Welcome to Virtual-Secrets, week 600.
theres a copybotter in the Miss SL group. thats all im allowed to say for now. Aren’t those chics supposed to have class?? whoever owns that go over your group with a fine tooth comb. i’m not allowed to say more. =( its killing me. xD
Can we start mixing this stuff up a bit? It’s the same old stuff she sleeping with this dude, he sleeping with that chick. This person is a pedo. Every damn week. Apparently people have run out out of true gossip to submit. What about creator drama? There is always some of that. Hell as a creator I will go out and start some shit for you just to end the current snooze fest.
Been a while since I went down the list and did a mass post. People must have forgot. #2 – Just because you can afford something, does not mean that the purchase is worth it. Also, who really cares about Flickr Pro? Like, the site itself has gone downhill and most people called it months and months ago. I mean, how many of you own Photoshop? Surely you can afford the $14 a month for it instead of pirating it. #3 – Instead of bitching on a gossiping site, how about you tell the creator? Half of these issues they are not even aware of and no one tells them. If she responded rudely I could understand, but you are bitching for the sake of bitching. #4 – Shape sellers lmao. #10 – How can someone be a fake photographer? Scratch that, how can anyone be a photographer on Second Life? You press print screen, take it into Photoshop, and then touch it up like every other creator. Every single photo you see these days has been touched up in Photoshop or has a filter/lens attached to make the picture crisp or better quality. What does the LGBT community have to do with this? This whole ‘secret’ is over the place. #11 – Good original insult dude. All it needs is some emojis and – oh. #12 – And I thought #10 was bad. This takes the cake for the most cringe post of the week. #13 – What is this ‘real’ men nonsense I keep seeing? I mean, there is no difference between men around the world and someone cannot be a ‘fake’ man. Having hair on your chest, large testicles, or a ten-inch dick does not make you a man. Being respectful and faithful also does not make… Read more »
Not EVERY photo you see these days has been photoshopped, maybe every photo you see have, but some of us don’t need to touch up photos. If you think there is no skill in decent SL Photography, you obviously have 0 skill level
You really haven’t been paying attention at all if you think the bitches using the pedo bait avis are getting a pass. In fact, they’ve been getting most of the shit over the past few weeks/month or so, while the pedo losers that go for them are mostly only mentioned in passing unless one of them happens to be posted. The majority of the focus has been on how pathetic and disgusting you have to be to create one of those toddler faced, hypersexualized body avis, how they are mostly fat, lonely old women who are desperate for attention.
So welcome back to the secrets, I guess, but you’re wrong there.
Get a fucking life seriously. Say the names please, stop the bullshit and let the games begin. You talking about naike doglod in these posts? Do you know what stalking means, extortion, publishing pictures/documents without consent, slander? Defamation of character? Legally binded to report this. Shove your restraining order up your ass, and stop hacking me through my IP address. Access to my phone? You all are pathetic and need hobbies, a life. Please get one. I’m honored you are obsessed with my family and I, but this is getting so old.
#14, filing a lawsuit, you’re right.
You sound paranoid and delusional
Did you review this content to insure PII was protected? Clearly not, why aren’t you masking this post? You know this post isn’t an avatar, a game, you know what extortion means, right? This sounds like someone has a hold of my notes on my phone, and randomly posts shit, that I just got done writing about in the notes section of my iphone.
I’m so delusional, I scare myself, but you know what, you idiots are reading my notes, and blogging about them. I’m honored it’s so entertaining for you, but it’s highly illegal. Rudy’sWordPress.
Where’s my meme?
and Shaun O I think I just linked you. Stay the fuck out of my life, and stay the fuck away from me. Stop fucking slandering me, both you and your roommate John skulls. Peace.
and (me) whoever the blogger is, isn’t me, Naike Doglod- yes that’s me- leave me the fuck alone you stupid motherfuckers, get a grip and report me so we can have a little conversation about what’s really been going on…threat- and now shut the fuck up all of you. Minions.
#25. hahaha I thought I was the only one that noticed the revolving door of dicks. I think they double park their cocks on her ass, waiting for when a hole is free. Kimmy Little Boots should create another alt and call it Kimmy the slutty alt queen and have a ‘now serving…’ machine close by, just for convenience purposes.
#17 Now that post is comical. To anyone that does not know, Love Lefko was pushed out of Big Daddys by the Fuckles clown over a family dispute and tipping. Loves family tipped Love and not the host, which upset the clown. He told Love to do something about her family or he would. Loves set was cut short and she Left. It would seem this clown thinks he has business telling VIP and guests how to spend their Lindens and on who. This Club has become a club of don’t do as I do, do as I say, by a clown that is a narcissist “the world revolves around him and his self admiration”. As for Jade Kennedy ( Bianca Marchant) There is no surprises that she knows not who Cynthia Denault is. You cannot expect an ignoramus to see past their own self importance. Avoid this club and the drama queens.
I am a host and it is rude to tip the DJ and not the host and from what I heard, her and her family are nothing but drama, so not surprised they would stir it up. I have heard her DJ there and she is so drippy sweet she practically begs for tips. If this was done to someone they work with, sounds to me like someone is butt hurt because they got what they probably deserved in the first place.
I’ve been a host and got great tips, but then I’ve done the full job of advertising, posting, hosting, interacting with the guests, getting more guests in, encouraging tips for the DJ and the club and making sure I do all I can to see everyone has a great time. But if I go to see a friend DJing and all the “host” has done is log into a tip jar and put on their dance hud, what have they actually done for 2 hours, that deserves tipping?
@ Duh Sounds like your butt hurt. Irrespective of your view of the world regarding tipping etiquette, it is still not Fuckles Chuckles business to interfere with ones wish to tip. You say from what you heard , her family is nothing but drama. Seems to me you listen to others unfounded opinions and contribute to drama, then you suggest you have been there and heard her quote “ drippy sweet” begging for tips ??? Most big daddy’s DJ quote “ love up on them tip Jars … and hosts , tip your DJ they working so hard for you … spare change throw in the donation box . Hell your a host seems your just as drippy sweet begging tips ????
Laughing out loud at #22… he’s been sleazing his way around for years, playing the same way. Thinks he’s better than everyone and acts like women should be grateful for his attention; strings them along by skirting the lines of “never made any commitments”. Dog doesn’t change his spots.
#36 no way I’d pay 1k for a single sweater; there are so many clothing creators and we cycle outfits- Buying and forgetting about them until they drift up on a fashion feed. Skins are worn constantly, and very few people actually switch often. The price balance is there because I’m going to buy one skin/tone, but maybe 2 or 3 of the same sweater to get the texture/color I want
#25,38,40, 43,44 ——just so ya know, Ania Baxton posted all of these. She spends her life getting mad jealous of sl Flickr girls and makes posts about them here thinkin she hurting their rep. I was her friend, I know. She makes alts also to harass people
Now dats the tea and tru sl secret
Did the “Photoes” tip you off?
Seems Thalia and her minions are out for combat. We get it you are upset about Brandon and jealous of any girl he is with. Get over it already ,,,, its old.
Lmfao!!’ Check out Ania and friends pissing themselves on here and Flickr And making comments On every post they made about those girls ,,,,, Working hard to make sure all baddy posts about her are downvoted and everyone else‘s upvoted is they appear relevant. This has all consumed their small brains Because someone finally called that cunt out! Wait you will see this comment come up now on their IM chats and pasted to Flickr, and this post get obscene downvoted like she actually has friends. So predictable.
Dude make up your mind, you say “Ania and friends” in your opening line, then you say “like she actually has friends” in your closing line. Go back to high school dude, don’t waste your energy here.
This is all so memberable!
Ania issa jealous girl who sits on sl and Flickr all day lookin at people and tryna create dramaaa. She literally has no rl and lives her life in the game. Talks shit about others lies and tries so cause issue for people she has jealousy for, specifically girls. If ur talented or she knows ur pretty in rl… she after your ass.. Flickr name x a n a x b l a c k o u t. She has multiple alts She messages people on… this girl lives to stalk pixels lol. I never met someone so obsessed with people in sl… whatta sad life for someone 2 live everyday for this and not even realize what a mental problem she has lol! I used to be close wit her and all she does is talk shitttt with her friends and tries to act like she don’t care and is different. And she will keep doing this ,, cuz she got nothing better to do. But at least these girls can know now, Ania is obsessssed with them.
No no no…you have alot all wrong. Ania is a nun in real life. She spends her days preaching the word of Gawd and spends her nights praying for your souls.
Who’s the obsessed one you say? Bitch pleeeease. You coming on sl secrets saying she talks shit…you talking shit too but your trash ass is anonymous. Everyone talks shit. This whole fucking site is made of up of shit talkers. Shut your stupid, obsessed, dumb ass up.
dis trash monkey defends Ania so hard but cuts at kimmy littleboots in a comment above! Hi Ania and aniaaaas 3 friends!! After Ania gets her ass called out on here,,,. we quik to see downvotes on any bad comments about herrrr and new comment appear at the SAME TIME talkin shiiiit of each these girls she posts about this week, posts here and on her Flickr the memberable comment that you posted on absinthe weeks ago,,,, her Flickr and friends Flickr blows up wit IMs of them obsessin over bad comments about her. LMAOOO!! If this isnt enough obvious proof I dont know what is!!!! UR EXPOZED ANIA! Hahahaha!!!! Dumb cunt! You been doin dis to Billie and kimmy and Marina and absinthe and lulu and list goes on and on of others for so long!!!! Earlier post is right, U turn on your friends, now they turn on YOUUUU! Glad we not friends anymore,,,,,,KARMA A BITCH !
Ania Baxton aka xanaxblackout got so much time for that shit ???? don’t she have kids and husband at home !MMHMM !! BUT she spend her time stalking flikr girls, create alt and drama. better back to pino get fuck by all sl creepy like she always did instead of trying so hard getz the others down coz she’s so insecure . ass lick everyone , comments all over flikr XD desperate to be seen!!! problem’s no one care about her ugly pictures or pixels ,same about her jokes all over flikr trying so hard to be funny .she’s that manipulative she get close to ppls she post here , hope this poor thyme and lulu realise it…..
I’m not sure about stalking flikr gorls but she does create alts and drama. Fucked every creep in Pino? yes that sounds like Ania. Insecure and ass licker? totaly sounds like Ania, serial comaenter in Flikr? damn right that’s Ania, leaving awards and shit, desperate to be seen? yes that’s Ania. Ugly pics and pixls? omfg finally someone said it, she’s so ugly, always the same dead face ,,,honestly even a rock has more facial expressions than that bish.,..Trying hard to be funny… yes that is Ania right there. without a doubt. This is all soooo trooooooo.
WELL YOU SEEM TO CARE A LOT! LOLOLOLOL go back to yell and block people ’cause they fave her pics lmao YES WE KNOW ???
Hun.. it sounds to me like you are the obsessed one here, checking what “Ania and her 3 friends” do on Flickr, checking the votes in every comment in here, checking whatever she eats, pukes and shits… damn you are not obsessed you are possessed by a demon and it’s called menopausia. And by the way, next time you go to her place to spy around don’t forget to smile to the security cam! Who is the dumb cunt now? ?
LMFAOOOOO caught by the security orb??????? whatta nooooob lololol
TOO BE FAIR. everyone trashes marina LOL. come on… having a gallery with shitty traffic just proves that.. hell marina even trashes absonthe nd whatever magazine thing she does in public alll the time
Marina and her notecards, a sl classic! Anybody has new ones? I have the ones of her trashing Kiki for flirting with her fuckboi, there’s another one where she’s scheming against Thyme, couple of Billie and Absinthe too. I’ll trade them all for the one she trashes Megan Prumier for stealing a man from her. Thought that girl was a lesbian but you never know.
Oh yeahhhhh….. what about the one time she told everyone Tutsy took a pic of her without her consent and Marina told everyone how horrible he was cause she asked him to take it down and he cussed her out. Thennnm Marina and Kate Bergdorf tried to create a whole meeting—-movement around this ‘abuse’ and send a notecard to everyone. They canceled it I think cause no one attended lmao!
Also that time she accused Nevereux of being sooooo mean to her and cussing her out because she did not do an installation at her gallery. Said Nevereux told her that her work was tooo goood for her gallery. ——even though it is too good
I’ll trade these notecards!!!! Marina is a creator of chaos around all of these people …breaking peoples relationships and making people hate others,,,,while she sits rubbing her hands together grinning alone at her stolen sim!! and we all got the notecards with her name on it to prove it. Doesn’t surprise me to see all this chaos on here.
Do yourself a favor people,,,,,,if you are a receiver of a said notecards or shit talk about an person from marina munter, do NOT believe this shit! If you don’t know the person and do not have ur own personal experience…. Issa lie!
maybe marina makes this posts…. sound like something she would do Lol
lols hows that possible when Thyme fat thigh, is Anias best friend now
2 drama queens ALWAYS so special, so god dammed different and much much more ‘talented’ than all the rest of the flickr gang.
– at least what they tell to otherz
they spend so much time telling they dont care But lolz they so care.
why would Thyme post a pic of her Ego guy wbtween her legs and ask ‘omggggg are my thighs really fat people…not that i caaare but??? Are they?’
LOL – she so do not care does she?
hm…thinking of my answer, Ania has no close friends because she does betray them neverless. So perhaps it IS true!!! hahaha
This one is actually funny since that’s not what thymes post said at all and I think everyone can see clearly now that you are trying way too hard to make her look how you want her to be perceived. People usually lie about others IMs or something… not a public post everyone saw what was said already. Good job you just proved even more that people who post to this site are full of shit
Someone trying to frame someone else ’cause they are the real sad and pathetic losers. It’s obvious that the person who made all those lame posts is the same trying to smear Ania. I know that chick and she’s funny as hell, those secrets are weak, soooo not her style, but still… nice try boo for keeping us all entertained ?
I dont think thyme realize Ania post about her…. and I thought thymes post was funny and did not say all the illiterate rubbish you just posted.
WHY DOES NOBODY LIKE MY STAGES?
Poor Brandong, we aaaaaaall know how impressionable he is….and that Ania is such a skank. Can’t believe he dumped Thalia for that slut,,,,Some guys just like trash I guess,,,
Who the fuck is brandong?
men dont join SL to find nuns, but whores.
boring wifes they have in rl
I joined SL to find nuns…to fuck!
Seems you have slim pickings then..
nooooo he dumped Thalia for Lacuna but she left when she found out brandong was a black wamannnn lmfaooo
That must be the reason why his pics lost quality lmao he gets like half the favings now, dude lost it !
Who is Anita Baxton?
Yea still no clue who you are, Anita baxton.
Whi is Anita Baxton??? srsssly? If youdont know, now you know. Anita Baxton is the #1 super dancer. for reel.
#20 I worked there for a few moments awhile back, and it was a fucking joke. The staff, management, etc. Nothing was organized, they keep changing fonts/logos, and not only that but the Owners at the time are two-faced. Rhoxy club literally would go around asking different girls from clubs to pretty much leave their current/the one they quit/got fired from to work for them. Not worth the hassle OR drama.
I have never seen a club so desperate as The Rhoxy, pretty sad if you ask me.
I’d rather take a dump on The Rhoxy’s logo than work at that place.
I actually was there as well, it was a mess and still is. They couldn’t figure out what style they wanted, changed it half way through during opening (Which I get trying to find a ‘style’ you want. But you are now open and technically established now. Honestly I recently been there looking around and I just find it funny how I never see anyone there, yet its SUCH A SUCCESSFUL CLUB!
AWWWW YOUR SO BITER POOR BABY
The owner should just play the sims 4
sounds like a disgruntled ex employee who wasn’t able to manipulate her way back
Actually it’s called an ex employee who used to be their friend back when. The two Owners at the time would go around taking employees from other clubs right from under them. Idc if they are successful; it’s probably because they lairs, thieves, and so much more. But Im not here to boost your ego but to state my thoughts ?
And I’m sorry, but the owner is not two-faced. She’ll say shit to your face everyday LOL
haters gonna hate. why not congratulate? the rhoxy is a super successful money making club, with an owner who genuinely cares about her staff. there’s a reason so many people are flocking there. follow the money.
Please keep this comedy up, I just choked on my water
If these responses aren’t sarcastic then this shithole club has the worst, most transparent fucking PR I’ve ever seen in my life ?
Who the fuck are you? You getting pissy because you couldn’t handle being around a new club that was figuring out how they wanted their shit? And whatever “drama” you’re speaking of gets tossed out the door. *facepalms* Fucking ignorance is not bliss sweetie. smdh
This completely overblown response may also be why nobody wants to visit your third world club, btw
Welp. This seems like a COMPLETELY well-adjusted response
Damn calm ya farm. You will blow a vein
#40 & #44 – no post has been more accurate. This girls is the worse and if you do not see this yet you will. Billie is a good manipulators and plays a victim….with sometimes a ‘i do not cares‘ attitude but she cares much about this game and her popularity. She is only a friend if she can get something from you…. picture advices , popularity, free things. She is only in this for herselves and is a sad person with sl obsession. Do not be fooled
And whoevers posted 44 I laugh so hard!
Ya nailed it!
She is a sad person who lives her life on SL tryin to control people who come close
As soon as she gets a new friend UP ON FLICKR to show, but tsk tsk tsk those friends never last long.
She manipulates and is a human vampire in all its ways. Not getting her way, she DRAMA!!
And could some one tell her its no longer cool to smoke on ALL pictures, as she did now several years?
We saw you smoke – now move on already huh?
44 – yes and she even took the pic herself ROLF
Omg , stop commenting your own post , don’t you see no one care ??? You seems to don’t know Billie at all but maybe trash her make you feel better with yourself …
This week sucks. Just a bunch of salty people that are jealous of others posting. Boringggg.
#33 & 34 – OH. MY. GOD. To the author….. You are my f***ing hero! I don’t know who any of these people are but can you please take over writing out all the Secrets from this day forward? You’re writing was brilliant. I was in mf tears reading those. So awesome….lol.
So a fucking blog post is getting married now ??? Jesus ! Mav Seetan Is far from married you dumb bitch !
Really? Kandace would be suprised to hear that!
Sl marriages are not real yall delusional playing virtual barbie for too long
#5 Im not surprised angela is a whore and everyone knows it star stop running from truth u making yourself look really really stupid
35. How much do y’all have to hang out at these places y’all are always mad about to get sneak pics like that? I think places like Grandpa’s Garage are creepy as hell and you’d never catch me giving them any traffic no matter what, you’re just boosting business for them.
# 20 Let’s not pretend for a second that The Rhoxy is in any way relevant
This seems like a poor attempt to make it seem like people care about that club
Basic bitch is as basic bitch does
All the drama from these crazy clubs with crazy owners and girls. Rhoxy needs to get over themselves. Why not advertise yourselves without putting other clubs down? Its a shitty tactic and poor business sense. Labyrinth copies every other club and their girls are bad quality. I hired a girl from there for 15 minutes and she didn’t know what to say the whole time lol. It was awkward and I couldn’t wait to leave. Addiction is okay. I went there a few times and most of the girls there were just typing and wouldn’t talk on mic. Got boring real fast. Their owners are making really bad business decisions & seem too busy caring about what other clubs are doing . Bishes will always be a great club to visit. The girls are top quality and very professional. Every cent I paid there was well worth it. New club Vivid is also a really good place to go. Those owners have good reps and have their shit together. The girls are fun and sexy. A lot of laughing and good energy around their place. Monarchy is a joke. They scam their girls and the visitors. All the girls look exactly the same. They force their girls to change their shapes and buy training packages. Id say if you have any interest in good entertainment, try Bishes or Vivid. Owners of both clubs know what they are doing, and stay out of the drama-fest tornado. Their girls are experienced and fun, and I had a pretty good time with each visit.
I just can’t stop laughing at these reviews of whorehouses by men who are so incredibly pathetic that they have to pay women to talk to them, even when they can make their pixels look hot and they can pretend to be anything LOL
What’s it like to be that completely bereft of appeal, charm; of “game”? To know that any woman spending any time with you is only doing so because she’s “very professional” and you’re paying? I can’t imagine waking up every morning knowing I was that guy. How do you even get out of bed?
I feel sorry for you. You spend your entire day sitting at your computer, anonymously judging everyone. You think you are clever and witty and you feel on top of the Secrets world, don’t you? I hire whores to get my dick off. Its not about your opinion, or how you feel about the industry. I’m giving honest opinions about establishments, I have visited. These are actual businesses. You do realize that don’t you? You seem to care a whole shit ton about it though don’t you? LOL. Here’s a profession that’s been around since the dawn of time. I have a great life. Lots of friends, I’m a developer and travel all over the world. I don’t have time for real life relationships, so when I feel like getting off to a hot voice, that’s exactly what I do. You keep eating your fat fried chicken in your fathers basement, while the rest of us do what we want, when we want. Do us all a favor will you? Be Less Ignorant, Please. LOL
smh@this dweeb the whore lover’s last line. what a fucking dud.
LMAOOOO he must have added “please go give me a thumbs up and give thumbs down to the girls being mean to me on SL secrets” to his payment deal last night; he’s got 4 whore friends, isn’t that cuuuuute? Only SL whores though, his “busy life” doesn’t net enough profit to pay for real pussy LOL
I knooow, I bet he actually cleaned the lube off his fingers to type that buttmad little incel rant LOL
“I don’t have time for relationships” translates to “my only chance is women who don’t get to know me”, and the projection is classic. These “businesses” exist because untouchable men exist. He’s that guy lol
I think the funniest part is the flailing to insult how I look when 99% of the “voice escorts” he’s ever paid were actually morbidly obese or they’d be making real money on cam lmao
I dont have time for relationships translates to: I dont have time for relationships lol. Im a busy man. I have a life. So Sorry neither of you have the time to do something productive in your lives. Being too busy here on this site, where you think you flourish, and people are intimidated by you. What a joke. How is all of this wonderful cleverness working out for you in your real life? It must suck to have no friends, or people who truly care about you. Its very obvious. People who are surrounded by love and friends aren’t so bitter and mean to other people. . Misery loves company doesn’t it? Keep it coming. You’ll be talking to yourself after this. You no longer interest me LOL.
keep laughing at your own ‘jokes’ captain obvious
Your opinion means nothing LOL
This club won’t last long just like the others. This club is an exact replica of Bishes a prefab off the MP how ordinary is that? Owner to lazy or broke to put time into paying a professional builder? Or is she to busy fucking everyone in the Nahmz clan for FREE. I will not waste my time ever returning to this club. New club and every week they are involved in bullshit on Virtual Secrets? If that doesn’t scream drama I don’t know what does. Addiction is not a bad club if their owners weren’t complete assholes to their employees, not to mention their build is just trash. Labyrinth is the new upcoming club, as a client I occasionally pop around at these clubs and Labyrinth employees are always having fun on stage and catering to their clients without being money hungry. I get really good vibes from Labyrinth and their employees as well as management team. The Rhoxy offers low grade girls that have bare to no training at all. I requested a simple service and the girl acted as if she was confused she didn’t even know how to operate the cuddles in the chair. I paid her 1k for cuddles and she began moaning and trying to voice fuck me in a private call. Real professional for a brand new club. Not to mention the girls are very money hungry I have never had a decent conversation there with ANY of the girls. Addiction is not bad at all they do have some drama surrounding the club but that will pass if the owners stop acting like bitches.
“I paid her 1k for cuddles” LMAOOOOOO
OMG just stop, that’s the most pathetic thing I’ve read in so long, it even beats “as a client” meaning you’re acknowledging you’re a pitiful mark who can’t get attention from women without paying, ever LOL
You talk about deliberately, habitually putting yourself in the dynamic of having to pay for their time and then call them “money hungry”; what, are you expecting them to pretend they actually like you? What you’re looking for is an actress, it seems. Good thing you’re willing to spend money, because you would be even more lonely if you had to depend on your intelligence or personality.
My point has been made can clients not show love in second life for a good chat about regular shit? Most of these bitches are nasty whores looking for love in SL. I am here to tell you second life is not a damn dating site. Nobody wants to go to a club to meet interesting people and hear the ladies talking about “ My pussy is so wet for you” This is the bullshit they talk about at the Rhoxy as well as their way of addressing clients. You must be a sorry bitch working there and your upset that your poor club was called out on their bullshit. Not to mention go to The Rhoxy and tip less than others ——> don’t expect a conversation from the girls. So yeah, I said “Money Hungry”. Please EVERYONE go to Labyrinth or Indulge and stay away from this low class unprofessional whore house.
Nah, I don’t sell my time to losers LOL it’s worth more than you could ever pay.
slow monday night at the rhoxy lmao
Maybe if you saved those dollars you’re using to give “big” tips so you can screenshot them, you would not be running SL on a literal potato. Like why even play if it looks like that; is that Low graphics? Those pixels are YUGE. You really finding that sexy?
look at all the dead skin all over the floor in that granny club xD
Lol agree and wow you can see who the favs are there.
tbh it’s only one of a handful of clubs on sl that is super active. addiction, bishes, monarchy, impact, VU all have 1-5 dancers at any given time. Lab has lost so much of their popular girls but still manages a fair amount of girls on stage during morning or afternoon sl times. the rhoxy is definitely the most active club at the moment which is why its name is plastered on sl secrets this week.
No one fucking cares. If you like to go to a club, go there. If you don’t, fucking don’t. There is not one club that is any better than another one, Because. They. Are. Not. Real!!! You need competition and competitors to keep things going, it’s how you stay relevent. Girls come and girls go, cause they see the next new shiny thing, but they always go back to the established clubs when the new ones go under. Also are you that vapid that you believe that there are constant people at clubs around the clock in a game? There is always slow times and always busy times. I go to a club to see a certain person(s) who happen to be on stage at that moment, not because there are girls on stage at all times. Lab is going to fold, Rhoxy is going to fold, because the owners only seem to care about being the best and most profitable. The money WILL run out. It also doesn’t help that Labyrinth has a psychopath as an owner, that only is running it to prove some kind of point and will have a mental break down like she has at the last 2 clubs she was associated with. The only clubs that stay around are ones where the owners and managers keep working at it because they enjoy it, and can afford to keep it running, not because they are making money. SL clubs do not make money. period. Just fucking give it up already, sitting here arguing over what club is better is so fucking boring!!!!
It’s only been plastered for self promotion. All I see in all these places is drama. The places I intend to avoid. Yes it seems the girls flock to where the money is, once that dries up, they move on.
Lol it’s because half of addiction and lab went to work there. That’s the only reason it’s packed.
After reading these comments about these various clubs, the people that own them or work in them should feel embarrassed that yet again your shitty club is mentioned this week. No doubt more to come next week.
2. Jesus some people are completely vapid. When creators get off their asses and start actually paying bloggers, like REAL businesses do with advertisers or influencers, then we can talk about the REAL. Until then, don’t expect people to want to pay for a shit website with shit stability and even shittier customer support. I don’t know about you, but I don’t pay to go to work. Bloggers shouldn’t have to, or be expected to either. Period.
I have a fix for this blogger // creator shit.
personally i think bloggers dont help business anyways… most are lame as fuck..dusty repetitive style…and always an ailment for why they couldn’t meet the requirements that THEY signed up for. (we didnt go to them.. they came to us..lol)
so creators .. stop using bloggers. your real customers will follow your brand.
just because these bloggers mass follow people doesnt mean your customers follow them back.. most dont.. i know i dont.
they complain its not a paid job.. and they’re right… do you guys (the creators) know how much business you’re losing giving free shit away to ‘bloggers’ lol i say make em pay.. make em all pay.
make sure your seraphim covered in your events.. post your own ads to flickr/facebook.
utilize your inworld store group.
and let all the bloggers go.
they need us wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more than we need them.
show them. =D
3 bloggers need the free shit to have shit. lmaoo
creators dont need you at alll xD
Lol what. R u stupid? You don’t expect people to pay for what is essentially a hobby? Do you have a real life? People pay to keep up their hobbies all the time. I’ve put thousands into equipment and travel just for my hobby.
i DoN’t PaY tO gO tO wOrk
I will bet your ass you do, whether it’s in the form or gas, car payments, public transportation fees etc to get to work. Sit down.
With the amount of hours I’ve seen my friends put in for one post.. naw mate, not a hobby. A passion sure, but it should be compensated properly if the creator is wanting them to use Flickr Pro. It’s that simple.
You honestly need to look up what a hobby is.
People spend hours on what they like and it is still a hobby. No matter how much you want it to be a real profession it is not. If they can’t afford pro because they are dumb poor losers and the creator wants to get bloggers with pro that is their choice. They owe your friend and other walmart trailer trash nothing.
Roflmao then don’t use it. I am sure they would be fine without users from this oldass game taking screenshots. Cry me a river. Taking photos of your barbie doll isnt real work. It is part of the game. Go get a job
Did incest not make your brain develop? By your thought process, creators in here don’t have real jobs either. Marketing is marketing boo. Bloggers make designers money. Real money. A lot of them are even registered business, pay taxes, have trade marks. You know what real businesses do, pay for advertising. It doesn’t matter if on a large or small scale.
So before you trying and talk all big, do some research in digital economies and real economics and marketing. Fucking bellend.
I did look up and it seems you get their products for free so you can use them to take the photos? That already seems fair. Get real whatever you are doing is just playing a game regardless how much you want to believe it is a productive behavior. Get a job you delusional thot.
Oh, you think marketing companies and advertising companies take payment in product? That’s not how that works. Same with influencers. I’m not a blogger but I’m also not daft enough to think people are being compensated for their work entirely.
But you are neither of those stop comparing barbiedoll screenshots to actual professions in real world idiot
#3. Why are your shoulders on 0? For the most part she does great work, all you had to do was not buy. She didn’t deserve to be on here imo. #4. Buy the skin or wear one you already own. By you not buying it, doesnt seem like you’re confident in how the skin looks with the shape. #5. Tired of seeing this bitch on here #6. I cringe when i see studs talk like they’re men. They really believe in those veinless strap-ons. #27. Shut up if she meshed it she should be able to upload it.
This whole issue/trouble/whatever you want to call it, really has been eye opening. It has shown some seriously ugly personalities, with this whole fiasco. I have seen the so-called “established” bloggers and some blog managers, showing a genuine lack of understanding and empathy towards those who are not pro members on the site. It’s been really interesting, to say the least. The general attitude is, you should be willing to pay for your hobby, unable to grasp that not everyone is in a country that has a great economy, that will allow for that. Then there is the fact that the rate you see for the American’s is NOT the rate you see in other countries. It’s higher btw, for those who are not aware of that fact. As for what caused the largest portion of the panic, it possibly was due to different Flickr staff, saying different things, some of it was not even based on their own rules. There was one staff member that was claiming that no matter how many clicks it takes, regardless if it wasn’t even on your blog, if they locate a cart or price page or something that they can deem as commercial, eventually, they would deem you as being commercial. I think that was the one that was throwing quite a few people into the real tailspin. What has me laughing about this whole thing is, it’s Smugmug who owns this site now, who has stated that they are financially running into large issues, hence the reason they are doing what they are doing. Flickr has always hemorrhaged money. It’s the reason it was sold, originally. It doesn’t make any money and I personally think that Smugmug bought it because it was their biggest competitor, for years. They now have the full… Read more »
I only use Flickr for their group system and always have been. Plus comments are easily readible and photos can be viewed chronologically from everyone like old-school blog feeds. Furthermore, been with Flickr from the beginning and it had not been a website made for profit which later changed when they attracted more crowds due to costs rising. However, they did not run into issues until they sold their business over to Yahoo which ran it into the ground as the mother company had problems itself. Meanwhile SmugMug is …. never mentioned and unknown in professional photography or digital art circles as most use different portals to sell and have their own websites. My point is – I can afford Flickr Pro but I would consider that stupid to buy because 1) I have an unlimited storage server for the cost of what they want for a month … only that this is my fee FOR A YEAR (so yep – US prices seem more agreeable on the surface wheras UK pays more), 2) I can always move my photos and archive them on other social media with links to full resolution/size leading to my own server, 3) SmugMug … is awfully rude to their consumer base – be it paying or potential clients. 4) they messed up legally big time. Their former price for pro supposedly had been a discount yet no one known there had been a ‘discount’ but they doubled peoples’ prices … without a note. Maybe that supposed discount appeared to someone somewhere but as all others, I seen the lower price as full price. I think we all miss pre-yahoo flickr and probably one day it will be remade by someone else but until then I’d be wherever most people are and for now it… Read more »
Yea you are suppose to pay for your hobby. Why is this a surprise?!?!? People pay for hobbies all the time. If you’re that poor, maybe you shouldn’t be wasting your time on sl??
Besides that point, you’re probably right about Flickr etc, but bloggers should actually make their own websites for their blogs like the way it used to be. I never understood that concept of people just posting on Flickr and calling it a blog post. No, it’s not a blog post, it’s just a picture you uploaded.
Why am I paying for the games i play!?!?I spend a lot of hours playing them and i put a lot of work hitting diamond! They should pay me!1!1!11!!!!!! /s
I’m not sure where you get the idea that you or anyone else being unable to afford something means anything; it doesn’t. If you can’t afford something, you just can’t have it. That’s life. That doesn’t mean that companies should offer things for free if they don’t want to. How utterly bizarre and entitled to even think that way, honestly; you sure you’re not American? lol
@BeLess these are the trashy fucks that haver go fund me’s for colored pencils and trips to Disney, remember?? and a few weeks ago some retard wanted people to help her move because she had a dog.. they’re hands are constantly out.. now i know why these hoes wear leggings.. no money they dont need no fucking pockets
Since you lacked reading comprehension, I’ll help you there a bit. As I stated originally, I am a pro member. Are you sure you are not American there, since you sure do sound like one. Not everyone can afford it though or in some cases, due to where they live, it’s not that easy. There are a variety of reasons, but the one thing that appears to be lacking in this whole shit show is a little empathy for those individuals.
Empathy toward some sl loser who can’t use flickr? Ya ok.
I’ll save my empathy for people who can’t eat tonight, thanks. People who don’t have access to clean water, people without homes… people who can’t blog on flickr for free though? lol nah
Seems like you are just salty. Go suck a virtual dick and pay for flickr. ?
imagine paying for flickr. lmao
#20 I wouldn’t be going there after the drama and shit going on there. Oh well seems to be turning out like every other club.
Who would even dream of going to a club with that name LOL
The drama never lasts long when it comes to Rhoxy. If you were actually paying attention to the club, you might have realized that.
i have fun there, if u not… go somewhere else. plenty of fun clubs out der. rhoxy poppin, especially jessica woowee. get thatt bett. pineapplez.
actually the rhoxy is the highest money making club in sl. if i wasn’t such an idiot i would still be apart of it.
How could you possibly know who makes the most money ?
Also that’s not leo
Your not an idiot
^ Couldn’t agree with you more. #20 – Just proves that every club has turned to shit.
Exactly. It’s always the same shit. Drama. Jealousy and competion.
Can you elaborate on the drama, please? It seemed pretty drama-free when I visited last.
Because it is hidden. Most is behind closed doors,but we will see some girls have already left there.
#13 Yep, seen that myself first hand, he tried that with my partner… best of luck buddy
The rest of you, i bet half of you don’t even know who half the people are that have been posted on Virtual secrets? i sure as shit don’t.
#38- lulz! I actually noticed she was reposting the same pics. I saw some come on my stream and thought… was this already posted?! That girl posts (and reposts) many times a day and the pics are not even good. It is literally the same thing over and over… I got bored and unfollowed her. Hungry for Flickr popularity much? Get a life.
another sucker for faves. you hardly see one comment or fave more than she.
Looking back some months u see the same pictures posted up to like 3 times maybe twisted a bit, more zoom but jesus. How needy can u be?’
why people comment again on same pictures they did 3 months back? They already forgot LOL
#43- what a fantastic way to go
-depends if she washed 😀
Can someone please put that narcissistic fuck SJ Codeine up here?? Plenty to talk about!
#49 shocker. they’re both sluts.
Can we have some actual secrets next week
Good grief – there should be a rule against being allowed to post if your spelling is up shit creek. If you can’t an intelligent sentence together, please don’t drop your illegible secrets. This week’s lot has the readers losing IQ points by the post.
And before someone gets their back up about English not being someone’s first language, save it. It’s not mine either but with a bit of education….
Check your own. I would suggest, ” If you can’t an intelligent sentence together, please don’t drop your illegible secrets.” is less than legible also ? ? ? ? ?
No let then post with broken English. It is a reflection of their intellect and we can make fun of both the content of the post and the poster.
. If you can’t an intelligent sentence together????? Doh ?
Flickr is losing money. If they do not find a way to sustain themselves they will be gone and everyone will lose their pictures. For people who make money in Second Life, it makes business sense to pay for their Pro Account. If you’re a blogger, you should either go pro or follow the rules.
I do not earn much in Second Life. I write for a magazine and a blog, but I do make more than the price of Flickr. I pay for Pro because I send many Flickr mails to SL people for my writing and the free account limits the ability to mail people. It is the cost to do the work.
Besides, it is not much. It’s 1800 lindens. That is not a lot. It’s the price of a coffee and a donut.
There’s also the benefit of reaching a wider audience to suck the e-cock of, which is about all flickr is used for these days!!
But I can’t pay for flickr after spending my government stipend on bills and daily Mcdonald’s.
Flickr ….. biggest joke around !! I have to laugh at these people doing “erotic” work on their pixel dollies?. Get a real hobby like hiking or golf, not sitting on your ass for hours trying to porno up your Barbie doll!!
This dude said go play golf. Okay, boomer.
But you care enough to scope out people on Flickr and come here to comment… makes sense. Why do you care so much about what other people are doing with their time? Get a life and get a new hobby XD
Did they hit a nerve? Must be a fulfilling thing in life to suck avatar cock for likes and fame.
It will always floor me how people that come here to shit talk stupid things about what people do, think they are better than those they shit talk. You do realize you have an obsession with avatars online and you navigate Flickr during your time so you can comment and complain? About avatars, anonymously. Not something actually worth anyone’s time for example, someone scamming someone for real money or something. You need a therapist if you think what you’re doing actually makes sense or makes you better
I love wasting my time for a few minutes here to trigger some delusional whales with sand up their vag. Because they have such fragile ego and gets triggered easily. Leading to them responding with long blah blah blah blah
And I love writing these long blah blah blah and seeing that you read it and waste your precious time to respond to it, because you’re desperate to make some other invalid point no one cares about. Seems you and I are the same, but at least we’re admitting it ;D
I dont mind wasting time reading some comments here. It doesnt take long and its funny. At least my life doesnt revolve around a virtual doll game with fake pretend relationships ?
Cool me too. We can come here and revolve our lives instead around being keyboard cowboys about virtual dolls. Glad we agree.
Also… how do you know that i even play this game? Maybe I’m playing devils advocate just to find losers like you that say they don’t play the game in their title to try to prove something, but really do play. maybe you’re salty over a failed fake relationship and now in denial so had to make sure your title was clear that you in fact, don’t play this game. ;D see how assumptions work?
Nah i found this game through britbong and monster factory. Seems like you are projecting because i didn’t say a word about you
Hit a nerve? Must be fulfilling to be obsessed with avatars online and commenting on a gossip site about it because u got nothing better going for you. Lulz
To the person who contributed #49…..
1. None of your business.
2. You. Are. An. Asshole.
Just be happy that you have stalkers that care so much abut your life than their own, i personally don’t know who these two are, but if they are happy together than so be it?
His profiles are pretty damn funny. Considering it’s the same as every other male looking for some tail on flickr instead of the real world.
” look how deep and emotionally broken I am girls”
Let me take out my violin.
He’s played everybody and is a serious asshole. Trust me. I’ve worked with him. But, hey, people will find out. Whoever that girl he’s with now? She will find out, too. They just suck up to him because of his fake blog awards (where he picks who he wants to win anyway — I know because, once again, I’ve worked for him) and other fame seeking activities in sl. Oh, and joke is on all of you, his ex faked her death to get away from him. he used it as a way to get attention and sympathy from all you losers. Unfortunately for sane people, that’s what most the crazies in sl like anyway. “woe is me, i’m dead inside.” lol — 5 months later…
Yikes. Okay. I agree that he moved on much faster than I expected. It makes me sad because, yes, unfortunately his ex truly did pass and was a very close friend of mine. I have my own real life proof/ways of knowing of that, that I don’t feel comfortable sharing publicly, as I knew her for about a decade; and I still speak with her RL mother from time to time. But yes, I have seen the obituary. I even have two copies of the actual program from her funeral. So, yeah, she’s gone. Putting that rumor to rest right now. — But as for the boyfriend, I don’t know him well enough. We’ve spoken several times but not enough for me to actually get to know him. If he’s really as shitty as people are saying, then it’s just a shame he had us so fooled. ?
There’s enough data and information pulled to show that she faked her death. The extravagance about it alone was enough to set people off into investigating. lol I’m going to believe what I’ve seen. Facts. Thanks for sharing, though.
As for the male-like person in that photo? (s)he’s very charismatic and charming at first. Then before you know it (s)he’ a little gremlin sucking your soul. That’s why (s)he has a new set of girls (s)he hangs around every few months. Never any guy friends. And, everything (s)he has in SL (all his projects) is so that people will tolerate his b.s. Good luck to them.
I’d like to see this “data” you speak of, lol. It literally has my heart racing, and I want to cry, that you’re even saying these things. The girl I knew for years is dead. She’s dead, and she’s not coming back. Whatever shit people in SL are making up about her faking her death are wrong. I wish they weren’t, but they are. Maybe you all won’t ever believe it, and I guess it doesn’t matter, but it’s kind of slap in the face to us who knew the real her, know her real family, and are still dealing with her loss every day.
I’m sorry can you tell me which one is about someone who died, please and thank you.
Was just replying to the person who made the comment about the ex-girlfriend of the dude in #49 faking her death.
Triggered whale spotted. Man the harpoons!
#3 – also she made one dress 5k and she does horrible rigging for them, these creators needs to step their pussy up.
This has to be Jourde im cackling hunty
They have to blame the rigger if it is.
So tired of the flickrXblogger drama. “LOST ALL MY HARD WORK”LMAO. First of all, get a life you fucking loser. Blogging for second life is about as lame and pathetic as it gets. Second, their site their rules. Quit being so fucking entitled. No one owes you shit.
Third, that girl’s joke was fucking hilarious.
I think facebook for sl is the most pathetic because nobody under 45 uses facebook and also they made facebook with their virtual trolldoll.
Flickr is basically a dating site anyway.
Fat, unwashed bloggers brown nosing other equally unpleasant bloggers and designers.
#17 how many people do YOU have on your friends list? If you don’t own a business, blog or use your Facebook for marketing you wouldn’t have alot which makes it alot easier to keep track of who is who. Those that do marketing with their FB have tons of friends and with Facebook making SLers change their name its hard to keep track of who is who so before having a cow because someone isn’t perfect, get a grip. No one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.
At the same time, shame on the owner for that kind of response.
#1 – My light? Good start. #2 – Can’t argue with that. #3 – Well that’s why they make timed demos, to see if you don’t spot the shit, at least this one had a demo so you don’t waste money on crap. #4 – It is ghetto!!! #5 – I’m amazed he gets one let alone two. Posted by self just to brag more than likely. #6 – Ouch, burn! #7 – Fuck your novel, can’t even read that shit on the left. #8 – What the fuck, another? What is this shit? #9 – What the fucking hell… ZOOM ON THAT SHIT! #10 – Do you need to tell anyone his photos are shit? Don’t people have eyes? And lol at the not lgbt friendly, plus, at the end you are claiming everyone in SL has a beautiful avatar? Get the fuck outta here with your pandering shit and use a spell checker next time. #11 – What about the name? #12 – Yawn… #13 – Writing that down right away. #14 – Like they don’t know what they are doing is shit… just file a report and wait on this, that crap has to be reviewed manually and it might take a while, they don’t get away with it sooner or later they get banned you dense motherfucker. #15 – I only had to look at those nails to know that. #16 – That is one shitty picture. #17 – Fuck Facebook already… #18 – That actually made me laugh, and talk about calling others on their incompetence… #19 – This made the laugh too! Who ever the fuckers are. #20 – What is this even? #21 – They do dress like clowns, dressed for the job! #22 – Someone sounds jealous of John. #23 – That… Read more »
#36 – Skins are expensive in SL because of SL’s history in Content Creation. — When Second Life first came out, there was no mesh. A store called Naughty Designs charged $L5000 per skin per face makeup/tattoo/scar etc. before appliers existed. At the same time, other content creators were creating furniture, jewelry, and hair with Second Life’s built-in prims and sold at the cost similar to now at about L$200-300. Similarly, all clothes were painted on, or what we now know as “baked on mesh” and cost similarly. As the years past, the prices of things in Second Life have stayed close to the same. Skins cost less now, some if not most charging around L$700-800 now.
As for retexturing clothes at events… I completely agree. As a fan of a good ole fashion t-shirt, I would re-buy mesh of a good fitting mesh tee if the creator had released new textures I like.
Would I pay L$1000 for a Sweater instead of a skin? Heck yes. If the creator frustratingly put the design I want in the Fatpack Exclusive. Pay more than L$1000. Girl, bye.
#39 I didn’t know that Sky (by the way it is not aka dumbass her legacy name is Skyvivi Resident want me to give you an example by posting your legacy name and user name here so that you better understand that concept or do you have it now?) had clients, that’s odd given that I know her and where she works. SO, let’s just talk about what you are really mad about (want me to insert your name here? no?) You no longer have control over a certain person’s life and you are angry about that. See a psychologist or psychiatrist…yeah probably a psychiatrist that way they can give you some meds to control your level of crazy. Jealousy is so ugly but jealousy over a situation that ONLY happened in your little head and that you have held on to for over a year is just pathetic. Sky has never done anything to you. You on the other hand have berated and attacked her repeatedly. MOVE ON. Good grief. If you really can’t move passed this seriously check yourself in somewhere. It is so sad that you have such a need to control someone to this degree. Get a life honey, second life, real life hell try alien life if it will move you passed your little crazy jealousy of a woman who has done nothing to you ever. You are just pathetic at this point.
a.k.a. in British English
a.k.a. in British English
It’s a short hand way and abbreviation to say “Also Known As”
I am well aware of what aka stands for. It is most usually utilized in the context of an alias. Honestly I find it hilarious that you chose that to come at me. Why don’t you call me or hit me up on Facebook, you have both. No need to play on here.
Ahahahaha you’re one of those that had an sl fb. No further comments needed
2, 7 and 45: People need to get over this Flickr thing. The TOS has been there the whole damn time. Nothing is free. If you can eat out all the time and or pay for premium in SL… just pay for flickr pro too. What are your priorities other than bitching like whiny babies?
Because they are poor and need to spend that money on tacobell. Please have some sympathy gosh
#13’s Author sounds a bit salty! Yes, Casper is a flirt, but honestly, what DJ isn’t? That is how DJ’s and hosts make bigger tips! Being personable and flirtatious is part of that! As far as club owners watching out….selfishly, I have to say don’t hire him, cause I would hate to lose him! He is reliable, flexible and has filled in so many times for me when I am needing a DJ! Not to mention he has put his own L’s into the contest boards to make a bigger pot for the winner! (doesn’t this sound like a total douche bag that you shouldn’t hire?) Keep your chin up sweet cheeks and don’t listen to salty bitches!
Good luck with Casper he spends all his time sending his real life cock picture to anyone stupid enough to accept his Bs, No point telling me he is not like this or we got him wrong because i seen it first hand and seen lots of proof. He is just a sad lonely guy real life attempting to look good in secondlife, but i am very sure plenty of the people reading this from the strip clubs know him well as he pays a lot for cuddles and then begs for freebies and real life hook ups. so if a cock picture sending fuck boy who will scare of all your clients is your thing go for it lol
He’s a player point blank. The reason he helped you. You probably fucked him. The end.
Let’s not forget his RL Cock pic that he hands out to the women, even to the ones who are in a relationship. He is a sleazy, dusgusting POS.
Yep, there’s that too. He hands them to his hosts on their first shifts. He brags about all the girls he fucks. He brags about stealing women from men. He’s a sleaze. He claims to be a Dominate. HA he’s a submissive cuckhold. He was in my box last night while his new girl, Mali, was there. Asking how late I stay up or if I could come on super early. Nah, I’m not helping you to cheat on your girl. He’s sick, mentally sick.
Try’s Fucking sisters, playing them against each other ? Fuck off with this stupid comment.
Sounds like #13 and DJ Codeine are related. They both do the same thing!
Codeine is a true worthless piece of shit. He thinks he’s somebody special because he DJs in SL. Yet, he doesn’t have a damn thing going for him in RL. The worthless fuck has no job, he lives with his mommy, neglects his son. And he’s almost 30. What a pathetic fuck.
just sounds like someone got their itty bitty feelings hurt, its a fucking game all it will ever be….
It’s not a game when Codeine launders money from girls. That bastard has physically beat the shit out of women RL. He gets drunk and beats the shit out of whoever he is dating.
well that part is not cool, but as for the rest in SL….it is a game relationships in sl are a joke, its to easy to cheat..say one day she doesnt want to put out, theres another waiting in line to put out, its a joke
I agree…the SL relationship part. Especially with Codeine. He cheats left and right. If his current girl knew just how many he has waiting on the side… He’s a walking joke. Walking shit storm. The dude is pathetic as they come. He is well known for being high/drunk when he DJs. Claims Phil sucks his dick and that Phil is his bitch. He has no respect for anyone, including whoever he is “dating”
your just Salty quit crying and put a band aide
on your feelings snowflake
#36 Skins are expensive because good skins, realistic ones that aren’t just photographs badly ripped onto a skin template with shitty smeared nose holes (looking at you Not Found, your whole store is garbage, do you think we can’t see the eyelashes on there? lol) are probably the hardest thing to make, texture wise. Making meshes is definitely hard, I’m not saying it’s not, but if you put a shitty texture on that mesh, that mesh is worthless. Meanwhile, better textures on even full perm meshes will sell just fine. People (mostly) don’t change skins the way they do clothes, so comparing a skin to a single color sweater is just fallacious, unless they’re gonna wear that sweater every day for a few months. If that’s the market you want, make men’s clothes LOL
“probably the hardest thing to make”. Probably? So you don’t know, you haven’t actually made a mesh textured it and rigged it, and you haven’t made a skin. Gotta love it when someone with no experience has so many opinions and just spreads random information. Anyway on topic of #36. There are a few factors at play here. First is obviously supply and demand, the market is saturated with clothing, as compared to “skins”. Other things to take into consideration is the fact how much use you get from a single skin vs a clothing piece etc. These are all the business and market and logistics sides of it. However from a creator and production side i see your point. Creating a mesh, texturing it, then rigging it for multiple bodies is significantly more hours spent than creating a skin. Some can argue that creating a human skin requires more artistic and technical knowledge than say making a sweater, it’s hard to argue an opinion because there are so many factors. However if we are talking about maximum quality of creating a skin texture for a realistic face, vs modeling texturing and rigging a realistic sweater, the sweater requires significantly more technical and artistic skillsets. Now yes the sweaters you see on sl are mostly basic, folds are random and unrealistic, no one pays attention to fabric type, how the fabric type would affect folds, taking int account form, shape, effect of gravity etc so the average sweater you see on sl is not that impressive nor does it require much skill to make. However the same can be said about skins on SL, they are terrible when compared to what a skin texture should look like. Everyone on sl looks like a barbie, it is just as bad in… Read more »
thats when these people are actually making them.. most of SL’ers outsource anyways and do nothing.. not even the ad work.
Gosh, it’s almost like if you could actually read, you’d see where I clearly said “hardest thing to make, texture wise”. That makes your whole buttmad rant completely useless LOL
If you had actually read the secret, the secret was talking about how a skin maker only makes a texture and sells it significantly higher than a sweater that requires a lot more hours to make. You also missed the point of my so called “rant” because you clearly don’t seem to grasp the content of the text you read. I was also explaining how regardless of difficulty level one assumes, making a face texture is a 1-2 day work day workload at best where a sweater is 7-8 days+.
You should consider reading things slower and perhaps 2-3 times over to actually comprehend and understand them before responding to them so you can be less ignorant with your responses. (pun completely intended)
The whole point is you invented an offense to respond to, since I never said making a skin was harder than making a mesh, and my point that a good mesh with a shitty texture is worthless stands. Ditto on the fact that skins get more use than any single clothing item. But you’re welcome for the opportunity to climb on what is obviously a favorite soapbox!
#5: lmao ☕
Why can’t people post good secrets, like the fact the m.birdie Facebook is an impersonator if m.birdie and was recently caught by m.birdie herself?
Why impersonate someone on fb? Crazy people
This Elvi girl should be ashamed for supporting and working with Apple Fall, Most of Apple Fall items are downloaded from 3D banking sites.
What is she talking about ? she doesnt even know anything about the 3D market, she is supporting people that purchase meshses to meshers, her event is full of people that purchase customs meshses like please gtfo noob bitch.
Your time would be much better spent targeting some of the other designers who are actually consistently stealing content, rather than one of the grid’s most high profile designers who isn’t going to suffer a penny because of some petty online drama. I wouldn’t say I’m a friend of Apple’s, we’re nowhere near that close and have had our own misunderstandings, but I’ve known him enough to know that his work is his own. I don’t scrutinise all his work against 3D model selling websites, I admit, but I’m assuming neither you nor anyone else actually is, otherwise you would be commenting some proof right now. I don’t know what your motivation is, but as a designer who struggles to reach the heights that Apple has achieved, I can understand that maybe you’re a disgruntled designer hoping to bring others down on your way to “the top”, but it just doesn’t work like that. It’s understandable that maybe you’re frustrated or whatever, but it’s just disgusting to try and ruin someone’s livelihood because you want a slice of the cake. Maybe some of Apple’s work is similar to something you’ve seen online, but here’s a little reality check for you: when we’re stuck for ideas, or in need of inspiration, we all look online. Some examples; a few months ago me and another creator both released tents based on a similar set of images off Pinterest; then maybe about a few weeks later, Apple released a fireplace that I could tell was based on the same inspiration I’d used for a fireplace before. Did I go crying to Virtual Secrets? Nah, I let the respective designers know just in case someone else started drama, had a little laugh about it, and (I’ll happily admit) silently felt a bit miffed that… Read more »
I think you are preaching to the deaf. They accuse me of taking models, can’t prove it because I haven’t. They then change tactic and say I’m doing all of this reverse engineering decimation bullshit and again it comes with no proof, because it’s not true either.
Their problem isn’t that they think somebody is the community is doing bad business, their problem is with me and it always will be ‘until the end of time’ in one of their words. Calling it a witch hunt against me by the way doesn’t help your case.
By all means carry on until the end of time. I can sleep tonight knowing you’ll never find anything because there is nothing to find. That’s the simple fact of the matter. What you can find is many videos of me making my stuff from scratch on the store Facebook page if anybody is interested (doubtful).
The people that matter to me know the truth and that’s all I care about.
I know exactly who is posting this too, it’s the same few names every time. L, E I’m not going to stoop to your level by exposing your names here just know that I know ok.
Oh Apple how nice of you now wanting to not “stoop to our level”, how mature! Now I wonder what names are those! But there you were always front row of the downfall of a brand you didn’t like, any competition, there you were setting more fire. You know you are a very chaotic individual? always taking the time to respond to us, you know since the beginning you could have just ignored it all and moved on with your life, right? If you’re so secure of yourself you shouldn’t have anything to defend. I stopped giving a fuck about you years ago but you keep throwing shit at the fan and it’s just hard to move on, keep doing so! Spicing up my lame so boring poor life ?
A real designer? Yes I think not. Provide to anybody here a SINGLE wireframe comparison between an Apple Fall item and said 3D sites? It’s appalling how you try to destroy SL Creators. Again you state Elvi’s event is full of people who purchase custom meshes – i.e. they have a team – THATS FINE! It’s called running a company and have a team who work on YOUR IP and it’s original content. Jeez, honestly – it’s laughable. That’s not the same as (1) stealing other content creator meshes using a corrupt viewer – that’s IP Infringement dummy and (2) taking 3d Meshes from platforms where you breach the TOS e.g. Turboquid – that’s called License Infringement. None of which Apple Fall has done, and surprise (not surprised) no links, poly comparisons, wireframe comparisons, uv map comparisons.
At this point “Real Designer” you are embarrassing yourself, not only that but if your name does get out to the SL Creator community trust me you will find this kind of bullshit much harder to continue. You don’t think they all talk, of course they do.
If you have proof post it. If you post nothing, you are zero credibility and we are all just laughing at you. Quite simple really.
It was the same last week, someone saying AF & CGtrader….I asked the OP twice, to produce a sample. Zilch, Nada, he never answered back. So that tells me a lot about this nonsense.
Lmao the amount of times Apple has gotten exposed here is uncanny. No one is gonna show you any Wireframe comparison. The thing is that Apple is clever enough to remesh, decimate, and change the whole mesh and UV for it to be totally different, but its still the same CGTrader item, what some may not know is how easy is to bake/transfer the textures from one model to another with different UV LOL so yeah, may the witch hunt continue to the end of times ?
And this is where I know you are talking out of your ass.
1 – any mesh creator knows the effort to do all that to a high poly model and bring it sufficiently into SL is a lot of work, so for anybody who “can” mesh and AF can clearly it would take you TWICE as long to do that than to just model the item your self as you can create clean topology from the beginning e.g. seams on pillows.
2 – it seems to well everybody apart from a strange two people who keep posting secrets somebody is trying to hurt this creator personally. That’s strange. You can keep posting the comments or secrets but if anybody does find out your SL name (and I am sure AF knows who is trying to hurt him) beware. LL is now MUCH more reliant on SL merchant fees and income (especially with the recent news on Sansar). Now they have become a valuable asset to LL. Gives them a bit more weight if they have to file against people. Just sayin.
Keep digging your own grave, will be a shame when your only outlet will be here ?
oh and also edge loops and things you can derive comparisons. YET STILL NOT A SINGLE LINK, COMPARISON, WIREFRAME YOU NAME IT. Jeez. Surprise.
Retopology, Decimation, Zremesher, takes legit 1 click and a few second to retopo a 3d model, same as doing seams, select a loop click around, done, could also smart unwrap but makes ugly uvs yeah, man dont try, you just dont know who you are talking to rn. AF downloaded a lot of items, he surely created some from scratch but he still downloaded some. bye now.
No it really doesn’t. You clearly don’t know a thing. Ok I will give you a chance show me two comparisons then explain each difference. Go on. If you don’t, it will be final word to me. Without a single image you have zero credibility. And I know exactly who you are. I know.
It doesn’t? The fuck? You are either really slow or really dumb lol. I genuinely don’t give a fuck for this drama but I can’t let go the fact that y’all so dumb. Zremesher: Set remesh to Same or Half > crease and keep creases, hit Zremesh > wait a few seconds (or ur pc is crap and takes longer) and voila you got the same item with different topology and from there just create some loops and UV it (and hey if you don’t wanna do that, just polygroup by UV > keep groups at zremesh and voila you can unwrap by groups, even quicker!). It’s quicker to take a created mesh and change it than come up with something from scratch, but hey whatever y’all in SL can stay being fake double faced and support whatever comes first but then cancel whoever comes second, and to the ones saying that Apple didn’t push people down on his way up: you clearly don’t know who he really is and the amount of influence he has had on the downfall of other creators. But whatever, y’all will still defend and support because that’s your nature. Have fun!
apple fall is a talented creator. you clearly have no idea how much work, time, effort, and the overall skill it takes to create.
We arent talking about being talented or not, or how much time as to be spent to make an item, if an item is downloaded from a 3D banking site, it is downloaded, no matter how talented the creator is, period.
Before I start I do apologize for any spelling mistake once English is not my native language, however I will do my best to be clear. As an attentive Sl customer and a former mesh creator, even if only outside SL, I need to say that I DO CARE to be enlightened about creators that create their stuff be it clothes, furniture, skins or etc from scratch and those that actually try to get way by trying to bypass the system in order to get lindens and credits at the expense of the others’ ideias or work. Coffee break on his comment about AF wrote “it isn’t that the customers are ignorant… we just Don’t Care that he does… as long as he makes quality items that don’t break any laws” Well, NO! I DO personally CARE about to whom I give my money to! Yes, the same money that pays creators the inworld expenses and even in same cases their RL weekly/monthly wages. I care to whom I buy stuff from, and if I am being cheated or not, once I actually understand how time consuming the creative mesh process can be which makes that a “true creator” builds less in a month and actually may have to charge more so that he/her can continue to keep going on. AF is one of the stores I like in SL but not even by far the only one. To people that say “one of the grid’s most high profile designers who isn’t going to suffer a penny because of some petty online drama” oh yes they will have consequences, starting by loosing my money and eventually the money of others that care. I respect all genuine creators and a good work when I see it. Keep in mind here are… Read more »
Hi Attentive Customer…your English was good, btw!! I see what you are saying, but I just have to think that we consumers/residents, unwittingly pay a lot of lindens to a lot of designers that have total disregard for legalities 🙁 For me, I am in SL to enjoy myself and make use of it’s creative outlet for me to decorate, landscape, etc. I don’t want, nor have time or the experience, to try and figure out who is on the up & up or not . AF is one of my most favored stores to shop. Until I am given “proof” that what he does is against ToS, any infringements, etc, I will continue to shop there. I hope you do the same. Rumors/innuendos/these kind of posts, without supporting documentation as proof, is nonsense until proven otherwise 🙂
You are a very sad person. Stop blaming other people for your own problems. You make these generic statements about her and me yet you’ve never found any evidence to back up your claims (and never will) yet you keep crowing on. You don’t even have enough conviction to put your name to your opinion which makes your opinion worth less than nothing.
I know it’s a complex notion to understand that some people work hard, and have worked hard and have meshing experience before they came to SL but I don’t want to put too much strain on your tiny brain by asking you to look past the end of your own nose.
Is calling Elvi a noob bitch the best you have? That truly is tragic. (Your jealousy is showing big time).
I hope you have another job ‘real designer’ because you’re obviously spending your time here instead of working to improve your own skills which means you will fail, and evidently are given your levels of salt.
So keep hating, keep coming here and posting your crap. Keep blaming everyone for your own failures. Me and Elvi will keep working hard and reaping the rewards for that. I know who’s the loser in this situation (hint: it’s you).
It’s easy to cry and blame the world for what you don’t have, easier than accepting the truth. How is it living in your world? It must be dark and lonely. I’m not even mad or upset about what you’ve posted about me or Elvi. I just feel sad for you.
You can blabla and speak around what i have said, and talk about how unpolite and gentle i m, but that is not the topic right here.
Dont try to defend AF by speaking that much about things that arent even related to the topic. Anybody that goes into 3D banking sites knows and can easely proove that AF items are download from there, AF just change the topology and retextures them, you can keep saying that i m jealous or anything and go off topic if you wish, But if you knew who i’m you wouldnt say so, i alrdy am an established brand on sl and 3d modeling in my rl work, i got a store that sells over thoudsands of items monthly and i m in the biggest sl monthly events, so dont worry for me, my success is already done. And also i have AF in my friendlist and he respects me and my work, i m just commenting here anonymously because the truth has to be shown, Now back to the topic, and to anwser people that knows nothing about 3D, AF been downloading models since years alrdy, there is nothing new about it, only ppl that knows nothing about 3D banking site woiuld say he doesnt, but thats ok, i dont blame any of the shoppers or fans with 0 knowledge.
“But if you knew who i’m you wouldnt say so, i alrdy am an established brand on sl and 3d modeling in my rl work, i got a store that sells over thoudsands of items monthly and i m in the biggest sl monthly events, so dont worry for me, my success is already done.” Such big balls and such grandiose statements…. put your money where your mouth is. Who are you?
@a real designer I understand your frustration here …& yeah you are right AF does download from 3d banking sites I’ve actually known this myself for years. But, I don’t think you quite understand that it isn’t that the customers are ignorant… we just Don’t Care that he does… as long as he makes quality items that don’t break any laws consumers will buy it….Consider this a lesson in “working smarter not harder”.Yeah, it’s kinda sucks that he can do this but life is Unfair *gasp* and you are just gonna have to deal with it.
You say you have a successful store so why don’t you focus on yourself & your own work instead of getting your panties in a bunch over someone else’s work. Lashing out like this will do nothing for you in the end & the consumer base will still buy what they feel like buying no matter how it conflicts with your own personal ethics.
I have no idea about the apple fall drama and what is going on with it so i have no opinion on it. However just wanted to point out that this comment was probably one of the dumbest most unintelligent comments i have read on this site so far and that is saying something.
How do you even …jesus christ.
my reply was @Coffee Break btw.
#2 – The cost is around 16 cents per day to go pro on flickr. So in real world terms, if you found 2-4 pop cans per day and got the deposit back you too could afford flickr pro.
#8 – People are going to make a joke of it cause it’s so laughable. “Lack of respect?” then you call people elitist? Get over yourself.
#14- Elvi has a huge point and they don’t have to list out names. I am getting sick of people taking the side of the thief.
#18 – *sighs* Can you get off of the computer and actually educate yourself on what blackface is? This is not blackface.
#38 – Photoes?
#37 Huh? Please make sense when you’re trying to insult someone.
#4 it might look ghetto but I’m still making coins off of it and whoever made it making coins off it as well, I got people who go out and get whole new bodies because of a shape I made and y’all mad for what? So tired of you bitches.
You sound like a walmart dumpster baby. Get a job
Ayyyyy can I get a link? It’s a cute skin and shape
Not making enough coins to buy the skins you wanna use in your ads though huh LOL
It doesn’t just look ghetto, it looks BROKE. Broke bitches post pics in demos, period.
#5 till y’all can’t provide proof proof I’m tired of seeing the same shit anybody can talk out the ass but the facts is what matters but since you know it all we both fucking her ?? this is sl shit what if he has alt what if I have a alt he making me happy on SL that’s all that matters have you ever heard mind the business that pays you, you all some miserable bitches.
you talk like you got worms in ya vag@mymeshpussytastegoodcuzimsofatihaventseenmyrealoneinyears. -pukes
You are not fucking anything ecept your sausageroll fingers. Stop being so delusional
#3–Amen! So many “designers” of late can’t rig for shit (or whoever they hire to rig is failing miserably). I’m looking at you, Pseudo. C’mon, that cute dress in TSS yesterday with sheer sleeves? The fucking elbows poke out even with a simple AO. SHEER sleeves. It’s not like we can alpha our arms out. I haven’t been able to buy anything from Pseudo no matter how cute because the rigging is terrible. Do you even QA your clothes with an AO before you release this crap?
It’s supply and demand. If more skin makers showed up, making good looking skins that were also unique enough to escape the “copy bot” cries, the prices would go down. That’s a tall order tho.
Forgot to say, this is in response to 36
#19 ???????? #facts