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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.
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You ain't shit either. says
13 – Really Dany Serenity? Funny you call black women gorillas. Yet, your avatar looks nothing like your RL ” Heifer from Rocko’s modern life ” looking ass. But your avatar looks “basic” as all catwa bitches do and ” ran through” if you get what I mean?
29 – Laquisha? What did yall expect? David, not to be racist? He’s just a racist as Revoul and Heather. Stop supporting racist, problem solved.
TalkToTheHand says
43: Means to be speaking negatively. Not just at all.
DONE says
OK I’M TOO LAZY 2 MAKE A SECRET, BUT STOP FUCKING MAKING UNOPTIMIZED CONTENT OR REZZING ACTUAL MESH FOR PREVIEWS AT EVENTS, NO ONE CAN FUCKING MOVE.
LilObserver says
Or people can stop cramming into events without alphaing themselves. No one cares how cute you think you look. You’re probably blocking the displays with your 20gallon ass anyway.
Obviously says
omg#8 Paula! her facebook is literally my favourite as she truely does not give a fuck.about any of it. or any of you XD she cracks me the fuck up
You're Lame says
#40 – You dumb ass who the hell zooms up underneath someone’s head to look at them?
You sound like a low-life looking for a reason to post on here..Go away =/
Dan RidiculouslyMasculineTryHardName says
4: Dan DJ Divine, who actually calls themselves something so ridiculous. If you’ve ever come across this insignificant flea dick, you’ll know exactly how spiteful he is. Does zero for the gay community he only stroke is own out of proportion ego. He will get in you IMs and berate you with every derogatory word for gay make that ever existed before super-flamingly announcing that he’s blocked you. Which would be a blessing only he’s back again with more, seconds later.
Once you block him he stalks you with many alts, all with similar last names and his trademark roided aesthetic look.
Steer clear of this tiny headed thing. He’s only important in his own mind and on his own sim.
Now let’s see his alts reply below.
EyeRoll says
DJ Stephen Root would be a better name. Fuck that dude is creepy. Rage, where the mid 90s never died.
yep says
Dan Hax is proof that someone can be a total, complete and most deliberately cruel asshole.. and STILL somehow manage to attract some people to his pathetic existence. No accounting for taste.
Eugh says
*For the pedo posts* REPORT THEM!!! Don’t just bitch about them on virtual secrets. REPORT. THEM. Go above and beyond than just right click + report. Call LL, send them an email, draw attention to their nasty behavior to people who can actually get them off this platform!!!
Sincerely,
Someone who’s gotten a handful of nasty ass pedos banned for life!
sim crasher says
yeah no the pedos will be back just like boyd doghouse lawlypants1390 1390 accounts he’s made so far and harrison digfoot banning them does not seem to do shit and at this point i do not think the lindens care
Panda says
#5 Sorry i hurted you i was angry this day i say stuff. i have big heart and fogrive, even if my heart hurt. please talk to me im not bad person.
AnimeIsLame says
Hurted isn’t a word. I believe the word you’re looking for is “hurt”
Turned up says
Obsessed much? “stalker alert”
AnimeIsLame says
Wat? Are you retarded? Also proof?
Panda says
I dnt have prove anything to anyone. i am truthful person. just because no proof dont mean it dont happen.
basic b says
omg no, truthful is not you. liar, stalker, obsessed with a dash of crazy is more your piece of cake, but honey i’m sure your crazy azz won’t leave him alone until he has to report you, you really need help.
Friend says
Wtf who ever try act like her needs to stop
Friend says
Ummm why you trying act like her
EyeRoll says
It is difficult to translate you post from babygirl doggo. So, you sleep with this dude behind their husband’s back and you have a big heart? Hmmm, nope just makes you just as big of an asshole.
basic b says
Oh please, you post here about Shadow ,”claiming you slept with him” maybe just rejected by the way your acting. girly desperation is never cute. move on.
red flag says
“observer” the guy is married to another “guy” and he’s into “guys” next time choose straight and you wont get your heart “hurt” rofl
Friend says
Guys need stop picking on the poor little girl becasue messing up her head and that not her some one try act like her who ever try act like her sick ? in the head
James RH. says
You harassed me trying to break my marriage with my wife, guess you found another couple to harass.
Harassment can take many forms. Communicating or behaving in a manner that is offensively coarse, intimidating, threatening, or causes annoyance or alarm is not allowed.
for example !!!
[2020/03/01 13:12] ღwonton soup ღ (iprincessisela): ….im sorry really sorry …. making you hate me stuff also …. hugs you tight
[2020/03/01 13:24] ღwonton soup ღ (iprincessisela): Soo you think I’m crazy I am crazy lolol but you never see the good side of me always the bad
[2020/03/21 13:24] ღwonton soup ღ (iprincessisela): i nevre stop until … you are with me
[2020/03/21 13:25] ღwonton soup ღ (iprincessisela): eben if i have to die
[2020/03/21 13:25] ღwonton soup ღ (iprincessisela): and never stop …. I will destroy you and your wife
[2020/03/23 15:36] Second Life: You have blocked this Resident. Sending a message will automatically unblock them.
[2020/04/03 14:31] ღwonton soup ღ (iprincessisela): paid you L$1.
Friend says
She never said that she was friends with you but you delete her words put yours make it look like she said it
Friend says
So doesn’t sound like her
friend says
doesn’t sound like her you can just copy her name put it in your words
You ain't shit either. says
@James RH: She sounds desperate.. there are females like that online so.. they shouldn’t always blame the man.
Friend says
Who this person try be stop acting like her
Ely says
31. Not sure what you mean? That post doesn’t really make sense. Enchantment has been a hot mess the last few rounds, so I checked to see what you were talking about. On looking around at the sim, it’s probably the best layout they’ve had in like four rounds, and content wise there seems to be some cute stuff. I get that their event goes up and down in quality but this round has been better than usual. Not sure what you’re going on about tbh.
Pocketsand says
Well there were only two stores that weren’t in theme with their items that I could see, so that’s an improvement at least?
AnimeIsLame says
Apparently the paedophile that runs this site lets the paedophiles false flag so repost sucked in nonces
1. I knew a 17 year old who used SL. It’s perfectly fine and legal for them to play?
2. How in any way does this resemble a child you gimp.
3. Catwa in general is ugly and a scam.
4. No idea who or what this is about.
4. Who cares?
5. Why should we care?
6. Bento is probably the worst thing to happen to this dead game. Just deterrs it even more and gives
Creators more reason to make ugly avatars/skins.
7. Simp.
8. Obsessive ex bitch.
9. Upset that he fucked you off cause you ran out of lindens?
10. Does anyone care?
11. Dog filter is cancer LMAO. I don’t even use snapchat anymore or at all.
12. It’s an opinion everyones entitled to one
13-17. Nobody rigs/makes mesh lets face it. They steal from 3d modelling sites. There’s no such thing as a legitimate mesh creator.
18. I know alot of sims that do this shit and honestly, aslong as it isn’t used to do anything to the traffic it’s perfectly fine I’m not sure if that strue or not,
19-20 Skin creators have no inspiration.
21. Probably a trans dude.
22. Should be the other way around lel
23. No idea
24. Can’t even read that red text.
25. Rumor has it this dudes in the ABDL community and has been affiliated with a renouned pedophile/ageplayer
Named andy.
41. THICC
43. Genus is going full damage control.
46 Stop using the race card.
Abfab Hax says
You totally forgot #48. It’s a secret about your desperation. You won’t be able to see it, but the rest of us can.
AnimeIsLame says
Stalker and paedophile above ^
Oprah says
#1 – The good old witty comment ‘n block.
#2 – Watch out, we have a boss around here that is gonna lay down the rules…
#3 – Can’t argue with that, a face only a mother could love.
#4 – Who ever these are.
#5 – Your standard of writing makes my head hurt, you didn’t even included the name, that look is about 1/3 of the guys in SL, or are you making a social commentary on the personalities behind that look?
#6 – Who ever this is…
#7 – Some heads are better built than others.
#8 – I don’t think she’s trying to impress you.
#9 – Yawn.
#10 – Sounds like you got dumped and aren’t handling your new found single status with the most grace.
#11 – Oh no, not Denny… who ever that is…
#12 – Maybe, who knows, it’s a crazy world out there.
#13 – Yawn…
#14 – That’s actually a good question, although if they would be working together I don’t think a brand needs to apply per team member, not to mention everyone can get that shit easy and not just to water down dev kits, the actually mesh that people wear.
#15 – Next…
#16 – We get it…
#17 – For fuck sake…
#18 – Busted.
#19 – What ever the fuck are you actually complaining about?
#20 – Alright in here you do have a point.
#21 – So forgettable I already forgot.
#22 – That was kinda funny, and true, Catwa heads are at the low end right now with so much great stuff coming out of other brands, are you shaking yet?
#23 – Is this place still a thing?
#24 – Damn I missed it.
#25 – Throw him in jail and lose the key.
#26 – Could have used a better picture to make a point, but sure.
#27 – That’s what you get when you claim you are all original with your copies, should have said “LuluB copied from RL first!”
#28 – Why would you even bother with that group?
#29 – This is why you shouldn’t get high before making your secrets…
#30 – Ooh I like where this is going, there was definitely rumors how Catwa used to at least pay for exclusive shit, when you asked the creators of make up for example to do it for other heads, they would say it was not compatible when that was never entirely true and BOM shows that now, even if there’s a little difference between them.
#31 – I’m almost sorry I missed it, almost.
#32 – Are you under the impression color matching shit magically get things to “work together” I’ll agree all colors should be on the demo, but other than that you need some fashion consultation.
#33 – Nobody cares…
#34 – It’s not ok and that is why there is the report button.
#35 – Don’t buy it? And that’s not what a copybot is, you might not wanna use words you don’t know.
#36 – You could learn how to make a better avatar…
#37 – That was funny.
#38 – You came to the right place to ask that question…
#39 – Can’t argue with that.
#40 – That’s why you try the demo first.
#41 – Now that was pretty funny.
#42 – I can agree with most of that, not happy secrets.
#43 – Well when people bitch and moan about other shit non stop, mods start to get filled up, you might not see a problem but if 1000 people come to you asking the same stupid question, you wouldn’t put up with that shit, and that question WAS a stupid one, get your ass to Doux, get some demos, try it yourself, why the fuck would you EVER ask something that dumb on group chat or even go with what ever opinion people would give? Talk about being entitled and pretty much demanding other people doing your leg work for you.
#44 – She has a good point, when people find out about SS of FLF and others a like they start spending 100’s sometimes 1000’s on stupid shit they’ll never use then complain they are broke.
#45 – Thanks for the heads up I guess, next time just don’t get into a SL family so you don’t get pissy.
#46 – Yawn…
#47 – Can’t argue with that.
Another warm body says
26. There is nothing with going bald, who cares lol. That being said, who hasn’t this guy tried to “get with”? Maybe Bee does know that he sends snaps of his dick, videos of him jacking or talking dirty to other girls. I mean, who hasn’t got that video of him showing how he’d eat you out? Hell, I have guy friends who even had it sent to them by girls he’d sent it to. Listen, if Bee knows(which, how couldn’t she?) more power to her for staying with him because he HAS been doing this from the start of their relationship..the very start. That’s not exactly how I’d want my SO to act, but it is SL after all. I honestly think the whole group of friends take it too seriously and most have some serious issues, or at least they act like it. Anywho, isolate and stay safe out there everyone!
drop a name says
“because he HAS been doing this from the start of their relationship..the very start. ” if u got a name of someone he’s fucked around with maybe drop it otherwise ur just looking to stir an empty pot.
i bet u wish he would says
lmao what kind of obsessive behavior is it to try to pull down a couple that spend literally every minute of their day together just because they’re happier than you. 20 bucks you’re one of the many girls he fucked and left hanging after you got too attached.
nothing funnier than an angry fat lady says
That last bit is funny as hell considering #26 was posted by the extra angry HelloLady1 because she was kicked out of the family for taking newly single pixel dick and boasting about it like getting with a desperate drug addict is some proud accomplishment.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
I recognize that nasty skank legacy name; she doesn’t even care if the dick is actually single. I’ve personally witnessed her trying to throw herself at a guy who wasn’t. I remember she’s got one of those profiles that tries to show she doesn’t care about anything because she’s too badass while actually reeking with drama and desperation.
Cryout says
21 ROMAN GODDE
The reason why his/her actual partner FunkyGirl Neox still fucking with Tricky Boucher on the shadow
FunkyGirl Neox The Desperate Oversized and married woman Looking for Soup Opera For Years
Great Virtual Love
kesseret says
Have you considered people just don’t like your commentary on this site?
AnimeIsLame says
What pedo?
TalkToTheHand says
Get a better life. Make it worth something.
AnimeIsLame says
What pedophile?
Friend of Wasabi says
Shadow is seriously a joke. Poor wasabi deciding to be with this guy. We already know you guys break up every day and constantly cheat on each other. You guys are an example of the psychos on sl, sadly all of us know that and have to deal i with it since we love you wasabi
Love, your friend
Wasabi says
I’m an adult and there are things that not even my best friend knows:) That’s about all I wanted to say. By the way …… my friends are not anonymous and are not ashamed of their name.
Wasabi says
psycho is not the one who does it but the one who watches it closely 🙂 don’t you think?
David says
Sounds like you are sippin on some hateraid “Friend”.
Wasabi says
exactly
Friend of Shadow says
Hater. You have this F-d up “Friend” That’s why you hide. Shadow is a great guy and we love him. We both stated at the same time at 18. We both started at the same time at 18. He’s 19 now and acts 19. How old is his partner? Who’s the one really f-d up here? We love you Shadow!
Wasabi says
it’s exactly as you wrote. that’s why I love him. you are a real friend with a real name. 🙂
Shadow says
My age has nothing to do with this post, I am an adult and my choices are my own. Also my real friends don’t hide their name.
TheDevil says
shadow is a dogs name
Pocketsand says
Excuse you. It’s a hedgehog’s name too. ?
friend says
sad picking on poor little girl getting the blame taking the heat knowing shadow laughing at her while she takes his faults while shadow fucking behind his husband’s back
Wasabi says
why no one responds, I wanted to have the most comments ……. ?
Friend says
I say she is very sweet person with problems you guys say mean things about her the ones who back stab her and hurted her the ones talking crap I’m here for her no matter what she is I say she never did me dirty the people used her played her heart she trusts to easy
Thot did you say says
38. Who ?
Actually, who are half these people?
FUBAR says
Probably best you never find out. We’re all a little fucked up.
Isn't SL grand .. says
Sooo… what happened to spilling all the Tea on The Rhoxy .. and all that federal investigation stuff ? From what I see now Foxy is back with all her clubs reopening … as well as a few new ones she has added .. I find that funny after the big exit.
Hello Everyone,
Sorry We have all been so silent the past few days.
This was intended to keep everyone as safe as possible, and not to keep anyone out of the loop.
Several of our staff, myself included, have been victims of cyber crimes.
This was a massive criminal attack that includes multiple people and crosses state and country lines.
Our real lives have been hurt by this and at this point it is uncertain as to how much damage has been done.
Due to ongoing federal cyber crime investigation, I cannot release any detailed information.
None of us are aware as to why these attacks occurred and we are allowing local and federal agencies to handle the cases.
If you have any information pertaining to this event, please contact your local authorities and report to Linden Labs.
At this point, to protect all involved, I will be shutting Fox Den Enterprises indefinitely .
Several of our staff will be leaving Second Life as well.
Some of us have already fully deleted our accounts, Some are just logging off for an undetermined amount of time, and some will be staying.
These were all personal choices based on their own comfort levels.
The land is currently closed off to everyone.
I will maintain the discord servers for the next week or so and then i will be shutting them down as well.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this may be for anyone, but I have to do my best to keep you all safe.
My goal in having a club was to make a peaceful and fun place for us to call our own.
I enjoyed having time with you all and being able to provide a place for you all to call home.
Each of you are wonderful and beautiful people and I am truly honored to have gotten to know you all.
I wish nothing but the best for everyone.
You all were so amazing and truly made FDE a wonderful place to own.
I will hold onto the fond memories I have of each of you.
I have been sickened and distraught over this for days now, but I feel it is the best scenario for us all.
Thank you all for your love, support, and hard work.
I wish you all the very best in both lives.
Love you all.
~Foxy
There a story to tell here or what ???
Toxic-Internet says
It was in the comments last week. There aint anymore tea than that. Foxy just has some big balls and aint letting “big-bad” Labyrinth hold her back. Simple as that. Shes catering to the needs to SL dudes that cant get laid.
HMMM says
#13 Why does she look like a toddler, looks like she is at pedo basement too
Me my self and I says
# 44 focus!!!!!
Monster says
#2 did samantha prater do that secret, im hooooowling
Joy Joy says
Happy Mother’s Day!
Joy Joy says
Happy Mother’s Day!!
Annie says
Anyone with a brain will know that racists have used words like ‘gorilla’, ‘ape’ and ‘monkey’ to dehumanize black people in the past and that using those words will have a negative impact on the person on the receiving end of those vile insults.
Don’t defend racists unless you want everyone to know you’re also a racist scumbag.
Alexander says
@35 – Rezology has been making Sims hair for ages. They do not copybot or steal mesh. I assume their prices are so low because they are not whole-heartedly invested into Second Life. They converted their mesh to the game because they were asked, not because they wanted a profit. Get the facts right before attacking people, you ignorant piece of trailer trash.
@36 – It is 2020. Your complexity should not be higher than 75,000. Take off everything but the bare minimum and be a decent human being. People who to go to events in their entire inventory are the most cancerous people I know. More events should have this system, to be honest. Someone was at Uber with 400,000 complexity the other day. A complete joke.
@43 – Read. They say to not be negative about other creators and their products. This is because everyone in the group was crapping on Catwa, then Lelutka, then every other creator about the DMCA. How old are you? It is such a simple sentence, too. Did you just start reading midway through?
Aili Panthar says
re: 36, a lot of that is due to people refusing to update their look. 400,000 complexity is something that happens when someone is still wearing a bunch of flexiprims and sculpties. Prim-heavy bling jewellery is another culprit. I wish they could just let go and toss that old laggy stuff from 2009. I try to remember to put on full alpha when I go to events.
A Kid says
It’s RLV collars too which, of course, they refuse to remove.
Anon says
Thanks for the concern but my avi is full mesh and lower complexity than most people I see. Probably something close to 30k in Firestorm, I haven’t fired it up in months so I couldn’t tell you exactly. I’m just using a viewer that has a different ARC calculation (and it’s a decently popular one so I’m probably not the only person with this issue)
However, much as I love mesh, it’s laggier than the ugly 2008 stuff because it has much more polys.
Lova says
I’ve personally seen proof of Rezology having hair styles in their store that were uploaded by various sims creators years back. Unless they’re working under multiple completely unrelated accounts with no mention of SL… There’s at least some theft going on.
As for complexity- ikr? I think the highest I’ve ever seen was 1.4 mil complexity at an event, and the person was complaining so much about lag lol
Simmer Turned SL'er says
#35. Hardcore Simmer here and it came up in the community once with copyright infringement but that creator came out and had given permission as well as few others. I’m in the process of trying to find that thread if it still exists. I think it was posted on the old InSIMinator site though and it’s been down for YEARS. Rezology did not steal.
KT says
and the dmca is from a game developer not even a person established within sl.
Kylie says
Would just like to point out, that the reason people are naming SL creators, is because Anna herself stated so in the original notification…that it was another SL creator. https://www.flickr.com/photos/crazy-shopaholic/49767626762/in/dateposted/
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
People keep saying this like it’s confirmed, and really failing to provide any proof.
HMMM says
That is like saying calling one person the N-word is not calling all African Americans the N-word. That makes no sense.
itmakesnosense says
Well, it seems to me it’s the person she is quoting that’s racist, even then, how do we know the person she quoted, was talking about a black person? Or if they are black/white. Seems like there is more to this than meets the eye. Some usual SL bs drama, people falling out. I don’t know but this smells fishy.
i cant says
i dont see her calling a “black” person names, also, it says she is quoting someone and agreeing, how do we know the person, the “quoted” person is calling, is black and what if that person themselves is black or white, or chinese or Indian. what the heck is this even about. someone is trying to take someone down. im not falling for it
Banana says
#29 what? its a name. there are only so many white girl names in the world, whats wrong with using a different name? i find alot of African American names are pretty and unique, so why not use it?
Lova says
I’m pretty sure it’s less about the name itself and more about the fact that Doux hasn’t put out a lot of natural black hair styles and then this, being one of their only ones, being named after the name white people typically go for when making fun of black women isn’t a Great look.
Js says
Its not his job to though. Maybe he doesn’t know exactly how to do a “black hair style” because maybe he isn’t black himself? At least he tried. The name thing is reaching because there is hairs that are named after “basic white names” that others what fun when talking about white people but if you look at all the names from his hairs, most of the names are latin. So, should we assume he is making fun the latin community too? Stop reaching, its dumb. If you like the hair then get it if you don’t like it then don’t get it. its that simple.
Kendaya says
DAVID is Spanish man, he make latin name because Spain-Latinamerica are connected. We are used the same name that Spain. He not making fun the latin community. Please He dumb people stop talk bullshit. Laquisha is great name from african ascendt like me. Please be more pride!
Lova says
Oh I didn’t mean that as a drag about him not doing more black hair, just more of a perspective on why people might be upset about the name specifically. Laquisha is perfectly fine on it’s own as a name, wonderful even, but the associations are kinda bad for a lot of people. Same with using the name Shaniqua, fantastic and beautiful name but it’s used a lot in racist jokes and that can be a bit of a sore spot for a lot of people if it’s not coming from a black person or someone who’s extremely clearly been respectful in the past.
TheDevil says
but black hair creators making a straight hair all of the sudden and calling it “becky” is perfectly acceptable right?
Mark says
People should get on with their own second life and that picture proves nothing really
whatever says
Pedo this pedo that at this point anything and everything is pedo
Thot did you say says
Yet we see no real evidence of it? its to easy to label someone a pedo now days.
Anonymous says
#4 looks like the poster is also psycho to waste time on it LOL
#22 not only catwa, but other head makers are also the same way, now even look at prices of bodies since Legacy came out
#46 this guy needs a psychiatrist to find out that people are not that ugly LOL
30 Year Old Pics Catfish says
Jumping in to defend her makes you a Triggered Snowflake!
BlackandBEAUTIFUL says
Foh, calling anyone of color a gorilla is racial statement. You can’t find any other insult but calling someone a gorilla, which is a steretypically racist asf statement means you racist and you don’t care who knows it .
Lord P Twittingale says
1. Yawn
2. If you are going to put her in her place and show her who’s the boss, why are you not approaching her, instead of being a coward posting it here?
3. It’s not just ugly it’s fugly, how delluded is she?
4. Is that an advertisement? Most SL users are mentally unstable, hence your post.
5. You sound salty, are you jealous of him?
6. No one cares
7. Do lemon’s have assholes? If you don’t like it, don’t buy it! If you think you can do a better job, why aren’t you creating?
8. She said she likes it, she pays for her avatar, I didn’t know it needed your approval. Does your avatar look better? Why not show us who you are, so we all can judge you?
9. If you are that bothered about the person whoever it is, why don’t you just block them? You freak.
10. If you are still falling for guys bullshit and giving it up after 5 minutes, you’re the problem, not him.
11. I don’t know if Denny knows, she would have known if you had bothered to send her the screenshot you dumb ass.
12. Sounds like you are crushing on someone and want to see their face behind the filter, that’s cute, surely you could ask them?
13. Saying “It was once said” isn’t her directly calling anyone anything, it’s a quote even though she doesn’t know how quotes work. Also, what was the full chat, you seem to have lost an arguement and come here to try make her sound bad. I don’t support racism but I doubt very much that she just said that ouf of the blue.
14-17. I really can’t be arsed reading most of that, you say “get some skill” yet you can’t even use an image editor to produce something legible. Good job!
18. Why you posting that here? Why are you not reporting it to LL, it’s against TOS?
19 and 20. You seem to know what you are talking about, how about you create skins? You seem to know what everyone wants, you could make quite a nice profit from it.
21. There probably isn’t anyone who doesn’t know she’s a he, especially when she was partnered to that fucking psycho Kaithleen.
22. I don’t get this, for weeks everyones been whining because Catwa aren’t giving anything free, yet you are now whining that they are giving out something free? This just makes me feel no matter what a creator does, it’s just not good enough. Unless of course I missed the point of this and it’s just you trying to state that you have some sort of weird foot fetish. If that’s the case, get some fresh air.
23. Do people actually still go to that shitty place?
24. Club Bullshit sounds like a great place to go and meet interesting people.
25. What is with you? Why are you sending this to Virtual Secrets instead of reporting to Linden Labs? Is it not common sense?
26. What is wrong with being bald? I’m assuming that is what it means. I really hope that you mean someone in real life is keeping him warm, I would love to know how this works if it is in second life.
27. Who cares?
28. What the hell is that supposed to be? You sound very petty. Most groups are clique’s I’m sure you are in a few. I’m not sure if you are aware of this but there probably isn’t a starbucks open that goes against social distancing right now. Also, why would they send eachother thoughts and prayers in person? Is that what you do?
29. Your grammar is god awful. Why do you have 2 sets of brackets after eachother?
30. It’s not a secret but I would have thought the answer was obvious.
31. Boring!
32. You need colours to know if something is going to fit? The items won’t look good with tint, are you that simple minded?
33. You could have said that in their comments coward. Also what are they lying about?
34. I don’t like that there are clothes out there which encourage age play, it is pretty sick. I agree with you.
35. Bringing mesh in from SIms isn’t a new thing.
36. How about you just go there with just an invisible alpha on, attachment whore.
37. Homophobe much?
38. That’s sweet, I hope you are reuinted soon, unless you are a crazy stalker.
39. Fair point, I don’t get why people still morph etc. It’s not like they need to with skins and heads being so detailed now.
40. Do many people zoom in at side angles then when you are out and about?
41. How do you sexier? Are you supporting size 16+ models? Good for you, I agree!
42. Happy secrets is nice, it might stop all this bitterness and bring everyone closer with positivity.
43. Why didn’t they post in Doux group, also why don’t you learn to read group policies before posting and making yourself look a bit daft.
44. Thanks for making my eyes squint.
45. Why is it every week without fail there is always a post showing their ignorance to the DD/BG/LG community. It’s nothing to do with paedophiles, the internet is a wide wide base of knowledge you just need to learn how to use google. I didn’t read anything after your second sentance, I lost interest.
46. The creator specifically asked for feedback on their post, why didn’t you do it there? Are you too nervous?
47. That is worthy of being set on fire and shat on. Please stop those morphing pictures, use your talent to take a picture and edit it without having to make it look terrible.
Username here says
Can’t say anything to their face jackass when they were blocked. He got pissy and wanted to play victim when she left him.
Username here says
Lord P Twatingham you’re just basically a Kyle (or Karen) who’s got no life but to comment on all these posts, so my question is, is Jay sucking your dick as well for you to come here and call someone a coward cause they can’t tell him to his face after he blocked them after writing that post?
EyeRoll says
Hilarious that you think calling out tackiness is homophobia.
Let’s open it! says
#11
Lord P Twittingale says
Well said!
Wasabi says
5. aww my sweet babe, i love you so much ♥♥
Little Devil says
We fed machines and then we prayed
Puked up and down in morbid faith
You should have seen the ratings that day
Wasabi says
A pill to make you numb
A pill to make you dumb
A pill to make you anybody else
But all the drugs in this world
Won’t save her from herself
Shadow says
We fed machines and then we prayed
Puked up and down in morbid faith
You should have seen the ratings that day
Wasabi says
A pill to make you numb
A pill to make you dumb
A pill to make you anybody else
But all the drugs in this world
Won’t save her from herself
David says
How often is the crazy woman going to try and break other couples up? Everyone knows what she’s doing and anyone that’s been with her in the past will tell you how off her rocker she is. You two are wonderful and I wish you nothing but the best.
Wasabi says
thank you David !!
Shadow says
Thank you David!
Kaithleen says
Both of you are such a beautiful couple, I have watched you two together. Ignore the jealousy of this person. We know who it is.
Wasabi says
thank you Kaith ♥♥
Shadow says
Thank you Kaithleen
Creeped Out says
This person aka “crazy stalker” asking me to dislike this post crying about being rejected. smh I don’t know this person. Never liked people trying to hurt others just because they were rejected. My friends told me to be careful this girl targets couples.
Wasabi says
These people are difficult to defend against, but I can say that these people are strengthening me and thank you for your support
Abfab Hax says
#3 – She’s rocking that Teresa Guidice hairline.
#6- If you have to announce it, then you are not taking a break.
#10 – So they worked their Mojo, their name is Mojo and for some reason you are shocked? I hear porn music when I see a name like this. That’s all I need for a warning sign.
#25 – The person’s name is Wesley. Again warning sign.
#33 – Don’t know about the secret but kudos on this Jay person for being in sobriety. One day at a time dude.
#37 – So true.
#39/47 – Please stop morphing. There has never been a time that this looked good.
Jay says
Well at least one person said something nice about me.
Fuck you Gal for putting me up here you dirty back stabbing cunt!
Hi Jay says
You sure it was Gal or Barbz? People talk you know, so anyone could have posted this.. so get your head out your ass
Abfab Hax says
I have been on the journey of sobriety for 3+ years. It’s a bitch of a road to travel but it’s soo worth it. Keep strong in yours.
Jay says
Almost 3 years for me! Yeah not easy but its a healthier life choice.
AnimeIsLame says
You forgot the part where you’re a paedophile.
BLOGGERSARECOOL? says
#1. How dare you take such nice pictures and use Photoshop in 2020!
WHAT IN THE BLAZES ARE THESE WELL EXECUTED PHOTOS DOING ON FLICKR?
Bloggers in SL? PFFF I can’t believe it.
Oh you don’t subscribe to drama but subscribe to fashion?
BLASPHEMY
How dare you trial and error and apply to become a blogger, you know darn well this is an alien concept.
DP says
@37: They are really ugly people; Ugly in the inside.
A says
The gay community in SL is full of very toxic and cliquish people. Also a-lot of them have no personality. Playing gestures a-lot doesn’t make you interesting. Most of them think they are better then everyone to.
EyeRoll says
Style based on Daffyd Thomas circa 2004.
Just saying... says
#1. Actually, according to the Linden Labs TOS, you must be 18-years-old, in order to use their service.
“In order to be eligible to access and use the Tilia Service, you must (i) be eighteen (18) years of age or older, (ii) have the legal ability to enter into and be bound by these Terms and the relevant Platform TOS”
Anyone who is under that age limit does risk losing their account if they are caught, underage.
Just saying... says
Oops, grabbed the Tilia one, by mistake. Here is the LL one:
3.1 Age Requirements for the Service.
By accepting this Agreement, you represent that you are at least eighteen (18) years of age (or the legal age of majority in your jurisdiction, if greater) and you have the legal authority to enter into this Agreement. If you are less than eighteen (18) years of age (or the legal age of majority in your jurisdiction, if greater), then your parent or legal guardian must read and accept this Agreement, your use of the Service, participating in the Service, and providing any personal information in connection with the Service on your behalf.
Spazzo says
Er, this says you have to be 18 to accept terms of service! If you’re under your parents have to do this for you. In other words kids can use SL!
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Lets be real- we all know the teenagers in SL don’t tell their parents and get them to accept the TOS, which means that pretty much all of their accounts are “illegal”. Teenagers don’t belong in SL anyway. It’s too fucked up an influence on minds that impressionable. I’ve known people who got into SL too young and it really warps your perceptions. They all have issues with rl social interactions.
AnimeIsLame says
No 17 is lrn2TOS
Ultimate Whore Bore says
Well, the owner is a RL male and about half the staff are RL men as well, soooo…..
Sippingmytea says
Funny if she managed The Rack – never had any managers here ? love to know who this owner is
Rack Owner says
Hey Dragon, well she or he – not that it really matters never worked for The Rack as a manager – We don’t have managers here and never have. So that story is utter BS – We had one girl here – who worked for a short bit and then I found out she was the Manger or GM at GLAMM was hiding it from us and she got called out and fired for it – So I found this hilarious
Rack Owner says
She may have – ? and said The Rack., and if she did meh, and was only letting you know – not calling your story BS – that was my bad – But the owners name of GLAMM that name never worked here.. and the Manger or GM can’t remember what it was – left there and opened her own club i saw.. HA –
Username here says
#33 Jay is a complete douche.. wants to play the victim in this situation cause he doesn’t log on for weeks and leaves his girl alone with no word.. would rather play with his “best friend” and his dog… which he’s “accidentally touched” the dogs private area while rubbing her belly… fucking sicko.. just looking to try to make yourself look better when YOU got left for not being around and communicating… he’s just bitter
Jay says
Gal You are a sick fucking person for doing this!.
Ever since you got put up here on SL Secrets yourself, You have been a complete bitch.
Leave me the fuck alone! Acting like you are apart of the relationship between me and barbz all the time.
Pestering me because I am gaming so fucking what?
And as for my Dog You are fucking sick!
It was my first time Giving her a fucking belly rub.
And as for spending too much time with my Dog, Its called Training you dumb cunt!
You know, bonding between animal and best friend right? Something you should know about.
Seriously Grow the fuck up! Leave me the fuck alone and move on!
FAKER says
DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE POINTING YOUR PATHETIC FINGER!
Hi Jay says
Lemme let you in on a little secret buddy.. neither Gal or Barbz posted this… people talk so you’ll never know who it was but I promise you it wasn’t one of them, so trying to tear Gal apart like that in here isn’t gonna fly… so get your finger out your dogs coochie before typing all this nonsense
Jay says
Then All 3 of you are sick fucks And Good Riddance!
TeaDrinker says
#3 is ugly as sin, holy crap. xD
#19 & #20 – AMEN SISTA
#28 I joined this group recently and absolutely no tea has been spilled. Disappoint. I didn’t know Bellesaria was meant to be a hotbed of housewife drama when I moved in, I chose it because it was the newest with the best houses. Finding out there would be tea? BONUS. Except there isn’t any.
#29 The hair is gorgeous. :3 That name though, lol.
#25 I DIED LOL. Diaper crinkle and illegal meats. Bahahahaah.
tacocat says
The only tea is that the OP of #28 needs to get a hobby.
A Kid says
37 – Are you serious? If your ARC is 100,000 and you’re wearing a human avatar, then you must be decked to the nines in old flexis or heavy prim items or wearing an extremely elaborate avatar with tons of jewelry, HUDs, and attachments. Most avatars are way under that or half that, that’s an extremely generous limit. Take off your scripty primmy RLV collar, that’s what 90% of script or ARC limit complaints seem to stem from.
A Guy says
It’s honestly the way Black Dragon in particular calculates ARC, looking at the screenshot, it’s what they’re using.
Black Dragon calculates ARC and amount of textures you’re using and amount of triangles that make-up what you see of your avatar, which is honestly high for almost anyone on the grid, those are the things that actually impact performance apart from draw distance locally.
All other viewers that uses Linden Labs calculations won’t have this issue often since LL’s calculator is more tame and kind of sugarcoats the complexity so it’s really not too bad.
These objects that read calculations are being sent the data from the host viewer, so whatever complexity your viewer reports to as, that’s what is shown to be your complexity, so my only suggestion is to either not use Black Dragon for shopping, or just detach everything and throw on a full-body alpha.
A Kid says
Wasn’t aware of this, A Guy, thanks for the heads up!
To Anon, if 90% is trash… don’t go? You can wait until it hits the mainstore if it’s such a sin to go in an alpha. I promise you, no one at these events even gets to see you rezz most of the time and you’re just floating random body parts. Jelly dolls don’t help as much as you seem to think either – there are avatars that I can just feel the lag soup when I pass even if I have them jellied.
Be glad it’s not the 25k complexity limit of Monthly Midnight Madness. Every round has some babygirl crying she can’t remove her collar to get the gifts.
Anon says
If the people you are passing are still lagging you out jellied, it’s most likely because they are wearing many large textures which are either taxing your network or your memory. They would probably not trigger this message on Firestorm, and would lag you out all the same.
To go a bit technical, the default implementation of ARC is in fact pretty bad at actually evaluating what is actually heavy in terms of rendering. The largest contributors of lag/low fps are heavy textures and high poly. ARC rates things like flexi, glow, and prims very heavily, while mesh is pardoned unless you have a ton of attachments. While I’m glad the former are being punished as they are an eyesore, mesh is generally much laggier than prims are, as any pre-mesh boomer can attest. Something like the Freya body has over 3x the polygons of the Hourglass but they have almost the same ARC. The Black Dragon ARC calculation is much more accurate, but it also has wildly different values, most people will reach the millions in cost.
Anyway, I don’t really care about people seeing me in events or anything, I go in my normal outfit because I want to demo the clothes. And that was my point, I’m not going to that event anymore. I can’t be bothered.
Anon says
I have a normal, mesh human avatar, and literally have to hit detach all to get under the limit. I’m on Black Dragon which calculates ARC differently; and even if I was somehow this 2008 flexi abomination, this is literally why jellydolls exist, learn to use them instead. Not gonna download a whole different viewer just to browse events where 90% of the clothing is trash either.
MissMiss says
40. You can usually fix that issue by editing your shape. Go to forehead angle, I believe.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
If you’re going to do this, be aware it will change your eyebrows both in height and arc when you do, and you’ll need to tweak your eyebrow shape as well if you don’t want your face to look different.
RayOfFuckinSunshine says
#23 Just let the over 40 obese bored and horny housewives party and fuck in peace ffs
Phillip Moris says
33 – Heard he likes baseball and football and that his favorite positions was “catcher” and “wide reciever”
Parcheezi says
3. No, you’re ugly.
8. Paula has always been gross.
21. But how else is he supposed to catfish people?
23. More like desperately posting themselves on here.
Avid Sims Player says
Ack okay, so the Rezology secret. That Sims hair is by Newsea. If you look on Rezology’s mp, you’ll see they went by the name Newsea for a bit too. Just like Sintiklia and Pixicat and Stealthic, Rezology came from Sims to make stuff for SL. Rezology IS Newsea. They re-rigged their old stuff for SL, but also have been working on original hairs.
But yeah, can’t tell Rezology to stop copying the Sims creator when they are the actual Sims creator themselves.
Simmer Turned SL'er says
Like I said in one comment, there was a big thread about this on an old sim website and I’m trying to find it. A lot of creators from Mod The Sims and TSR came in and basically said yes, we agree. It makes sense that it’s actually THOSE people in SL too. I knew Stealthic and Sintiklia were the same cause of the name (duh on me). Of course back then I wasn’t on SL yet so I didn’t know. lol.
xxx says
Hey Kess. Can we get a dark theme option?
kesseret says
Ill look into it. It may take a redesign or something and that may take a long time since I’ve got a ton of projects but I’ll put it on the list.
my two cents says
32. This would be a copybotter’s dream, I’m afraid.
Sierra K. says
#43 Need my glasses? Because you obviously cant read. They dont want people to talk negatively about other brands in group chat or on sim. They arent banning the talk about other brands. They just dont want people to bash them while in their group because thats trashy. Seems you forgot to underline the word right before just so you can try to make genus look bad. ?♀️?♀️
Sneakiki says
They also don’t want people promoting their competition in their chat such as sending people to Catwa for their free head or promoting the AK limited release head there. That is perfectly reasonable.
Just another user says
30
Creators like money, long time ago I spent hours making all my products for every head out there. But the time I spent making stuff for less popular heads ended up costing me money, as it wasn’t time I spent making stuff that actually sells. Gave up, now support only the “big” 3. With BOM a lot of the non lipsticks can used for those other heads too. Alas, The 5 or 6 hours it took me to get every product set up for all the heads I knew of I could be on Photoshop making one or two new things that would sell very well for the other heads. If you want something supported you need to support creators with your money too or they will probably decide it’s just not worth their time.
The breakdown of one product. A set of lipsticks 24 in a pack the sales I had for AK and Gaeg heads didn’t even make up for the upload costs. I like to price my stuff affordably. The Genus, Catwa and Lelutka versions made over 10k each. It was like that every time. Sold even less if anything for logo never sold anything for the slink heads… so that is how I personally decided what heads I support and which I don’t.
I Use An Old Head & Am Afraid of Change says
I think making stuff Omega and BOM would fix a lot of issues and be universal. I’m just hoping makers done abandon suppliers for BOM altogether.
Idcreally says
You can’t just “make it” BOM and Omega. Lots of designers list the head worn in the ad for a reason—the texture is created on a specific head. A lipstick made for Catwa can be made BOM or put into an omega bud, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to look good on Lelutka or Genus.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
That’s why you provide demos. The UV maps are all the same on human heads/bodies in SL- just because it looks “best” on one mesh doesn’t mean it won’t fit others. Just put out a demo, say it’s designed for whatever mesh and provide demos for people who use others to decide if they like it too. It’s just pasting an UUID into a notecard to make an applier for another mesh, and BOM layers are literally universal. It takes seconds max, not hours, to support all heads or bodies when it comes to texture layers.
Just another user says
The moment a head has HD maps you make products for that is no longer the case, try to apply a genus HD map to the SL UV mouth. It does not work. Neither will it work for Catwa, which has it’s own HD layer, or Lelutka, again it’s own layer. Personally I don’t bother making one size fits all, I will create products for the HD layers only as there I can create the detail I am and my customers are looking for. It’s just not the same. If I were making omega one size fits all on the SL UV layer that would hold true, but I make an extra template for each head’s HD layer and many other creators do to.
If I were on my PC today I’d get here with a screenshot of a HD layer applied to SL UV if I feel like it I might do it later when I get home.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Really? Because you can use omega to apply the same thing to Genus and Catwa, so it must be the same basic template. While it’s true the edges of the lips might not line up with the skin or whatever, this is what the demos are for. I’m quite sure some things might look “bad” on other meshes. I’m personally not trying to buy stuff that isn’t made for my meshes, but apparently a lot of people are. It’s on the consumer to use the demo, and decide what they think looks good or bad themselves.
Just another user says
The Catwa HD Layer, The Genus HD layer and the Lelutka HD layer have different UV maps. They all can use SL UV but SL uv maps compared to the HD map is tiny and lacks detail. If you are using SL UV yes you CAN apply it to all heads that use SL UV for the lips. But if you are creating specifically for the HD Layer that no longer works. There is a reason Catwa added a HD layer that you wear as a separate layer. To allow for higher quality lip sticks.
https://gyazo.com/f06aca42cc2eaf0591c65e79f769cf7e
Can’t use Omega for HD layers. Only SL UV
Anon says
Hahaha @ Ignorant, Catwa’s UV mapping is so warped around certain areas, even their own heads can’t wear the same skin and still look good. Why else did they get so butthurt when someone tried to make Catwa specific skins work on their mesh heads too? Because they know it’s specific to them. At least Lelutka and Genus heads are consistent and can actually work reasonably well with BOM. Seems like the only people who know this are designers who’ve tried.
Rose says
35. Even I know Rezology IS the Sims creator…
WhatIsYourDamageHeather says
I was today years old when I learned this.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
How do you know how “ugly” Catwa is compared to other heads if you don’t get on SL at all, like you claim? And how do you know what Bento is, and that it was recently added? How do you know about sims that use bot traffic? Ooops.
AnimeIsLame says
Because there’s an image of it on SL secrets you numbskull. And i know about traffic bots because people complain about them in discord groups im in,.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
LOL No one who doesn’t get on SL would know the difference between one head creator and another, sorry; most of the head pics that are posted here are ugly, and only some of them are Catwa. You’re definitely a resident. It’s cute how you come here to work out all your self-loathing over how much you actually like SL, though.
AnimeIsLame says
I don’t think you’ve ever been on Youtube bro I watch you freaks have mental breakdowns over everything there its hilarious. Even now seeing you have a mental breakdown is what I’d call entertainment. Prove i been on SL?
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Actually, I follow all the YT trolls; they don’t talk about mesh head brands, or which clubs have bot traffic, or what Bento means- not ever. I’m on the Bad Guys discord server to keep track of current trolls and their new accounts as they emerge- and since I went running around with Britbong back in the day when he still got on SL while he was streaming, I’ve never been in a trolling video. You forgot yourself, Anime. You are exposed. Most people never believed you weren’t in SL anyway, so it doesn’t matter that much.
AnimeIsLame says
Trying to be relatable. we all know you’re some 50 year old chain smoking e-begger. You probably work as a stripper at some dead night club in SL too.
AnimeIsLame says
Proof I’m exposed?
Annie says
Proof is in the knowledge you have that only residents would know.
YOU are so lame, yet you think you’re so cool. Incels are such a joke.
haha says
Yikes Karen calm down
AnimeIsLame says
So no proof tho?
xxx says
Shut the fuck up. You’re both losers trying to be big dicks on a shitty website.
Seriously??? says
13-17 – There are actually some doing original content but people bitch at them for not releasing as fast as their entitled nature demands. Sadly the large stores on SL do exactly what you say but are not willing to pay fairly… 15 bucks an hour??? That is insulting, makes the whole SL business things sound like a gigantic sweatshop.
Spazzo says
I wish Spectacled Chic would do this! Her ideas are great, but the execution is poor.
Reallysis says
46. You could have given her feedback since she asked for it on that post
Orphanage owner says
#25 few years ago that kid lived in my orphanage and waa caught trying to have sex in the bedroom (he rezzed his own bed,my beds are always 100% pg) with 3 other children and got instantly banned as well as his friends then attacked me as if I was in the wrong lol..he’s a nasty person who gives the child community a bad name.The child community is better off without his disgusting self.
AnimeIsLame says
No proof? Thought so.
haha says
Calm down Karen holy shit you’re going off today. Is it cause it’s Mother’s Day?
AnimeIsLame says
Calm down you spastic clown
WhatIsYourDamageHeather says
Yep, you’re on SL. You crave instant satisfaction and get bitchy when it doesn’t happen. You’re the kind of jerkoff who pollutes groups devoted to free and low-cost item giveaways and hunts upset that one gift out of 20 doesn’t suit your aesthetic. Sad.
AnimeIsLame says
Stop sperging out nonce
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
Hear, hear! It’s pure ignorance that makes people think making their items “no mod” prevents theft in any way.
my two cents says
To answer No & Be Less Ignorant, Please…
I’m trying to see where, in such a tiny comment at that, I’ve said that “no mod” would stop copybotting/prevent theft and I’m honestly failing to see it.
Just like you, I wish that creators would allow customization permissions. However it’s undeniable that it would make the whole copybotting process easier, cheaper and faster. No matter how inefficient that “no mod” protection is, I can understand how creators can resort to this since they don’t have much security solutions in their hands. They are not doing this to intentionally annoy you customers, believe me.
my two cents says
I honestly see that differently.
Taking as example a pair of shoes or whatever, their demo version has a texture with “demo” written all over it but they have mod permissions.
Say copybotter n°1 gets a fat-pack of the shoes with the unwatermarked textures and stuff.
You, as copybotter n°2, can extract said textures, reimport them for peanuts, and apply them with a few clicks to the demo version thanks to the mod permissions. You can visually get the “real” deal without having to reimport the mesh and without the implications that this would take (rigging, importation price and so on).
I took the example of two people cooperating, but if the demo texture isn’t complex much one can remove the watermarks with some editing program and that would do the job too.
Pocketsand says
Okay, but no one is expecting someone to hand out a demo with mod permissions. So the example is a moot point for this entire discussion.
Mod or No Mod does not stop the people who are going to steal from stealing. It doesn’t make it harder to steal by making it No Mod. It actually does the opposite because typically, if you make products people like and then make them no mod, copybotters hit your stuff harder. Take a look at any of the copybotting trade sites and it’s nearly almost always true.
The only things you should be making no mod are things like scripts, HUD’s (but sometimes these shouldn’t be no mod depending on the item and the function of the HUD), and included notecards. There is never going to be a way to stop copybotters from getting what they want, and applying the false security blanket of “no mod” is pointless and drives off customers.
my two cents says
Yup, I somehow remembered the secret as asking the creators to let people modify the demos. Mea culpa.
my two cents says
Yup, I somehow remembered the secret as asking the creators to let people modify the demos. Mea culpa.
However, if a demo is tintable then it means mod permissions are allowed, ain’t they?
my two cents says
I know that’s not what the secret poster asks for, but I’m asking of the possible flaws a tintable demo can have regardless of the secret.
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
And what you’re still not getting is that they are doing it uselessly, and it only penalizes people who pay for their items. It doesn’t give any kind of security whatsoever against copybotting, except when it comes to scripts, and you can make scripts no-mod without making the mesh itself no mod. I get that apparently a lot of people who read this little blog really want to believe that it matters, but no matter how many times you frown and hit that little thumbs down, it won’t change reality.
Cook says
It’s about design. I take pride in what I make and how I model and texture it. I don’t want to see people walking around with tinted colors and glowing shit or combined mesh then calling it my brand. Tinting or trying to change the texture of a thing with baked in textures it’s a mistake. Even adjusting the size manually for some objects can mess up the textures. The end user should receive a great experience without tinkering.
Regarding the demos. Releasing demos with all the textures and a hud would be a mistake. It would absolutely be a copyboters dream. They will even go so far as removing the text from the textures. Stealing mesh off people won’t get them all the colors and a hud.
my two cents says
To Be Less Ignorant, Please…
Can you post your point without being arrogant or that’s an option? Maybe those “little thumbs down” come from that.
my two cents says
Thank you Cook, you’ve said everything. Of course “no-mod” doesn’t prevent copybotting but I see exploitable flaws in mod permissions that would make copybotting less dreadful at least.
Pocketsand says
@Cook: I’m gonna be the one to puncture your ego a bit on that first point though. Most customers who want to modify do it to make it work or fit with other things they’re wearing. It’s not a statement on your quality of work. And even if it was, maybe they don’t like a small part of the product but like the rest of it overall. Why would it matter? They’ve paid you for it and now they want to enjoy it. Trying to thwart that on principle alone is petty. I’ve never tried to stop customers from enjoying my products for a reason like that and most seem to really appreciate that and even come up with new and interesting ways to use what I’ve offered them. What you’re describing is restriction for vanity’s sake.
@my two: I’m not sure why you keep going on about demos. No one wants the ability to tint demos or edit them. There’s no reason to make a demo mod. Making bought products no mod does not make theft less dreadful. That’s exactly the point everyone is trying to make for you.
my two cents says
Pocketsand… I fully understood, as per my last reply, I’m just asking because I THOUGHT that was the initial point of the secret. Can’t I just ask? Damn!
And even if we’re not talking about demos, I could’ve applied this case to “single releases” if it’s all about bought items, but still I’d like to know if it’s a possibility. Nothing more.
I know some people here like to be belligerent in the comments but it’s not everybody’s case. I’d like to a genuine, civile conversation and be thoroughly informed about all of that, I’m not playing dumb to annoy you guys because your last sentence makes it sound like so.
Cook says
Yes, it is vanity and ego and anything else you’d like to add. I know that I sound like a stuck up bitch. But those are good things in the fashion world. If you don’t take pride in what you make, then you’re just making things for the 99¢ store. I spend days, sometimes even weeks on a single release and it has my signature on it. I care about that and care about my brand. Not all shades of pink should be the same in all SL. If I wouldn’t care, I’d just release a white t-shirt with a tint hud.
Now, this is just my opinion and why I do it. Other store owners can do whatever they like. It’s not reason enough to ask everybody to be the same, or even more dreadful, pointing fingers and being arogant as hell while doing it.
Regarding demos, I see there’s some misconception.
I’m talking about full featured demos. Permissions are irrelevant for thieves.
Pocketsand says
@my two: It’s hard to not read it as the latter with the formatting of the way replies are posted so if you’re genuinely not trying to be antagonistic then that’s on me for reading it that way. It genuinely felt like you were pushing the discussion in circles, so if it wasn’t the case, I apologize.
However, as to single releases, are you asking if tinting them means they’re mod (which it doesn’t always if the creator includes tinting options in their hud), or if tinting items means a loss of potential sales (it doesn’t because as cook pointed out most experienced users won’t try to tint things beyond subtle color changes due to how it can flatten a texture, so most will actually buy a vastly different color, especially if it’s a black color)?
my two cents says
There is a constant feeling of tension in comments so I get it. But yes, my question was if tinting them meant they’re mod. Thank you for the answer (and maybe the answer you’ll post after this, I have to go to log off.)
Pocketsand says
@cook: You can have pride in what you do without doing any of that. Even in RL, fashion people are going to customize and change things to make statements; even doing things like painting on expensive designer bags. That’s what fashion is for, breaking boundaries and expressing yourself. This has nothing to do with how hard you work or how much you care about your brand or ‘fashion’ in general. This is an insecurity speaking, and to romanticize it as anything else is disingenuous.
On a platform like SL where we can do and create almost anything, finding ways to thwart that that are rooted in shallow reasoning is depressing. Like you said, not every shade of pink should be the same, but you’re asking your customers to do exactly that: Only wear the shade of pink you choose and look the same if they want to enjoy your work (and before we get stuck on the topic of tinting again, that’s only a facet of editing, but it’s the one that was referenced).
Be Less Ignorant, Please says
If you “downvote” valid information because you don’t like the tone, you should probably grow up a little. That’s kinda pathetic.