no proof but aiight

    • I mean, I am not tearing at anyone’s throat about anything? At the end of the day it didn’t effect me at all. Just found it sad that I haven’t spoken to you in like 2 years, and you are still behaving like this? I feel really sad for you Azusa, you had so many chances and to grow and improves yourself. Much like the rest of us, but you still choosing this petty road.
      I was only tossed up here, along with a few others who were randomly brought up. Because you or someone else can’t get over themselves, or their just trying to get the heat off them.
      I really do wish you the best, and I hope you learn something from this.
      I don’t know if this is actually Azusa, or someone faking being Azusa. Or Azusa faking to be Azusa to try to pretend some crazy thing.
      The fact of the matter, this didn’t really effect me. I found it humorous, along with my community. It’s just water off a ducks back.
      Have a good week.

    • Yea, so how’s therapy and that break working out for ya?

      Ya know after screwing over people who bend over backwards for you only to get fed up with your bullshit and publicly call you out on multiple platforms you just magically hop to a new account and have a clean slate and are going to therapy overnight, wouldn’t you know it; new fucking drama about people you’ve had bad blood with in the past magically has new shit spewed about them on here that same week you make that an announcement you’d be off the internet for a while to get help.

      Interesting. For someone going to therapy I would really think you wouldn’t come back to a place like this, but of course you can’t help yourself, after all always gotta come back and see your handy work of all the people you’ve spread lies about and tear them down just cause you ruined your own reputation in almost every community you join.

      Just gotta make everyone else miserable just cause you’re a fucking miserable little child.

      Hey remember those times you lied on here months ago about not going out of your sl home despite being at angels? Oh let’s not forget the lying about not being in a relationship for two years despite your most recent incidents. Ya know “who wants a cheater” from a relationship you had how many months ago now that would constantly bitch about how abusive he was. Jesus fucking Christ man.

      If you REALLY want to leave shit in the past how about don’t come on here and participate, ever thought of that, Azusa?

      You can keep making new alts and new names but people are still going to know who you are and how terrible of a fucking person you’ve been too people along with all the clubs and hangouts you’ve brought down because of your dumbass drama you have with everyone else in the community.

      Here’s an idea honey, maybe close your mouth and your legs. Also maybe don’t get fucking fall in love just cause someone gives you attention for 0.5 seconds. Obsessive and unhinged as fuck when this bitch latches onto your dick and attempts to dry hump it for days.

      Oh and good luck being this girls friend. She’ll lie about you to everyone she knows and then act like your the best person in the world. Hell go as even has far as to date you cause she “values” you so much. Oh, and if you got a partner she’ll want them too. Package deal, amIrite?

      Now reading some comments below, you fucking brought a minor to a fucking place that was for escorts?!?! I knew you a shitty person but man you really set a new bar.

      Pretty sad to say the least. All this shit you’ve done but you still want to go around being “UwU I’m baby.” and that your innocent and everyone else around you are the villains. I don’t know what delusion you got to be living in to genuinely think that. Like you seriously got to be on some strong ass drugs to seriously believe your own lies you spread about people.

      You’re seriously fucked in the head for that shit. You’ve attempted to ruin multiple genuine tangible relationships. You’ve pushed multiple people to self harm and there have been some cases that those people even contemplating suicide because of the shit you’ve said and done that was so damaging to their mental well being.

      Someone could try to make a list of all the fucked up shit you’ve done but good god that shit would be way too long.

      I fucking pray that there will be someday you see some damn light and actually fix yourself cause this is some really damning shit.

      However, I get that is really some wishful thinking, but I honestly believe before that day comes you’ll either be IP banned off the grid or arrested for behavior that’s been progressively been getting worse and worse.

      We will just have to see.

    • This is not azusa. I haven’t been on here and was only brought to my attention by a friend. This isn’t me and I’m contacting to file charges. I don’t care to post on here or be here if im on here my name has to do with tea. So please leave me out of this. I want no part and i did contact the owner of this site to get the information of this person. Really sad people have to pretend to be me to get attention. But I assure you all not me. When do I say “Group ripping all the bitches and fucks that pretend to be high and mighty. Ew. I haven’t made any posts or been on here. I’ve been getting new land, helping out ner clubs, and doing my own thing so just cause it says “Hecate” doesn’t mean me. It’s a goddess after all and is popular to google the shit. I don’t care to slam anyone or deal with bullshit anymore. My Twitter is new as i wanted a fresh start and I wanted away from the bs. So person impersonating me. Nice. You saw I had peace in my life and I was staying away from the trouble you decide to try and pretend to be me cause you cannot quit and leave me alone as I been away from this damn sight and game for almost a month now. I’m done with it. I will not be posting on here any more comments, posts or anything (like i ever did) And honestly leave me the fuck alone. I’m done. I do not care to post anyone up on here, i do not care to see people i dislike or have the effort and time to post someone on this fucking sight when its a toxic cesspool of bullshit and hate. Alot of people who post on here need help and need to quit pretending to be me. I done things im not proud of. but im seriously done with having issues with people and i want my own peace and quiet. So do me a favor. Leave me the fuck alone and quit bringing me back here because you all think its me based on a name “hecate”
      And google the many names on sl that has hecate in it. Jesus people.

      HEKATE (Hecate) was the goddess of magic, witchcraft, the night, moon, ghosts and necromancy. She was the only child of the Titanes Perses and Asteria from whom she received her power over heaven, earth, and sea. … In statuary Hekate was often depicted in triple form as a goddess of crossroads.
      Goddess of: Witchcraft, magic, ghosts
      Parents: Perses and Asteria
      Retinue: Lampades, ghosts
      Symbols: Two torches

  9. Ew are you all adults here because every one of you sounds like middle school kids. “She did this, he did that, hate them! Omg! Cry, whine, throw a fit. I didn’t get my way” ..Gross

  10. 46 ehub is the sewer of secondlife. And Jen is it’s pedo Queen. Everything from her voice to her big ass is gross. She has to cyber age players cause she’s a desperate fat ho.

    • i’ve been crashing that shithole for the last month at least the real people woke up and left that sim

  11. Oh no, someone is cheating on their BF/GF. How does this effect you?

    Winge winge, bitch bitch, this head sucks, this head glitches, this head does this, this head does that….if you can make a better one, then go for it? 98% of people bitching about them, use them.

    RP towns fighting? LETS GO TO WAR! Yeah calm down buddy.

    Some people like being abused, apparently its a real thing?

    Hairline, makes you look like a Cave Women? guess you have never seen real people hairlines?

    Oh here goes the Pedo clames again, this will never get old, still no one showing actual proof.

    Second life DJ’s… DJ, disc jockey – noun – a person who introduces and plays recorded popular music, especially on radio or at a club. Weird right?

    L$1700 entry fee? wtf do you get with that? fully set up house i would hope

    I agree with the fat pack only colors, and whats with places like psyco pils charging L$250 PER ITEM! , i mean 250 for a full outfit sure, but PER ITEM?

    Don’t wear that hair! its only for African Americans! *insert sarcastic laugh here*

    Who is Devon Reggiane?

    Did they not sleep with you? is that why you are calling them hoes?

    Every head looks Asian, except the catwa queen, and i do mean EVERY head

    34 has a good point, just move on?

    Nude beach, is that like that other one, where they kick you off for ” Looking young” ?

    Aww, we are loved, something nice on here for once ♥

    You’re bitching about something being 50L, seriously? I can give you the 50L if you’re that hard up?

    Yeah, 5400 for a fatpack is, how can i put this……BULLSHIT CRAZY! i mean, really? who the fuck is going to pay that much for a fatpack?

  12. I would rather wear genus and be pretty then lelutka and look like a troll with big ears

    • So.. You’d rather wear genus and be pretty then lelutka and be a troll with big ears? Or did you mean you’d rather wear genus and be pretty THAN lelutka and look like a troll with big ears? Because otherwise you’re just wearing genus and wearing lelutka after. If it’s the latter, enjoy those crooked and cock eyed eyes or not able to use animations and having to buy third party things to fix the product and never getting updates.

      • U big mad cause lelutka can never come for genus …like I said all lelutka girls are ugly and cockeyed and don’t get me started on the side of the head…it’s no animation that important that will have me looking like aliens vs predator

      • Girl bye you could never. Hating from outside of the club. Lelutka CAN come for Genus and already DID. You delusional or what? Facts or facts. Creators are even putting creating products for Genus on hold because the situation is sketchy. You mad Genus pushed to the side now in the sl market, go cry😂😂 Bitchh if you dont know how to shape a Lelutka head then say that, because Lelutka heads are 10x better. Stop hating and give credit where credit is due. BOTH heads look good, Genus just has the shit end of the stick with all them bugs.

      • You look like outdated static garbage, and I bet your profile view is busted as fuck because people this stupid only look at their face straight on and think they look good LOL

        I paid all that extra shit to make my Genus head work like the rest of the marks, but I’m not cheap, lazy, or delusional enough to stick with it when progress is leaving me behind. It’s OK though, you’ve probably got tits and ass like jiggly ass helium balloons and they distract from your cross-eyed, blank stare.

      • Mkay. Lelutka did come and gone for Genus. You’re a little slow on the uptake but it’s okay. Check out the Lelutka page and see all the updates to the heads that have been rolling out. What is it, like 9 so far? And Genus people and products sitting there like “Why can’t we get love?”

      • All the female Evo heads are updated to Evo X now- that’s 14 different, up to the minute options, and the male heads are rolling out as we speak. 3 Evo X releases, and the Evo line is not far behind for men. Lelutka is absolutely murdering the competition in the mesh head market.

      • Ah, well then I stand corrected on the number of Evo heads out that are supported, updated and maintained by Lelutka compared to Genus.

      • “lelutka can never come for genus” yeah ok, that’s why no one makes genus outdated garbage anymore and everyone makes lelutka now, just keep lying to yourself…those updates are coming any day now..
        idiot

    • The ears work on a slider, you absolute retard. They can be Will Smith tiny or Dumbo big. Is that the best you can do with your crossed eyes and inability to so much as blink without glitching unless you buy a third party face AO? lol

      • Ok unseasoned troll with them big foreheads and dented eyes….go straight to hell with them egg shaped heads

      • More things that are completely controlled by sliders; are you really this stupid? If you don’t know how to make shapes, you could just admit it or at least shut the fuck up. What the hell does “dented eyes” even mean lmao, like that makes no sense, but it’s ok. Low value men can be really flattering to ugly shit when you’re easy; gives you all ego you don’t really deserve.

      • This person must not know how to change shapes, this is funny

      • Everything on every head, works on a slider, if your head is fat or your ears are tweeked out.. thats on you. Use sliders

    • Keep waiting for that ‘big update’ to come LOL . Keep kissing their lazy asses, you do it good , by insulting other brands that guess what ; actually update their stuff and do no ghost their people . lmfao , Fuck off now ,you dumb person.

  13. 49, the amount of times this place is plugged it feels more like an advertisement, they should stop already

  14. i love tht my dox is sitting here once again and i said nothing 😀 but too pussy to face me. lets play

  15. #46. E-Hub is the trash bin of Second Life. The people who hang out there are social outcasts IRL. They have no lives and no social interactions with other human beings so they all gather at that sim and abuse and belittle each other or stroke their unusually large egos. Jen has no RL and her SL is everything to her. She pretends to be a RL social worker in order to make herself feel superior to her hub sheeple and then age-plays sexual RP with every male who hangs out at her sim. Shame on you Jen/VanillaIcedCoffee. Since I know your reading these comments, hear this. You need to close down your sim, leave SL for a while. Focus on your RL health and your RL relationships (if you have any left). You are dangerously overweight, your mental health is in serious decline, your middle-aged and single. Clearly, this is not where you wanted to be in life at your age. So, go out and get healthy and leave this game behind. You had your little moment of popularity but that has come and gone. It’s time to move on Hunny. Go live life before you die of a heart attack, with your face down in a box of take-away food, in a diaper at your computer desk.

  16. 46. RIP Ehub and it’s trash. Buncha disgusting perverts and chubby baby talking wannabe bbgs now. Oh snd Jen who’s pants size is only less than her englated false ego.

    • I don’t know what the hell this is about but how weird is it to record convos with friends and even lie to them about it (when she said don’t record MY RECORDED CONVO lol)

      Wtf

      Makes me cringe to the bone. Hope I will never meet “friends” like this.

      • Agreed… that’s the social scum she allows there. Along with verified underage children irl, accused pedofiles and stalker, legit doxers, and banned residents of the game. How linden lab hasn’t shut down the sim and banned her on so many tos issues is shocking. It’s all over YouTube. Search ehub, vanilla iced coffee, Boyd, etc. it’s sickening

      • nothing wrong with doxxing people that deserve it you should try it sometime its ok to dox pedophiles

    • SHE CLAIMS SHE WORKS W/ CHILDREN IRL .. SHE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM GAME PERIOD AND PUT IN A PADDED ROOM.

    • JESUSSSS THAT BITCH NEVER STOPS TALKN. SO FUKIN FULL OF HERSELF. HAVE YOU SEEN HER IRL? AND THEN HEARING THAT… VOMITSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    • WTF, who is that guy on the tape? they both sound SICK AF.

      • The owner of ehub and and some dude she was cyber age playing with. When he wouldn’t partner her she starting telling everyone bout his kinks as if she wasn’t part of it.. UNTIL she got caught in this recording

    • Go watch the hour long video too! The bitch flat out says that as long as age play is “consensual” between two adults, it’s okay. I’ve never met her (thank fucking Christ) and wouldn’t dream of it but hearing some of the vile shit she said on that discord call was gut churning. She needs serious help and whoever this creep is she has a hard-on for, he needs to be thrown in jail.

    • I finally got the time to listen to it, one big pile of YIKES there.

      Hoping LL steps in soon and rids SL of this trash pedo enabler.

  18. #25 If you don’t like them, then why are they on your friends list? Not saying they are any good as I don’t know them, but you have to be a right royal cunt to stab your own friends in the back like that.

  19. Instead of throwing the words abuse and cheating around all the time people should start doing their homework. Alot of people on SL have mental issues that’s nothing new, maybe not even something to blame them for. Rather than that educate yourself on love bombing and common red flags of abusive behaviour.

    Someone who gets intense very quick and/or promises you love and good times forever after a few days/weeks of talking might not come from a healthy place and will very likely do this with anyone available. That’s the point where you need to take care of yourself instead of blindly jumping in to cry foul afterwards!

    Be more careful and patient with who you “fall in love” with then there is no need for endless revenge memes on VS.

    Have a good one!

    • Yes. Exactly. Real feelings don’t need to push for commitment from the word go; they can wait, build, and grow naturally without rushing. Deep-seated insecurity is where the desperate rush to commit comes from. Nearly everyone moves too fucking fast in SL and then they get all butthurt and confused when someone they knew for 2 weeks breaks their heart, like yeah you didn’t know that person at all, even if you spent every waking moment of that 2 weeks together. You were in a bubble, and it wasn’t anything like the reality of a long term relationship. Hell, your “love” could have been dual logged doing the exact same thing with another person at literally the same time.

      You need to see how they deal with less than ideal situations and not getting what they want, make sure they have a fucking LIFE outside of wanting to be with you, hobbies other than trying to get pixel laid- because it’s absolutely vital that a person be able to entertain themselves without you. Otherwise, what they’ll be doing when you’re not around is seeking the next person to take your spot, complaining about you to them, hoping their next “someone” will fill that bottomless pit of need that no one could possibly fill alone.

      That doesn’t mean liars, manipulators, and cheaters get a pass just because their victims believed too fast. It just means, like maybe make a bit of an effort to protect yourself? Being single doesn’t have to be lonely, and if it’s unbearable for you, you might need as much mental help as the people who keep taking advantage of your trust.

    • They won their DMCA case? There’s a win.

      • Lol right, OP said this as if something is preventing them from winning.. Blame the Genus team

      • At this point if I was on the Genus team I would quit, too much shady and suspect shit done by the creator herself. Come on Genus team, if you read this you know its time to pack up, no need to keep defending her when you probably know she ain’t living up to her promises and at this point is probably not coming back.

      • Please name one “shady and suspect” thing you can prove the Genus team has done. You realize being accused of something doesn’t mean shit right, especially if you beat the accusation? Being slow to update isn’t “shady and suspect”, it’s just lazy and disappointing.

      • Ok, shady.

        The 1st DMCA. She received it, was notified to take products down, then after months she showed the notification from LL telling her because there was no further notice in 10 days, the DMCA is void. Why did it took months ? https://www.lindenlab.com/legal/intellectual-property-infringement-notification-policy

        The 2nd DMCA explanation that’s shady AF. Read it on discord. She hired 5 lawyers + 1, she was ignored, but this time for some shady reason Linden didn’t act as before (10 days no notice, DMCA closed). Then somehow she solved it, she doesn’t tell us how.

        The lack of communication.

        The constant excuses. Now they say she has a baby. Before was DMCA. Covid. School. Could it be that Genus SIM and Discord are open only because it still makes enough money to pay the sim rent and some profit, while telling everyone including her CSR’s lies, just to milk it a bit more time ?

      • Yeah, I guess you don’t really know what those words mean lol

        It’s cool, not everyone is literate.

      • @Be Less Ignorant

        Okay brainwashed Genus bootlicker, seems like you can’t stop defending them even when Genus has done shady and suspect shit (I am not talking about the DMCA shit), and even everyone else is seeing Genus for what they are and are going to other head brands.

      • If you paid any attention to anything, you’d know I already moved on from Genus- but not because I think their dev team is “shady”, just because they moved too slow and got left behind. (ETA: The exact same reason I moved on from Belleza- lack of updates- and I don’t think that creator is “shady” either. He just doesn’t prioritize his SL business enough to properly take care of his customers.)

        I think it’s stupid as fuck to assume that just because a total stranger didn’t give you total transparency about their personal life to excuse why they’re being slow pushing updates, that there’s something dishonest going on, lacking literally any evidence of that. Have fun with your baseless assumptions and retarded ass conspiracy theories 👍

      • @Be Less Ignorant

        Can’t even defend yourself correctly so you just call shit “baseless assumptions” and “conspiracy theories”… bruh those insults are so overused now that it just makes you look weak.

        Also, you yourself could try and be… a little less ignorant.

      • I get that language is hard for you, but that’s exactly what you have when your only excuse for thinking someone is being “shady and suspect” is “THEY AREN’T TELLING US EVERYTHING EVERY STEP OF THE WAY”. Please familiarize yourself with what constitutes evidence, and what is just assumption. You’ll find that you have absolutely nothing that qualifies as evidence. The only truly ignorant person in this thread is you, due to your lack of comprehension regarding what is probably the only language you speak. That’s kinda sad. If English is not your first language, it’s slightly less sad, but even more stupid you chose this semantic hill to die on.

      • I got a dislike for that comment 😂

        I mean.. dislike it all you what whomever didn’t like what I had to say, but it’s the truth lol. They won their case, made this big post about coming back and updates were going to happen soon. Here we are.. about a year later since the DMCA was resolved and still no updates. Suck it up buttercups.

      • I got a dislike for that comment 😂

        I mean.. dislike it all you what whomever didn’t like what I had to say, but it’s the truth lol. They won their case, made this big post about coming back and updates were going to happen soon. Here we are.. about a year later since the DMCA was resolved and still no updates. Suck it up buttercups.

    • Not happening lol, it’s time for the GENUS Project team to pack it up at this point.

  21. I JUST READ ON FOX HOLLOW WEBSITE THAT SCARLETT AND BUBBLES STOLE OVER 30K FROM CAMP? DAMN BITCH NEEDS MONEY FOR CHICCY NUGGIES AND SODIES, I FEEL BAD FOR HER

    • I heard she’s doing drugs with the money. CRACK that is

    • There is way too much going on with Genus…

      Broken promises (no updates as repeatedly promised)
      Issues with the animations (especially the eyes/blinking)
      Repeatedly DMCA’ed (once is ok cause of the salty fools on SL, more than once and a brand starts looking sus)
      And if people are to believed, the Genus staff gets mad when you complain about legit issues/problems with the heads.

      And also according to people, the Genus creator has gone radio silent completely with no word on the actual progress of updating her heads. At this point the creator has to come out and say something, its not fair to the people who bought/buy her heads and the Genus staff needs to stop playing defense for a creator who is willfully absent from their brand.

      • But they can post a in development male head asking for designer support, give it to designers right before skin fair and then drop out of skin fair at the last minute because “it wasn’t ready”. Time frame for this btw was between Sept (posted the designer support on facebook) and March (Skin Fair). Join their discord and read the #updates channel to see the outrage. They can do this.. without fixing their current broken products. And then basically disappear off the grid and a lot of people are pissed off. There’s been a lot of faith lost in the brand. I mean fuck, when TMP did this shit (lack of updates, shitty customer support, sus behavior, and radio silence) it was dropped like a ton of bricks real quick.

      • The DMCA was filed twice by the same person because they failed to appear to defend it the first time. It’s only “sus” if you don’t know what you’re talking about. They failed hard on getting things updated on a reasonable timeline, but there’s no reason to believe they stole anything.

    • Yep, she seems super obsessive and comes off as one of those people who needs mental help with the way she is posting and acting on here..

      • You guys remember the last time there was major drama about her and a “friend” was all over the comments swearing she had left SL and was happy and unbothered taking care of rl?

        Pepperidge Farm remembers.

      • Man thats hilarious.
        How tf she quit SL when she’s still running around gambling at sims and harassing people @ Exhale?

        Thats so fucking sad. She even brags that she’s teaching her daughter to dox people on video games as well.
        There is sooo much tea man it’s sad.

        I think the saddest piece of tea is when she got upset with her ex for dating a black woman. And then she says “wow what a waste of white genes. How would your mom feel if you had mud babies with a N-word.”

        Like… bruh. She is the nastiest person I have ever met on SL.

        (Update.) They finally came up and could only talk about dox stuff. Red lining on the mics. Sadly they were banned but.. another ass whoopin deserved.

      • @Velvet Puthy

        I’ve never personally been to Exhale lmao, I am not into that music plus I have seen Exhale drama end up here on VS multiple times.

        These women sound so immature and pathetic, glad they got banned if they are only going to stir up drama because ain’t nobody got time for that.

      • Man ,stop kissing their asses . If their team cares about the customers , they should be the ones talking and explaining shit , not you . Stop trying to defend this lazy ass project . Shame on them .

      • Hey nugget I heard you were in a high risk pregnancy since February cuz you had a cyst on ya placenta???
        So why were you on sl stressing yourself out more over more pixel cock??? And trying to be a internet bully???
        Congrats on the new kid you had a month ago. Will you be fake leaving sl again?

        And Crybaby stop using philly and find a man possibly someone that doesn’t divorce u this time.
        Focus more on those teeth too.
        Don’t blame kitty for actually being cute.

        These bitches are no one to be afraid of. Just laugh.

      • @Fix

        I am not any of these women lmao, all three sound like immature little bitches that cant be bothered to put their big girl pants on and move along. Just shows that they are just as bad as the other two, and shows they enjoy this bullshit drama as much as the other two.

        If you know any three of these women and are reading this, its time to pack up because none of them are worth it to risk your own health, happiness, and so on. Cut them out of your lives and be done with whatever bullshit they do, because to me who is just hearing about this shit through VS it seriously seems like these three bitches aren’t worth it.

        Edit: Also the guys (Philly, etc) in the middle of this drama aren’t worth it either it seems like. The dudes play their own part in this shit and obviously can’t grow a pair big enough to tell the three bitches to grow up and get a life where they aren’t acting like immature bitches and clean their acts up.

        Point blank, any other men would tell them to grow up and dump and block their ass simply because the three of them invite drama and most wouldn’t put up with this shit.

  24. #36 those EC owners are crazy. I seen them claim to want everyone involved in rp, but ignore players that don’t bow to them and worship them. The fact that their staff is pretty much gone says alot and the sim never has a player base. However they want to waste money keeping it open that’s on them.

    • If that’s Empire of Crowns, yes I can agree. And if you don’t worship their staff they find a way to ban you and kick you out of their cult.

      • no its Ebonrune Chronicles, but I know that EoC owners are fucking crazy with their staff. Had a friend kicked out before he even started, cause one staff didn’t like them from another sim. Didn’t break a rule at all, was told not welcome in EoC…so yeah. Plus ALOT of toxic players went to EoC.

  25. 8.Lmbo. You obviously don’t know them like I do. Artie is a BAD ASS who lines up hot side-chicks for her man! Someone is salty

  26. Crybaby Uwu, you are so dumb, you exposed yourself when you posted #24. No one claims Ida Brooklyn is Kitty’s alt but you do and it’s not her alt. So, we all know you posted it. Lie to people all you want telling them that you didn’t post it, we are not buying it. You are a spineless dumb bitch who hide behind your trash friends and you can only try to abuse people behind fake names on secrets loser. It’s a cringe you lie so comfortably. You are a cold-blooded liar, you need psychological help. You are OBSESSIVE and CRAZY as fuck and you been obsessing over Kitty for a long time. Stop being a dumb psycho or you will get roasted here for a long time.

    • I wish Crybaby would stop sending her dumb friends to post for her… And actually post so we can roast her. -sighs-

      In-world she ran crying because she couldnt handle the drama she caused.

    • That’s because she’s the type of Yellow bellied bitch to throw bricks and hide her hand. Shes weak. Mad over a game.

  27. So wait wait wait… Crybaby is upset with Kitty because she was talking to Philly @ Exhale?
    Girl what? Why do you care who talks to Philly when you talked so bad about him. You told everyone he was broke, you said his place was dirty, you said he has hole in his socks, and some other shit I cant say.
    But you disrespected that man accusing him of cheating when you cheated and we all witnessed it.
    Then you’re still causing drama on SL? After the shit you and Nugget has been through?
    This is hilarious.
    Stalking a female online all because your ex was entertaining her.
    If you was so “bad” why do you have to convince other females boyfriends to fuck with you?

    Bad bitches dont have to stalk and harass others to get what they want.
    and you get jealous when a female stands next to him? Yeah youre not a bad bitch thats an insecure bitch lol.

    • yet she never went to see philly and got her cheeks clapped by sum rando from sl she met up with irl in las vegas n bragged about it.
      yea bitch i tried to be mature about it but ima tell everyone everythingsince yall wana keep posting my dox lmao

      • Such an irony Crybaby UwU (former MeshedUpp / Crybaby Alpha) slut shames girls on SL and attempts to makes fun of them, when she is a true cum-dump in RL. Yikes!

      • No hun, you can’t be mature with these cunts. Nugget is crazy. But Crybaby, she is worse, she is the definition of a Sociopath who uses everybody around her. But she is not smart enough to mastermind shit. She is dumb. She started shit and fucked up badly. We are playing your game bitches. Does it feel good?

      • Damn I wish everyone would’ve been there they both were SCREAMING on their mics.
        Nugget sounded like she was going to cry. (plays the world’s smallest violin.)

        And I dont feel bad one bit.
        They dont like the taste of their own medicine at all.

        It was funny tho they were both screaming on mic like “You will never be wives!” (crybaby is divorced and nugget is in an unhappy marriage). “I will call CPS on your one child!”
        “Wheres your kids?!?”
        “Oh really?!”
        “Pull up to Italy!” (as if Italy is down the street lol)
        “I will shoot you!”
        “You have nothing!”

        And I was just sitting there with like my calm voice… Did not have to raise it at all. Laughing and singing baby shark (because them teeth are jacked).
        It was a fucking circus.

      • @Velvet Puthy

        LMAO… these bitches really sound pathetic and obviously they need help, but first their computers need to be taken away.

    • I bet if all of nuggets victims had her info she would stfu

  28. #50
    Not even that, it comes in 3 different parts, and each part all cost the same.
    Shoe: 250
    Socks: 250
    Leg Band: 250
    JUST FOR ONE COLOR!
    Then you have to buy fatpack of each item. THEN Fullpack to have it all of 5k+….
    Honestly was one of the BIGGEST Ripp off’s of all TIME!

  29. #18: TRUTH! I don’t know how people successfully keep FB accounts for their SL avatars because I can’t. I don’t want my real life info to be connected to my SL avatar because it’s very easy to violate someone’s privacy. I also don’t want to spam my non-SL friends with bullshit FB ads. Stores who do this, I have a message for you. Fuck off! Put up a board in your store to click. Do it through Flickr. Just stop with the FB BS.

    • Some people can do it. I have an SL FB account that has NO RL people on it so it is 100% separate. I’ve had no issues. I’ve found so many great deals in SL with my SL FB account. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, I get it but telling stores to “fuck off”……really?

      Sorry your missing out. Not the stores fault. There are more people on SL FB than Flickr. Not everyone has a Flickr or even an account.

      • If you read what #18 actually said, SL FBs are routinely deleted for not being real people. You are only one report away from that acc being struck down, considering FB disables accounts for frivolous things anyways. If you have the time and energy to make an entire FB for a SL avatar, then you can redirect that energy to Flickr, a platform where that is actually allowed and abundant.

  31. 42. I use a lelutka head and catwa mesh eyes because I like the way the eye moves.. it’s not really that hard. also there’s a such thing as an eyefix that keeps your eyes still. soo, keep using the eyes as the excuse to not like something when there’s plenty of fixes.

    • There’s also a built in eye fix in the lelutka hud in the animation tab. Just click the center of the L and/or R and it turns on just the eyes. Ta-da, frozen in place eyes.

  32. Pedos pedos everywhere /yawn where’s the proof?

    Catwa is overpriced garbage with very little creator support, Genus are scammers. So what are you left with LAQ? Barely any creator support. Logo? Barely any creator support. AK? Barely any creator support (getting better now they can use LeL Evo skins). Ga’eg? Barely any creator support. Genesis? Do they still make heads? Then we have LeLutka, one of the 3 OG mesh head makers (Catwa, Logo, LeLutka *seeing as TSG and TMP no longer make heads*) who gets loads of support, has great shapes, working animations, updates their stuff. There’s a clear winner here, be it by monopoly or not. They’ve earned their throne.

    As a consumer, you don’t have to upgrade or purchase anything. You’re not being held at gunpoint, stop whinging about your own choices ya dafty.

    People on child avis, are grown ass adults. (creepy ones at that) So I don’t get the child endangerment.

    Most SL DJs aren’t really DJs, they’re human bots that press play. There’s no mixing, beat matching, track recreation.

    Syn’s regions are fucking gorgeous. You don’t want to pay to be there, don’t. Again, no one is forcing you to.

    It’s easier to do a FB giveaway due to all the random comment selectors available for it, vs Flickr.

    Dreads aren’t for “black people only” look at the history of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks

    Slut-shaming in SL.. you know they’re not actually fucking ye? Do you think this is RL?

    Again, people whinging about prices, you are not forced to pay for it. Stop trying to determine a creator’s worth by your stinginess. Go ahead and keep spending £30 on takeaway and not understand how a creator who works a month on something might ask for something comparable.

    • The child endangerment comment is because the accounts accessing the virtual camp -are- children in RL. Per their explaination on the SL forum:
      “It is a 6 region camp that was beautifully built up by LL. It is all done through a program which disables children/teenagers from exiting those regions thus accessing anything above not age appropriate. All of our counselors are fully background checked for criminal/child abuse and have passed before being hired. Children are age verified with their parent on Zoom with the director as well!”

      It sounds like this is a business venture set up through LL with special limitations for access. Still, I probably wouldn’t put any kid of mine into it. SL isn’t something I’d want on their radar at all if avoidable since the rest of SL is not safe.

      • Oh ok. That’s actually really interesting, and potentially inovative. I don’t think I’d have an issue with my weeun on SL if, and only if it was a locked 6 regions, only people that sign up specifically for that are allowed, and I was allowed to meet these “councillors” via Zoom, and go over the curriculum etc with them on a regular check in basis. For young teens, LL can really spark some tech and creative avenues. Also having a different login-viewer not shared with regular SL would be good. That way the bairns have no access, and SLers have no access.

      • Och Mun! you will have confused them with Bairns, translation, children, kids, ankle biters,

      • That’s well and fine for this instance, but then what about when camp is over? When the kids want to “play the game some more”? No chance if they’re under 13. And if they are, what’s left is SL proper and SL proper (even with their rules about teenagers using the platform) is too risky short of only letting your kids on when you can sit with them and only letting them into sims you approve of.

        It sounds like unnecessary risk and/or showing kids something they can’t keep using which is kinda shit for the kid.

      • What happens when RL camp is over and the kid wants to stay living in the woods and riding horses? They have to wait till next year or till they turn 13. It’s not supposed to be a fulltime outlet for them as much as it’s supposed to be a summer activity, from everything that I’ve heard and read about it.

      • We know it’s not supposed to be a full-time outlet of course, we can rationalize as adults. But tell some of the younger users they suddenly can’t play anymore because “reasons” and you’re gearing up for disappointment in some.

        It’s just not an argument or a situation that seems like it’s worth it for them to use SL for a couple months exclusively. There’s other stuff to do in the summer, especially if one is being an active participant in that kid’s time like they would need to with this anyway. Most things are open again now (free and not free), even if you need a mask in some situations. And if the excuse is “well parents need to work”, then the kid isn’t being monitored and this is all moot anyway.

      • Children between the ages of 13-17 are already allowed access to SL. They are restricted to General areas. It’s been that way since they closed the teen grid. There is also a section in the ToS concerning children under 13.

        As a parent, it’s my responsibility to monitor my child’s online activity which I did when my son was young. If he were enrolled in this camp, he would be accessing it on my terms. Ya know, parenting.

      • I would love to see the parent that trusts that their teenage child will stick to General rated areas when they’re not actively watching. The last time I saw a parent try this, the kid got bored because “mom is always there” and they couldn’t go anywhere “fun”.

        As for the camp itself, there’s nothing wrong with it other than it either giving the kids a game they can’t keep playing after camp (if they’re under 13), or now presenting the above stated issue if they want to continue using SL even on a non-camp account.

      • At this point, they should just reboot teen grid.

        But this time, have fully background checked volunteers policing it instead of the lindens.

        I was there on teen grid before I turned 18 and went to the “main grid”, if they bother to reboot it they need to implement their anti-copybot shit onto the teen grid, because I remember people copybotting stuff from the main grid onto the teen grid.

        Their other fuck up is when LL allowed the Lindens to basically abandon it to the wasteland and it was left up to the older teens on the grid to police shit and report copybot / adult content and it was only months after I turned 18 that the teen grid was shut down because of lack of LL actually policing their own teen grid.

      • agreed. i would never have a kid hang out in SL (even supervised). it’s way too hyper-sexual and full of genuine freaks (if we’re going by the weekly content on this site alone). even if the kid is supervised, eventually, they’re definitely going to do a horrifying google, tumblr or flickr search and that’s not a conversation parents really want to have with a 14 year old kid.

        i would simply make my kid play an actual game and one that’s made for their age group like the genshin impact, fortnite, or roblox. SL (to me at least) is a glorified shopping simulator/chat program and i don’t see any point in trying to market it to kids.

        if LL wanted to make a kid-friendly game, just create a teen offshoot and rebrand it as something else. like third life or something. i dunno.

    • “Stop trying to determine a creator’s worth by your stinginess.”

      yes forever to that

  33. #3- Mr. Dunglike hits on anything that moves, everyone knows this by now. He tried to sleep with with this friend of mine, when that didn’t work he got the other moderators at Breathe to coerce her. Backfired, the dude was fired. Fun factoid, he kept pressuring this woman to f00k him, and they did, anyhoo, it was really another dude (not saying anything is wrong with this, but dung didn’t know). Glad they got rid of him, everyone can finally take a long awaited “breath.”😅😅😂😅😅

    • This is old news, fartlike bans the women that won’t sleep with him and then turns around and fucks the owner of the club. That is how he gets away with it every time. If you think the owner of Spa is going to listen to you, I’m afraid you are shoveling shit against the tide. Sorry. There are other clubs that won’t tolerate that.

      • Geeez, i was thinking of joining, but this type of stuff gives me the creeps, forget about it now, i will go back to Lusthouse instead

    • I remember i banged this dude when i was using an female avi, lolololol
      he even let me stick my finger is his butt loooooooool

      • Nothing wrong with godlike wanting to ride the hershey highway, just don’t ban people because they aren’t going down the same road as you. Easy-peasy!

  35. 3—- Mr. Dunglike hits on anything that moves, everyone knows this by now. He tried to sexxXX with with this friend of mine, when that didn’t work he got the other moderators at Breathe to coerce her. Backfired, the dude was fired. Fun factoid, he kept pressuring this “woman,” to f00k him at Breathe, and they did, anyhoo, turns out it was really another dude. Glad they got rid of him, everyone can finally take a long awaited “breath.” 😅😆😃😂😅😆

  36. #16 Always sketchy when sim owners share their drama logs to prove themselves ”wronged”, but then it’s full of talking shit about players before sim opens. A good telling that there will be repeats of this type of behavior. If they talk about them, who else do they hate? Surprised that We <3 RP admin is involved in this.

  37. 16- Legends of Druma? Sounds like a failed attempt at making Waterdeep DnD sims fetch.

    12- So True HD Heads are terrible.. better off sticking to the old bento heads.

    20 – I am completely unbothered because those aren’t Afrocentric dreads, they look more eurocentric. Those dreads are for people with Type 2A to 3A hair. If I want Afrocentric dreads I go to Camo and Unorthodox because they cater to a more Afrocentric culture. Type 4C hair doesn’t look like Doux dreads on Afrocentric people with type 4c hair.

    Just type in google search for Hair type Charts. You’ll understand. For example

    Dreads on white womens hair with 2A hair
    https://gyazo.com/4e49d6a828f9e694b6318fb2c886bc1a

    Dread on black womens with 4c hair
    https://gyazo.com/dd88cf87daaeeca53df346c514348f64

    Dreads on Mixed Race women’s hair 3A hair
    https://gyazo.com/2f91a8ca69662aef51521b821b5a18a9

    • funny you should mention unorthodox, beautiful hair , but my god, why so expensive

      • Expensive but worth it if you are looking for a more Afrocentric look. There are other stores that cater to Afrocentric hair. But Doux isn’t really one of them. They cater to women with loose curls 2A to 3A hair. Not saying black women can’t have loose curls.. because Ethiopians are black. However, for most black women who have 4c hair.. Camo has always been the spot for afrocentric hair

      • Because no one else is doing what they’re doing, frankly, they just have no competition so they can charge outrageously. However, some of that hair has absolutely insane complexity numbers, so you should reeeeally demo carefully before you buy.

    • ALL BLACK PEOPLE DONT HAVE 4C HAIR! ALL MIXED PEOPLE DONT HAVE 3A HAIR! If you’re ACTUALLY into hair typing THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS or did you do a quick search for terms and slap them on here just to put people’s hair types under ONE category? If a black person has 3A hair… based on your logic… if they get dreads… it will be eurocentric regardless of them being black. What sense does that make? You honestly don’t know what you’re talking about and anyone who understands black hair (me, for example) will call you out on your bullshit. You can plug for those brands without spreading false information. Thanks

      • Said beautifully. That person sounded slow af lmaoooo. Flawed ass logic, if you can even call it that. The fact that this person tried to talk so eloquently (and incorrectly) about hair types while simultaneously telling us to ‘google it’… sounds like they’re the ones in need of research concerning locs, considering that they don’t have the logic to understand that different races of people can have different hair types, and, as you said specifically, not all black people have type 4C hair. This person was just loud AND wrong. Embarrassing.

        Don’t even break your back trying to get these people to understand because the fact of the matter is that the primary demographic of this comment section is won’t care to and will ignore the all the facts you just presented, only to further spew their ignorance. You’re making TOO much sense for them.

    • If non black people wanna wear that hair, no one can really stop you and you’re free to do so, but let’s not spread false info and flawed logic just because you wanna mentally justify being non black and wearing them. Thanks!

  38. VS is a perfect reflection of what is wrong with SL. Mentally unstable people do mentally unstable things and rant about each other. Keep the toxic wheel spinning that feeds you. People lie to you, abuse your trust, abuse your genuine feelings? Move on. People who do that carry a big burden on their own and “revenge” isn’t even needed.

    Use that negative energy as an engine to do good things for yourself, others or to just grow. Exposing people here does NOTHING. Toxic creator bashing could be turned into constructive discussion and exchange.

    Instead you are all here bashing each other spinning the toxic wheel. Accomplishing nothing. Going no where.

    • says the person here, making a comment bashing everyone for bashing people. Like no one said you had to be here reading it. So why don’t you take your own advice. Kay bye Felicia

    • Sorry about your unrealistically rosy outlook, but people who victimize others aren’t always victims themselves. Sometimes they’re just shitty people, who need to be exposed for their actions. People who aren’t actually doing anything wrong don’t have much to worry about, because the people who know them know better. Only the guilty are worried. I’m sure it gets expensive, meshing out alts.

      • I’m sure there are some things that need to be exposed but since nobody is fact checking anything in here the expositions are more often than not just salty rants, answered with more salty counter rants in the comments.

  39. #39 there’s no point in unsubscribing,their going to add you back and add you to wip event and 2nd chances event..I’ve never even been to any of their events but yet they have me subscribed and I muted the owners but for some reason every like 3 weeks they some how get off my mute list and start spamming me again..it’s fucking retarded

  40. Fucking hell, shut up with the mesh head/body superiority shit, please. Who cares? Why does it matter?! If you want to wear Genus, wear Genus. If someone wants to to wear Lelutka, then good for them, wear Lelutka! Who gives a flying fuck if someone wants to wear Kupra, Legacy, Maitreya, slink, hell or Sking?! Its one thing to give an opinion, but I swear, some of y’all act like someone held a gun to your head and tried to force you to wear something. If you’re happy with your avatar, leave it at that and let others be happy with theirs.

    • Those aren’t Afrocentric dreads. They look more eurocentric. If you have type 4c hair which a lot of Africans and African Americans have. You would know those aren’t Afrocentric. Now if you see them wearing Camo or unorthodox dreads and they know they do not have type 4c hair then you can call them out. For example

      Dreads on white womens hair
      https://gyazo.com/4e49d6a828f9e694b6318fb2c886bc1a

      Dreads on black womens with 4c hair
      https://gyazo.com/dd88cf87daaeeca53df346c514348f64

      Dreads on Mixed Race women’s hair
      https://gyazo.com/2f91a8ca69662aef51521b821b5a18a9

      • honestly, why you calling anyone out? you don’t OWN hair styles. No matter what your race is. Like jesus fuck. IT’S HAIR! People should be able to wear their own fucking hair in what ever style they want. So long as they’re not trying to then be racist about it saying ” Hahah, look guys, i’m black!” Like, this is why I find most peoples shit fucking dumb! People try to put claims on things that they fucking shouldn’t/can’t put claims on.

      • Us Afrocentric people don’t call them dreads. They’re Locs. Nothing else you said after that matters.

      • Of course, it wouldn’t matter to you.. because you’re ignorant and don’t know anything about hair type. dreads/locs.. the same thing.. the only difference is the hair types that have them.

      • You commented this on another thread and it still sounds just as stupid lmfao. Different races of people can have different hair types. A black person with type 2 hair wouldn’t qualify as being ‘Eurocentric’ just because of their hair type. Not all black people have 4c hair. The logic in your comment frankly does not exist. Cute attempt though.

  42. 15 – First, I raise my glass to you for the attention you paid in creating that card. It looks like a still shot from the movie with no seams. Second, as a SL DJ, I laughed. I don’t DJ at clubs anymore, and that effect is part of why. DJing for themed sims is a far different space. I would not trade it for anything.

  43. #26 Kind of reminds me of that situation with that Oli London guy.. The one who came out as “transracial” or some shit. I don’t get how someone can try so hard to be Asian while being white it honestly makes no sense why you would want to because in your mind you know 100% for sure it’s going to annoy a lot of people.. I mean it’s different when it’s on the internet because you’re not getting surgery and shit but still..

  44. #26 Those asians in sl are not real asians, i feel shamefull that these Obsessed people are so obsessed with asians, so now the REAL asians stay at there home to be fear for being obessed by these weebs called Second Life residents

    • Are you actually dense? Kimmy is asian. What are you trying to say?

      • Kimmy is an asian not living in asia “fighting” for the “representation” of asian users that are not even users of SL. She’s just ridiculous.

      • Lol so you haveee you live in Asia for your opinions to be validated. Gotcha! I don’t know how yall has that mentality. Pathetic.

    • There are alot of people posing as another race until you get to know them and find out they are the total opposite of their avatar’s race appearance. You got

      White people posing at black
      Black posing as a white
      White and black people posing as south Asians
      White and black people posing as east asians

      • This is silly, in SL you should be able to be whatever you want, whenever you want… People aren’t creating their avatars to offend anyone, they are being creative with their inworld identities. Whether it’s white, black, asian, a mix, a cat, an elephant, a mythical creature… whatever tf you want.

    • If you’re all so worried about avatar’s ‘appropriating’ Asian style and fashion then take off your overly exaggerated European eyes on your Anime/Hentai/Cartoon characters you love so much and use your own and be done with your own hypocrisy if we’re actually going to be THAT ridiculous about a fashion statement in a game.

  45. #44 ETHAN BANANA… YET ANOTHER DUMB FUCK WITH A STORE BOUGHT LAST NAME, FKN NOOB. OH LOOK FACEAPP PROFILE PIC, HOW ORIGINAL. LOSER BASIC BITCHBOY

  46. #12 HEY STUPID! BOM IS BETTER THAN APPLIERS LITERALLY IN EVERY WAY, EDUCATE YOURSELF YOU DUMB FUCK

  47. #50 Shut the fuck up you’re only complaining because your talentless ass can’t make shit. She can put as whatever price she wants it took hours,weeks to make this she even made it for several bodies even kupra and you’re stupid ass wants to complain. You want something like this? Fucking make it yourself.

    • Bitch you’re delusional. Nobody is paying mesh head price for a PAIR OF SHOES

      • Not delusional just thinking about this logically. Sorry you’re butthurt about what I said.

      • I fail to see how this is a logical way of thinking. You clearly don’t know how things work when it comes to creating. I hand draw my own tattoos and eye textures which takes a shitload of time and effort yet I know not to sell them in a fat pack for 5k unless I just really want to not make a single sale. Think of it this way, Would you rather have 5k from one purchase or over 5k from multiple purchases?

      • You’re an idiot. And the replies to you as well as the dislikes you’re getting prove it.. You say women spend much more at events but that’s because we’re buying items from many different creators. Literally reread what you’re typing. You make zero sense.. Clearly you’re a man, why are you even including yourself in this topic? Who are you to say how much women spend in SL and on what lmao

    • I mean yeah they can set whatever price they want, however that price is insane, those are fucking shoes, not only that,but you can get the same style in a fatpack for WAAAAAAAAY cheaper. Like the one said, no one is gonna pay mesh head prices for fucking shoes. Like seriously.

    • lmao, bitch, trust me, i can make shit like that hoe. yeah, it takes effort, it takes time rigging for each body, but unless you braindead mfer think that selling that shit for over 5k is ok (which btw youll get a fucking mesh head for it which requires quite a bit more work and expertise), you should be the one outta here.

      • Then go ahead and prove me wrong. Make those shoes for less, including all bodies in the same time period it took her. And oh please you think 5k is a lot? Most women in second life spend so much more on clothes and hair they only wear once.

      • They can make the price as high as they want but They’re not doing themselves any favors for all of that hard work they put in. Theyre begging to not make any sales off of the fat pack at least. It would be one thing if these were the only type of style on the grid but you can find similar at a much cheaper price with a quick marketplace search.

        And the reason why people are more likely to spend 5k on a head is Because Mesh heads are worth that much because they have multiple functions and can be used for years. Same with bodies. A fatpack of shoes that consist of one style and multiple colors is not. That’s what the OP and many others are trying to point out.

    • Bet. Go ahead and buy them then and don’t you dare say a peep when you stumble across the dozens of other cheaper versions on the marketplace.

  48. 3- LMAAOOOO this thristy fuck is doing it again? omg lolol 👌😂typical

    44- he is a cool guy, wtf? soem peeps like to start sheit for no reason nuch of coward bicheees

  49. #48 is a hardcore crazy. She will cry racism and persecution whenever she does not get what she wants.

  50. #15 – Considering most DJs in SL worth their salt actually go out, find music, put sets together that flow well, take requests, and actually do a lot to entertain, I think your post is way off base.

    Which tells me that the OP is one of several possible types. 1) Someone who’s jaded by having gone to events done by less than stellar DJs. 2) Someone who thinks they’re hot shit from being a party DJ or something else in RL, when it’s the same crap in a different setting. 3) someone who just doesn’t understand the effort that goes into any form of entertainment in or out of SL, or 4) a live DJ in SL who thinks that DJ’s playing music from others is somehow different than remixing and sampling stuff, when it’s all forms of entertainment.

  51. 25- Yet another picture of a “friend” posting a friend like i saw last week. Who are you? Expose who you are, because clearly you are on their friend list, so you backstabbing them?? fake friend?? These two are wonderful people and super nice. who cares if they flirt . single life . you sound jealous

    • Those bland ass uwu clones probably posted themselves for attention. Ffs that look is so damn tired.

  52. #26 I think this head shape is based on a real life model named tsunaina known for being beautiful in an unusual way. IMO “strange look” just means “unconventional beauty.”

  53. #46 about time someone called that disgusting age playing chubby war pig out. She been age playing and denying it forever. She def spreads her fat legs for every penis in her radar. Silly Jen .. hope your pedo ring at ehub crashes and burns soon!

    • Lol @ chubby war pig. Now I got Ozzie Osbourne in my head 😂😂😂

  55. #8 – Whoever you are that felt compelled to write this. Your facts are pretty skewed, and as pathetically written as it gets. Hide behind your keyboard and embellish away, what you think you may have been doing with this post has backfired. Everyone that knows me knows I have rarely used Discord voice since last November, for personal reasons. When I do occasionally use Discord voice for very brief moments it certainly isn’t “building up side hoes” and usually people are surprised when I do unmute my mic. Also, my RL schedule does not allow me the time to be a small player, let alone a “huge player” cheating on Artie daily, nor do I want to be either one of those. I am completely happy with Artie, and one of the reasons I love her? She is FAR from fragile, she will chew you up and spit you out, don’t let her friendly and good natured spirit fool you, cross her and you will see. THE BEST PART? Artie and I have each others passwords, so we have complete transparency. We also know when each other has logged on and off, all part of lessons learned in almost 2 years of being together. Your post seems designed to do damage to a girl that you are calling a “good woman” and making it sound like you know us. Our RL together is solid and gaining momentum as we speak, even as we sit here discussing this garbage. If you are someone rejected by either one of us at some point? Sorry, you were rejected by us for the simple fact we will not be broken by a person, we can only break ourselves on our terms. We feel bad for you, and hope you find your happiness at some point. If it made you feel like you had power writing this, good for you, you typed what could have been a damaging message (to a weaker couple) on a SL secrets message board, your life is now complete. And by the way, thank you for the compliments on my writing technique, I have been busting my ass at night after work for the past 4 years earning my bachelors degree, nice to know all of those advanced writing classes have paid off! (This was approved by Artie before I hit send, she isn’t in tears, she is eating ice cream and laughing).

    • #8 Hi everyone! Artie Rumble here. I’d like to take a moment to thank all of those who contacted me concerned about this post. Let me publicly provide some insight. 

      Unfortunately, this past week Bad and I cut ties with an RP Sim management team we still care for as a result of one of their managers showing up at our private off-sim skybox without explanation. This resulted in a heated exchange between that manager and I, she refused to disclose what she was doing there and we made the choice to drop it and just walk away. I suspect this post is a direct attempt to create chaos between Bad and I for calling her out. Timing is just SUS! 

      This post makes several references to actions I know to be false. Bad and I are good, I appreciate your concerns and it was great to hear from those I had lost contact with.

      I wish you all a wonderful rest of your week, do amazing things, and remember to take time away from SL to remind yourselves what truly matters in your lives. We thank you for the good vibes we received! ❤

      • You were both from Fox Hollow, moderators. The female managers are: Taissa, Arabella, Mayze, Jihyun, Davina. If it would be a guessing game then I would choose Jihyun. She would be someone that can cause a scandal for her own benefit.

      • Yup, that be my guess too and Davina left Fox Hollow. Thirsty for tea? Here is the DM Artie sent to her friends, leaving Fox Hollow made Artie sad.

        “Hello FH Friends,

        It is with deep sadness Bad and I inform you we have decided to resign our positions as Fox Hollow Moderators effective immediately. The reason for our decision is included here, if you have any questions or concerns please reach out directly to either one of us.

        Bad and I own properties off-sim, they are personal properties that are not in a public search or used for any commercial means. Yesterday, I checked the security orb log to one of our Skyboxes located about 900 meters above one of our properties. The log showed two Fox Hollow Managers showed up to our private skybox. These managers were not invited by either of us and had no business reason to be at this location. After being ejected by the orb, one of those managers returned immediately and was ejected a second time. I reached out to this manager to ask what her purpose was. She provided two explanations that did not align with the facts. When pressed for an answer as to why she was there, she made the claim I was acting suspicious and wanted to know what WE are hiding instead of indicating what her purpose was to be in our private off-sim Skybox.

        Unfortunately, this manager has shown she does not meet our expectations of leadership in her inability to be truthful and transparent. As a result, we no longer feel that the current leadership of Fox Hollow is one we want to be a part of. This is not a reflection of Fox Hollow as a whole. But these sole actions of a very prominent department manager who is increasingly expanding her reach into other departments Bad and I work in. Her accusations of us trying to HIDE something when questioned WHY she was at our private off sim skybox were beyond our tolerance line.

        Here are answers to questions you may have:
         
        Is this skybox accessible by any other means than a teleport or landmark? It is not. 

        Is this skybox landmarked in our profiles or listed in a public search? It is not

        How did the manager get there? The manager showed me her teleport history with the coordinates where she teleported into. Those coordinates align with a space I once shared with the managers’ RP sister while working in event planning last May. It is unclear how this manager came to have that landmark or coordinates and she refused to disclose the source. 

        Could they have been sailing through the land? The orb in the skybox does not monitor land level activity. It is set to 96 meters of the skybox only. The manager also shared teleport history contradicting her original claim she stumbled on our land while sailing towards Blake sea. 

        What did the other manager have to say? He indicates he had nothing to do with it and was simply teleported in by the first manager. 

        What is in this skybox? Recently I helped in the creation of a training facility for JCSO in Fox Hollow. Bad liked it and asked if for father’s day I would create a personal range for his use. I built my husband his personal Pew Pew Park. 

        I’d like to take a moment to thank Alice and Tai for the opportunity to be a part of your team.  Also, in my time with FH I worked under Bells, Mayze, and Jacob and I would like to extend my gratitude for your excellent guidance and leadership. We are not rage-quitting and we do hope to part with the clear note our concerns revolve solely on this one Manager and nothing else.

        We will close with this, If any member of management or higher had any concern about our off-sim activites on our properties please feel free to reach out and speak with us if your concerns remain.

        Respectfully,

        Bad and Artie Rumble.”

      • My bad! I didn’t realize Davina left, but even after your message, I feel it is indeed Jihyun. She LOVES to get in a specific situation where she isn’t right but would create a huge scandal and manipulate in a way for her to be successful.

        From their message that they sent, that manager (assuming is Jihyun) wanted to stalk on you two, and in her paranoid mind, she thought you would make a new RP Sim, stabbing Taissa and make it like it’s your fault. I believe Taissa shouldn’t accept this situation and she shouldn’t let you go.

        If indeed is Jihyun, then Fox Hollow gained a loss because Artie, comparing to Jhyiun had more implications in RP aspects than Jhyiun. Shameful…

      • I don’t even know you, but your intro sentence was the best I’ve seen so far. You have my vote for whatever drama you got dragged into. Your post was a bit too long, but the first two sentences, were like a😅😆😂😜 door to door salesman.

  56. #30. Nobody cares about your Sr. Citizens’ home. We are all tired of you all posting about yourselves just to get extra attention for your failure of a sim.

    • No don’t discourage them, I want to see what high effort photoshops they post next, they’re the highlight of my week

  57. #17 Being a member of each I cannot even comprehend and assimilate the two. Ely is the place to be, take photographs, boat, listen to THE best music in SL, and find truly great friends. The other is quite literally a Mexican stand-off with no local chat, offering little more than 99% of any sex sim on the grid. Before you call me out I was a Breathe member when it was cool and turned into the joke before Maui has become, minus the tariffs.

  58. Another week, another mesh head discussion. It’s still fuck Genus and whoever suggests Catwa heads… just dismiss yourself completely

  59. man, kinda uninteresting personal drama today huh. where’s all the pizazz. where’s all the truly insane stuff. why has this youtube channel self-promo’d on like the last 5 weeks. the spark is fading

    anyone wanna start a fight or something

  60. #41 Its pretty obvious it is not 2 for 50L. That is just the ad pics showing diff colors and 2 diff textures that are offered. Stoic isn’t the only person who does ads like this so not sure why you thought it was 2 for 50L?

    • Uh, their point was that you can only put 2 items in 50L Friday per the event rules, meaning if your chosen item comes in that many colors you have to pick 2 only to discount. Not sure how you thought they meant 2 for 50Ls, they just wondered why Stoic was allowed to break the rules.

  61. 42 I 100% agree. The upper eyelids on lelutka bother me too. To even start to see them more closed you have to reach into the 70 range where on catwa it was 20s. I use lelutka but only because the best catwa head catya never got a 2.0 at least with hd pro. It was the only head with my look. A nice nose and good eyes. Even the brow range was nicer and you could get delicate looks without squeezing the mesh like on genus or lelutka or having that ugly button nose lelutka has. If you pick the sharp lelutka noses you get a bump. Some people do have sharp but small features but lelutka or genus never got that. Genus rips models and lelutka is generic with an ugly pretty look. Yes I use lelutka as I said but I don’t really feel any of the heads are me.

      • GOOGLE “BASIC SL LOSER BITCH” YOU GET A GIRL IN CATWA CATYA OR LONA WITH GLAM AFFAIR SKIN SO THEY CAN USE THE TONES BUILT IN THE SHIT MAITREYA HUD BOTH WEARING THE NEWEST OUTFIT AT BLUEBERRY AND COMPLAIN ON THE FIRST OF THE MONTH WHEN THEIR GROUP GIFT AT SENIHA ISNT READY ON TIME LOL

      • Lmao imagine still using a Catwa Catya head in 2021, even worse.. thinking it’s the best head. My God! 🤒

      • Yup. When you see a brand new account in a Catya head, you know that is someone on her newest slut alt, because no one with an actual new account would dig that far back for a head- just basic bitches who don’t know how to use anything else.

      • I know, it’s hilarious; “the only one with my look” meaning completely generic face with DSLs 😂 yes girl, most of the grid had “your look” at one point

    • LOL where do I even start. The median measurement for any of those facial feature sliders is 50, meaning that 20s is a more extreme change than 70s, although frankly your complaint doesn’t really make any sense- the amount of eyelid you can potentially have is built into the mesh, so that’s why you demo. Choose a head with a monolid like Ceylon or Strong Face 002 and you’re gonna certainly have issues seeing a creased eyelid, because duh. Sliders can only do so much; all they do is stretch or contract the mesh you chose and the underlying shape is always going to be there.

      Also, most Lelutka heads actually do not have button noses, as much as people who don’t understand how to choose a mesh try to fake it with skins and shadow overlays. Probably the same people who think the details in their skin texture make up for having a body with almost no details in the mesh- low graphics users who don’t understand the depth people who have advanced lighting on see, and wouldn’t see it anyway because they live in flat boring light like CalWL. If shadows are too much for your PC, you really have no idea what anything actually looks like- like the lumpy, jagged mess people saw in your Catya. Guys with their dicks in their hands are really not the best place to seek feedback on your look, FYI. They’re not looking at your face unless their dick is in it.

      The rest of your dumbfuck comment is just lies and salt; if Genus really stole their heads they probably wouldn’t have won against their DMCA, so you could at least shut the fuck up about that. The idea of someone who stans Catya talking about a creator who offers 10- and soon, 14- fully updated heads being “generic” is actually very funny, and is probably the best part of your wall of verbal diarrhea.

      • Again, you write the best posts. That being said, the same people bitching about mesh heads and bodies are the exact same people who stated they would NEVER ever buy one because it would ruin their “unique,” looks (meanwhile their face looked like Minecraft). They even shamed the few people who were the first to wear them, stating they all looked generic. Now look at the exact same people bitching because they are confronted with having to upgrade. Cleary it’s not about $$$ with these people because you always see them wearing the worst laggy items known to SL. I’ll say it again, Genus was great when it first came out, now it’s VERY dated. Catwa, what is there to talk about, it looks like crap. Maybe one day Catwa will release a head worth demoing. And maybe, just maybe pigs can fly. Keep up the amazing posts, cheers!

      • If she asked me for advice, I’d tell her to quit making heads and just make animations- fucktons of them. That was one complaint I never had when I used Catwa; the animations were as perfect as you can get. It wasn’t cheap to get them all, but once you had them, the way the eyes and mouth were separated with the save slots for personalized combos made them very versatile. She should just make animations for all different heads. And maybe try to get back into hair, because she had some cute stuff in the early Play-doh mesh days.

    • Catwa isn’t good and catya is what those Basic-blondes in those biker clubs and daddy dom trash sim look like, clones. I’d take a Lelutka Evo/Evox anyday.

  63. #19 – Any creator who makes colours solely for one gender are so behind in the times. Wonder why they do all this extra work solely to maintain the stereotype that pink is for girls and brash colours are for men.

    #36 – Lmfao. No Sim is safe from this shit. No one on Second Life can actually roleplay that visits these ‘Sims’. Accept it, move on, and find people to roleplay with that are not on a Sim.

    • well foc was pretty known for bullying, I think most just want to make sure no one forgets and warn them not to visit to save them from the drama that is that or well was that sim, but they are rebranding. SO I suspect to see their rebranded version on here next. Plus you should accept that people are gonna post about sims on here, so accept it and move on.

      • EC is crazy, the owners there are nuts. Like I get people put money into their sims, but ec owners are just hella wacky. Like you could follow the rules and still be banned if you don’t kiss the owners asses there.

  64. #31
    Isn’t he that wrestler guy in UWF or UFW, whatever they are called?
    I heard some strange stories when I used to hang out at IYC about him and some girl.

    Wonder what the second half of this post is about, racist people and venues?

    • I asked a question, explained a short thing of weird stories and I get up and down votes. But no answers. That’s confusing and not helpful

      • IYC is actually well known for the amount of racist people there as well as the amount of disrespectful people around. As for racist people/venues. I think it was one of the wrestler feds on SL, can’t remember which one, but one of them! that recently did a temp shut down to revamp pretty much EVERYTHING due to a racist comment someone had said and it had hit them HARD. So It might be that? Not 100%

      • I’m betting the comment wasn’t anything extreme, people tend to way over react on things. I’ve been called racist for something about my own race and went psychotic over it. But who knows, the word racist gets throwin around like a fashion statement

      • Fucking snowflake generation what yer expect lol. Not commenting on the way it was handled at UFW but as for IYC there not a known racist venue .. its an old n large community of course there going to end up with some cunts. but they relay do there best to ban these people. just recently fired a manager caught being a racist knob because its not tolerated. As for Alex forever known about that underage girl etc it was also what iyc band him for Endless trail of drama that knob all for his own selfish ambition

      • There is literal proof of her being of legal age when they met. You guys really love starting damaging rumors. She lied about her age. She said she was in her 20s when she wasn’t. But there is literal proof tracking back to her being of legal age when they met.

        Get the fuck over yourselves.

      • Sorry buddie.. NOT the ones who bought it up.. goes to show just how many know who you are. i just came in to defend IYC because i hate when a twat blames a whole community over another twats actions.. Anyways i’ll let you get back to being a cunt Defending your own ass. busy busy busy

      • You must think i’m him rofl okay Blazey, nice try. I’m not who you think but nice try. Go back to making your bad built avatars and worry more about you and yours

      • You forgot your punctuation at the end of the word grammar.

      • IYC is literally all filled with fucking twats. The fucking owners are nothing more than egotistical fucking half-wits who don’t care much about their staff or even patrons. 😂 Given the fact that over half my friends are banned from there just because of personal bans and not from breaking rules. But the same could be said for pounce and most other fucking clubs nowadays on SL. The owners are usually full of themselves and fucking dumb ass’s who get an ego too big for their pants to hold.

      • Generally, when I worked at IYC, the rule for banning wasn’t strict. You really had to do a LOT to get yourself banned. If your fiends are banned, you might want to look at your friends and wonder what’s wrong with them. But listening to how you rant on, I can fully understand why your friends are banned, you hang otu with them. You cause your own mess and blame others. My ban list is large for my store as well as it was for my small event club venue for people like yourself who think they should run over everyone when they please.

      • You well and truly have to go out of your fucking way to get banned. The truest cunts get punted because they are obvious but there are some who ride the line intentionally and they get given way more rope to the point it can take forever. Frankly if someone got outright banned then they are a very special kind of piece of shit. I know security has to actually justify their bans and unless its something solid its sometimes overturned. Makes me want to teabag a dull blender than listen to the cunts shittalking an owner who pays out the nose just so people can have a place to go where drama isn’t welcome. Then the fucking child molesting racist self projecting insecure haters trash and shit talk it and in the same breath turn around and complain how theres nowhere to go. If you’re going to shit where you eat fine and well enough but I’ll be over here hoping you choke on it.

      • also a racist got yeeted because of being racist as soon as it was realized. That shit has never been tolerated at IYC and it doesn’t matter who the hell you are. Anyone who says otherwise is just stirring shit

      • lol think you gave yourself away saying “😂 Given the fact that over half my friends are banned” yer obviously one of these little drama groups or just a bunch of tosses who deserved it

      • IYC is without a doubt one of the furry cancer venues. It’s gross. The staff is gross. They’re known for being racist and bigots with horrid looking avatars so this sounds about right lmao 🤣

      • Sounds like you are just mad you were banned because you are the actual cancer

      • Leo, please worry more about learning how to spell and less about involving yourself in VS drama. Grammar first, gossip second. You can do it little guy!!!

      • Oh Yawnns scraping bottom of the barrel kinda insults. Look idiot. you and Alex and the rest of yer little bum chums need to understand the SOONER you stop LIEINGG to one another about every little thing trying to maintain the image of Alex fake new lifestyle in SL. and stop involving others and community’s and community owners and anything else you can find to try divert the attention or blame to……The sooner we will never have to respond in defence and you will never hear from any of us or get the attention of the community in a aggressive form.. Its that simple.. no one gives a fuck over here What Alex did or dose.. no one gives a shit about him trying to be who he is now with his new little groupies who wouldn’t know any better. We only care the moment you try pass blame or involve any of us in his Stupid excuse of a life

      • Telling someone to be less involved in VS drama yet, here you are and no one cares about how you type

      • Don’t know about that other stuff, but wouldn’t surprise me if the racist venue they support is Sylvania Square. The owner there preaches about how evil white people are while saying you shouldn’t ever comment on people’s skin color, then in the same breath goes on about “poor southern white trailer trash.”

      • Hi what the fuck are you on? Like truly when have those words ever been spoken by anyone at Sylvania? But yes please keep spreading lies.

    • Yes, he is the fur from UFW & VWE. He is known as a pedo, constantly tries to talk you to death while saying things like “I am always IC” . He is a total screw case. Actually he fits right in with both of the feds mentioned. Fur community has a ton of fake individuals in UFW. A world champion known to many as Wrex Ocelot, The Tomahawk guy who supposedly destroyed his own fed due to unfortunate circumstances, but he came right back to wrestling. At least this time he is not hiding his identity. Then we have Alyx, and his little VWE stunt happening tomorrow at the beach brawl sim. Cameron has finally found that perfect group of idiots to follow his way. Cody Houley vs Alyx, a match made in “heaven”. There are so many things we can discuss about both of these Men, but let’s just allow that to crumble so we can move on to Tomahawk vs Houley, which will feature Night, Wrex Ocelot, Morgan Jones, ect. Basically people that use each other. It’s very well known that none of the mentioned names have a real liking for each other. I mean ask The Tomahawk himself, he has a few alts, but maybe he will be upfront about his dislike of the the VWE fed, but then again who knows. If VWE has a legitimate polyamorous group recently made at Cameron’s wedding, anything is possible.

      • I’m gonna sprinkle a little bit of salt here about this furry, but LETS TALK MORE ABOUT VWE!!!

        Isn’t this the same guy who was obsessed for months about the same wrestling place? We’re tired of hearing the same old shit. OK you are a disgruntled “Rasslor” and got fired and now your only way to cope is to say shit about other “Rasslors” and “WWE!”. This is more than just being obsessive, This is pure Stalking now.

        As for the fur, stop hiding shit and show us some PROOF! Y’all wanna spread RUMORS but can’t back shit up without PROOF. Where’s the LOGS? Where’s the PICS?

      • Logs aren’t proof, those can be easily faked. Discord as well, easy to cut/paste logs together if you’re pro at photoshop

  65. #3 I have to say, I’ve been hearing about this problem for a few months now. Not sure if this guy, Godlike, still works at Breathe Spa, as I’ve not seen him recently. At least two women have told me this on separate occasions, neither knowing each other. Wonder why this is allowed to happen at a place that you have to pay to join that is not all that cheap. Both women have said they aren’t going back until he is dealt with. I don’t think they should hold their breath. Rarely do owners listen if their mods are their friends.

    • It’s funny because I met him somewhere else and while he did hit on me, it was just normal, non-pushy, unremarkable flirting. Too timid to interest me, but also completely inoffensive. He must be power tripping when he has his mod hat on and nothing else; sounds like a coward to me.

      • Yup, from my experience he starts docile enough… but then he becomes a insensitive jerk. ugh, no way im joining this Spa with a mod like him

  67. 20) Uh… if you were gonna try to prove a point or make anyone mad with that hairstyle, you could’ve used an avi that’s actually remotely attractive in any regard. You’re not making any noise with that head/neck ratio and that Catwa looking ass head. And that brings me to my second point…

    42) Sounds like you have the same brain capacity as whoever posted 20. If you can’t get eyes, ESPECIALLY the Lelutka eyes, to move right, that is definitely user error. To be quite frank, Catwa is at the bottom of the head game right now in terms of quality when compared to Genus and Lelutka. Only a FEW people manage to make Catwa actually look good or even remotely realistic. And most of those people are males. Cartoony ass heads. The fact that Genus hasn’t updated in well over a year and STILL looks better than even Catwa’s most recent heads… how embarrassing. Maybe learn how to use a hud.

  68. #2 PERIOD. Because why they so angry at us Lelu users? 😂😂
    #4 Idk hun, change is good. Cant put too much pressure on these creators now~
    #12 LMAOOO Catwa is obsolete has a whole. The HDPro heads are just expensive, shiny versions of the ugly classic heads. And nobody is going back to the Catwa Classic heads, yuck. You might as well rock a classic avi from head to toe 😂 Stop being a granny and let go of those soggy appliers. BOM rocks!
    #20 Coming from a black woman, you look great hun!
    #50 Over 5k lindens for a shoe fatpack? Get the fuck out of here.

  69. #1 This girl is a snake, a rare drama hoe. I know her and her trash friends from Liberty City. That was insane. They been going around fucking with people for years. She is sneaky though. She usually doesn’t get her hands dirty. She encourages her friends to start shit with people, while sitting back enjoying the drama. Then, at Liberty City, they fucked with so many people and spread nasty lies about them. “Compulsive liar” is the correct diagnosis for her. LOL The sim died eventually, and these fucktards moved to the next sim to destroy. She doesn’t follow any girl code and goes for her best friends’ men. When Monster and chicken broke up, crybaby was there to get his dick. I was told also Dominic was chicken’s ex. This girl has a thing for the men of her “supposedly” best friends. She is so cheap!

    • And did you lie? Nope dont think so !
      She is very sneaky and uses her friends to fight for her because she cant. And she wants to act like the mature one who doesnt get involved. But she does.
      She exposed some chicks nudes to some weirdo guys and laughed about it.

      Like who do you think you are Crybaby?
      When someone is about to expose you and them fucked off teeth you wanna cry so like… whats going on?

  70. Oh this week is salty!

    Mesh head complainers, cheaters, pedo’s, thieves, some love, and a whole lot of Oh my.

    Glad to see the mesh body complainers took a break this week. You almost convinced me to demo a kupra body to see what the huge a$$ fuss was about(pun intended)!

    #23 has me curious: where was this elusive #21? What week? Just curious!🤣

    • I tried kupra and I personally thought it was a shitty mesh body and theirs not alot of options cloth wise for it, atleast not in the styles I go for.

  71. Sota Beach is a Pedo hook up spot for rapist’s. New secret is out

  74. #21 has no idea what they’re talking about but go off I guess

    • The thumbs down indicate otherwise, Hawthorne is pretty toxic. :/ Just another college sex sim (the day I moved in, my downstairs neighbor was fucking in local). Just because it’s not your experience, doesn’t make the post less valid. *and in the event that you’re a sim owner/mod, you’re sitting from a biased seat. Maybe try taking the issues that have been popping up the past two weeks as constructive criticism to be more inclusive of your members?

      edit: not to say take the post verbatim, it’s coming from someone who is angry and frustrated. But, if they feel that xyz is wrong, separate that n’ address it in a positive way? idk.

      • hawthorne is the ONLY tolerable college rp sim in sl. the rp is top-notch and there are literally several planned events or classes every single day. anyone having a hard time finding stuff to do is probably only looking for one-liner, basic-bitch vanilla small-talk scenes, or trying to use the sim as a dating app. you’ve got to have decent rp skills at hawthorne, so if you’re not fitting in- spoiler: you probably suck at rp and should head back to woodcrest

      • Or y’know, you could accept that Hawthorne is a giant clique and a waste of time.

  75. Bbg ladies need to stop acting like they’re victims. Just admit you’re into childplay, already. It’s okay. Everyone needs therapy for different things.

  76. #27 Just say you can’t afford a high quality mod that requires time and effort from artist and would rather steal shaders to draw over on MS paint instead you freak.

    • you do realize that a good 60% of most of the creators on SL for skins actually started from ripping other peoples skins and editing them right? And if this is over SHADERS and not an actual stolen full on skin with little to no editing to make it original, then please. If you’re also going to complain and then attack me over it, sweetie. A good portion of most creations on SL are stolen modified work. Even the concepts of other peoples work is taken by someone else and put up with modification. Stop getting butt hurt. If aether was THAT upset, she could take it to LL with proof and the person just has to show the work they did to edit it. If it’s more than 20%, well aether…..sweetie….darling. LL won’t give a shit. And also not naming the person on twitter, ya I saw that too lovey….. Clearly states you don’t give as much of a shit as you clearly state you do.

      • Hi!! I actually didn’t mention their name because I wanted them to learn (as they are another artist in the community and I don’t believe in taking away peoples money making methods) and I figured that being barred from buying from me in the future as well as being barred from some other artists’ stores of which they don’t want stolen from was an okay punishment for the crime. If they try to commercialize the work they stole from me, I do have access to legal protection and that’s honestly a blessing afforded to all artists on any platform! If they decide to repeat offend, I’ll decide at that point whether to go to LL or seek legal advice. Thank you for your criticism!!

      • “crime”
        “legal protection”
        Oh my fucking god lmaooooo please DO try and get the law involved, it would be the funniest shit ever to see that shut down. Delusional SL artists are so wild 🤣

    • Of course, Squid always be chomping at the bit for drama! Ur addicted to this site aren’t u 😛 ur just waiting to get involved in drama being whenever u can get a life 🤣😂🤣😂

      • You’re literally on this site to spy on this persons post you absolute clown. Learn how to spell or grow some balls and sort it out with them of anon lmaoooo. The hypocrisy is real, we all love this website.

    • Do you mean overpriced and simple? If it was high quality or even complex sure I’d buy it but if it’s plain enough for someone to rip and draw over… 🤔

    • just say you’re too rich and entitled to have ever have had to get your hands dirty lmao. not everyone has a spare 100$+ and if they can do it themselves, why the fuck would they pay them to do it? if they bought the original mod and aren’t selling their custom, i don’t see a problem. also the person below is right, if they changed the texture by more than 20% with their own original assets it’s not violating LL TOS.

      • let me also add in. If someone BOUGHT the skin, and then the artist is getting pissy/upset about it, well here’s an issue sweet cheeks. You’re SELLING the skin, if someone wants to modify it to better fit them, then that’s ok. Again if it’s more than 20% change from the base skin…. you can’t really do shit, since now it’s an original custom they themselves did. AND ONCE AGAIN! Most fucking creators have done that in order to Get good. So long as they’re not re-selling or redistributing it to others, there’s no issues. And LL won’t step in on it.

      • A custom mod isn’t essential. All her shaders and such are custom made from scratch and the person even inquired about a mod beforehand, it’s a slap in the face to then take someone’s work and do it yourself. It doesn’t matter if you don’t agree with it, it’s against Aethers ToS. It’s just disrespectful she has every right to be hurt about it.

      • I love how furry artist types always seem to think that their personal “terms of service” are legally, or morally, binding.

        They’re not.

        The only TOS you can get in trouble for breaking is the Second Life TOS itself. Nobody’s going to give a shit about personal ones.

    • The meshes are so rough and jagged on old catwa heads after you’ve seen something better, but I’m guessing these people who are content with that outdated crap play on lower graphics anyway and everything just looks kinda shitty to them regardless- a guess supported by their assumption about the way others see things.

      What’s really stupid though is they actually think the Evo X UV is higher resolution, when it’s really just that they gave themselves more room for detail in the same texture resolution by moving the ears to an aux channel. In fact, Evo X heads are lower complexity than first gen Catwa, because they lack the onion layers for appliers anywhere except eyes and lips alone. Their included ears are perfect instead of looking like a chewed mess like old Catwa ears, so you don’t need to wear complex mesh ears anymore, further reducing complexity and script weight.

      Basically, literally everything they’re saying about Evo X is based in salt, ignorance, or both.

      • Also, for my times doing fantasy looks, the Evo X elf ears are everything I wanted 13 years ago and more but nobody could make it work (for obvious reasons).

    • Catwa is fucking trash. Let’s be forreal. It was cute back then when we had static mesh heads and shit, but it’s time to level up.

    • The only skimping I’m reading here is for lelutka. I do have lelutka.. For the ears.

    • Oddly enough I have a lot of the heads mentioned.

      Catwas heads weren’t bad, I had Catya. But that was it. Her animations were decent. When HD pro came out, I demo’d and what I liked about Catya was gone.

      I had Genus. I had both renditions. The pre bento heads and the bento. They weren’t bad. Finding skins sucked. And the eye thing, I shouldn’t have had to find a 3rd party hud to fix a problem everyone complained about.

      I had Lelutka Stella in the old days, hated it. Got the Bento one that she first released for my alt. Loved that but didn’t want to commit to a full change on my main. I now have Evox Avalon and its not bad. I am not fond of the animations.

      No matter what head someone gets, someone is going to find fault. There will always be die hard fans out there “Simping” for their fav creators. Personally I see it as unless there comes a time where LL breaks down and puts out its own versions that people can manipulate to their hearts content, folks are gonna bitch and moan about heads and bodies.

  78. I think it is so funny when white people think they did something when they do things that POC ask them not to. Like.. could you possibly be more disrespectful?
    Also PSA… You look musty.

  79. #28 Michael will never stop trying to stick his dick in anything with tits and ass. He will never keep a girl and he gets boring to date after a couple of months so of course they leave. He thinks spoiling a girl of the few months will make them stay. He’s a different person after the first couple of months anyways and puts on a show for social sites. He claims to love every girl he gets with but it’s not love because the minute he or they break up with him he always runs back to his ex’s and readds them or some other hoe he had in his dm’s while dating whoever.

    • Any girl that waste their time on this uk pos will just be dragged down to be another girl he used. He’s ugly as shit irl with the dick size of half a tooth brush so of course he will come in secondlife trying to fuck anything that has tits and ass because he’s still a virgin irl who can’t even see over himself to look at his little dick and the only action he gets is with his hand or from his dog. Then coming in secondlife thinking he’s hot shit because he made his avatar look like half the males in game and then thinks everyone wants to be him. Guy is the definition of a joke!

      • Funny you say that. Just the other day he was claiming someone wanted to be him. He needs to take a look around, he’s not an og. His look ain’t og. He’s a typical pale avatar who puts blood on his face, wears black, white eyes, and calls himself the devil. LOL not one person wants to be him because they can do that too. His avatar has looked the same for years and it’s boring. So many guys look way better than him.

  80. #7: Ohgosh! am I famous now too?!? Geebus, man :3 thank you! be sure to toss me a Follow! & Like my content! muah!

  81. #25 I know them both and love them. They may flirt but that doesnt make them “hos”. Just wondering what guy they rejected or what girl is jealous that submitted this?

  82. #11 Christ Almighty! This guy is really sick in the head. Does he every stop? The moment he is gone, he comes back! Definitely has some problems that need fixed upstairs.

  84. 13 – Literally don’t waste your time or feelings. Cody will never be able to commit to a relationship fully. Instead he’ll parade you around for a few weeks and then get bored and end up dumping you for ‘RL’ reasons. He’s too happy getting attention from girls on Facebook and Flickr to have a real girlfriend because being in a relationship makes him less of a shiny toy to thirsty bitches and he loves being a shiny toy to thirsty bitches. If you don’t want your feelings hurt, don’t date this extremely low self-esteemed man who worries too much about the attention he gets from strangers rather than those who actually care about him.

    • Which is precisely why him and his girl Heloise broke up. As she states “he’s not relationship material”.

      • 😅😅😂😀😂😂 you are so WOKE

      • Someone’s salty someone else is rocking that hair better than them….awwwwwwww. “White bitches” can wear what the fuck they want to wear. Move on.

      • except that the person in #20 looks like shit lmfao

  87. #10 – Thank you for the publicity! Maybe if you would have read more about the Camp, you would have understood that it was done with Linden Labs and all COPPA (Children’s Online Privacy Protection Rule) is being followed to keep the children safe. We already had two sessions last year and everything was perfect, the campers learned so much about team work, 3D modeling, equestrian & coding. So Seraphim did nothing wrong nor endangered children. Facts are important!

    • Agreed, People need to find out the truth before saying things they know nothing about

    • Actually, Kind of think it’s interesting. Given that there’s parental supervision on the other end, it’s a G rated sim that is CLOSELY monitored, with LL behind on the matter. It honestly helps with child enrichment in this day and age, as well, gives kids something to do while locked up in doors due to covid. <3 Wish I’d had known about it before ^_^

    • Okay, but the fact that you care to reply on gossip site under the event name rubs me the wrong way. Is that really the kind of publicity you are after?

    • I’m in favor of this. A friend of mine works with tv shows doing all the fun 3d editing, and his son has shown interest in it. This would be a safe space to take him and let him meet other kids with the same interest, and maybe even volunteer his time to help while he’s there.

  88. #13 don’t. he’ll use you until you have nothing left and then cry about you to his next flavor of the day. cody takeda is not to be trusted

  90. #44 – Not exactly a secret is it. Anyone who knows this lying sack of shit knows that lying is his main game. Also throw in a touch of manipulation, using, abusing, alt loving and you have the complete package. Why anyone even gives this old man any attention speaks more about their desperation than his.

    • what exactly is alt loving? Genuinely curious. I too, have alts. and?

      • If you use an alt to get laid when your primary account is paired up, that’s alt loving. I had someone try to do that with me once. I blocked him and then found out the girl dumped him a couple of months later. I wonder why.

      • huh.
        I mean ok, I guess.
        I don’t think of Sl like that, I think of it as cute dollies for photos, but to each their own?

  92. #4.

    The uv is totally different from evo to evo x to the point where it’s near impossible to update an old skin to evo x. It’d be a new skin. Not an update. Take it up with your favorite skin makers to request them to make a new skin based off an old evo skin.

    • Or just click the button in the EvoX hud to Classic and apply the EVO skin.

      • OP of the graphic is saying they want to wear their EVO CLASSIC skin WITH the NEW EVO X creations… such as blushes and so on. Which is why they said they CANT mix and match therefore they are requesting that skin creators make new Evo X versions of old skins. I’m assuming because all the new Lelutka creations are for Evo X. EVERYONE knows about the classic button, that’s NOT what people are complaining about. So like I Sit Back and Watch and I Know Things said.. OP would have to ask the creators to make a new version of old skins.

      • Right? But the op was saying how they haven’t found a skin to suit them that is evo x and asking designers to support converting their evo skins to evo x and it’s not possible. I mean it is, but it’s not. And how most things are evo x now for layers and customization.

      • You can use same skins love for Evo .. on EvoX till one arrives like. Not rocket science and takes time abd it is 100% possible convert. its Just editing face placement a bit … not a huge difference

      • You’re right and you’re also wrong. Yes it’s not rocket science to convert a skin from evo to evo x and yes it does take time and yes you can use evo on an evo x head if you’re in classic mode but there is still a huge difference in the uv between the two. It all depends on if the skin creator feels like updating/creating an evo skin to evo x as there are differences in the uv. Otherwise if it were the same, there wouldn’t be a need for evo x and people wouldn’t be so butthurt over it. Most creators have said they won’t update old skins, a few have tried and said it was a bitch to do. My point to the post was that they should take it up with those creators.

      • Actually it is a huge difference, it’s not just face placement, the whole face is bigger in the texture than with the SLUV. I have dev kits for every head I’ve ever worn because I make my own custom tattoos sometimes, and trust me there is no way to simply convert a SLUV skin to Evo X. You’d get crazy distortion and blurring.

  93. #26 Shhh… She’s on a important mission (or that’s what she thinks) calling everyone out as racists because she feels hurt not having 200 asian heads on SL so she can get payed money to use them and make shapes for her own profit. Her logic process is so stupid most of the people just ignore her ass at this point. It’s just the same old group of asian wannabes and weebos pretending to be asian starting drama on FB. The most fun thing is most these bitches are more racist than anyone on the grid, like pretending they’re the only minority affected. How about releasing heads from other races, nooooo don’t dare. Release 200 asian heads because “hurrr durrrr chinese people are 60% of world population huurrrr durrr” but they’re not on SL dumbass!

    • Please show me proof that she said anything about wanting 200 Asian heads. She was simply expressing that Lelutka releases mainly European heads and some more diversity would be nice. The world is not just black and white. People have opinions so let them speak up. Idk why it’s so hard to comprehend and people like you who just seem to miss the whole fucking point.

      • She said 60% of the world population is Chinese and she was fighting for “equal representation” of asians in SL, meaning that at least 60% of the heads should be asian. I would agree with her in that point if the 100% of the Chinese population were users of SL, but the truth is that’s not the case. She would be more on point fighting for “proportional representation”. But that would set her for a disappointment, since the majority of users in SL are those people she tries so hard to set as oppressive eurocentric people. But it’s fine, she’s just an asian/chinese proving to be Chinese, being against creator’s freedom to do what they want or what their inspiration drives them to do, she’s doing a great job if she wants to be the next comunist Chinese leader. Imposing what people should do, create, and don’t dare to say anything against her.

    • lol there real actual asians here, just saying but yes i feel like im being obsessed by Weebs
      I remember one time when i said something in japanese to my friend in sl, and those weebs starting to be like So creepy

    • You’re just dumb, aren’t you? “Prentending to be asian”??? SHE’S ASIAN YOU DUMBFUCK

  94. #5 Tired of the owner playing around with bb guns and his penis? Out here looking like G.I. JOE.

  95. What if a person couldn’t afford groceries, should they just go and take out a couple pieces of stuff in a package because they can’t afford it?

  96. That’s an absolutely shit comparison. Nothing was actually lost to anyone in this case, unlike a finite physical object from a package of many. A much closer comparison would be someone buying a landscape painting from you, and you getting mad that they painted on a few more trees after they got it home because they like it better that way. It might be an offense to your ego as an artist, but nothing is lost or stolen.

    ETA: And also yes, I think people who can’t afford food are justified in stealing it, but that’s a whole other discussion.

  97. SL users of all communities have made personal edits of purchased textures for as long as I’ve been on SL. As long as that personal edit is never sold or never given to anyone else (not even your alts), it’s generally seen as a gray area and “okay”. Same as you can buy a meal kit at your local store and not cook it according to the directions or you can buy a painting and add a flying spaghetti monster to it if you want.

    On that note, how on earth did this person expect credit? Is the person who did it supposed to walk around with a giant sign saying “shaders by Aether”?

  98. Yes.

    Food is a basic human need, a human right in my opinion. Free food should be available and I don’t think shoplifting for survival is morally wrong.

    Furry mods on SL are not essential. But if someone’s charging up the ass and has an ego fifty thousand times bigger than their brain, I don’t see the harm in taking shortcuts or using a base of a purchased public mod.

  99. Hi!! I’m Aether!! My queue actually was not full, and this person had messaged me wanting a fully custom design (ref sheet, complex mod and all) and I actually was offering to work with them on payment plans! They decided to pull out which is perfectly understandable, I know that my work is kind of on the pricier side but it also pays my bills!!

    After they had pulled out, I had seen an SL snapshot on FA of a mod that I had NOT made as a custom or sold in my MP, with my full body shading. I messaged them and tried to compromise with them but ultimately after speaking with several other artists and knowing that this person would just try to repeat offend and get off the hook with a little paywall, I blocked them from my store and from commissioning me altogether and a few other artists have blocked them from their stores/events as well.

    I also offered to do this mod for them at a highly discounted price ’cause I already knew their monetary situation was a little rocky!!

    Also, the 20% isn’t in any of the SL verbage from what I understand, and it’s actually against SL’s Third Party ToS to create a tool or viewer that would supersede the permissions applied to an product (mesh, texture, prim object, script or otherwise).
    Due to the fact that all of my textures included with my modkits are copy/no mod/no transfer, these actions are against Secondlife/LindenLab ToS!

    I appreciate people coming to my defense and I also appreciate the criticism, I’ve taken down all of my extremely simple/plain mods from my store as to prevent further misuse of my work!! Thank you!!

  100. I’m not sure, I’m still studying DMCA and art law to be honest!! I appreciate you being understanding, and honestly I would agree that there’s nothing wrong with modifying commercial skins if it weren’t for the fact that this person (individually) COMPLETELY recolored and altered something commercially available. There’s also an important note that tattoo layers are basically infinite at this point, and if you’re talented enough to alter a full mod to that degree you are talented enough to make tattoo layers to accent or add details that you feel you’re missing!!

  101. Likewise. It’s honestly fucking ridiculous to care what a person does with something they purchased from you properly, as long as it’s for their own personal use only. Now if they distribute it or try to sell it, by all means come down on their heads with all the power the law gives you to protect your IP. But personal use modification? Why should anyone who already got paid for all the work they did care? Just sounds like ego and maybe a little greed, even if they did discuss creating the modification, even if the modder decided they couldn’t afford it. It’s not like the original creator did the work and then didn’t get paid.

  102. “Ego and a little greed” sums up Aether’s clique to a T (basically sugarcult)
    They’re all about circlejerking over how they’re poor starving artists (despite dominating the market) how they’re never being paid enough, even if they’re charging several hundred dollars for a fucking single color mod.

    It’s all about pretending to be victims, but at the same time, stroking your own ego vigorously and giving dramatic speeches about how you deserve to be paid more by the evil, malicious, horrible customers who dare to say such offensive things like “I’m sorry but that’s not within my budget.” The customer is always wrong with these people…

  103. This is confusing.

    Did this person sell the edit?
    Did this person give the edit away?
    Did this person buy the commercially available mod they edited?
    If this person completely edited a commercially available mod, doesn’t that make it more than 20% their own work?
    Was this a personal mod edit just for this person made by this person?
    Why is it only a problem because they completely edited it?
    Did they just add adult details?
    Did they take a mod that’s normally blue and made it red?

    I’m an artist too. If someone wants to take a print of my artwork they bought, paint it red, turn a cat into a dog, and hang it around their neck – I really don’t have the right to shake my fist and go “You can’t do that, it’s stealing”.

  104. it’s actually against SL’s Third Party ToS to create a tool or viewer that would supersede the permissions applied to an product (mesh, texture, prim object, script or otherwise).

    And yet, SL Cache Viewer is widely available & used by many, so much so that people can talk about it in the open and no one, especially LL, seems to give a shit. HydraStorm also still exists and isn’t that hard to obtain either….

    So either your claim is nonsense or this is something that LL doesn’t enforce, just like some of the other super old rules that seem to have not applied for 10 years or more.

    I’ve taken down all of my extremely simple/plain mods from my store as to prevent further misuse of my work!! Thank you!!

    “One person made me mad by using my shading so now I’m taking down a much of mods and losing out on many sales” seems like shooting yourself in the foot, but I guess maybe you can make up the difference by charging people $100 per plain white furry custom. That’s what you and your clique do right? Jerk eachother off and whine about your artist rights to charge obscene prices for minimum effort.

  106. Ripping textures and mods happens way more often than people think, too. Sorry but it’s not some special, isolated hate crime if someone uses SL cache viewer to take your shading, it’s happened to pretty much everyone. It’s so easy to grab textures no matter what and I often see ripped mods around. Honestly a lot of furries genuinely think stealing is the way to go and don’t even know that creators don’t like it lol.

  107. XD says the one who also shit talks on here about everything under the sun. I mean that makes you as much a bully as everyone else on here. I love people who try to talk high and mighty on here, but dish just as much shade to others.

  108. Yeah, I remember seeing that thread here but now I cant find it.

  109. You can’t delete comments, but if you’re feeling humiliated you can get your friends to come and flag them until they get removed by the auto-moderator. That’s what usually happens here.

  110. I suppose the truth hurt then? It’s disappointing Aether didn’t answer my questions but the comment above does clear up what I was confused over. After reading that, the person involved did nothing wrong but become the victim of a certain “cult”.

    Person X, if you’re out there, I’m sorry they ripped into you over personal work you made for yourself and never intended to distribute.

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