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virtual-secrets: Week 493

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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.

Welcome to virtual-secrets, week 493.

A couple of things before the secrets this week.

  • If you use the contact form and want a reply, please use a valid email address so we can contact you.
  • If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement. We always cooperate with law enforcement when it comes to RL issues.
  • Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them. The only way to possibly found out, see above.
  • Make your secrets legible.
  • Learn how to apply drop shadows to text so it can be read.
  • Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We know your legal rights and we also know our legal rights. We’ve been doing this for 9 years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
  • Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.

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  1. Hi fuck faces.

    I was away on vacation without my pc, laptop, or even decent wifi so if you all wanna pretend I posted dumb shit about avery you should probably decide to do it when I’m actually around.

    I don’t care which one of you posted it, even if it was avery herself trying to get you guys to defend her honor, but it’s fucking hilarious.

    I haven’t posted anything publicly in eons, no one gives a shit but maybe you should ask her about that time she made verinneansar.resident and used it to grief sims.

    If you can’t get over the fact I’m not gonna delete my blog post, not my problem.

  2. Wow get ready for round 2 – Rose needs money to take her dog to the vet

    • Are you serious? I really feel like reporting her scams to LL. She is nothing but a con artist.

      • No? lol Rose isn’t asking for money to help her dog??? Why don’t you cowards find out the actual truth before you act like you know what you’re talking about. This is kind of hilarious at this point. I’m curious, “OneNameOnly”, do you know Rose? Have you ever spoken to her? Or are you and everyone else just going off on things you have seen? Pretty sad if you ask me.

        I can’t wait to see all of the thumbs down I’ll be receiving 😉

  3. 12. Ughhh, backdrop drama is so boring now. Bring us new stuff.

    13. Loseria should be a pay to enter by group or have payment info on file.. would keep most of this garbage out.

    21. I can’t tell the difference between Candydoll stuff anymore. Just same shit, different day.

    24. Lol it’s just a group of fat girls (there’s like one that’s in shape but their faces and teeth are busted) and fuckboys who never had friends outside of a computer.

    • Was posted on here when all the drama started but not to stir up more shit *cackling but anyone can post obits and claim it is theirs just saying but who would do that hmmm

    • Holy fucking shit, are you guys serious? So you think Rose LIED about her mother dying? I won’t say you guys should be ashamed of yourselves, because all I’ll get back is, “blahblahblah” and you’ll probably say something rude thinking you’re above everything and everyone. But I would love to see anyone on this site saying horrible things to actually say it with their true named attached. You won’t though, because you’re all useless human beings. **This is where you turn it around on me and say that I’m the useless human being, or you’ll call me names or something stupid and ignorant. I mean, it’s just how people like you work.**

      Rose doesn’t owe any of you a thing. Do I think she should be plurking up a storm and posting things that she has purchased left and right? No, I don’t. I think she needs to lay low for a bit, but I’m also not going to tell her what she should do. This thread has nearly 300 comments and it’s all cowardly assholes picking someone apart when you don’t even have the slightness clue about a thing. You don’t know Rose, you don’t know what she goes through. You may see her plurk this and that, but that does not mean you fucking know her or anything about her life or family.

      The ones saying horrible and cruel things here are the pathetic ones. You come to this cyber-bullying site just to make yourselves feel better. I guarantee most of you are miserable in your own lives so might as well make someone else feel like shit as well, right? Grow up. You are the ones that need to log off Second Life and re-evaluate your entire sad lives.

      • Yeahhh uhhm it looks like I’m getting mixed up with rose, the obituary that was posted was mine. But I completely agree with you, the people who post on here really need to re think their actions, they don’t know what’s going on in that said persons life.. purposely dragging someone down in here to make yourself feel better, isn’t cool.

      • Given the general shadiness surrounding this whole deal, it’s a natural question to ask.

        I, for one, believe that her mother did pass – and I wouldn’t ask for an obituary, because either way I’d not be supporting. Call me callous, but it’s not my responsibility to bail someone on the internet out of financial hardship.

        I think you’re missing the point, and ironically enough in your “explosive” response accuse those on this site of doing the same shit you’re doing.

        If you have to turn to the internet twice in 3 and a half years for financial support, you’re not taking responsibility of your own circumstances. That’s my issue. As I’ve reiterated several times, I feel for her and the death of a parent – that’s not easy. But to crowdfund support is… Incredibly shady. Particularly as it’s clear her purchases are flowing freely since the passing.

        Also, I take umbrage with “that’s just how people like you work” – you claim that we’ll turn around and call you useless, and call you names. In the same breath, you state “the ones saying horrible and cruel things here are the pathetic ones” and call us “cowardly assholes.”

        – I come to virtual-secrets to discuss someone who is clearly not financially stable and is turning to strangers for help.
        – This is something I will never do.

        On the OTHER hand!:

        – YOU come to virtual-secrets to stand up for this person, and accuse those commenting of being rude, ignorant and horrible to others.
        – YOU then literally do this in the same comment.

        I’m not going to sit here and call you dumb names. But I will tell you this – you are despairingly hypocritical and I hope you recognize the irony of what you’ve sprayed on us all.

  5. 28) This is my first time posting on virtual-secrets, I love gossip, but rarely get involved beyond close friends. Coming from someone who had someone stalk me so much that they A) Copybotted my entire avatar, B) Made an account with a name as close to my Resident name as possible, C) Had a shrine dedicated to me in SL, D) Claimed to have been the person behind my artwork, E)Told people they were my alt… And I got past THAT shit and stopped posting about it ages ago, even though the person still uses my avatar, still contacts me, still tries to get my attention???? This Verinne and Avery shit is /old/as/fuck/. It’s not that serious. Even if she was trying to copy Verinne’s avatar, it’s fucking pixels man. She bought her items the same as Verinne, so what if she is inspired by her look?

    Copybotting her shape years ago was wrong… but why are there so many people still crying about it years later? There has to come a point that people stop caring. Even if Verinne is stalking Avery, or Avery is stalking Verinne. It’s secondlife. Block each other and move on. Block their new alts too. If you don’t want any contact with them, ask your friends not to talk to you about them. If they’re good friends, they’ll respect your wishes. If they don’t, move on from them too. If you feel the urge to dredge up the Avery/Verinne drama again just stop, count to 10, order yourself some pizza, listen to some music, and chill the fuck out.

    Also, just a PSA for everyone reading; If you don’t want it to be easy for everyone to look like you, stop being a wide-hipped, pale skinned, pixie faced animu in SL. It’s a cute look, but everyone does it. I’ve done it, your aunt has done it, your boyfriend has done it on his secret female alt that he doesn’t want you to know about because he’s afraid you’ll call him a cuck. Let’s get real here.

    • p.r.e.a.c.h.

      They’re just two people who share the same general aesthetic. I have said it about 800 times so far, but they don’t even look alike anymore aside from white hair. People are gonna pull a muscle reaching this hard to try and dig up old shit to cause problems.

  6. Christmas came early this year! A secret roasting my ex friend’s store and a secret roasting her friend! If the blogger chick turned out to be this hoe I knew then it would be the trifecta. This other corpse-y looking albino chick who is RL married and lies about it and keeps talking to dudes who want to slex her because she gets gifts from them. My ex-friend who was her friend before the blogger upgraded to “sl famous” people even told her to take a RL pic off her SL profile and dudes would stop hitting on her and put she’s married irl. Well, she did that for a day then turned it back to her rl pic and no mention of marriage. Btw her RL husband is 100% not cool with her slexing or anything. She even met her “gay” best friend irl off SL and apparently slept with him while her hubby thought she was just on vacation. She’s also friends with the owner of a popular “kawaii” store so it’s not surprisingly also a whiny little turd.

    Also, seriously on the Olive thing like how dumb can some of you be defending her! The time line don’t look good because it ain’t good! I’ve been catfished before and if things don’t make sense then it’s BS. I used to make excuses for why things didn’t add up for the catfisher and used to defend some of their behavior. So I get it, she’s your friend but also it’s pretty shit to say your mom died (which honestly I think everyone is lying in sl until I see proof) and your house was foreclosing then each time it was followed up by luxury purchases. Idgaf if she saved a year for her mac book pro or w/e she spent 1.4k on comp wise if your mom dies or is dying you hold off on that purchase and pay for her funeral THEN save up again to get a computer.

    Also defending her stress shopping, girlllll, so if your friend asked for $200 to take their dog to the vet and then you seen on FB they went to dinner and a movie that night with your $$$ would you be OK with that?

    Regardless of who started asking for money, rose herself, her dad or her friends they still asked and that opens you up to criticism. I got criticized for having a patreon once and TBH they were right and I took it down. Moral of the story, you ask someone for free money = they get to criticize you and your spending. Don’t want criticism for how you spend your money? 1. Don’t brag about what you buy 2. don’t ask for hand outs. 3. don’t complain about how poor you are but spend tons of money in sl and rl.

    • What the entire fuck does her body composition have to do with anything?

    • @Blaise – you should be thankful that this scam is coming to light so you can save your hard earned escorting coins ???

  8. I had no idea about all the stuff rose did in the past, wow. I think if more people knew, things would have gone very differently this time around. If you’re asking for funds for a *specific* purpose, it’s not fair to everyone who’s helping you, to spend those funds on things outside of that purpose that aren’t absolutely essential.

    Everyone who participated in this event, took time out of their own schedule to make something for this event. Time that they could have spent on their own stores. Many of these designers can’t afford to donate actual money, but chose to spend their time and energy on this event (to their own financial peril), under the impression that the proceeds would be used, to cover funeral-related expenses, not miscellaneous shopping, or theme park trips, or new PCs.

    If I had unexpected expenses that I couldn’t afford, I wouldn’t dare waste a DIME of whatever money I managed to get my hands on.

    I feel like a whole bunch of really amazing designers just got fucked over. And that pisses me off, because every time opportunistic assholes like this take advantage of genuinely good people this way, it makes those people more and more jaded to the point that they stop helping people all together.

    • Don’t pay attention to the posts in this website. It’s just nonsense from people who love Drama.

    • @GetALife this is well said, I think that what I mentioned here before was basically kind of protecting designers who had good intentions ? Not Rose itself, because I joined fundraiser to help her family, not specifically her if you understand.

      I’m just bummed what has been said here about designers work in general like we are some nasty griefers, I’m no way thinking that I’m a special snowflake, but I think we should have respect for each other. I’m pretty sad about Rose’s attitude on Plurk in this case, there is no way I’ll be doing fundraisers in Second life ever.

  9. you guys need to calm down. She’s looking to buy a $30 bag, not a $12k Hermes bag.

    Shopping therapy is a thing, and if it helps to alleviate her pain and helps her forget about her situation, so be it.

    I went and bought a bunch of stuff at the Rose event because I know how much it sucks to lose a parent, like many of us here. The 1.5k $L i spent, which amounts to what, $7, is way less than I would spend even at McD’s, but if it makes helps, than it’s worth that much more.

    • I think you are missing the point that the designers that participated were only doing so under the pretenses that this money would go towards funeral expenses not shopping therapy. Do you think people would have helped out if they knew she’d be spending money like that? I would hold on to my every dollar in her situation. That’s just messed up.

  10. Regarding the Rose event. To the people who pretends to care so much for Rose:. You are what is called an enabler. As Rose has not gotten her life together, from her last family crisis a few years ago, she is for the second time relying on SL residents to sort her financial problems out.
    The enablers ( basically everyone who supports this event ) does not want the best for Rose, they have created a monster. A monster That will only learn that whenever life deals her a bad hand, she can rant about it on SL and 1.2 3 an event pops up AGAIN and her financial problem is covered again. This is a sick set up.

    Unfortunately Rose and her enabling army must live in SL cuckoo land and not so much in the real world. And sadly because of this Rose will never get her life turned around.

    More on her first financial SL cash cow https://virtual-secrets.com/virtual-secrets/slsecret-week-309/

    • I finally looked at the old Sl Secrets posts about her other fundraising scams. In the foreclosure one it mentions Rose is a High School dropout with no GED? What kind of responsible family allows this!! It has nothing to do with money now, that is sheer laziness. Rose needs to wake up and know that one day SL will not be around. With no GED what is she going to do with her life?? Instead of sitting at home desiging hairpieces for cartoon dolls, how about being responsible and taking an online course to get your GED and then make something out of yourself!

  11. #8 Well known stuck up bitch of a manager, and has awful taste in men, abusive player types, all of them.

  12. I will be shot for this but I can respect Avery now after all of this.

    I’ve read through the comments on Considerably Ordinary’s page and I’m appalled by Verinne’s behavior. I’ve had people who were directly involved speak to me and bring light to the fact some of the updates on Verinne’s blog were falsified. Originally I supported her because two years ago she was an extremely victimized person along with Considerably, it was disgusting what happened and severely fucked up.

    That was two years ago.

    The behavior I witnessed being a mutual friend between them both, by friend I mean they were on my list, out of which Avery spoke to me more then Verinne ever did. I didn’t care what happened between them but what gave Avery a chance was I asked her about what happened. She didn’t hide anything. She didn’t say that it was all Verinne’s fault or that she wasn’t in the wrong. It got to a point where I understood that Avery regretted what had happened and she was trying to move on.

    She’s doing her best and I’m proud of that. I really am. She’s gotten better over two years.

    Any of you can go and ask her, she’s open about everything in the situation.

    When Verinne returned from sorting out her life, there wasn’t much of a hi. It was straight up shit talking Avery and everything she had done wrong to her. The only way Verinne could have known we were friends was if she looked on Avery’s profile and saw it, or looked through her flickr favourites.

    I’m sorry but this was nearly two years later and you’re still after a girl who stole your shape. It’s disgusting and the fact you still seek to antagonize her, hoping she will look at your profile and your picks. “copythisifyou’reastalker” where you specifically have ‘It’s strange coming back to someone going out of their way to befriend your friends.” I’m going to tell you a secret Verinne. All the mutual friends you two have, befriended her. She met them through a mutual friend that wasn’t you, all of which she didn’t even know were friends with you, minus one. She even backed away from some of us not wishing to cause an issue but we befriended her. When you treated us like utter garbage for being her friend, she was going to remove us so we didn’t have to deal with you behaving like that.

    The woman you’ve sought to hate wanted to remove friends she made to make it easier on us in regards to having to deal with you refusing to leave the past behind you. You caused people you claim to be friends issues because they befriended someone you didn’t like. Could have just muted her and left us out of it.

    I’m ashamed that you’re 28 and still clinging to this. Finding out some of the things you had done was really sad. You weren’t as innocent as you claimed.

    It’s disappointing to think someone you had once considered decent and talented to be that vindictive and cruel.

    • You’ve clearly never seen the true Averylust, she is not the victim here. Verinne is. Avery is nasty, vindictive and spiteful and no, she hasn’t gotten better. You’ll see in the end what she is really like.

  13. lmao she has zero shame, still posting pics of shit to buy, lawllllll zero shame

  14. 1 – LOL agreed!

    2 – Are we DONE with the backdrop city secrets yet???

    4 – It’s so fucking stupid when people post vague secrets. If you’re gonna call someone out, DO IT PROPER! Don’t be a chicken shit about it! And if you TRULY believed that this person is a pedophile, then you’d be contacting the authorities with proof, instead of posting this lame ass secret.

    6 – *yawwwwnnn* this again??

    7 & 19 – woooooowwwww…. i don’t know how to feel about this :/

    11 – yeah he is full of himself from what i’ve seen.

    18 & 29 – You all bitch and moan about designers using rendered ads, yet some of the most popular stores on the grid use them. If someone were to suggest not buying from those stores, you all would be SKOOK, because render or not, at the core of it all, you all truly don’t give a shit about it, you just want something to bitch about because let’s face is, people love being professionally angry about everything and nothing.

    20 – What exactly is the issue here? the garment looks the same in both pics. o_O

    23 – YES!! I hate morphed skin ads. When I see ads like this, it makes me think that the body must look like trash and that’s why they don’t bother to include any of it in the ad.

    25 – Her shapes are actually very proportional and realistic, at least on the body. Would you rather be like so many people walking around with t-rex arms? LOOOL!! And it’s her youtube channel, she can do wtf she wants with it. It would be stupid of her to NOT promote herself. Come on.

    26 – You’re clearly trying to make fun of a particular speaking style but you missed by a mile. You sound like a fucking idiot.

  15. I feel for her situation but I’m rather disappointed to hear that she’s shopping so much. Have some respect for the designers that are helping you raise money. You might not see it but you’re slapping everyone in the face and I’m sure everyone feels bad about your shopping while they were trying to help.

  16. Most of these are made by the same person.. Or is it just me!

    As for ruffles.. RUFFLES ARE FUCKING AWESOME.. If you don’t like it shop somewhere else 😉

  17. Can I just say it’s fucking h i l a r i o u s that Verinne is officially unofficially “75% back 25% lost” and boom, salty Avery secret.
    Also the conditions of “Maybe if you got out of the house and got a life people would stop calling you out on copying Verinne” are so strange.

    Let’s make it a thing though.
    “Man guys I was such a no life, homebody Saturday night. Did nothing but watch netflix all night haha.”
    “Lmao stop copying Verinne!”

    Nyeh. We’ll work on it, eh?

    Thoroughly enjoying this joke of a situation spiral further out of control. Next time you see a white haired kitsune out in public, don’t forget to attempt to destroy their real lives over it. Honestly anything less is a 100% under reaction and if we’re being honest, minimum 2 years obsession. Go hard or go home.

    Speaking as someone who went HAM on Avery because I had my feelings hurt everyone roped me in with crazy ol’ Verinne when I stood up to the psychotic shitstorm surrounding my shape being botted – this is beyond a joke now. I asked Verinne super nicely to remove mention of me from her blog and she muted me in response. I just want it to be over with, who has this much energy to invest into an obsession on such a massive scale!?

    • Honestly the thing that made me chuckle over it is that other than the ears and white colorscheme, the photos couldn’t look any less alike. It’s kinda just like…. ??

  18. I just went to the For Rose event and there’s hella cute stuff there tbh >.< Inexpensive too. Good job with the drama publicity! hi5!

      • Nah, the shoppers aren’t being scammed. They get an item and most don’t care where their lindens go once they have the item they wanted. It’s the designers who get the shaft.

  19. In regards to #10 While Jacks is off their rocker, if you’ve ever spent any time in the trans community you’ll find that the dark skinned avatars are some of the most rudest, pushy, ill mannered, obnoxious assholes in all of SL. When they themselves play in to the racial stereotypes its no surprise that others will push back.

    • Most of the dark-skinned avatars in the Trans Community are played by white males and females though. I am friends with many. So…. yeah.

    • I do hope you realize that many of the “dark skin avatars” on Second Life are not even played by real persons of color. Most are just used for fetishism of skin color or to reinforce bad stereotypes. If didn’t know, now you do! ♥

  21. Again, everyone is overlooking what has been posted below (which I will kindly relink incase it got lost and you need to be reminded) that THIS BITCH HAS HAD FUNDRAISERS to support whatever life problem she is facing. It’s fine if your friends wanna help support you in a troubled time, but this isn’t our first rodeo — at what point, do you start looking at yourself as a begger?

    Here is that:
    https://virtual-secrets.com/virtual-secrets/slsecret-week-309/

    Another issue — we are all talking shit about this but which one of you are gonna be the first to call her out publicly on her flickr or facebook or write in her group? Yeah.. don’t wanna lose those brownie points with a designer, do ya? Maybe if you leave her some comments telling her how you love her art and will be there at the event buying every fatpack, she will add you to her blogger team!

    • If you don’t feel it’s a worthy cause, don’t shop there.

      But fuck’s sake. Don’t be a bitch to a fellow human being who just lost a parent.

      Goddamn.

      • At any given moment; there’s atleast 30,000 people logged into Second Life — how many of them have lost parents?
        I don’t go around picking on people that have lost loved ones… I do however, talk shit about people who turn tragedies into a public spectacle for personal monetary gain.

      • @Blaise Glendevon

        Agreed, well said. It’s as though they just can’t help themselves.

      • Wow so you’ve still not grasped what the issue is here .lmao The fact that this event is going on without any proof and receipts of what the money goes to , and you’re here swallowing this raw shows that you’re soo caught up in the sl bubble . You should google how many scams goes down in fundraising, if you ever get interested in what goes on in the real world. Lol.

  22. Shop if you want the items but remember, it is the creators taking part in the event who are paying for the handbags with the time it took to make their item. If they are happy enough to subsidize the beginning of a designer handbag collection, who are we to deny them?
    But, funny how the first fundraiser was to stop a foreclosure, meaning there was a mortgage involved, but now she helps her father pay rent? If the foreclosure was averted in that she had enough left over to go to Disneyland and buy a computer, then how come they now pay rent?
    Never mind that, if someone lives with their parents and is making an income, surely they pay their share of the costs and do not call it helping with rent, especially if her mother has been deathly ill.
    As for her mother, it is sad that she died. But it seems like she has already been cremated, no need to pay for a casket etc right? And even if there was a need, surely the money goes first to outstanding costs etc and not on expensive frivolities. Maybe later, once all has been paid, there could be time for handbags and holidays.
    Someone said something about dying not being a bad life choice, but not having insurance or not preparing for the cost of death when one is gravely ill, is a bad life choice of itself. Maybe the cost of a Disneyland trip or the price of a handbag applied to a modest life insurance policy would have been a better choice.

    • You clearly know nothing about life choices if you believe that the average American has insurance, let alone being able to prepare for the costs of death, or life insurance. Especially if someone has a pre-existing g condition, making them ineligible.

      I doubt a $30 handbag would cover either of those costs.

      The average American family loves below European poverty lines.

      • “$30 would not cover these costs, therefore may as well spend it on something else and beg for money online.”

        That’s essentially what you’re saying.

        Your lack of logic is… Incomprehensible.

      • @ are you joking. It’s Still not other people’s responsibility. The lack of accountability on this issue is mind boggling ignorant. Stop defending this. If people really cared about Rose they would stop enabling her by giving in to her and helping her financially.

      • Nobody is asking it to be anyone’s responsibility to help. Everyone has free will and a choice if they want to BUY AN ITEM, that happens to assist a fellow human being at a time of loss.

        The ones DONATING are her friends, who are providing the items which are for sale at the event.

        My logic was perfectly sound. The $30 shopping spree she went on for a handbag after the death would never have covered HER RECENTLY DECEASED MOTHERS insurance, or funeral cover. And in your frame of logic, it wasn’t her responsibility to pay it – it was her parents responsibility. So, she has every right to buy the handbag.

        While her mother’s life and expenses were not HER responsibility, unfortunately for her, covering the cost of her death does fall on her and the rest of her family.

        The GoFundMe was set up by her father and distributed to their family and friends. Some of those friends are also on SL (remembering her father of a not on SL)

        At any given time (as stated by someone else) there are X number of people logged into SL. How do any of us know what donation sites they are signed up to for causes, or disability payments, or unemployment benefits, or food stamps, or government assistance programs. We don’t. It’s not our business unless we know them.

        Unfortunately, because Rose is a SL creator, the assumption is she is some kind of celebrity, living the high life, rolling in the lindens of residents who buy her products.

        She’s not. She’s just a regular person, who happens to have a talent and passion for making things. Some might like her stuff, some may not. But that isn’t the point.

        This isn’t Kim Kardashian starting a GoFundMe to get ass implants or an ego reduction for her husband. This is a bunch of friends, coming together to help support their friend during a really tough time. They are donating their time and product for people to buy.

        It isn’t as if Rose is sitting around eating bon bons all day, watching days of our drearies, playing video games and going online shopping – she’s working to support her family, and struggling while doing it. LIKE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE WORLD.

        I applaud her for helping her family, with foreclosures and funeral costs. She’s a young lady, who it seems has her head in the right place, and that is by protecting and helping her family, and by having the balls to speak up and let people know she can’t do it on her own.

        Sure, tons of people don’t ask for help, or feel they can’t (because of people like you guys saying “not our problem, work harder”) but many people do, and friends and family help out where they can. (That bit is for all you lovely sods saying we clearly don’t live in the real world – Susan, the real world is exactly the same, there are thousands of gofundme’s for a range of things from turtle circumcision to developing edible pubic hair to helping people who are struggling with the cost of something)

        Do you know her home life situation? Do you know her mother’s medical history? Do you know anything other than what you heard from others or read on a site like this? Do you live her life?

        If you were told a story about a family where the mother was battling cancer, or a brain tumour, Dad has to quit work to stay home and care for her and they had to spend all their money on meds and medical treatment – and along the way, the costs became so much that they couldn’t afford their home payments, and were threatened with foreclosure – but the community pitched in and helped out so they didn’t lose it, and thankfully had enogh left over to take her to Disneyland so her family could have a little time together filled with joy, even though she was very sick, this maybe being her last family getaway. Then a year later the woman died despite all the medical treatments, and the family, still paying off medical treatments they couldnt really afford are now faced with the costs of a funeral. Again, the community pitches in to help the greiving family, because the whole family is trying to survive off the income of their daughter, who had to quit school to work hard enough to support them.

        Would you deny the young lady a $30 handbag? Would you persecute her for asking help? Would you tell her not to buy a computer with money she earned from her job, a computer that helps her contribute more because she can make some extra money using it – additionally the computer will be useful when she goes back to school to finish her degree. Would you belittle the girl or her family? Would you put it in the local news how lazy the family are? Would you stand out the front of her house in protest about how the family are getting handouts from strangers?

        This story was hypothetical, I don’t know Rose or her story.

        What I do know is this: SL is a community, like all others. Some people want to help or pitch in when others are in need. Some don’t.

        Don’t be the assholea who makes rumour based judgements on a situation, just so you can exert an opinion.

        Have some empathy, have some humanity.

        If you don’t like the cause, don’t donate. But FFS – do not pass judgement on a person and their whole family, just because you personally wouldn’t ask for help.

        P.s how do you feel about donating a dollar or two to bringing fresh water to kids in 3rd world countries? Asking for a friend.

      • Anyone that has actually struggled to pay medical bills after a loved one suffers something traumatic, understands that “money leftover for a vacation”, is not in the cards. Anyone that has struggled, actually struggled, to pay everyday bills, on top of continued medical costs for a loved ones knows, there is no leftover money. If there is, it goes to bills. Once you’ve found yourself in that kind of financial position, you learn real quick how to avoid it. You don’t continue making poor financial choices year after year, expecting that others will pick up the slack.

        Rant all you want about how she’s a responsible person paying bills for her family, but you’re dead wrong. You can’t have both a mortgage and rent, it doesn’t work that way. She claims to have been paying both, given her first financial crisis involved stopping a foreclosure on her own property. If that was as successful as she claims, she wouldn’t be paying rent now.

        There is no casket involved in a cremation. Having literally just lost my mother four days ago, and going through the entire process of what it costs, from the least expensive, to the most expensive options, I know what what I am talking about when I say this woman is full of shit. She is flat out lying to people about expenses she has, because she knows it worked before. People that like her are gullible enough to believe her, either because they really do like her and are her friends, or because they simply don’t want to think ill of someone they believe may have went through something tragic.

        I am all for raising money for friends, for causes, hell for nothing at all other than to have fun money. What I don’t like, is the dishonesty behind a lot of it. She very well could have simply said “I’m feeling low, reality has hit, I need a pick me up”. I would gladly help, I would purchase to my heart’s content, just to bring a smile to someone’s face during a tragedy, because I get it. What I won’t do, is help, promote, like, or even defend, someone that uses trickery and flat out lying to try and goat sympathy from people. Especially someone with a history of doing it. What the money is being used for doesn’t really bother me all that much. The lying to get the money in the first place, bothers me, but not enough that I’d make a secret about it, or get pissed off, lol. It’s just obnoxious to see people continually try and garner sympathy from others under false pretenses. I bet if she had simply said she’s super sad, depressed, needs a pick me up, people would have flocked to help. Generally speaking, most people are good people and like making others smile, especially when they’re sad. It’s also true that generally speaking, people aren’t fond of being lied to, though.

        Of course, I let my money do my talking, and I simply choose not to purchase anything for this cause. I’m perfectly okay with that. But this is virtual-secrets, and people are going to discuss something, that’s pretty much wtf this site is for. So I can have an opinion like anyone else.

      • @Are you joking. You`re trying to say that people here do not feel sympathy for Rose. Clearly that is not the case. If you read everything on here you will find out that there’s more to the story. If you want to give to people in need then give to a registered charity, then you will know that it’s not a scam and where the money is going. These fundraiser events on SL are making a mockery out of charity. As there is never any proof or receipts. That’s what I cannot get over is so hard for you to understand. Or is that okay with you ?

        Another thing I don’t get is how Rose will ever get her life together, if every second year events are being made to finance her next crisis? That is not helping her. That’s enabling her. Do you give to every homeless person? Do you know how scams work on those go fund me pages? And how people has been scammed time and time again. A true caring friend of Rose would not enable her like you crazies are doing.

        Anyway, Good luck with your next ” Rose event ” in around 2 years.

      • @Areyoujoking – no.. because she creates stuff in a video game NOBODY thinks of her as a celebrity lol. It’s the same as if someone posted their personal tragedy in the Sims message boards in hopes for gofundme donations and people just shared that story around.
        Because someone creates content in a game doesn’t give them any level of fame – this isn’t the same as a rockstar putting on a charity concert. This is just some lazy girl and her friends asking people on a video game to donate money and people apparently are going for it, again.

      • “It isn’t as if Rose is sitting around DRINKING TEA all day, watching GREYS ANATOMY, playing video games and going online shopping – she’s working to support her family, and struggling while doing it”

        uhhhhhhhhhh thats exactly what she does according to her plurks

      • I find it hilarious how you just bashed me in the past week, yet go white knighting the said person you mixed me up with. *slow claps*

  23. I don’t know why people are so het up about the For Rose event. It’s not like you’re being asked to donate with no return. You’re engaging in a transaction of goods for linden, which the creators then are donating to a person they see worthy. You’re shopping, just like you would at C88 or FaMESHED or whatever. After the lindens are out of your wallet, how is it any big deal where they go?

    • Let’s say for a moment that there’s a cute item that’s on sale at an event, but advertising for the event states that all proceeds go to “Nazis R Us Charity – For A More Aryan, Less Jewish/Gypsy/Homosexual America” which (although hypothetical) is – I would imagine – a cause that you don’t believe in, nor want to support.

      Hyperbole aside, disregarding personal opinions about how reprehensible this Everyone Else Should Fund My Misfortune culture is: this bullshit event is supporting a cause I don’t believe in.

      Consumers have every right to voice their views with their wallets. And occasionally, OCCASIONALLY – bullshit is so stinky that it deserves to be called out.

      And this STINKS.

      • Are you really equating someone whose lifestyle you think is irresponsible to people who are all “FUCK YEAH, GENOCIDE,” really?

        Please, reach down and get a goddamn grip.

      • @Blaise

        I substantiated it as hyperbole and gave it as (clearly) a far-reaching example.

        Both are purely presented as causes someone may not believe in. If you read that and literally, honest-to-god thought I was making a direct comparison a lazy creator in Second Life to a made-up group that supports genocide, you’re a fucking idiot.

      • Every time you buys anything in SL, you are finding someone else’s life in some way. Just because this has a stated ouspose, makes it no different.

        And so you are aware, your comparison was distasteful and needed to be called out.

        Lastly, calling the creator lazy, is badly informed. You know nothing about how hard she may or may not work. Making that assumption just shows how you’d rather pass judgement than try and understand why someone may reach out for help.

      • @Are You Joking?

        This is the second time in 3.5 years that she has required a fundraiser/GoFundMe to bail her out of financial burdens.

        You want to know how many times I’ve had to do so in the past 3.5 years? Zero. Point. Zero. And I’m lazy as fuck! But I also know that when I fall onto hard times it’s not the internet’s job to solve that.

        “And so you are aware, your comparison was distasteful and needed to be called out.”

        That’s fair. I agree.

        However, this whole “woe is me,” “fix my problems strangers online,” “I don’t have a real job so I don’t think it’s fair I should have to pay for stuff myself” GoFundMe/fundraiser saga is distasteful and needed to be called out, too. So now we’re even.

    • because people took the time from their rl lives to put something together for someone who apparently is making this a regular thing..
      Why should she get a job if people let this happen.. you know what her job is?? Coming up with stories so people with hearts will feel bad enough to pay her rent..her bags.. her trips.. her computers.. and whatever else may be next. Maybe instead of taking all the time to think up all these tragedies create more shit to sell.. ooh wait…wait… why bother some shmuch will finance it.

      • I just lost my mother some months ago. I didn’t ask for help, she wasn’t insured. I am still paying for her funeral costs. Our family actually buried her, didn’t cremate. I didn’t complain when I was confronted with her funereal/medical costs. I took on a 2nd job to help with the costs of her funeral until we’re finished paying it off (which will be some months away) the medical costs is almost half a million.. I really don’t know what we’re going to do about that but…, while working on second life and going to school for a different degree.
        However, I don’t buy needless things to ‘help with my grief.’ I attend grief support groups (for free) in real life.

        I still donated to her because I have empathy, At the end of the day her mother is no longer here. I still want to help her regardless. She lost one of the driving forces in her life.

        If I could afford to buy a purse and feel a little better about myself I would. But I don’t, I deal with my grief differently. I took up painting and the costs of that were a few bucks something I’m trying out while wallowing in my grief. I took my own few funds and did something nice for myself. A few canvases cost me almost 20.00 dollars USD. Something I was still willing to invest in because I was tired of feeling like I was waking up to a nightmare daily.

        Stop demonizing and driving the humanity out of her because of what she chooses to do. I know Rose is kind of spacey, she may ‘overshare’ and be neglectful of her real expenses but she’s still a fucking human being. Being kind is a choice. One I wish more of you out there would choose. If designers fold together and want to help her let them, if she wants to start a gofundme page for the funeral costs, let her. Stop being so bias you blind yourselves to the fact she lost one of the most important people in her life. I’m not saying I agree completely with her choices to buy things before/after the loss, I’m saying regardless the girl has lost an important part of her life, shared it, started a fundraiser, had others start an event for her, and is trying to move past the pain. FUCKING LET HER.
        Those of you putting in the past and going at her for the computer.. so what? repeated behavior? I’m sorry, houses < losing a loved one. Huge difference. I don't care how you feel personally, it's up to you and your own humanity to realize she may not handle things as you do. Be a better human and recognize that fact.

        I could have reached out and 'plead' for help. I didn't. However I was still touched by the online support I did have. Rose has a very successful business online, it's the same as real life when you lose a loved one. They support, send money and visit to give gifts or food for your household. Thankfully I was blessed by that, who's to say Rose was? I only ask this, if you lost your parent, reached out for help, and were told you're nothing but a greedy human being how the fuck would you feel? I'm not saying she's completely in the right, I would've handled things differently, but I'm saying at a basic human level, give the girl a fucking break. I won't respond to those that hate this comment, I will only say, I know what Rose is going through, many of you do, we don't all handle it the same. She has help, and support online that others can only dream of. I hope she can make a better life for herself in all this adversity.

      • @ Same Feels

        Well said, scraping through the mass of old grannies having a bitch to find a few Humane response is refreshing. It’s ironic that said grannies are still going on about it and a handful have yet to donate! They skip though reasonable comments and responses to whine.

        At the end of the day, the Event will continue, it will no doubt be a big success and the old grannies will still be tutting and clicking their tongues at all these poor ‘gullible’ people who donated because they have a spark of Humanity. Not to mention, we’re all supposed to believe that she did this before based on a former SL Secret post? To quote “It’s on Facebook, so it must be true!”. I’ll say it again – Don’t like the Event? Don’t go, it’s not hard. Bunch of salty old grannies. I find that you’re three thumbs down are a poor show of the pitchfork holding groupies, trying to rip a person apart like animals.

        On that note, with all this publicity from Salty ass bitches. I want someone to link me the Landmark to this event, I knew nothing about the woman and after the response, want to go donate to her. Take my gullible, naive, bullshitting, stupid ass to the event to donate monies!

      • @ observer. You are an enabling fool who must be gaining something from this event ,since you are more busy defending and enabling Rose, than seeing how this can never help Rose turn her life around . And i would think that would be more important. Smh

      • @ Vicks

        Don’t you worry about me, like I said before and will again since it seems to have eluded you.

        —– I don’t know this woman, I don’t know the circumstances.—–

        I want MORE than an virtual-secrets post whenever it was or a SSHOT of some comment on a Facebook I assume? I don’t know, I’m not so active in Social Media, to PROVE to me that this is bullshit. I’ve been a SIM Admin and I’ve seen it all, allllll the very creative ways people will go to in order to shit talk or put someone in a shit position. Right down to photoshopped gyazos with the wrong date by a single digit. Photomanip is rife in SL with haters, exact replicas too. I can’t possibly believe it without solid proof and if you have that. By all means, show me instead of going on a rage.

        I will agree that I am not on the correct place for accurate information, it’s a gossip site. Therefore, I take things at face value.

        The point I was making is regardless of what you, I , everyone here says. The event will go ahead, it will generate money because the designers -WANT- To, nobody is holding a gun to their heads, it’s the moral of it all. This woman ‘Rose’ could be absolutely anyone. If you don’t want to go, don’t go, If you believe you’ve been scammed, like I said below – Go through the necessary route to claim back your money.

        – You think she’s a scammer
        – I don’t know her and based on what i’ve seen, I don’t.
        – Other people don’t
        – Other people do
        —– Neither of us are fools, we are going off on what we read. End of, unsure how to make it anymore obvious.

        Though if you all keep going on about it I want that woman’s account so I can log into SL and give her the money for the damn bag just so she can look down and think ‘ Someone gave me this nice bag and it makes me feel nice past the misery of all the SL drama and my mum dying’. If she is a big horrible scammer as accused, then guess she’s got another bag.

        Whether or not she is a scammer, it is MY Choice to do what I wish and if you think that my choice makes me a fool – you do you, I’ll do me, but I’ll do it without calling -you- a fool. Kamra will do what we can’t so let’s stop going after the woman like she’s the devil incarnate, you wouldn’t like it done to you, because trust me all it takes on here is a false picture quoting your name and some rubbish for everyone to jump on it.

      • @ observer i do not worry about you as i do not care for enabling fools like yourself . You will be here in two years time, when Rose ( or another store owner in crisis ) need a helping hand AGAIN.

        And seriously ,your long drawn out essays here sends everyone to sleep .

    • @Bobby. What makes you think she lives below the poverty line? Have you seen her copic collection on top of all her other art supplies which she proudly displays and shows off on her sl facebook? Those markers are not cheap and not something a poor person could afford. Why didn’t she sell this collection to pay towards her mothers funeral? A person living below the poverty line wouldn’t even consider splashing out on a designer bag because they would need to save it for food and bills. I know this because I am poor and living below the poverty line. I also paid for my own mothers funeral by working a second job. She’s an artist for sure = a con artist.

      • I don’t know shit about this girl, just going by what her supporters are desperately clinging to – that she lives in poverty, and we should all feel sorry for her.

        I feel sorry for the fact that she lost a parent. That’s horrible, and my heart goes out to her. I DON’T, however, feel sorry for someone who turns that into an opportunity to set up GoFundMe campaigns and fundraisers rather than, y’know, getting another job or seeking gainful employment to make ends meet.

        As someone else said, other creators have had personal issues and closed their stores for a time, citing the fact that they need to deal with their real life as a priority. This is a logical way to handle it.

        Nobody is begging Olive to remain open instead of her taking some real fucking responsibility and getting a job to pay for these things that she’s trying to offload onto the internet.

        Literally nobody would hold anything against her if she was like “Oh, hey, my mom died – I need to put Olive on hiatus while I deal with this.” Instead, she took THIS path (which she also took 3.5 years ago, let’s not forget) and is copping judgement from those who can’t fathom turning to Second Life for help.

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: The internet is not here to foot your bills, you lazy cunt.

      • @nope
        she said it herself when she couldnt pay her bills. im aware people are human and things happen to all people good and bad.. trust me this. annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd even if she got the bad to make herself feel better.. ok ill even give her that…. so was disney or the computer a splurge for foreclosure?? im losing my houseeeee i need mickey mouse?? get the fuck outta here.. fool me once.. its all on the dumb asses who let it happen. lol i have a heart bigger than this world and would do anything for anyone … is i know its authentic…so i guess SL will foot the bill for everything in her life… i dont blame her.. shes smart…she knows ppl are so dumb

  24. For those still in need of a reality check, someone mentioned it below but I think it needs more visibility – the same shit happened in August 2014 with this creator, begging for the internet to help her with her life problems.

    https://virtual-secrets.com/virtual-secrets/slsecret-week-309/

    Get your shit together. Get a real job. Don’t fuck around online because you’re too lazy to go out into the real world.
    Experience financial hardship once? Fair enough. That’s life, and it’s hard. I feel for you.

    But to not make an effort to ACTIVELY IMPROVE your situation in 3 and a half years and to AGAIN turn to the internet for assistance?

    Shame on you. Point remains. Still scum. The internet is not here to foot the bill for your misfortunes.

    • She did not freaking ask for this event. Medical expenses are considered bills. Rose and I may have had a falling out but damn if she didn’t help me out on several occasions, openly and selflessly sharing tips on mesh. Without her, I wouldn’t know half of what I do now. She had been saving for that PC for months. A foreclosure on a home costs thousands of dollars. A PC costs a fraction of that. I can 100% believe that yes she had enough left over from her saving for a PC and the prior event to have gone to Disney. Why are we pissy that her friends bought her a freaking bag? Her MOTHER DIED! She’s God damn trying to cope with losing one of the VERY few people in her rl. People don’t get “real” jobs for several reasons. Rose works in SL just to get by. When she has a bit extra, why shouldn’t she treat herself? Man. I really hope you don’t ever need help for anything financially. Rose has the biggest heart I’ve ever seen. She will drop her own issues to help someone else. It’s really no one’s business if her friends want to help with the devastating time. If you don’t want to donate or are skeptical, then don’t involve yourself. If you want to buy a product from the event or donate to the GoFundMe then do so. Leave the girl alone. She’s not hurting anyone.

      • “It’s really no one’s business if her friends want to help with the devastating time.”

        You’re right. It’s no one’s business.

        … AND YET THEY’RE LITERALLY CREATING AN EVENT CALLED “FOR ROSE” – THEY’RE MAKING IT INTO EVERYONE’S BUSINESS.

        Jesus fucking christ you people are so obtuse.

        “Man. I really hope you don’t ever need help for anything financially.”

        I, like almost everyone else, have been through varying degrees of financial hardship at certain points of my life. But like most other logical human beings I recognized that this was not the fault of anyone else, nor should they have to foot the bill for it. I worked 3 (non-Second Life) jobs to climb out of it, and guess what!? I fuckin’ did climb out of it. So apologies if I have little respect for the “HELLO INTERNET SEND ME MONEY PLS” approach.

      • @forgotten name.. a foreclosure costs thousands.. HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO FIX IT.. EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS.. P R I O R I T I E S … without a house whats keeping your computer from the rain? where tf do you plug it in? what fucking rainbow do you people live under.. i’m from the real world.

      • There is no way in hell that saving up for months to buy a pc, and pay off a foreclosure, plus medical bills and other financial hardships, would leave anyone money leftover for a trip to Disney. We’re talking, at the very least-that means minimum, tens of thousands of real, US dollars here, for all of those things.

        You can’t have money for those things, plus leftover money, and continue to cry poverty, and expect to be taken seriously. That is not how poverty works, not even close. She’s only doing it again now, because she knows it worked before. The event was started because she was whining about financial hardships, and before anyone knew about her gofundme too, plus her backstory of repeatedly doing this. If you don’t think some of those designers trying to help are now pissed off at her for her shit, you’re delusional. They very much are, but if they pull out of it now, THEY will become the heartless assholes, now wouldn’t they?

    • Amen Rose is nothing but trailer trash begging and whining for help constantly why crying and whining about what she doesn’t have. She is fat, overweight, and lazy, plus her avatar is but ass fucking ugly to be quite frank. Her products are complete shit and I’ve never bought any of them. She was to worried about keeping up with her supposed friends by going to disney and shit, but couldn’t pay for her own fucking internet. She whined when the neighbor shut her ass down. Sorry but YOUR A FUCKING TRAILER TRASH HO ROSE. Get off your lazy ass and get real job.

      • What in the absolute almighty fuck does her physical appearance or the appearance of her avatar have to do with any of this, though?

      • @blaise most likely nothing but its called people being fed up. apparently the poster knows a bit of extra info.. we all have problems… if you keep begging and they keep giving..dont expect a change..ur pretty much a sucker in her eyes.

  25. I don’t know Rose/Olive personally at all, but I do see RL gofundme pages all the time for people who need help after the loss of a loved one. I mean, it’s not uncommon for a community to come together to help support someone financially during a rough time. If her friends or customers wanna throw some extra money her way right now, who cares? And fuck me, if my mom just died I’d do anything I could to make myself feel a tiny bit better. Including shopping for myself. So just calm down chickens, no one is forcing you to donate if you don’t want to. And come on, how shitty would it feel to be grieving the death of your mom and see all this trash posted online at the same time? Sheeesh…

    xox

    • brb begging online for friends family and strangers to help me when things get tough

      no I’m not because that is embarrassing

      • hell yeah@embarassing… and to do it over and over shows she doesnt give a fuck

    • How shitty would it be to have a fundraiser with no proof or receipts for the course that’s being raised money for ? And then to find out later down the line that it was a scam , And apparently not her first one. That would be real shitty. So let’s start with real facts first. This is the internet ,people are being tricked into all kinds of scams . Not everyone knows rose in real life or even in sl so for everyones sake why not be smart first.

    • What is trying to be pointed out as this is not her first time crying about finances or holding fundraisers because she is spending beyond her means ~ sorry I stopped donating to fundraisers for individuals years ago because learned 99% are total scams only monies that I have donated to are RL charities that I know have receipts that and you can research that the money was given ~ everyday someone in SL is facing hardships but do not see them crying or holding fake fundraisers ~

  26. Everyone who falls for these fundraisers in second life just wastes their time. The ones who plan and create these events are always people who have stores or sims in SL. So why do they do this? Sure of cause just to save their own ass when they don’t have enough money in SL to pay the bills. That’s not a secret if people would start to open their eyes and look closer at these things. Everyone can write a nice text and say someone else is sick and needs help, but wheres the proof if these storys are true? The ones who run these events never show it. Best example is “The book of Daniel” by Neva Crystall, we all know the story of Daniel but it is true? This event was such a big thing to help Daniel in his pain and it worked so well cause a lot of great Designers participated to help Daniel and all the customers who bought the items helped too and everyone seemed happy about it. So if Neva and all the others where that close to Daniel and helped him like they said how can it be true that Neva Crystall and Keon Xenga preferred to create a Halloween sim 14 days after the fundraising event started? So where did the money for Daniel really go? Everyone should always make sure to know all the details about this kind of events before they start to be a part of it cause this fundraising charity stuff in SL is just a joke for so many. Think about this and don’t blame others for being a part of it when you didn’t make sure that you know the real facts behind it.

    • Exactly. Anyone can say something tragic happened to them and they need financial help. They play the victim and pulls on people’s heart strings. It happens all the time on the internet. Celebrities has fallen for this trick too and donated to causes that wasn’t legit. Proof and receipts are needed. In SL people do get so easily wrapped into the sl celebrity phenomenon.

      • Instead of their tacky fundraisers on a computer game, which btw is not only degrading to the desceased , but strips their dignity as well by putting something so private as a family funeral out there for any spare dollar they can grab-they need to get off the damn game and GO FIND A JOB TO HELP PAY FOR YOUR FAMILIES FUNERAL COSTS. Also, many adults already have life insurance policies and money saved in their 40s. Stop playing this victim game, scamming people for money online. The real victims here are the deceased whose names and dignity are being ruined. Get a fucking job !!!!

  27. Not another fundraiser for Rose! Wasn’t it bad enough she made herself look god awful over taking a trip to disney when she claimed her parent’s home was being foreclosed on? Now her mother dies and she feels the need to treat herself on other people’s charity too?

    I can not fathom the mind that would think either of those situations would be acceptable.

    It was said before but it bears repeating. It’s wise never to give anything other than to an official charity with full information and transparency about where the money is going and what it is being used for. If you don’t want to pay for someone else’s handbag budget or holiday, please don’t donate to dubious causes online. She isn’t the first and she won’t be the last to pull this crap. I was as disgusted by it two years ago (week 309 for those interested, I had to check to see if I hadn’t imagined it because of the severe case of de ja fucking vu) as I am today.

    When you can’t even trust some major charities not to spend the money you give them unwisely, how can you trust someone on SL who doesn’t even have the self control to spend her cash on her mortgage payment or family funeral expenses instead of on herself?

    I’m not bashing anyone’s right to do what they want to with their own money, but when you are rattling the tin can looking for other people’s, that is a whole other ball game.

    • The other thing that gets my goat, for all the people saying get a real job. Her store would easily get her enough income in a month to support herself and her family if she applied herself. For all those giving 101 excuses on why she might struggle to find a job because of the economy, transport, an alien cow invasion etc.

      There is no reason she couldn’t work from home and make a profit through SL like 100’s of other designers do, it just takes a lot of time and effort instead of holding your hand out for donations.

      What makes me sick about this situation is a lot of designers and people that are taking part, spending money to help thinking its a great cause without knowing the truth behind this person and when they find out it’s going to make them less likely to help actual causes in future after being burned by this. Trash like this robs people of their good nature and makes them cynical, they steal the goodness out of the world.

      I hope karma pays a visit to Olive and to everyone that has taken part in good faith, well done you for being a beautiful person.

      • That should be –

        “I hope karma pays a visit to Olive. To everyone that has taken part in good faith, well done you for being a beautiful person.”

      • @boohoo i was thinking the same.. they said she has a big family.. get ur wallets ready suckers

    • Ironically enough, I was a close friend back when the first fundraiser occurred and we are no longer friends (since then) due to her attitude about the money that was raised for her.

      Not only did she moan that it ‘wasn’t enough’ she also had the gall to say that it wouldn’t pay for any legal help, what was the point, so paid her internet bill and part of her trip instead.

      She owns items that a lot of people could only dream of owning yet practically begs for things that would be deemed important or are a priority.
      She also has a shopping habit.

      If her mother has died, I’m Sorry, but she needs to stop relying on everyone else to pick up the pieces in her life when things go bad.

  29. #28 IDK why she copies her, the original avi is fucking ugly, I have seen it in world, it’s fucking ridiculous. It’s funny anyone would wanna look like that in sl.

    • Honestly, though, this avatar doesn’t even look like the one posted. They have the same bento ears on from Aii. That’s it. And a lot of people have those ears. Dressing in all white isn’t a copy. The shapes are clearly different. The accessories are clearly different, and if we’re going to start mocking people for liking the same bento ears, then we should probably just close down stores. This just sounds like someone boring is starting up old drama again for shits and giggles.

  30. #3 – Adham doesn’t give enough of a fuck to cater to anyone’s bullshit.

    • Sounded like someone was just jealous that they can’t hold onto a guy. LOL

      Maybe if Zann wasn’t such a slut? That’s not Calen’s fault Zann is just a little bitch. Takes two to tango, bitch. Oh and Zann doesn’t even have a boyfriend… are you jealous you can’t get him? Pathetic little cunt.

      Take your tiny little dicklet elsewhere

      • lmao Zann isn’t here for drama, and sure isn’t spreading his legs for just anyone. Salty much? Did he reject you one day? Ya sound pretty bitter.

      • Actually; wasn’t really a matter of Zann, I don’t know the dude personally…so no, not salty at all. 😀

        He’s probably a nice guy for all I know. But obviously the person that posted is butthurt over Calen getting with Zann with the “stay away from my man” crap and it’s not all on Calen if Zann is going with it; that was more of the point I was aiming for.

    • #3 LAWLS, first off he does have a hubby you ingrate. Funny you say Boystown people. There is no question it is all a clique there and no one speaks to you unless your in the clique, but back to the topic, I am sure Adham does not give a fuck about your piddly little issues. You also mention a Zann? lemme guess is he a guy you like or a partner, well if he is obviously he cant leave his legs closed either if hes off fuckin someone else . You say Zann is yours? You fucktard if he was he wouldn’t be hanging off someone elses cock or ass. dumb ass queen get a clue…

      • but…Zann’s not dating Calen…or anyone…”Stay away from Zann, he’s mine!” is just from someone who wants his attention…

  31. #10 has been common knowledge for a long time, but people seem to ignore it to wallow in their fetishes. This isn’t the first time someone running a trans or trans-friendly location has turned out to be racist, homophobic, transphobic or any combination of the above and it certainly won’t be the last, which deeply saddens me. I also find it disgusting that due to racists like this, people are almost forced to hide their true real life ethnicity. I know that some make a conscious choice to be totally different and that’s fine, but those who are forced to take the easy option and switch gender or ethnicity just for an easier time in Second Life should be free to be who they really want to be.

  32. Yaaa people attacking scandalize you’re just jelly and need peanut butter.

    Also thanks for everyone letting me know backdrop city existed now I go their daily to take pics. Bahhaha deuces

  33. LMAO #9 Remember that sleaze trying to hit me up on voice thru a sex group some months ago, obvious SL dirtbag xD

  34. I’m a designer who in good faith signed up for the For Rose fundraiser. I honestly felt and feel terrible for her situation.
    What I didn’t know is that she is spending money on designer bags and bragging about it via plurk. I don’t use Plurk, so how could I know?
    I also didn’t know that she had another fundraiser then went on to buy a computer.
    I’m not gullible, i saw a person in crisis and wanted to help. Now I feel used and wish I had just not done it. I hate her mother died, and I felt compelled to reach out my hand in the small way i could. I don’t understand why there are people here talking bad about designers who genuinely wanted to help and had all good intentions.
    Overall though, it seems I was misinformed and wish I had not done it. I simply feel used and mocked. I want to and feel compelled to help those in need or a rough place, but between the secrets today and reading her actions recently and in the past, I feel like a fool.

    • Don’t be fooled. The bag and figurines we’re from 4 days before the event. She bought those and her PC with her SL income money from Olive though.

      The computer being when she was in a lot of events (about 12 of them) and hassled her butt off through making a lot within TWO MONTHS. This was when she had free time and wasn’t in school. But being in a lot of events and making a lot in two months can result in having an income enough to buy a 1.4k PC

      Right now she still isn’t in school but now she’s sharing part of her SL income for her dad with the house and bills.

      You weren’t being used.

      • Whether the bag and computer was bought with her SL income or not, FUNDRAISERS are for those who are in a state of EMERGENCY, if she has an SL income that allows her to buy a bag and a computer than she is NOT in a state of emergency and therefore the whole thing implies that she is taking advantage of the situation and people and victimizing herself. Try living in a third world country with people who really need money, they would never buy a designer handbag no matter where the money came from, because they live in poverty and they actually struggle to pay for groceries and things that are BASIC NECESSITY.

      • @Cosmo&Wanda – she doesn’t have enough to buy a casket and a funeral though. She vented that, someone heard about that, and wanted to help. Hence why her friends are pitching in and created an event for her in which she never knew about until the plans were settled in. Please stop lacking compassion about it. Getting funeral arrangements and caskets aren’t easy and are expensive. Sure, people are dealing with stuff in the real world but Rose needs to lay her mother to rest so she can move on and do important things, like getting a job. Y’all need to give her some space.

      • It appears to me she’s been on the same situation for years and she’s not doing any smart decisions to get out of it and that’s what people are mostly mad about, because she’s immature, doesn’t know how to organize her finances and it results in situations like this that has already happened before. Yet, she manages to buy computers, bags, makeup, whatever. It’s just a lack of respect with those who actually doesn’t have anything and a lack of willingness to get out of that situation.

        That’s how us, adults, grow up, we go through tough situations, we make decisions that are often personal sacrifices that will help us grow as a person, become more mature and will reward us in the future because it takes us somewhere. She’s not taking herself anywhere cause everytime she’s in need she’s whining about it instead of taking an actual stand and dealing with it like a grown up. And whether her friends are doing the fundraiser or not, she’s allowing for it to happen like she did with the last one that resulted in her new computer.

      • they had her creamated, there’s no casket, etc. It’s already done and paid for.

      • I can agree that she’s not taking steps like having a job or anything that’s deemed to be a “responsible adult” and I do hope this will motivate her to go out there and do something to support her family more but right now she’s so focused on getting that funeral done and complete her grieving over her mother (which I’m sure will take a long time to get over) but maybe eventually, hopefully, she will grow from here on and do something than trying to buy things or just being on SL all the time. I really want her and her family to get better because they seriously deserves after what they just went through these past few years.

      • People in SL will lie, and do about anything to take advantage of others, i find it cute how innocent some of you still are when it comes to SL dramas.

    • @WowOk … bought 4 days before the event but the fundme page was made a few days after she died (which has over 1k usd). Lets not be naive little sheepies.

      • I didn’t even know about the gofundme. I’m just not sure what to think in general. I can see on these posts dates and such, but there were not things I knew about before hand. I wish I had seen ahead of time.
        All in all, I just wish her well. I hope the money that goes to her will be used for good reasons and she will be able to better her life in some way.

      • I’m just honestly hoping the broad doesn’t use someone else’s photos of her “mothers urn” I will be removing mine off Facebook asap.

    • you’re contributing to “the expenses of what comes next in the chapter of her life while dealing with the loss of her loved one” whatever that means…no one has a clear answer of where the money will go except she has shown her indulgent of expensive luxury art supplies and sailor moon toys

    • Seriously you are right because this is not the first time she has pulled scams no matter what you are told from whoever is trying to defend her with those claims the fact still remains all she is doing is duping everyone into believing she is destitute and need money like she need years ago then takes a trip CRIPES who does that and who knows where the money will go no matter what I will not spend one LINDEN at that event and will make sure I recommend to my friends to BOYCOTT that event

  35. I think the problem is that all of people only jump on keywords like ” fundraiser” “new bag” “$$$” without knowing the story behind. Then you create fake news and believe it must be true. I would not want to be in the same situation like in Rose’s case nor other would be.

    Concerns stated here have their valid reasons for sure. Personally I do not agree with her oversharing in such case, but here is a few facts :

    – it was taken from her personal plurk, she is allowed to talk about whatever she can
    – everyone has their way to deal with things ( but yeah I understand why are you mad about, I would be too)
    – if you do not like to donate the cause, just don’t , it is up to everyone

    and the last thing

    CAN WE JUST ALL APPRECIATE THERE IS SO MANY UNDERSTANDING, NICE AND SUPPORTIVE DESIGNERS ON THE GRID?

    I hope money will be spent wisely and things will sort out, that’s all I can say.

    • Very well said, can agree to this statement. I find it concerning though, that players would ‘boycott’ the event, sort of says more about them than the Designers. If you have the money to donate, do it, if not, don’t. Hope the even goes well.

      To the friends who are supportive, keep it up you are the definition of ‘Good friends’, ignore the haters and continue.

      • Seriously I could almost vomit at your goodie two shoe comments ~ would you like to know all your hard work at creating items for a scam artist? Think about that someone spends time, energy creating items that they will not earn anything because they are donating ONLY to find out this idiot cries wolf every couple years to tug on the heartstrings of people like you and hope that no one does their research into finding out she is nothing more than a con artist ~ sorry am a realist and again my experience in SL always leads to unless it is a RL charity or RL organization most 99% are scams and never AGAIN does anyone hear where the money went, did that person really get help HELL NO and so again will say YES will boycott this STUPID event to help this moronic idiot that has proven again she can manipulate people with her tears and drama because no matter what the timeline is she is making $$$ with her store then send that to her DAD and help him financially ~ stop your begging and get a pt RL job…and pullease dont come back with any bullshit cuz I have lost parents and been in financial straits that I did what most normal people did get an xtra job instead of begging

      • @ FunnyFace

        Then go be sick? You do you and I’ll be Humane about the stranger on the internet. I managed to get to line one of your onslaught of someone I don’t know, it gave me an insight as to who you are as a person.

        – Don’t forget to pick up your pitchfork after reading and resume hunting her down.

    • .you forgot to mention gullible people too,who are the only ones falling for this scam. Yes we’ve read all your long essays on how Rose situation is nothing like anything seen before. How we are all cruel for not understanding. Blah blah blah. Stop the pity party ,and get real life jobs ,so you can pay for real life stuff ,with hard earned real life money . That’s what people in real life do when real shit hits the fan. And it does for everyone of us.

      • Oh my dear, but you forgot that people buy items. Items.

        They are not blowing money in the air for free ( who would like to ?) so why do you call it scam ?

        ( by the way, once you purchase something and believe it will go to certain person you have 0 influence where money are gonna end , so its primarily YOUR choice , stop throwing a dirt on people who show they CARE and invest time in something like this )

        I wanted to support this cause as a creator and I did. I spent quite long time creating something brand new even I feel personally so very down mentally and my life is one big rough patch, so why not to turn my own sadness to something that would help someone?

        And I really love how people say we make thousands of $. I don’t. I’m happy to pay my bills and most of time these money ( if I would get really a lot) would be deserved for my hard work.

        and guess what? There is such precious thing we all carry in our heart. It is called empathy, maybe learn it someday.

      • You are so right,i do not have empathy for You being here trying to play on peoples sympathy. That is highly immoral. So check yourself on that dear.Tell your friend that everyones got problems big and small. We deal with it in our real lives. And you are really beyond help if you are try to say that people do not feel bad for Rose and her loss.Stop this your pity party. You guys are making fundraising a joke. If now designers of SL is saying that they cant make enough money in SL to support themselves . How about getting a real life job. You know like the rest of us.

      • Vicks,

        Have you been personally scammed by this person, by that I mean do you have the evidence as per my other comment or are you assuming? Because either way you have some serious RAGE about you. You’re on the war path on this page so I am going to assume that you’ve paid handsomely to the cause or if not, why ? I’ve yet to see anyone mention that Fundraising is a joke, going on about pity parties and complaining.

        How about you take a step back, get a drink and calm the fuck down.

      • so you think creating things in SL is different from working in office / supermarket / other facility is different?

        are you trying to tell me that time I spend with- researching what to create, creating my meshes, texturing them for days, advertise them and doing my customer service is nothing ?

        can you explain to me how is it possible I’m doing less work than average people having RL job ?

        do you actually know someone who makes living of sl ? you probably don’t

        but wait, I’ve already noticed you have zero empathy for other people, so why am I wasting my time with you ?

      • @An Observer Would be fun for you if i was to stay quiet wouldnt it ? But im here to disappoint you because when i see fundraising being used in this way i need to speak up. You would too if you had ever met people who relied on a one time fundraising amount. People who had nothing.: no income, no family no home. And no i have not been scammed by her, and you know what , i can still talk on the subject ,like i can talk on what the hell i please on here.

      • @you know who whats there to research? real designers design from their minds.. not research to steal ideas. ijs also if you have an ailment then SL should suffice but if SL isnt paying your bills and you have 2 walking legs.. you need to get your ass up and out of the house.. asap. just stating the facts

      • @Vicks

        Not really, I’m more thinking of your sanity but if you’re not then bash on! RAGEEEEE AWAY! GET SO ANGRY!!! ARRGGGHHH!!

        You’re amusement for me now, this will forever remind me of that poor person ‘Vicks’ having a meltdown on a gossip website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQcAzBpKew

      • @me – Real designers do research and then use their minds to create. No design is original and if you think it is the artist/designer/creator is good at covering their tracks or is good at building upon the initial source concept/inspiration. Same goes with inventions, more than one person has thought of it before.

        As for making a l living in Second Lifo, working from home or other non-traditional millennial jobs like Etsy and Ebay… there is no shame in honest hard work. If creating or working (land rentals) in Second Life pays your bills and puts food on the table then its a real job.

        Sincerely,
        A Designer

      • @ observer. If You are entertained by my “ rage “ ? Then why did you tell me to stop lmao I see what you’re doing though ,you’re trying to shame people ,for speaking out on you guys making a mockery out of fundraising, , guilt trip them for not being sympathetic enough , all that stuff you groupies get off on.

      • Vicks, I have not one clue what is going on in terms of the woman who is requesting funding, you’d need to read my original comment to keep on top of your debate. When you do, you will note that everything you just said is sort of well … go read it then decide.

        ‘Groupies’ are the person’s friends who naturally, because they’re Human and like said person as a friend are defending them, basic stuff. But you on the other hand are raging throughout the entire chat log hammering into anyone who doesn’t agree.

        The question I asked was why? You haven’t even donated so is there any reason you’re going off on one? Not everybody handles things the way that you do so why are you belittling those who do it differently? Hence, the raging puppy biting the hand that tries to calm them.

      • Observer. Come on you love my rage. That’s why you keep coming back for more . Anyway back to scamming , Not everyone works in real life and scams people on sl you And i see you’re in full support of that. I wonder why that is . ?And i do read the whole thread and to me you sound like a fan girl getting her panties in a twist ,when their fave celebrity is being called out on yet another scam . Come back for more rage ( facts ) whenever you want.

      • @adesigner if you say so. I just can’t imagine a real designer those of Valentino, Versace, Gucci and so on sitting on pinterest for inspiration. Real designers create from passion, and emotion. Its an art form. Maybe inspired from a fabric but certainly not grabbing something off of net-a-porter and making it into mesh and saying u designed it. You meshed it..not designed it. and i don’t mean you or your brand im just speaking in general. There is a definite differences.

      • Hello Vicks,

        My panties are awesome! Do you want to donate, I could do with some more. Yours … they appear to be twisted, wrapped and near suffocating you in your rampage to demonize someone over the internet.

        Like I said before … http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/0rWjyj9.gif

  36. not to mention olive is in epiphany.. a gacha event with like 3 gachas out I think, even one would make bank at that event. don’t tell me she’s not making money there that can be used for expenses.

    • participating in event itself does not mean ” she ” makes money
      designers are usually in a lot events to increase the chance to get some

      it is very common that items wont sell well.

      but that’s you will never ever know. so you just judge it from the surface, which is poor.

      • LOL oh this is good. Now designers are not even making money at events. God help you guys. If that is actually the case. Go get a real life job. It is not our problem that none of you want to work real life.

      • anyway how do you know that all people work only in sl, what if they have multiple jobs ( like me ?)

        again you know nothing

        what would you do if all sl creators would leave – your precious avi would have nothing to wear else you would have nothing to look at.

        think.

      • If just all designers with an over inflated ego could leave SL . That would be great. Amazing idea!

      • thats BS.. if they werent making money they wouldnt stay in the events. why do you think most of the events never have new people unless they are brand revampers? Because they are mostly greedy asses. I mean c’mon

      • @vicks – I’m still waiting for your answer about comparing sl job to rl job. Got no arguments left ?

        WE ALL are on the same boat. I have never ever said being sl designer is fucking special job and puts you above other people .. I just think it was my choice and it is basically like any freelance job in the world, it has its errors and wins / as EVERY other job.. I like creating / art , it is my life, being my own boss is very uplifting and it has a lot negatives as well.
        I have never whined about working in sl, because it was my CHOICE , I whined about my own mental illness being bitch and not letting me work as I used to ( and as you might understand it doesnt matter if I work in SL or RL, because it attacks you both ways). Everyone just deserves their respect no matter they are shop assistants, doctors, 3d designers or plumbers.

        But you don’t even know me in person and you call me over inflated ego designer ? How daring is this.

        But honestly what’s moving with my guts are those mind concepts like
        ” she’s in events so she makes tons of money, she will slap texture on it and bye”.

        Person who wrote this probably never sold anything in events, because no matter how well does it look it never makes you sure people will actually will buy it, we are in time when market is full and everything has been made.

        SL secrets show only those fails from designers, then you see everything is wrong and everyone must be lazy scam, copying work . I know a lot designers personally , dare to say they belong under the best in sl.
        They work their ass off, to bring you endless choices to dress up your av / furnish your home.

        Adios.

    • Trust me. Funerals are extremely expensive. Especially when the death is unexpected. Funerals are usually in excess of 7 to 10 thousand dollars. Maybe you all should have some compassion.

      • they are expensive as fuck.. so buying a bag was for what?? to put in the casket? dumbass

      • @ Vulcan

        You’re asking for too much from these lot. You’re apparently a dumbass for pointing out the price of a funeral. Of course, everyone knows personally that this woman has bought a bag, they were with her when it was purchased. Oh and let’s not forget, she posted her interest in it online (if it even was her) so therefore it must be true.

      • Not when there isn’t an actual funeral and one gets cremated, the expenses are actually quite low(also why it’s a popular choice these days). I am cremating my own mother this week, and spent a few weeks researching places when we knew the end was near, like a responsible adult. The expenses we can’t cover out of pocket, like medical care and bills, we will simply have to find a way to manage, again, like responsible adults. When one has cancer that is this advanced and aggressive, there is no unexpected anything involved, it’s expected, period. The load of shite she has poured upon people about the expenses, is precisely that, shite.

      • And she is still actually spending money and flaunting about it on Plurk.
        She has zero shame and probably thinks it’s fucking hilarious that idiots on Second Life are funding her fun money.

  37. I hope all you cruel fucks will finally shut up and feel awful once the funeral receipt is shown.

    • Now that is too fucking funny a funeral receipt yeah like lets see her pull that one outta her ass SERIOUSLY because God Forbid Rose is the ONLY person EVER to lose a parent ~ if she is intelligent enough to have a store in SL am sure you can bet your paycheck she can figure out a way like taking some of her hard earned monies in SL and start making pymnts on a funeral bill like most people are forced to do because your right funerals are expensive and no one that I know has 5K just sitting to plunk down on that type of expenditure I know that I didn’t and I was not about to put a sign out on my desk asking for handouts to help with my Mothers’ expenses because basically that is what ROSE is doing ~ sorry if you think am rude, have no compassion I don’t care because it comes down to this PERSON will take your money and go to Disney World or whatever just like she did with that last fundraiser ~

  38. (28) Verinne isn’t daft like Averylust, I don’t know her personally but I’m certain she must be so fucking fed up of Avery going on …and on … and on… I am 80% sure that this post is in fact from Averylust, it’s what she does, she’s mental. I’d say, go find out for yourself but I’m not that cruel, just ask anyone in the blogging world of SL and if in the know, they will update you. (Queue all the friends putting the thumbs down vote ‘but she’s sorry! She’s so nice!’ .. uhu)

    On the other hand, I’m thinking it’s a follower who has put two and two together and thought ‘wtf is this woman up to? Why take a look from another person and copy?’ It’s a bit like those creators who rip off other Artists and sell their shit as their own designs. ‘But Verinne blogs what she wears!’ True, but there is this thing called ‘being creative’ and she doesn’t blog her own custom shape which, Bento these days gotta love it.

    If you are reading this Verinne, I don’t follow your blog but am a Flickr fan and I know of the shitstorm Averylust put you through. That and I know she’s mental. Your latest avatar looks lovely, very nicely done and I have to disagree with the original post. Avery looks nothing like your avatar now or well, since you changed it last Autumn. She’s trying but failing horribly. Continue on and ignore.

    ———-
    To everyone loosing their minds about this person who lost their mother. Rather than post on a gossip website, if you are 100% certain that you’ve been scammed and I mean, solid evidence that she is in fact rolling around in your donated Lindins or Dollars. NOT ‘my friend said’ or ‘But I seen this post last week’. Contact the site used to fund the money and speak with one of the Administrators, present your evidence of foul play and take it from there. Admins of these sites aren’t stupid, they will tell you what documents you will need as will Paypal.

    On the other hand, you’ve offered to help and if that help includes her buying a real or mesh bag, that’s her decision and unless you’ve got a crystal ball to know that she is spending ‘your’ donated funeral money, take a back seat. Blasting it around virtual-secrets will do what exactly? Make you feel better? Try to raise awareness? What is it that you want to gain from this stunt —- to make her feel bad ? No really, I’m curious if you can all explain without using some derogatory choice words.

    If sincere, her mother has died and thus the worst has already happened to her, your comments will be a fart in the wind to this person. But at least you will know she’s got a nice new bag to help with the heart ripping loss of her mother, you should be pleased, it gives her a slither of happiness.

      • Thank you, Lmao. I can see from this week’s posts you’ve got your work cut out for you! Try not to get too involved in everything, people will always have their own opinions and this is a gossip site after all whereby 50% is just all hearsay! Continue as you’re doing, being a friend, like I said before if the woman has lost her mother all this SL gossip will be utter nonsense and irrelevant to her.

        Take Care

    • Awwwww Verinne not getting any attention now you came back to sl? so you had to post a secret ( or get a friend to do it) and leave a comment on it just to get some? so funny, you are a nasty toxic waste of pixels and we didn’t even miss you!

      funny how there was nothing about you for months now you come back and its time to bash avery to shine a light on you, the girl has a similar style, so what, its not like your look is original ether!

      still thanx for making me laugh this week, your desperate attempt for attention really made me chuckle

      • Paranoia is strong with this one. I’m not Verinne, no though I do wish her the best. Woman must have the patience of a saint dealing with Averylust and well, her fans!

      • well not an avery “fan” never even met her. Deny it all you like but we know its you. nasty self riotous bitch, always someone out to get you, someones crazy, someone else in the wrong while you paint your self to be so supportive and upstanding, so funny though since we all know the vile cunt you really are <3

        i'm done now. im gonna go eat a cookie!

      • Hrmm.. You have some serious rage too, going to assume that you are Averylust, her fan, her friend or you just don’t like Verinne! I mean all are fine I suppose, do what you wish with your time. If you believe that because I posted my opinion, I am in fact Verinne then should I start guessing who you are too? You denied being a fan… but I don’t know you are acting very strongly about it so I’m going to say…

        “Deny it all you like but we know its you. nasty self riotous bitch, always someone out to get you, someones crazy, someone else in the wrong while you paint your self to be so supportive and upstanding, so funny though since we all know the vile cunt you really are <3"

        See how weird it is when you assume, PS if you look through the SL Secrets you will see that Verinne posts using her own username!

    • I don’t actually believe you know the situation that well if you’re saying this. Verinne is the one who is obsessed with Avery which was proven when she attacked mutual friends they have for being friends with her. She even treated Considerably Oridinary like shit for wanting to move on as seen in this post; https://www.plurk.com/p/mjr2m4. Then you have Verinne still stalking Avery around by going on her alt Hiatus to Avery’s RP sims after Verinne returned.

      Neither is Verinne original. Her alt she used to partner herself copied a basic thing on Avery’s page and her blog name? It was ripped off of a lesser SL blog that had Kitsune Tsuki since 2015.

      I’ve spoken briefly with Avery, never wanted to delve into that bond, but I also avoided the fuck out of Verinne considering she’s still butt hurt after two years of having an old SL avatar shape taken.

      Being truthful. Verinne ain’t original because she wasn’t the original white haired kitsune like she claims, just because she’s a blogger doesn’t mean she can claim a look. Avery looks like every other white haired girl. Neither of them original. But at least Avery is the one trying to move on, maybe Verinne should take a page out of her book instead of targeting mutual friends and abusing the fuck out of them for talking to her.

      They’re both old news. How about everyone move on.

      And if this was posted by Avery, I’m sure the admins would know because they have the IP addresses.

      • Hey there @ This shit is still going? says

        Your username is the first reaction that I had, ‘Is this still going on’. Verinne v Avery and Avery v Verinne. You’re correct, I am not 100% aware of the situation, I’m posting based on what I know Verinne went through and what friends, non friends have said to me about Averylust dating back 3 years or so, my own interaction too brief as it was. I do fully believe however, there are two sides to every story. I know what Verinne went through because a friend who reads her blog updated me about the copying when it first come out, that combined with the Considerably Oridinary being copied too and her blog entry, something you just forget about naturally as time drifts on. You’re coming with the other side from Avery’s point of view or just someone who knows.

        I also agree with you, they should move on and enjoy SL for what it is. I’ve no clue who posted the picture, it’s just my guess, though in the past I have seen virtual-secrets with her involved and comments along the lines of ‘Avery has posted this’ hence the guess. 50/50 one of them, a follower, who knows.

        There was a reason for me speaking outward to Verinne, it’s going to be very clear that another post involving the two has been posted and so it starts all over again, so I want her to continue and ignore. I’m a Flickr follower and her photography is well done, it would be a shame if this post on SL Secrets causes yet another tiresome drama train for her, them both. Whilst I might not like Averylust, I’m not wishing her hell or the like

        Though, I’m pleased to have a nice debate about it as opposed to the prior aggressive one, I’ll thank you for clarifying that I’m not Verinne to old Buttface rage up there!

      • ^ Forgot to say, thanks for the link. Certainly opens up a few more questions!

      • You are right, this shit is still going on. Also if you look up when the pictures where posted on flickr, it is clear that avery(?) posted her pictures before verinne did. Month before. Also it is pointless to harbor such hatred and drama because of a look that is in no way unique and also was never unique before. If they do hate each other they can just mute each other or have like little fights in IM. But doing it in this way just destroys both images. I mean seeing them bitching like this just want me to never talk to any of them ever or having to do anything with either of both.

    • Honestly, I don’t care about the Verinne and Avery drama. It’s old news. But this is kinda feeble even by it’s standards. The only “copying” I can possibly see is that both own a popular pair of bento ears and occasionally dress in all white. Other than that, there aren’t a lot of similarities. I have seen Verinne’s shape in world while shopping at [CX]. I have seen Avery’s shape on several RP sims from Mhirdrun to now. I’ve even personally helped her work on it. They are completely different. The oufits are different too. This is kinda just stupid in my opinion. Now if Avery had an exact carbon copy of Verinne down to the shape somewhere on social media, I would agree with this post, but as it stands, I’m pretty sure all parties involved just want this stupid drama to die.

      • as i said at the start, its all just Verinne posting a secret to get some attention DUH!!! oh and then following it up with comments. ;p everyone is over it! i just think its funny

  39. 10. I’ve seldom played as my true race on SecondLife as I knew I’d either be treated as a stereotype or ignored all together. I often wondered (and been told) it was me ‘playing the race card’ because I believed blacks on SecondLife were treated differently than others on the game. It’s interesting to go to popular hangouts knowing many of its users are also the same way. I guess I wasn’t wrong after all.

  40. 25) Now, I haven’t actually tried any of Strawberry’s shapes, but given that around 99% of shapes in SL have far too short arms and ridiculously hyper cute faces with tiny noses, it is sounding like hers might just be a bit more realistic than most other shapes.

    • I haven’t tried her shapes either because I make my own. I’m a bit curious now though. Most shapes I’ve demoed have been by people with no idea how basic proportion works and who never bothered to look at their head from the side.

  41. #5
    i agree. go elsewhere.

    HE steals information from other peoples plans while on voice, then tells everyone else they attempted to steal his.
    happened to my friend who used to be good friends with him. he used to charge 500, but then asked my friend about her plans and tuition fees, which was going to be 350 and then banned her. She even had plans to do a middle school connected with his school, but no. Thanks to him, her school plans ended. she said, and i quote “if thats how owners are supposed to be – petty- then i dont want to be a part of it”

    I quit after getting harassed by his family because i lost internet during class. ONCE.

    • Yup! hes BS. he messaged me one day and asked to talk on voice, we talked about my plans for a high school, which to save conflict i decided to switch to middle school. he offered to help with the sports part of school and invited me over for help. which i took. he asked me who my teachers would be, how much they would be paid, who was building the school, how much tuition was going to be, my school mascot, my school colors, my school uniform. he asked everything on voice. i however didnt ask a thing. was ejected from his sim weeks later while visiting a friend and he told his daughter (who invited me) that i was supposed to be banned for asking “too many questions” about his school (which never happened). he ruined his daughters friendship with me over something so petty.

      Before i met him again after years of not talking, I had already built my school. yes, me. i hand made it myself.
      small school, 8 classrooms, 1 library, 1 computer room, a gym with 2 dressing rooms, office, nurses center, and a lunch room. i had 6 teachers and a nurse already set up. mascot, name, everything was set besides a couple teachers and the sim.
      which i had already built in the sky ready to be set up on a new sim my partner at the time and i were going to get.
      i invited him to see the set up, with the gated entrance and all. he said he loved it.

      now its been around 2-3 years since i was banned (and still am) and still haven’t set up a school… and probably will never.
      because why would i want to end up like him? jealous, paranoid, petty.
      maybe one day, but for now? i have other plans.

  42. Wow! Y’all are a salty bunch of asshats this week!

    a) if you don’t like something, don’t buy it? Or better yet, learn how to make what you want, and then you can ride your creation-horse into the sunset of eternal glory.

    b) If people want to support a friend, regardless of the format, let them support it? The best thing about these types of fundraisers is that people get THINGS in return, because they are buying things. It’s up to the creators if they choose to donate that money.

    c) Derender. Mute. Ban. Block. Best things in SL. If you don’t like somebody, don’t stick your dick in her/him/them?

  43. A young woman’s MOTHER DIED. No one is forcing any of you whining people to shop the event, an event she had no idea her friends were organizing.

    My god, is there NO compassion left in this fucked up world? Seriously.

    If you haven’t lost a parent yet, I sincerely hope that when you do people are kinder to you than you’re being. If you have, you should know better.

    Don’t like the idea that there’s a fundraiser? Here’s a genius idea. DON’T GO THERE and STFU.

    • No ones not feeling for Rose ,as almost everyone has lost a family member. And we can turn on the news and see people suffering financially everyday But if we all turned to other people ( strangers ) tonpay for our family’s funeral ,this type of fundraising would quickly become a thing of the past.

      • So you see that on the news but pretty sure you don’t do anything about it. ?

      • @ lmao. What’s your point ?as you for sure know nothing of what i do and for who. So pipe down. But being gullible to pay towards scam events is for sure one thing i will never do lol Fundraising is becoming a joke because of these types of scams.

      • @Vick – same as how you don’t know anything about the Olive owner so you look like a hypocrite here. Like I said, as her for more information if it fucking bothers you. Jesus.

      • @ lmao i know she’s okay with all her personal business being out here and i know she doesn’t value her stores name by dragging it through this type of scam. Stop the pity party. We all need to go work in real life as we all have tragedies happen that we need to responsible for. If everyone pulled one of these fundraising scams to pay for stuff we can’t. There wouldn’t be anyone taking fundraising seriously anymore.

      • Except she doesn’t have a car to take her to jobs.

        “She can learn how to drive and buy a car” Yeah, yeah. The first one, sure. But buying another car costs thousands.

        As for public transportation, there isn’t a lot of it where she lives so they aren’t exactly convenient and reliable.

        “What about Uber and Lyft?” Hah, spare me. No.

      • @lmao and how many people do you think is in a simular situation? All around the world people are with out transport and they are still able to work. Having a car is a luxury where i am from. So to use your argument, people who does not have transport ,their only option is to sit and beg on SL Really LOL ? You should really do some research into what people go through, to make a living for themselves and their family. You sound extremely gullible, to believe that setting up a fundraiser is the only way to pay for a funeral. Stop making fundraising into this first option solution , that everyone can jump on when ever we are in need. We are all in need in some point of our lives. Time to take responsibility for our own circumstances.

      • I just don’t understand why you’re so hell bent about what people do for others in SL in help them out.

        Like, who hurt you?

      • People get help all the time RL for things such as this.

        That’s what sites like GoFundMe are all about.

        People helping other people in times of need.

        Sure she makes money in SL, and does events, and buys bags. Who doesn’t. Like the rest of us, she is warning the living she can, and using it to live the life she can.

        When someone dies, that is an added expense. You may have hospital bills, and funeral costs, and headstone costs.
        It is actually not at all cheap when someone dies.

        Remember this, you’re attacking someone who is in the midst of some serious grief right now – over what?
        Being angry that people genuinely want to help her through a tough period?

        Do you behave like this towards people in your real life?

        What has this world come to.

        A bunch of nasty, venomous people, lacking sympathy, lacking manners, lacking humanity.

        Simply put, little salt shakers, if you don’t like the cause, don’t donate.

      • @lmao you need to learn how to read. I have repeatedly stated that you guys are making fundraising a joke. Just because something doesnt affect me personally , i still take an interest. Just like youtake an interest when it affects a well knows designer in sl. Grow up. Using fundraising as if its a cash cow with endless amounts of cash , on every types of situation, and then on top of it shaming people. saying that they do not have sympathy for Rose,which ofcourse everyone does. Can you sink any lower ?

      • You ruined the views of “fundraising” in SL yourself because you look way too deep into it and try hard to find flaws.

        That’s not their fault. That’s yours. Also you can keep on bitching about it all you want, complaining does nothing anyway.

      • @LMAO omg you have a fucking answer for everything.. So she can’t drive… no car… wont use Uber…maybe the $1.4K computer should have went to a car you silly bitch. The point of all this is that i feel bad that nice people try to help but helping scum who don’t want to try to better themselves instead standing with the hand out waiting on someone to do it for them. Ill never even shop there again..How many people do you think may have gave to her situation who could be in serious need themselves but go the karma route in hopes of little miracles for themselves. I wont even drink a martini with olives in it anymore.

      • @lmao Since you’re so informed on roses real life situation ,why don’t you show us some proof.? And no i will never donate to anything in sl. Because of possible scams like these. I donate to registered charities so i know what my money is being spend on. I wish that the kind ,but sadly gullible people who donated to roses “ situation “ ,would be able to have proof and receipts of what their money went on too. I mean it’s not the first time she’s been begging for handouts ,from the sl community .

      • @Lmao

        To quote you in response to someone not being agreeable to the whole fundraising thing:

        “That’s not their fault. That’s yours.”

        Kind of like it’s not anyone else’s fault this girl didn’t get a job? It’s not anyone else’s fault that she’s not in a financial situation to pay for emergencies?

        You’re RIGHT. It’s NOT ANYONE ELSE’S FAULT.

        So why the fuck is there a fundraiser?

    • Yeah well people die every damn day and you don’t see me running to the internet for help. Why should people of SL bail her family out for their poor choices? We shouldn’t … I’m sorry her mom died but both my parents died and guess what I didn’t run to the internet crying for help.

      • Fundraisers aren’t just for SL, they happen everywhere in life.

        Your life, your choices, if you didn’t ask for help – don’t get your panties bunched up when someone else does ask for help and gets it.

      • P.s it wasn’t a “poor choice” that her mother died.

        Their family doesn’t make poor choices, they are just regular everyday people, who live the lives or regular everyday people – lives that people all over the world lead.

      • True. Also who the fuck has a fund raiser any time something happens? I’ve lived my whole life without one. Ive also learned that if its a ‘want’ i dont ‘need’ it

  44. About Olive event, I 100% agree. Its ugly, its bad. I know designers who really need help, lost their home and shit that are not doing that. Shes alredy making money in SL, I wish I could make some to help my RL family. Please stop using your mothers death you greedy person.

    • Thank you for speaking up because what makes her so special that she needs this fundraiser ~ seriously let’s consider these facts to the ones that are sticking up for this pathetic person ~ you are in SL by choice we all agree on that ~ having a store whether it is on Marketplace which the costs are so so to have a inworld store that asking around is not a cheap thing ~ you find out that your parent passes hmmm ok now I have known a couple store owners this exact thing has taken place did they run around getting a fundraiser going no they sent out a notice stating due to RL commitments and financial obligations they would be closing their store to take care of RL stuff ~ but a lot of what am hearing is shame on us for standing up to another fundraiser for someone years ago that took advantage of the kindness of people yet again crying poor me that I should not speak up ~ HELLO wake up people and yes I have a lot of compassion for those that need it and deserve it SHE DOESN’T and yes again will say I have held yard sales, taken 2 jobs, given up my place to help out a parent so do not come back at me saying I have no compassion because I will just tell you to go fuck yourself

  45. Anyone else find it weird that she’s also asking for clothing donations? Like what does a family members death have to do with you needing clothes?

    • I find this whole concept weird and embarrassing. Her friends on here is spilling out all of her personal business so she can pay for something the rest of us pay out of our hard earned money , but her friends wants us to believe that Rose is in a worse situation than any other sl resident.Who’s these immoral idiots. But Designers and their groupies go hard when it comes to getting people to pity them. . I got to give them that.

    • you would think that after the last time they “almost” got evicted, she suddenly had a new pc just a few weeks later… people seem to forget that shit. Wtf you need clothes for? What do you do all day? You have a pretty successful store in world, do you not help with bills? Oh, I forgot you go on shopping sprees. Let’s not forget her including “her large family of brothers and sisters, her nieces and nephews” why isn’t your family helping out? Instead she leeches off the kindness(gullible is more like it) way of people in SL. It’s really, really sad.

  46. Okay, time to pull out some actual facts.

    #7 – She posted that on 1/30/18. Four days before her event opened. Chances are she used a little bit of her SL income to treat herself some things. Everyone grieves differently. This was her way of distraction.

    Also if y’all understood her family financial situation, they’re don’t carry an average annual income. They were almost near poverty and got evicted out of their homes. It’s not like she expected her mother was going to die. Y’all are being heartless fucks by making secrets like this.

    She never asked to have this event made. Her friends put it together themselves because if you knew the Olive owner, she’s the most kind hearted person out there who seriously deserves better. She’s loved by many. They did this to help her out.

    Lastly, no one is forcing you to shop at the event. You don’t have to even go there at all. Try to have a little compassion, you heartless piece of shits.

    With that said, fuck you very much.

    • The event might of just opened but that funding page has been open since her mothers passing and now is up over 1k USD donated. So your dates mean fuck all. Step down.

      • And grown ass people live there, why can’t they get jobs like the rest of us?

      • Her father keeps the money of the funding page, not her. So your comment is irrelevant.

    • You sure are an aggressive lot you groupies. lmao . Imagine if everyone in sl would set up afundraiser for a real life funeral,then this would quickly become anything of the past. So enjoy this scam while you can.

      • Why don’t you personally talk to the Olive owner yourself if it bothers you so much? She would actually have no problem explaining it to you politely, coward.

    • I meaaaan.. I’m sure she is lovely. But she’s also a huge space cadet. Half the time doesn’t recognise her own creations when someone blogs it. And talks as if she’s high as a kite when commenting.
      And sure, her friends created this event.
      But only cause she’s a creator.
      As is majority of the people who are doing the event.
      If it was just a average SL person reaching out.
      Noone would give 2 shits because (aside from a few) there are alot of designers/creators out there that won’t want a bar of anyone unless you’re a creator too.

      She can grieve however she feels necessary. But she’s done all this after opening a gofundme that got her an average 1k.
      If she can afford all this with her SL creation money.. Why is she not using it towards the funeral as she stated she couldn’t afford?

      I’d hate to ever be in her place. But I personally would think my mother’s funeral was more important that temporary shit from a store.

      • Oh trust me, she’s using the remaining of her SL income to pay for her house bills and helps her dad with rent.

      • Well… Once again.. Don’t you think the money she spent on all that stuff is better spent on the bills and rent she so call needs to fund??

        “I need money for bills and rent etc.. But I still need a fucking dior bag to feel better.”
        Nah.. Don’t work that way.
        You want out of poverty as so many people say she is in??
        Pay.your.bills. Not go on a shopping spree.

        Y’all tell yourself whatever you want about what she’s doing with the money. The photos she’s spamming is evidence enough.

        “lmao”

      • As if you’ve never bought anything to treat yourself before. Please.

        God help you if she buys candy and you throw another fit. ? All this bitching is ridiculous.

        Literally no one is forcing you to give her money.

      • I’m not dumb enough to buy into the “one income family while I buy designer bags” bullshit.
        Candy and designer bags are different.

        I’ve treated myself. But never at a time when I needed it for something more serious. I had a serious situation with my mum last year. I didn’t go running to SL begging for money.
        In fact I took time off work and lost out on money. But I dealt. Everyone copes differently. But her way of coping is just making a fool out of those that want to genuinely help.

        Keep defending her. She won’t even appreciate it. And you just keep looking like a fool.

      • First of all, it’s not a designer bag. It’s a small bag you can literally buy the same at Hot Topic. They sell it there. Please get your facts straight rather than trying to zoom in on the tiny picture of it on the secret.

        Everyone grieves differently. Maybe she needed to buy something to make her feel happy for AT LEAST A MINUTE because she’s going through the worst thing her and her family ever have to deal with. If anyone’s looking like a fool here, it’s you. Because you just seemed like you can’t even understand that everyone grieves differently.

      • With that said, I’m gonna keep myself off this site unlike y’all and head to church. At least we head downtown every week to help the unfortunate. UNLIKE Y’ALL SITTING HERE REFRESHING EVERY HOUR preaching about those who are homeless and less fortunate. Smh

  47. 2. There is a little option called “derender,” I’d suggest using it. Hell if you are that pissed about it you can even use the “derender and blacklist” option which may help relieve some of your unnecessary anger. The second option would be to use a Note Card and make a suggestion to the sim owner as they’d be more likely to get the tip in their inbox rather than on here.

    3. Maybe try trusting Zann more?

    5. 295 – 210.99 is 84.01. The sim owner pays 84.01 of his own money for the sim. If you don’t like the way he manages his rules, stop teleporting there…. pretty simple.

    7/15/16/19. A woman’s mother died. I’d suspect the designers that held the fundraiser for Olive did so in an effort to help alleviate the stress and sadness during this horrible time. If buying a purse gives her a flicker of happiness, then so be it. If you are that caddy and cannot comprehend the financial burden of loosing a loved one, coupled with the crippling depression, then don’t shop at the event. Problem solved.

    10. I’d like to thank this person for announcing on their profile that they are a racist. A quick profile perv will show they are not worth the time….or the oxygen they breathe.

    11. 2600 people obviously don’t care. Why do you care how someone else runs their flickr account?

    14. SL Secrets crack me up. In one breath people yell that the events are only accepting well known designers and in the second breath they trash anyone that is unknown/less known and trying to make a name for themselves. PS: I have several of the clocks and the dolls, and both gachas are really freaking nice IMO. If you don’t like the items, don’t play the gacha. Problem Solved.

    27. Looks like this narcissist is heading to Trompe, thanks!

    28. Seriously? LMAO. Why on earth would it concern you what someone else looks like or wears? If someone doesn’t want another person to mirror their image…. how about not blogging the top secret information. LOL

  48. Every time i read “desperate and insecure hos” i feel embarrassed.

    Cultivate your minds, please.

    #Sorority

    Hugs, Jani.

  49. 1- ChatterBox???????????????????????????????
    What the fuck is that shit?

    :O

    I play sl since 2009 and I never heard about it…
    What is that for? O.o

  50. #15
    Has anyone ever published a receipt for any of these personal fundraising events in SL?

    Book of David (I think it was called)
    Someone’s going blind
    Someone’s had a heart attack
    Someone’s got cancer
    Someone’s losing their home

    Personally I won’t buy or donate to any ‘charity’ on SL unless it’s a link directed to an official charity page.
    Not a Go fund me page for Sheila and her eleven toed third cousin.

    • Not Sheila and her 11 toed cousin!!!! That cracked me up!!!!

    • It was Book of Daniel and no receipts were every shown were they Keon & Neva??

    • “Someone’s going blind”

      He certainly did go blind.

      Blind drunk on the trip to Bali that he took his family on thanks to all the poor dumb fucks he sucked into his deceit!!

      *boom tiss*

    • And they probably will NEVER post a receipt as all the of registered Charity events you can find legitimate letters with the image of the check sent, with the charity sending a letter of thank you ~ Race for Life is basically the one charity that I will donate to

  51. I don’t know this Olive/Rose whatever person, but I don’t really understand the secrets. So what if she bought a bag? Maybe she bought it on Poshmark, maybe it was something she had already been saving for?

    I don’t understand why the SL community rallying together to help someone in a time of need is something to put up a secret for. I feel like in SL with SL secrets, you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    There’s the whole racism/Scandalize thing, which I get. There’s secrets about cheaters, copybotters, etc. But you’re going to complain that stores are trying to help a real human being pay for her mom’s funeral?

    I didn’t see any secrets when there was a blogger asking for assistance/donations for her cats medical bills. I didn’t see any uproar about it when she posted every single day about her cats issues despite the fact that she comes from a two income household and is a grown ass woman. It’s the same story. If someone needs help, then HELP THEM if you CAN/WANT. If you don’t, shut up about it already.

    I don’t get it. I don’t understand why her buying a purse suddenly means she doesn’t need assistance with her mom’s funeral. If she has given so much as a creator to the SL community by way of providing her 3d art for you to wear on your heads, why shouldn’t this be a thing? And why can’t someone buy a god damn purse without being judged for doing something for themselves? That doesn’t mean she doesn’t still need help. Could it have gone towards funeral costs? Yes. But again, you don’t know her life, and just because she wanted to do something nice for herself doesn’t mean anything in regards to her mother’s death.

    Do people not realize how expensive funerals are? Some people genuinely need help. If my parents were to drop dead, I’d be SOL right now. I barely make ends meet as it is. But I do try to treat myself. Would I be lynched for asking for help with that when I went to a store yesterday and bought a pair of $98 jeans from express? Damn. Also, “thousands of lindens a month” doesn’t exactly translate to “I’M RICH BITCH” in RL. $5k is barely 20 bucks. If you were making minimum wage, you’d make roughly $1400 pre tax in RL a month (depending on your state’s minimum wage of course). Do you really think a hair store is pulling that? And even if she is, that would be BARE BONES minimum in order to live. Feed yourself, clothe yourself, transportation, etc. Do you people have no concept of that? Or do most of you live with your parents so you have no concept of what it means to pay a rent, or a mortgage, on top of other bills? Most Americans, anyway, live paycheck to paycheck. Extra funds are a luxury. And most Americans, especially at her age, because of student loans and other shit, are up to their fucking eyeballs in debt.

    Why do you think she would have a random 5-10k just sitting around?

    You people are so fucking judgmental.

    I just don’t get it.

    Be kind to each other, for fuck’s sake. Nobody makes it out of here alive. Why be a nasty ass douchebag to someone you don’t even know when you could just keep your mouth shut? You’re gonna end up under the dirt someday just like everyone else.

      • LOL @ ‘ya dumb fuck’

        It wasn’t specified, and also, MOST SL creators don’t make “Thousands of real life dollars,” honestly think about how much $L that translates to.

        Also, has anyone else figured out yet that every time you give money to a creator in an exchange for an item in SL, it doesn’t mean shit as far as what they get to spend it on….

        Is this a new concept to people? That’s like me going to a hair salon, getting my hair done, paying my stylist but then saying, “you can ONLY use this money for groceries.”

        That’s not how life works.

        If she is in fact swindling people under false pretenses then by all means, have at it and lynch the girl. But let’s also try to be reasonable and not complete idiots… to quote you, ‘ya dumb fuck.’

      • I feel like you have a really shitty understanding of what creators actually make a month in SL.

        100k Linden is $L400 before LL takes out their insane fees. To even make that you have to sell about 300 items at $L250. Do you know how many hairs you have to sell to make thousands of RL dollars.

        Pretty sure the dumb fuck here is you.

        I agree with the original poster. What a way to try and tarnish amazing people who came together for their friend.

        These secrets cant ruin that.

    • Everyone got real life problems , should we all come to SL to get people to pay for them.? There’s something called morals , I don’t know if you’ve heard about it ?

      • Of course everyone has real life problems. That’s why you see GoFundMe pages rampant in the world today. That’s why that website even exists.

        There are people who have morals, and there are also people with morals who also happen to be do-gooders, who just want to spread the love, and the wealth (what little they may have) and do something nice for other people.

        If you don’t want to, no one is holding a gun to your head, so why are you taking the time to complain about the people who genuinely want to help?

        That’s the part I don’t get. If you don’t like it, don’t go to that event, don’t purchase her items. It’s actually a very simple concept.

      • Trust me i won’t be going to that event. I will also boycott her store. As i know what’s going on. But there will be many visitors, to this event who’ll not be aware ,of what this money is for. Tell me why these designers can’t show receipts of what the proceeds goes to ? There’s air that need to be let out if these designers over inflated egos . They are whining about how they work so hard ,but it appears to me they don’t work hard enough, if they need to set up bogus events like this. Maybe a real life and a real life job would put this more in perspective for them .

      • you’re an idiot if you don’t think olive is making over 100k a month. they are in plenty of events and sell their hair for over 250. so I’m sure they are making more than enough. and this is coming from a designer.. and I do fairly well and am not as well known. I make 100k a month so I’m positive olive is making way more. and even as a less popular store, I’d rather have my own sales than allow my friends to create a fundraiser for me.. especially considering she already has a gofundme page. sounds like someone is just money hungry.

        don’t get me wrong it’s sad that someone died but I don’t think it’s necessary to have 10,000 fundraisers for it, when they can simply have a sale.

        also, people in general need to stop with the gofundme bullshit. everyone has issues, stop begging for handouts.

    • People need to get their facts straight. SHE did NOT start the fundraising event for herself. A couple of her friends arranged it for her. SHE DIDN’T ASK FOR THE FUNDRAISER EVENT. Also her friends took her shopping with them and no money from the gofundme or the fundraiser was used. The fundraiser just opened yesterday and money is going to a separate account so that it is accounted for and not her personal second life account.

      • So she should probably shut down this fundraiser her friends “ forced” upon her .As this reflects extremely poorly on her.

      • There’s only ONE gofundme, not two. The money from the gofundme is not even going to her, but to her DAD. And the FOR ROSE event just opened today,and again, the funds have not even been TOUCHED, so nice try on your part. Please link them both is there is two. Also she didn’t BUY a designer bag, she asked a question about them for the future? Again, her friends took her out.

      • She linked one on FB made by her aunt (?? I think?) and one on SL/PLURK made by her. I’m mobile so can’t find the links. Look em up.

      • there are 2 separate fundraisers… i would link them but i don’t want her info all over. one is by her aunt and it seems that one is the one that was posted for RL and then rose has a separate page where SL people have donated. both are 4 the same amount. odd. does her family know about her separate one?

    • She is swindling people under false pretenses. It states on her donation page that the money will go towards her moms medical bills and funeral expenses….. but yet she is now saying it’s for bill money and so they can have some money.

    • Funny you say you don’t know anything about these designers or events but you’re very familiar with how much money they earn. If all you’re doing for Rose is so squeaky clean , why are you getting so defensive? and is it pot for your designer buddy’s to deliver the receipts ?

    • You don’t get it because you don’t know the shit she’s pulled in the past. She lives at home with her parents and siblings, all grown. None of them work real jobs. If your SL shit doesn’t pull in enough to support your ass, guess what cupcake? Time to get a job in the real world, like most living breathing adults. Insteadddd this little peach, cries to her friends about how broke she is ALL the time. So the natural order of things because most people DO have compassion HEY LETS DO A FUNDRAISER AND A GOFUCKEVERYONESWALLET-ATHON. While she sits back twiddling her thumbs, shopping and buying shit.

      Do you get it now?

      • No because what you just said isn’t any of what she does. Stop making ridiculous assumptions, you look crazy.

      • @ LMAO try telling that to her customers that may need redeliveries. Her customer service blows just like her spending habits.

      • Let that whole family use their EBT cards to buy her purse since they are all too damn lazy to work. Entitled twats!

    • And again I know how expensive funerals are but they can be cremated and save $$$ . And why is it my job to bail her out because a parent died ? She’s numerously insulted my friends and talked shit about them. I’m not on second life to bail someone out when they have a problem especially when everyone in the world has a financial problem and people doe everyday!

  52. Verinne needs to quit acting like she invented the albino kitsune trend. She’s ugly as fuck anyways.

    • Agreed. I’ve never seen anyone in SL be so possessive over a TREND in my life – and it’s not even a RL trend! She has so much SL popularity but from the way I’ve seen her present herself in public situations she seems like the most wretched person. I do not understand how she has friends.

      • she was not even the first albino fox in sl, its laughable really, nasty hypocritical no talent troll she is. she does these secrets herself just to get attention, its dead funny really.

    • Hey, Avery. Bitter much? Stop being such a crazy cunt and going after Verinne. You’ve got problems, honey. Fix yourself before you wreck yourself.

  53. Well, that would be pretty silly to turn on auto return in BDC. Some people take longer than 5 minutes to take a quick snap plus using props as well as just a pose, how would that work? and even if she did put on auto correct you could still be waiting around for the autocorrect time before the items disappear so stop moaning and just take those extra steps to derender…

    • The thing about auto return is that when it’s something like a poseball or something that is being sat upon or is in use, it doesn’t get returned. So turning auto-return on for something like that would actually probably help. If you’re not using the item after 5-10 minutes, it should be returned.

  54. So now we’re getting sl residents to pay for our real life family’s funerals??oh and Wasn’t there an event that was set up to pay for someone’s real life health care bills ? Is this for real ? And will there be receipts ?

    • I dont know why people care about receipts like those can’t be whipped up on the net. I say we have a follow up show.. like what ever happened to Lexi and that fundraiser? i swear i heard this purse thing a long time ago maybe that was someone else. point is there are good people in the world.. this we see..but dont trust the internet.

  55. LMAO #24 wut

    someone got triggered by the winesmiths to make a shit entry like that? Why give them any kind of exposure at all. You know it’s what they want, and you just fed into it :\

  56. I was going to shop at FOR ROSE today but finding out she is buying fancy bags,she is sick. Pay your own bills like the rest of us. That is why we don’t have fancy bags, we didn’t beg. I even paid for a family members funeral costs because that is what adults do – they pay their bills.

  57. @ Backdrop city, every week there’s a new pointless and irrelevant secret about that place, it seems like the owner herself is trying to extendit’s 15 minutes of fame through the same channels that got that place famous to begin with.

    • i doubt its the owner.. i think it took the poster a little too long to jump on the bandwagon of bullshit..because we’ve already finished that topic

  58. #28. If you look at the uploads in flickr you may see its more the other way around. Because Verinne uploaded her picture (the white fox one) in january 2018 while the other girls pictures upload was in november 2017. So nice try, but face the fact that simply alot of people have this style nowadays. White hair is a freaking epedemic in second life and so are kitsunes. I could also name at least one other girl that is really good on flickr that looks like this and had this style before I ever heard of any of the others.

    #13 You complain about people being ugly on loseria but you use emojis in your post? Why don’t you just write it all in comic sans? I mean yes people might not have style in there, but you are not the one to talk.

    • Honestly neither of them really copied the other for #28. Aside from wearing the same (popular) ears, they both are just wearing all white with different shapes and different accessories in one of the pictures. The other is just completely different. Pretty sure this drama should die and people should stop dragging both of their names into it. I doubt either one of them want this shit going on anymore.

  59. If I see another fucking creator pull the woe-is-me shit when something in their life goes wrong, I’m going to lose my mind.

    There’s always an unspoken air about them and acting like they make oh so much money from their tireless slaving away to keep consumers happy, but then they pull this bullshit.

    Sorry about your dead mom. That sucks. But it’s also not my fucking problem, nor the problem of anyone else in Second Life. Same as when another creator’s cat was sick. Same as when another creator’s husband had cancer.

    And I know, I know. I don’t have to buy anything (and I won’t), it’s not unnatural for a community to rally together to support someone, etc etc. I get it. But as the secret/s have pointed out, to then go and buy a designer bag is completely fucking reprehensible.

    Fuck outta here with your pity party. Not my problem. Not our problem. And if you’re going to attempt to make it our problem, at least keep your act up for long enough to not make yourself seem like complete and utter scum.

    • Didn’t she do this once before, asked for money to “save her house” and then bought a new computer with the money? LAWLLLL. Yet people do this for her again and expect different results? Joke’s on all y’all then, I guess, isn’t it? Don’t get me wrong, it sucks but what did you expect? The funeral already happened so what exactly are you raising money for? Art supplies? Bags? Bath bombs? Tea or whatever hobby of the week she has? She’s laughing AT YOU all the way to the bank, fr.

    • OH no think my “mouse” died can someone throw me a fundraiser and sheesh my fish could really use a bigger tank oh btw am not a creator except in my mind with all my originals designs in my brain as hey dontcha know that most creators do not have original designs that one killed me so hmmm let me think from my mouse on the fritz, my fish needing a bigger tank and hey I could use a bigger monitor can anyone help me pulllease

  60. *slow claps for the four secrets about Rose* All you idiot creators jumping in to help her must have forgotten about the last time ya’ll raised money for her. Glad to see all the fundraising and super tight budget for her single income household is going to use. Feel stupid yet?

    • HER. MOTHER. JUST. DIED.

      I’d like to see you be near poverty and try to pay for your mother’s funeral. When you experienced that, come back and we’ll talk.

      • and this happens everyday ,out there in the real world. But a normal human being would not be on a game having the users of that game pay for the funeral arrangements. You can try to make this person, the only one in the world who has lost a family member, as much as you want.I am not falling for your crap. Everyone feels sorry when someone loses their loved ones, but that you are here playing on peoples sympathy is immoral and disgusting. It is ONLY because this is a well known store, that people are here going hard for her.

      • YES.I.KNOW.

        Real talk, it sucks when a parent dies.

        HOWEVER.

        She can’t be that close to poverty when she lives on SL, has a very very successful store, has enough money to pay for the internet, buy handbags and shit.

        Living in poverty/almost near it means having nothing.
        She has things, lots of them. And keeps buying them.

        Please don’t be so daft.

        I’m talking about priorities.

        When you hit the point of losing your home, several times, when do you decide to make a life change? When do you decide to grow up and become an adult?

        Her priorities are nil and always have been.

        As long as the community keeps running to her aid and dropping thousands of dollars on her to clean up, she doesn’t need to worry about being responsible.

      • You also seem to forget that SL is a huge community and if someone wants to help others, let them.

        I really don’t understand what y’all are trying to get out of here. Just because she bought a bag and toy figurines and those costs, what, $20? That’s fucking 5k in SL in which she probably had got it from her SL income being a hair creator.

        Y’all make being a hair creator is easy money when it’s actually not. It’s hard work and some hairs are a hit or miss and don’t provide a lot of lindens. Not everyone is rich in SL. Please get over yourselves.

      • @lmao i know , trying to make immoral people like yourself see sense is impossible. You are stuck on stupid and deep up designers buttholes. We have all seen it before. Fundraising and SL has unfortunately become a joke because of stunts like these .

      • Sorry you’re not as popular as she is, I suppose that’s why you’re so bitter. ?

      • @ LMAO u must be part of her unreliable team. i hope she waxes the vag ur lips are stuck to.

      • @ LMAO if she was popular for the RIGHT reasons.. this secret wouldnt even be here.

      • Poverty because that whole grown family is too lazy to work and on welfare. Frauds!

      • If. You. Are. Near. Poverty. You. Should. Probably. Get. A. Fucking. Real. Job.

        Like that’s the most retarded argument I’ve ever heard. Nobody is forcing her to not work so that she can keep making decent-at-best items in a videogame.

        This whole GoFundMe culture is the most disgusting thing ever. Y’all are a bunch of entitled fucksticks who for some reason deem that others should foot the bill for your misfortunes. God forbid, if my mom died tomorrow I wouldn’t turn to THE FUCKING INTERNET for assistance because IT’S NOT THEIR PROBLEM. I’d be too embarrassed to ask friends and family and strangers for help.

        But then again, I also have a REAL fucking job because I’m not living in some delusional fantasy world where Second Life can be a source of income. Near poverty? Maybe there are ways to FIX that. But no, I’d rather sit on my lazy ass and try to scrape out a meager living in a videogame rather than get a real job.

        AND THEN! When something bad happens to me, guess whose problem it is? EVERYONE’S! Isn’t this fun?

        Go Fund Me? Go Fuck Yourself.

      • Near poverty then maybe just maybe ask dear ole government for welfare or hmm guess she is on Food Stamps, Disability checks and whatever else she can be living on since she lives at home, is on SL creating whatever along with how many sisters, brothers, relatives are in this house too doing who knows what again I have no fucking patience on this pity party you are creating ~ OMG are you gonna lick and wipe her ass too ? Seems you are the ONLY one that is standing up for this bullshit ~ and again for the 10th time YES I lost a parent was alone did I run in here crying the blues nope took time off to get finances in order which is the adult thing to do so KISS my ass and go fuck yourself about all the crap HER MOM died YUP we have heard that from you over and over and over and SO WHAT ~ move on and go kiss her ass now

  61. I am so glad there were secrets made about the Rose event as well as the donation website. There are a few things I find very odd about this situation….

    The donation website says “All funds earned will go towards funereal costs and medical bills left from my mom.”

    Then someone makes an anonymous plurk in regards to this and in the comments of that plurk she says this:

    “i made a fund myself so we could pay bills and have some money, sorrythat some how ofends you”

    So which is it Rose? Because to me it looks like people have been donating under false pretenses. Thinking all this money is going towards bills and her funeral expenses yet you’re out here buying new bags, random knick-knacks, make-up, toys, and talking about wanting to start your designer bag collection.

    I really do not understand how other people aren’t seeing this for what it really is. Clearly this money isn’t going for the things you said it was going towards. And then you’re over there making nonchalant comments about how peoples concerns don’t bother you, it very well should bother you! Shame on you for exploiting your own Mothers death to go on your “shopping sprees” (your words not mine).

    • And they are here playing on peoples sympathy as if we are not feeling sorry for Rose. So we should set up a fundraiser for all well known designers in SL who experience a death or tragedy ?. It is so obvious what is going on here. And people are still falling smh.

  62. Hello I need a new iphone, will you guys kindly arrange a fundraiser for me I don’t have what to eat ^~^

  63. 2). Someone has no idea how to use their viewer and is unappreciative of a FREE service for them to use.

  64. #25) Sounds like some blogger is just jealous or to stoop to their level shall I say “jelly.” Her videos and blog are in depth creations of knowledge about many many many things and links. They are not only about her shapes LOLOLOL. Did you try a demo of the shape? Did you even look at the picture? But I guess making it to SL Secrets is trophy of achievement really. If you make it here you are famous LOLOL especially among the disgruntled jelly people.

  65. I don’t know anything about Eden valley but $210 isn’t a lot of money. I spend $100 each month for two parcels,so I’m sure to have land big enough for a school he’s spending way more then 210. So he’s probably right that he isn’t making any money from the school.

  66. #2… It’s not like you’re actually paying for the services. Just de-render what you don’t want to see.

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