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Virtual-Secrets, Week 641

12/06/2020 · kesseret ·

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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.


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  1. MissyJustHurts says

    12/11/2020 at 5:53 pm

    August Cruz Ŧιrєвurи (august.torii):You actually think I give a fuck about anyone that works here? I pay them to do a job. They don’t like it they can leave. I could care less if everyone of them leave.

  2. ? says

    12/11/2020 at 1:18 pm

    When sjws are the boomers or unemployed of sl ?

  3. Lurky McLurkington says

    12/10/2020 at 3:45 pm

    #3. SL is full of fun and interesting things to do and see that don’t cost a thing. Start with the “Destination Guide” and go from there. Get out more.

    #4. SL is laggy (for everyone) but very laggy for some because you need to upgrade your equipment. If you can’t then just deal with it like everyone else.

    #29. There’s a market for everything in SL. I wouldn’t buy it but I admire the clever scripting and hours of work that no doubt went into making it. Don’t like it, don’t buy it. See how easy?

    • Yep says

      12/10/2020 at 5:15 pm

      #4 – Yep! Speaking as someone who just got a new computer, my lag has improved 10-fold. People like this should consider it’s their old system and not the game.

  4. Dixxie Mint says

    12/09/2020 at 3:05 pm

    #31 I agree, she is a pure cunt and a bitch !  ? 

    • Sooooo says

      12/11/2020 at 3:14 pm

      I was one of her kids. I haven’t spoken to her in a long while so she might have changed, but at the time she was one of the neediest people I’ve ever met. She had to be on voice all the time and if you didn’t answer her calls, she’d freak out and spam call you until you picked up. She’d also say that she was happy with you and then go out and put up an adoption panel without any discussion. Her kids weren’t allowed to have adult lives, or private lives. It seemed more like she needed an emotional support animal, not a kid. Idk if she’s gotten help since then but I really hope so.

  5. Itsthehateforme says

    12/09/2020 at 9:09 am

    Doesn’t matter how long you know someone, the sweet old lady from church you known for years who has never cussed or anything could be a racist. It’s 2020 people everyone can hide who they truly are.
    But what really gets me someone like her who is a minority is being racist and those who are backing her up are confirmed racist.

  6. lots of laughs says

    12/09/2020 at 2:00 am

    #2 Real Native Americans are just glad that people are still stuck on the old feathered headdress racial stereotypes and haven’t discovered the modern day rez culture stereotypes yet.

    #7 So you have a problem with them having young looking avatars in SL, but you at the same time you’re implying that they’re ‘old hags’ in real life like it’s a bad thing? Maybe if it weren’t for ageist bigots like you that try to shame older people for being old/looking old in real life, then maybe they wouldn’t have the psychological need to have young looking avatars in SL.

    #19 Lmao. I like how this person is acting like they’ve discovered some unknown top secret cutting edge feature on SL. Everyone knows voice changers exists. Most people can also tell when someone is using a voice changer because of how unnatural their voice sounds. Most gender swapping voice changers (I assume this is what you’re getting at) work by changing the pitch of the human voice. Changing the pitch is extremely easy, BUT it’s not enough. The major flaw here is their inability to change the timbre of the voice convincingly. Think of Amy Winehouse’s voice, her singing voice is fairly low pitch, but she still sounds distinctly female, that’s because her timbre is distinctly female. Most male to female voice changers just jack up the pitch of a person’s voice because of the false notion that females have higher pitched voices so that must mean increasing a male voice’s pitch alone would make it sound female. td;dr Voice changers are not magic, it’s obvious when someone is using it.

    #29. I don’t care if this is the store owner using reverse psychology to get people to buy their product, but I’m totally going to buy this product now.

    #33 When you try to virtue signal but instead you get called out by the comment section for not knowing shit about Japanese cartoons.

  7. Not Even Close says

    12/09/2020 at 1:36 am

    #15 – if there are more animations in the item, you are going to pay more for it. Its not a “queer tax”.

  8. Goku says

    12/08/2020 at 3:03 pm

    # 15. Backbone
    that’s not a queer tax that’s a group vs non group pricing difference. You join their group you get a group discount. Get the fuck out of here with the slandering of a shop with no actual knowledge of what you are seeing

    • Sooooo says

      12/11/2020 at 3:18 pm

      They’re referring to it as queer tax because you can buy a lower priced version with M/F poses, but the only way to get M/M and F/F poses is to buy the higher priced adult+ option. In order for it not to be a queer tax, they would need to sell three different lower priced versions, one with just M/F, one with just M/M and one with just F/F. It has nothing to do with the group discount.

  9. NotIt says

    12/08/2020 at 2:25 pm

    not Imperia’s hasburg chin(google it) looking ass being a racist  ?  ? 

    its the inbreeding for me ? 

    • TheDevil says

      12/10/2020 at 5:52 pm

      its Habsburg

  10. You're dumb. says

    12/08/2020 at 12:16 pm

    33. Kiki’s Delivery Service is a fucking movie you moronic swine.

  11. makeSlsecretsgreatagain says

    12/08/2020 at 7:40 am

    So Imperia is racist, but when I wanted to post a SL secret to expose TiddlesWiddles for his racist past, then y’all don’t dare to put the secret up? Lol who y’all protecting? the owner of this website is as fake as a pressed on nail.

    • america says

      12/08/2020 at 10:24 am

      You know how I know you suck? You named your post “MakeSLSecretsgreatagain” it was never great. Its a site where everyone spews shit at one another. So if you want it to be how Trump set up his place, You are already there. otherwise, stfu read the dumb shit and laugh like the rest of us.

    • NotHereForTheFiction says

      12/08/2020 at 2:17 pm

      How many times have you posted this drivel now? Let it go. Cos you’re starting to sound like this keeps you awake at night. Take the hint that nobody else cares and move on. Seriously.

    • Pressed On Nail says

      12/09/2020 at 5:52 pm

      the secret that was submitted about Imperia is fabricated and photoshopped, she is not racist

  12. 2006 says

    12/08/2020 at 5:06 am

    You want to be a whore in SL? You go be the best whore you can be.

  13. Fam please says

    12/07/2020 at 11:43 pm

    great job making yourself look like an idiot abs highlighting how idiotic morphs are, Tres Beau. You took someone else’s photo and gave and morphed it in photoshop into an advert for a product…over abs over. Sure use, other people following that same awful trend have similar looking adverts.

    And your unprofessional ‘logo’ which is just an unedited abs non commercial font was ‘stolen’. Yeah okay…hire someone to make an actual logo.

    Stop with the morphs. I don’t buy from you because your products look nothing like the adverts. I don’t buy from the people you’re dragging for similar reasons, but at least they’re not over here throwing a fit.

    Also that Ives lipstick didn’t even match up well enough to be suspect. Lots of people don’t hardline the edges there because it becomes harder when dealing with varied head shapes specifically at those UV points. Calm ffs.

    • Mike says

      12/10/2020 at 2:36 pm

      I can recognize Tamara Williams’ work! I guess it’s a trend to copy paste her pictures on sl mesh heads :))

  14. That one person says

    12/07/2020 at 6:18 pm

    #29 – thanks for that secret! Thats friggin awesome! Definitely want now!

  15. Noone says

    12/07/2020 at 12:10 pm

    12 & 27: The usual resource that most skinners seem to use in SL https://www.tamarawilliams.net/instagram

  16. Well, actually says

    12/07/2020 at 7:11 am

    #1 lolol salty much?
    #8 #31 no idea who that is but that looks poorly photoshopped
    #13 #28 #32 #44 it sucks if it’s true but otoh tres beau steals photographers’ photos for all their shitty morphed ads so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    #16 oh come on, ur already in VS, just spill the tea
    #19 isn’t the point of SL to be whoever and whatever you wanna be?
    #21 or you could just, ya know, earn ur lindens
    #24 calm down Karen, nobody is forcing you to buy their stuff at gun point. Their store, their prices, if you don’t like it go shop somewhere else and if you can’t afford it don’t shop. Wake the fuck up designing clothes in SL takes a ton of time and effort and they can charge whatever they feel is fair for the time they put in and then ass clowns like you just want it all handed to you for free, ur nothing but an entitled tw@t expecting to leach off of creators. YOU disgust me. End of rant.
    #29 holy shit Karen, WTF is wrong with you, go back to your hole and shut the eff up
    #36 How about you stop telling people what to do in their own SL, nobody is getting hurt by getting a subscription invite, nobody is getting oppressed by those nasty and horrible faceapps and morphs (yeah, they’re disgusting but to each their own), nobody is forcing you to join any groups if you think it’s overpriced.
    #39 kudos to her for making SL whatever the fuck she wants with whoever the fuck she wants, you sound salty af

  17. Milf Thot says

    12/07/2020 at 6:42 am

    #44. Whew…! it’s a mess this week, isn’t? It’s clear what’s the intention here, she/he even took the picture on the same angle ?? also, bitches been creating alts to comment in here to defend their work so they don’t look as bad anymore ??? Zaira and Evan are a mess and so is their Brazilian trash English.

  18. Eva says

    12/07/2020 at 6:39 am

    #13 #28 #32 #44 I don’t think Lory Grau would post these secrets, she’s always been into drama and I know she would love posting these on her Facebook page, lmfao. Y’all need to calm down and agree that many creators been copying her ideas and doing it all over again using the same references because they know her ideas sell ?

  19. Eva says

    12/07/2020 at 6:35 am

    #13 I knew it!!!!!! I’ve been saying this all along, even if both of them used the same google reference, Moccino is always copying Tres Beau in every release, she does it on purpose.

  20. Opinionated SLer says

    12/07/2020 at 5:37 am

    #15 It isn’t right that the regular PG furniture doesn’t also include PG gay animations. If Backbone has them to put into the adult & adult+ versions then they should be in the PG version as well. Gays cuddling aren’t adult orientated, so no excuse to not be in the PG furniture as well.

    • Haha says

      12/07/2020 at 2:55 pm

      Wtf is wrong with you people. Extra animations means extra time to make them or if not original, extra money to buy full perm ones. Fucking stupid.

      • Not Even Close says

        12/09/2020 at 1:38 am

        This. Extra animations = extra lindens. Oy. Not that hard, folks.

      • Sooooo says

        12/11/2020 at 3:21 pm

        So sell three basic versions: One with just M/F, one with just M/M, and one with just F/F. If you want something that includes all of those, you pay more, but if you just want M/M animations, you shouldn’t have to buy a more expensive fatpack version. To force someone to spend more money to get queer animations IS a queer tax when those animations aren’t offered separately on their own.

  21. N.V.M says

    12/07/2020 at 4:07 am

    1. Not that I have ever seen. But who knows.

    2. You don’t know for a fact that they are native or not. You don’t know if ALL natives would or would not use that type of imagery. Why are you trying to speak for everyone ? Your opinion is not everyone else’s opinion you self centered asshole.

    3. Hard to swallow pills – SL is only boring for you if you can’t shop because you have no friends and don’t explore places. Crybaby.

    4. SL is laggy as fuck for you because your pc is SHIT. 🙂

    5. If your comp was a NASA PC then you wouldn’t be laggy as fuck. Why you lyin ?

    6. K.

    7. 14 year olds don’t have big tits or curves like those avs. Tall does not equal pedophile. Kawaii avatars do not equal pedophelia. People that keep shouting that this is pedophelia are pedophiles because only pedophiles would keep pointing fingers at people. Dummy.

    8. From the look of the pic it looks like a fugly bitch. js .

    9. Ok……. sounds like someone is bitter.

    10. Or you could just ignore people. Why be a fake ass liar ? lol

    11. vomit.

    12. People wouldn’t lie if they didn’t have people pestering them the second they log on. This might come as a shocker to some people but you need to give people space. Weirdos.

    13. The lips are different, the brows are different, the freckles on the cheeks are different, the font for the logo is different. Sit the fuck down Lory, we know you made this post. NO ONE WANTS TO COPY YOUR BASIC ASS SKINS. They are all overly glossy and they ALL look the same! do something new already.

    14. It was simple to understand if you have a brain. Maybe you need to go to the hospital.

    15. They charge more because they add WAY more to the + items. Don’t want to pay for it then don’t buy it. Go somewhere else and be cheap. Their products are TOTALLY worth the money.

    16. Facts

    17. So, you’re saying that people who are 40 or over shouldn’t play SL ? You realize that the main age of people in SL is between 30 -50 years old right ?

    18. Timm is ugly af. Someone please fix his avi.

    19. The sl voice morphing is garbage. You can tell if it’s a man pretending to be a woman and vice versa. If you can’t tell then you are dumb as fuck.

    20. Because they are lazy.

    21. Or look on mp for free stuff and get group gifts. dummy.

    22. draw 25.

    23. If you don’t dj then stfu. You are tipping them for their time that you are standing there listening to what they are spinning. You are paying them for your stupid ass requests that are overplayed.

    24. Can’t afford it ? Don’t buy it! No one is forcing you. Dumbass.

    25. Everyone that uses that faceapp smile thing is pathetic. FACTS.

    26. WTF is with that huge ass chin ? I swear she has the ugliest avatar I have ever seen.

    27. There are so many companies in sl that make a product like that. You going to report them too ? Sit the fuck down.

    28. Lori, shut the fuck up. You never make anything “new”. It all looks the fucking same and you are just pissed off that someone has a skin similar to yours. Once again, the brows are different, the lips are different, there is no shine on the cheeks on beautes skin. The issue is probably that you both bought the same full perm skin psd files to create your skins. YOUR SKINS ARE GARBAGE LORI. CREATE SOMETHING NEW. Oh and Beaute’s shape is WAY better than your shape. Your’s makes the eyes look weird.

    29. I think it’s pretty neat 😀 just because YOU don’t like it, it doesn’t mean someone else won’t like it. Your opinion isn’t the only opinion. Stop trying to speak for everyone.

    30. Sounds like someone got hurt lol

    31. truth.

    32. Lory, no one cares. This is actually a popular lip shape with quite a few lipsticks. I personally own lipsticks with this shape from several places in sl. You arent the only one. No one stole shape from you.

    33. Kiki’s delivery service is a japanese cartoon movie FOR KIDS, it falls under the category of my neighboro totoro, letters to momo, ponyo, mary and the witch’s flower, and spirited away. Only a pedo would assume kiki’s delivery service is about pedophelia. Sit down pedobear.

    34. Ok then.

    35. It’s just a troll. what is a homophone and phonic ? You don’t even know what youre saying. Its HomoPHOBIC and PHOBIC. Ugh you can’t even stick up for yourself right.

    36. A) they put the subscription script in there in case the person who recieved the item got it as a gift and doesnt know about their shop.
       B) Truth.
       C) Truth.
       D) Truth.
       E) Truth.
       F) Truth.
       G) Nah … I like having a roof over my head and I like having my bills paid.

    37. blank ?

    38. Bitter much ? Sounds like you didn’t fit in lol

    39. Guess what ? What she or anyone else does isn’t your business. You can’t be a whore in sl. Why? Because you aren’t fucking them for real. Who cares what people in sl do. You don’t like it ? Don’t log on. Go do something RL.

    40. Or, if you just log off sl and do something rl then you wont need to worry about toxic people like the toxic person who made that post. (You know who you are) 🙂

    41. The only issue I see with her outfit is that she needs a white or grey scarf and white or grey boots. I don’t think the black goes well at all. Her face is pretty. I think that you just don’t like her.

    42. k.

    43. lolololololololololol wtf is that mess.

    44. Once again LORY, we know you made this post and the skin isnt like yours. Sit the fuck down. The skin tone is also different. Yours is Ashy as fuck and the other one is too orangey.

    • suffering a separated scroat says

      12/07/2020 at 10:40 am

      they have faces of 13 yr olds clearly and not sure where youve been for the last uh FOREVER but yes, 14 yr olds do in fact have big boobs (some of them) so youre clearly a pedo yourself into these child-like avs

      • why... says

        12/08/2020 at 10:35 am

        I am a woman in real life, I am 32, I am 4’11” I have small breasts and small frame, AM I A FUCKING CHILD?! NO. Dumbass, people come in all sizes. If they are using a legit child body, Kemono, Toodleda, Toodledoo WTF ever they are all called, then its pedo shit. If its an adult body, and head…. and they say their characters are adults, stfu and carry on with your own life. Help actual children who are being abused and sold into sex slavery. No one in SL is a kid anymore. thats rare, and they arent running around fucking people.

  22. A-Kid says

    12/07/2020 at 1:33 am

    I’ve done both jobs and they’re both hard.

    The hardest part of being an actual DJ is making your own playlists, making sure everything sounds good together, and trying to fit in really *really* bad requests so they don’t break the mood you’re creating (some club goers are absolutely tone deaf and will request things like a song from the 40’s in the middle of your Rave set). If you’re live djing and creating the playlist on the spot, that’s even more challenging.

  23. Lord Mew says

    12/06/2020 at 11:38 pm

    I think we have scraped the bottom of the stupid barrel this week. Kiki’s Delivery Service is a goddamned Walt Disney cartoon. (yes, it’s ghibli drawn, but Disney made the English dub and distribute it)

    Stay stuned to next weeks SL Secrets to see this same shriveled old moron complain about someone’s Frozen poster.

    • A-Kid says

      12/07/2020 at 1:21 am

      I can see it now.

      “Let It Go? What EXACTLY is this pedo letting go??”

    • Well, actually says

      12/07/2020 at 7:19 am

      “For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.” Matthew 12:34

      • yes and no says

        12/08/2020 at 10:37 am

        though this quote is yes, true…. Can we not use bible quotes… god damn religious bullshit. rather read a damn better fairytale

  24. Dancien Graves says

    12/06/2020 at 11:25 pm

    #15 so you’re going to donate the money to pay for the extra animations then?

    • Well, actually says

      12/07/2020 at 7:22 am

      It is a choice to exclude same-sex animations from the PG and adult packs. There could easily be less animations while still keeping it varied, and the adult+ could still have more or more unique animations. The fact that the *only* same sex animations are in the most expensive pack has nothing to do with how many or how good they are.

  25. Ridiculous says

    12/06/2020 at 10:42 pm

    #33 Kiki’s Delivery Service is an Anime like some of the comments say, I know the girl as she use to be my sl sister. Her display name is Kiki, but the person behind Kiki is a horrible person. She blamed me for my sl mom asking her nicely to leave the family because my sl mom didn’t feel like she was a daughter anymore because she wasn’t coming around when she (my sl mom) was around and she wouldn’t talk to any of us. She has literally told me she only comes on to create for her store and that’s it, and then complains when my sl mom isn’t around even though she is. So Kiki yelled at me and called me names and said some really ridiculous things to me, she also claims to have been in the FBI or whatever. *rolls eyes* But Kiki’s Delivery Service is the name of her store, she uses it EVERYWHERE.

    • Smdh says

      12/07/2020 at 2:23 pm

      Yeah I thought the person who posted this is stretching a bit by calling them a pedo. They probably don’t like the Kiki person either and they’re trying to get them on some dumb cancel wagon.

      Or alternatively they’re just that damn stupid.

  26. Kendaya says

    12/06/2020 at 10:37 pm

    #13 LMAO! If Lory Grau (Tres beau) post this secret, she being stupid! She used Real Life photos with copyright LOL because If you email to photographer with Tres beau Ads and skin texture, They send DMCA to SL. Please check Pinrest, Model Mayhem and google images… you can find all texture in less 2 minutes BIG LOL! Stop crying like little bicth.. She make profit selling with the skin texture… She dont pay to model, hair stylist, makeup artist, location, nothing.. Also thief!

  27. Brookebitch says

    12/06/2020 at 9:50 pm

    Those who are jobless for real, broke in SL and have high demand for shopping are the most dangerous lot in SL. They will go all the way to manipulate and use others . Watch out for this lot … be careful. Eliminate them if you can

    • Justanothersheep says

      12/07/2020 at 2:31 pm

      Huh?

  28. Kendaya says

    12/06/2020 at 9:00 pm

    FUCK THIS! #28 & #44 …
    Both are copycat! Both steal their texture!
    Tres beau (Lory Grau) maybe steal their skin texture from google images. She had 18 years. Maybe dont pay for the texture or licenses. Probably both steal texture from Model Mayhem..
    She dont pay photographer, models, makeup artist, fashion stylist, hair stylist… Then Both make profit stealing to professional photographer.
    All their ads are morph.
    Also Moccino! But with bad quality.
    Only glam affair make original skin texture. Please stop to talk shit, that bicthes are illegal. I’m really tired! We need original texture not steal texture!!

  29. Would you look at that says

    12/06/2020 at 8:17 pm

    #17 probably posted this about HERSELF to be a victim and I’m sure that #42 was posted by HER about HER girlfriend. The mental illness runs very deep with #17 and anyone who was unfortunate enough to cross paths with this washed up 40 year old can agree. It would be beyond an embarrassment to date her or to be associated with her in any form or fashion. Stay off the computer for a while “JASPER” and focus on your mental health in real life

    • DingDing says

      12/07/2020 at 1:19 am

      What girlfriend? You mean the one who left her crazy ass and went back to her ex? She don’t got a girlfriend but she definitely has talked about her ex’s illness to others. I’m friends with one who she talked to and she said some really horrible things. That’s all she does is talk shit or make threats to the point where she would say she’ll kill them or “end” them. She’s so crazy!

    • Ew says

      12/07/2020 at 2:18 pm

      Honestly she’s the craziest person I ever dated… never did it feel so good to get away from someone before. If you notice how she has not one person to be around there is a reason for that. She loses everyone in her life and that is why she has multiple accounts… she will cling to you like a fly to a piece of dog shit. Run far away if she comes near you… seriously run!!

    • Ha says

      12/08/2020 at 9:19 pm

      The girl Jasper was with didn’t even like her. Jasper is everyone’s rebound and from the looks of it she has moved on to a new girl named Kamaria. Eat shit Jasper!!

    • Sighs says

      12/09/2020 at 6:58 pm

      That girl was warned… jas doesn’t love anyone she loves the idea of someone . She will tell you things you like to hear and I know from experience . She also cheats but will accuse you of cheating on her . Whatever is wrong with her does run deep.

  30. Asshole at the end of the Backbone says

    12/06/2020 at 7:59 pm

    15 Hi, some of you have called me a “retard”(You take that high road sweetheart!). You know, the one that made the post about BackBone… It seems I need to clear up my position, as my post seemed to “whoosh” right over some of your heads.

    A) Some of you seem to think that I didn’t already know the Adult+ version of their products comes with the most animations out of the 3 options. I do understand this point. I’m not unobservant, despite some of your assertions. No one is saying that more animations should be less money.

    B) MF cuddle animations are unusable for gay men. MF animations assume that one of the avatars is bigger and the other is smaller. So no matter how you adjust the poses, someone is always clipping into the other or your limbs are hanging in the air.

    C)The point is this; If you’re an LGBT customer shopping at BackBone, you’re always paying a higher price for items than straight customers. If we want to shop there, we have no option in that store other than to buy the most expensive version, always. Not only that, they pack in a bunch of hetero and polyamorous animations I’ll never use(But I’m expected to pay for). I like BackBone’s designs. They appeal to my aesthetic. I want to give them my business. It’s a shame that they don’t simply offer LGBT versions of their stuff, rather than assuming that a gay person is going to want/use straight animations and poly animations.

    D) For those of you telling me to just go shop elsewhere; Duh! I am. However, I do want as many LGBT folks in SL to know that BackBone is here to rip them off.

    • A-Kid says

      12/07/2020 at 1:25 am

      Well if you’re asexual, you get the cheapest price since you’re only buying the PG stuff so not all LGBT+ folks are getting ripped off. Just saying.

      My only grump with them is when a set is adult only. I don’t want these crap sex animations, I just want the pretty holo furnishings.

      • Asshole at the end of the Backbone says

        12/07/2020 at 2:19 am

        That’s my point though A-Kid. If you did want to cuddle, pg style, with someone of the same sex, they only put that in the Adult+ version. So yeah, if having non-clipping animations and poses is something that matters, you are potentially getting ripped off, even as an Ace.

        I’ll nip the next part in the bud; We could also say that this doesn’t always apply to bisexual and pansexual people, as they would often require the extra sets of animations, and thus pay more for the extra content. However, there are lots of bisexual/pansexual people in monogamous relationships with same-sex partners, so they would be dealing with that upcharge too.

      • A-Kid says

        12/07/2020 at 6:31 pm

        Oh really? I didn’t know about the cuddles for LGBT+ stuff only being in the Adult+.. wow that’s garbage.

  31. Anonymous says

    12/06/2020 at 7:17 pm

    #34: dear God I’m so glad someone put that lying whore on here. Didn’t realize she had that many alts and lives shes destroying.

    • You right, chief says

      12/09/2020 at 3:58 am

      She’s got a lot more if I could find them… and she has access to every single one of them.

  32. whut says

    12/06/2020 at 7:01 pm

    #15 – OK Karen lol

    #33 – Studio Ghibli is wonderful

    • LGBT Furniture says

      12/07/2020 at 8:49 pm

      Actually, while maybe now how I would have put it, their issue raises a few valid points….

      1. It takes time to set up animations in furniture, esp adult. However, there is no difference if its set up in the same piece of furniture or separate pieces of furniture, either way the animations still need to be set up. So it benefits the creator MORE by having them in the same, then they can charge more as they have more animations in that one piece of furniture, rather htan having them separate and charging the same price for each.
      2. There are a limited number of actual gay animations so for either the straight or gay versions, so the majority of adult animations creators buy were created using a male and female avatars by the animator and are sold that way. You are likely to find the same animations in both. So you could be paying more for using the same animations in different menus.
      3. Gay animations are selected and set up more for gay sex, so this means a difference in positioning the avatars… so a lot of the straight animations dont work as well without having to spend time repositioning their avatars and who wants to interrupt their fun to do that 🙂
  33. Iamsurprised says

    12/06/2020 at 6:49 pm

    #7. Reaching Really far. These look like grown women as someone else said. What Child has a body shape for breasts like that? These are clearly adults.

    • Sickandtiredofit says

      12/07/2020 at 2:11 am

      Yeah they just look like 99% of the women trying and failing to look unique.or edgy. Nothing unique or edgy but kind of sad and pathetic. Why do you all have to look the same?

    • suffering a separated scroat says

      12/07/2020 at 10:42 am

      i guess you never looked at the faces they clearly look like children, and ya a lot of 12, 13, 14 yr olds have larger breasts i guess youre into these kiddy faces avs. must turn you on

  34. Queer Justice Warriors Unite says

    12/06/2020 at 6:03 pm

    #14 BOYCOTT BACKBONE QUEER PEOPLE UNTIL THEY LEARN WE DONT HAVE TO PAY MORE JUST TO BE LGBT+ IN SL. DONT LET BACKBONE LUMP US INTO GROUP SEX AND MF POSES JUST CUZ WE DONT FIT “THEIR” NORM.

    DONT LET THEM TELL YOU THEY CANT DO IT, THEY CAN THEY THINK WERE MADE OUTTA MONEY AND ARE DESPRETAE TO GET QUEER FURNITURE…WELL WERE NOT.

    ITS ABOUT TOO BE 2021 EQUALITY IS LONGGGGGG OVERDUE.

    • A-Kid says

      12/07/2020 at 1:27 am

      Asexuals pay the cheapest prices though. We’re in that +, ya know.

      But it does bug me that there’s not a m/m or f/f adult version instead of adult+ for the rest of the letters.

    • Realistic says

      12/07/2020 at 3:06 pm

      It’s been a while since I bought animations, but back when I did, the full perm variety (that you could use in furniture you were going to sell) that was at all “unusual” (meaning, there were a million other exactly the same options) was crazy expensive. Like thousands per animation. I don’t know the backbone creator, but it may just be them trying to recoup some of their excessive costs from a limited market. It reminds me of when there used to be very few creators for men’s clothing, and men would complain that the only ones who did make male options, charged too much. If the market is smaller, it’s going to cost more, because the creator is going to sell less for the same amount of work. In this case, the creator is going sell less for the extra expense of buying premium animations, and the scripting time it takes to add the extras. It’s really not reasonable to call that “discrimination”. It’s not a case of offering the “exact same thing” for a different price to different markets. But for the amount of backlash the creator is getting, it would make sense to offer it as part of the PG package, and for one price, and just hope that increased sales over time will reward the time and cost.

  35. FartSparkles says

    12/06/2020 at 5:43 pm

    8 prob just photoshop, boring af this week, even this year.

  36. FartSparkles says

    12/06/2020 at 5:36 pm

    Not seen everything yet but FFS STOP TRYING TO CULTURE APPROPRIATE EVERYONE YOU LEFTIST ANNOYING TWAT! It’s ESPECIALLY IRRELEVANT IN SECOND LIFE YOU IDIOT LMAO.

    • Smdh says

      12/06/2020 at 5:44 pm

      What in the world are you going on about

      • Pocketsand says

        12/07/2020 at 6:31 am

        #2 maybe? Seems like the only one this week that’s kinda close?

  37. Would you look at that says

    12/06/2020 at 5:07 pm

    #17 probably posted this about HERSELF to be a victim and I’m sure that #42 was posted by HER about HER girlfriend. The mental illness runs very deep with #17 and anyone who was unfortunate enough to cross paths with this washed up 40 year old can agree. It would be beyond an embarrassment to date her or to be associated with her in any form or fashion. Stay off the computer for a while “JASPER” and focus on your mental health in real life.

  38. Anonymous says

    12/06/2020 at 4:43 pm

    #2 – PREACH! I totally agree.
    #10 – Yes, I have done this. Works like a charm.

  39. A-Kid says

    12/06/2020 at 4:09 pm

    #7 Those don’t look like teenagers to me. Does it say in their profile they’re 14 or are you breaking your arm reaching? And I gotta say it – male avatars are stupid about how tall they make themselves. He’s probably over eight feet and any normal proportional adult female would look like a kid next to him.f

    #29 I dunno, that’s kinda cool. I know a lot of monster avatars who would be all over that.

    #33 It’s the name of an anime. They’re probably a fan of it. 30 seconds on Google would have answered this for you.

    • Ridiculous says

      12/06/2020 at 10:36 pm

      That’s exactly it, she use to be my sl sister but she’s a bitch and blamed me for kicking her out of the family when it was her own doing.

  40. OpenYourEyes says

    12/06/2020 at 3:54 pm

    Seraphim does use a calendar. There is literally a link on the right side that says “CALENDAR” clear as day. You can see what events open each and every day.

  41. viking says

    12/06/2020 at 3:48 pm

    Wow! A lot to unpack this week. But I’ll only comment on these two as all the others have been thoroughly addresed.

    #10, I promise you, parterning with an alt does not always work. Especially for women. There are still plenty of people who will IM you and try to get in your pants even if you’re taken. Unlike RL, there are very few repurcussions for those that try, so they try plenty. Or maybe that’s just been my experience.

    #15, while I do agree with what some others have said here, about there being more animations, thus a higher price, I also see your point that there is no alternative. Nobody thinks about the fact that gay people have to buy a bed with hetero animations that they might never use. I guess the thinking is that, in SL, everyone’s just fucking everyone so why not have ALL the options. But if you’re only looking for cuddles, can’t you make the normal PG one work? All you have to do is adjust the animations. Last I checked, gay people don’t have vastly different ways of cuddling with their partners than straight people do. I understand the sex is different, but the cuddles?

    • Russ says

      12/06/2020 at 6:06 pm

      Sometimes editing the poses is more trouble than it’s worth. I personally just use whatever cuddle animations are available on the furniture I like and if we are clipping just witch to one that doesn’t clip so badly or not at all. I’m gonna miss going shopping at backbone but I can’t support their business practice after it was brought to my attention.

    • LGBT Furniture says

      12/06/2020 at 8:03 pm

      I make the separate, so there is a hetero version and a gay version. I dont want to charge extra for something people may only use half of.

    • Opinionated SLer says

      12/07/2020 at 5:47 am

      Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of really nice gay bento animations for designers to work with. So unless you know someone that can make you your own animations to use in your furniture you’re stuck with only a dozen or so decent ones you can purchase to use. So your bed would end up with hardly anything in it at all & then people complain there aren’t enough animations.

  42. Justanothersheep says

    12/06/2020 at 3:40 pm

    No.33. Really need to widen your cultural awareness !!!!!

  43. Justanothersheep says

    12/06/2020 at 3:35 pm

    No.44 Is it bad I like the Moccino one better

  44. Justanothersheep says

    12/06/2020 at 3:32 pm

    No.39, Well, I don’t know who Tara is … but seriously, it’s none of your business what she does with her pixels or who she does it with. Are you so fragile in your masculinity / sexuality that a woman with a healthy sex drive terrifies you so much, you have to call her every name under the sun.

    Hello! News Flash. WOMEN LIKE SEX TOO, sorry if that scares you.

    • viking says

      12/06/2020 at 3:50 pm

      Slut shaming never goes out of style, apparently. At least on this site, some of the men are subject to it, too. That certainly doesn’t make it acceptable, though.

  45. Definitely not a moron says

    12/06/2020 at 3:05 pm

    #8 & #26 – thinking about this logically, why would a creator say such things knowing they’d get ousted. Definitely seems fake.

    • Well, actually says

      12/07/2020 at 7:31 am

      The first one looks badly photoshopped and the second one shows no receipts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  46. whyyoulyin says

    12/06/2020 at 3:05 pm

    #8,#26 after seeing her supporters. I believe it. You can tell a lot of a person by the company they keep. And well…. yeah you can see for yourself.

  47. sweetjesusmakeitstop says

    12/06/2020 at 2:42 pm

    #8, #26 – holy shit.
    Tone deaf, racist -and- ugly inside and out.

    • Smdh says

      12/06/2020 at 3:46 pm

      Interesting how your comment looks exactly like, “Whyyoulyin”’s comment. You’re really sad and pathetic.

    • Well, actually says

      12/07/2020 at 7:32 am

      The first one looks badly photoshopped and the second one shows no receipts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  48. LGBT Furniture says

    12/06/2020 at 2:28 pm

    I agree with comments that extra added animations will mean as designers we put prices up on our furniture, that’s fair as it costs us to buy them.

    However, I can also understand peoples’ frustration at having to pay more JUST to get an LGBT version for 2 reasons:

    1. A lot of the gay versions use male / female animations as there are a limited number of true gay full perm animations so creators use straight ones but set them up using either 2 female avatars or 2 male avatars. So these additional gay versions maybe using some of the same animations that are in the straight version anyway, it is just the menus and animations are set up more for gay sex.

    2.They are paying for straight and gay animations when they might just want the gay version.

    This is why I do them separately – you can buy either the straight or gay male. The single sits are the same in both, but in both the PG and adult versions the cuddle and sex animations are set up for either straight or gay male. I also set up each new piece of furniture from “scratch”, so no two menus are the same, even if I reuse the same animations in different pieces of furniture, there will be some variation so the animations fit that piece of furniture. I dont charge extra because it’s an LGBT piece of furniture, I charge for the amount of work that goes into it (original mesh, template, textures AND animations). I also consider how much people might be willing to pay for furniture, it should be affordable, but still reflective of the work put into it.

  49. Anonymous Content says

    12/06/2020 at 2:27 pm

    #23 – Spot on! As a proper, live DJ in SL, it really irks me when people steal sets from YouTube or Mixcloud and pass them off as their own. I know it happened to one supposedly SL famous DJ who played a stolen mix at a club and forgot to remove the other DJ’s ident from the mix. Personally, as someone who spends real money on buying the music I play and then spend hours carefully curating a DJ set to take my audience on a musical journey, I am glad someone else is fed up with these plagiarist fakes.

    • Loser says

      12/06/2020 at 5:06 pm

      LMAO. just because you are live doesn’t mean you are great.. lot’s of “live” dj’s has boring af sets. DJ’s in sl create a party, A good party is few and far between in sl. Play great music, it’s a great event.

  50. anonymously yours says

    12/06/2020 at 2:15 pm

    People need to stop throwing Pedo around and hoping it sticks. #7 doesn’t look anything Pedo. Wearing pink and being shorter than a oversized man doesn’t make it pedo. They look adult and he looks like a giant. As a woman who is 5’2″ and dates men who are over 6 foot I’m used to a size difference and i’m ok with that in real life. Second life I usually prefer to be closer to my partner’s height because I can be 6 foot in here!

  51. ok says

    12/06/2020 at 2:12 pm

    Is #33 forreal? Watch a fucking Studio Ghibli movie.

    • viking says

      12/06/2020 at 3:10 pm

      Right?!! What a feckin’ idiot! smh it’s an anime. Like 3 seconds of research would have found that out.

  52. Meh says

    12/06/2020 at 2:10 pm

    Tres cuts her faces off peoples images, morphs to map and claims as own. She doesnt hand draw a single skin. Doubt even knows how truly make a skin base up. Hence always relies matching others bodies. Moccani may have done same. Who knows. But cant copy a copy thief. And we all know it’s Tres posting the secrets herself.

    • observer3000 says

      12/06/2020 at 3:24 pm

      I was cackling at those secrets, 5 minutes scrolling on Pinterest and you can find the real-life faces of these “skins”.

      • Justanothersheep says

        12/06/2020 at 6:52 pm

        Wonder if the *REAL LIFE* Women would be insulted or flattered they have been made into SL skins? Just a random thought.

      • Well, actually says

        12/07/2020 at 7:35 am

        I would guess underpaid! They’re models, it’s their livelihood.

  53. Curious says

    12/06/2020 at 2:06 pm

    Regarding the multiple comparisons between TB and MB, I’m wondering if they just used the same source picture of a real life model since that’s what those brands seem to do. They both morph the ads to match the original model image. If anything, they’re both stealing someone’s likeness to make a skin in SL, yes?

  54. Smdh says

    12/06/2020 at 1:59 pm

    #8 Anyone who has talked to Imperia knows that this is not their formatting / how they type. Not to mention when you put this particular photo through a filter you can see the lines of where it’s altered, so shit job on putting that together. I don’t know what she has done to you or why you hate her, but shame on you for pulling a stunt like this.

    #26 * “A friend of mine.” Alternatively, “My friend.” Not “mines”. You just ratted yourself out by that mistake. I’m pretty sure someone can figure out who keeps making these by how they’re edited, and your terrible grammar mistakes. Again, shame on you. What goes around comes around, remember that.

    #32 This is sad. Don’t steal.

    #33 I’m not to keen on child AV’s but this is a stretch. Kiki’s Delivery Service is an Anime. A movie. For kids. Chill out.

    #42 Learn to format your “secret” better. This is god awful to read. It’s physically hurting my eyes to look at, and it’s making me strain them just to read it. Tl;dr it’s pointless to read. Move along.

  55. Pocketsand says

    12/06/2020 at 1:50 pm

    #29: This one was a reach… Just like a good handful of secrets this week. (What’s going on? Are you guys all ok? Lol) That being said, I’m not going to waste this chance to mention Clover and their recent issues.

    They released a Bento animated particle spell HUD recently and depict it as having photo realistic flames (or close to it) in the vendor ad. In actuality, the particles are the default gradient LL particle blobs and look like hot ass instead of fire. On the bottom half of their ad, they write in small font that the flames don’t look like the ad. But then, why would you make your ad a lie like that if it doesn’t represent the literal only thing your product does?

    Of course, people came at the creator on their Flickr listing over this, angry and feeling they’d been misled. So the owner added a Facebook gallery after the fact showing what the particles looked like and told people they should have demoed the product. However they also deleted a lot of the angry and negative comments and left only more sympathetic ones. In particular, they deleted the comments of one woman who claimed she’d bought other products from Clover and they were also “not as advertised” and when she’d commented on those Flickr listings, the complaints were deleted there too.

    So this brings up some interesting points:
    1) Always demo everything when possible because people in SL have so many ways to be dishonest.

    2) Just because you put a small disclaimer on your ad doesn’t make your ad any less of a misleading trap if it doesn’t depict what you’re selling at all. It still looks really deceptive and makes you no better than people who use morphs to sell skins. You’re misrepresenting your work intentionally so it looks more appealing to buyers, otherwise you wouldn’t do it. If you have to essentially lie in your product image to make it look appealing, you’re doing something wrong.

    3) From one creator to another: If you make a mistake like this as a creator, for the love of God, don’t try to delete and hide the responses and/or alter it to look less bad for you than it was. That just makes it look 200% worse. If you have a lot of angry customers, and their responses aren’t completely irrational or they do have a good point, apologize for the issue and work on making it better. If you can’t in that instance, do it in your future products. That level of transparency and willingness to be responsible for your actions will help you in the long run.

    • Um says

      12/06/2020 at 3:04 pm

      So… they posted that the particles were not the same on the ad and posted a full gallery of the spells when people complained, and you are mad? I bought the spell system and I had no issue seeing the disclaimer. Where is the lie?

      • Pocketsand says

        12/07/2020 at 6:25 am

        Using the disclaimer to go “oh well this makes it not a lie” is being disingenuous at best. While you’re technically correct, putting a disclaimer at the bottom of an ad that says the image is not an accurate representation does not mean the image isn’t initially misleading. The complaint is that the ad should never have been deceptive enough in the first place to need a disclaimer, and the intent behind using such an ad to attract business is what seems duplicitous. If you stand behind your product and what you offer, you shouldn’t have to display something else entirely in order to attract potential sales. You should be able to offer honest representations of your work.

        As for adding the gallery after complaints were made, that was the very least they could have done, but it was added with the comment that the gallery was to “clear up confusion” as their response to the criticism (other than “well there’s a disclaimer”). However the confusion was entirely the creator’s fault by using the ad that they did; something they fail to acknowledge. From a consumer standpoint, you can only gather this means they think that nothing was wrong with what they did.

        To make thing even more questionable, it would seem this isn’t their first foray into misleading advertisements for products (some without demos). One customer complained that the Ohcami pet was not as advertised. They also had their complaints ignored and removed. ( https://gyazo.com/c2418601637e719b0f495e7d7f7e4729 )

        (And for those reading from the sidelines, this is not a case of “well they enhanced the image or used better models or photoshopped textures to look a little nicer.” The difference between ad and product is like night and day. Feel free to check out the ad and the Facebook gallery examples: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cloversl/50551638103/ )

    • viking says

      12/06/2020 at 3:53 pm

      I’m cool with PhotoShopping pictures, as long it’s just pictures, but when they are advertisements for a product, they should represent what the real product looks like. But there’s a good reason the phrase “let the buyer beware” exists.

  56. My Throbbing Beard says

    12/06/2020 at 1:49 pm

    I am surprised anyone still comes to Woodcrest, the management is practically non-existent, the admin team consists of the co-owners friends who aren’t even there half the time themselves(they must realise how shit it is.) Half the players on the sim don’t even know how to separate IC from OOC, they really think they’re livin’ their best lives as the “Queen Bee” where several guys acknowledge them. How thrilling.

    Most of the women are deluded and are desperately throwing themselves around at any guy that drops in for even a second. Single males don’t last very long at WC, but even the taken ones are still harassed by the post-menopausal women that inhabit the sim.

    The only roleplay that happens on this sim is chasing boys, so yeah not great if you actually want to create stories and actual character progression.

    If you’re looking for ACTUAL roleplay don’t come to WoodCrest. It’s an OOC dating hub full of thirsty bored post-menopausal housewives.

    • No one you know says

      12/07/2020 at 3:59 pm

      Any good RP places you like?

    • Ant says

      12/11/2020 at 12:38 pm

      like anything, it’s what you make it. if you have shit ideas, you will think it’s shitty.

      The Truth is, it’s a College RP sim. it will have most things that would happen in a College setting. For anyone that likes that, they know Woodcrest is the best place for it.

      It won’t have criminal mafias, because it does not fit. So if someone can only think to do criminal RP, it is not a good fit. There are many RP sim that cater to different types of things. Try bringing a robot to a Harry Potter sim.

      if you don’t like the Roleplay, don’t go there. Apparently there are people that like it, that’s why they go there. Just because you are too stupid to comprehend why, doesn’t mean your opinion is Absolute or even correct in the slightest.

      I think there is a real issue where stupid people think that they are geniuses and that everyone MUST want to hear their idiotic opinions about everything.

      ok, satana420 or whatever your stupid name is?

  57. In the background says

    12/06/2020 at 1:45 pm

    #33 I feel very bad for the person who doesn’t know the awesomeness of Kiki’s Delivery Service or any other film by Studio Ghibli.

  58. First of all... says

    12/06/2020 at 1:26 pm

    18. He keep it juicy-juicy. He eat dat lunch.

  59. Be Less Ignorant, Please says

    12/06/2020 at 1:08 pm

    So it’s broke bitch angst this week, huh? If you need money to have fun in SL, then you have serious issues; you’re exactly the type people are worried about. Why do you have to be shopping all the time? What does your inventory look like; do you even organize all the shit you buy? I bet not, and then whine because you can’t find anything. Get your shit together and get a job if you’re so desperate, you poor, sloppy dumbass.

    As far as #14 goes, I saw this melodramatic twat in the group chat whining about this stupid idea of a “gay tax”; Adult+ doesn’t cost more because it has GAY animations, it costs more because it has MORE animations, and he was a literal retard because people tried to explain that repeatedly. You’re disqualified from the Victim Olympics due to inventing oppression, moron.

    #29 You cannot be serious; you are also dismissed for overwhelming stupidity.

    #40 HEAR, fucking HEAR.

    • viking says

      12/06/2020 at 3:56 pm

      #14 then the question you have to ask yourself is this: do they also offer an adult bed that has only gay animations? If the answer is no, then you should be able to see this person’s point. After all, if you wanted to shop at a store, and they only offered the MF animations in the most expensive product, wouldn’t that piss you off? So yes, the Adult + has a lot more animations, but it also has some that a gay person would not use, right? If you’re not gay or bi, or interested in group sex, would you buy the Adult +, or save yourself some L$ and buy the normal Adult?

      • Cash says

        12/06/2020 at 4:56 pm

        Or, you could do what many in the crowd do and shop from places that cater to your desires, rather than bitch at the ones who don’t, that you’d probably never purchase from in the first place. This person is simply trying to drum up drama for no damn good reason. There is non-hetero furniture in sl, and it’s not that difficult to find. When I search out new furniture, there are a lot of poses in all kinds of furniture that I may not use, or may use sparingly. If I like the furniture and at least some of the poses, I buy it. If I don’t like it, or them, I don’t buy it. It’s really not this damn complicated, I have no idea why people make it so. No one is adding on some kind of gay tax, though, that’s just idiotic. This person went off on some weird ass rant because they were too lazy to actually look for the furniture they wanted. It’s easier to bitch.

      • viking says

        12/06/2020 at 5:31 pm

        Agree that there are other places to shop (although not as many as you might think, relatively speaking), and certainly there’s no reason to boycott this business because of that reason alone. It would be better for them to talk to this creator, ask for their creations to be more inclusive. Like I said, it doesn’t cost the creator any more money to have one exclusively for homosexuals. But some people would rather cry over perceived unfairness than actually work to change hearts & minds.

      • Allthekinks says

        12/06/2020 at 7:12 pm

        Just so you know, Adult + isn’t just an addition of gay poses. There are a lot of extra sexual poses that just include gay poses as well. Backbone doesn’t need to change anything to be “more” inclusive. AND YES there are many places in SL that do cater to that type of furniture, you obviously need to search out the grid a little more. I have many gay friends and family but calling people out because they don’t include everything in every type of something that you want is god damn ridiculous. AND THEY WOULD SAY THE SAME. Don’t like it, DONT FUCKING BUY IT! But don’t sit here and for a second believe that creators need to change what they do because you aren’t happy with how they do things.

      • viking says

        12/06/2020 at 7:50 pm

        Ok, let me be clear. I did not write this secret. And I know that VS is not the place to go for nuanced discussion of a subject. My points are simple, and I’m not saying the creator has any obligation to offer any product other than what they do, or that they owe anyone a different price. So let me see if I can just clear up what I’m saying so nobody else gets all bent out of shape thinking I’m saying something I’m not.

        1. Don’t boycott Backbone.
        2. They have no obligation to make a gay bed
        3. Yes you’re paying for more animations, thus the bed SHOULD be more L$
        4. Yes there are other vendors that sell gay merchandise, I really don’t know how many or how good the quality is because I don’t spend all my time in SL looking for the best gay stuff
        5. Yes those vendors also don’t always offer straight versions of their merch
        6. No, charging more is not a “gay tax” and shouldn’t be treated like it’s some kind of civil rights issue
        7. Yes, they’re not just added gay animations, and again, this makes the bed worth more L$
        8. Finally, anyone can say “shop somewhere else” and they should, to find what they like. All I’m saying, and this is my ONLY point here, is that it wouldn’t hurt them to offer an adult bed, for the same price as the straight adult bed, that includes gay animations only. If they have the animations, and can add them (as they do to the Adult + version), they could do this. THEY DON’T HAVE TO, but it would be nice if they did. That’s it. That’s all I’m saying.
      • Queer Justice Warriors Unite says

        12/06/2020 at 5:57 pm

        No you are dead wrong if the shoe were on the other foot and there was a queer version for less and the straight version for more you be bitching bitching so hard Karen.

        if we have to pay more for queer animations its a queer tax. try seeing it from our point a view. I’m so sick of it stop discrediting us cuz were queer.
        Instead tell backbone to make a regular queer version. and show support instead of being entitled straight people.

      • Cash says

        12/07/2020 at 9:11 pm

        You’re making way too many assumptions about me and what I purchase, or what I’d bitch about. You don’t know my orientation or my shopping habits. I’m well aware of what is available in sl that cater to all of my needs.

        I stand by what I said. I didn’t discredit anything, I simply said you can shop somewhere that better caters to your desires….like the rest of us do. Calling for a boycott and pretending this is some kind of discrimination, when there is ACTUAL discrimination out there, doesn’t solve a damn thing. You’re being ridiculous, and actually quite judgmental yourself by making assumptions about everyone else. Why do you assume everyone responding is “straight”?

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        12/06/2020 at 6:20 pm

        Thank you for offering the answer I would have, only probably more politely than I would have because that’s the obvious answer. If a store doesn’t make what you want to buy, shop somewhere else! Duh.

    • Well, actually says

      12/07/2020 at 7:49 am

      You’re seeing this backwards. The complaint is not “it’s more expensive because gay”. It’s that the creator chose to put gay stuff *only* in the most expensive pack.
      The point is that if you just want to cuddle, it’s straight or nothing. If you just want a basic adult pack without fancy extras, it’s straight or nothing, and that same sex animations are treated like a fancy extra. And that’s just uncool and it is totally some form of “gay tax”.
      That said, boycotting is just BS, the creator is free to choose what to make, and even though potential customers are also free to criticize their choices (like the shitty choice to include same-sex animations only in the most expensive pack), nobody can force a creator to make anything that they don’t want to make.

  60. Anonymous says

    12/06/2020 at 1:03 pm

    #23 – As someone who has spent years streaming in SL, the amount of requests from users proves you wrong about what people tend to enjoy. They don’t want to come listen to you loop the same synth stuff over and over for 20 minutes for one “song”. They want to come hear their favorite music, spiced with the flavor of the person playing it for them and to hear what other songs come to mind that fit well with that music. They come to dance, be social, and enjoy good music. If you think no work or effort goes into DJ’ing in SecondLife, you’re sorely mistaken. It takes time and effort to put together both themed and non-themed sets, make the music flow in a way that’s not jarring, and play to the crowd’s interests and preferences. Also, it costs money to host a stream on which to play that music. THAT’S why DJs and hosts ask for tips.

    • Anonymous Content says

      12/06/2020 at 2:30 pm

      The amount of money I feed into Beatport to buy music to DJ with FAR outweighs the little I make as a DJ in SL but I carry on doing it, because I love sharing the music that I’m passionate about.

    • Press the X says

      12/06/2020 at 4:36 pm

      Im a dj in SL as well, i’ve never done a live gig at a real life venue because i don’t feel like im good enough, yes i use songs from youtube, yes i use songs from other websites like beatport, but i don’t push play and walk away from it. I use a Dj deck like may of the dj’s in world and mix the songs to make mashups. So im sorry to say mr ” i pay good money for my music and you are all fakes “, you need to get the fuck off your high horse, wait, your name isn’t paris by any chance is it?. I pay for my stream and i play the music and try to be entertaining on the mic, i don’t force people to listen and i don’t force people to tip me, but wheni do get a tip it feels nice to know that someone is finding me entertaining. I was a t a club the other day and the dj played the same loop for almost 30min, i ended up turning his stream off, yet he make almost 7k, why? because people enjoyed his mic presence and he was entertaining.

    • Music is Music says

      12/07/2020 at 4:43 pm

      I stopped live mixing years ago because my listeners liked my more eclectic off the cuff playlist sets far better. 17 hours of sound-a-like synth, techno, house, industrial, where you can’t tell when one dj changes to another is boring and dull. Also yes, hosts keep things going when you’re too busy to interact, help set things up, promote and socialize. Tip the hosts and the DJ and the venue.

  61. what ever says

    12/06/2020 at 1:02 pm

    #15 when they put more animations in the item then the PG version, you pay more for it , same goes for 1 single clothing item or the fat pack .1 dance animation or the fat pack. It has zero to do with your sexual preference, So to use that as a excuse because you are to stupid to see that there are more animations used in each item, makes you look like a fool. You don’t want to spent all that money on a item from backbone then go shop somewhere else but stop using sexual preference as a excuse for being a cheap ass

    • viking says

      12/06/2020 at 3:14 pm

      I think you missed their point. If you have shopped there, you know the PG item isn’t the issue. There is one Adult item, and one Adult + which includes lesbian/gay animations. The regular adult is just hetero. Thus, there is one adult for hetero, none for homosexuals, so anyone who wants the homosexual animations has to also fork out an additonal L$1000 for the Adult + version. If they offered an Adult hetero and an Adult homo, there wouldn’t be an issue. The designer could offer that without any added cost to themselves. So it’s not about being cheap, it’s about desiring equality.

      • LGBT Furniture says

        12/06/2020 at 3:40 pm

        The only extra cost would be time in doing a separate piece, but if they are the same textures, then its only in boxing up an additional piece of furniture and setting that up on caspervend etc. This doesn’t take long. It may also be more of a financial issue…. they can charge more because they have all versions in one piece of furniture, rather than doing 3 separate pieces and charging the same for each. Again, this is why I do mine separately, so people aren’t having to pay so much for something they might use (the straight menus).

      • Cash says

        12/06/2020 at 4:58 pm

        So shop somewhere else, it’s that simple. You act like there’s some kind of shortage of furniture that caters to homosexuals, and there really is an awful lot more than there ever has been in sl. People are just lazy and like to bitch about discrimination where it doesn’t exist. Save those complaints for areas and instances of actual discrimination.

      • Russ says

        12/06/2020 at 5:52 pm

        Unfortunately alot of places tastes are lack luster. I personally would rather spend my money at backbone but i back up the poster on this 100% I left the group and will no longer be supporting them financially anymore. Companies like TnT made both strait and gay options. buit as i said different styles and different tastes. I personally would rather buy LGBT items from a place where I REALLY love their furniture. If i really wanted to, i could go to blueballs and buy a mat to place ontop, but that is litterally paying for the adult+ or MORE!

      • viking says

        12/06/2020 at 7:59 pm

        I agree, there was no cause for calling for a boycott. It’s not a civil rights infringement. I wasn’t saying that person is right, just that some small part of their argument has merit

      • Justanothersheep says

        12/06/2020 at 7:09 pm

        Right Designers – Heads up, we need PG M/F F/F and M/M and one with EVERYTHING (a Mega Bed), 5 variations on every single piece of furniture you produce with animations,

        RIGHT THAT’S THEM TOLD.. hopefully they will have it finished in time for Christmas.

      • viking says

        12/06/2020 at 7:58 pm

        Not remotely what I said or meant. Designers have every right to make what they want, how they want, and if you don’t like it, you don’t buy it. All I’m saying is I can see both points of view. A gay person that might like that bed might not want to spend more money just so they can get the poses they want. They don’t have to throw a big temper tantrum and call for a boycott. Cancel culture is bullshit. All it does is put people in 2 camps to fight shit out. But if your answer to everything is, “if you don’t like it, too bad” then you fail to see how people, especially minority groups, can feel the world they inhabit is not as inclusive as it could be. Do you get pissed because black people would like more black skins in SL? I don’t know, judging by your user name you probably do. But news flash: straight white males don’t get to decide the rules for everyone everywhere.

      • Justanothersheep says

        12/06/2020 at 8:30 pm

        Oh Sweetie.. do you not recognise Sarcasm, and afraid your totally wrong, on gender and race… huggies

      • viking says

        12/07/2020 at 3:14 pm

        So sorry honeybunches, didn’t mean to imply that you were physically a white male, just that you act as entitled as one (and I should know, as I am one, but since I’m on the other side of a screen, you really have no way of knowing that huh?). And yes, I do recognize sarcasm. It was painfully obvious you were mocking me. It doesn’t take a genius to look at someone’s idea & call it stupid, even sarcastically. So don’t be too disappointed when they don’t award you the Mark Twain Award this year for your clever wit. I guess me answering your sarcasm with reason was just a bit too much for your feeble intellect to take, though. Again, I should know you aren’t in it for actual understanding, just trolling.

      • Justanothersheep says

        12/10/2020 at 7:06 am

        Oh my darling Man, let’s examine our interaction. Firstly, you pretty bent out of joint at my comment, as you have resorted to questioning my intellect. I did not such thing to you. Double checks, no .. deffo no personal attack. Zero Name calling from the Sheep.

        I think you should stick to drinking your Peach and Basil, Rekorderlig Botanical Cider, while righting all the wrongs from your office chair.

        As always…. Huggies

  62. LingLing says

    12/06/2020 at 12:43 pm

    #17 it’s about time someone calls out this bitch! She falls so fast for you and then accuses you of always cheating on her! Pathetic!!! She’s nothing but an ugly bitch in rl! Always wants attention! And after you break up with her will talk shit to you and block you so you can’t message her back! LOL! Someone needs to take the computer away from her! She’s not mentally stable for this world! She really needs help!

    • DingDing says

      12/06/2020 at 2:46 pm

      She’s been called out weeks before this. I’ve seen it and have commented trying to warn the previous girl she made her victim with her smothering creep status. This girl has major problems beyond anyone who can help her repair them. She is the creepiest of creeps. Lucky for the girl and her family they finally realized who and what she’s really about. Do what the image says Jasper, uninstall this time. Stop running to different alts thinking you won’t be found out. You can change your name but you can’t change what a fucking creep you are living in your daddies basement.

    • NotHereForTheFiction says

      12/06/2020 at 2:53 pm

      If she’s such an ugly bitch in RL why did you date her?

      • DingDing says

        12/06/2020 at 8:25 pm

        Awe Jasper there you are! Let me answer your question for you while my comments await approval and the other person answers you. Let’s be honest you ain’t anything special in RL but no one has to date you in RL (thank god) for you to accuse them of cheating on you. That’s how crazy you are. You get overly obsessed and tell girls what they want to hear thinking that will get you somewhere. It’s not actually what you feel. You’re 38 years old, it’s time to get out of your daddies basement honestly and stop stalking girls from your past and those who don’t want you. You hold grudges like no one I’ve ever met. The minute a girl doesn’t want you you’re still acting crazy, messaging whoever they show interest in talking shit to the point of threats and telling them to disappear from the world. That’s insane!! You can’t do that to people who do nothing to you!! Let’s not forget using your alts trying to be someone else just to get back into someone’s life who has made it clear they don’t want you. You’re a fucking creep. How many avatars are you going to keep making to keep doing this to people? Leave SL and do any girl a favor from having to come in contact with you.

      • Liskatlau says

        12/07/2020 at 3:05 pm

        imagine obsessing over women who don’t want you I have a feeling that you and jasper are alike because we all know this is Z commenting because you’re still obsessed with Hadley how often is it you two still speak????and all your other ex’s(LEX)or girls who didn’t want you. Jasper is ugly and old in real life and what makes her even more ugly is her weirdo personality and her inability to act in an adult manner. Where as you don’t know how to mind your own business and an insane liar who will stop at nothing to get what you want even if that means messaging people on alts stalking irl and spamming with calls and text and *slander* Yeah we heard all about it from Hadley and Jasper, and Lexi and so many more like your sl bestie and hmm maybe even Mikey and those old kids and family of yours why all this fuss over Hadley in the first place? She must have an amazing personality to take place of her looks and what tickles me the most is I am so close to the family but you would never be able to pinpoint who I am because you are all so oblivious and self centered that you don’t even see what’s right under nose OR DO YOU?

      • DingDing says

        12/07/2020 at 7:31 pm

        Who the hell is that? I don’t care about all that. This post is about one person and you’re bringing up the damn Brady bunch? What? No need to bring up others not in the post to take away what a fucking creep Jasper is. I’m someone she was overly the top creep status with, there is many of us and it’s clear you were one too if you know so much about her. Or actually you probably are her cause that’s how damn crazy you are to try and take the spot light away from yourself to put onto someone else. Fucking weirdo!!

      • To the crazy one says

        12/08/2020 at 9:54 pm

        What tickles me the most is coming here to see what a liar you are Kat. Everyone knows that’s you commenting…EVERYONE! You will do anything to turn this to someone other than yourself just like that person you stalked up there. You talk your bullship to people and think no one will tell. You talk about H all the time in very negative ways even to her directly along with Z and the rest of the famibly. You talk about how ugly you are and how old you are all the time when you get into your crybaby poor me mode which is all the damn time! It’s so annoying!! Your annoying!!!!!!

        I am actually someone close to them…if you were close then you would know that Z and H been fine for quite sometime now…fine to the point of the possibility of getting back together. Hope that stings because you were just something there which you should of already knew that but your too busy being overly clingy to notice anything but yourself and your needs.

        Here’s an idea for you though… don’t talk your bullship on things you have no idea about and give up!!!! Your a creepy stalker and been one for years. You were kicked out and lost everyone, all your kids who didn’t really want you to begin with too. They were just hurt over other things and you were just there. You have no one and will continue to have no one because YOU ARE CRAZY!!!!! Go get help Jasper and leave others out of your drama you created for yourself!

      • NotHereForTheFiction says

        12/08/2020 at 2:29 pm

        LOL? I’m not Jasper…I wouldn’t even know who that guy is…but okay. Your story was interesting tho! Now I know who to avoid…

    • DingDing says

      12/06/2020 at 3:43 pm

      She’s been called out weeks before this. I’ve seen it and have commented trying to warn the previous girl she made her victim with her smothering creep status. This girl has major problems beyond anyone who can help her repair them. She is the creepiest of creeps. Lucky for the girl and her family they finally realized who and what she’s really about. Do what the image says, Jasper, uninstall this time. Stop running to different alts thinking you won’t be found out. You can change your name but you can’t change what a fucking creep you are living in your daddies basement.

  63. TheDevil says

    12/06/2020 at 12:25 pm

    #2 your reaching, like seriously
    #5 I lol’ed soo true, shout out to the platform loners
    #8-26 is ugly af to boot, what up with the damn chin?
    #13 and the like. its easy to get the same face as someone else, when you are just going on google, and copy pasting peoples faces on skin templates, and adding some brushwork for pores and shit…sit tf down
    #15, if it has more animations in it, like…the regular adult AND the gay ones, then its in backbones right to charge more?
    #19 no shit sherlock, this has been around forever
    #24 erratic does not now, nor has it ever gotten my business, as it has always been so far up maitreyas ASS it can’t seem to see anything else. newsflash, maitreya is ugly.
    #29 clover is amazing and they make so much amazing things, just because it isn’t something you like doesn’t mean it’s bad.
    #32 Catwa and Lelutka both give out alphas in their dev kits for their lip sizing, so, they both likely use one of those…your welcome.

    • Ava says

      12/07/2020 at 4:31 am

      Legacy (tmp) ripped people off, for real and losers still support them!

      • TheDevil says

        12/07/2020 at 6:14 pm

        BuT tHeY RiPpEd Us OfFffF! come tf on it was how many years ago? and legacy is ONE PERSON from tmp, and a completely new team, the rest of them quit SL…kinda like how people do sometimes? Also, legacy team has tried to make it right by completely updating the body and offering it for free! so how again were you ripped off?

    • Well, actually says

      12/07/2020 at 8:05 am

      #8-26 So it’s ok to accuse her of being a racist coz you don’t like her avi? huh
      #13 You’re totally right, plus tres beau steals model pics from SL all the time
      #15 Funny how you call hetero only “regular” adult… and I think that’s exactly the issue they complain about. The problem is that their “regular” means strictly hetero. The regular could have included gay and less hetero animations, reserved for the adult+ and it was their choice to reserve the gay animations in the most expensive pack. Yeah, they can make what they want and charge what they want, but they can also be called out for these choices. Boycott is BS, but I understand their point of view.

  64. Yawnbored says

    12/06/2020 at 12:25 pm

    #24 lol I’m just curious, why you think that creators need to lower their prices because of a pandemic? Honestly, what is the logic there..? Do you think that creators have less bills than you? Do you think that the time and effort they spend making something is suddenly worth less because there is a BS pandemic? Hey, how many stores in your RL have lowered their prices..? Where I live, none of them have, actually quite a few have upped their prices on quite a few things. Things you need to survive, like food.
    SL is a make believe place with make believe needs. It’s like anything else on the internet… SO. Maybe you adjust your lifestyle in SL if you cannot afford it, just like in RL.

    • Someone Logical says

      12/06/2020 at 2:15 pm

      Gone are the says when we could thumbs up, so Amen.

    • viking says

      12/06/2020 at 3:17 pm

      I second that amen. Besides, who’s to say that many of the SL designers didn’t also lose their RL jobs? Maybe their only income is now SL. It’s like you said, if you can’t afford it, you don’t buy it. Not having the latest style in SL (or in RL) isn’t hurting you. Prioritize your shit.

    • Well, actually says

      12/07/2020 at 8:06 am

      I would be upvoting you so hard right now if I could

  65. What???? says

    12/06/2020 at 12:18 pm

    1 – I won 2 times.. It sounds like you’re just mad you never win? Need better luck next time.

    17 – Jas Blinker – That is a girl in RL. Ladies, be ware. She plays mind games. Pretending to be a guy. Just be honest who you are. You’re a girl. Stop leading these girls on and hurting them.

    • DingDing says

      12/06/2020 at 2:51 pm

      Mentally unstable doesn’t even touch what Jas is. She’s way beyond that at this point. It’s been years and she’s still doing so much damage to girls. She’s probably making or has her new alt ready to go. That’s a big beware!

      • numbnuts says

        12/07/2020 at 3:11 pm

        NO ONE EVEN LIKES JASPER! The only people who even give Jasper the time of day are pathetic losers IN A VIRTUAL GAME.

      • DingDing says

        12/07/2020 at 7:34 pm

        Preach! That was Jasper commenting, all these comments are hers because we both know that Bitch don’t have no friends

    • Eh...I’m over it says

      12/06/2020 at 11:36 pm

      He is my friend and he told me day one he was a girl. He has be nothing but honest.

      • DingDing says

        12/07/2020 at 1:12 am

        Keyword friend lol if that’s true that’s only because you’re a friend. Surprised she hasn’t tried to lock you up in her daddies basement yet with her.

  66. IDontRememberMyNameBut... says

    12/06/2020 at 12:18 pm

    #32 it’s a kids movie looool that’s literally the name. of a kids movie. like putting hello kitty on kids stuff, going to freak out about that name too?

    • rudebeaches says

      12/06/2020 at 12:27 pm

      People be reachin.

    • Busty St. Clair says

      12/06/2020 at 12:59 pm

      Yeah came to say that too. It’s a kids flick

  67. Bagoflemons says

    12/06/2020 at 12:12 pm

    Oh lawd so many of these secrets bitching about lack of lindens, and how their potato can’t even play SecondLife. Go get a better potato or don’t even play, if its boring because you can’t shop you need to do something else.

    Heart snatcher would be more for photos and RP props, doubt a clubber is going go to a club and start “ripping out hearts”

    • rudebeaches says

      12/06/2020 at 12:27 pm

      People complain about the heart like they didn’t used to run around playing bloodlines doing the same weird shit.

    • Idcreally says

      12/06/2020 at 12:34 pm

      Now I wanna go buy it and go to clubs and do it out of spite. xD

    • viking says

      12/06/2020 at 3:20 pm

      Next they’ll be blaming rock music for suicides and horror movies for serial killers, right? Because we’re all just sponges, and we mimic everything we see. What’s more, good luck ripping someone’s heart out if you were so inclined. It’s kinda hard to do, I’d imagine. But again, I wouldn’t know, as I’m not a psychopath, and a real psycho wouldn’t need that kind of imagery to incline them to kill people, ya know?

      • Well, actually says

        12/07/2020 at 8:08 am

        You forgot to blame videogames for violence. This isn’t new, though. Creators are always criticized for “glorifying violence” whenever someone creates a bloody lip or a spanking mark or whatever.

      • viking says

        12/09/2020 at 10:43 pm

        Oh yes, and while we’re at it, let’s blame contraception for people having sex and unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted infections, too. Because as we all know, if you just teach abstinences as the ONLY way to avoid those things, the rates of teen pregnancy and STI’s and AIDS will go way down, right? But we do live in a world where they have to put warning labels on things you’d never think needed to be said (Warning: do not hold the wrong end of the chainsaw), so clearly we are dealing with some rather stupid people.

  68. vitamin says

    12/06/2020 at 12:07 pm

    #8 #28 is probably fake, it doesn’t sound like her at all

    • rudebeaches says

      12/06/2020 at 12:26 pm

      ok boomer

      • Well, actually says

        12/07/2020 at 8:09 am

        I think you’re using that wrong lololol

    • Justmy2cents says

      12/06/2020 at 12:50 pm

      I don’t know if it’s true or not, but, something like the messanger screenshot can easily be faked by editing the source code of the page. Just throwing that out there. If it is true then it’s tuly a shame that she is like that.

  69. WeKnow says

    12/06/2020 at 12:04 pm

    #8 #26 who’s that racist bitch and how can we ruin her? ?

    • Yikes! says

      12/06/2020 at 12:09 pm

      https://www.flickr.com/photos/182102056@N08/ – there you go…

      • jellyfish says

        12/06/2020 at 12:17 pm

        what you are doing is so obvious, no way this shit is real

      • Nah. says

        12/06/2020 at 12:53 pm

        Lmao so she has the nerve to call someone monkey?! Someone making their avatar like that
        .. I don’t even wanna know what kinda compensation for lag of RL self-confidence that is. She must be a horrible person in RL …inside and out because she probs got the face she deserves.
        And in SL well ugly is still to nice a word.
        I don’t get freaks like her or Oakley, have fun with a twisted avatar I get and love that but acting like their shit don’t stink just because they are not mainstream beauties … No thanks, but with their kinda faces it’s at least easier for us to spot the cunts.

      • Fake. says

        12/06/2020 at 3:17 pm

        As someone who has known Imperia since before she became popular, this was obviously faked. This isn’t me sucking up to her, it’s literally knowledge from having spoken to her. She’s disgusted by the N-Word and the way people of colour are treated. So whoever did this is kinda screwed up. Why do you want to cancel someone so much you’d go to the extent of faking shit. Lol.

  70. Bonk says

    12/06/2020 at 11:56 am

    Kiki’s delivery service is a children’s movie you fucking donut

    • rudebeaches says

      12/06/2020 at 12:25 pm

      This has me ROLLING

    • Nanana says

      12/06/2020 at 12:42 pm

      I never post, but I just had to lol and +1 this comment.

    • Gordon Ramsay says

      12/06/2020 at 11:47 pm

      I want my insult back.

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