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virtual-secrets: Week 501

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Before we delve into secrets…
ā€¢ If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
ā€¢ Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
ā€¢ Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
ā€¢ Make your secrets legible.
ā€¢ Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
ā€¢ Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.

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  1. kesseret you are worst than Flat earthers… your entire person and Lourdes ,ofc… are pure poison, … all comes back, its natural.

  2. The person who submitted #6 is enticing drama as is evidenced by the tread responses. What a dummy.
    The person’s who submitted #20 & #24 are complete morons!

  3. OMG there are a couple plus my usual haters that just do not get SL at all ~ child avi’s do not, should not have to explain why to anyone they want to be a child in SL ~ same goes for those that want to be a horse, or a man who is a female in RL or vice versus ~ those that want to RP BDSM , Warriors or those that believe in GOR ~ who the fuck cares what anyone wants to be in SL are you paying their tiers, or subsidizing SL for them…are child avi’s stalking you or harming you in anyway with the exception that you cannot stand the baby talk or whatever ~ there is a mute button there for a reason, you can derender them to your hearts content or block them whichever. Just like this site you do not have to come here each week you can choose not to; yet here are the haters that has to tear someone down because God forbid they go against your grain and are not hurting anyone. Am not big on child avi’s as maybe I do not understand the need to be one but am not gonna pitch a fit and say HOLY shit lets ban all those little fuckers right now because we all know each of them are just here to have SEX – do you truly see how insane that is. SL was created to be a 3d social platform where you can BE anything you want a horse, a child, a hooker, dancer, dj and the list goes on and whatever happens between them and whoever if they are not hurting you or trying to con you out of lot of money for some RL fake shit what the fuck does it matter. Better grow a thicker skin though because just like the RL world SL is also made up of morons, cheaters, con artists just some truly fucked up wierdo’s and you either need to be careful not paranoid just like you would in RL a little bit of caution but in some of your closed minded attitudes you think if they are not coming into SL posing as an adult you think the worst – shame on you

    • ooh I know to all those that truly hate this site MAYBE just maybe you need to hold a charity event get all these designers that helped out Ms Con Artist herself and call it “LETS SHUT DOWN SL SECRETS” least then they get something for their $$$ ~ now isnt that a good idea to hold a close down EVENT?

  4. Love how the anon jus posted a bunch of names and threw ā€œageplayā€ aggressively towards their names. Probably someone who had a fallout or beef with them.

  5. I can’t handle y’all when you act like LL’s TOS is law. If you violate TOS, you’re not going to get arrested, unless it just so happened to also be illegal in your state, country, etc. Quit acting stupid.

  6. Proven age players? I’d love to see the “proof” that the person has. I suspect they have no proof whatsoever and that it is just baseless slander.

    • Exactly.

      And if there is infact proof; pictures of the dirty deeds as chatlogs can be fabricated much easier and the poster(s) have had days to type up/alter chats, of the accused in the act of sexual ageplay but the individuals are still on Second Life, then it wasn’t reported then and there like it should have been.

      Which leads me to believe that the poster(s) willingly took part in or condoned the activities at the time the alleged actions of the accused but then a fight or something there of happened which caused the individual(s) to scream ageplay.

      A tactic we’ve seen and heard about in Real Life where someone sleeps with someone (usually a celebrity) and then gets into a disagreement and next thing someone is screaming rape and false accusations.

      Now before people get upset, I’m not downplaying or making light of actual rape cases. Just those cry wolf situations out of anger or jealousy or to blackmail.

      So proof likely won’t surface as it will likely incriminate the poster(s) / commenters as well then goodbye anonymity.

      • Yes that’s it exactly, the people who do post these things are often in the thick of it. It was as it was seen, a salty post where someone was having a tantrum . Saying that bad shit don’t come from nowhere, said that here already before. If they have sense they will use this as a way to conclude their own dramas and not to blame for it.

  7. 19 – I don’t know…based on image head shot you used, I would want to do a collab with them…unique face…anyone else?

  8. I strongly recommend that you take down number 6 and 23 at the very least, if not all of these posts that are harassment. Especially if you have been requested by anyone to do so. Internet harassment is a real thing. You may claim that these are about SL avatar names and not real people, but clearly you don’t understand that an SL name and avatar are just like an e-mail address, an online game login, or a facebook login name. They are what we use to log into an internet program hence a “login name” or a “sign in name”. We are still real people behind the login names and 3d models that we choose to depict us. Because they aren’t our real names, or our real pictures, doesn’t make the names or avatars any less US behind the screen. Just like it’d be for a celeb or any random ragtag person who doesn’t use their real name for a login. You’re smart enough to grasp that no intelligent person uses their real name in their e-mail address, or gamer logins, etc. Do you think that means that some crazy person harassing or slandering someone via email, video game or facebook doesn’t get taken seriously? I can promise you that there are cyber stalkers who have harassed famous people on the net on platforms that they enjoy using who absolutely ARE taken seriously in a legal manner. Many of them are doing time in jail now. If you really believe that you’re “safe” with your broken logic, I guarantee that you are grossly mistaken, and frankly, I think you’re all talk really, and I somewhat hope that you continue to take this lightly. I think it scared you enough when people started talking legality (as it ought to have done).. enough to make you mention it and try to get people to shut up or to get over it. I think you’d better think about a new technique, because if you don’t take a better look at this and take the proper action or speak with an attorney about it, well you’re gonna be in for a very unpleasant surprise. Anyone who were to harass someone on those previously mentioned platforms would also be just as at risk of legal action being taken against them as you are. You may think that you know the legal ramifications, but you clearly do not realize that you really really don’t. You, by allowing defamatory accusations here are just as negligent. Your own website states that you OWN these images, which makes you the responsible party, not the person who sent it to you. You posted it for public display. By allowing them to be posted, you are actually the perpetrator of the internet harassment, because you claim ownership of the images. I guarantee you that internet harassment and crime IS absolutely looked at by the authorities. And if you don’t believe me, well I guess you’ll find out soon enough anyway. https://www.ipredator.co/cyber-harassment/ https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ccips/reporting-computer-internet-related-or-intellectual-property-crime For those of you who have been harassed.. just file a claim, it’s very very simple to do. Now, your entertainment could ruin lives, cost people their SL and RL businesses, and you are as liable as the people who send you these images, after all.. you own them right? So good luck fighting that battle when it comes, and I hope you have the dough to pay off the attorney fees, court costs, and the lost income of the people you are harassing that might lose business because of you facilitating slanderous comments. I’m sure there’s more than a handful of people who would jump at the chance to take part in a lawsuit against you for a piece of that settlement money while you’ve just been enjoying yourself in here on your “fun” site. Be careful, all it takes is enough people organizing with enough money and a nice legal expert to back them up and come after you for their losses. I hope that’ll be just as much entertainment as you can handle. Also, I think you and those hateful intolerant people using this site are vile, repugnant, deplorable, disgusting, nothing but trash, humans with nothing better to do with your lives than incite drama and spread gossip. That.. is an opinion, not a fact backed up by any proof.. but I do believe that there are many people here who share my opinion just as much as there will be those who share yours, not that I care. But at least I know the difference between the truth and gossip. And you do say that you have this site to allow people the opportunity to speak freely, right? Will you actually allow me to speak freely as well? I guess we’ll see won’t we?

    • You can speak as freely as anyone else here. But I think it would helpful if you learned to use paragraphs. People tend to TL;DR walls of text.

      • Yeah…..I read three lines the said fuck this and scrolled along lol

    • Surprisingly, I managed to make it through that wall of text. Here’s a Cliff Notes version for you guys:

      Take down #6 & 23..blah blah blah…something about internet harassment…blah blah…then something about jail time, legal fees, more warnings (I’m not entirely sure, I may have fallen asleep part way through)…oh and then this, which I am REALLY confused about.

      “Also, I think you and those hateful intolerant people using this site are vile, repugnant, deplorable, disgusting, nothing but trash, humans with nothing better to do with your lives than incite drama and spread gossip.”

      *scratches head* So uhm….why are YOU even here then? You’re clearly so much more superior than the rest of us vile, repugnant, deplorable, disgusting, nothing but trash humans that are here, so why dirty yourself with the likes of us? Oh that’s right. Because you have an opinion you’d like to share. Well as the saying goes…opinions are like assholes, so I guess that makes each and everyone of us here an asshole then. Welcome to the club A! šŸ™‚

      • My pleasure Kesseret! No worries, I’ll be sticking around. This is too much fun! I feel like part of the family. But…not an age play family though. You know, cause…that’d be SO gross, not to mention against Linden’s TOS!! šŸ˜‰

      • I love it lol telling everyone how nasty they are to be here yet…..Here they are lolol and thanks for the summary because hell no was i gonna read through that.

    • And one more thing…ffs will you people please stop offering your unsolicited legal and moral advice to the owners of this site. How many times does she have to repeat herself?! They’ve had this site up for a really long time now. This isn’t the first time a post has sparked a lot of debate and questions in the areas of legality, and I’m gonna bet it’s not going to be the last time either. So do yourself a favor, and if all you’re going to do is wag your finger at the owners and warn them about legal ramifications, remind the rest of us what horrible people we all are, even though you’re sitting here right along with the rest of us, reading all this shit….just stop! Don’t waste yours or our time.

      • BRAVO Devil! Well said and gawd am like I missed all this but you caught me up quicker than having to scroll and read and why shoot the messengers, which are clearly Kess & Lourdes why not do a witch hunt on whoever you are accusing and take it to the authorities if you are so worried that they are violating the law or oooh I know why not whoever is accusing who send PROOF to Linden Labs and let them handle it instead of this ongoing crapfest belittling 2 people that obviously have no knowledge in whoever you are accusing.

      • Apparently one of the people listed on #6 has a lawyer looking at it who speciliases in internet crimes. I cant wait to hear if a crime has been committed which i highly doubt.

      • I wish that money would be better spent on taking Linden Labs to court over the numerous fraud and slander that goes on in there , often in closed circles but yet just as powerful. I think the whole age play report system is an abused system as it stands. Better they get the lawyers to push to remove that, then salty posts such as went on would not exist. As nobody would care and it would no longer be the weapon over people that they abuse. I doubt a crime has been committed but I think certainly the whole age play report system is one they could contest and successfully too, if they got together and hired a lawyer to take it on.

      • Read the TOS. There’s information there on taking Linden Lab to court. There’s been many times they’ve been taken to court and how does it end? Lots of money spent by the users and Linden Lab still does what they want.

        I can think of 3 major ones off the top of my head. 1. Land case back in the 2006ish era 2. Not sure of the timeperiod but it involved permabanning (I remember stumbling on that one and realizes exactly how much Linden Lab logs, very interesting and 3. Stroker et al.

      • #2 especially was a major slap down. If I recall correctly it established in virtual worlds and even gaming: that you are the bitch of the game owners they can do what they want within the laws of their country and there isn’t shit you can do about it. That’s the rough summary. Even the fact that LL can confiscate every single one of your lindens at any time with no reason and there isn’t shit you can do about. Lindens have RL monetary value that they establish without that your lindens aren’t shit. So yeah it also set the stage for how virtual currency is viewed even when you can cash it out for RL money.

      • Are you attempting to make the site owners worry? Too funny

    • A. I think you are living life through your avatar. On Facebook, why do you think so many second life accounts get reported or deleted. They are marked as a fake account or an account not representing a real person or not a real name, Esp if they see Resident. Trust me, they take them down. You seem so engrossed in on-line worlds. Stop living life as your avatar. One last thing, other games have sites like this, some are called burn books, and they have been around for years. Stop substituting an online character for a real person.

  9. #4 is hard to read but that’s some funny shit. This dude is a douchebag. He jumped in my girls box one night flirting with her n shit. Didnt fucking care that she was taken. Its guys like this idiot that give us real men a bad name.

    • Regarding #4….I have heard all these things first hand and even experienced some of this behavior myself. Fact is that he does not care how he treats women. He did not respect my rl marriage and he would not accept just friendship. Honestly it is just as well because I do not need that kind of friend in SL.

  10. # 21. Happy Easter Valley and family! Thank you for the Easter cheer.

  11. People in Sl just need to learn to mind there own business an enjoy there own Sl. Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. unless there directly effecting you there is no reason to care. I like the 2 false age play images. One is a cactus not a sex toy. the other just shows an adult holding a child avi. Nothing is breaking the TOS or illegal in either image. If you were walkin down the street in rl an see a man on his front porch holding a child on his lap is the 1st thing you do is to take a pic an call the police an assume hes a pedo ? These are just people looking to create drama for there own enjoyment. They go an say people behind kid avis need help. If your that bored to were you have nothing better to do then create drama for others then you need just as much help. Sl is a fantasy world, there going to be things that everyone dont agree with. If we banned everything that people report just because they dont like it, there would be nothing left here. LL added a feature a few years back in land setting called something like ” Avatars on other parcels can see and chat with avatars on this parcel”. you know why they added this ? Because drama makers that spent there days camming in people homes an reporting everything there against.

  12. #16 last week you were bitching about this person, saying you had had him blocked and that you were done with him and how much he screwed you over..yet you never had him blocked… and then this week you are all I love you and maybe one day we will be together… make up your damn mind and get over it . Ps you should have just signed your name we know who it’s about.

  13. I’m honestly surprised none of the spanking sims made it onto the ageplay list. I’ve definitely seen some sketchy shit around those.

  14. #16 maybe you should not have been drinking tequila last week when u put my boy on blast.

  16. #3 The real losers at Loseria are “Dommes” with nothing but time on their hands…steady trying to figure out other people’s tips and where they’re coming from. I get a lot of the secrets, something personal happened and a feeling got hurt – but this is clearly “I’m watching your jar because nothing is going on in mine and that must mean that you’re doing something wrong.” When you’re busy being successful, you don’t have time to worry about what everyone else is doing, it’s as simple as that.

    Competing for “stats” at Loseria is startlingly sad. I respect Tiny Empires rankings far more, and you don’t even have to waste time with the broke and the depraved to get them.

  17. Iā€™m basically here to clear up the Kid Grid and Richmond Survival Camp, because they donā€™t deserve these rumors. Iā€™ve been a counselor at RSC all but the first year, and the owners and volunteers work their ASS off to make camp a free, fun experience for over 150 kids for a week. There is no age play. There are child-appropriate activities, kids are not allowed to voice, etc. The Kid grid is similar – a great kid-friendly place to be. Behavior is held to a high standard, and if anyone saw anything risquĆ©, Iā€™m sure they would report it directly to the Numbers instead of posting some bullshit on virtual-secrets. So, please your rumors elsewhere and have a coffee and nice conversation in RL, because you must have some childish anger issues to work out.

    Can we get back to whore-bashing?

  18. A lot of people aren’t going to like what I have to say, but Ima say it anyways. Everyone is all in an uproar over this “pedophile/age play” list but honestly…so fucking what!?! Unless these people have actively participated in some type of sexual act with an ACTUAL child, it’s not really pedophilia. Age play..yes. But that doesn’t necessarily make that person a “pedophile”.

    Look, let’s be honest people. A majority (if not ALL) of us in SL, come here to do things we can’t do in RL and to play out fantasies. I’m not just talking about sexual fantasies either, so before you fuckers scream “why does it always have to be about sex?!” let me stop you right there. SL is a platform that we all love because the only limit to what you can create or do, is your imagination. I think it’s safe to say that a majority of the people in SL are adults, yes? So of course there is going to be just as many sexual fantasies as non-sexual fantasies, being lived out in this world. Fact of SL life….some of these fantasies are going to be what a lot of people will find offensive, gross or disgusting. But that’s just YOUR opinion. If it’s not what you’re into, then no one is forcing you to watch or participate. Mind your business and just move on!

    Sometimes, the taboo of RP’ing things that aren’t what society deems as “acceptable”, is just a part of the kink a person enjoys. I personally have RP’d a few age play things with a partner before, and I know quite a few others that have confessed to doing it too. It’s WAY more common than you guys think it is, sorry..not sorry. But just because I found it hot and kinky, doesn’t make me a pedophile. I assure you that I have NEVER EVER been physically/sexually attracted to a child. If the two people involved are ADULTS, then what’s the problem? Oh, I get it! You think it’s disgusting. Riiiiiiight! Ok, well thank fuck the world doesn’t revolve around you and your narrow minded judgmental Highness. You should try stepping outside that cobweb filled dark box you’re living in and try a few things. You might enjoy life a little more, instead of always having to bash people and ruin their virtual reputations.

    RL pedophiles are disgusting, and they exist in RL and on SL. But let me play devil’s advocate here. Just like someone mentioned earlier the reasons they play a child in SL when they’re an adult in RL, is because maybe they’re trying to heal a broken childhood, they were abused as a child, etc, etc. What if…someone who is a pedophile in RL is using SL as a means to safely fulfill his fantasies. By safely, I mean without harming an actual child. He/she is fulfilling their sexual fantasies with an adult, that just happens to be playing as a child. But the important thing is, they’re having their sick desires satisfied, therefore…leaving children alone in the real world. In a perfect world, there would be no pedophiles, but sadly, there are. I’d MUCH rather them be carrying out their desires here in SL with an adult than with child out in the real world, wouldn’t you?

    • You may not consider it pedophilia but it is a violation of Second Life’s TOS and a banneable offense.

      • *yawns* Yes…we know. I think we heard you the first 5 times.

      • I 2nd this @Someoneinsl you have pounded your fists & yelled at us all till you are blue in the face about how it’s against TOS and how you are disgusted by child avatars…we heard you and you sound like a broken record so please just sit down and shut that mouth of yours that likes to spew hatred because you know what!….Nobody cares!

        You can hate and blindly recite your propaganda as much as you like to follow suit with those Religious nut bags who get on their soapboxes and yell about how Gays are disgusting and will all go to hell or the Skinheads who demand that Aryan is the superior race and others should die. But quite frankly I’m kind of bored of it and so are others it seems so maybe pickup that soap box and go elsewhere to do it?

      • Same, I have tried but I guess reasoning with the un-cultured is a thing in SL . I think kid avs are great, I have a super nephew in SL and I don’t mind fighting for SL kids against ignorant people. As I said before, SL kids will always find people that are intolerant or them and others, because what it comes down to is the people bashing them are unhappy people in SL and possibly beyond.

        SL kids have to remember that these people would be on at furries, gays, tran-sexuals and even color or whatever they don’t like , that’s how SL is. They are merely an easy target and scapegoat for bigger issues in peoples lives.

        What these kids need to do now is group together and listen to each other more, talk things out and make things better for themselves. I am bored of her, I am certainly not going to keep offering a cross to the rock throwing natives. I know a lost cause when I see it

      • Well Yorkshire I’m actually not the biggest of fan about SL kids and I’ll admit a few have made me want to smack them with their “baby talk” I refuse to do the whole sl family thing for reasons. But on the other side of that coin SL kids have just as much right to be in SL as anyone else so I will not tolerate anyone telling them otherwise.

      • Yes Coffee, its like all things. There will always be some bad apples to spoil a basket of apples. It don’t mean that we throw them all away because we think they are all contaminated. I feel the same, people have the right to be what they wish to be and I also do not tolerate people saying otherwise. I am also not one for this “baby talk” role play, I find it really stupid TBH and I do not in anyways talk for them. I do talk for those a lot older who wish to have a good life in SL, but they need to work harder now to get it back after that posting. Ok who is for Cider and I hope SL secrets is better next week šŸ™‚

      • I agree with you Coffee. I personally find child avis cringy but to each their own.

      • Calm your tits. Linden Lab is a reactionary company. They haven’t banned anyone for sexual ageplay in a long time and don’t care about it anymore. They cared in like 2010/11 whenever they enacted that part of the TOS because of some news story.

        Like Devil said above. It’s not my thing but if 2 adults wanna roleplay whatever they want in SL so be it. How is it different from husband and wife roleplaying that same scenario in their bedroom?????

      • They “care” in the way that if it’s painfully blatant and/or enough mass reports come in from the right people, something gets done but there haven’t been mass blanket bans over sexual ageplay in a while. LL was covering their ass because of that news story because even with little to no actual proof, it was giving SL a bad name when they were trying to go mainstream. I very vividly remember in 2009-2010 wondering if kid avatars were going to get a complete ban and kids being excluded from a SLB event, leading them to create their own and try to educate others about actual child avatar rp instead of “pedo panic”. The “pedo panic” flares up every few months and some people just never let it go *shrug*

        Whatever two or more adults do in their bedroom isn’t anything I want to see. I’m sure some truly sick things get roleplayed in private but I’m not the Second Life Sex Police and it’s not my job to report what I never see. Honestly, I’m more worried about the dodgy crap on Marketplace for kid avatars and people openly hitting on kid avatars.

      • Linden labs have banned a few people for age play lately as its been all over FB and one of the women Supposedly tried to commit suicide and was taken into psych ward and was of course claiming her innocence. LL dont just ban people on hearsay or rumour tho so i can only assume there was evidence. If there is no truth in the names on this list they have nothing to be concerned about with LL.

      • Are you referring to the girl who was put on a psych hold and posting on Facebook still?

        I don’t know any hospital that does psych holds for suicide attempts and gives the patients sharp objects, let alone the ability to keep up with their fake online identities.

        So lessons to be learned here again and again:

        – Don’t believe everything you see on the internet.
        – Not everything is as it seems.
        – People lie. (This is a big one.)
        – And some people will do just about anything for attention.

      • People taken into involuntary psych holds are not given internet access to post about it on Facebook nor are people on suicide watch wards provided with computers or smart phones. If you are that much of a risk and part of the reason for your suicidal ideation involves the internet, you for sure are not going to be allowed to be online no matter what someone wanting attention says.

        I realize not everyone has worked/had family who work in the mental illness field but it’s not like when you go into the hospital for surgery and can be wheeled out of the ward to use your smartphone to text about the hospital food being bad.

      • Agreed. I do work in the medial field so allow me to explain what happens. Each patient that is admitted to the hospital is screened for suicide/self harm. They are asked a series of questions, and if any question ends in a “yes” from the patient, they are considered a suicide watch until a bed becomes available on a psych ward. I’m sure it’s no surprise to you guys that there’s usually a bed shortage and wait list for the psych wards at most hospitals.

        In the meantime, while being on a suicide watch/psych hold, they have to wear paper gowns. None of those gorgeous gowns with strings that tie at the neck and the back to hide your hiney because, you know…you could kill yourself with that. No shoes, just socks or if you are allowed shoes, they have to be the kind with no laces. If you have laces, those are removed. Basically…ALL personally belongings are taken from you and are kept in a safe place far away from you, usually locked up. No clothes. No sharp objects. Definitely NO phones or internet access. If you’re lucky, your room has a tv and you may or may not be allowed to watch it. Until your bed is ready on the psych ward, which mind you…could take hours, could take weeks (yes I’ve seen it take that long), you will be placed on what is called 1:1. This means you will at all times, have a sitter. Yeah…like a babysitter, only worse. They will sit in the room and watch your every move. This includes going to the bathroom. All visitors/calls will be screened and limited to 5 maybe 10 minutes. So therefore…anyone claiming to have attempted suicide or being placed on a psych hold but still posting to Facebook is full of shit. But we all knew that already right?

        I apologize for the long description. It’s just really slow here tonight on the psych ward lol

      • With all this talk about a news article I actually got curios as to what it was and what was the “legal implications” then also what was done about it… So I actually looked it up and found it along with a follow up report done by CNN.

        Even though there is talk about it happening in 2009-2011 here; the major conspiracy theory of pedophiles in SL actually started in 2007.

        From what I understand it was a huge scandal about a place called “Wonderland” where child looking avis were engaging in prostitution. This lead to the RL fear of were these avis really controlled by people over 18 and/or were RL pedophiles using SL as a way to connect and share RL child pornography with each other. Also it was a huge concern that would their fantasies from SL leak out to them committing RL crimes.

        here are the links:

        http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/11/02/pedophile-playground-discovered-in-second-life-virtual-world.html

        If my memory serves me here (couldn’t find any news articles on this).. there was also a 2nd wave of fear that hit the RL community over SL pedophilia where they thought the pedophiles were making child avis to use “wolf in sheep’s clothing” as a way to hunt for victims that were children in RL to then groom and entice them into a real world encounter

        Now, the overall theme here is RL government/law enforcement does not care about 2 adults getting “kinky” on the computer. What they do care about is if there is a RL child victim and/or RL laws being broken .

        And as far as LL’s involvement it originally was the implement of “proof of age” and the amendments to the TOS for child avis I think came later with the 2nd scare I mentioned above, They too also don’t care about this matter unless RL laws are being broken and/or RL child victims

        So hopefully this will clear up a few thing with with legal implications and the throwing around of the TOS on this matter.

      • I think in the UK, one of the issues pertaining to the laws is as follows … The offence is targeted at non-photographic images (this includes computer generated images (CGI’s), cartoons, manga images and drawings) and therefore specifically excludes indecent photographs, or pseudo-photographs of children, as well as tracings or derivatives of photographs and pseudo-photographs. Which I think furthers the whole issues of the laws behind it, I am unsure of the laws pertaining to other countries though.

      • It’s different for every region. I know this one guy who does risque Lolicon artwork in California where it’s legal to do drawings but is “iffy” if it moves to a 3-d platform. He can even do pornographic drawings legally but has to be careful where he posts them on the net so that he doesn’t break any laws in other regions/states that have stricter laws because he’s based in Cali and not Japan who has more legal freedom due to Lolicon originating from there.

      • You’ve got the story about Wonderland that the news gave out. The people that ran Wonderland were involved in other industries in SL and some of us got to know them well. They were assholes. Claimed they were Autistic. That autism was evolution and shouldn’t be researched to find out ways to alleviate/cure symptoms to make people with autism have a better quality of life. The husband was involved in the bug fixing/coding/client reverse engineering side (that group of people) and the wife was involved in the fashion industry. In fact through a SL bug that her husband knew about, she was able to replicate a designers items and give them away. It was a big drama. Particularly because these items were being sold to benefit an autism group. I wish I hadn’t have disabled Shopping Cart Disco, they had all this drama on that site. receipts: (Note it references SCD) http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/laynie-link-vs.html
        and more http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/7382-lalinda-lovell-child-sex-content.html
        I myself have had run-ins with Lalinda. Her husband and mine knew eachother (My husband was big into fixing SL bugs – in 2007 he was awarded a Linden award for Bug Hunter, so he spent a LOT of time doing that) and I’m not sure if this was related to Laynie (she was a friend of mine at the time) he discovered the bug used to get her wares and he fixed it. Well Lalinda one day showed up on my sim (a private Sandbox that was available to the public) and dropped a metric-shit ton of child pornography on prims. I am not talking about SL child pornography – I am talking about THE REAL DEAL. Of course I reported it then returned it all to her. Linden Lab did jack shit about the issue – her husband was an asset to Linden Lab. I am not sure when Wonderland was official a whole sim (as it was at one point) I didnt really go looking for that kind of stuff. But those 2 are some crazy ass people. If you encounter them run very very far away. Sure it’s been 10 years, but I don’t need that kind of bullshit in my life. And you don’t either.

      • Wow! they sound like a piece of work … Thanks for the extra info on what that all was. I guess I’ve been lucky thus far to never have crossed paths with those 2.

      • Lord go take your proof to Linden Labs and be done with it as now you are just getting boooring

    • is it age play when a old lady gets botox to look younger? sounds it to me. shrugs

    • i can agree look at Podesta’s home artwork.. throw the word art on it and it becomes ok….. some people tho seriously LOOK for shit to complain about for instance the cactus pic in secrets…i saw the pic and didnt even notice a chair or cactus until reading the posts…. i dont scope for predators .. only ppl who think about that shit all the time are the real sickos.

      • @me So true! and yeah that is a cactus I had to look at that thing for a good 5 min before I could say to mysef “hmm I guess that sorta looks like a dildo but my god it’s a dayum cactus people”.

      • The same person who posted up #6 is probably responsible for the cactus image I’d say. Talk about grasping at straws.

      • Maybe it’s a cactus dildo. This is SL after all. :p

        Ignore me. I’m just amusing myself, stirring the pot.

      • Lol well it is a well known fact that anything can be a dildo if you try hard enough so maybe so but I strongly urge to not try this at home >.>

      • I was thinking that only in SL would people be cool with a cactus dildo….because they don’t have to feel the spikes lol.
        I was thinking if its legit someone probably made it look like a penis as a joke. I’d have bought it for that reason.

      • *hands Lourdes a stirrer to stir the pot with* Did I mention the stirrer is shaped like a penis? You’re welcome! lol

      • Supreme Court Justice Stewart’s phrase “I know it when I see it” comes to mind here. Also I believe that people now are more sensitive to this stuff. For example the countless posts/arguments in mom groups over a picture of a dad (or mom) kissing his 4 year old daughter on the lips. In some cultures it’s done – it’s not anything sexual at all, but from an outsider it probably looks weird.

    • Ageplay is:

      1. When an adult roleplays someone younger than they are
      2. When a teen or child roleplays someone older than they are
      3. When a teen or child roleplays someone younger than they are
      4. When an adult roleplays someone older than they are
      5. When anyone portrays themselves and acts as an age they are not

      So…

      An adult with a child avatar is ageplaying
      A teenager with an adult avatar is ageplaying
      A 50 year old with a 20 year old avatar is ageplaying
      A 20 year old with an avatar who is 50 years old is ageplaying

      It’d be nice if people realized ageplay does not automatically mean “Oh my god, that person is a child to have sex”.

    • In my country it is illegal to even create a picture of child pornography….I’m pretty sure you can be charged if caught doing ageplay in sl because technically…You’re creating child porn…you do not need to interact with a child here to be in big shit. So it mostly falls on where you live. Js

      • Ageplay is not sexual ageplay.

        Ageplay is anyone pretending to be an age they aren’t.

        Sexual ageplay involving children.. yeah that’s the bad stuff you’re talking about, Gimmie.

  19. #6 oooh oooh mee meee! I play as a child avi too, so when you draw random names from the family community again to see who ends up on part 2 make sure you pick me and my friends! we wanna be virtual-secrets famous too for no good reason and with literally no proof. k thaaanks! ā™„

    • If I end up on a list, I’m going to laugh. I am in the most bland, unknown, tiny family and I am non-sexual AF.

  20. @ # 7 get off it already. If you designed in Second Life you’d go where the money is too. Seriously, Catwa updates thank you jeebus for the goods.. Lelutukerrr.. not the greatest if thou ask me. Get off thou’s high horse and design your own shit before point those spinster callused fingers decide to point eagerly. Designers need mula too, don’t berate them for creating a more popular format. You want to use a less ‘known’ format for appliers, that’s on you booboo. Not on designers heads. You want more creations for your format, be the change instead of the stank.

  21. Everybody looks stupid here like my husband. Girls falling in love and fighting over a ken doll beacuse of Aeros cock! They come here and bitching about each other. Few are stupidier than the others try to play hero making public statement etc. I love virtual-secrets! Best entertainment in SL, better than Fox News! Kudo SL Secrets!

    • OMG I was just thinking the same! Great job SL Secrets! keep it coming!

  22. #9
    Here’s a little letter to the OP:

    Dear you…The you who wrote the secret. The dumbass you who is probably a teeny, tiny bit salty…but only a little salty, because too much sodium is not good for you. The you who was probably too mad to grab a demo. The you who probably failed to realize that Epoch released an ORIGINAL MESH item for this event. *GASP…?!?!* I KNOW, RIGHT?!

    The you who would probably refuse to believe it, even if I threw it right in your face and smeared it in like the piece of shit you are. The you who actually thinks N21 forgot about their standards, and would all of the sudden accept template items. The you who probably failed to realize that Epoch also put out original content for its last N21 round, even if it didn’t consist of mesh items…but let’s be honest, you probably DO remember Epoch in the last round of N21. You were probably a little salty back then, too :)…

    Don’t be so angry. One day you’ll get your chance to shine, too.
    Until then, please feel free to lock up your feelings and toughen up, little soldier. <3

    Try harder,

    Say O'Nara.

  23. Oh.

    Well, I’m not sure what to say except to be alarmed by all the pedo stuff this week. Yeah, I know the sickos are out there and I’ve had to report a few for hitting on my ten year old child avatar but JFC…

    I never had any bad experiences at Next Gen or Kid Grid sims when I was there but I also stick with my family pretty close when I’m on my kid account and only go places like Livingtree, breedable pet sims, school, and Magicland by myself. Anyone got details on what’s going on or what they saw? Please tell me you reported it, secret maker.

    #24 is… gah. You know, being a child avatar means you have to be 100% careful about being near any adult objects. I have actually logged out to avoid being near some idiot rezzing penises or someone insisting upon wearing their junk half poked out. That just looks bad. Is there context to that photo? Not that it makes it any better…

    • #24. It’s a cactus. Anyone who sees a cactus as a sexual object may need to see a doctor.

      • The photo is small and I didn’t put it into a photo editor to closely examine it. I was wrong and the secret maker obviously counted on people making that same mistake.

    • It was a cactus not a penis. Smacks my head. Quit throwing SL kids under the bus.

    • From the looks of the whole photo of #24 and speaking to the creator of the photo as well as catching up on Facebook chatter, it appears the individual took the picture and didn’t think about or pay attention to the surroundings but wanted to capture their attempt at parenting.

      The caption of the photo was about the child not going to sleep and the extent a parent will go to scare or persuade a child to go back to bed; in this case they appear to be using the boogieman tactic.

      I sincerely believe it was a simple error in judgement on the creators part but I could be wrong.

      I will also point out that the photo was also taken months ago and it appears someone is attempting to create problems for the individual and their family/friends due to a disagreement.

    • I have one of those. It is not a sex toy, it is a cactus from Half Deer.

      • It took me abit to find the caption for the photo, as it appears the individual deleted it from Flickr; likely due to being bothered about it.

        https://gyazo.com/ed43f53c66fd550276f60d94483edeaf

        I personally find the adult/demon in the image more horrifying to have near a toddler than the rather small plant that at first glance when I saw the image on Flickr, it looked more like a bong than anything. But once someone mentioned it looked like a sexual object, then of course the way the human brain thinks, I could see that.

      • I had to squint and I can see how it might look like a sex toy in low resolution. My mistake, the secret maker obviously is using this without context just to make SL kids look bad.

  24. #7 Or you know, make Omega appliers and let the customer decide which head they wanna wear it with.
    #15 SL seams SUCK. Even if its lined up on an sluv model, it could line up different on every single mesh body. But they could at least try harder.

  25. So thirsty. Thanks again for the free advertising. Who ever has the time to make up this shit about Jem must be very bored and broke. Keep laughing all the way to the bank with me wifey <3

    • Jem and her club lost their reputuation long long time ago. Everyone that goes to loseria knows it, Sorry but that’s boring old news that everyone knows about. Joke’s on her now, like it has always been.

    • Looks like you must have so much time too to scroll these pages and comment on nobodies. Most likely this isn’t shit, as it appears kink has landed themselves in a bit of a mess the last few weeks and the cracks are getting deeper. And being your “wifey” you’d know of her alts unless of course she lies to your face too.

  26. I’ve been a counselor at Richmond Survival Camp twice and there is not truth to that ageplay one, furthermore me and my sl mom are bother numbers and again there is no truth to that ageplay claim. I cannot say for the other ones.

  27. #4,12,28,29: I can’t read any of them farrr too small. As for much of this… Seems to be Jelly Jigglers everywhere too Jelly to be in SL!

  29. #6 Wouldn’t be surprised when Hikaru Enimo name is involved, half of the list is her middle age woman still creating as many alts as she can whole family brohers sister kids friends not a pedophile but for sure a social psycopath

  30. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz very boring this week ~ everyone must be on a holiday but I bet I can some negative votes just by saying this LOL ~ throws Jelly Bellys into the mix

  31. #28 #29
    Jacqueline Annie Gaddis now everything make sense your corruption failed!

    I am a Designer myself and i was interested to advertise at essential inventory a year ago for a well known event i happend to be part of, it happend that i was talking to annie which gave me the impression of being the owner of that page she told me how great it would be to advertise on essential page so i tried that i will mention she adds a 50 – 100 dollar fee for herself to earn to every posting package on top of the promo money i paid her.. so just thinking about how much money she made secretly in all those months could be 20 000 dollars+ .rl money so no wonder this blew up im sure she did not paid taxes for this.. lol the price lists for the postings are still on her blog http://gridspirations.com/essential-inventory/

    . Also i know many designers that suddenly stopped being covered at essential inventory when this girl started to sell the postings on the page this is so ridiculous! i wonder how this girls feels no shame to open another facebook page with the same concept and scam designers again blows my mind that people support this.. every designer can boost their own posts on their facebook page as well and select the right audience is not a big trick to do that klick on boost post and then you can select keywords which peple you want to reach i tried that with my friends that are also designers and we had great results and top reach so no need to pay this scammer 100 dollars to do it be aware fellow designers! she can put her “amazing marketing skills” elsewhere.

    i am also confused how she coud use the page for so long pretending to own it without anyone notice and how pitty is it to use anotherpersons page to make money behind the owner back *rolleyes*

    My point is and sorry my bad english i am from italy .. she did take advantage of me took my money and in the back she talked bad about my brand and acused me of copy botting which i never did she hurt my brand and my name. after i found out about this i stopped my advertisement that i paid for and did notice that i never got covered anymore at the page now everything make sense she made essential iventory to an corrupt place and i am happy the truth was shared and i feel wayy better now again about this page that i used to love a lot !

    • She is a sick thief and a pathetic whore, all the designers who still are going to pay her RL stuff should be ashamed of it, I hope people wake u!

  32. The pedo secret is exactly why Linden Labs should take the lead from some other grids and ban kid avis all together. I have heard all of the arguments for kid avis: its a way for a person to relive their childhood, its a way for those who had crap families growing up to have a good family in SL, its so people will leave me alone…if you are are a kid avi in SL or have one in your SL “family”, for the first two reasons then you seriously need to log off SL and get some professional help.

    Everyone has had stuff happen to them in their childhood, but being a 20 to 50ish adult behind a computer screen, pretending to piss, cry, and whine like a newborn or 1 year old is not going to fix your childhood or give you the family you may have missed out on. As for being a kid avi because you want people to leave you alone, this one is an easy fix without being a kid avi. Dont socialize!

    SL kid avis are just another way for mentally challenged and ill people to have an excuse to run around in a diaper or for pedos to get their fix off of, while wanking off behind the screen. Grow up people!

    • having an adult female avatar to rape and abuse indicates you need help. Logging into a game to have sex instead of getting some irl also indicates the need for help. Female avatars should be banned since people use them to abuse. male avatars should also be banned. Furries promote animal abuse and should be banned.

      • Then lets ban all avatars and close up all virtual worlds, since you obviously think it is ok to let kid avatars and adults have sex with each other.

      • I can’t be an Apache Helicopter because I’ll be accused of wanting to shoot at people

    • You said every word I had in mind. There’s lots of creepy stuff on SL but kids avies are the worst of them.

      • @ Justanothersllady

        Bollocks, I seen as many adults with more screwed up ideas than any on the grid. If that’s the case I would ban everyone off SL for being a pervert in the making , cause its sure to hell a point of people in glass houses throwing bricks around huh? I seen it all , rape, cannibalism, gore, church rape, devil worship and rape and all divulged and enjoyed… things that would get you arrested in RL but suddenly is is fine if you sanction your own behaviors and as long as its adults are involved makes it “ok?” but you telling me and everyone else kids are worse. Thats the biggest pile of self indulgent bullshit I have seen on SL secrets yet

      • The issue here is age play, if two adults want to indulge in the type of behavior you are mentioning, what is the issue? A person who is an adult with a kid avatar and conducting age play should be banned. In fact the kid avatar and the adult avatar both should be banned.

      • @Someoneinsl There is a lot of things in SL that should be bannable, we have SL secrets every week about others conning people for money for reasons that are untrue. That is fraud which is a jailable offence. Where is the ban button for them?
        Rape is also a jailable offence, in some countries the death penalty yet many sims thrive on it and make a business out of it . Your point being on some shitty reportable issue Lindens put in to save their own asses and profits. If you think they cared about ageplay you are sorely mistaken. Its to do with profits and less about care of what is morally correct in the world.

        My point is I find rape offensive, where is my justice and where is my ban button in SL? Because if we went by your opinion re kids and mixed it with things I (and I am sure others don’t like), SL would be down in number of people by half due to reports. And then your SL would be seriously up the chute because LL would not financially survive. The moral, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

      • It does not matter to me if LL survives financially, the point is, age play with child avatars and adult avatars is disgusting and SL does have its share of pedophiles, even if the names listed in this week’s secrets are innocent, there are more than likely more in SL who are age playing and participating in pedophilia. LL will not survive anyways, if child age play becomes even more rampant than it already is and all it takes is a few news reports that LL is allowing this behavior by allowing people to run around as kid avatars. This could all be prevented if kid avis were banned. There are many people who simply cannot stand kid avis, but do not speak out because they get attacked. Even LL cannot stand kid avis and do not have them available in Sansar, their latest virtual world.

      • @Someoneinsl

        I don’t know… because Sansar is shit maybe? They don’t even allow for basic customization of adult avatars other than the basic muppet faces they gave them. So on things not being allowed its early to say, plus the whole reason for Sansar is not even for basic social connection. It’s a site for creators basically for creative exposure. And if LL would not survive you would have nothing to harp on about, so win win right? You can get on with RL, lobby on something that makes a difference to REAL LIVES instead of getting on a soap box here about child avs.

        P.S Someone also asked you a question on the validity on other things being bannable, which is a justified question. If you are going to answer, at least have the common decency to fire back on an answer that’s directly fired at you, other than ignoring it for your own 2 cents opinion. Because otherwise that’s just plain rude and ignorant!!

      • And I could say the same thing to you Yorkshire, what are you doing in RL? Have you contributed to mankind? It is really a sorry state of affairs in the world if people are so bent out of shape because I simply said banning kid avatars (which are nothing more than pieces of mesh) in a virtual world (which only exists on computer servers) has caused such an uproar.

      • Actually yes Someoneinsl, I run 5k marathons and donate my sponsorship to charity, often to cystic fibrosis charities . And no i’m not bent out of shape about the banning of kid avatars, because its not about that largely I am on to you about ( although it is partly). Yes you are entitled to your opinion but I am telling you your opinion and logic are so way off target.

        People are people, they should be allowed to choose what they wish to be, if you state you wish to ban kid avatars then you are taking part in allowing what is subjugation to people. When you start that, it becomes a catalyst for other things that later people find offensive. Which later means eventually YOU come under the firing line for something others may hate. Then when that happens, I am sure you would be the first to shout blue murder and demand your rights, your freedom of speech to exist. That is why I am calling you selfish, because your opinion is based on you and is not in any form three dimensional thinking. In short you think in black and white and no in-between. You are judge and jury and that is injustice and that is whats wrong with your comments, it is based on a blanket ban on people who may not ever do such things as was reported on 6 which was also talked about as mis-labeling people wrongly.

        You cannot ever if you call yourself a person of free speech and free expression, come here with an attitude like that. In a place like SL that should be for fun and enjoyment, you coming on here spouting your obvious hate for kid avs pretty much has been summed up on all these posts. That you are intolerant of them because of a mix of Chinese whisper sensationalism, pigeonholing and negative stereotypes which SL is full of. Nobody escapes that because sure as clockwork, someone has their ass in a bundle over something or someone in SL, the unwritten expectation is intolerance . In this case and to my point on your replies, it mixes to a lot of misguided toxicity and to which the “uproar” you have just mentioned has been caused… by you directly.

        The uproar in question is your inability to have an open mind and willingness to see past the negatives you see. To understand another side of people and understand you cannot tarnish everyone with a brush. And it is because of your attitude, I am debating (or trying to with you) to see further past your short sighted nature. Your closed opinion is the same mind thought as male chauvinists see all women are potential whores because prostitutes exist , that all men are woman beaters because one man out of a whole planet of men abused one women, that all teens are potential delinquents because one or two vandal a phone box. Come on now… think!!

      • A 5k is NOT a marathon, more an easy 3.2 miles. By the wat, here is a bowl since you think your shit smells like ice cream Yorkie.

      • LOL OneNameOnly, an your shit smells like? I hate to think seeing where your head is where it should not be. At least I have had reasonable and legible posts with reasons, yours has been a torrent of simple grade BS a 6 year old could muster. Or is this a snappy retort cause I had to smack your arse over a shitty comment you made on another? A comment you yourself (if you were an adult) should never have made if you had a shred of decency. And 5 k is a Marathon you freakin idiot. https://www.edinburghmarathon.com/events/5k/

        Now stop answering back to the adults now and play nice with the other children!!

      • A marathon is 26 miles you pedo idiot. Now go back to your dolly time on second life. And seeing as where you are from, get your teeth fixed too. Lol

      • @OneNameOnly. I’m not a pedo idiot LOL and I showed you the site, what more do you want? You are like my aunts terrier, biting around peoples ankles and yipping cause you are pissed off; cause we rubbed your nose in your own shit you took on the carpet. . Point is I take part . Hahah fix your teeth, thats a stereotype that only people like you could come up with, more evidence to show how ignorant you are.

        Now sit the fuck down and calm yerself and go hang at the welcome hubs you normally sit at with the other anal retentives. You might actually be able to find someone to learn you to troll better šŸ˜› . You fall for the bait every-time, typical triggered LOL, easy prey.

      • One of the first insults of someone insecure and unable to refute their points is to launch an attack on the person’s looks rather than their words. Especially true online.

        It’s also the sign of someone likely suffering from what they try to push on others.

        Get some help, OneNameOnly.

      • The conning of people in SL, you can file an AR report for these issues or take the person to RL small claims court if you feel you were defrauded out of a great deal of money. You have a ban button in SL, you can ban people from your land, property, groups, sims, etc..

        It is my personal opinion if I feel that kid avatars should be banned, just as it is your personal opinion that they should not. If you want someone to respect your opinion, then respect theirs.

      • If you want to ban kid avis might as well ban everything. Adults do just as bad/worse things like Rape, Beastiality. I have even seen adult couples rping incest relationships. Then you have the people that use them anime/kemono avis there larger then a standard kid avi but still playing as a young underage anime character they just dont look as realistic. So lets ban the whole anime world in sl to wile were at it. Point is if we banned everything everyone dont like there would be nothing left. Mind your own business an enjoy your sl an dont worry about what everyone else is doing. And if your that bored in sl that you have nothing better to do then go around finding things to report then your the one that needs help an should be banned. And for Sansor not having kid avi thats mostly do to with its not same family rp environment as sl is its more focused for creators, nothing do with banning kid avies there.

      • LL don’t do anything, fraud is seen as an out of world transaction of faith. LL cover their asses to not pay out anything in money or indeed, have any responsibility to their customer base . That’s always been the case. As for your opinion I accept and respect it, I just don’t agree with it. Which I can’t say you do in return to me nor to the others who have bounced back your posts

    • Banning kid avatars is not the answer. There are thousands of us across the grid who use our child avatars to role play in truly innocent and NON-sexualized ways. If you see an adult avatar hugging a child avatar, you automatically assume pedophilia, when it’s simply a parent and child embracing. Don’t be so quick to judge. You never know the reason someone plays a child in SL. As someone who plays an adult avatar and a child avatar on two separate accounts, I can tell you , it can be very therapeutic for many reasons. Some of us simply missed out on our childhood, some were abused as kids, some were neglected, some were impoverished, you just never know. SL gives us a way to sort of relive that childhood in a happy way through controlled role play. Yes, there are pedophiles out there on the grid. There are pedophiles out there on the streets in real life, omg, lets ban children in the real world! You see how ignorant that sounds? Through my years playing a child avatar in SL, it has helped me come to term with many things that have haunted me in real life. So, if that is a bad thing in your eyes, so be it!

      • ” Some of us simply missed out on our childhood, some were abused as kids, some were neglected, some were impoverished, you just never know. SL gives us a way to sort of relive that childhood in a happy way through controlled role play.”

        Exactly what I was talking about earlier. Being a kid in a virtual world does not fix the fact you were abused, neglected, impoverished, etc..people should go and get real life help for these issues, not being an adult and typing goo goo ga ga behind a computer screen or asking someone to change your prim diaper.

        The main issue is that there sickos in SL who are being pedos with kid avatars. This type of behavior could end if kid avis were banned.

      • LOL yeah and then once they are banned , you find some other shit you don’t like to make up for that, where will it end? Man I wish stupidity was an offense in SL, I have you banned on the spot, happily…gladly!!

      • No, it doesn’t fix it. However, it does help. I get there are pedos out there with kid avatars and that is an issue, a big issue in SL. As I said before, though, banning child avatars is NOT the answer. Child avatars and family role play is our thing. You don’t have to like it, but acknowledge it and respect it, just as we do your sex role play since you obviously believe everything in SL revolves around sex. If you want to ban child avatars because there are sickos out there using them, then ban adult avatars too..lets just close Second LIfe, shut down the the Internet and end the world…then we’ll be free of the sickos. Otherwise, realize its the driver, not the vessel that is the problem.

      • Oh you are so smart Someoneinsl so smart indeed that you think banning kid avi’s would change that fact truly? Most of your comments are so close minded it is actually laughable and what do you do in SL sit and read your bible and try to convert people to your closed minded thinking?

      • Let’s just ban all sex. I’m down with that, seeings as how I have a ten year old kid avatar specifically to get away from sexuality, to be able to relive the days before I was sick, and to relax. Everything I do as a kid avatar is innocent and if some sicko hits on me, they’re in the wrong. When I’m on my adult account, it doesn’t matter how loudly I scream I’m non-sexual. People take my actions as sexual. People hit on me. I’m “in the wrong” for refusing because how dare I be in Second Life without the intent to date and marry and divorce and have prim babies and do all the sexual things. How dare I be female and not be ugly if I don’t want to be hit on.

        Oh and.. I am in therapy. This is actually part of my therapy. I had a great childhood and going back to it helps me deal with my adult real life and being a rape survivor. I don’t wear diapers or piss or cry or whine like a newborn – my kid avatar looks like Punky Brewster and does kid things. It’s nice to have permission to color and play.

        I think you’re the one with an issue, Someone. If you see sexuality and negativity in everything, something is wrong. Have you tried logging off and getting professional help?

      • A-Kid it seems that your therapy is obviously not working. If you think being a kid avatar and coloring in a 3D virtual world is going to help you get over being a rape victim, think again. Whether you rp as a kid or not, it will not erase the fact you were raped. You should ask for your money back from your counselor because they seriously are not making it better for you, in fact they are probably just milking this kid avatar bs to you, so that they can keep you coming back and getting your money. You do not need permission from a 3D virtual world, while dressed up as a fake kid, in order to color and play. You can do these things in the safety of your home in RL. Since you obviously love being a kid and it is part of your “therapy” I challenge you to dress up as a kid in RL and see how far you get pretending to be one.

      • You have clearly missed the point of virtual worlds. Log off. They’re not for you.

      • Yes because you’re a therapist with 30 years of experience and you know the exact details of my therapy and diagnosis and not some person on the internet who cannot wrap their mind around non-sexual experiences – correct?

        Oh wait….

        So tell me, does your SL avatar look exactly like you? Are they your age? Do they dress exactly like you? Are they the same gender? Are they human? Because if they aren’t, you too are engaging in fantasy play just as I am. I am engaging in fantasy play just like 99.9% of Second Life. I challenge you to make your avatar look EXACTLY like you to support your belief that all fantasy play is wrong. Tell us how far that gets you.

        And dress like a child in real life.. oh my dear, you do understand that how a ten year old dresses isn’t that much different than an adult – right? Aside from needing a bra. Adults wear shirts and jeans and dresses too. In fact, bright colors and unicorns are “in” for adults atm. You don’t spend much time around real children, do you? I mean, that’s likely for the best because you’d think them hugging you was sexual and ask to ban them. I don’t think you understand children at all and that’s why you want them banned. Who hurt you as a child? What made you hate children and make them all sexual?

        I do actually color and play in real life as well but people are far less accepting of an adult being imaginative and being silly in real life.. despite the fact even people like Fred Rogers said adults need to play and use their imaginations too. I’d talk about the other parts of my therapy but the fact you can’t respect anyone but yourself and whatever vomit pours out of your mouth means you’d find a way to mock that too. It’s sad when someone who roleplays a child and is a child at heart tells you that you’re being immature.. but here we are!

      • From AKid…oh my dear, you do understand that how a ten year old dresses isnā€™t that much different than an adult ā€“ right?Ā ….AKid you are one very fucked up individual. You sound like a pedo. You have this sick fascination with being a child and come up with every excuse why it is so right for you. Then you say if people do not agree with you, they are in SL for sex. Your mind is fucking warped. Stay off Sl. You seriously scare me. Hopefully they put you in a mental hospital since computer baby therapy is not working for you .

      • I’m asexual.

        Do you know what asexual means?

        It means I’m not sexually attracted to anyone. Therefore, “pedophile” is a non-insult and an impossibility as I’m not sexually attracted to anyone or thing and I’ve said that repeatedly. Non-sexual. Don’t like sex. Rape survivor. What part of that says “kiddie fucker” to you? Logic. Use it.

        I’m 100% picking on Someone who is the epitome of what you are saying. They think ALL kid avatars are here to be sexual. All of them. Have you bothered to read? No, you haven’t. At all. And how is a ten year old a baby? How do you know if my therapy is working? You know me in real life? Please enlighten me, dear. I think you’re just trying to find an easy target to vomit negativity at.

        Hopefully you learn reading comprehension at some point. Do you feel Mister Rogers should be in a mental hospital too?

      • AKid you don’t have to justify how you spend your second life to anyone. Just remember that. I appreciate your discourse and your frank discussion about your second life. I appreciate you making it something to benefits you.

      • @ Someoneinsl Again I have to pick on you on your lack of realization of what good SL does for others. Just because a good percentage of people on SL are suffering compulsive addictions on gacha as a means to fill an empty void , does not mean everyone’s life in SL is used similarly. The use of roleplay in particular Gestalt therapy has been known to be therapeutic to aid the resolution of past conflicts as well as feeling holistically good about yourself , where you make the life choices denied from you.

        SL allows for that because in the real world, we have very judgmental people who are open to place labels on people. This goes from adult abuse victims to transgender people to those suffering mental health problems. Many people stigmatize others ignorantly to what they don’t understand to their own limited opinion but it does not make it the right opinion. So your comment as to “I challenge you to dress up as a kid in RL and see how far you get pretending to be one.” is flippant. Yes SL is no means a replacement for RL therapy but in conjunction it help may to mend broken people, who are we to challenge that?

        I could well ask you the same to follow your own advice, to go out and meet a few SL kids and see how far you get. You suffer the same aversion issues to your opinions, as some who refuse to challenge themselves to get over hurdles.

      • A kid, are you sure you were not on “My 600 Pound Life” Everything you have said is what these overeaters blame on making them how they are. Always kid problems. I never have heard their therapist tell them to go play a 10 year old on a computer game to help them though.

      • OneNameOnly, Thats a shitty comment to make man, seriously that’s poor taste!! Everyone has different coping mechanisms for different things. I rather someone get help on a 10 year old game than end up over-eating, depressed, suicidal or whatever.

      • Pretty sure I weigh less than you and you’d make a better reality show contestant but if you want to be that delusional and toxic, I can’t stop you. Funny way to make yourself feel good though.

    • I would give you 100 tumbs up if I could … have no idea why there are -43 dislikes. People are just sick if they think acting like a child is normal. GROW THE FUCK up all of you who play children.

      • You want to know why there’s 43+ dislikes?

        Because some of those people have chosen in 2018 to be more open-minded and understanding of other human beings.

        Because some of those people have chosen; while they may not agree with the actions of ageplayers or even sexual ageplayers, to accept that everyone has their thing. Their way of coping, their taboo kinks and their way of life and simply don’t give two craps if it’s not hurting them or real children.

        Because some of those people are or know ageplayers or even sexual ageplayers on or off Second Life and have chosen to realize and accept that those who partake in either catagory just maybe aren’t all bad people who are into child exploitation/
        molestion /pornography.

        And ofcourse… Some people simply like the color red.

      • Personally for me close minded Fascist Nazi talk seem to go very well with red šŸ™‚

      • As Fixing Your Logic said, people are more open minded and accepting of others that are different than them. Not all people who are “different” are bad people. Hell, I see more people being called out for being horrible human beings on here that DON’T play child avatars or age play, more than anything else. So where’s your logic that all child avatars should be banned?

        I think, that if you see a child avatar or find someone that enjoys age play, and you instantly think “ewwww, they must be into pedophilia and child pornography!!!”…then that says way more about YOU and what’s fucked up in YOUR head. Suggesting that child avatars should be banned just because you don’t like it is a bit of a fascist view to take. Hitler was a lot like that too ya know. Just sayin’….

    • @Someoneinsl So what is worse? Crying and whining as a 1 year old or the crying and whining you are doing on a public forum? As you can see, your opinion is hardly a unanimous one.

  33. As someone who would choose any other body before Maitreya, it amuses me to see all the angst from Lelutka head owners over their lack of options and I can’t help but wonder how many of them ironically enjoy all the Maitreya exclusives. LOL

  34. 28 & 29: Finally the mask is down… you know…you can’t hide shit under the water for too long…soon emerges.

  35. #31 & #32

    Belle & Ines are two of my favorite people in SL. Sounds like someone has sand in their vagina because they feel left out. You obviously don’t really know either of them.

    • Sand in the vag sounds like a more pleasant option than to ever be a part of that group. And yes i know them

    • I never understood the idea that you can only be a female avatar if you are female in RL and male avatar if you are male in RL. There was a great club I used to go to that was super busy and popular for years… totally get ruined over the idea another person I knew was male in RL on his female avatar. I already assume to think most avatars are role playing people. I know straight men that play females because it’s just fun. The drama over this friend being male, was worse than junior high students fighting over who is the best looking popular girl in class. I always look at an avatar for who they portray on SL, I dont care about the RL of the person. If Katarina is male? Okay! I don’t get why it’s such a big deal.

      People are just ridiculous lol

      • It Isn’t a big deal!… Many people actually have both female & male avis and possibly a cat or fairy maybe some other thing. Anybody who cares about that might have very low self confidence about their gender identity and possibly sexuality I guess? The only place this is even debated about in a virtual world/online game is SL any other place I’ve gone it is assumed 90% of all the avis are Guys behind the comp no matter what the gender is of the avi itself. If you are a Girl behind the comp it’s a “oh ok i didn’t know” and it doesn’t matter even then if the Girl has a male avi. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter and is nobodies business except maybe those who you “date” in SL because then there are the feels tied into all that.

  37. The person who made this list thought they were clever by putting a few red herrings in there, but we’re not altogether fooled. They’re just mad they’ve stepped on all these toes with their crazed behavior, and are consequentially all alone now, but we see you. You think slandering us will make you feel better, well get ready.

  38. #28 Jacqueline Annie Gaddis always licking designers ass, I still don’t get why do they fall for her shit. And I can bet she’s gonna keep taking advantage of people like nothing ever happened. WAKE THE FUCK UP FUCKERS!

    • What I don’t understand is why pay for services the original “inventory’ will offer you for free? Business wise this is silly as hell..

  39. So, a lot of people on that list of “pedos” can be caught doing some rather unsavory things, but I know first hand a few names on that list are completely off the wall. Having been in sl for 12 years, mostly as a child avatar, I can tell you this list was thrown together from some hatred for gay people (and some appear to be randomly added in, Logan Pan?? Really?? Tyler Witherspoon?? Sawyer and Dylan?? Have you ever even spoken to any of these people?)

    I used to rent with Mr. Witherspoon (who by the way, is a public servant and spends most of his time helping save lives) and had to laugh out loud when I saw this. Logan Pan I’ve seen at tons of events and I can assure you he’s about as asexual as they come. He’s peter pan for christ’s sake. Sawyer and Dylan? When are these two NOT helping some event or group or doing nice things for other people? I have seen one of them with my own eyes stand up and speak out when they thought something fishy was going on at a sim.. so again, another high doubt on this list.

    I recognize almost every single name on this list, and while I have no specific ties to any of the names (though I do agree with a couple,) this list should really be taken with a grain of salt.. petty sl secret work at its finest.

    • I recognized quite a few of the names also and many it was quite a “huh what?” and though my name didn’t make it on the list since it’s a “part 1” TBH based off of the names this week…. If part 2 comes to be I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if my name was on it based solely on how my avi looks and/or who I know. The person who made that list has probably never met or talked to most there and grouped with somebody who made them rather Butthurt.

  40. My name is personally on this list, I am by far not a Pedo, and do not appriciate being accused of such things. Whoever you are, you can kindly go fuck yourself.

  41. #28, Oh Annie, remember when you threatened me saying I would lose everything i have because you didnt like me, even tho I never knew who you where until that day? Im so glad your mask is falling and your ugly face is there for everybody to see. Enjoy your karma sweetheart.

  42. #6 is not accurate. My name is on it, for unknown reasons, and I can assure you that I’m not a pedophile. I don’t know who on that list you’re mad at, but it’s kinda stupid to randomly pick friends off of their FB lists and assume that they are pedophiles.

    To those of you reading, while I can’t speak for everyone on that list, just know that at least some of them are definitely NOT pedos. This fool is just trying to start messes.

    • Sorry to hear that you made “the cut”. I can’t speak for everyone here but I’m quite sure many of us view that quite a few on that list are random names pulled out of a hat and we are take it with a grain of salt.

      • Coffee Break is right . On Number 6 and the other related ones on this list is a mixed bag of accusations that don’t make sense. Some were wrongly listed as they come from a list that’s linked in a particular social circle. The rest are random and make little sense other than posted as a drama retort to some other drama. As much as I cannot say on the list what is true or not, what is clear is that the link is to finding out the poster identity of this list. The poster made a massive mistake in naming three people who do nothing as intended on that list. So far those are the random names I can pull out quickly as a few others I have no idea who they are, so some could be just random names. Can’t be sure until the next list comes out and then I will be sure of the posters true intentions, but I know its another kid or teen that is linked with the families mentioned in question and who they are social with.

        I say this much, people go about with heads up their own ass and crawling to people, who really will turn so quickly against each other. Most are well known for it, so maybe its better to choose better people in your lives from now on. Not that it helps the damage caused but a lot of people named here are closely linked with each other as friends /associates, so the poster has a salty crack itch about something that affected him in that. The whole list is way off though and taken as it is, a pile of bollocks.

        As for Part 2 or Part 3 on this list, I don’t think i’m interested as the first one was so off the wall that its not serious. The poster needs to be less anon and have the bollocks to come say what they have to say it, because it seems you have a lot of issues to address. Some of you who made the cut and accused wrongly, go back to your lives and live them. Your lesson is to pick better people in your life and start asking questions and talking among you all who may have named you and sort it amicably. Sorry you made this list, you often find the people who create some of these accusations on SL are as guilty ( if not worse) of the crimes they themselves point fingers at. Here is a chance maybe to bring you all a little closer together, if you have sense you will use it and start making things better for you all. So these accusatory people don’t have a chance to fire wild claims at you or other people in the future.

        I am an adult in SL but I am also a kid, I have seen a lot of bad shit going on and you all are equally as guilty of not helping each other or backing them when they need it. So maybe now you can use that to be more helpful and more understanding of others instead of being as fragmented as you all are. Use this as an advantage and not a hindrance.

    • Who ever admits to being a pedophile??

      Anyway without proof most of what is said here is taken with a grain of salt.

      • True. Just like the salty people on here hide their identities behind accusational posts so they aren’t attacked for making them. They’re afraid of having a dose of their own medicine. However, calling someone a pedophile is actually dangerous to the accused person and that is against the law. It’s not the same as calling people names. It is accusing them of a criminal offense. So don’t be surprised when people defend their reputation.

    • The person who made this list has lost friendship with half these people on the list. I guess being all alone makes them salty, but we see you, you’re the prime number of bad experiences.

      • This is about the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life. Firstly, Ageplay is not PEDOPHILIA asshole. If you (whomever made this list).

        “Ageplay or age play is a form of roleplaying in which an individual acts or treats another as if they were a different age. Ageplay is roleplaying between adults, and involves consent from all parties. Ageplay can be sexual or non-sexual, it all depends on what people agree to within their relationship. Portraying any age can be the goal of ageplay, from babies, to the elderly. Usually this involves someone pretending to be younger than they actually are, but more rarely can involve assuming an older role.” – Wikipedia

        “Ageplay is NOT CONSIDERED pedophilia or related to pedophilia by professional psychologists. Individuals who ageplay enjoy portraying children, or enjoy childlike elements typical of children present in adults.

        Ageplay does not involve the sexual attraction to biologically underage people.

      • And yet age play is a banneable offense in SL, so you are wrong and if you are going to quote factual sites, do not quote a site like Wikipedia, which is neither factual and can be edited by anyone.

      • I am still looking to see where age play is an offense in TOS. Because if that is so. It would be a very empty grid and Second Life would not be running. Who on earth creates their avatar to be the same age in real, when you can be anything of any age in SL. That is what SL is all about.

        Ageplay or age play is a form of roleplaying in which an individual acts or treats another as if they were a different age. Ageplay is role playing between adults, and involves consent from all parties. Portraying any age can be the goal of ageplay, from babies, to the elderly. Usually this involves someone pretending to be younger than they actually are, but more rarely can involve assuming an older role.

        Isn’t that the point of this social platform? To be want you want to be?

        LL certainly takes a dim view on any registered sex offenders creating an account and have engaged in or attempted to engage in conduct with minors on the Service that violates this Agreement, or that for any other reason may pose what LL deem to be an unacceptable risk to the Service community.

        So whoever published that list of names really needs to take it up with Linden Labs as per TOS. Let them deal with the issue.

      • Check here: https://www.lindenlab.com/legal/second-life-terms-and-conditions

        Now scroll down to this section: 4. CONDUCT BY USERS OF SECOND LIFE

        Now see this paragraph:
        (vii) If you are an adult, impersonate a minor for the purpose of interacting with a minor using Second Life, or stalk, harass, or engage in any sexual, suggestive, lewd, lascivious, or otherwise inappropriate conduct with minors on Second Life, or attempt to contact or meet with such minor outside Second Life, including without limitation electronically or physically, if you have reason to know or Second Life concludes that you should have known you were interacting with a minor on Second Life, or otherwise engage in any conduct that violates our Teen Safety Guidelines;

        (viii) Post, display or transmit any material, object or text that encourages, represents, or facilitates sexual ā€œage play,ā€ i.e., using child-like avatars in a sexualized manner. This activity is grounds for immediate termination. You may review our full Age Play Policy here. You understand and agree that we may report any and all such incidents ā€” and any and all of your corresponding personal information ā€” to any authorities we deem appropriate, whether or not it in and of itself violates the law of your (or any) jurisdiction; or

      • Which means they are allowed on SL but have rules, like you and I have rules playing adults. Not that many adults adhere to those rules. I seen many adults in PG sims with dildos hanging out them, BDSM leashes and all sorts openly in well labelled PG areas. Maybe you start talking about these people too. AS I said before, there is always stupid and ignorant people that think the grid is their own liberty, but those ignorant people do NOT speak for everyone as a whole.

        If you openly address the faults of other people and how they manifest in SL and how some screw up the dignity and name of other people like them, you will do far better. And yes, that includes all women who feel the need to attach a mesh vagina or guys with a mesh dong with them shopping in crowded events. What you use that to put your Lindens in? At least any kid I have seen in the grid has never done that, plenty adults do. So maybe direct your thoughts to such people instead of hoaxes and petty indifference

      • I knew someone that was accused of ageplay on SL, in RL they were also convicted of sexual assult of a minor under the age of 8. Having someone play a child for sexual purposes, is unacceptable in many ways. If you are going to sit here and defend an adult having sexual relations with someone playing a child avatar, you might want to get some therapy yourself. It’s disturbing.

      • Finally someone who gets it. Thank you Respect for having the balls to tell it like it is.

      • Yes but Respect said quite clearly said she knows of “someone”. Someone being the singular. You are saying all kids avs are which is the plural which is ironic in your statement, because you totally missed the point of what Respect is saying. So you don’t get it , you only picked out bits to feed your propaganda . LOL

      • That is incorrect , the people who name others may not be people who lose friendships but people who hide inside friendships. Do not think that people who are not popular with others are the troublemakers. Popularity is a pile of bullshit, there are many people who are not popular and are the nicest people. I said this already in Secrets 500 where another kid was being brutally cyber bullied, where were all you people when he needed it?

      • Maybe because the “kid” in question was not a kid but an adult pretending to be one, so why should we care if an adult is rping as a kid is being bullied?

      • Plenty, because it is still a person with feelings and still a person being actively picked on which is a social crime no matter what they are. A person which I may add YOU are not. The cure??? , Go play on the white lines on the road deary and make the world a better place !!

      • @ Someoneinsl.

        Because its called being human. If there is bullying going on on a personal level, that no matter what you are does not negate the human being that is yourself. Same as if you were being bullied or anyone else you love, bullying and its affects is the same no matter who its directed to. Or are you that shut off from humanity you cannot see this logically?

    • Best thing to do in these cases is ignore it. People create names they don’t like to accuse of horrific things, if you truly did nothing wrong and this information about you is incorrect, then you have nothing to worry about and it will pass. The less you say to anyone that might IM you, the better other than its incorrect. Don’t get overly defensive and if anyone accuses just say nothing. It’s always the best way, it will pass otherwise. I hate when list of names are brought up like this, as it’s not proof of anything and is likely meant to abuse someone they just don’t like for some silly reason. To accuse anyone of it wrongfully, just hurts people who are actually abused or dragged into it.. it also shows other pedos that really ARE out there, they can get away with it as they will be not looked at so closely. Make one statement nicely and let it go, best thing you can do

  43. Happy Easter and wtheck is with all the small writing and writing without a drop shadow so mf can read it?! šŸ˜€

  45. #12 now i know a lot of girls are thirsty as a mf.. but if a 3rd party is causing an issue in a relationship and is friends with the male of it….its his job to to fix it 1 way or another. Guys love to watch girls fight over them.. they’re douchey like that… but its because we at 1 time or another (depending if you’ve grown up any) have whined over an idiot. HE could fix that ‘problem’ if he chose.. thats all im saying.

    • The whole thing was about how pathetic she looks because she doesnā€™t understand that an ex is an ex and she shouldnā€™t be making these weird ass long ass lovey-dovey post about this dude. Like I donā€™t know if you would be comfortable hearing that an ex girlfriend is saying that your sl husband and real-life boyfriend was her first love but last time I checked I would punch a bitch For even thinking that was OK to say so the post was to shame her into not doing that anymore because she sent a 10 page worth book to J about how disrespectful J was for asking what was up with her husband, because sheā€™s OK with him being friends and talking but sheā€™s not OK with them talking about her and disrespecting her and J has already told her husband and heā€™s doing that (Atleast from what Iā€™ve seen and been told) but sometimes he slips up. Iā€™m just here to defend my friend because I love and respect her and if I were his ex I wouldā€™ve just walked away because I wouldā€™ve had too much feelings thatā€™s just my perspective also she deserves to be on this website because your whole fucking family is whack and disrespectful I know multitude of people they have screwed over and is just their time to fucking have one family member feel like shit so you know I rather be a bad guy and make my friend know sheā€™s in the right then to let this little scummy bitch feel like she can just have one over on fucking j because eden is in kā€™s head. She also tried to deny that that post was about him by taking the photo certainly not mentioning his name and then when Jay said something about it she openly admit it was about him so you take it how you want but this bitch fucking deserves to be put in her place especially when the relationship isnā€™t hers and she doesnā€™t get to determine how she stands in that relationship. She gets to walk away. Thatā€™s only option I see that fits.

      • im soo not reading all that..lol point is if ur man has female friends he can fix a problem it may be causing.. the end.

      • Basically… this bitch can suck dick and move tf on. she don’t need be all up on J’s man like that,they’ve already tried to resolve this issue. and E got mad at J for trying to. – not my problem anymore. just hope E learns to move tf on.

      • OR the fact the guy is still talking to her should be a sign for everyone to classify him as a fuckboy. The current girlfriend is an idiot, so is the fuckbag who wrote the secret. You probably only know one side of it. The guy on the other hand is playing all of you to sit back and watch you guys fight over him

      • I know every side. Including my own. This eden bitch need go fuck with someone in her family like the rest them crazy fucks do.

  46. #6 Seems like to me someone just took the most well known SL big kids and put them on the list without even knowing their facts or having evidence behind it. Please take your bitter ass a seat and stop trying to fuck up peoples lives just because you don’t have one

    • Yiss… I’m starting to think that somebody has the strong case of the Jellies and way too much Salt in their possession >.>

      • I think so, It’s odd that its twice in 2 weeks we have a lot of issues coming from kids against each other. Damn shame but they really don’t help each other when it happens. Much as I feel sorry for anyone being maliciously slandered or whatever, they certainly don’t help each other out much when it does šŸ™

        And what is this about “SL Big kids”, there is no such thing as “SL big kids”, that’s just a pile of bigheaded nonsense. There were many nice kids on that list who are in no way big people. No wonder people get salty when others are addressing other people as bigger than each other.

    • Wtf this list isn’t the most well-known big kids. There are several names on that list that do not surprise me at all. It has been one of those things that people know happens but isnt really talked about. Clearly there has now been some falling out and they are doing this. The vast majority of kids on Sl are non sexual but it cannot be denied some are. That does not make them instantly a pedo in RL however it makes them a sexual ageplayer. That is against ToS and against most peoples moral codes, including mine, but they are not affecting RL kids.

      • A number of names on here are bound to be innocent people caught up in the poster’s vitriol though.

  47. Looks like the garbage man forgot to get the trash. Listen Karra you need to go see a psychiatrist for your obsession issues. Let the beef go, your actions only prove your unemployment is because you canā€™t act professional and you make yourself look bad. Phe still workin that ass while you steadily stalking her fb fishing for drama that ainā€™t there. Lmfao coooommmiiicaall. The ignorance and stupidity is one with you carry on with your life.

  48. #7 its really not the creator of cosmetics/skins job to boost lelutka sales.. lol if you liked catwa makeup u shoulda bought catwa…have u ever heard the cry babies in the gen lab group? their group chat makes me want to rip my rl head off crying over makeup and calling catwa users fucked up names lmao… petty ass old ladies… research before u buy or dont complain

    • Some of us don’t like the Catwa head. Some of us think the huds are a total dumpster fire.

      Some of us hate the shape of the profile and the super puffed up lips.

      I’ve tried every demo and I still hate it. I don’t want to have to purchase a head I don’t like just to get better skin support.

      It’s fine – the skin creators who design for multiple heads are the ones who will get my money.

      In the long run, it is a good thing for my wallet. I have hunted down the skins i like for the heads I own and any fun-money I have for SL will be spent with designers/creators who are not Catwa/Maitreya exclusive.

      (Yes, I own the Maitreya body – it is the first one I purchased – then I found better bodies.)

      • thats fine and dandy love… why cry to the designer about it? lol get a diary

      • You assume I’m the one who posted the secret. I haven’t said anything to any of the designers who don’t create for Lelutka, Akeruka, Omega, TMP, Genesis, etc.

        I support the creators who do – The Skinnery, Lara Hurley, YS&YS, Pink Fuel to name a few.

        They support multiple heads and/or Omega and they have my custom.

        The point that the secret maker is trying to make is that there is still a market out there that may be a bit more niche, but who still have Lindens to spend and will flock to quality creations if they were available.

      • i didnt assume shit besides you’re so fucking whiney.. you could have saved your hair from falling out by researching 1st….
        just like its your SL to do as you choose… its every other person.. creator..designer as well.. just fucking deal with it..

        Yes more people will go as they find out ..great…grand..wonderful…but maybe the creator has a life and stays to 1 brand specific because thats how they make ends meet with time for rl things?! who knows.. why complain though… i wear maitreya and have 4 other bodies as well… and a brand i like on only 1 item didnt make the item maitreya….until now i never cried about it.. who cares?!?! next… im sure somewhere in the world a terrorist attack could happen but u worry about ur leltuka weirdo.

      • Your reaction is so odd, why resort to name-calling because I say I don’t like the Catwa head?
        I am thrilled with how my avatars have turned out and I don’t have a strong desire to keep buying new skins, I simply understand why those who would like to refresh their faces every so-often are looking for more options.

      • because ‘entitled’ people infuriate me…lol im kinda happy u wrote again because didnt u post say something about eh-hem ‘my custom head’ … why doesnt ms. custom head get some custom makeup/skin..n stop custom crying =)

      • Your reading comprehension is problematic. Custom is another word for business. Regular dealings with a shop or business by customers. Example: “If you keep me waiting, I will take my custom elsewhere”

        I apologize if English is your second language and the vocabulary is above your comprehension.

        It seems that you’re missing half of what I’m saying. I’m happy with the way my avatars have turned out using the creators who create for my heads. (I have several avatars and different heads – again – i do this because it is fun).

        Nothing I’ve said is entitled or demanding. I am going to spend my money on the things I like and on the creators who make things I like.

      • There are at least a dozen Catwa heads… yes, Catya is played out. I can’t imagine why anyone still wears it, it’s embarrassing to look like you’re cousins with half the grid (and no matter what you think you’ve done to customize yourself, you do, Catya holdouts…), but a bento head is a big purchase that some people probably can’t make too often. But to act like there’s only one Catwa head, or that all of them have the same lips and profile, is laughably ignorant.

      • I’ve tried every single Catwa demo in order to give it a chance, but they all have the same distinctive feel to them that does not work for me. They don’t feel like what I want to wear – it doesn’t work for me. The huds are still terrible and I stand by that.

        Now that I think about it, I understand why people are lashing out so much, though. People saying that they don’t like the Catwa head are essentially saying, “I DON’T LIKE YOUR FACE!” and I guess that is raising your hackles a bit? Your face is fine, I just donā€™t want your face on my head/your head on my body.

        I make my avatars for my pleasure and enjoyment and Iā€™m using money I have earned to do it. Why should I purchase a head I donā€™t like just for extra support?

    • I don’t think the post is about boosting LeLutka sales but rather a plea for more creators (already making LL compatible product and some of the quality applier creators who are not yet making LL) to make more. One suggestion above is to buy the Omega option but sometimes the fit (on either Catwa or LL) isn’t that great. And to me the post isn’t about preferring Catwa makeup over LL, it’s just about having options šŸ™‚

      • i cant..lol i just cant…. i have a fix for all the crying….learn to make your own things. problem solved. finally.! xD lol creators make what they like.. if its not working for you…make your own.

  50. This is your friendly reminder that accusations of pedophilia is a serious manner and that if you truly think someone partakes in that practice you should be contacting authorities, not posting on a rumor site.

    Youā€™re a piece of shit if you truly have a concern and this is your course of action.

    • Age play, although sick and pedophilia in nature, isn’t illegal if its two adults behind the screen. So..

    • Except, that they didn’t make an accurate list. They put ME on it and I definitely know that I’m not a pedophile. Lol
      They are just putting that up there for drama.

      • Ohhh I know this. I know half the people on this list and know they are not pedophiles. They are some of the most amazing and creative people in SL. I just really hate this shit too and how immature it is to ā€œcall outā€ something that is actually quite serious on a gossip site. This list lost credibility the second it was posted here.

        I also know age play is not the same as pedophilia, and authorities was probably not the proper term. People who fuck around with that terminology though, need to remember how serious it really is in RL, but I suppose thatā€™s asking for too much maturity.

    • LOL no ones comments back at it are April fools tho, you idiot!! Loooooollll

    • What kind of person would do something like this and this descriptive to their friends? What a shit friend you are. Or this is probably just Bridget or Ines trying to see if they can lighten the blow of this by making it seem like a joke. Nice try….. itā€™s too accurate to look like a joke

      • @True, Yup. However…the sad part is that those people are so damn stupid and childlike mentally, that altho my better judgement wants to completely agree with you, i would not put it pass one of those Black Milk idiots to find something like this amusing, they act and react like a ‘tickle me elmo’ doll being set on fire while activated to pretty much anything, so yeah. At the end, whatever is really going on here, it is embarrassing regardless, no news there.

      • lmao @ ‘tickle me elmo’ doll being set on fire, hahahaha! And true!

      • What is accurate about this? This is a random insult to hurt someone, so ridiculous dumb and replaceable that this looks simply like a fucking joke. Sorry, but you must be drunk or stoned. Get your stuff together.

      • Learn English first before you call people that speak perfect English drunk or stoned

      • @LOLOLO
        What about you ‘get your stuff together’, you lot are just as known for your PAINFUL use of the english language as you are for your flickr fave addiction, so much effort into looking effortless.lol
        But I am starting to think you WERE stupid enough to make this post here as a joke. You are very much typing in ‘Black Milk English’ and the argument behind it is stupid enough to convince me, you are one of them.
        If you did post this, then my guess is that it backfired because some of you got to see just the amount of people who actually despises your buddies, and most likely you too, have you posted your own name on a secret.
        And just in case you are wondering, even with this amount of people who think what they do of you, why is it that it took one of you idiots to post yourselves here and none of us did it before? You guessed it. it because no one gives a shit.
        You are truly only important and famous in your own minds, you are a well known joke, and that is quite different.

      • Lol, no one ‘values’ that thing you attempt to call english, Captain Caveman

        Now maybe stop embarrassing yourself here and go make some desaturated, ‘oh so cool’ SL avatar picture and post on flickr and wait for faves from strangers to make yourself feel a bit better

      • I thought thatā€™s something youā€™re only interested in? Thatā€™s why you ran so madly, did they make you sad? Donā€™t you understand why they get so much faves, compare to you? You who put soooo much effort in the own pics?
        Get over it. You guys the only one who put them in this position. So when you care about faves and comments in flickr, I feel so sorry for you, but nobody would care about it, when people like you wouldnā€™t make it so important.
        Go hug your pillow bitter soul.

      • @CrazyAss: haha, maybe translate that to: ‘What even talking about you are? ‘ so they can understand it better

      • Thanks, now I understand…

        Youā€˜re just haters. A waste of time. Bye bitches.

  53. @6: Why are some of these names on this list? What are you basing this list off of? Have you seen them participate in or encourage age play? Do you have proof? Otherwise you just seem like a bitter, angry person.

    @9: Itā€™s interesting to me that Tink left the management team for N21 and now everything about it seems to be going downhill as far as quality/originality is concerned. I havenā€™t seen some designers in this event that I used to really enjoy.

    • yes somebody please explain #6 that is way to long of a list to not have some type of proof to back it up

      • Alexx, Yuu, Marcus, Ian, Xelm, Boyah, and a bunch of others all fuck in sl, Alexx shapeshifts from a toddler to an adult and has been known to have sex as a toddler or kid with xelm and booyah. They are all some fucked up incestous family it is a really fucked up situation, which everyone knows about but ignores I am guessing someone from their circle is unhappy and now the whistleblower.

      • Do you have any proof or do you just have accusations? I mean really unless you have actual proof you should be laying off the cocaine my man.

      • As I commented on another comment, but I’ll shorten it.

        “If there is infact proof; pictures of the dirty deeds as chatlogs can be fabricated much easier and the poster(s) have had days to type up/alter chats, of the accused in the act of sexual ageplay but the individuals are still on Second Life, then it wasn’t reported then and there like it should have been.

        Which leads me to believe that the poster(s) / commenters willingly took part in or condoned the activities at the time the alleged actions of the accused but then a fight or something there of happened which caused the individual(s) to scream ageplay.”

        So proof likely won’t surface as it will likely incriminate the poster(s) / commenters as well then goodbye anonymity.

      • Seriously.

        If there is proof, go to the right people in the child community and start making reports with said proof. We do not want pedophiles in our community but we also don’t shriek and “pedo panic” on a regular basis. You have to have proof and that proof needs to be solid enough for the Lindens to feel it threatens Second Life. It’s sad the kid community as a whole is more mature and serious about actual pedophilia than people with adult avatars, istg.

        From all I’ve heard/read – this is a witch hunt. A few on that list are dodgy and secret maker likely just posted all their close friends as being “sexual ageplayers” for the sin of friending them on FB or sharing a social group. If this really is sexual ageplay, secret maker, it’s time to shed your anonymity and do something.

    • Zeico has been known to, I’ve known for a fact because I used to know him when I was starting sl, I popped in unannounced on his private sim and I seen it. If you look at his marketplace store there is sheer underwear for kids. is that suspicious yes… its child clothing. There is tons of red flags on him.

      • Where’s the proof? What you are doing is making claims and then providing circumstantial evidence. So what if Zeico sells undies? There is a sizable gap between selling undies and age play, and if he was ageplaying, wouldn’t it make sense for him to keep on the down low or to age play on an alt instead considering he sells undies?

  54. Looks like somebody’s hating on kids again and is willing to try and badmouth multiple businesses and people to try and be “heard”… bai trollface bai *passses you a snotrag to go whine in somewhere else* cause nobody believes your drama bullshit.

    • No one is bad mouthing kids, they are calling out REAL LIFE ADULTS that are choosing to partake in disgusting actions within sl. Sexual ageplay is not only against TOS, it is against the law. The individuals who participate in sex with child avatars within sl are also paying and distributing real life child pornography and contributing to the abuse and exploitation of real life children.

      So again no one is hating on kids, if you want to be a kid in sl BE A KID, don’t be a SICK FUCKING INDIVIDUAL.

      • Calling out??? all I see is a bunch of damn names with no proof/evidence behind it.
        how do you even know if its true?? yeah cause you don’t stop believing every fucking thing you hear a grow the hell up

      • I like your leap of accusing any age player of also being a rl pedo, making and sharing rl cp. I know people in SL can have issues separating real life and second life, but dear god. Even if the rumors are true in SL that means nothing in RL and is a terrible accusation you really shouldn’t throw around lightly unless you have some hardcore proof, and if you do, alert real life authorities and don’t just whine about it on some rumor site online. Age play isn’t illegal if both parties are adults, judging people for that would be the same as thought crimes, so try to learn how differentiate between fantasy and reality.

      • My name is on it and I have never, ever engaged in sexual age-play.
        So yeah, they must be bad-mouthing kids. I would suggest demanding to see evidence before you believe people who simply make “confirmed” lists.

      • Thereā€™s so much wrong with your logic.

        Just because someoneā€™s a pervert and engages in ageplay on Second Life or Real Life, doesnā€™t mean they pay, distribute or condone real life child pornography.

        Sure thereā€™s people who might very well be buying/selling/distributing/soliciting minors in real life, but it may be to your surprise that quite a few who decide to partake in ageplay in Second Life or Real Life are quite against the sexual acts against real children as they often have been victims of sexual abuse themselves.

        And while predisposed to that taboo sexual nature, it doesnā€™t mean that all people will cross that line. Many live healthy lives without harming a child because they are reminded of what it was for them to be put through the abuse and wouldnā€™t ever want someone else; a family member, a friends child or a complete and innocent stranger, to ever fall victim to the heinous acts against them.

        Education time!

        ā€œPedophiliaā€ is a psychiatric disorder. Itā€™s also deemed as a sexual orientation if you do your research. Not all pedophiles are child molesters, and having thoughts about children is not the same as acting on them. You CAN engage in consensual ageplay and be totally against the exploitation of children. Society has blurred the lines so badly over the years just like the bible, but thereā€™s a HUGE difference between the two. It may be hard for you to comprehend this, but itā€™s simple logic and fact. The same asā€¦

        Not all black men have big cocks.
        Not all teenage moms make for shitty parents.
        Not all fat people are lazy.
        Not all gay people get aids.
        Not all blondes are stupid.

        ā€”

        So letā€™s cut the crap and please go back to your drawing board and rethink your slanderous tactics. Youā€™re gunning pretty hard here and youā€™re going to make your points null and void if you keep up with that nonsense illogical thinking.

      • No where did I say I was for or against ageplay, merely defending and educating the fact that “pedophilia” and “child molester/child abuser/child porn enablers” were very different things.

        Even -if- I did condone ageplay between 2 consenting adults be it on Second Life, Real Life or some Third Party chatroom, that doesn’t mean I condone the sexual abuse of innocent children.

        Remember… there’s a difference.

        Happy Easter!

      • I have to agree with @fixing your logic. Just as some of us enjoy the occasional rough/forced rp as weird as it may sound to some people I’m a million percent against the harm of a woman rl. I’ve always thought of second life as myself being the creator of my own little movie. Playing a role is something actors do all the time..we see this i n movies and shows daily. There is nothing wrong with a vivid imagination as long as you’re not really hurting anyone. In the same sense though i know with it being SL you never know if the person you’re playing with is a weirdo that would… but thats something we can’t control.. we can only control ourselves in sl and rl.

      • Regardless of how anyone “feels” about age play- any reaction except disgust is unfathomable to me, but the pit is deep indeed- it is against the terms of service agreed to when creating an account to use the SL platform and is therefore absolutely 100% not OK under any circumstances.

      • @Be+less…”well whatever” so are you saying that we all have to be disgusted by an adult couple getting it on with a little dress up in the bedroom… like lets say naughty schoolgirl/boy role play cause well that could be considered age play as well?

      • u hit the nail on the head with that 1 @coffeebreak. hi5 i feel a stutter coming soon from @be+less+prudish

      • what people do behind closed doors i stay out of…to each his own…i will say if there are sickos id rather them live in SL 24/7 than be on the streets bothering real kids.. thats all

      • me .. You do make a good point. Whatever these people are gettnig up to , it is not being a peodophile as there are no real children involved. I know some of those names on the list and I am quite sure that they do engage in sexual activities on a range of avatars. I personally think the idea of any kind of activity with a child shape/form even in a virtual world is sick. It is also firmly against SL TOS which explicitily states no ageplay. So whilst I do to a certain extent agree with the “behind closed doors approach” I cannot condone it because it breaks TOS. Your point about bothering real kids is valid, as I have had a person on SL actually say exactly that to me, that they are attracted to children, and so engaging in those activities on SL it keeps real kids safe. That shows a very disturbed mind I thihk, but also that they recognised the risk they posed.

      • @popcorneater .. i totally understand ur point as well… the problem here is that all it takes is 1 disgruntled person to comes to sl secrets and say whatever they want true or not.. we cant blame sl secrets for posting.. i think ppl need to better pick their ‘friends’ .. dropping a list of names is not proof. if they had proof.. a screen shot…. convo… whatever…the ageplayer wouldnt have accounts anylonger… because all it takes is hitting the report button with a screen shot of convo or a picture not of sitting on the lap of an adult but something crude going on and hit send… and give it a day or 2 and say goodbye to them.. i know the list is messed up to have there because lets keep it real we’re just as bad as the poster if we believe the hype without seeing actual proof. .. people in sl want to climb the popularity ladder until shit like this happens.. lol.. really dumb. really really dumb. if u choose to play in any ways that are risque/taboo you should not have such a big circle… also i dont really believe the list…. i dont know the names but because starman or mrstarr isnt on it.. lol and any1 in any freak groups should know that name well and have him or 50000 alts on their blocked lists.

      • 100% agree with that me. There are also some names i would have expected to be there but arent. I suppose it comes down to the circles you move in.

      • *applause* You took the thoughts right outta my head!!! *bows*

      • @Fixing your Logic: Wait. What? Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder and ALSO deemed a sexual orientation? So we should just toss it on the end of LGBTQ? Slap a P up there… What you are saying is highly controversial and still majorly open for debate. The idea that someone can come into a virtual world and RP hurting children with other adults in a consensual format may be legal but it’s icky, which is exactly why it’s against TOS. Trying to justify consensual pedophilia and sexual age-play is mind boggling to me. It’s been shown in studies that living out fantasies in your mind or in a virtual world is actually not helpful in the aid of suppressing desires, but conversely fuels it, and creates a justification process where the offender begins to create a confidence and identity around the idea that what they are doing is “normal” and “ok” and “human nature”. It’s not. Having sex or molesting a child who has no ability to consent will never be ok, and RPing it shouldn’t be either. If you aren’t averted by the desire to interact sexually with children and you are allowing yourself to give into it, you need help and you need to build a plan to help keep yourself away from children at all times. Adult housing far away from kids or other temptations. As far as this list goes though it’s total bullshit. I know most of those people and consider them friends and have never seen them behave inappropriately, actually I have seen a couple of the people on that list go postal in situations where they thought it was happening.

      • You are very right… What I’m saying; like many things on this website or even it’s very existence is controversal and open for debate but so are those studies that don’t speak for everybody.

        Those studies speak for only SOME people. I might even give you the benefit of saying many or most but not all. There is always people who benefit from things others don’t. The same as you cannot use the same medication for every patient is the same as not every study is accurate for every human being with .

        And no, I don’t think that the “P” should be tagged onto the “LGBTTIQQ2P…” header. Is there an “H” for Heterosexual or “S” for straight there? No… not everything goes under that header despite even those sexual orietations and identities being once considered mental illnesses, but nice try.

        Also, the reason why sexual ageplay is against the terms of service NOW; because once upon a time it wasn’t, is not because it is “icky”- cute word by the way, but because negative attention was drawn years ago to sexual ageplayers in Second Life and Linden Labs had a choice to make the rule in order to appease society or shut it’s services down. And being a business, they ofcouse made the changes. But they also made other changes removing alot of responsibility from them and putting responsibilities in the hands of the residents by offering various in-world tools and security.

        The reason people get banned now is not because Linden Labs actually cares that much; though there are ofcourse some employees who share the views that sexual ageplay is icky, just like rape, bdsm, bestiality, is gross to some/many people, but because that was the legal agreement they made in order to offer their services to users across the world. It was the easiest route to take for the situation that various countries, states, governments had mixed views and thoughts on.

        Loli/shotacon art is a grey area in some places of the world where in other it’s illegal. From a business perspective, you’re not going to limit your revenue by limiting yourself to the grey area circle so logically, you would conform to the side against; even if you don’t completely agree, because that is where the money also is. Many hosting sites, social media platforms, chat outlets and games take this business stance.

        Now, proceed with your flaming but this time, please space things out or I might not take the time to read your point of view.

      • @Fixyourlogic: 1st of all you are not required to read my responses and if you dislike my format, ok, probably not going to change for you though. You have a way of putting things as if you think they are fact when they are actually debatable statements. This makes your very identity, fixing logic, a poor description of your personality. I used the word “icky” after debate for a much more intense word. It was a calculated decision to not be an asshole, but I see that you are someone who picks on tiny parts of a statement in a effort to belittle someone for the sake of making yourself feel superior, you are not… The reason the S for straight is not on LGBTQ is because it’s meant for the minority, it’s a support system for those who who are part of a community that is discriminated against and marginalized. It’s like when white people say that “all lives matter” and completely miss the point of the “black lives matter” movement. Pedophilia is a disease and as sad as I think it is that there are people who live with it and can’t make it stop, I also realize if you have a disease you take care of it. You change your life in a effort to protect yourself from doing things that would harm others. It’s the same if you have aids you don’t run around sleeping with people unprotected. Anything that blurs the lines of sexual relationships with children is wrong and dangerous.

        @coffeebreak: The reason pedophilia is NOT accepted isn’t because society digressed, it’s because it improved. Realized that any sexual relationship with a child not of consenting age was wrong. This is why the law prohibits it. I don’t really have much else to say to your response except that it’s entirely unfair to compare homosexuality with pedophilia, considering one is a consenting relationship and the other is not.

      • *sighs at WhatTheActualF’s inability to get past nitpicking the details* … Yes society evolved & improved. I never once said anywhere that Pedophilia should be accepted in fact I even stated that it isn’t OK in my book and that there just happens to be acceptable undertone traces left. As far as “comparing” it to Homosexuality.. I did not! I used an example of something you brought to this table 1st. You are the one who compared it and tried to tie it into Homosexuality. And as I am part of the LGBT community you saying “So we should just toss it on the end of LGBTQ? Slap a P up thereā€¦ ” as comparing Pedophilia to such things; and it was rather offensive but I held my tongue on that matter and tried to reason with you. But, alas you can not be reasoned with because you have this urge to nitpick >.>.

      • @Coffee break: You fully misunderstood me then, which I understand, as I was using sarcasm and I do know sometimes sarcasm is hard for people who are very literal. I was making a note that calling it a sexual orientation is like saying we should slap a P on the end of LGBTQ, which I fully believe we should NOT. I wasn’t the one who called it a sexual orientation, I was simply noting how ludicrous it was. I do not feel that I am nit picking but if I am it’s a noble cause. My line when it comes to pedophilia and sexual age-play is sharp and clear. I am stating the dangers of trying to blur a line that should be very crisp. I have said what I said and stated how I feel. I don’t really need to say much more. I think it was important to say it. We live in a world that has an opinion about everything and when opinions get spewed as facts, especially in a subject that is very important to me, as I have spent my life dealing with children who have fallen victim to sexual relationships they didn’t ask for… I can’t help but speak up. To me you are both on the wrong side of the issue, trying to blur lines that have been deliberately drawn in black sharpie. Normally I am very gray when it comes to humans and human nature, however this is one area that I will bring my sharpie to the conversation if I have to.

      • Oh ok, sarcasm is a little hard to pick up on with just text and no voice to lay it on thick specially with such a serious matter… I understand your feelings on pedophilia and I do agree with some of it. Any form of child abuse sickens me to the very depths of my stomach. I have a hard time watching certain movies & such because of it. Your sharp line is fine for you but this is where I differ because mine allows for some grey. We can both agree to disagree but I will not allow you or anyone to tell me or others that how dare there be a different line.

      • @Coffeebreak: I don’t need your permission to give my perspective, and of course we can agree to disagree, we have to… what other possible choice is there for us? I am not a vindictive person and our anonymity makes it easy for us to go about our lives. I do appreciate you taking the time to talk with me and to have a conversation. I am very passionate about this subject, I think it’s easy to know why after reading my last statements. I wish you well and appreciate you being transparent enough to be honest on the subject.

      • My posting identity “Fixing your8 logic” was chosen when an ignorant commenter said that ageplayers condone and partake in child exploitation; buying and selling of pornography involving children. Their logic was ridiculous and therefore I chose this name.

        Unlike some… I don’t change my name based on the comment conversation, I change it week by week and not everything I comment is intended to fix a person’s logic but only voice my part in the conversation. I’m sorry you took my name so literal.

        Just like everything on this site; even your own statements, it’s all a mixture of:

        – Personal stong opinions
        – Facts (though often very little.)
        – Questionable logic
        – Personal experiences
        – Interpretations / mis-interpretations
        – And emotions

        So yes, how I form my words I do indeed have strong belief behind based on the above, don’t we all when posting? Otherwise why would we waste our time.

        But most of all… I believe in not assuming that all people with taboo fetishes are a danger to society and while I don’t agree with it all, I will speak up against the “paint them all with the same brush” mob mentality that is so present on this site and society in general.

      • @Fixing your logic. I am not painting everyone with the same brush, but no, I don’t believe in blurring the lines around child sexual predators. I think you are assuming I am hating on people who struggle with pedophilia, however, I don’t hate people with an illness, I implore them to manage it, and to take every precaution to protect children. There is no innocent RP when it comes to being sexually aroused by the idea of hurting, raping or molesting children. I don’t care if the person playing the baby is a 44 year old man in his mom’s basement. It’s deplorable and dangerous behavior and I personally believe it’s only helping that person justify doing it in RL. Pedophilia goes beyond a taboo sexual fetish. It’s a clinical mental disorder that needs to be managed and suppressed, I am not asking people to go out and hate on people with mental disorders, I am simply saying it needs to be addressed and managed by a professional. This is perhaps an opinion, however it’s not devoid of logic and it is educated. It’s by far the most agreed with plan of action for people dealing on a daily basis with people with pedophilia or the victims of it. I think we have probably beat our points of view into the ground now. Be well.

      • I believe you took my last tidbit to be directed at you or accusing of painting people with the same brush. You misunderstood however.

        That part was to simply explain the reasoning behind my strong opinion(s) on this weeks matters, concluding the explanation of the posting name.

        And for you too, be well.

      • i agree again… im sure LL thinks if someone doesnt like something a resident may want to do with another resident they have a block button… and/or report tools.. etc.. We’re all supposed to be grown enough. I hope all of the people who worry about the next resident are as observant in real life. Instead of playing cartoon cops im sure there are plenty of real life nasty asses that need to be put it their places. Possibly not though because like the posters of secrets every week people have no balls to do anything but sit and complain or hide behind a screenshot with awful font.

      • @WhatTheActualF I think you are missing the point of what was said because you are nitpicking certain details. Yes, pedophilia is considered a psychiatric disorder (sexual orientation not so sure on but who knows). At one time in history Pedophilia was actually deemed as socially acceptable. Just because it no longer is does not mean the predisposition in the human psyche went away completely.

        Look at homosexuality, it was deemed socially acceptable as well but then suddenly was not and society considered sick and wrong. We all know people suddenly weren’t gay just because society said it was wrong … thankfully that whole ideology passed and now homosexuality is making a comeback as acceptable (This does not mean that pedophilia should though).

        But, once again it’s not like it went away completely throughout the ages it’s still been there on some sort of level like when you go to your local sex shop right along side the dildos and fuzzy handcuffs you will see the sexy school girl costume or when you watch some adult porn there is quite a bit of “age play” within reason by 2 adults. Then of course there is lolicon & shotcon that stretches the limits even further right into the grey areas.

        I’ve been thus far giving examples that are on the counter culture side so here are some main stream examples how the pedophilia undertones has prevailed. Look at the flapper dress on the 20’s it was actually on purpose designed to make women look more prepubescent and the more recent baby doll dresses much the same but with boobs. And, then there is the 1955 novel “Lolita” (later made into a movies in 1962 & 1997) that tackled the subject itself.

        There are many other examples that I could give but I figure none of you want to read an overly long list when I can give a few of the more well known ones to make my point clear. Pedophilia is somewhat ingrained in the human psyche and with most on a small scale barely noticeable because it probably steams from the animal instinct for a male to mate with a young healthy female for better chances of child birth.

        But for others at different degrees it can become something more of pedophililac fantasies which as already pointed does not mean that the people who have them condone child sexual abuse or would even consider hurting a child to appease such fantasies and they keep it to adult only age play. We can’t group everyone up to stereotype as horrible predators that will hunt a child if ever given the chance. Many who are predispositioned to this can and do find ways to appease their need in healthy and socially acceptable ways.

        We all have fantasies and kinks that others may view as well “Ewww”. I don’t think any of us would like to have that side of ourselves stereotype and twisted into the extremes of what it actually is.

        (Disclaimer: for those of you who have read the above statement please note I do not think pedophilia is OK. In fact I think it’s Gross. I’m only pointing out that there are different levels of it and as long as there are no actual children involved it would be hypocritical for me and any other to judge that particular “kink”)

  55. #31 wow, is this comic sans??? I can’t take people serious who use that font…. and I don’t understand bullshit… go change your tampon and make more “emotional” bullshit pics… or simply a new alt… bitch

  56. @11 – Complete bullshit just cause your fucking bitter dont mean you need to bring others down fuck off

    • Looks like the Easter bunny handed out karma this year! Get rekt mate, it’s about damn time! XD

    • Iā€™ve heard many rumors and stories about this person and I know for a fact itā€™s the truth. Multiple females falling for his ā€œwoah is meā€ act like trying to act all innocent and play the victim role to multiple people when in fact he is the one causing all the damage. I feel truly sorry for the next female that falls victim to his lies.

      • If you didn’t see it with your own eyes or here it with your own ears don’t invent it with your small mind and share it with your big mouth… There is two side to a story her side his side and the truth… Don’t judge others if you where not in their relationship! And this is totally bs. This is the opion of a salty x of his that can’t handle the fact that she made him leave. Her word is worth nothing cause she try to hook up with a previous x she also bad mouth him to everyone on her friendslist and now she post pics with that x all over Flickr… She suck shit out of her paranoid mind and trying to sell it to the world. If you don’t know someone don’t judge them on the opinion others have about them.

      • “Whoa is me”…seriously? It’s “Woe is me.”, and I sincerely hope you were joking there.

    • I know people who used to be witb him, he uses, abuses, cheats and blames them for his problems. Believe me, no one is bitter about losing him. You get what you dezerve Zack, maybe now is a good time.to better yourself. You got what you deserved, enjoy your Karma.

      • SMH. I know him. Almost every girl I’ve known him to be with. They have all been into poly relationships, BDSM, bi-sexual, they fuck their own female friends, allow him to fuck them as well and etc, when it comes openness for their sexuality. Not saying its wrong or right, do whatever you want. Its your SL. But if you allow yourself to be in that predicament and live that life style. What do you really expect? You can’t sit there as a woman and tell your man “Hey, you can fuck my best friend if you want and let me watch or join” but still get mad if they are still fucking………Abuse? really come on now. All his girls are subs. Wanna be “sub/pet/slave/etc” but when the relationship ends, plays “victim” “he was abusive” O.o GTFOH, with that bullshit.

    • Bwahahahaha! Come on, open your eyes! I’ve known Zack for years. He’s the FIRST to admit that he fucks over every woman he has ever been with. He’s attention seeking and clingy as fuck. When his girlfriends break up with him, the first thing he does is run to every ex gf or friend to look for sympathy and tells them how depressed he is etc. But then two days later he is off fucking the next victim. Glad someone eventually called his ass out.

      • LMFAO some of us have wittnessed first hand how he treats his girlfriends, his transphobic comments about my friends S.O. GTFO with your fake ass defense. Like everyone said, karmas a bitch and its about time you caught yours. Grow the fuck up little boy smh.

      • As for his ex, she is the sweetest person ive ever met and he walked all over her, took his problems out on her and made her feel like everything was her fault. Fuck outta here with your defensive shit. You might wanna take a look at yourself, if you can stomach defending somebody like him. You enable his behaviour, you’re not a friend youre part of the problem. It’s about time he was called for his shit, he did this to himself and HE knows it. Zack can play victim all damn day but there are sooooo many people who can defend his ex. Multiple people have heard how you spoke to her, we know about the time you were arguing and you threw something at your wall. You are abusive and everyone knows it, your little friend more than likely knows it too. There comes a point in time where you need to be accountable for your actions, your little pity party attitude won’t get your far in life. Remember that.

    • I just want to say I know his ex and I know him and I know that she had made it Damn clear to him that she did not want poly or any other girl involved in their relationship and if you knew her you’d know that as well based on her passed relationship. I know both parties tried to make this relationship work but in the end shit happens. It’s not wrong for a guy to want multiple females but too sneak around behind her back and be hella shady instead of owning the fact that you aren’t happy and ending the relationship before it ever got this far…like come on now…if you didn’t wanna be tied down by one girl why take it so far too propose, and plan a wedding, and have a kid together, meanwhile you’re in every other females box trying to get your Dick wet. Again no one blames you for being a sex obsessed little boy that craves attention from any female he sees hell you’re only 21 years old so for you that’s normal…but if that’s who you are stop getting into relationships with females claiming you only want them when in reality that’s not true. Go become learn how to become a true Dom and than you can have all the subs, slaves, or baby girls you want and it would never be a problem…outs the fact that you get with one girl lie to her and still think it’s ok to flirt with every other female. So yea karma is a bitch and sometime you need to take ownership for your actions instead of blaming it all on her…this relationship is 50/50 both your guys fault and you need to own that and stop playing victim to all of your friends. Zack do us all a favor and grow the fuck up before getting into another relationship or stay single and fuck all the bitches you please…because people are watching and people know how you work so just own your shit and grow the fuck up.

  57. Much Yawn this week, No!

    But ok as far as #6: that is quite a list there. Some of them I know and not too surprised by others no clue who they are at all so don’t really care… but then there are a few who are on that list that made me raise an eyebrow as to why they made the cut. So, please explain to me what was the criteria to get on this list? Is there some sort of proof you can share or are they people you just happen to not like? Is part 2 gonna be having any guy (since you don’t seem to be targeting the ladies) with a short or femboy type avi or is it going to be a random Hunger Games tribute ceremony coming up?
    I’m not contesting any this; specially the Lefevre-Enimo accusation. I’m just curious because shorter avis have been accused of such things since the dawn of SL solely on the basis that that they prefer a more realistic height and not the 8-10 ft socially acceptable height requirement to be an “SL Adult”.

  58. #30 Freakshow Zsun is the biggest fucking liar I have ever met. He’s ugly as fuck. He cannot DJ. His pictures look like shit and he cheats with EVERY woman he can. Fucking loserville.

    • I typically do not say much about people. However, I can’t believe Neva hired him as a DJ. Since he’s become a DJ at Black Milk I no longer go there. He’s creepy. He makes me feel uneasy. I don’t like him.

      • It’s not Neva’s fault. She does not hire them. I think Bridget and Ines run the club for her? I’m not sure. I actually like Black Milk. But, I will say that I do not like this guy either. I think Bridget and Ines are disallusioned by this guy. I knew OF him before he started hanging around at Black Milk. The scene he was in, another club, began to completely fail with this guy around. Less women showed up to dance. I heard tales that he was hitting on them behind the scenes in his IM. Joe functions mainly within IMs and not in public chat. He feels safer that way, in my opinion. This guy is a problem. Sure, TONS of people may sometimes get so angry that they fly off the handle and just make a blanket threat, feel bad about it later and that behavior will stop. However, this guy has quite the history that these Black Milk people know nothing about.

      • Then Iā€™m not sure why Neva hired Bridget and Ines. They have terrible judgment of people and only like Freakshow cause itā€™s another Flickr guy to add to their list. That club has a lot of potential… too bad they are making such a bad name for it. They also send out alts to spy on people they donā€™t like out of their friend group that they want to ruin. They are the worst of the worst in sl, I stopped hanging with them long ago cause of the terrible things they would do and say about people

      • I like Black Milk, as a club its a good venue. Sure some of those people have a self inflated ego of themselves but same can be said of a lot of places. You can’t be responsible for your patrons

      • I spend time in some clubs ’cause I’m music addict. I don’t know this guy but I know he is Black Milk’s dj since years, so its seems wrong to say that he start to hanging around at Black Milk. Also he is Elysion’s dj. If really only this guy made some clubs failed, by the past, it would be cool that someone explain to me why Elysion and Black Milk are still up.
        In all clubs where I listen music, bad dj or dj who make drama was ejected quickly.
        Sometimes i went to Black Milk and never noticed that the two girls took themself so serious. They are more funny than some managers in some others SL-clubs.
        For me, a club that has had the same team for years and continues to work with the same DJs is a healthy team and therefore a healthy club that trusts in its DJs.
        No need more.

      • Freakshow has not been a black milk dj for years…. there is nothing funny about their managers except for the fact we all laugh at them for thinking they are the coolest thing in sl. It is apparent you don’t know what you’re talking about and don’t know this group enough to see the sick and unhealthy shit they do

      • I’m sorry I hang out in this club since 2 years and I remember he was already dj there. So, stop to be stupid just for be stupid. I know the dj manager, Nelscat, and she asked for he play at Black Milk. So, before spit venom, ask the right people. It’s the best way.

  60. Wth I have a fan apparently and a dumb one at that. I don’t know if this was meant to hurt my feelings or make me laugh but you accomplished neither. Take more time proofreading your “insults” and less time worrying about what I am doing. That’s all I have to say on this subject, If you need to say more you know where to reach me since you follow my every move šŸ˜‰

    • Tramp and you’re crying about all of these things spoke of you. Denny is your master and your his slave. Its not ok for your picture to be laughed at, but is ok for him to share your nasty nude videos to us? Your sick! I betcha he lied and said he knows of nothig. Or you both are going to deny it to look better. Denny do not act innocent. You showing us her stuff gave us an opinion. Remember you told me that you were going to try and be friends with her to “fuck the tarbaby” again. Ada so stupid!

      • Girl if there’s any grain of truth in what this person above is speaking. You’re beyond* saving face and need to walk away from that. Have some pride in your self., not this on and off ‘relationship”… I couldn’t handle that shit.

      • @DennysEXconfidante why are u up in their relationship? who cares about things she posts..or pic captions? BESIDES YOU? lol get a fucking life ur an EX for a reason. lol find a new dick to suck

      • Ex confidante can mean someone he confided in while he was on an Ada hate tour that was dropped as a friend when he sucked her back in. He or she mentioned that . I was going to keep hush but after seeing comments I felt blown considering Iā€™ve seen screenshots of too many things but you guys enjoy I hope things donā€™t get released

      • Seen screenshots of what? No you don’t know her cause if there was screenshots then she would be worried and this person would release them instead of talking out their ass anonymously. You all just love a juicy story that’s all. Keep it moving and don’t tell me who and what I know Judyfunk or whatever

      • I dont know her stupid fuck I know HIM! He’s an abusive bitch and she is worried. You all don’t see it but shes trying to figure out her life. Nobody likes you anymore Ada. You just better hope he doesn’t show your RL as he claimed he would do!

      • @DennysEXconfidante shut the fuck up. You are the only abusive person here with your dumb lies. You are a weak individual and should better work on yourself instead of trying to ruin others. Everyone can see that you try your hardest to seperate Ada and Denny but know what? They are still together ? I don’t think you will ever have the chance to get Denny back cause you seem very focused on him. Stay away and get your shit together cause noone believes you.

      • Wow you have serious anger issues and should seek therapy instead on here trashing someone you don’t even know. If you think she’s in a abusive relationship then why not tell her. Oh no you can’t cause you know it’s not true and rather come here and spew hate than be a man or woman and tell her to her face. You know you look silly right now. This is no one’s business but theirs.

      • @DennysEXconfidante this is 1 of them moments i heard a comment like this rl.. because i swear u would so swallow ur teeth… if he is abusive u think saying ‘nobody likes u ada’ is going to help her??? ur a piece of shit@ the nEXted one.. seriously… and anyone else who cares about how someone may feel in the world.. thats rotten as fuck.. hes abusive.. but ur mad at her??? apparently u dunno much about abuse and how it feels to be in that situation.. i usually wouldnt say this but maybe one day u will be and understand a little more.

      • i know what Ex confidante is.. i also know ex means not any more and thats for a reason…
        also @ the Exwhatever only someone really bitter would repost such harsh words weather said or not.. for u to come here and say them to her like to laugh in her face just means ur a total scumbag… i could never repeat ‘tar baby’ to someone im even mad at… that makes u such a fucking scumbag and him too if he said it… i know factually u said it because i just read it tho.. ur trash.. i hope none of its true.. but if it is guess what?!? its none of my business… ppl should be ashamed of themselves though repeating such hurtful words.. no class.. go get u some

    • Whoever this is commenting is someone who just crossed bad paths with Denny. I know Ada and I know this is not even remotely true at all. This is obviously just a person who has hatred. Tar baby? What does that even mean? Poor Ada I hope you get it sorted out or this person gets a life

      • find your own relationship and stop worrying about them.. @Judyfunk seriously… there are plenty of other things you could be doing.. like creating Leletuka skin and makeup for others… go learn a fucking skill.. besides flapping ur gums

  62. #23… It’s RichMOND survival camp… Richmond Survival Camp is awesome! Great fellowship… great friends to be made… and is a safe, happy environment.

  63. @33 – Wow, a copybotter who got—copybotted?! This knee is full of iron!! LOOOL

  64. Haha Belle des Champs and Ines Lauria are the biggest cunts and sluts of all sl! Black milk has become a known cesspool of shitty gossipers because of the two of them

    • Blackmilk has to be one of the most embarrassing places in SL, is always packed with the same absolute SL addicts that take themselves way too seriously in this game, and act like they are oh so cool. I am not sure how cool it is to spend every weekend activating dances on a computer game, but they sure seem to believe they have it going lol
      In that clique you can really find the biggest nobodies in rl.

      • this made my day ..lol ty for my easter giggles. @ I am not sure how cool it is to spend every weekend activating dances on a computer game

      • How do you know that it is always packed with the same SL addicts unless you’re in SL regularly enough that you can track their movement and time in SL?

      • Cause they see your stupid shit every week on Flickr trying to act like the super cool clique of sl, derp. Everyone laughs at you cause of how much of try hards you all are

    • I donā€™t get why people like their Flickr pics either, they are shit. I guess the only reason is cause they followed a ton of people to gain followers, fav everyoneā€™s pics for favs. Thatā€™s the only thing that makes sense there. Everytime I saw their shit I think, whyyyy? I stopped following them cause it was so awful. Also kudos to Toxx for getting rid of that cunt Ines. But ladies donā€™t even think about hanging out with him or taking pics, Ines stalks the fuck out of him and will work with her clique to try to destroy you

      • You’re such ugly people. Unbelievable. How can you even look in the mirror? Does this make you happy? Why don’t you care about your own business? Does it make you horny? I simply don’t get what is so funny about to bully someone you don’t even know, you don’t know a tiny bit! Ah yeah, I get it, it’s so easy to insult people here. It’s just SL… you shouldn’t forget that behind every avatar is a human. You know nothing, I know nothing about you, well I know now that you are a bitter person, who is just here to play, for what? You think this means anything? Do you think anything of this brings anything better in RL? Oh Lord, you people step way too far. The only thing you guys achieve is to hurt people, FOR REAL. Congrats you assholes. Now you can go on with getting access to any blogger group or whatever your small brain makes you happy. No… you guys are for a reason no winner. You proof that very well.

      • Is this Ines or Bridget?? Funny how you are quick to come on here and talk about how people don’t know you and behind every avatar is a human blah blah blah. You realize how many people your group talks about and tries to hurt that you do not know??? And yes I know you people and am not making this up. i stopped coming to your shit cause of the things I saw your group do to people that YOU DO NOT KNOW. Think about that a moment or continuing denying it like your group always does. You are shit people and that’s the truth no matter how much you want to deny that.

      • Iā€™m not surprised that Bridget, Ines and freakshow were on the list this week. Donā€™t play the victim when itā€™s obvious you were all involved in insulting people you donā€™t like for some ego reasons or people you donā€™t even know on the previous week secret. When I saw people defending freakshow … saying girls come to him to flirt and not the opposite is a very very very big joke. The only person that has the (strange) luck to not be named in all the previous week story where thyme was insulted is the very manipulative and ego girl shockersz.
        So today donā€™t cry like victims once youā€™ve been the executionner.

      • Lol…..all this…….is just…..pure…..nasty…….to me…I say this because I know some of who are involved and yes im sure of course there’s gossip. I mean…who doesn’t gossip??? Damn!! ITS HARMFUL TO OTHERS ill never come back here. I only came here because someone linked me here to see the supposed “trio” clique thats being talked about…..well im sorry i read it. And im sorry to anyone who has had shit written about them whether its true or not…..grow some balls and tp ur ass to your “friend” and talk like normal people do……this is SECOND LIFE…..and exactly why I keep to myself

      • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA THIS!
        ‘GROW SOME BALLS and Tp to a friend and talk like NORMAL people do’
        Omg, i am dying. How long its been since the last time youve left your house?
        You people from Black Milk with your fucked up english and your sl/flickr addiction really are the funniest most bizarre clique in SL.

    • he says he have Autism , I bet thats false too
      He just complain too much and too negative

  65. #13 .. how about u sit the fuck down and shut up.. u apprently have nothing better to do then to bash my sister and post shit so we can all tell it was u she was talking about … get a life and grow up you won’t ever be half the person sabra is.. ever.

    • I think neither you realize the fact that not everyone is blessed to have a busy life or a job and they are home, have time to sit on computer all day, you cannot know their reasons. Bashing people like that on some fucking Facebook is just childish and shows what a fucking moron you can be. ^5 to this post though

      • More like people should get off their lazy asses and get a damn job. The job market is hopping as fuck! And if the fucking shoe fits wear it! Obviously it offends you because that shoe fits just perfectly on you!

    • I probably have more of a busy life then your crappy sister and Im not putting people down with thinking I’m the only one who has a busy life. Grow up girls and think what you post or you land on SL secrets. Guess you didn’t think so here you are …

  66. #10 who believes he is who he says he is must be a stupid retarded person. It’s too obvious he is not the guy from the pictures, and he deletes comments from people who says his pictures are old lol. I’m still waiting for the “live” video he promised on a facebook post but after 2 min deleted it.

    • Haha! He deleted me off his friends list because I kept leaving his group. He claimed the other day that he was going to start watermarking his photos because people keep stealing them and making other accounts with them.

    • You got proof he’s catfishing? I removed him on FB ’cause he was super suspect but I wanna confirm my suspiciouns.

      • Question is do you have proof he isn’t. Assuming he isn’t a she… seen this time and time again. And truthfully why doesn’t he put up a little video? He post enough selfies of “himself” a little facebook live wouldn’t kill him. And the whole I only cam with those I trust? Then why put yourself out there, your “family” out there. Just a month or so ago I noticed him posting the Osborne photos on flickr. No one batted a eye… now after continuously throwing out thirst on fb (along with old ass repost of “family”).. the cattle come running. I’ll wait…

      • Yeah the proof is there is Luca Osbourne profile on Instagram and Tweeter. That one is more believable then this one. And common the pictures are not consistent at all.

    • I been knew he was a catfish. Them old ass Osbourne photos. Like, okay, you met them, cool. And none of his pics are consistent. Some, his hair is lighter, some darker. Hair donā€™t change that dramatically every photo.
      Heā€™s just fooling all these thirsty ass bitches on SL and they stupid, falling for it. LoL yā€™all act like youā€™ve never seen a decent looking dude before. ?

    • It wouldn’t surprise me if he submitted this himself in order to get attention. Soon to follow another selfie… lol

    • does anyone watch catfish???? all you have to do is gyazo the pic and drop it in google image search.. booooyah

    • I knew knew knew he’d make sl secrets this week! You should check out twitter too. Freaking hilarious how many accounts this dude has. Oh he also has a friend called kaiden who’s also 26 and also is autistic and freakishly is also a DJ. LMAO I will continue to laugh at the stupid bitches falling for this guys BS. ???

      • #10
        He added me on FB and I accepted because a lot of my friends were his friends. Reading his posts screamed BS. The indicator that he is full of shit is how hard he tries to convince people ge is who he says he is and how he constantly says he is related to Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne. Nothing he says adds up. Hell…the pictures he posts do not add up. The day before he was supposedly going back to England his facial hair is light, thinned and trimmed, but that evening he took a pic cast in the dark and the facial hair isn’t the same. Also, it is interesting how he was back in England but the pic he posted shows him in a car and the vehicle in the background is clearly driving on the right hand side and not the left as they do in England. The pictures do not add up nor do the things this guy says. If people are so hard up to believe him then more power to them. This is truly some funny ass shit.

    • Well no new selfies… I’m assuming he’s staying low-key for a moment. lol since attentions on him.

    • Kaiden Tray removed Osbourne from his FB name…coincidence? I think not. LOL! What a dumbass. Dude if your are going to catfish try not making the shit so obvios. For those thirsty bitches that believe him, you are some seriously stupid women.

      • Is it just the nerdy gamer in me or do anyone else think of Mass Effect when the name Kaiden showed up?

  67. Xyon… I knew there was something weird, gladly I didn’t fall for it.

  68. Get real. Many of the people who play SL associate themselves with their SL name. Why do you think so many people (even myself) post anonymously here? Because they don’t want the backlash. Why would anyone want their name mixed up in this shit?

  69. It is against the SL TOS to be a child avatar and partake in age play. It does not matter if the person controlling the kid avatar is an adult in rl, the point is the actual act of being a child avatar and partaking in age play is a violation of the TOS and a banneable offense.

  70. At least one person on that list is listed by their facebook name, not their SL name. So whomever made this secret did not pull all the names from secondlife but went through facebook and picked people.

  71. I will add my paltry opinion to this conversation as it pertains to the entire context of what your work entails. M’Dear, I have said before, that in your occupation (far be it for me to determine what one might call it by name) you have a line from which to cross that places not only those in question in harms way but you as well from a legal standpoint. I have no proverbial “horse in the game” but I shall say this; that you clearly must know that you are treading dangerously in waters that even you have no clue. I think you are smart. I also think you are quite versed in the complexities of the law that comprise these agendas. Perhaps you are even in the law/legal field, who knows. Regardless of this, whilst sipping tea are you oblivious to a sense of decency in that actual lives are at stake. Yes, real lives. Second Life has changed greatly over the years in that now many do share their identity willingly and with pride. Despite your warnings and risk aversion lectures I know a number of people that feel no issue with extending a loving hand to those in an open manner of trust. It may be naive – it may not. Who are we to judge? But for you to preach that “it’s their fault for sharing” is even more naive. Even if foolish, often it’s not, everyone is entitled to make a mistake in revealing themselves. And it only takes one person to know the real life details of another to do harm. More so, everyone is entitled to a worthy justice for which SL Secrets I must sadly say is not a court of law. My point is this, to allow someone to call another a ā€œnarcissistā€ or a ā€œwhoreā€ is perhaps acceptable in that, well, it is their opinion. However, to allow the placement of a list of names that target random people as pedophiles or some other disgusting breach of the law is attaching a scarlet letter to an innocent who might actually have real life information exposed to others. There will come a time, maybe even it’s happening now, where you will allow such accusations like this to appear here and an innocent person will be in trauma and will have enough money to bring to you a counter challenge in which your own identity and background are exposed for all to see. These are tender fields you tread. I wish you godspeed in your pursuits. But do remember that no one is hidden. No one is lifeless. Not you. Not me.

  72. The point I am making is the people are trying to bring RL implications into this. That is fine if you don’t want your virtual rep ruined by these types of accusations. It’s like trying to get someone arrested for rape or assult that occured in SL.

  73. thats because a lot of weirdos think sl is a social media site…. this proves its a game but they still want to fight over it.. yes u can meet friends and whatever….. u can do the same on the sims.. crazy people have to make everysite that has chat available a dating site.. its not tinder or any of those sites… because if it were (to the crazies who find love everywhere).. u wouldnt be portrayed by a perfect avatar… you’d be playing yourself with a picture of yourself.. thinking you will find love when the image ppl see when you speak to them is ass backwards if its not ur real mug. sl is a game… this site is for fun… learn how to play games and have fun xD

  74. @Someoneinsl It may be a bannable offense but it’s one that has to be proven and well, just claiming someone is doing this means nothing when there is no proof to back it up! Also, quite often the “child avi” in these claims isn’t a child avi at all but is actually just a short avi because heaven forbid they aren’t 10 ft tall. Maybe you need some tea? I have some peach-pear fusion tea right now it’s quite refreshing šŸ™‚

  75. @ Someoneinsl But you just said several times over several posts, you would ban kids because of the chosen few who do that, to therefore you are blanket banning and accusing people of something regardless of doing it. As i said to you before over and over, there are serious implications on your train of thought which is not only questionable, its moronic. There is things going on in the world like racial hatred that are not even bannable in SL, which cause more emotional hurt than anything else you have rattled on about . So you saying we should also have a ban for anyone thats asian, black etc. So what, we also ban people before they turn to an ethnicity other people don’t like?

    IMO anyone that’s against any person who derides what they play in SL would find issue in other things, not just the one thing. So to me , I find you not only disgusting, I also find your logic questionable who would turn at anyone in Sl for anything you regard as horrible personally. That goes for kid avvies or otherwise and that is a toxic train of thought and not one that people need in SL. I would also ban you openly .

  76. 5.3 We may terminate your Account(s) to protect the best interests of the Service and the community or if we believe you pose an unacceptable risk to the community. – We may terminate your Account(s) if we learn, or in good faith believe, that you are a registered sex offender, that accessing the Service may violate a condition of parole or probation, that you have engaged in or attempted to engage in conduct with minors on the Service that violates this Agreement, or that you for any other reason may pose what we deem to be an unacceptable risk to the Service community.

    I would dearly love to know whereabouts in the TOS that being a child avatar and partaking in age play is a violation of the TOS, because if so why hasn’t Linden Labs removed said kid avatars?

  77. a name on a list doesnt prove age play…which is the point…its a gossip site.. google what gossip is.. until theres a pic of the naughtiness happening…. its called heresay

  78. I am waiting for Someoneinsl to tell me her name, so I can meet her in Sl on some random G rated sim to report her for indecent exposure, when her clothes don’t rez and her tits are in my face . Cause you know… dem rules and all LOL . šŸ˜€

  79. Check here: https://www.lindenlab.com/legal/second-life-terms-and-conditions

    Now scroll down to this section: 4. CONDUCT BY USERS OF SECOND LIFE

    Now see this paragraph:
    (vii) If you are an adult, impersonate a minor for the purpose of interacting with a minor using Second Life, or stalk, harass, or engage in any sexual, suggestive, lewd, lascivious, or otherwise inappropriate conduct with minors on Second Life, or attempt to contact or meet with such minor outside Second Life, including without limitation electronically or physically, if you have reason to know or Second Life concludes that you should have known you were interacting with a minor on Second Life, or otherwise engage in any conduct that violates our Teen Safety Guidelines;

    (viii) Post, display or transmit any material, object or text that encourages, represents, or facilitates sexual “age play,” i.e., using child-like avatars in a sexualized manner. This activity is grounds for immediate termination. You may review our full Age Play Policy here. You understand and agree that we may report any and all such incidents — and any and all of your corresponding personal information — to any authorities we deem appropriate, whether or not it in and of itself violates the law of your (or any) jurisdiction; or

  80. Keyword here being -sexual- age play.
    It just seem like a lot of people can’t deal with the fact that some adults just want to role play a baby/toddler/teen/etc. for entirely non-sexual reasons and just blanket judges all non-adult avatars as sexual roleplayers which is so incredibly silly it boggles the mind. Not everything in SL is sex.

    TL;DR – Playing a kid isn’t against the TOS, engaging is sexual relations as/with one is.

  81. Someoneinsl , you also missed a lot of valuable statements such as …

    Child avatars are allowed within Second Life.[1] A child avatar, even within a mature or adult region (but not participating in adult (in this case, sexual) ) activities is allowed. A child avatar is allowed do everything any other avatar is, with the following exceptions:

    Note that child avatars are allowed on PG, Mature, and even Adult public parcels, provided with the latter that they are adult verified. Note that this does not necessarily apply to private parcels where one has the option to eject or ban as desired. The allowance of child avatars on adult rated land such as Zindra does not invalidate any of the above rules.

    Now…. how many people break this rule everyday when people are being assholes and throwing kids off adult rated lands where Madpea hunts and other clearly regulated PG and moderate activity goes on? How many adults are breaking the rules not adhering to this?
    Yes this point ” Note that this does not necessarily apply to private parcels where one has the option to eject or ban as desired.” is the one that’s regularly misused because the land owner pays the bill. Now… thats ok because the person who wishes their own rules is granted but does not detract from them being a complete prat when they do , throwing off people because of short termed opinions

    Your arguments all point to sex and nothing about the whole approach to kid avvies, it is literally a train with one one stop and you don’t even stop at that >.<

  82. Really Someone? Both of those are rules about S E X U A L situations involving minors or the depiction of minors.

    SEXUAL.

    Roleplaying a child avatar isn’t a sexual act the same as having a dog avatar doesn’t mean you’re into bestiality. I really think *you* need therapy.

  85. Marcus’ name as listed is his RL name, not his SL name. he uses that name on FB but not in SL. The FB profile is full of SL content though, so anyone could make the connection.

  86. But it does strongly suggest that the person who made this is just going through facebook and pulling names out their ass. Wait for part 2, I bet it will contain the names of people who happened to be friends with those in part 1 on facebook.

  87. 1. Kess and I do this as a hobby for entertainment. And to provide entertainment to others.
    2. Our RL identifies are not a secret. Do you think we would do this and be defenseless if someone comes after us IRL over this site?
    3. We’ve been doing this for almost 10 years. Do you really think we don’t know how far to let things go? Do you really think we aren’t protecting ourselves legally? Do you really think we are doing this completely ignorant?
    4. Once again we run into the problem of RL vs SL and knowing the difference. Think about this. So for #6 the author of the secret or one of you so indignant about it, decides to go to law enforcement with their list of avatar names. They report that in a virtual world some adult avatars are engaging in pedophilia and/or age play role-play with a child avatar that is an adult IRL. Feel free to go test that out. Let us know how that goes.

    As someone elsewhere has stated age play is a bannable offense in SL. Yet LL allows age players to run wild and have sims and venues all over the grid. Do you think LL is ignorant of where they stand legally also?

    I think the only one being naive here is you. In daily life and practice the line between RL and SL is blurred sometimes. When it comes to the law it’s very well defined. For you it appears it doesn’t extend as far as you like. But posting here with warnings won’t change that. Try writing to your congress person or local law makers if you truly want to see things go how you wish they would. I wish you luck.

  88. Ms. Denimore, You have my utmost respect as indirectly stated in my original comment. You have well displayed your knowledge of the law and your particular purpose with this site over the years. I would never argue that you mostly position yourself on that line admirably. Quite, I think that most take it for that what you say, baseless entertainment that is tabloid at best. As you fully know though the American legal system, bless it, is one that is not so much based on justice as about “who has the most money.” I am sure you have proper representation and if you press them for your vulnerabilities with this website no legal professional worth a grain of salt will tell you that you are completely without risk. It just takes one. One person with a healthy coffer who was grossly affected in real life due to an accusation of something as destructive as pedophilia or any sort of abuse. This is not about win or lose. The system is about who can create more legal difficulties for you over time and tug at your own coffers with thousands of hours of legal fees accrued in a discovery process. You might be protected. You might not depending on how the wind blows. But you certainly will be spending a great deal of money to defend against a plaintiff of means. Or paying something in a settlement to avoid said costs. I am of belief where you are indeed protected is by allowing people to post their “personal opinions” of another here. But there is a hazy liability if you carry out the act of approving someone (as posts must be administered by you unlike comments) to post accusations of an illegal nature that could, in theory, trickle into real life and create monetary or other damages. I imagine if you spend $300 to speak to your legal advisor today and showed them the post, along with your own comments in which you question yourself (“Let me know if I am wrong, guys”) he would say this, “You might be fine but Is it really worth it to your venture to have this sort of risk?” It is of my very very humble opinion that if one of those names is associated to a person who is innocent and damaged in real life that the risk far outweighs the reward. What your reward is though I have no clue. And while yes, indeed, the accusations relate to Second Life and as such may not hold up as damaging in “real life,” they also just might. What is for sure is that it will be very expensive and time consuming for you to reach that conclusion. Many in business far longer than you have found this out the hard way.

  89. Actually I asked an investigator in law enforcement this exact question: in a virtual world some adult avatars are engaging in pedophilia and/or age play role-play with a child avatar that is an adult in real life. You know what they did? Laughed. Second, there has to be an actual victim. So they aren’t even making child pornography. Keep in mind I asked a bunch of off shoots of this very question and there’s more details, I’m just spinning the highlights reel.
    Blimey, please stop with your m’lady shit. Seriously, stop. It gives me a headache. Otherwise, your comments, albeit tl;dr, are well written.

  90. I am sure there are many who share your dreams of this site being taken down. Kess and I being destroyed financially and living as paupers. From your point of view it sounds truly glorious. So I’ll let you continue with your mental masturbation.

    Meanwhile in the real world…

    #6 stays unless it is determined it breaks a law in the real world.

  91. they hardly have anything to worry about. A defamation suit without proof of harm/damage or proof of a false statement will be hard to prove, and would be thrown out of court, especially since those names are (what I assume) are sl names, and not actual RL names.

  92. Seriously people, no REAL LIFE NAMES were used. Only SL personas. You can love or hate SL Secrets, but the site owners are not the ones to blame for the perverted bs that occurs in SL and is reported on here. They simply are providing an outlet for people to post things. If a person uses their SL name on FB and ties it to RL information then that is their fault for leading people to figure out who they are in RL. It is not the fault of SL secrets.

  93. On the contrary, M’lady. I have no horse in the race. No care in the world. I enjoy like most coming here for the stuttering hilarity of baseless opinions and a dash of stripper drama. You asked above in the original post for thoughts. There now, you have mine. As I said, if this work brings you pleasure than godspeed. Now, about breaking the law? This has nothing to do with breaking the law. Your local Tesco did not necessarily “break a law” when a person fell in the store on grapes. Breaking the law and a perception of negligence are two different things entirely. Follow the money. Laws are a business for which money shall mostly determine the outcome in the form of a nice tasty settlement.

  94. oooh she getting mad now, calm down beauty qween. you can tell sheā€™s just mad that everyone knows sheā€™s the bullshit op

  95. Allow me to Ollie those last few paragraphs for you….”Dayum… you gonna get sued for deformation bish!”……”Na…. not even”…. the end.

  97. Itā€™s called SL secrets, not Facebook secrets. There is no SL-Facebook, just people who create accounts that tie in with SL. If the OP uses names from FB accounts how do they know itā€™s not a real life name? I think thatā€™s pretty risky in itself. This list is shitty, but veers from technicically being an ā€œSL-based postā€ when Facebook names are being used.

  98. Why good day Blimey, I to enjoy virtual-secrets for much of the same reason, specially the comments. Yours have been quite exhilarating thus far. But may I introduce you to the “Paragraph”? It is a wonderful thing and you should definitely trade in your”Wall’oText” for; Yes?

    You have a lot of interesting points that bring a great light upon the matter at hand. But, much to my dismay, they are rather hard to decipher without reading glasses and going over them at least twice due the lack in familiarity with the “Paragraph” who I might add is a good chap and also graces everything from legal paperwork to children’s books.

    What you have said and what you have yet to speak upon is important and I wouldn’t want anyone to miss such enlightened words due to the glassing over of eyes as a side effect of “Wall’oText”. So, please take a moment to get to know “Paragraph” maybe over some tea and crumpets. šŸ˜€

  99. I actually said the same thing, to someone on FB. That there needs to be an actual victim, that a lot of these RL laws cannot cross into SL. If it pertains to an avatar.

  100. If it pertains to a child avatar that is puppeted by an actual underage person then it can be considered child pornography. Clarifying that.

  101. The problem with number 6 is that there is supposed “proof” but no proof is provided. I suspect that there is a bit of score settling going on with that, and that is not right.

  102. I agree with Theodoric. I kind of hope though that if there is a list next week or thereafter, that is as salty and un-corroborated as the first one, that it does not make the post list. I love gossip as much as anyone but I think if there is a post to be made, you do it with the info that bugs you on the person/ people. Some people abuse SL Secrets, lets be honest. That post along with others was a clear case of score settling, that’s not what this site is or should be about.

  103. At the very least we’re being honest. You all can be conned out of $5k for some dumb bitch’s driving lessons. So it should be possible to raise an honest $20k to make something so vile and disgusting go away.

    But as Kess said we all know you don’t really want us gone.

  104. If somebody did try to raise that money i’m quite sure a counter offer would be done to keep virtual-secrets up & running with much better luck because virtual-secrets is too damn funny and we need our Sunday guilty pleasure

  105. I dont know why people complain aobut this site being here, free country right? (wherever you are). If they dont like the site, then they don’t have to read it. They could be adult about the whole situation but most are not. Do I agree with everything on here? No. I dont get into the relationship drama stuff, because it’s very high school. But I”m not going to tell you to take it down, it’s your site not mine and if I didnt like it I would just stop reading. People are ridiculous.

  106. Well, I will confess to being rather obsessed with this little weekly guilty pleasure. I find human nature fascinating, and more than once I’ve been immensely amused by some of what gets said here. I don’t much care about the relationship issues, either, because it’s really none of my business who is sleeping with whom and why, and as RespectYourCustomers said, it’s all very high-school; and the weekly accusations of pedophilia make me wonder just what is wrong with these people that they’re seeing pedos everywhere. I mean really… if you don’t like child avis and you think this stuff is going on everywhere, why are YOU there to see it? Makes one wonder.

    Overall, though, I find this site amusing, and I especially get a good laugh when people downvote rational, well-stated comments. I would miss it if it ever disappeared.

  107. Doesn’t matter if this site is bought out to be closed. A new one with different founders will just be made. People can’t help being nasty behind anonymity. If you are too butthurt over the contents of SL secrets, then joke’s on you.

  109. My nephew was telling me about this and the people behind it, was quite interesting to hear his take on it . From what was mooted, was a few on that list blame SL secrets for posting it in the first place and want SL secrets down because of it, that the whole thing was a set up against last weeks rumble in regard to the racist accusation in the pageant issues. In some ways, I do feel maybe in hindsight, that should never have been posted as it was very salty and deliberately posted a few times in relation to the same people/group. That and no real reasons on why the poster was upset. I am not saying anyone should do anything, but I do feel the poster should come back and explain why they posted what they did . At least it would allow him/ her the opportunity to explain themselves and why they wrote about Number 6. If of course these are said people who wanted SL secrets down.

    I like SL secrets, I seen some bad things here but also some good come out of it for various people. As long as whats being said is not true and not a fabrication made by SL secret owners as is suggested .

  110. We have no idea who those people are. Both Lourdes and I are what would be considered oldbies now, but by our standards we are not even near oldbies. We don’t have to make up stuff – the public makes it. The rules haven’t changed since 2012 or so when I was starting up this domain and I did a poll asking for the rules. The rules stated : anything goes as long as it’s SL related. If you believe every secret that is ever submitted you have mental problems. The ones starring in these secrets need to concern themselves with their “friends”

  111. Its not an issue of just being old. I’ve never liked SL facebook. SL facebook is super ghetto its like being in a run down housing project compared to Plurk. Half the chicks over there are wiggas and they talk so ghetto even I can’t understand them. I just can’t get down with that segment.

    But I do want to say I appreciate the love that SL Facebook has given us. Thank you.

  112. True. I don’t even keep SL accounts on my FB. (rarely I still have a few from back when) SL FB is a different world. Makes plurk look like Disneyland.

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