Welcome to SLsecret, week 349.
SLSecret: Week 349
· Lourdes Denimore ·
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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
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Sorry guys. I’ve slacked on moderation. All those waiting have been cleared.
#3 The answer is BOTH.
I see the annoying little shits, and think of the sad ‘adult’ behind them.
I eject them out, wtf do they want in my adult store???
In addition to this, I do not have ANY friends who either tolerate them or have a child avatar.
You should mention the name of your store so all those sad, annoying little shits can avoid it and make sure their adult friends stay clear too. Maybe instead of being a bitchy twat stain you could maybe ask. Seems like a legit way to get an answer. I am enjoying this theme with all you nay sayers to the kid avi’s. It seems that you are all team whore. I think its not got to do with what you all think they are doing…. Seeing a kid makes you question what you are doing and you don’t like it.
@ Nobody Says
Oh, burn on us with the tired old ‘ get yourself a real life and have some sex’ suggestion.
In case you didn’t get the memo, this sight is all about stirring some shit, it was created for that very purpose, the airing of grievances and dirty laundry in the Second Life world.
What I posted isn’t even a secret, just an observation based on factual occurrences.
Maybe your advice that we all need some “real life sex” is more wishful thinking for yourself :O 😀 If you go to the SL marketplace, there are a lot of items that can aid you in that venture, giggity!
Oh I feel chastised now! How ever will I go on with my day? Oh, right. By not caring, Y’all can carry on all you like, but I maintain that if y’all were having more orgasms you’d be a way less crabby bunch. 😀
I didn’t read everything you wrote, but if you write a novel again I promise to read it this time!
Also, with regards to child avatars. I don’t personally assume they’re all doing immoral things. However, no matter how I try to wrap my head around it I still feel there has to be some mental health issues going on in order for an adult to want to consistently play a child avatar/character online. Often for hours at a time.
lol, “I didn’t read everything you wrote, but if you write a novel again I promise to read it this time!”
Makes fun of you for writing a long comment. REPLIES WITH LONG COMMENT. Holy fuck, this place is amazing.
Oh meh and nobody, my life is in ruins! I shall never write another novel on this webpage again because I am just.that.shattered.
By the way, get that order from the marketplace? 😀
I was making fun of the person who made fun of you, but okay!
Again, this place. Amazing.
I’ll take an adult playing a child avatar over seeing sellers who hock things such as:
Back Ally Rape Kits
Dirty Matress Rape Kit
and over 300 pages on the marketplace that come up when you type in ‘Rape’.
That shit will get you arrested in real life.
Can we get something more specific going? Let me throw someone out there that people don’t want to touch:
Strawberry Singh… yes, I said it. Because I love a good whine and am ‘friends’ with her on many social networks I don’t HAVE to make anything up. Needy describes her quite well. Is it necessary to post you need some clothing ideas because a reporter doing an SL story has asked you to kit her out? No, Berry knows where to get the best clothing and also knows quite well HOW to dress a female avatar as well as a male one. Berry wanted as many people as possible to know that a reporter sought her out… really? Then there is the whining she does about school and her home-life. She is in her thirties and still in school and living with her parents… Really?? and for god sake, can someone please tell her and Winter Jefferson to stop this teenage flirt-fighting and just do it already or again or whatever? I could go on but I have dinner going and people waiting. Now, everyone of you Berry fans make sure you hate on this post real good – I’ll need some light reading later on 🙂
and you say you’re friends with here and that’s how you talk aobut your “friends” wow
@Kali – as much as anyone hundreds of miles apart in lifestyles and having met on a social network can be friends… you really don’t believe everyone you meet on the web and on these social networks is true friend. Come on, you can do better than that can’t you?
I know not to post every emotion I am feeling in a day, she tends to over-share and be very needy thus opening herself up to some feedback on that behavior. I am not the first to point these things out and won’t be the last.
That was a good try to stir shit. Good try, indeed.
Now, what you all need is some real life sex. At the very least go rub one out. 😀
#3 lol really? i know there are autistic fucks on SL who babytalk and take it to a whole new level, but lets be honest I am as much as my child avatar as you are your tan, blonde, curvy pixel. Like comeon stop grouping people as a whole, because guess what. If outsiders grouped sl as a whole you’d be a fat middle aged married woman who dates on SL to escape her shitty reality.
Oh I KNOW you didn’t just use the word autistic in a derogatory fashion.
I find it amazing that you use the word autistic to group an entire group of individuals for a certain type of behavior when your post is basically saying don’t group individuals together. For that matter if they were Autistic chances are they wouldn’t speak to you at all orrrrr their language skills would far surpass yours, but generally they don’t baby talk of fucking idiot. You managed to kill your somewhat decent point by making a fool of yourself with your complete intolerance for a group of disabled individuals.
Funny to assume all come to SL to fuck. Sure once your in, especially in the beginning sex can have its appeal tho I am doubting most people are like “Oh look! I can fuck here!” when they initially decide to check it out. In terms of kid avi’s who gives a shit… people can be furries or vamps… ten foot tall chicks with dicks… Who really cares. So long as they aren’t bothering you a good rule of thumb is to mind your own business. I know a good few kiddo’s and the story is usually pretty much they had a shit ass childhood and this gives them the opportunity to play out what it would be like to have a loving family. That doesn’t sound like a sex thing to me. Each one I know has been approached by some nasty ass pedo type and the reaction is always the same “TP MEEEE STRANGER DANGER!!” so yea I am pretty sure all you morons thinking all they are doing is boning the Mr. Rogers of SL are wrong. I’m not saying some don’t think that kinda shit I am just saying you are fucked up to assume they all or most do. YOU might come to SL for the sex but don’t put your deviance on to the rest of us. It is ok and accepted to have entire sims dedicated to rape and abuse and that sort of shit but put on a kid avi and your a fucking sicko. Get a fucking clue.
Sims dedicated to rape and abuse are not ok with me at all. Neither are the freaks who like to take weak women shove a collar around her neck and call her a slave, also looked upon with utter disdain
What a lot of people here don’t seem to realize, is that this group of people (the site readers) they’re made up of a SMALL portion of sl. Bloggers/designers. You’re talking about a group of maaaaaaybe 500 people. Most of SL doesn’t shop at our stores, they don’t read out blogs. Most of SL is still stick in 2009, with their system layers, prim hair and bling. Most of SL is here for sex. Just because YOU and YOUR FRIENDS aren’t, doesn’t mean that most of SL isn’t a really fucked up place.
I own a NON-RP/non-sex sim. At least 3-4 times a week i’m having to remove/ban people for fucking! They’re always just nooby looking people, going at it on the ground or on whatever object is tickling their fancy.
So congrats, you aren’t twisted pervert. Now can we please stop pretending that most of SL isn’t?
My point was not all are twisted shits looking to D or get the D upon sign up and pretty sure I did say sex has it appeal to most in the beginning of our existence in SL. If you own a non sex sim there is plenty of non fuckable furn and deco that could be used so if you have noobs boning on your yard that’s on you. I never said SL wasn’t a fucked up place because even many non sexual people are bat shit crazy. I just think you all going on about kid avi’s getting it on need to sit the fuck down and sort out your own repressed desires because for you to automatically assume all kids are here to get it on is just retarded.
I have 0 sex items on my sim, people have their own sex animations. It’s very common.
You’ve spent too much time RPing a child, as your responses and even the name you’re using right now reek of immaturity.
Noobs you say come fuck on your sim… Using own animations? They must be hella smart… I don’t play on a kid avi but I don’t feel like I am one to judge others for how they play. Yea my responses may seem immature however they don’t reek of the bullshit yours do. It’s cool tho I have grown to expect that stench from judgmental cunts.
Hella smart for knowing what sex huds are? Lol.
You are ignorant. I agree with Wowurdumb. Noobs have no idea how to do anything so if they’re coming into your LM on sex animations they are not noobs, they are griefers. If you are so unhappy with all the sex in SL then why are you still in-world?
The beauty of SL is that people can be anything they want. They can live their SL any way they want. Who are you to judge? Yes… adult behavior should be kept on adult and mature sims. But there will always be griefers. You have a right to run your parcel anyway you want to, but let others do the same. Whether it be for sex, family, furry activity, RP, dancing, or whatever they want.
You know while you are judging other people, they are also judging you…
Oh my bad, noobs come in game knowing how to use all that shit.
Omg it finally happened. I looked at these comments, realised that it’s like reading a bad book over and over. Everythings the same! Same secrets, same comments, same retorts that are trying to be witty…
I realised, I’m wasting my time!
Next time I take a shit, I’m going on Reddit, bai 🙂
Funny how weird sex RP Sims are accepted, and a grownup playing a child isn’t.
All the child avi’s I met were nice friendly and polite, things as Gorean and forced sex in a virtual world I rather see disappear from Second Life.
I don’t play Second Life for sex, in fact I don’t even *have* sex in SL. I play it because it’s like a glamorized form of playing with a paper doll (that might be before your time, but google it). I get to dress up cute (where dress size and money are no objects, and I can try styles I would never dare IRL), I get to have a beautiful home and decorate it however I want – and redo it all the next week. I love the job I do in SL because it’s challenging, it utilizes my skills like attention to detail, and I get to discover a lot of new stores and idea through it. I love listening to live music, and I love goofing off with friends. Sometimes I run around in a hamster avatar just to make people laugh. Sometimes I put on my riding outfit and go find an open sim to ride my horse around.
When people say “SL is just about sex,” I think, have you ever *been* in SL? There’s a lot more to it than that!
Oh and yeah, the fact that the Gor lifestyle is so popular and widely tolerated, even if not outright condoned, is what creeps me out. Glorified slavery and rape and misogyny and sexsexsex… nobody ever makes secrets on here about how weird *that* is, but you’ll rant until you’re blue about how weird families are? That’s pretty messed up.
I don’t find those places any more acceptable at all
Most people play secondlife for sex, and if you don’t believe that then you’re delusional.
I agree with number 3. Child avatars are creepy I know they like to say it’s only about reliving their childhood, most of us know that’s not what it’s about. They want to get dressed in children’s clothing and have sex , or grown adults hiding behind an avatar so they can live out creepy fantasies of having sex with a kid or a teen without getting thrown in jail. It’s revolting
What is wrong with you? If pedophilia is the first place your mind goes then “me thinks doth protest too much.”
I suppose you are anti-gay and against gay rights IRL?
Wow, that’s so sick. I love being a kid because its cute and fun to create a avatar. Are there sickos that use the kid avatars for horrible things? Yes.. but do not judge a group of people how only a few act. I agree is weird how some of the kids look so ‘sluty’ but that’s only a small portion of people in this community. We try and separate ourselves from them but close minded people like yourself just wont let it go. I also have opinions on other RP’s that I personally find ‘weird’. But you will never see me making a comment on this site judging others… I for one am a 2 year old who dresses so. Its not fun be judged for a few other crappy peoples decisions… I am sorry you don’t like our community, you are missing out on a lot of fun. You choice, and I respect that.. just respect us too. <3
Sorry but you just admit what myself and clearly other people know ” “
Cat landed on the key board before I was done………Other people feel the same as I do, because someone wrote the secret and it wasn’t me. People will always judge whether you like it or not. I betyou wouldn’t stand around the water cooler and tell anyone about your 2 year old avatar
Actually, my entire family & friends know. Even my grandmother. I show them around our family sim and show them how cute my avi is. 😀 <3
Yes like I said people you know and trust
Well, now why would I tell people at work, or a random person? Unless we are friends outside of work, I like to keep it professional and that does not include what I like to do with my free time. So I really do not understand that question/statement.
My point is, you would stand at the water cooler and say “I went to the movies at the weekend” but you wouldn’t stand around saying “I dressed up as a 2yo this weekend and played with my virtual mommy and daddy” It’s not just a matter of trust it’s a matter or social acceptance, your game isn’t socially acceptable it just isn’t, it is stigmatised and it’s not stigmatised without reason, that’s the point
If the subject randomly came up at the ‘water cooler’ like ‘Hey I saw a video about virtual life on youtube last night, it seems interesting… ‘ I would be like OMG yes, I’m on one called secondlife! You should sign up, I could show you around! But that never comes up, ever. But if it did I would be the first one to answer any questions, on my CHILD avatar. And if they didn’t understand my kid avi, that’s cool I would explain why I love playing a kid, and even though it would not be for them personally, I am sure they would find their own thing and we could live in harmony. Open your mind just a small tiny bit, there is enough hate, crime and all around negativity in our real world to bring in into this one.
And Whatever or Kali or Elle (I can’t keep up with all your “personalities”).
Since when is a measure of right or wrong as to whether you would tell your colleagues about your private life. I am gay, and not a single one of my colleagues know. All my family do, and my friends. But not one single colleague because I separate my professional and private life.
So what sort of straw man are you trying to use with that? You are ridiculous. Applying your rules, that means the fact I don’t tell my colleagues means being gay is wrong. Seriously???
Weekly you demonstrate such a lack of empathy and general dislike for people that it’s beyond fucking clear you are a sociopath who preys on people. Anybody who disagrees read back this woman’s comment over the past year on here, it’s mind blowing.
I am sick of shit like you type because so many people struggle to overcome discrimination.
What on earth are you talking about. I am Kali that is my AV name, obviously not my complete name but why would I tell you that. I don’t care if you’re gay or straight. I don’t understand your problem except that you don’t like my opinion and that’s fine with me.
Well actually, people do know about my child avatar and when I talk about Second Life, I do tell them about my experience of being adopted into a family and anyone who knows me knows that my SL family is a big part of my life. I’ve met some wonderful people whom I care about and talk to in RL as well, they make their way into my conversations frequently because they’re part of my life. Then again, the friends and family I have know I’m a roleplayer and asexual and they also know I was severely emotionally abused by my mother. They may not all understand why I play a child but they sure as hell know there is nothing perverted or sexual about any of it. If anything, they’re more likely to think it’s an excuse to be childish rather than therapy or an escape from our highly sexualized society it actually is. And hey, the secret said child avatars and the people playing them are creepy, not boning Big Bird for fun and secretly pedophiles. Creepy I can deal with. I find futas, people with huge lola tits and asses, men who frequent rape sims, Goreans, and anyone with genitalia hanging out in a non-sex place to be super creepy and that’s okay. What’s not okay is projecting your own sexual desires and insecurities onto a child avatar just because they’re a kid. Newsflash, I know it’s probably not going to sink in because it never does with sexual people: Not everyone is sexual. Not everything relates to sex. Not everyone wants to have sex. Sometimes a ball is just a ball. It’s possible to take on a role and be completely non-sexual in it. If you are looking at innocent things and popping out sexual thoughts,… Read more »
I’m sure the people you know and trust and the people who understand you are accepting, because they love you unconditionally. But I doubt you’d tell work colleagues in a professional capacity, I know you don’t have to tell anyone, but I’m just saying, most wouldn’t get it. The fact that this child porn has been an issue in SL can’t be denied, it has and it has led to child AV’s not being allowed to access parts of the grid.
And don’t forget you have no idea who is behind that computer, I doubt most of them are young girls like yourself.
That’s a bit of a trapping statement, because in all honesty, most of us wouldn’t tell work colleagues about our SL avatars at all. I for one have not and would not. Not because I’m ashamed of my avatar or what I do while in SL (and I don’t have a child avatar), but because I don’t want to hear comments like “you do what?” followed by weird looks.
And what about those of us who are completely non-sexual/asexual and play children specifically to get away from the sexual side of Second Life all together? Yes, I’m a grown woman but I feel very uncomfortable as an adult avatar in many places because of the large number of people who play SL for sex and assume everyone else is just like them. Running around as an age appropriate dressed eight year old completely frees me from dealing with sexual people and if, linden forbid, one does decide to be sexual towards my kid avatar – I can report them because it’s against TOS. No one is going to defend them or see it as normal, especially since my child avatar looks like a child, acts like a child, and dresses like a child.
I really do think anyone who looks at a kid avatar and thinks sexual things is projecting their own thoughts and desires onto them. I mean, do they look at people who have WH horse avatars and think they only have them for sex too? I just don’t get it…
I agree, the majority of child avatars I’ve encountered play children because they want to avoid the sexual aspect of sl.
Well you would say that wouldn’t you, you don’t like to be confronted with the negativity that surrounds your community, so it’s easier for you to say I must be projecting. I’m not projecting, I’m sorry if you don’t like it, but that’s how many people think.
Your response was almost too sensible for a place like this. Well said. ^_^
Why don’t you have a seat over there, and tell us more about your rather creepy fantasies about what child avatars do?
I remember VH1 or something similar doing a little expose on SecondLife many many years ago, and they focused on a man who had a large SL family, and the only real purpose was for creepy sex. Clearly not all child avis are doing this, but when stuff like that gets air on national television, you can’t really blame people for having views like that.
Exactly and how many kid porn circles have been busted wide open in the past that is the reason LL changed the rules and kid AVs were no longer allowed on adult sims.
How many have been busted right open? Two, and one was a set up for the cameras.
Kid avatars are still allowed on adult sims.
Facts. You has them.
Most of you apparently don’t know what’s it’s really about. You assume, and you know what they about people who assume. You think child avies are creepy? Cool, there are a lot of people in SL who aren’t child avies that are even creepier and into some really disturbing things. If you don’t honestly know about something, it’s probably best not to be so judgemental. If you really knew about how most child avies are than you wouldn’t say such things. It’s a bit revolting to project such negativity on something you are clueless about.
I find people who walk around with massive boobs and cocks wagging out incredibly creepy and inappropriate. If it were my choice, I would never associate with those people or hang out around them. You know what I do when I encounter them? I go about my own fucking business because it’s not my fucking place to judge how they choose to spend their SL.
Child avatar bothers someone? There are mute and derender buttons for a reason. Fucking use them.
I don’t know many kid avis but none of the ones I know dress as kids to have sex. And I don’t think that is why some people have an issue with it. I don’t understand why some adults want to interact as kids but it’s their prerogative to do so. If it makes you uncomfortable I suggest removing yourself from the situation.
Please, tell us more about your repressed desires and what you want to do with the child avatars you encounter. Also, maybe your name so we can get you on a nice registry somewhere.
Nothing repressed here at all. I find the thought of some middle aged man role playing a little girl to be rrevolting, to me it smacks of pervert, yes perhaps I’m ignorent, so what it says the same thing to many others. Why a man wants to be a little girl or a sluty looking teen is beyond most peoples understanding and that is why it keeps coming up. So your silly and frankly very predictable response is moot.
Middle aged man? Lol, way to make assumptions.
I’m a 19 year old girl playing a child avatar in addition to my main avatar because I love kids, and I love dressing my child avatar up because I find her adorable.
I didn’t realize that made me a middle aged man pedophile but ok!
And also, most of the child avatars I know are females under the age of 30 soooo…
I’ve met several people who play girl avatars in SL and none of them are male IRL. The one boy avatar I know is played by a male IRL. Dunno why you assume everyone’s a “40 year old man”…
I couldn’t do the kid RP thing myself (especially since TD makes it basically toddlers or adults, you rarely see kids in between), but from what I’ve seen of the kid RPers I’ve met… it often seems to stem from a RL need, like a woman who can’t have children will adopt in SL, or a woman whose childhood was horrible will try to have a happier one in SL. I’m not going to pass judgment on whether that’s a healthy way to meet those needs or not, I really don’t know, however I do think that for most people it has *nothing* to do with sex. The people I personally know who RP kids would be furious and disgusted if you suggested that to them.
Furthermore, Kali, your original comment reminds me of the dad in American Beauty who rants and raves about how gross gay people are, then we find out he has repressed homosexual desires. You really sound a lot like that guy.
You seem to be making a hell of a lot of assumptions and when you type “most”, nope its just you making that comment “Kali”.
I agree with Mirror Mirror, those with a damaged mind assume others are just like them.
We are not like you. Go get help.
I really don’t get this constant hate on child avatars. How much weirder is it to play a child than to play some superstar fashionista? *shrugs*
I think the people that are bothered so much by child avatars have their mind set to one thing. We all know what that thing is. What they don’t realize is that most people that prefer to use a child avatar aren’t doing those things. So, the real question is, to those of you that have such an issue with it… why do you automatically think of that one thing when you see a child avatar? Is there something wrong with you?
I have no clue what ‘most people with child avs’ are doing in private, and I also have no idea how anyone else would have access to this information, since a) nobody can know exactly how many of the child avs they know are alts of each other and b) nobody can know exactly how many of the child avs of their acquaintance have secret alts.
I’m glad I don’t have that kind of omniscience, to be honest.
3 – Pretty sure it’s you for spending so much time looking at child avatars and wondering about them. If it’s not part of *your* life, why does it matter?
6 – Guess you’re not looking in the right places, I can think of plenty. Sayin that, most of this plywood shit seems to be from those exorbitantly priced inworld prim to mesh tools. As for the panels, I see most of these at events, they’re a good way to get *something* out. I just wish they wouldn’t any more cause it’s getting boring. Also all the things you described? Common for beginners.
7 – Sexist much? Could easily say that it’s only easy to understand men cause they are simple as shit, and dense to boot. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.
Not to be a contrarian, but you may have over generalized with your “cause they (men) are simple as shit” (and dense) comment — since, at least in my mind, people like Ray Kurzweil, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Jiddu Krishnamurti, George Bernard Shaw, Francis Collins, and Stephen Hawking come to mind right away. But addressing sexism I do agree with.
Umm, guess you didn’t get the tone of that, because I was being facetious.
#2 described every rp sim ever. That said though Convergence has some amazing people and there is great rp happening there (and not all of it erotic!) With rp you generally get what you give. If you want fantastic rp you have to, as Britney would say, work bitch.
I second that emotion Exhi!!!
Convergence is full of wonderful writers and genuine people…
Sounds to me like someone is jealous ;p
Indeed Eo! 😀
You pretty much just have to glance at the incredible amount of (completely non-erotic) RP logs, character journals, and events on our site to know that this is patently untrue.
Pretty sure the poster is the player we banned who, when told she could not solve a major sim plotline by herself in a day, or scavenge a fully functioning yacht in a nigh post-apocalyptic wasteland, had a bit of a meltdown and claimed we were prejudiced against you because you wouldn’t do erotic RP. (Truthfully, nobody could have given a damn about that.) You also claimed 4 months ago that our sim would be dead in three months.
@#6 LAME and STUPID.