Welcome to virtual-secrets, week 480.
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Why does everyone have to bring weight into it?
like “OH NO THEY ARE +300 lbs in rl! hate hate hate!”
and DUH a child avi is an ADULT in RL. so what?
also, what does them being transgender have to do with anything?
did someone hurt you? did you date this “kid avi” and find out its a mtf?
did you date the fat lady without knowing shes fat?
#6. That is NOT a Halloween skin. That is a Dia De Los Muertos skin. This Mexican holiday is on November 2nd.
If anyone is interested in an objective, unbiased opinion on the kid body debate, I have both mesh bodies. Now, keep in mind I have only tried the regular mesh of both brands. I have not tried the Fit Mesh of either one, nor have I tried the kid sizes, only the baby sizes. I purchased the Toddleedoo Baby Size body a little over a year ago and I have only just purchased the Beby Body 2 months ago. Myself and my siblings have evaluated both bodies and they both have their pro’s and con’s. Size: The Toddleedoo is larger and thicker and in my opinion the size relation of the Toddleedoo to adult avatars is more realistic. When I am with my SL parents, the size of the Toddleedoo baby/toddler is a good fit. The Beby Mesh Body body is smaller and less robust looking. SL heads look HUGE on this avatar. Even when I tried to make myself taller, it really just made me look thinner. That being said, I might try the new Fit Mesh version to make myself thicker and add body fat to this body. Aesthetics: The Toddleedoo is not as smooth as the Beby Body. The Beby Body is softer all round and has more realistic body proportions overall. The Toddleedoo hips are rather high for my taste and the hands are too large, even at size 0. I won’t rate the feet just yet as I have heard that the Toddleedoo creator is still updating them. The Beby Body feet are adorable but I can’t get Omega skins to look good on them (the toe lines are off center, not sure if a skin issue or a body UV issue) I also don’t like that there are multiple feet sizes for the body,… Read more »
This is it? This is my secret for being bashed? Ok then. I’m not impressed and this is probably the lamest secret of all the secrets you have submitted about your friends. A whole lot of ‘blah blah blah’ with grade school insults but the ‘check yourself’ comment is funny. Are you gonna check me? Please do it. Grow a pair of balls and say something to me. I’m not mad about this secret. I’m mad that I am friends with your snake-ass and you don’t have a spine to say something to me. I already know that you’re on my friends list, and the list of people to look at is very small. You’re not that fucking slick, sweetie. If you have an issue with me, then say something to me…or I can just IM you. Hopefully you’ll have the courage to tell the truth if I do ask you.
#5 What was the point of that? It’s like the insults are getting weaker as this charade continues. Smoke another one, dumbass. Clearly you have a crush on Luna and wanna be her big, bad protector. Sounds like she rejected you since you’re a scared, little bitch hiding behind that safety keyboard spewing insults like a little kid. Any attention is good attention right? Are you jealous she hangs out with Moses? Seems like it. If she’s rude to you, it’s because you’re an ass. I’m honestly losing interest in your nickelodeon celebrity roast rants, don’t care who you are. It’s just sorta comical that you take the time each week to look this lame. Bye loser.
Kid Community – back away from the secrets. If you want to make a difference in our community, be part of the solution.
Why does this not surprise me…always a lot of pedo posts and shit, makes me sick. Bad enough there are so many in rl we dont need pedo’s in sl. #pizzagate in sl needs to stop…>.<
whats even more sad is some designers cater to this…yea fuck all the way off!!!
PEDOS You are being watched,flagged, and reported!!!
Pizzagate was a fabrication by conspiracy media in a shameless attempt to make money and sabotage legitimate political candidates. Don’t trivialize the legitimate cases of sex trafficking and sexual assault by waving that supurious allegation around.
#5 Stalker Alert! Could you not be such a skeeze bag? I think the only thing that poor girl needs protecting from is the person who made that secret. You’re not a nice guy, you’re a creep.
Right??? This totally sounds like a stalker!
In my opinion the competition between TD and Bebe is unreal … I like the TD more as it is chubby like a baby, and the Bebe body is more useable when you want to be 6/7 +, no baby has tiny skinny hands they don’t have thighs that look thin from the front and muscular from the side. The whole proportions aren’t right and if you ever saw a baby in real you would know that! TD is much more closer to a baby body than Bebe is. In the end it’s everyone’s own thing which body they want to use, so why even make a secret about it ? I do get that the options on the Bebe HUD are more advanced than what the TD body provides … but I heard from so many creators now that to mesh for the Bebe body is more difficult, it’s everyone’s decision what body they want to wear and so it’s every creators decision what body they want to create for, be happy with what you get and if you don’t like it, try to sit down and create a better one ! Better body, better clothes whatever exactly made you do this secret …
#7 Am I the only person who’s never had any issues with her? I mean I know of her I’m not her friend and I’ve seen her at an event I think she helps out at? I wish I knew why people are telling me to be careful of her, like some kinda proof of her behaviour? I saw one “warning” which… made me scared of her but other than that one I’ve seen nothing.
Also why is the kid community full of drama?
Seems like it. Many people have had issues with her. You could always just go find out for yourself but it’s not recommended. That girl and every person who is associated with her is poison.
Because all communities are. The Furry Community is pretty bad too.
#1 it was given away as a gift, its not like they were selling it, if you have nothing better to do then to pick on someone giving a free gift away you need serious help
How big of a lump of trash do you have to be to attack someone for being transgender? Trans people put up with enough shit and you think it’s okay to just out them as part of an attack? You’re disgusting, OP. Not to mention that Marianne is one of the kindest, most genuine people I’ve ever met in SL. In a kid community which sometimes turns into a festering pit of in-fighting, she’s one of the few to rise above it all. You really picked the wrong person to attack because I can’t imagine anyone in the comments will have a single bad word to say about her – except, maybe, you. I hope you read all this and take it as a prompt to reflect on what led you to post such a hateful thing.
Absolutely agree! OP DISGUSTED ME!! Marianne as always been a great help to me, and very kind. OP you should be ashamed of yourself!
Marianne is amazing. Whoever wrote that secret should go crawl back under the rock they came out from. Spineless bastard. And what does it matter who a person is in real life? It sounds like you got your creep on and they told you to step off. Don’t be a slimy bastard.
@#12. I actually wear both bodies. I prefer the Bebe Brand but wish it had more clothes and always thought it was strange that they made a body and dont have clothes for it in their own store?
The body itself is made better and has more realism than the original child Toddlee body but find myself most of the time still wearing the Toddlee body due to how much is available for it.
@#1 I like the shop hop event myself , one of the better events for kids our there.
#3 – WHO CARES. WHO CARES WHAT GENDER A PERSON IS IRL? Fuck’s sake. Even if they are cross-playing, unless you’re engaging in a Long-Term Relationship with them, what skin is it off your ass?
#4 – Again, this is not your concern. She’s good people, no matter what her IRL disposition is.
THANK YOU. Mari is 100% a genuine person in sl, and FORGET anyone who puts her down. She is always there for her friends and the rest is noone’s business but her own. Her SL doesn’t rely on her RL gender identity and therefore THIS INFO IS NOONE”S BUSINESS BUT HER OWN. FULL STOP. This poster is just clearly sour grapes towards Marianne for whatever reason, and only makes themselves look bad.
7. It’s about time you had your spotlight on virtual-secrets. How old are you anyways like 60? 70? Aren’t you a little old and a little too “sick” to waste so much energy trying to act like your some internet thug when your too weak to get out of the computer chair you hang out in 247. Hanging out with girls who wear diapers in real life and play on skype with their “uncles”. Haven’t you died 100x from cancer already why are you still online?! Now, go slink under a rock until the next time your off your meds.
Genesis Lab made it first and it’s better looking than the lelutka one.
#7.Ha Ha – Alice Cullen and your little pack of bitches. Oh wait, don’t you play them all ?. Talk about drama monger. How’s it feel to roll around in it like a pig to mud. Well deserved post. Your one of the biggest bullying assholes in SL. Hope the trolls find their way to your fucked up sim. Actually I’ll pass them the LM. Good Luck with that !
#2 Both Catwa and Lelutka make amazing mesh heads, both have the ability to look young or older. Shaming someone for the way they like to look is very closed-minded of you. This sort of fits #3 and #4 also… if someone wants to play the opposite gender within SL, or even a child, it’s not your business. Sure, they should be honest with people they are very close to/trust, but it seems they were and someone betrayed that trust. Being overweight, underweight, changing your gender (rl or sl), being black or white, looking young or old, etc… these things don’t make you a bad person…. constantly judging, outing and insulting people kind of does, though. Work on your issues before casting stones.
#5 You seem like a stalker. “Can’t handle someone looking out for her” and “Calls people a creep when they are trying to be nice to her”. These comments do make you look creepy, grown women can take care of themselves… we don’t need weirdo’s like you neck breathing on us.
Outing someone as transgender is mean and cruel. People have way too many stigmas in rl….sl might be the only place they can feel safe and sane. You are just lowlife putting that on any media ….plus who really cares what age or size or anything is in rl. I have noticed a big change over the yrs with people trying to force sl to be more like rl and the whole size etc arguments.. . Leave rl out of it and chill more…. I might strut around as a unicorn in just because I can.
1-what do you except? everything in shop hop is excatlly the same shit every month.
2-that chick is ugly as fuck..wtf? is she a troll? I don’t know about you,but Ive never seen anyone in RL look like that..I mean besides the homeless crack heads
3,4- who gives a shit what you’re gender is in RL? this is SL,it’s an online virtual GAME where you can be who ever the fuck you want…grow up
9-umm..why are you even looking at a child avatar in that way?..that makes YOU pigly
10-lmfao bebe body sucks,it’s one of the worst bodies out there.
12-Yah,it’s really fucked up that TD jacked their prices up..but I still stand by the fact that TD is better made
13-Lemomo copybots other designers,Baby princess prides its self on slutty clothing for children,tiptoes and buglets are adorable though
14-that’s disgusting,that store should be shut down
BTW I’m about 99% sure all those bebe body posts where posted by bad seeds lmfao..give it up mate,TD is the better body and most likely always will be. For every 10 toddlers only 1 is bebe and they’re not even bebe full time
#14, Yeah, I’ve reported their items many times if I see I haven’t reported it, yet LL has not done a single thing. First report was in June, then started reporting on my alt account. I hate that it is still up.
1 – Shop hop is one of the best kid events in SL at the moment.
2,3,4 – I don’t get how you can say that about someone and then defend someone else in the very next sentence for the same thing you literally just complained about. There are all types of people in RL and SL kind of desensitizes people over that fact. People can be whoever they want. Don’t be a hypocrite.
Bebe – Personally I prefer the bebe body, but the problem, as most others have, is that 95% of my inventory is for the TD body and doesn’t fit the bebe body as well. TD hasn’t been updated in forever (and didn’t until it finally got some competition) Competition is good.
$550 is really not much for a mesh body. Just because it’s small doesn’t mean it should be worth any less. But I hope the price increase brings some better features.
In time I’d like to use my bebe body more when there are more clothes/skins for it.
Guys is it really that big of an issue to play sl as a different gender?!! Like, who gives a shit.
And putting someone down on top of that for transitioning?!
That’s lame ha.
Yea its so wrong 🙁
You can really stop with this Bebe body thing now. This sudden push to make it a thing moreso than the TD is pathetic. It’s even more pathetic that you feel that coming to virtual-secrets is a viable marketing ploy. Talk about exploiting a horrible, nasty medium for your gain. The Bebe body is NOT a good body and everyone I know that’s tried it considers it a waste of money. As someone who gave it an honest go, I can tell you that TD is still better. Hands down. And by trying to bring attention to it here, you’ve lost my respect as a creator in this low-handed way of garnering attention.
The above secrets doesn’t benefit any of the creators.
You’ve got to be a complete fucking tool to think that it does. The opposition would want the other body prices to go up so it’s not cheaper than the baby bodies.
Fucking dumbass lol
You couldn’t make it more obvious that you made the post yourself to try and stir things up, again. LOL
#4, you disgust me. Outing anyone as transgender is incredibly dangerous, no matter who or what their circumstances are and your actions could have far-reaching consequences, things that you wouldn’t want on your head, believe me. What you did, with a blatant disregard for a real person’s feelings is beyond apology. You’re scum, pond filth. I wouldn’t scrape you off my shoe or piss on you if you were on fire.
It is nobody’s business but theirs to disclose their gender identity We take our lives in our hands just existing sometimes, so we don’t need ignorant, inconsiderate assholes like you sticking their necks into our business and handing us to those who would want to hurt us for real. Think about that.
I sincerely hope to God that you never find yourself in a situation where someone would want to physically hurt you just for existing.
Not a woman but #2 makes me think that has to be Catwa Clip (lol- jk) or one of her huge supporters. I would be scared away from shopping at Lelutka after seeing that.
A lot of people actually want the ability to be able to do these looks even if a bit more subtly than what was shown here. With Catwa, you really can’t get these looks. Genesis Lab actually made a head with a nose similar (though more tastefully done). While you may not like it, that definitely doesn’t mean that’s the official opinion of everyone. Not everyone wants to look like a perfect cookie cutter version of the next person.
#4 – Oh!Well, good for her! Best of luck Mari, if that’s the case!
If its not the case, best of luck still, Mari!
OP, no one cares about this sort of thing. Mari is super respected and well-liked for many, many reasons – all of which have literally nothing to do with the fact that her avatar is a girl. I’m not sure what exactly you were trying to do here but lolshakehead. Stupid.
yo the TD community needs to chill lol
#7 It really is about time that this Alice woman was called out. That whole entire group of girls are mean and cruel. This isn’t the first time they have taken to social media to attack creators when they didn’t get their way. You can’t please everyone.
#9 There is no such thing as too cute.
#2 saying this is beautiful, is nothing different than saying “underage looking avies” is beautiful. Not everyone wants to look “like in real life”. Yes, it IS nice there is a variety with this heads lelutka did, but now all glory to that is as stupid as just hating it.
#5 That sounds like someone is really butthurt because she didn’t liked this person to creep around her.
#2 in a virtual world of fantasy why would everyone want to look ultra realistic anyway? Why would someone copy their RL avatar in SL? you can literally be ANYTHING..and you are stuck in that RL avatar in RL, why not make SL fun and use your imagination? it seems hard for some folks. while I love the diversity of SL it seems like it is becoming less and less diverse, and more and more “let’s look random”. I do love the leltka heads, but I also love catwa, for different reasons. Catwa you can make look cute, bitchy, and anything in between and i love the lips and side profile of catwa. Lelutka is kind of always bitchy, but I love it!
Lelutka was very hard for me to work with on an adult avatar and I couldn’t take the “bitchy” away from it. Don’t get me wrong , they are beautiful heads, but best I could do was sort of a “brat” look. Very sharp. Very angled. Very hard to pull them away from the gaunt super model features.
Catwa for me is too pouty in the lips and the ones I tried had the eyes set weird. I couldn’t get a shape that was more “Girl Next Door” but I did try.
LOGO is almost perfect for what I like but the lip size, length, and thickness is awful to try to work with. You can get the front perfect but then turn to the side and.. ick.
Bento heads are wonderful but even with all their features – you can’t undo the basic way they are modeled.
Lelutka also has more chiseled jaws with any shape you do and sliders, they are the hardest to sculpt the jawline more feminine.
8. Whoever this poster is, I think it’s about time you find the purpose of your life. Surely you have to be good at something other than stalking. You are just making yourself look bad at this point.
Obviously the OP is an ex who can’t let things go and has to result to posting shitty secrets because no one cares about their obsession. It’s really sad, I hope they can get this go and focus on their own marriage.
As that ex you’re referring to would be me based on something you said you sound about as dumb as the dumb fuck who does these post about her. For one, Lexxi knows where I have been and what I have been going through in my RL so it’s not possible for me to sit here and make some fucked images about her. For two, her and I talk perfectly fine and have seen each other since we broke up so what obsession would that be exactly? For three, what marriage? I’ve never been married in my life. So you should get your stalking down right before you try to make comments about shit you have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s funny how you all keep trying to fill her head with nonsense bullshit that isn’t true while her and I talk and she believes me. So why continue to say shit? If you even knew half the shit you’d know I have been getting the same type of shit she has from these people even when we started dating and I have every bit of proof of all of it and she knows it as well. So fuck off with the assumptions and trying to cause more shit over something you know nothing about. Never have I ever said she cheated on me. I know for a fact she didn’t and I have said that numerous times. I’ve never talked shit to her or said one bad word about her at all. Nor have I spoken to anyone about anything between us but one person and she knows who that person is. Lexxi knows who I am and knows damn well I’d never say a bad thing about her especially not any of this shit these people… Read more »
#6 – Calaveras, sugar skulls and skull art are associated with Dia de los Muertos, which is celebrated from Oct. 31 – Nov. 2. It’s actually extremely timely.
That may be so, however, why offer it in a tone that requires you to purchase the body applier if you wish to wear it?
The bigger issue as I see it, is the questionable quality of some (but certainly not all) of the offerings in Powder Pack.
One brand a couple months back offered an applier with such poor shading that the nose was literally crooked (not great unless you want that look I suppose). The same brand this month offered lipsticks where the color along the cupid’s bow was incomplete on one side.
It would pay creators to remember that these ‘sampler’ boxes should showcase their *best* work and not be used as a means to get rid of what otherwise might be unsaleable.
#7 YASSSSS that bitch needs to go. No one likes you Alice or your little group misfits with bad mouths. Please quit SL and do us all a favor! 😀
So, not having harshly defined features in SL makes you look ‘underaged and unrealistic’ now? There are many people who are adults who do look underaged or have features that aren’t very prominent.
Not to mention since when do most of the common adult mesh heads look underaged anyway? This is mind boggling.
Curious about this too. All the heads I’ve used on my adult avatar are very harshly adult (huge lips, angled features, sharp jaw) and I’ve had a hell of a time trying to make them look more Girl Next Door and less Angled Super Model or Plump Lipped Porn Star.
#13 What makes them more underappreciated than any other Kid/Baby clothing designer? All of them work their tushes off to make clothing for the kid community and rarely do any get recognition.
Hats off to those you put in the “secret” but also to those who weren’t included. You’ve all done very well!
most of those designers are trash designers
~io~ Is still there? Maybe if people can find who the origional creators of the skins are they can report them and that will bring light to the creepy pedo stuff they sell too.
Doesn’t help. I personally sent a notecard to VCO about the stolen skins and she hasn’t done shit.
3 and 4
Who cares if they are a girl in rl or man trans into a girl in rl. Let them play who they want in sl to be happy.
People think it’s a big deal when you are the opposite sex of a character in sl.
Long as that person it’s happy. Let them be. Not like they are affecting your rl.
#3-#4 Someone has beef with two people who don’t bother anyone else and are generally benign. Jealousy maybe?
You don’t out someone who is trans, I don’t care if they called you a no-no word online or if the fact they exist makes you feel personally insulted. I don’t know if she is trans and it’s not my business. It’s not yours either unless you’re dating her.
Why don’t you tell us about yourself, secret maker? How much do you weigh? What’s your sexual orientation? What gender are you and your avatars? Tell us about your alts. You’re hiding too, aren’t we all? Very very few people put themselves 100% online (and nobody really should, it’s dangerous). How much fake outrage are we supposed to have over something this benign that a lot of us are guilty of?
What did these two do to you to make you such a bitter cuntasaurus though? Did you get kicked out of a fireworks display? Did you get told you’re a boogerhead? Did Holocluck refuse to give into your Doctor Who fantasies?
I died @ cuntasaurus! ahahaha
Took the words right out of my mouth, as my immediate reaction on seeing both of those was… “Who the he** cares?” Unless you’re hooking up with someone, who and what they are in the real world is their business, not yours.
Really? Out of all the people on the grid that deserve to be on this site for being awful, you choose Marianne? Why does it matter what they do in real life? You sir/mam are utterly pathetic, and have nothing else to complain about.
I’ve never had a problem with Marianne, they’ve always been nice and polite with me, I think that’s what counts.
Are any of us exactly the same in RL and in SL? When I look at the real world, I don’t see a bunch of young perfectly fit super models/porn stars out there and unless you look exactly like your avatar – a person doesn’t have much room to go “LUL UR REALLY 300LBS/A MAN AND NOT UR AVATAR”.
Glass houses and all that.
As long as someone isn’t using an online identity to be malicious or hurtful, who cares? Neither Holocluck or Mari are out there catfishing people, abusing others for fun and/or money, or using their SL identities to be sadistic. We don’t even know if what Secret Maker said is true, probably because most of us don’t care. Hell, I’m a cis woman and I had an ex try to say I was a trans male to hurt me.
All I can conclude is that Secret Maker is jealous. So jealous that it burns them every day of their lives that Holo and Mari are better people than they could ever be so this was their “revenge”.
Marianne may be one of the politest and most helpful people I’ve ever had the pleasure of running in to, going to far as to help in other creator and event groups that she has no responsibility to (see FLF group!)
No one has the right to judge others for the gender they play online. Do you play only your one gender in video games?