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Virtual-Secrets, Week 628

09/06/2020 · kesseret ·

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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.


Welcome to Virtual-Secrets, week 628

It appears other people in world are accepting money (Linden) to have secrets or comments removed. That is not me. I have not received money ever to remove secrets, not post secrets, etc. I don’t need money.

Falling for these scams is not my fault. I can’t help that you are dumb. If you want a comment removed there are moderation flags and they function. If you want a secret removed go ahead and ask me. You know the answer is no but it never hurts to try.

 

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  1. Nebula says

    09/12/2020 at 7:52 am

    Honestly I don’t get where’s the problem of buying a mesh from a website. If they don’t say “original mesh” in their product AD and they bought an extended license (for selling the item too) I don’t see it wrong…just my personal opinion…

  2. Wen says

    09/11/2020 at 3:33 pm

    It’s obvious and sad that the person who wrote the original message I reposted on #17 is rapid-fire commenting as if they were multiple people. I hope you know it is obvious to the people reading them as well. I feel sorry for you, and I hope you seek some help. I’m not sure why you feel the need to make a personal vendetta over your passionate desire to be a mermaid since there are PLENTY of places in SL you can go be your merself. I am not about to let you disparage the people you are targeting who are too nice to call you out like I did for making serious and ridiculous accusations. Feel free to post more of what I’m sure you think are scathing comments below this post, but I won’t bother reading or replying to them. It’s not worth any more of my time.

  3. Use Common Sense says

    09/11/2020 at 12:44 pm

    All you have to do to realize #17 is true is to see how many times the person in question posted below over the course of 1 day. If it was a bunch of players, they’d have posted when the secret came out. But no. All of these replies came in quite suddenly on a Thursday, days after the secret was posted. This is one salty toxic player freaking out over and over because of being called out, trying to make it look like a plethora of people hold the same opinion.

    My guess is that she’s complaining about the VS mods because she was told to stop spamming VS about it? Not sure, maybe they’ll reveal what she’s delusionally ranting about in regards to the mods.

    I feel bad for the New Vale admins. This probably isn’t the attention you want for your sim, some ranting lunatic bashing other sims, some open, some closed. You may want to look into that.

  4. You ain't shit either. says

    09/11/2020 at 9:37 am

    17- Really Bitterwick? Yall are gonna put all the blame on one person? When there have testaments of other role players who have been banned from that sim? Both sim owners and mods needs to get help. Your sim failed because you all failed at maintaining a professional behavior towards other role players Maybe if you and your mods took some time to fucking grow up and step out of the “playpen.” Your sim wouldn’t have been such a fucking failure.

  5. ANOTHER another banned bitterwick player says

    09/11/2020 at 7:15 am

    AWWWWWW YEAHHHH WE LOVE BITTERWICK

    AWWWWWWW YEEEEEEAHHHHH I LOVE A SIM THAT RESPONDS TO CRITICISM BY TAKING CREEPY PICTURES OF FEMALES WHEN THEYRE NOT LOOKING

    AWWWWWW YEEEEEAAAAAH THEYRE SO VALID I JUST I LOVE THEM SO MUCH

  6. Thoroughly Confused says

    09/10/2020 at 1:50 pm

    First of all, none of this belongs on here. This website has next to no RP sim references. I saw an Orius thing once, and that was it. No mention of Mystara, Thorfrid, Lynnea, Clifton Forge, Wailing Rock, Fledgerock-nothing. So I’m confused as to why this is being discussed here. It’s possible the person in the picture did the secret but half of New Vale has been banned by Bitterwick, so to pin it on one is a bit far-fetched. If you like the Lore Store, then you’d probably agree that the creator’s judgement of what is or isn’t a “problem player” is more clear then someone who’s sim is already closed… and is responding to an SL secret about them. They’re already showing a grandiose of professionalism. Use some common sense and compare the success of a place like The Lore Store and the high, high traffic and positive ratings for Lore’s rp sim, New Vale. All you have to do to get a unbiased opinion is ask the players that’ve been, that’ve left, and the traffic. As I repeat, it’s closed. Likely because they were losing all their players to New Vale, Clifton Forge, and a myriad of other successful sims. On average in their last week, they had 3 people on sim, and it was the owner and his partner and one other. Agreeing with Bitterwick is essentially calling the people at the sim who’ve expressed grievances after just being punted from the place all liars. It’s also calling the recorded traffic a liar. They advertised as Lovecraftian Horror, then banned people for not doing their masquerade. Clearly, they were doing several things wrong. False Advertising closes sims, anyone that landed there would’ve discovered you’re full of shit, so don’t blame people you’ve banned. Or else you might as well tell everyone how long that list actually is. God forbid someone gets onto Bloodstone and screenshots it before you lose the region or clear it.

    Second, look at the behavior to begin with. There’s a lot of salt here. If I owned a sim and someone was posting a virtual secret about me, I wouldn’t reply to it. I would try to preserve my reputation. The fact of the matter is, it’s 50/50 if it’s her. But we know for certain that 17 was done by Zekkei because he has all the motivation to do it. He had a problem with her, he said she was really up her ass, and made it clear in the weeks to follow that people should not do what she did. If it was her, I’d think she’d say his full name. But I’m not here to defend her, I don’t like her very much myself. But I do definitively know that the owner of bitterwick is behind this.

    So let me ask you one thing, Virtual Secrets; Would you go to a sim where the owner engages in drama on Virtual Secrets and posts pictures of former players?

    Just think about that.

    • You ain't shit either. says

      09/11/2020 at 9:30 am

      I fully agree with what you are saying. I can bet nine times out of ten that Bitterwick sim owner(s) were probably shitty/toxic role players themselves and probably been banned out of other RP sims before they decided to make their own.

    • lulz says

      09/11/2020 at 12:15 pm

      Considering the secret is signed by a fairly well-known player of Bitterwick, and not by the sim owner, I think you’re hysterical. Wen literally wrote her name on the post. Considering who Wen is, I’m pretty sure she’d be in the comments denying having posted it if it wasn’t her.

      It’s pretty funny how you’re freaking out repeatedly in the posts here after being called out. We can tell you’re just the same person posting over and over. You don’t make it very hard to figure out. You’re so salty you have to spam VS. I doubt Zekkiel even knows you exist, lady. You’re weird and delusional.

  7. lmao you guys says

    09/10/2020 at 1:32 pm

    bitterwick: noooo we didn’t ban half of the SL RP community

    also bitterwick: BOOOOO YOU’RE MEAN TO ME, YOU TOLD ME YOU DON’T LIKE MY GAME??? WELL I DON’T LIKE YOUR GAME. TAKE THIS RANDOM PERSON I THINK WROTE THE SECRET BUT I CAN’T TELL BECAUSE EVERYONE HATES US

    also virtual secrets comments: well we regularly admit to not knowing anything about the second life roleplay community but we figure we’re experts right now

  8. sippycuphead says

    09/10/2020 at 1:27 pm

    imagine if bethesda blamed the failure of their game on one user

    that’s bitterwick’s argument in a nutshell

  9. eatmyass.com says

    09/10/2020 at 1:25 pm

    #17 you sure because i have never seen this person? i love how this website festers bullying so much but then you like, have an anti-suicide thing above the comments. like, could it get anymore ironic?

    “oh it’s okay to spread misinformation like facebook so long as i put that suicide hotline, i’m okay to sleep at night!” my word

  10. mom? says

    09/10/2020 at 1:21 pm

    i like how a mod on this site defended a closed sim lmao

    not a good look boo

  11. kay says

    09/10/2020 at 1:20 pm

    virtual secrets commentors who don’t even know bitterwick is closed: “seems like you’re the problem!”

    people who’ve been to bitterwick: lol

  12. where's the memes says

    09/10/2020 at 11:09 am

    also why are there no memes anymore, this site is supposed to be r/secondlife but it isn’t anymore goddamnit

    get your shit together VS

  13. okay but bitterwick.... says

    09/10/2020 at 11:08 am

    way to make a martyr out of someone, smartass. blame the downfall of your sim on one person, good idea.

  14. settle down says

    09/10/2020 at 11:01 am

    THIS JUST IN BITTERWICK CLAIMS BLUE WOMAN CLOSED THEIR SIM, CREDIT GOES TO BLUE WOMAN EVERYONE
    PRAISE BE TO THE BLUE

  15. ANOTHER another banned bitterwick player says

    09/10/2020 at 10:58 am

    Lmao at everyone agreeing with a closed sim

    #17 quit playin, or else we’re gonna thank the green bitch for closing your sim

  16. Honestly? says

    09/10/2020 at 10:55 am

    #17 are you sure ya’ll aren’t mad she didn’t fuck you cause I’m pretty sure ya’ll are mad she didn’t fuck you

    Inb4 denying it

  17. BITTERBITCH AT IT AGAIN LOL says

    09/10/2020 at 10:53 am

    LOL I love this comment thread. Everyone who hasn’t been to bitterwick just agreed with 17 and everyone who HAS been clearly made their opinions known.

    Zekkei get off VS and breathe. Ya’ll agreeing with a closed sim, like…. a little more thought next time?

    Everyone who agrees with 17 is either just scrolling or Zekkei’s butt buddy. I’m shocked a mod on here jumped on the Bitterwick ban wagon, which it’s a big one, cause most of SL is banned from their weird sim. Like come on.

  18. Uh says

    09/10/2020 at 10:46 am

    #17 Any of you agreeing with this needs to come to Realm of New Vale. Ask the creator of he Lore Store. Go ahead. Ask her. Ask the admins of New Vale the truth. Bitterwick, you’re pathetic.

    You’re closed and you’re kicking and screaming at ONE PERSON. You have 200 people on your ban list, you had griefers every week. You’re a bad person who ran a bad place and you think you can take it out on someone who never profited off of a sim that excludes people?

    Chill on that. Slam that green bitch all you want but I’ll tell you what… no one in game cares about her, she’s a nobody. YOU on the other hand, YOU are the one with your name on the tongues of most of urban fantasy players. So enjoy having people who have never met her agree with you.

  19. Babe says

    09/10/2020 at 10:40 am

    LOL @ 17, bitterwick is MAAAAD

    Dude settle down, how you gonna own on someone who’s doing fine but your sim is closed like breathe baby it’s okay

    • Another Ban Bitterwick player says

      09/10/2020 at 10:50 am

      For real. How are you going to be all righteous and justified when the sim isn’t even open anymore? Not exactly a good foot to stand on

    • settle down says

      09/10/2020 at 11:03 am

      well clearly we have her to thank for closing their sim. i don’t know what the comments has up their asses. did any of you ever even hear of bitterwick before? no, because no one liked it or recommended it. but i believe in heroes so blue bitch is my personal hero for going in, and destroying bitterwick from the floor up. a true champion of the people

  20. Oprah says

    09/08/2020 at 5:37 am

    #1 – Busted.
    #2 – World end when?
    #3 – Ouch, I love these.
    #4 – How are you offended by that, fuck you let her do her basic bitch joke.
    #5 – What the actual fuck is going on with incest porn and all these incest RPs, you people are sick.
    #6 – Yawn.
    #7 – Yup, gotta agree with that, I did make that point last week.
    #8 – Sounds like you are just salty, how about you don’t follow her? I’m sure that Gucci store appreciates the business to stay open and the low income maintenance crew employed so they can afford to feed their kids and pay their rent.
    #9 – How is that bad a photoshop, show us what a good one looks like.
    #10 – Line up and take a number.
    #11 – A little more context would be nice, he does look like a basic bitch so, is that the warning?
    #12 – Let me guess, she was pulling trains? And cadillacjack, what a username…
    #13 – Never heard of any of these people, so, context? And the old “stop copying me” crying out.
    #14 – Fuck your font size and color.
    #15 – On discord? Yeah, no.
    #16 – You could have posted some examples here…
    #17 – Haha, burn!
    #18 – Dark days hey? I.E. shit he made up?
    #19 – Now that was funny.
    #20 – Hum, no. We need speculars and specially normals, and creators need to start doing those right instead of making shit out of a million triangles.
    #21 – So you start with “you are perfect” and end up with “love the flaws and imperfections” this ain’t the place of inspirational bullshit.
    #22 – Can’t argue with that.
    #23 – Yeah that was pretty funny.
    #24 – That seems pretty accurate, and they end up closing because they can’t sustain themselves.
    #25 – What in the actual fuck, is this true?
    #26 – Creating new characters all the time is a massive red flag. Ripping looks, unless you are making your own things you can’t complain if other people buy the same stuff, and pry into RL only if you let them, so…
    #27 – What ever the fuck this is…
    #28 – More context, I’m guessing there was a competition, which you should never enter, and there weren’t enough quality entries so it got canceled?
    #29 – Look at that resting basic bitch face, he does look like an over compensating drama queen.
    #30 – Fuck your font color, and fuck your message really, ain’t no one worried about what you think anymore.
    #31 – I gotta agree with this one.
    #32 – Well this sounds like something you’d put on a support ticket to revert the payment. And betting now who ever got “hacked” just lost their account on some stupid fishing scheme, I.E. your own fucking fault.
    #33 – What is this, same guy? Made an alt to run from his shit and made it exact the same? That lame ass look is pretty common so who the fuck knows.

    > I never reply to comments on my entry, I sure as shit don’t go commenting on other comments, if you see that, it wasn’t me.

    • Such a diva says

      09/10/2020 at 1:57 am

      You tried to be cool, but this made me just know: you are crazy overrating yourself.

    • settle down says

      09/10/2020 at 11:06 am

      THIS JUST IN VIRTUAL SECRETS, YET AGAIN THE MOST VALID SOURCE OF OPINIONS, BY GOLLY WOULD YOU LOOK AT THESE SLAMS, QUALITY

  21. Not Nenos Dragonfly says

    09/07/2020 at 3:57 pm

    #33 the only thing this stud is guilty of , other than being charming, funny, rather good looking, and gainfully employed, is dicking down Donny “the Cuck” Homewood’s internet girlfriend ( a few times and a few GF’s). You don’t get your account back if your banned for age play.. read the TOS much? Anyhow I will be in game if you want to reach me… try any of my racist/black alts… lol. Donny.. you need a job buddy. This bitterness doesn’t pay the rent.. mom needs help with those bills.

  22. Lawlaru says

    09/07/2020 at 7:38 am

    You Must Be Really Fun At Party’s, Lemme Get Yo Number Guuuurl

  23. Just saying... says

    09/07/2020 at 7:16 am

    #17 has always been a drama queen play victim, wanna fuck everyone and do what she wants. Don’t let her? Then obviously shame on you for repressing her. She has so many issues, if you see her on your sim, the best thing you can do as an owner is ban her before she apps!!!

    • Whatever LOL says

      09/07/2020 at 12:26 pm

      Also, the people who complain about large ban lists on RP sims are problem players who end up on most ban lists. If you hear someone complaining about sim owners banning too many people, they are a problem player 98% of the time. If you didn’t even come to the sim and got banned from it, you’re such a troublemaker, the whole RP community knows about you.

      • Uh says

        09/10/2020 at 10:41 am

        Have you ever seen her on a secret before? Babies…. babies…

      • Another Ban Bitterwick player says

        09/10/2020 at 10:47 am

        Wow, I’ve never seen such a baseless stream of bull shit come form someone’s mouth! By the way, how IS Bitterwick doing lately? Is it good? That ban list not getting in the way of it being closed down? Tragic.

      • Thoroughly Confused says

        09/10/2020 at 3:25 pm

        you sure? you sure about any of that?

    • Oh jeez says

      09/08/2020 at 11:28 pm

      What is her SL name so i can make sure to ban her?

    • lmao says

      09/10/2020 at 3:26 pm

      someone’s mad she didn’t fuck them

  24. 2006 says

    09/07/2020 at 1:06 am

    #31 AMEN.

  25. Lawl says

    09/07/2020 at 12:50 am

    You Must Be Fun At Party’s

  26. Phoebe says

    09/07/2020 at 12:39 am

    7. Also forgetting how TMP scammed everyone years ago. It disappoints me when creators I had respect for rig anything for Lagacy.

    • Common Sense says

      09/07/2020 at 1:30 am

      Because all the SL ladies love Legacy. It’s the new kid on the block. just like in rl, you have two restaurants that serve good food. You’ve been going there, and they are cheap. But you then spot a new one and you run to that one even if it serves you the same food as the other two (and is twice as expensive).

      • Idunno says

        09/07/2020 at 9:17 pm

        But TBH Legacy looks way better then maitreya.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        09/08/2020 at 11:30 am

        Yup, saying it’s the same food from a different restaurant is like comparing a $20 burger to McDonald’s- yes lara bitches, you’re McD’s.

  27. Tired of SL's bullshit says

    09/06/2020 at 11:20 pm

    #1 & 3 This was already addressed last week. Some prick has copybotted popular brands in SL then uploaded them to third party sites. I’m going to assume YOU, (anonymous poster) are the thief. You also tried to go after Genus and turned and ran like a bitch when you saw those six lawyers coming for your bitch ass. Stop trying to steal the work of hardworking designers and get a fucking job. Or just put a gun in your mouth. Save yourself some time.

    #7 TMP will always be the shittiest mesh body store on the grid because:

    1. Their shit is basic as fuck
    2. They are overpriced
    3. They are brand exclusive.
    4. Not one god damn store on the grid wants to make clothes for them anymore.

    Had TMP not been greedy cunts, they wouldn’t have gone bankrupt as many times as they did and they would get more sales.

    #8 Sit your salty ass the fuck down and shut your cock-holster.

    #14 VWE doesn’t need trash like you stinking up the place. Go to DCFW where the bitter and broken congregate and shut the fuck up. Better yet, go join up with Vince Aftermath since he likes poaching from other feds to join his. With an attitude like yours, you’ll never be given the chance to be a champion. I don’t know Seth personally, but he’s busted his hump creating the top brand in SL and no one can take that away. And for you to make fun of Skillex who was in a car accident in RL, makes you a disgusting human being.

    • KarensRus says

      09/08/2020 at 3:00 pm

      You sounds very bitter and angry at #14. You also sound very far up Seth’s asshole. Very protective, maybe a girlfriend? VWE is trash, why are they even on this page every week?

    • USalty says

      09/09/2020 at 2:27 pm

      Like VWE never poched from other places before.

  28. Here to shop! says

    09/06/2020 at 9:48 pm

    #1 That’s a nice outfit tho, where can I get that?

  29. High Roller says

    09/06/2020 at 8:27 pm

    Couldn’t agree more. All escort clubs in SL have become so stale, mundane and boring.

  30. Katietremble says

    09/06/2020 at 7:23 pm

    #15 what kind of petty ass puts someone’s RL up that is just wrong and should be against the rules use SL pictures 

    • Roleplayer #4438 says

      09/06/2020 at 10:09 pm

      It is against the rules and also breaks that person constitutional rights. Honestly slsecrets could be sued for a number of privacy issues

      • AnimeIsLame says

        09/07/2020 at 12:02 am

        Shut the fuck up and go back to your shitty dead pedo rp sim loser.

      • 2006 says

        09/07/2020 at 1:08 am

        You must be new here.

      • Haha says

        09/07/2020 at 1:47 am

        lol constitutional rights

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        09/07/2020 at 4:40 am

        If you can name one legit constitutional right without copy and pasting out of Google, I’d die of shock.

      • Abfab Hax says

        09/07/2020 at 7:38 am

        Jesus Fucking Christ. Constitutional rights?? There is no excuse for this level of stupidity.

      • researchiskey says

        09/10/2020 at 4:05 pm

        Please tell us what consitutional right was broken here oh holy one? LOL Cos zero nodda rights of anything was broken.They can’t sue anyone, there is no privacy issue here to be claimed. Username is chickinuggie NOT RL name, location etc. The photo used they put there, they made it public to any single person out there on discord. More than likely Imma assume they probably have it on RL tab SL and most likely FB too.

        If this person was making comments about SL and SL secrets ((which be only reason poster did it cos may not know SL account itself)) then welp welcome to displaying yourself publically and getting burned? Not a thing illegal here or privacy protected information given,

  31. Katietremble says

    09/06/2020 at 7:20 pm

    #2 did u even see the animation its just ghost hands that come out of no where and then she pushes them off and makes a peace sign its just a stupid halloween animation its not pedo anything avis just look young welcome to sl And ur part of the problem go find a real pedo

  32. Nothing New says

    09/06/2020 at 6:59 pm

    1. Nothing new she has been acting all high and mighty for the longest. I knew she never meshed a fucking thing way back when she stole entire mesh teams from other designers. This chick is not a CREATOR she is a STORE OWNER! She do not even texture her own stuff. Most of her mesh team is Brazilian and she pays them pennies on the dollar to work for her! Same with all her underlings. Merch none of them mesh! Ask Dreem how much his mommy pays a month to meshers on here to keep his store open.

    3. Big surprise another store caught not making 100% Original mesh! Or wait original mesh made by someone else for you! So technically you never make the mesh you find a picture give it to someone else to make and send you the files. Not 100% original now is it?

    Wish i understood why all these people are so gung ho about other people using mp mesh when these people are doing the same fucking thing buying mesh from someone else and texturing it!

    Waits for all booberries walmart shoppers to come defend her lying ass.

    • CD Copied another says

      09/06/2020 at 10:32 pm

      All of this ^

      • Nothing New says

        09/08/2020 at 7:31 pm

        Exactly so top telling people who texture pre made mesh they cant join your little events! When your not 100% original your fucking self! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM mind blown! Also stop calling it original. Call it i found this picture on the web and had a REAL mesher make it for me! Then i had a REAL graphics designer texture it for me! Then i had a REAL coder hud it for me! Then some poor bitch who works for me boxed it for me! You get the point.

      • CD Copied another says

        09/08/2020 at 11:53 pm

        There are so many things wrong with with the way hiring is done. First of all they never disclose to their meshers what the meshes are for, in fact they lie to them. They tell them they are working towards a game in development. Poor artists from 3rd world countries see it as an opportunity and have no idea all their work is not only NOT going towards a game that they will get credit for and kickstart their careers, but they have no idea their work is being resold as is on another platform and it’s getting them nowhere.

        They lie to event owners and customers alike that their meshes are theirs, the damage they have done to the designer community by doing this is too much to write here. Expectations, etc.

        Have you ever seen a film or game or tv show, where the artists are lied to on their contracts on what they are making content for? and never get credit for the work they do?

        This is completely unethical business practice, and some idiot is comparing it to their cashier experience working at the dollar store when they were 16.

        There wouldn’t be anything wrong with it, if these designers were “running a business” and hired ethically, and were transparent. The fact they hide it, is because of how much unethical and in most cases illegal things they are doing to run their so called “business”.

      • Nothing New says

        09/11/2020 at 12:05 pm

        Right and if it is so acceptable like all of these clowns are fighting so hard to defend then why do so many of them lie and hide it?

        Why do so many of them take credit for other people work? Nothing is wrong with having teams or lying or cheating right?

        WHY DO SO MANY OF THEM DO IT THEN?

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        09/09/2020 at 5:32 pm

        So you’re some salty “creator” who textures full perm stuff badly and can’t make any money, huh? Is that why you’re so insanely salty that you’re typing like you’re mentally disabled? What part of “exclusive to one creator’s store” is not getting through?

        When you have the same mesh as a dozen other stores, that is not comparable to someone paying to have work done outside SL and being the only person in SL who can legally sell it. Do you really think rl fashion designers sit down at a sewing machine and make their own original pieces by hand once they’ve reached the point they have a store? Duh, no; they all have teams of people like seamstresses who handle specialized work professionally (just like someone who makes meshes for a living), and yet they are still sold as original, exclusive pieces. You’re just wrong, period; end of story.

    • Abfab Hax says

      09/07/2020 at 7:40 am

      You are totally correct. Why can’t any of these “creators” be honest? I hate the lies they think they get away with.

      • Ape says

        09/08/2020 at 7:22 am

        ‘creators’ ? it’s a bit like ‘Apple’ saying they created their own shit… So basically SL is nothing different than RL people.. WAKE UP!!  ☝ 

    • Blaise Glendevon says

      09/08/2020 at 7:20 am

      If a mesh is exclusive to that shop, it is original. Why is it such a shocker or a head-scratcher that a shop might have more than one person working on a design team? Please.

      • Nothing New says

        09/11/2020 at 12:02 pm

        The point is SHE LIES!

        She claims she is the one doing the meshes and is not!

        Read her facebook jesus people!

        If she came out and said I do not mesh i hire meshers would be one thing but she flat out LIES and claims the credit these Brazilians meshing for her deserve!

        Disgusting business practice.

        Are you all so dense that you honestly believe she can mesh texture hud and release so much so soon while typing 24/7 on facebook watching tv shows and now being a mother? WAKE UP!

  33. Press The X says

    09/06/2020 at 6:55 pm

    #1. Again… with the pedofile stuff? you do know that just because someone looks young, doesn’t mean they are? i mean, does it say they RP as a child? or are you just salty because its not you being choked  ? 

    • ShineBright says

      09/06/2020 at 7:28 pm

      its #2 now lol and still …what is with the pedo stuff ….its a animation you can where it as a old man …..people just look young in sl that dosent mean she is trying to be a child and its ghost hands…. like really 0.o that is being sexualized why? …someone has a perverted mind

      • Press The X says

        09/06/2020 at 11:55 pm

        oops, but yeah, i mean, ghost sex? everyone on here gets called a pedo ffs. If you’re going to call someone out as one, at least back it up with proof.

    • Nothing New says

      09/11/2020 at 11:45 am

      Right! I see grown women everyday walking around in panties with rosie cheeks a teddy bear and a binky in there mouth with collars on. Yes you are a pedo to!

  34. Lmfao says

    09/06/2020 at 6:02 pm

    #1 and #3 given the “seller” on the 3d site is the same person, I’d say they are the copybotter, as opposed to 2 distinctly different stores who have been creating mesh content for years

    • lol says

      09/06/2020 at 6:31 pm

      keep telling yourself that

      • Not Even Close says

        09/06/2020 at 8:46 pm

        Actually, the person on the 3rd site is ripping stuff from SL and selling it as their own. Blueberry has already addressed this on her social media and is taking steps to stop the person.

      • Nothing New says

        09/08/2020 at 7:27 pm

        The release date means nothing as the ORIGINAL mesher would of had it long before either of these two stores cause um DUH THEY MESHED IT! Tons of mesher resale items they meshed for people a month 2 3 or 4 months after!

      • researchiskey says

        09/10/2020 at 4:09 pm

        Correct but the original creator would have much better files than the person selling them has, they dont, they are only offering compressed exported dae and mapping you get when rip.I know this because how much I am in other grids and the amount of ripped there from these very stores and more. The store in SL selling wouldn’t have start to finish mesh layering and saved data of progress, but they do and each time have supplied it to public to verifiy. Use some common sense.

      • Nothing New says

        09/11/2020 at 11:24 am

        I know one of the Brazilians who mesh for her and have watched them do it on discord. She use the same team Saito use back in the day!

      • anonymously yours says

        09/06/2020 at 8:59 pm

        If you actually looked up the dates they were uploaded to that site compared to when released in second life you’d notice it.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 1:36 am

        I guess you must be the poster of the pictures right? How about you do a bit of research and see when they were posted on the CG Trader site before you come out reading like a moron. If they were copybotted from CGTrader, the CGTrader dates would be from BEFORE the release dates in SL. Logic my dear, you need to analyze.

    • Nothing New says

      09/06/2020 at 7:00 pm

      Or they are the original creator of the mesh and meshed the items for both stores….

    • CD Copied another says

      09/06/2020 at 10:33 pm

      Those meshes were copybotted and being sold by the CGtrader person. Though she doesn’t her own stuff in the first place. Two separate topics.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 1:34 am

        Question, because a couple of months ago they posted something about Tetra over an outfit I’ve had for about two years. Why are these old items now suddenly in CGTrader? I would have thought that if they were stolen from those places (correct me if I’m wrong about the Tetra one here), the publish date for the items in CGTrader and the other mesh sites would be earlier than the release date within SL.

        Not that I love Blueberry and all. But I just find it odd that it is the old items. The same as Mossu.

  35. DannosBigHotDaddy says

    09/06/2020 at 6:00 pm

    #29 omgggg is that Danno Spunkybutt?? He’s ssoooooo SL famous guys!! He totally isn’t into pedo shit but, hey, RP ddbg wit him bb? Btw I posted all those secrets about u bb and it’s because I am jealous you blow such hot loads into mah waiff, please come home son get off of second life we miss you

  36. it figures says

    09/06/2020 at 5:05 pm

    1. Who cares.

    2. That isn’t a child avatar. It’s plainly a “kawaii” avatar. People shouldn’t buy this garbage though because it’s well, garbage.

    3. Probably the same person that made #1. They probably sit around all day trying to “expose” stores. LOL I bet this is someone that has a shit store trying to get people to stop buying from the bigger stores.

    4. It is funny. LOL

    5. Huh ?

    6. Does that girl ever change her clothes ????

    7. Facts LOL

    8. It’s her money and her page. If she wants to brag then that’s her right. Sounds more like someone is just jealous. It isn’t her fault that you are broke. If you’re so broke then stop spending money on secondlife dumbass.

    9. Photoshopping pictures lies to people about products. The photoshopped pictures always look better than the actual products. People shouldn’t be allowed to photoshop the items they are blogging.

    10. You are AN idiot and so is she. Learn proper grammar. It looks more like she’s trying to push her legs apart, not keep them shut lol

    11. Someone is jealous LOL

    12. Hey person that wrote that… did you tell Demi about your constant worrying about what she does with her life? No ? then sit the fuck down.

    13. Uh… ok ?

    14. No one cares about your fake wrestling bs.

    15. I thought we weren’t allowed to show rl pics on here. Or is it ok when it is someone that you guys like posting it ?

    16. How do you know she copybots ? Do you copybot too ? Cause that is the only way you would know for a fact that she copybots. WTG for ratting yourself out.

    17. Called out LOL

    18. Thanks for the heads up even though I will probably never meet this person.

    19. LOL

    20. Don’t like the item ? Don’t buy it. Simple right ?

    21. Awws thank you!

    22. huh ?

    23. That isn’t a basic gay’s list… That is a basic guy’s list in sl. You forgot to add all of the wannabe vikings and hipsters in there as well.

    24. OMG So easy a caveman can do it!!

    25. Grow up Dreem. You are such a piece of shit.

    26. That picture looks like shit.

    27. Daisy, stop posting crap like this about yourself to make it look like people actually like you. Everyone thinks your are a bitch.

    28. No one likes a liar.

    29. Danno… you are a piece of shit. 🙂

    30. She’s making money now. Of course she is going to be “nice” LOL

    31. AMEN!

    32. So which is it ? Are they an account thief ? or did they just recieve stolen money ? Get your facts together before posting bs.

    33. Oh look… another basic hipster bitch.

    • SpicySoutherner says

      09/06/2020 at 6:31 pm

      #15 I’m not usually one to jump on a train about the site doing something shady… but they’re not supposed to. Love how her discord and RL pic are out there for anyone to see and potentially harass her if the mood strikes them… isn’t that why the rules say no RL info/pics?

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        09/06/2020 at 9:53 pm

        That pic is probably from the VS Discord; she put it out there publicly, I don’t see how this is any further “doxxing” than she did to herself, same as people’s first life tabs inworld.

      • Nah says

        09/06/2020 at 11:35 pm

        If you look behind the profile you can see that it is from private messages not the VS discord. Either way, it isn’t for publicity especially if the rl photo is related to slander. The rules on VS specifically say no rl pictures yet…?

      • kesseret says

        09/07/2020 at 10:40 am

        I mentioned a long time ago that I can’t be arsed to cater to people who use their RL stuff with SL stuff and comingle the two. Sorry. If no one likes my decision, fine, go start your own website.

      • Lolwat says

        09/07/2020 at 11:43 am

        But that’s not SL stuff that’s discord… the rules even say only SL stuff or use SL. but I am glad to know we can go to peoples 1st life tab in second life., take a screen shot Of their rl picture and talk shit about them now if you are accepting this! We can just disregard that whole no rl picture rule at this point.

      • kesseret says

        09/07/2020 at 1:11 pm

        Why would anyone put a RL pic on their first life tab anyway? Asking for trouble.

      • Lolwat says

        09/07/2020 at 2:23 pm

        I agree! There are so many people I can flame now. Thanks for allowing this!

      • researchiskey says

        09/10/2020 at 4:02 pm

        If something is posted on 1st life tab then that person put their personal RL informationj out public in SL, It is no ones fault but their and they already gave up right to privacy of that infomation when made it public. Discord with username chickinuggie? Is not someone’s RL information lol Are you on drugs or maybe you named your child chicken nugget? If the poster captured the discord it means that person was making comments of SL secrets on there. Opened the can themself.

    • TheTrueTea says

      09/06/2020 at 7:04 pm

      #15 why are they allowing someones rl picture and info on this site…isnt that considered doxing? i thaought that was against there rules if it was a sl pciture that is one thing but that is someones discord …..who ever posted that must be the real bitch in that situation js

    • Uh says

      09/10/2020 at 10:47 am

      Called out…. how? You mean Bitterwick was called out and Zekkei cried

  37. Pathetic says

    09/06/2020 at 4:59 pm

    22 – whoever did this must be really jealous or simply driven mad by isolation and this pandemic, Second Life is where people can be what they want, obviously calling SL children ugly is someones point today or they are simply jealous and don’t like people who put effort into avatars big or small

    • AnimeIsLame says

      09/06/2020 at 10:00 pm

      They can’t recognize the difference between there and their. Also ass and as. Must be a black person or a severely disabled white dude.

      • WhatIsYourDamageHeather says

        09/07/2020 at 6:29 am

        Ooh, that self-drag was extra-special, my dude.

      • Pathetic says

        09/07/2020 at 1:13 pm

        who ever they are, race isn’t the issue its just the sheer stupidness and pettiness of attacking someone role playing a child who has done nothing to anyone and simply enjoying their SL Life

      • ChaiTeaDrinker says

        09/08/2020 at 12:38 pm

        It is hard to see what their point is when you can’t even see the picture. SL kids have big heads? Guess what RL kids have big heads. That is how the world works they are awkward and grow into things.

  38. AnimeIsLame says

    09/06/2020 at 4:46 pm

    22 Someone has severe dyslexia.

  39. Everyone says

    09/06/2020 at 4:45 pm

    Paradox Mercury and Tiddles Widdles fightin each other all over the internet as if everyone doesnt know they’re BOTH the same kind of garbage ???

    • No one says

      09/06/2020 at 7:45 pm

      You’re right, they’re both equal garbage and just need to fuck off because we know whos posting this secret and nobody cares

    • Flying Nun says

      09/06/2020 at 8:09 pm

      True about Tiddles being garbage, but I wouldn’t agree about Paradox. I have had nothing but nice experiences with him, he seems really friendly, funny and down to earth and have heard others say good things of him too. Unlike Tiddles, who I’ve had the real displeasure of speaking to once and he came off like a total self-superior asshole, real cunty attitude who thinks he’s a sl celebrity/royalty just because he manages for two SL stores and whores for flickr favorites, following over 10k people and then massive unfollowing (I saw him get exposed for that on here not long ago lol nice one). My friends have spoken of similar impressions they’ve had of him too. And plus, Dox at least knows how to make an attractive avatar. Tiddles looks like some sort of hideous backwoods demon spawn ew.

      • Flying Vacuum says

        09/07/2020 at 1:09 am

        Okay Paradox! pick a better name please!

      • Eye Roll says

        09/10/2020 at 8:17 am

        It must be hard to fly being totally blind.

  40. LDNSLER says

    09/06/2020 at 4:24 pm

    #33. Dereck Masala, i’ve seen him in Teqi’s countless of times and other adult sims and he’s absolutely glued to that grey Deadwool Dandy suit, i swear i don’t think he took it off for the whole of 2019, he also fucks anything that moves in Teqi’s, or tries to. Can i add that ColdAsh made a fantastic suit, finally i have a feeling we won’t be seeing Deadwool suit clones all over the grid.

    • Common Sense says

      09/07/2020 at 1:38 am

      Deadwool has several, Blankline has one with a turtleneck which is great, ColdAsh, there were the old Kauna ones. And I’m sure I’m missing a few.

  41. On fleeeek says

    09/06/2020 at 4:09 pm

    Another week full of pedo and racist posts. this is some vengeful bullshit y’all laying on people, why? cus you mad?? y’all need to grow the hell up.

  42. Anti Botter says

    09/06/2020 at 3:56 pm

    #16 This person has been copying for years , Thieving Bitch , Pay for things like rest of us do!

    • Eat cookie and shut up says

      09/07/2020 at 2:57 am

      How you can tell unless you have copybot viewer or programs ?

    • The Queen says

      09/07/2020 at 5:09 am

      Butthurt cuz noone buys ur shit? and welcome to SL where millions of people look the same, so much about Copying. Creators use fullperm stuff? GOOD!!! because thats what they are for !! To use them and get creative with them. Instead of leave people alone and mind your own business u go to sl secrets hide and beein a coward, if she was stealin, copying im sure LL would have banned her already.So stop hating and jesus be with you .Amen

  43. Julia Waco says

    09/06/2020 at 3:53 pm

    #16 Dear meghan or taren or ewaelfie…u changed so many times ur name who knows how are u called right now!
    https://gyazo.com/70a0c77f8b13639757c9565d357d8b75

    Ur sucking my blood about 3 weeks now and i cannot wait to can say it in ur face in front of everybody and now here is my time … u didn’t dare to post that u are accusing me that i am copying BOM stuff… I have evidence I teached u everything u know : 
    https://gyazo.com/dfe4aa90b1cce031b8f0aa8bd05f6b53
    And now u saying I am copying mesh , sweety everything i have in my store is template, wich i bought. 
    U can find everything on MP, but u already know that!
    I only make the textures!
    With ur NOOB stuff ur ain’t good for nothing and with that u didn’t gave ur name so now let’s make clear some stuff, which u did harassed me : 

    She write this my one blogger : https://gyazo.com/9bbbbb7994e6480e919485f61a2facb4
    Strange no happened nothing? 

    TaRen Elfie
    cette pute va me le payer tres cher , ca va lui apprendre a se foutre de la gueule des gens , elle ira jouer a imvu cette pute de waco

    TaRen Elfie
    BITCH JULIA WACO WHO COPY MY CREATIONS , I WILL KICK UR ASS FROM SL YOU AND ALL UR ALTS !!!!!!!!!!!! SHAME ON YO

    Etc..

    Now that what you lie me: [2020/02/16 03:20:46] ᒍᴜʟɪᴀ (judithan): where you are live?
    [2020/02/16 03:20:54] EwaElfie Resident: USA

    https://gyazo.com/27c390712737c11aa761ec2c3969eac9

    Now who lie? 
     
     The shape copying … I have clients who come to me and i make them custom shapes as they imagine and request it to look like … u can ask them.

    Dear meghan or taran or ewaelfie…. or what’s ur name, now u will get reported for vilification.

    Hugs you!

    • researchiskey says

      09/10/2020 at 4:14 pm

      Honestly, neither of those gyazo’s prove anything. Just because you sent them doesn’t mean you made them yourself. I know a ton of people using UUIDs to remake BOM layers, others uploading editted versions something taken texture of. This is all just looks a mess of he said, she said and no proof either way. And alot ALOT of bad english hard to understand.

  44. KingTrollzAlot says

    09/06/2020 at 3:38 pm

    LOL @ Dreem! TY kid who lives off his mommy. Mommy pays people in SecondLife to make all his mesh to keep him inside because he stays getting his ass beat and cut up in real life.

  45. yw says

    09/06/2020 at 3:27 pm

    9. let me teach you something; when we zoom in on someone with the mouse, their face always deforms, but if you zoom in with CTRL + 0 you can see the true shape without deforming it. that’s why it looks different.

    • None says

      09/07/2020 at 9:28 am

      Oh trust me honey, I took the picture using the CTRL+0.
      She does not look like her pictures at all. Even her shape as very weird proportions.

  46. Spazzo says

    09/06/2020 at 3:20 pm

    #22 Where’s Casey Anthony when you need her?!

  47. The Queen says

    09/06/2020 at 2:53 pm

    #16 Its so amusing how people are one day your friend and the next day they join your haters, and have to talk crap, me i know for a fact that Julia is making all her shapes on her own, maybe try to be more creative after all the help Julia gave you to get better at what you are doin and stop talking what other people told you, that just shows how littleminded you are. You know the truth and spreading lies wont make you a better person. Lets be classy xoxo

  48. Wake Up says

    09/06/2020 at 2:41 pm

    #1 and #3 – Are you for real? It’s the same uploader from that website. The uploader is the one copybotting and reselling items he stole from SL. That is why he sells the low poly meshes and basic ass textures – it’s because he can’t copybot the original mesh or files lol only the ones uploaded to SL… It’s even clear from the pictures that it is a SL body

    • Nothing New says

      09/06/2020 at 7:02 pm

      No majority of these stores do not mesh they hire mesher’s get a fucking clue!

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 1:43 am

        Neither do Designers in RL. Just so you are aware that the “design” houses in Europe and in the US and well all over the world have a LEAD designer. That however is the one that essentially creates the footprint of how the teal should design that year. Then their secondary designers actually are the ones that design. Very few designers are like Karl Lagerfeld that designed majority of the things himself anywhere, and anywhen (his inspiration hit all the time).

        When you actually see designers, and companies in RL they do not make everything themselves. They have a team. That is how it works in rl, and how it works with SL businesses when they have to do a lot of things and lack the time. It’s almost as if people in SL want these folks to live and breathe SL and actually not sleep so that they can have 20 items a month only made by them.

      • Blaise Glendevon says

        09/08/2020 at 5:34 am

        What’s your point? They hired a mesher or a rigger – the mesh is still original and exclusive to that particular store.

    • anonymously yours says

      09/06/2020 at 9:01 pm

      Some people just cling to something thinking OMG i found the holy grail then they realize it’s just a knock off. If they look at dates they could see the sold items came out after BB.

  49. SpicySoutherner says

    09/06/2020 at 2:38 pm

    #15. Ok Captain Save-A-Hoe. Sit down before you trip over your Halloween Express cape. If we’re going to talk about FACTS here, you may wanna get all yours straight before posting a halfass blast that’s laughable at best, instead of just from the side that’s sucked more SL dick than a vacuum at a dust factory, and will continue to do so once you’re no longer useful.

    • ShineBright says

      09/06/2020 at 7:09 pm

      #15 um idk ur drama but you look bad posting someones RL in sl secrets. Isnt that why the sucide provention stuff was added beacouse of peoples RL getting leeked. Don’t they have rules on that???

      • Starfish says

        09/11/2020 at 11:11 am

        And so many terrible things happened to you because of this, right?

        What’s your name, again? I can sorta remember this … it was just a super common, not-gender-specific first name, right? No last name? And you wonder why no one cares, or even remembers it. Stop acting like it was full name, dob, and ss#.

  50. Be Less Ignorant, Please says

    09/06/2020 at 2:24 pm

    Well Nenos, you certainly made some needy cunt suuuuper salty… apparently every generic dude with dark hair, glasses, and a beard is you, now. You must be a busy motherfucker considering how many of those dudes there are. No wonder you couldn’t give that bitch as much dick as she apparently needed LOL

    • Stop making him relevant says

      09/07/2020 at 9:21 am

      Hank Foxglove, an alt of Nenos, looks similar to his main.
      Kinda Salty (OmegaDan) looks like a white guy with black skin and hair.

      These are his main alts. He uses them to contact women that he doesn’t have luck with on Nenos. They have a whole different story, catfish pictures just to see if he can get lucky. He will make up chat logs and has his alts talk to each other. He has a racial bias towards black men and will use derogatory racial slurs about them. He has problems. Be weary.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        09/08/2020 at 12:08 pm

        Like I said last week, I’ve known Nenos for about a decade. I never cared if he had alts, because I never had feelings for him. I do think anyone who has to make multiple accounts to garner the amount of attention they need is pathetic enough I’d just feel sorry for them instead of being mad about it, lacking any direct lies to me. So even IF you’re right, it’s more of a drag than a caution.

        While I’ve never heard him make a racist comment, he’s a middle aged, slightly redneckish white guy with a lot of ego tied up in the size of his dick, so it doesn’t shock me. It’s called insecurity, and it’s just another reason to pity him- IF true.

        We haven’t spoken in a long time because he expects women to throw themselves at him, even though his company isn’t that great most of the time (stop starting shit while you’re working and can’t focus or might disappear man, no one likes that). He also can’t handle being a friend without constant attention focused on him, despite his own wandering predilections and lack of initiation.

        All in all he thinks more of himself than he actually has to offer, so I don’t miss him, and neither does any woman with self-esteem. The rest are just gonna keep breaking themselves on someone’s rocks, so it might as well be his. Captain Save-a-ho is a thankless job, so you might as well quit- they don’t want your help.

      • Stop making him relevant says

        09/08/2020 at 5:40 pm

        Consider yourself lucky. Things I said all happened to me. What people do with this information is on them. I’m not a captain safe- a-ho, just a woman that dealt his alts, him, and his racial bias.

      • Nenos Rocks says

        09/09/2020 at 3:30 am

        You need to get a life you dumb ho. If you can’t smell bullshit on men like Nenos, you should not even be in SL. I swear, they should seriously start doing IQ tests so dumb, naive cry babies like you won’t be allowed in.

        Did you truly expect true love from a man like Nenos? GTFO… lol

      • Stop making him relevant says

        09/09/2020 at 8:58 am

        True love? No sweetie I denied that man on all 3 accounts even with his made up backstory and pictures. I don’t know how I am dumb and naive for leaving a warning . I guess since everyone didn’t have the same experience with him as you did they must be an ignorant dumb hoe. Ignorance is bliss isn’t it?! Continue to insult women and hide in your anonymity. Good luck!

  51. Banna says

    09/06/2020 at 2:16 pm

    33 If was doing pedo stuff got banned then second life would have ip banned him he could not make account he must have used a new ip address and using different way to pay for sl. Only thing is he will get caught if he keeps doing this they don’t allow this they gotta catch him in the act.

  52. Dumbass Bitch says

    09/06/2020 at 2:14 pm

    #15 Lmao ?????? I’m low key offended that I didn’t get roasted better than being called a dumbass by a butt hurt cunt who sucks dick to get guys to defend her. XD OK Maeve ?????????

  53. betabe says

    09/06/2020 at 2:14 pm

    32 Dead or alive why did he get reported if he stole account.

  54. Geno says

    09/06/2020 at 2:13 pm

    15 Thought real life picture were not allowed to be shown only sl pictures this look like was screen shot on discord well its only a discord name. She looks cute but is it her real photo looks like alot snap chat filter many can’t be a original she just looking for attention we can tell if she did all these things look up on second life see if this name is in profile see who it is some people put discord in profile I don’t know why. Just like in sl why do people have to copy be your self best way to be.

    • SpicySoutherner says

      09/06/2020 at 6:26 pm

      I can verify that’s her. Minor filter. Not seeking attention. The person posting the “secret” is TRYING to put her on blast cause they got caught using her original design for an ad she did, and are butthurt she called them out on it.

      • Yeet says

        09/06/2020 at 8:59 pm

        Actually not true at all, the person she called out had nothing to do with the situation

      • Wtf says

        09/06/2020 at 10:26 pm

        Proof? Also does it matter? Whoever posted #15 abused the persons rights and slsecrets allowed it to happen. What the actual fuck is wrong with you people

  55. Bena says

    09/06/2020 at 2:09 pm

    Many desginers also make things on 3d websites and sell it so they buy it from some where its sl their is a thing called full perm they have to pay for it nothing is for free. But yes if you make it takes longer to make.

  56. Nano says

    09/06/2020 at 2:07 pm

    8 How do we not know that was her receipt she did steal the photo of Instagram she was just trying to pretend to be some else people do it all the time but they don’t show the real clothes with a face they cut of the faces. Don’t believe everything you see not everyone has this kind money in sl they would even be playing sl if they got gucci.

  57. Kiria Velour says

    09/06/2020 at 2:01 pm

    You both (you know it’s for you) please stop attacking me, this is not fair. If you hate Faenzo it’s not fair attacking me with lies just because I’m helping him, I never did none of this things you guys said, just stop and leave me alone. Thanks

  58. You ain't shit either. says

    09/06/2020 at 1:50 pm

    23- You mean Basic man-ginas of SL. Ugh… they look a hot mess. chiillee.
    8- Dreem only gives a fuck about Dreem, period.

  59. Judge ‘bigbooty’ Judy says

    09/06/2020 at 1:39 pm

    2.That’s not a child, that’s just a B.W.B.

    5.Not ‘the incestor ‘?

    6.You do realize that’s an avatar and not an actual person yea? Log off SL, OP. Get some fresh air,hon.

    8. I wonder if Dreem knows they’re (bc Idk what they are and we respect pronouns) actually exhibiting Broke bitch behavior. Only people who aren’t used to having money do things like this. Just Foolish. Also, OP. That’s not their problem tbh….

    10.and the award for most stylized secret goes to….This OP.

    12.ok,but did YOU tell them?

    17.GG

    31. You must be white. Only white people want to play other races and get mad when called out about it. Yes, you CAN be whatever you want in SL, because you’re right, you’re buying your own shit, but cultural appropriation and blackface is still WRONG. Races aren’t clothes for you to try on and it’s not up to you to showcase the beauty of other races because you’ll never achieve that same level of beauty no matter how much you want to. I’m sure Asians don’t appreciate the fetishism and appropriation of their ethnicity/culture by someone weirdo who says “There’s beauty in all race. I’m gonna appropriate anyway” tone down the entitlement,lov.

    *bangs gavel*

    • iced coffee says

      09/06/2020 at 10:03 pm

      @31:
      White? Yes. Mad? At the time I was hot. The secret was made in response to Adele getting shit for having her hair in Bantu Knots. I feel I was just upset because if I wanted to have my avatar’s hair in Bantu Knots or whatever style that is open for purchase in Second Life, then I would without someone screaming at me, saying it wasn’t made for my race.

      That, to me, feels like someone saying: “You can’t wear that, you’re a girl!”

      • WhatIsYourDamageHeather says

        09/07/2020 at 6:37 am

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

        Gods, you wannabe white knights are pathetic.

    • Alexander says

      09/06/2020 at 10:23 pm

      Your comment on #31 gave me a hearty chuckle. The fact you opened with ‘you must be white’ had me rolling because that is the most depressing thing I have ever seen. Cultural appropriation is a joke in this context and is only used because people lack any sort of reason to be upset and, thus, make up some nonsense about culture, despite the fact the world has actively pushed for people to get out and experience and embrace other cultures. The funny thing is that culture is not attributed to race at all, it is based on province and location. If a white person is born in Africa because their parents lived there, they will probably grow up with African culture. Just because someone is white does not mean they cannot wear certain things or whatever because some lonely old woman is going to scream ‘cultural appropriation’ the second she sees dreadlocks or anything else stereotypical.

      If people want to roleplay a black person, why can they not? We have hit the stage where people get abused for trying to voice black characters when they are white. Not even for profit, just for fun. I know many black people who play a white person yet I have never once said nothing to them because I am not a moron. If they want to be a white boy, then let them. It does not affect you.

      Likewise, races may not be clothes, but cultural appropriation oft is due to clothes/hairstyles. Remember when Cardi B got attacked for wearing Egyptian inspired clothes despite the fact that it fit the theme for the video?

      Now, Asians do not care – at least the ones I speak to – about people using their culture. Fetishizing something is not the same as cultural appropriation. Japanese, for example, see more profit from anime from white people, thus they market a lot of it to white people. Likewise, yaoi is more commonly bought by females rather than gay men. Although, Japan itself is very homophobic to the point they would ban it completely if gay men started buying it.

      The only race that seems to care when people wear their clothes or experience their culture is black people. Debatable, no?

    • Petunia says

      09/06/2020 at 11:59 pm

      When black women stop straightening their hair and dyeing it blonde then I will give your cultural appropriation argument some weight.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 1:47 am

        While I am ambivalent about cultural appropriation. Because I think that society has always pushed the major countries and their cultures onto the ones that were “lesser” to the imperialistic ones. And as a hispanic I actually like it when Americans get some of the cultural stuff and use it because they adapt and actually start to change in mindset about folks that aren’t of their mindset. And because as a hispanic I do not feel inferior to a white person, on the contrary lol, I think our history and culture is rich enough and historically important enough to balance the white-centric one: the whole point of cultural appropriation is the cultures that were racist towards other, that were imperialistic toward the others to use items from the other cultures, especially for instance an American or British person using something that holds significant importance for that culture. Such as a religious one.

      • And I Oop says

        09/07/2020 at 1:56 am

        Blonde and straight hair is not exclusive to Europeans, you ignorant cunt.

      • Petunia says

        09/07/2020 at 3:51 am

        It’s not “culturally” a black thing either. I shall refrain from name calling as it really is the lowest form of debate.

      • And I Oop says

        09/07/2020 at 11:07 am

        The color of your hair and whether it is straight, curly, or coily has nothing to do with this “debate”. There are many with naturally straight hair in the Ethiopians, Eritreans, and others. There’s a few tribes of people with naturally blonde hair that they discovered had nothing to do with white men raping their way in. However ,many cultures have hairstyles that are important to them but going around and saying stuff like “sTOP sTRaIghtEniNg yOuR hAIR n dYNIng BlONdE u R aPprOPIATINg oUR wHITe cULtURe” is quite ignorant.

    • Common Sense says

      09/07/2020 at 1:55 am

      Actually about this: I used to work with Indians and I asked them if they minded me asking for sarees and bracelets and their jewelry to wear. If they found it offensive. I being an hispanic wanted to confirm if it was to them. They actually liked it, they in fact brought me things for free, and would tell me what they were and show me how to wear them. It really depends on what is being used, and if they want to give it to you. And yes, I’m hispanic but I have Spanish blood and Spain did conquer much of the world similar to the British population and in fact if you want to blame anyone more for the slaves within the US than the British Empire it would be the Spanish Empire. Put it this way, I don’t mind an American using things from my own country of origin, nor do my parents. Because we never saw ourselves as inferior to the British Empire even if we were constantly at war. And even if I do have Northern Moroccan blood, and am a downright mix of races from all over Europe and South America. Isn’t in a weird way actually racist to not want to learn about other cultures and acquire cultural items from other countries if they actually want us to? Because here’s the thing with saying, you can’t wear a cheonsam dress for instance of a Guayabera shirt: if each culture stays secular, and only uses what their own culture has. Then ultimately that’s actually not a global society but a separationist. Especially given that in modern world the US and Britain are pushing their culture to the rest of the world due to being Political Superpowers and Cultural ones. This is why Indians do not see it the same, they do not see themselves as inferior to Americans or British. They know their history is much more rich and cultured than that of Americans whom are a new country, and the British that were conquered by Rome during the time India was still it’s own Empire. The same as China. They do not see themselves as inferior to the US. Most do not either way.

      • WhatIsYourDamageHeather says

        09/07/2020 at 6:36 am

        There is a HUGE difference between buying culture-specific clothing from people who are from that culture and appropriation. Appropriation is more like copybotting. The creator didn’t consent, the botter didn’t do any of the work to understand what they’re ripping off, and what they sell is clearly cheap imitations with no respect for the creator. And before any triggered bigot tries whining about cultures not being owned, can that shit now. Cultures are created and maintained by people. If they can’t exert some control over who gets to do what with it, you are arguing against copyright law. Individuals and groups maintain control while they live (and beyond in many countries). Living cultures are just larger groups.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 3:32 pm

        Well thing is that as someone who is hispanic I can claim that if you wear an all-white outfit with beads in your hand you are appropriating my culture. (Or paying a ridiculous amount to be “cleansed” of bad spirits in a gimmick religion). Yet in the sense of my country we don’t care. I guess because we actually charge a hefty fee for those that come in and do that service. I think it really depends on the actual culture and on a one by one basis. If you ask one person in a country they will think it’s wrong, someone else within that same country and they wont care. However, there’s a huge difference between things that are worn by certain and specifically important people within that culture. For instance, the clothes of the tribal leaders. Definitely that is completely disrespectful. Why? Not even they themselves all use it. Only specific individuals based on their cultural importance within that society wear them.

        Here we are debating cultural appropriation when in Africa there is a huge problem with women buying whitening products to actually change their skin color because of the obsession with white skin. We may actually need to focus on much more important things such as racism that has been living within our societies, our own thought that the white culture is superior to all else (which actually both the left and the right side of politics tends to have when you want to make decisions for minorities). I’m not saying one should shame folks like Kim Kardashian when they ridicule a culture to make money off of it. Even though in essence she’s actually a mix of cultures herself. However, I think it is important that we do not get stuck on this within SL which is a land where we are supposed to be anonymous and by the very definition of the game do anything unless it is against laws and TOS.

        And quit trying to call everyone bigots. Speak without disrespecting someone else. Have you actually marched or sent letters to Congress in order to push for legislative changes to police office works here? Are you raving mad over this whole Trump showmanship to remove anti-racist classes within Federal jobs, and his push to change how our history is being taught in order to essentially hide all of the country’s stains? Maybe, but again that is where the REAL problem is in this country. Picking on someone within sl, whom you have no idea about in rl is nonsensical.

    • Common Sense says

      09/07/2020 at 1:56 am

      Second the whole point of Second life is that this isn’t real life which means that if things aren’t illegal. Go and do whatever you want. WHO ARE YOU to judge others in this game?

    • Abfab Hax says

      09/07/2020 at 8:21 am

      If cultural appropriation is wrong, then why do blacks ALLOW the asian’s to control 80% of the black hair market in RL? That is just a fact. You have no right to tell anyone what they can, can’t wear when that kind of shit is happening in the background. You, yourself have opened your own wallet to the fleecing of your own race and you probably have done it hundreds of times.

    • A-Kid says

      09/08/2020 at 9:50 pm

      #31 for the sake of the readers, what in your opinion is okay? Honest question, this is a topic that should be discussed.

      Can a black person have a white avatar?
      Can a white person have a black avatar?
      Can an Asian person have a white avatar?
      Can a Hispanic person have a black avatar?
      Can a black person have an Asian avatar?
      Can a white person have a mixed race avatar?
      Can anyone who isn’t mixed race have a mixed race avatar?
      Can an Asian person have a Native American avatar?
      Can a Native American have a black avatar?
      Should people be limited to only the race they are in real life?
      What if they’re roleplaying? Should they only stick to characters who share their skin color (ie only a white person could have an avatar of Daenerys Targaryen and only a Asian person should have an avatar of Sailor Moon)?

    • researchiskey says

      09/08/2020 at 11:22 pm

      Actually quite wrong. Asians don’t give a rats ass and believe in spreading their culture as widely as possible. They welcome anyone to “appropriate” because it not only draws attention to their history in which they are vastly proud people, it also shows honor and respect when done properly. Asians market their own culture on purpose.

      How much do you actually know about so called culture you are saying you are? Why can I assume this question? Your opening statement “must be white”. Answer? Very little , if anything at all aside what learned in schoolbooks like everyone else. You are a black-skinned person most likely raised in a lower income community. You have never seen nor witnessed any form as true African culture. Never left anything that is American. I can take a guess that you have never done a genelogy test you honestly do not know even what genetics are made of, much less any knowledge if even slightly related to anyone came from africa. So who is truely “appropiating” here. The people acknowledging are not this but generally just saying beautiful so having avatar to look at on screen, or the person behaving, speaking for, and protraying themself as if it is who they are when isn’t?

      The single only “race” that screams black face is american. Most of whom know absolutely nothing about the “culture” they claim to be protecting. Culture is not determined by your skin color. It is determined by your beliefs, your history as a people. I am sorry but most blacks in American have zero ideal about African anything. They are american, that is their culture. American. Not African, Not this or that just because of skin color african americans are those descendant from Africa. NOT all black people are btw and not all Africans are black just for a slide in thought there.

      When someone chooses to extend their avatar to something other their flesh blood appearance it is not appropriation of anything. Little fact, did you know someone never having been to africa, never having been raised by the culture, knows little of the culture itself or villages or religions that throws on a busuti is “apropriating that culture” even if you are black skinned?

    • Another Ban Bitterwick player says

      09/10/2020 at 10:57 am

      GG to what? A one sided account that isn’t even true? Its their sim, they can ban who they want for whatever even if the person/s in question didn’t do anything wrong. Go to bloodstone and look at their Ban list, or ask anyone who’s ever been to that sim and they’ll tell you how trash the admins were at that place. Good riddance, we don’t need sims like that.

  60. Dexters Wife says

    09/06/2020 at 1:30 pm

    #29 LOL straight facts. This manchild in his adult diapers can’t stop spewing racist shit.

  61. lol says

    09/06/2020 at 1:09 pm

    #33 is that also einfahrt.resident/falcon.banx/callum and jonas? thx.

  62. Ranae Quinn says

    09/06/2020 at 12:57 pm

    #1 … Another coward whose jealous of a true talented creator and is trying to tear them down instead of trying to make their own success….. go crawl under a rock you mouth breathing troglodyte. I’d trust Blueberry 10000% over an anonymous tw@t like you

    • CD Copied another says

      09/06/2020 at 1:18 pm

      Did you hear her say on her stream that she doesn’t like showing her process because she is too self conscious? If you believe she makes her own meshes you are the fool.

      • Sickofit says

        09/06/2020 at 1:21 pm

        No she doesn’t. Litteraly ALL of her mesh is outsourced with a “ghostcreator”. One of her “team members” meshes and rigs for her…

      • CD Copied another says

        09/06/2020 at 1:25 pm

        No one goes from template store to releasing one full outfit a week with all that content included in it. Learning meshing is a process that happens over time. It’s not like you take a test and pass it and become a mesher suddenly can make anything and everything instantly. Not to mention the volume of her releases were just too much for one person to be making it all.

      • Abfab Hax says

        09/06/2020 at 1:37 pm

        Um she also has a family that expanded this year too. That right there that is taking considerable time away from creating.

      • nomnoms says

        09/06/2020 at 1:41 pm

        non creators are unwilling to use intelligence to understand what you 3 are saying.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 2:02 am

        I worked in retail for ten years. Within a company, I know how things work. I guess these never worked a day in their life in rl for any clothing company or never actually read any magazines on how designers work.

      • CD Copied another says

        09/07/2020 at 2:21 am

        How designers irl work is not even close to how digital content and digital artists work. You are in two completely different territories both in the eyes of the law and procedure.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 3:40 pm

        I don’t think you quite understood the logic I used because you clearly want to continue to bash that creator. Some designers within RL were not college educated into design. They were children of seamstresses and as such grew into that talent themselves. They sometimes in their own country had their own business as well. They would design a piece by painting it in paper, they would sew it, and then they would essentially piece it together. Of course the whole design business within rl always embodies several individuals within that process, a team. You can’t create 100 dresses yourself from scratch and sell them. You need folks. So you commission a factory to make the pieces, while you make the designs. Or once you get rather huge and you no longer do just clothes, but shoes and purses, you make a creative team with other designers as well. However, SL isn’t 100% different. If you are a good texturer, you meet someone that is a good mesher and you work with them. However, if the business grows as Blueberries has pushed hers to grow you will need not just one mesher but several meshers. And you may also need someone to assist with textures. I don’t see where this is soo different. No one actually has a law within SL that means that you yourself have to be the mesh maker and the texturer for your products. That your label does, yes.

        If you were to actually sit and look into every SL store you would find that many of the larger brands aren’t just one person. So if you don’t like that, leave SL. Or learn to make your own mesh, since clearly you apparently do.

      • CD Copied another says

        09/06/2020 at 1:43 pm

        Who knows.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 2:02 am

        Remember the teens in sl because I swear they can’t be over 23 due to their lack of common sense which one develops through age and wisdom block them from seeing that once stores reach a certain level in sl (and in rl) they have to actually hire other people. I guess they want people to work like slaves just to make original content that doesn’t look like anyttthing every made in RL.

      • nomnoms says

        09/06/2020 at 1:26 pm

        how is it jealousy when they provided proof? you still can’t explain it away no matter how many juvenile insults you hurl. lol

      • ShineBright says

        09/06/2020 at 9:29 pm

        who cares if someone elses meshs it and rigs it that is like half the creators in sl do u think the owner of mad pea makes any of there own shit? ..no its a team of ppl and half of it is purchased mesh from other websites …litterlay who cares as long as its good quality…no one is forceing u to buy it

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 2:00 am

        Okay newsflash: Unless a creator uses their own name for a brand. I think it’s always a company/style of product. Meaning: it may start with one person when they begin, but the fact is that once they become larger and need to commit to more fulfillment they hire others in SL. DUH. Just like they do in RL.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        09/06/2020 at 2:15 pm

        “Original mesh” does not mean the SL seller sat in Blender or Maya and made it themselves. It means that it is exclusive to their store, and not being sold full perm. I’ve known for years Blue had a team of meshers just like most of the people who shop there. The thing that matters is no one else has the exact same meshes and that they are very high quality. It’s you who is the fool for thinking anyone would care about someone as talented as her working in a team.

      • Nothing New says

        09/06/2020 at 7:03 pm

        So basically your not original then lmao! You went found a picture and paid someone to make it for you. Would not call that ORIGINAL! dumdideedee

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 1:59 am

        Then no designer is original… stupid. Designers in RL are actually a whole company with several designers and one spearheading an idea. But I guess you do love your Kate Spade bags and your Gucci clothes right? You must be 10 years old when you don’t have the common sense to see that SL and RL have to be similar once you enter into a larger type of company. WTF do you want for these creators to do? Sit all day and night to make fully original stuff that’s never existed before? Dumbasses.

      • Be Less Ignorant, Please says

        09/07/2020 at 4:45 am

        You type like a literal retard. That is all.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 4:00 pm

        Oh well you look at that, that means 99.9% of SL and RL products are not original.

      • Mira says

        09/06/2020 at 5:59 pm

        Too right, that girl doesn’t make her own meshes at all. No way in hell can someone crank out a new release every week near enough, spend all her time on social media, look after a new born baby and let’s not forget she’s apparently bored and creating a whole new RL brand, so yeah she really makes her own meshes.

        Oh and let’s not forget she’s just announced she’s gonna make hair with another person being her mesher so she can focus on her own clothing meshing.

        Pull the other one, it’s got bells on it *rolls eyes*

      • atom says

        09/08/2020 at 12:20 am

        her releases have slowed down considerably since having a baby…

        Either she is doing much more in the process than sending someone a picture and saying “Make this”

        Or shes faking slowing down her releases to fool you into thinking shes making her own mesh….

        Lets use logic here though… shes probably doing most of the work herself if having a baby makes her go to 1-2 releases a month down from 3-4 a month before the baby…

        Or just keep hating away 🙂

  63. Abfab Hax says

    09/06/2020 at 12:55 pm

    #8 – This is just tacky. People with real money, don’t flaunt it like this. Also there is a boycott going on with Gucci over that “blackface” shirt they did this year. Don’t support brands that do that shit.
    #10 – I do love submissions like this. Good font, love the border. It’s small shit like this that makes me happy. I have no idea who this secret is about. lol
    #21 – Always nice to see a positive secret!!
    #30 – Is there any way we can stop with the “my queens” or “my gays”. You don’t own them, they are not yours. Why do people not know this??

    • Habibi says

      09/10/2020 at 2:03 am

      #10 a good slut. Trust me!

  64. nomnoms says

    09/06/2020 at 12:54 pm

    #1 I guess this squashes the rumors that Kess is paid to protect blueberry. 2nd week in a row.

    #20 You’re a whole idiot. You can literally change the shine to 0 (zero). If the object is no mod, it would have taken you less time and energy to request a no shine / mod version than to photoshop such a moronic secret.

  65. Areyouserious?!? says

    09/06/2020 at 12:53 pm

    #1 #3 Do you realize the thief is the person listing those mesh on cgtrader and NOT Blueberry or Mossu? All the items from this store is copybotted from Secondlife. Wake up …… pls …. wake up…

    • Nothing New says

      09/06/2020 at 7:06 pm

      Or its the custom mesh er they paid to make it lmao. Ask her to logon blender and mesh something with the camera pointed over her shoulder at the screen. Blueberry the i am to self conscious to show my process BITCH PLEASE!

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 2:05 am

        If she actually admits it’s a company many of you who think designers in SL should not sleep but constantly make clothes all day and night would stop to buy her items because you are “elitists”. I really don’t care lol. I don’t like her clothes and if I have four pieces from her it’s too much (because I tend to prefer a bit more coverage). But I see the idiocy in comments here all the time. As if, they must cut their veins and sacrifice their lives to make items that have never been seen in a pinterest or have never existed in anywhere else. Newsflash: even designers copy one another. That DVF dress that was classified as the Original wrap dress lol, she copied it from the 1930s. I saw a wrap dress in a vintage film from that time and went, “wait a minute, so Diane Von Furstenberg, who wants to copyright clothes, actually copied a dress from here! LOL!” Nothing is original in fashion, all you need to do is look through old Vogues and start to compare clothes throughout the eras. Futuristic? Paco Rabanne did it years back.

      • CD Copied another says

        09/08/2020 at 3:15 am

        She claims on FB that she meshes all her own stuff.

      • Sickofit says

        09/08/2020 at 7:14 am

        LMAO @ that. I actually know who meshes most of her stuff other than the mesh files she purchases, Kitsune Shan.

      • researchiskey says

        09/08/2020 at 10:57 pm

        Kitsune rigs, and for tracking record Kitsune also helped rig Maitreya hence all fucked up. try on Kitsune own works, rigging is just as fucked up

      • Kitsune Shan says

        09/09/2020 at 11:54 am

        Since people it’s bringing my name here…
        No, I do not mesh for Blueberry. Blueberry do all of her meshes, I can tell because they are share similarities that you can see when you are a professional on the field. You can also see that the bakes and textures have similar types of shadows, clearly that shows that they all comes from the same person. If the person who made the post were smart enough they could even see that the avatar wearing the dress in that website it’s also a stolen mesh body from SL.

        Also, no, I didn’t skinned Maitreya body. I have worked for Maitreya (and some other big SL brands) in the past but I did not skinned that body.

        I am also very confident of my works in SL otherwise no one would have bought things from the stores that I worked for (stores that manage to reach big popularity due my skinning works). I am not sure what you mean by “Kitsune own works” since you can’t wear anything made by myself, I have no clothing store in SL at all. So I am guessing people it’s just throwing lies out of being jaleous.

        Regards ♥´-

  66. Blaise Glendevon says

    09/06/2020 at 12:40 pm

    #1 – another round of secrets that doesn’t include when the object was uploaded to that website vs. when it was launched in SL? You’re trying it, aren’t you?

    • researchiskey says

      09/06/2020 at 1:17 pm

      They are lying. This Rajawali is on a few sites with copybot items. The items usually vanish quickly. Example he is no longer on CGTrader but can find a single item on RenderHub obviously again stolen. As its dated well after the item released inworld.

    • thepotismine says

      09/06/2020 at 2:11 pm

      Or the ghost creator is indeed selling them on the side too.

  67. No one says

    09/06/2020 at 12:29 pm

    #19 fucking tiddle widdles is so obsessed with Paradox Mercury. No one cares. stfu

    • cheezynibbles says

      09/06/2020 at 3:12 pm

      Especially considering Paradox already told everyone the money won’t be there until Sept 10th and I believe him. Why would he tell people it’s coming and then not show the receipts? Tiddles is his ex partner and is clearly just bitter over their breakup.

  68. Anonymous Content says

    09/06/2020 at 12:23 pm

    #1 Wow, that is pretty damning if it is true. To be honest, I for one have wondered for years how that particular store has managed to be so prolific with the full on releases. I am salivating, waiting for the denials and explanations about this juicy bit of tea spillage.

    • Caiti Mirabella says

      09/06/2020 at 12:36 pm

      Blue herself has told everyone she has a team of meshers and she focuses on the texturing. That’s how she does her full releases.

      • OmO says

        09/06/2020 at 2:01 pm

        i can vouch (not that it’s worth anything) that years ago i raided with Mishi and got to know her without knowing that she was one of the BB creators. that conversation came up many months after. it’s my understanding her partner handles the meshing/rigging and she handles the texturing and marketing etc. and i’m sure like many other stores they have a team working under them to assist, but i’m pretty sure that given she had no reason to lie or try to flex about BB (it was LITERALLY just starting at the time as mesh had just been added to SL and the store wasn’t blown up, just another no-name store gaining some traction) and that she was telling the truth when she said that they worked as a pair to make the content. like i said not that my word means anything but there wasn’t any reason for her to lie or try to make something of herself to me because the store at the time wasn’t even really happening and she didn’t know the extent of my own involvement in SL but yeah. wouldn’t surprise me if the website version was a rip, or was an offshoot for them to make more money off the models on the side.

      • CD Copied another says

        09/06/2020 at 10:43 pm

        I don’t think Samwell Tarly of BB meshes shit or knows how to.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 2:13 am

        Regardless of whether she does or doesn’t. That’s not the point in this argument. The point is whether her brand was ripped, or whether her brand ripped the other one. And since several people not just one but several have said the items from Mossu and Blueberry were uploaded in CGTrader months after SL. Then technically that means that Blueberry is in the victim side in all of this. Whether it is a pissed of rigger, which in theory shouldn’t have released the mesh if there was a contract with Blueberry (and most business DO have a form of contract) or if someone ripped them. Whatever it is, the one at fault is the one at CGTrader.
        For all I care, you seem to really hate her guts to the point you keep bashing her. I may not like her clothes or get all her fame considering I do not like that style of clothes and prefer more conservative pieces, but I do not bash her designs to the point where I look like I may be a poster. To each their own when it comes to fashion.

      • CD Copied another says

        09/07/2020 at 3:01 pm

        For someone who is using the name “Common Sense” You really do lack a lot of it. I hope you realize that the rl equivalent of SL designing is not fashion nor your dollar store cashier experience, it’s game/film/vfx industry. dumb dumb dumb.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 3:57 pm

        The fact that you don’t realize that even within game/film industries there are multiple individuals doing projects is astounding. And no, you are applying gaming rules to a game which is applying RL concepts within it. SL isn’t just a regular game. By the way, for the record: you clearly think you are sooo smart but you’ve actually not even seen how design teams work within larger corporations and or Design houses. Newsflash they are not just designing clothes within paper like you think, they already use their design teams to mock up the prototypes of the clothes within them. And no nincampoop Dollar store buys from vendors. If you actually cared to make accurate comparisons rather that get butt hurt that some one things differently to you you’d actually shut up.

        Newsflash: real virtual worlds actually have a team that work on creating all of the meshes within it. They rigorously test them, they make sure that the FPS and CPUs behave well with ALL of the elements.
        Newsflash: SL is an Open-source Platform. Which means YOU as the creator make the content. Who says that they must all be Digital Artists and have years of University on it to make content within this game. This is why some of these creations are actually cumbersome for PCs and lower your FPS.
        Newsflash: SL never put a rule that a store must just be one content creator. Tell me is there a law there somewhere? Does it specifically state that YOU must be the sole proprieter, mesher, modeler, rigger, and texturer? Does it?

        Then no, you prove my argument even if you actually want to contradict me. Forget all about VR and other worlds and THEIR rules. The laws of Linden Labs are the ones that matter. This is why most stores are actually TEAMS once they reach a specific level or from the very get-go. The rules are basically simple: if your team copybots or acquires mesh from a 3rd party site, then the risk is on you. And as with ALL business transactions if one pisses someone off, prepare because they can use that against you in the future. (Which is why it’s always best to do these business deals with someone that you are very very familiar with and may actually even know in rl). http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Intellectual_Property Nowhere does it state that you must be a one person team. Until SL defines that within their policies and goes against it. It is still fair within the game itself. And to be frank, it is what is pushing the game economy so they aren’t going to touch it.

      • Customer 28911 says

        09/07/2020 at 7:00 am

        What confuses me is that a while ago ( 2 years? ) she let people sign up to give them a free class on mesh clothes creation. I didn’t bother, cause I suck at everything I attempt, but I showed my bf at the time and he did put his name down. Nothing came from it, off course, but he remembers this as well. Why does BB even offer this if she doesn’t create herself?

      • CD Copied another says

        09/07/2020 at 6:07 pm

        Why did nothing come of it? The answer to your question is the question itself.

    • Just a thought says

      09/06/2020 at 12:44 pm

      Honestly this is probably a similar situation to Genus where someone copybotted the meshes and is now reselling then. Blueberry especially has a professional game designer as a husband and is highly talented in this field. I truly doubt she would every purchase a pre-made item.

      • Common Sense says

        09/07/2020 at 2:09 am

        What about Tetra? Anyone looked for the dates on that one?

    • Blaise Glendevon says

      09/06/2020 at 12:49 pm

      The explanation was already given on the Blueberry social media. These items were uploaded after they launched in SL and sold by a person without the permission to do so.

    • Blueberry Fan says

      09/06/2020 at 12:57 pm

      There is a post on Gizim Mishi’s FB page addressing all of this.

    • nomnoms says

      09/06/2020 at 12:57 pm

      i’m assuming they will say that they sell the actual models on that open source site?

    • Areyouserious?!? says

      09/06/2020 at 12:58 pm

      …. don’t salivate too much. The thief is the cgtrader vendor.. his store is full of copybotted dae from secondlife.

    • Just saying... says

      09/06/2020 at 1:08 pm

      Apparently the person who keeps posting these “secrets” has been harassing BB. Meanwhile, Blueberry has been trying to get those files taken down because they were pirated from SL. There is a DMCA in the works, which she did give a statement about, a little over a week ago. Also note, the #3 secret is the same as #1. It appears the same person who has been harassing BB is also trying to harass Mossu.

    • Just saying... says

      09/06/2020 at 1:21 pm

      I went over to CGTrader and Renderhub, where this “creator” sells the items. All the models from Blueberry and the model that is shown here by Mossu, have all been taken down. The individual who is posting these “secrets”, took those grabs before the DMCA take downs were done. For all we know, since the secrets are sent in anonymously, it could be this rajawali person sending the secrets in because they are butthurt they were caught? It’s a possibility.

    • Common Sense says

      09/07/2020 at 2:08 am

      Several individuals have already said the items within CGTrader had load dates from after SL’s release date. So it couldn’t have been copied from CGTrader if the dates were after SL’s. Whether it is someone that worked for Blueberry and is pissed with her…. I don’t care. I don’t expect her to make every piece of clothes and item. I’m not an idiot.

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