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SLSecret: Week 341

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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
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• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.

Welcome to SLsecret, week 341.

1) blackwidow

2) blahbeards

3) but-now-you-know-dont-you

4) eight-hundred-dollars-to-the-owner-isnt-even-a-profit-split

5) fuckingplurk

6) greensboro-0

7) PrioritiesMuch

8) secretfilename

9) SLNEWS

10) stickitinyourbutt

11) whatever

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  2. So, how DO they get the caramel into the caramilk bar?

    That is a better question then all this nonsense fighting with people you all probably do not even know, and never will.

    Where is the vote button?

    We need more hugs.

  3. Can I just ask….

    why does anyone care this much over this “drama”? LOL I just scrolled past the largest accumulation of BS comments and I can’t help but facepalm. Who are the Gilmans and why do so many people care about their fake/pixel life?

    Quick cliche’ suggestion : turn the damn computer off. Theres a life off of SL. …. no really, there IS! Stop caring this much over the biggest load of crap. You’re just throwing yourself in the same pile of shit and youre looking just as dirty.

    Pathetic. The lot of ya.

  4. My last statement ever on this site, or to even look!
    I will admit to my faults and my wrongs, i dislike those people more then anything, but the shit i said well was just wrong on so many levels. I was heated i was mad. But no point in justifying my wrongs with right.. I was just plan wrong! Ya i got caught, i said what i said and hid behind another name! Why, cause i was sick of the double standards, i was sick of all the crap being done to me. But still not right of me to last out at people like i did.

    First off for those who are in my family if you want to disown me i understand ill go, no worries i wont even fight. I deserve that at most. For the Orelanders, ya that part was not me, or dissing my own family. I dont even know those folks, or even half of my own family for that matter, so what they do on their own time is there business.

    Second, Gilmans and Kara, i dislike you but sorry for the words i said to you all. Have me muted block me i wont think no less. But even though i dislike Kara, she actually got through to me, and i needed that slap to be reminded PAST IS PAST.

    So today Past is Past.
    Even if you dont accept my sorry, ill do it publicly since i smacked talked you publicly.
    Atleast i can be a “BIG BOY” about it all!
    So im sorry!
    RyanT Bluemood
    you can check my IP its me!

  5. I’d like to apologize for my comments. I don’t want to be that person. I am angry and holding resentment towards Jill because she has spoken very negatively about me, my family and friends, and even her own family that I’ve been privy to.

    I’ve decided, that I just no longer care. I don’t associate with her and I don’t need to anymore. I don’t need to be negative on here or bring more negativity to her life. I feel ashamed of what was said and how it was said with anger and was just to be brash and hurtful.

    I won’t be back here to comment this week, so I hope anyone Ive offended can accept my apology.

    Have a nice rest of the week everyone.

    • You are STILL telling more lies as your name suggests. Your false and unproven “conversations with Jill” where she supposedly talked about her family and her friends are still lies. You are obviously hiding the fact that you are defaming her character still and for someone who is so evil enough to come express these things on this site, are lower than low. You have showed no proof, no one believes you other than probably that ryan kid and yourself as you make up fake names and still hide your real sl name so your words hold nothing. If you are REALLY sorry and want to prove those accusations of the above then I will contact you in world if you would like to prove it, if not bug off LIES

    • Careful, Lies, you may just force me to change my nom de plume here. LOL!

      Your latest comment showed you have more grace and decency than the other riff raff here that continue to spout their nonsense. I take my hat off to you.

  6. My immediate SL family was attacked here last year, but we rose above it, and have come out stronger this year. Yes, we were hurt, and it broke down some trust we had in some people. We lost friends and family members that we loved and trusted. We are bent, but we are not broken. After that, I chose not to come back here and fuel the fires of the cowardly and the bullies.

    Sadly, now I hear my extended family is being attacked, even more viciously, with vile, cruel, and untrue things being said. Even others pretending to be them and saying the most evil things about their SL and RL. Enough is enough.

    I’ve known my godfamily the Gilmans and my sister Kara almost as long as I’ve been in SL, 8-9 years now – Much longer and much better than any of you spewing your jealousy, hatred, and sad, self loathing onto them. I can tell you that they are among the finest people I’ve ever known in SL or RL. You would be lucky to call them friend or family. They give of themselves more than you will ever know. They love, they cry, they hurt, they smile, they trust, and they feel the same as you do. SL is not a game to them/us. It’s a place where real people meet other real people and form real friendships/relationships. How or why we choose to incorporate roleplay into that friendship is nobody else’s business. Live your SL how you want to, and stop being so judgmental about everyone else’s. Don’t like the Gilman’s? Who cares? There are people I don’t like in SL too, but I do have enough self respect and integrity within myself not to hide behind this stupid website and attack them. What good does it do? Do you think you’re going to change the minds of the people that love them and have known them for years and make them turn their backs on them? Not even close.

    So, to the ones that created this website and allow….no, support and encourage…this kind of behavior from the lowest of humanity, I am asking you to close this evil place. Or at the very least disable comments, especially the vile, disgusting, mean-spirited ones. Refuse to post any mean secrets and comments, period. Make it a place of positivity only. You have the power.

    Btw….don’t bother commenting to me. I’ve said my peace, and I won’t be back here, so you’re wasting your breath.

    • So now the incest loving Christens jumping in to rescue the great Gilmans. Your side of that family is just as mean and fucked as the other. Going to sick your big brother Troy on us next? He seems the only one with any sense in that entire family of funk even if hes a female in real. Do the Gilmans know that? Bet they dont. Just go back to your little incest hole with Eric and Cade and your other incest loving members and keep hiding.

    • Lol and here come the Christens aka buttmunchers! Chelsea, you’re moron that buttfucks with the Gilman’s so what you say is pointless. I’m waiting to see if the queerbag shemale Justin pops up in here to save the day! lol you bunch of damn idiots!

    • Avenger, dash, Cade and Eric must teach the other kids in the family how to stick their Legos in each other holes. Just a sick bunch of people. They think they are better than the rest of us. We all know how they are now.

    • Obviously some people feel differently about the Gilman family than you do and they are entitled an opinion that is opposite of yours. Just as you are allowed your opinion of them. Obviously if they didn’t care about what people on this website we’re saying about them they wouldn’t keep sending people here to post in the defense of them. They wouldn’t keep posting on plurk about it and they wouldn’t keep whining about it. If people are saying they are mean to them and have done nasty things to them then there has to be at least some truth in it as well. It really comes down to the fact that you should always treat others how you want to be treated because at the end of the day no one is perfect. The lies and bullying have gone on for years from some of the Gilman family and it seems they have made quite a few enemies in my opinion.

      (Justin Christenson is related to the Gilmans in some form via the rest of the family olive tree that has posted here.)

      • Hey Dip! People come here to defend because they KNOW its not true, they are using their real name in SL because they are not afraid of your words and they know you are full of lies. So lets go over this again, people who love this family will do one of two things, one come here and defend and two say nothing because they know how good these people are and how they do not deserve what is happening here to them. No one asked me to come post and I know others that were asked not to fuel into your drama moggers but I am an adult who could understand that an anon attacking someone else reflects more on the poster than anyone else keep making us laugh and ps. the christensons are not related to the gilmans ormy family

      • Outside the fact that you look like a dip now. I personally have found where fire starts, generally smoke rises from that fire. So all I said was that at times the truth is at least somewhat legitimate in some claims. “No one in life is perfect.” If anyone feels that perfection is achievable in this world then they have bigger problems than my passive post on this board. If I want to post here as an anonymous person that is a decision that I have made and it’s none of your business why I choose to do so. All you people coming on here calling people names like cowards and scum of the earth aren’t helping the situation either. That is just throwing gasoline on a fire and fanning the flames to make it an inferno. It did get out of hand on both sides from the anonymous people and the Gilman family/friends as well. Like I said above no one entire person or clan of people are perfect and if people think that status in life is achievable they have bigger problems than a single post on this board.

  7. The amount of immaturity and poor grammar going on in this SL secrets is a disgrace to the Second Life community as a whole. You wonder why people talk shit about this game, well here is a great example as to why.

    For those of you feeding into the bullying and immaturity of comments, just stop. The more you try to defend someone, the more you feed the people who don’t feel good about themselves to have to really bring others down so they can feel like they are bringing themselves up.

    For those bullies and the people talking shit about others, grow the balls to give out your in-game name. The reason you choose to hide is because you wouldn’t be able to handle people putting you out on blast and talking shit about you. Yet you feel like it is okay for you to call people out and talk shit about them?

    Hypocrisy, immaturity, and a lack of education and respect is what you all are showing and poorly representing the Second Life community. Please go get help and re-evaluate YOUR OWN lives before you go trying to judge others.

  8. You guys are fucking idiots, I hope you’re all happy that you not only bashed and slandered a 15 year old minor on here, but managed to cut people down for what they’ve done in the past… are you all fucking saints? You made no mistakes? you didn’t talk shit behind anyone RL and SL? that you have a right to cast stones at this family? Call me crazy but do you guys not see the turmoil you guys have done to these people? Bringing up their RL personal shit onto here when you claim then hurt you in a VIRTUAL game? You see how pathetic you are? We all come on here to get away from our RL stress, to have fun, whatever the reason you come on here for, and you have the audacity to steal other peoples’ SL? and for what? to talk shit behind their backs because they did you wrong on a virtual game? I hope you shit talkers DO NOT reproduce your children with such hate. And if you are a child behind this virtual world I hope YOU get your ass up and experience the real world since you think its right to bash people on here.

    and all you people saying kid/family community are “shady”, whatever it is you do in sl that makes you happy to you hear us saying anything about the furry world? the bdsm world? the gorean world? the club world? the “troll” world? <– I say troll world cause i know a few of you have a sick enjoyment of breaking other people down and making them angry for pure entertainment, which alone is just sick to even think about…

    I really hope this site starts to require the real sl names of people with passwords and all. Start calling out the fake people on here for their 'juicy' gossip, that right there is FAR more juicier. Knowing the people that have the balls to talk shit about you behind your backs, but suck your asshole when they see you.

    #Loyalty

  9. There is no smoke without fire. The Gilmans are no saints and they for sure have done faults. Problem is they apply double standards. When someone do something wrong, they haunt them down to the end of the world. But when the person is one of their family, it is not a big deal and tell people shut up. And of course it makes people upset. This is why people appears to come up with negative comments.

    • I don’t know any family in SL or RL that is perfect.
      I think you’re foolish to think that they would see someone’s wrong, just because said person is in their family, as ‘not a big deal’. Just because they are not publicly shaming that person, doesn’t mean they haven’t dealt, or are even still dealing, with the issue. The difference between when a family member wrongs you in RL or SL….is that you are a bit more compassionate and easier to forgive (or at least try harder to) someone you are bonded with.
      It’s easier for people, not just the Gilmans, to wag their finger at strangers.
      That’s a matter of how our RL society works sadly. Social medias, tabloids, tv gossip shows, etc.
      I think it’s time for people to stop pointing fingers at the Gilmans, the Kennedys, the Oleanders, and anyone else.
      Afterall, the saying goes; “when you point your finger at someone else, you have three pointing back at you.”

    • Funny because I have heard they have not been around for over a year now, yet they are haunting down people and this is what they deserve? YOU the poster of the anon deserve this, noot them.

  10. Just wow! I read about this on plurk and can’t believe my eyes. Why in the world people would want to bring more attention to this is beyond me. However it has opened my eyes to how the Gilman family really is and can be. Just wow.

  11. If you have no idea who the Gilman family is she has a nice blog with all her family listed. Now all of the names have faces for me since I’ve no idea who any of the named people are. Seem like a nice family to me… but idk

    Biography of : Jill Gilman (aka) jill.caldera
    Married to the love of my both lives, Gattz
    Proud Mother to our wonderful kids!
    Extended Profile: http://jillcaldera.weebly.com
    Family Blog: http://gilmanslittlewonders.weebly.com

    • Thank you for having your own mind, you hit the head on the nail about the person we love.

      From a family member of the Gilmans

      • Just because she posts a family blog of role play scenarios does not mean that is how she really is in second life. That is all provided to cover up the nastiness they do to people and the shit they say about them in these big large skype calls they have.

      • They just don’t know your family is a bunch of wackos, and sleep together.

  12. I would like to thank each and everyone who commented on proving how 99% of us people in SL think about the whole kid/family community. You are a bunch of fucking whack jobs!

  13. I know for a fact that they have the sl children they adopt voice verified to prove they are the same sex in real life as in second life. I pray to god that one day that child doesn’t turn trans gender if the parent can’t accept it here how can they accept it in real life.

    Corbin you are the except to this rule because all you do is fucking lie and bully everyone.

  14. I know for a fact that they have the sl children they adopt voice verified to prove they are the same sex in real life as in second life. I pray to god that one day that child doesn’t turn trans gender if the parent can’t accept it here how can they accept it in real life.

    Corbin you are the except to this rule because all you do is fucking lie and bully everyone.

  15. Anyone else wondering just how many of the above negative posts about the Gilmans is really RyanT Bluemood? He never could accept being kicked out of the family not once but how many times? No one likes you Ryan. No one trust you Ryan. The only reason you are still in the family you are in is because they are misfits themselves. Undesirables just like you. None of you have anywhere to go. No one wants you. Just leave for real this time please.

    • Well you see, I never got “kicked” I left. Did I try to go back in yup yup but was not allowed.

      Do I belive Jill and Corbin back stab everyone, yes yes I do. But I could care less about sitting here trash talking all day. I have better things to do, like rubbing one out.

      • He kissed ass to the Heritage family and sucked all their dicks there LOL he found new people to cause drama too

      • Hey if dick sucking is where it’s at to get in a family these days. I got two hands. Seems you need your dick sucked to man

      • naaah my dick is just fine, i don’t need to suck peoples dick or pretend that i’m dying for people to like me 🙂

      • Naw your right your the type to kiss ass for those to like you, i mean your proving my point with the comments you made about him! Sad Sad Sad..

      • It’s the same thing dumbass, dick ass whatever you prefer to yluse since you like to take things literally who are you his mommy?

    • I wonder if it’s you doing the hate on the gilmans and not Ryan. Seems like he was only protecting himself from above comments.

      • No actually I wouldn’t waist my time. However, I did happen to notice the time after each of the posts and pretty much put it together. Hope that cleared it up for you.

      • That’s cool man blame me that’s fine to me, how I am used to being the escape goat when it comes to that family anyhow. So does not hurt my feels.

      • scapegoat lmao ….but with that being said I think you’re getting a raw deal by being blamed and I liked when you said you’d rather rub one out. Carry on Blueboy!

      • Neither I don’t hide whom I am behind anonymous cowardliness.

      • Well Rune that only leaves your ass kissing girlfriend left Darla thanks for clearing that up for us. Plus with your plurks last night saying this board should display IP adresses was rather interesting by the way that Darla has her head up your ass as far as it will go. You can both enjoy jelly donuts like the poster below said.

      • Actually unlike nameless anonymous trolls I only speak for myself and don’t throw acquisitions out against people from behind the cover of anonymity. I asked you on my plurk and will ask you here. Get off my timeline. This will be the last time I respond here to anything.

        Bye!

      • No I think I’ll stay on your timeline Rune. Unlike you I’m not stupid enough to leave because you probably have a list of names you are keeping track of on your timeline to see who leaves. But here gum shoe is a box of jelly donuts for you an darla to share why you play the game of clue.

      • Hahahahaha. Jelly donut nam nam nam. Eeeeps Darla and Rune best fat ass match in second life.

  16. Please for the love of God, close these comments, it has gotten out of hand

  17. You know, I’m sitting here reading these comments, and i’m sick to my stomach that you all think so terribly of the Gilmans.
    No matter the amount of fuck ups I have had in my second life, they are always the first ones with open arms waiting to hug me and tell me they love me NO matter what.
    That to me? Is people you want to surround yourself with, the type you SHOULD choose to surround yourself with.
    I love them with all of my heart, and those who are saying these awful things about them really need to grow the fuck up, stop being jaded and maybe if you get to know them, you’ll see what you’re missing out on.
    Jill, Gattz. I love you guys, You to Muffin.

    • Yes they will open their arms for you. And while you are worshiping them, they would laugh at you on skype call. You didn’t know? Maybe you need to try harder to be included in that call. Good luck kissing their butt.

      • They will always open arms. And fuck you by back talking you in a Skype call with their kids. I mean come on now. That’s how families do it these days.

  18. LOL this only reenforces why I think SL kids and family role play is just fucking shady, it just is!

  19. To all the family roleplayers on sl (and their haters), from the perspective of someone who has never been involved in a roleplay community and doesn’t understand it…I wonder if you forget that you are just a bunch of adult children playing a fucked up game of pretend? Your fake relation to your sl hookup? Irrelevant. The actual age or gender of the people behind the avatar? Also irrelevant. And if someone does become aware of a minor being involved, then be the adult and report them to the lindens.

  20. Oh look. My secrets about Sands weren’t posted 🙂

    Could you stop being an ass kisser, Lourdes?

    • No secrets about Sands nor Brie were posted and a couple of others at the request of Kess who owns and pays for the site.

      You have a problem with that? Deal with it.

      • and yet other people and topics get slammed week after week until people are sick of them (shoewhore and family drama, anyone?) you may pay for the site, but if you’re going to have a free-for-all, make it a free-for-all for everyone and not censor secrets that don’t align with your own agenda.

        i for one like Brie’s secrets and am disappointed not to see one of her positive notes this week.

      • Brie decided not to continue posting her secrets. That was her own decision.

    • Just what we need… yet another overly-posted Sands secret that no one really cares about.

  21. The best thing about this week’s SL Secrets? No ‘cheesy’ Brie !!! YAY

  22. This is SL, it is meant to be fun, a place for creativity, for imagination.
    I wish more people would remember that instead of bullying each other.

    You are all amazing people in your own rights.

    Just enjoy life..

    For the sake of making it clear, I do not know any of the people involved in any of the secrets..
    I am not defending anyone..

    I just wish people could relax and enjoy life.

    Free hugs to everyone!

  24. Oh Devin you’re just as bad. How about those friends you had where the mother also played the child and went from fucking the dad to sitting on his lap as a kid. Mhmm that’s not weird or creepy at all.
    Stop firing bullets for people who give no fucks about you and actually get a clue about what’s going on. Get off Amanda’s leash and get out in the real world

    • You want to stop hiding behind an anonymous website. Come talk to me in person if you have an issue with me. Treat people with civility if you want to be treated in the same fashion. Otherwise you’ll just look like a coward that hides behind a computer screen.

  25. Hope someone reports you for plagerism of the website that is my name.

  26. The Gilman’s are a bunch of fuckheads that fuck each other up the ass in real life and second life and are a great example of incest.

  27. I hope people reported the underage kid. And I hope LL locks his account in the near future.

    • I really think you need to check the most current LL ToS not the outdate crap on google. With his rl parents permission (which he has) he is allowed to play SL. Anyone age 13 to 15 can play SL with their parents permission. Ages 16 -18 may play without parental permission but still must remain PG.

  28. To all the negative comments towards the subjects of #7. Grow up. Nobody cares what you think. Do everyone a favor and remove yourself from our lives. We don’t care about you. If you have been treated unfairly or wrongly. This is proof as to why that might have been because you are incredibly judgemental and nothing more than a troll and a stain on the coffee table.

    Is your life really so pathetic and jaded that you have to post about this anonymously on this website? Seek professional help.

    • Good to know you support the endangerment of a minor and the possible mental issues that will face this young man in the future from his interactions with adults on second life that may not be in his best interests. Playing a father to someone that is well over the legal age being one of those. Dating women far older than he is would be another one as well. Legal liability will include you to for knowing it and not reporting it to the proper authorities.

      • Firstly, please know your facts before you ramble on nonsense. Jadin is not dating anyone in SL before you go spreading untrue rumors. Devin and I are his RP parents and have been since Decemember. He never hid his RL age from us. We keep our home a 100% PG environment, it is a safe family home where we monitor everything and keep it closed. He is turning 16 in a few short months so I genuinely do not think there is any need for so much concern. He keeps his SL behavior and places he visits to a strictly PG atmosphere. I could understand your concern if he was off going to strip clubs and Gorean RP sims, but he isn’t. Most of our time together is spent at home, playing games, chatting or assisting him with studying for his RL midterms and homework every night. Jadins parents are divorced in RL and he is forced to switch back and forth between his mom and dads house every other day, so we try to give him a stable family environment here. You might think he’s annoying because he is hyper at times but so what? If you don’t like it or him, mute him. In the time I’ve grown to know him, he has been nothing but truthful and I have not seen him behave in an inappropriate manner. His RL parents know that he plays SL with us and have given their consent. There are worse things a teenage boy could be doing on the internet than RPing with a foster family who act as mentors for him and making social friends who share common interests with him such as musicals and Dr. Who. I genuinely hope that you can see things from our side because I would be heart broken to lose this amazing person whom I have come to know and love.

      • You have to be 13 to play SL with your parents permission which he has. So, maybe everyone should read the rules because it really just makes THEM look dumb.

      • Just my opinion, but why would you even think it’s ok to “Adopt” someone who says they are that young in RL?!
        No way would my child who is almost 15 be allowed to play sl. You cannot watch a child 24/7 and while they might not be doing anything wrong, they are being exposed to a whole world more than they need to be whether it’s intentional or not. You cannot control what other people they come in contact do or have in their profiles.
        What happens if say this person comes around someone for some reason, with naked pictures in his profile and now that person is displaying “porn” to a minor.
        Not everyone he comes into contact with realises he is underage. I know this because it’s happened to people just this week. And that’s not exactly fair to those people.
        Jadin may not be dating now but has dated previously and honestly, he just shouldn’t be having an adult avatar.
        If you really have his best interests at heart, you would encourage him to not play an adult avatar until he actually is grown – not just 16.
        Better yet tell him to go be a kid and not play this game until he’s grown. There’s a whole world for him and all the other rl teenagers to explore and grow in.

      • Even is he does come in contact with them he will know what decision to make. Are you so bored and without a life that you need to tell people how to run theirs? It can happen RL or SL that he is exposed to it. It is a part of life. You are right though you cant shelter a kid forever he is going to learn it somewhere after all he is 16 idiot. It is his business whether or not to tell everyone who he comes in contact with that he is 16 not yours. It is not fair for you to tel him to run his SL. You are not his parents. He has parents and I am sure doesn’t need more butting their big fat nose in . So why dont you go get a second life or third one if need be and butt the hell out.

      • Right and if I was his parent, he sure as eggs would not be in sl with people like you. I don’t believe I did tell him how to run his life or sl … however if he wants to play the big boy game then he needs to act like it and be responsible and let others be informed as to whether they wish to interact with a rl child. Because yes, 16 is still a child. So yes it is my business when he tps into where I am.
        And since it’s on a public forum we’re all entitled to our opinions, not just you.

        Why are you so upset though? Major issues somewhere there.

      • If you dislike him so much or don’t want him around you then USE THE MUTE BUTTON. SL has that as an option for a reason. No one cares how you would raise your kids or what you wouldn’t allow them to do. You are not Jadins rl mom or dad. They have the authority not you. And they allow him to use SL. So mind your own business and mute him and problem solved. Gods people make mountains out of mole hills.

      • People like me? Really you dumb cunt? You are trying to tell his parents how to raise their child. Oh if he was my kid.. blah blah blah who cares. Who do you think you are that you can tell people how to raise their kids or run their SL? What makes you an expert? do you have credentials? No? then go eat a big bowl of STFU. Judge not lest ye be judged. How do you know he isn’t being responsible? Who are you to regulate someone elses SL? Were you appointed by his SL or RL parents? If not then do us all a favor and go stick your nose up someone elses’ ass. People like you and all these other people on here are the whole reason people don’t tell their their real age. That is his business and his parents business not yours. Do you go around telling everyone you meet your age and that you are a cunt. So if it bothers you so much mute him and be done with it. Or you can be the bigger person and conveniently leave no one is making you stay if it makes you uncomfortable. Do you just need something to whine about and jump on the band wagon? I didn’t say you weren’t entitled to your opinion but you need to go get a life and get off the computer and out of SL I think it has rotted what little bit of a brain you have. DAB. why am I upset because of stupid people like you trying to tell people how to run their SL. Obviously I didn’t make that clear in my first post or you are too dumb to figure it out.

      • Too bad he has dated someone in SL that was an adult. During the time he was telling everyone that he was 19 🙂

      • Jill has said herself that she thinks that Jadin is annoying, and that she doesnt like him OOC. In fact, all of the Gilmans have admitted they find him annoying OOC.

        They will deny it because they are all about real as a spray tan. Every single one of them will talk shit about the others behind their backs. They are our model family in second life. 🙂

        The real reason they aren’t putting on a winter camp is because they’re too busy in Gor to pull themselves away for it.

      • I have put my name up here because I stand by what I say and I don’t need to hide behind the anonymity of this site. I am not related in any way to the family so I don’t have a vested interest in them or anyone else but I am angered by what I read on here because REAL people are affected by it.

        Whoever made the original secret and those of you that are now going on to slam the Gilmans behind some anonymous post have you stopped to think about the affect that your words will have on these individuals. You go on about it being a game but there are real people behind these screen with real feelings and who are no doubt hurting as a result of this slander.

        I speak from experience when I say that I have NEVER heard Jill say a bad word about Jadin especially OOC infact on occassions when we have spoken about him she has had nothing but praise for him. I have no doubt that he might get on her nerves at times but then who doesn’t. That’s what families/friendships are all about people that spend long amounts of time together will wind each other up from time to time and to whoever wrote this to blow it up out of all proportion is simply ridiculous.

        As for Jadin whilst I think there is merrit in him not having an adult av until he is an adult it also has nothing to do with anyone else. Yes in the past he might have lied but have you ever heard the saying “he is without sin may cast the first stone?” People learn from their mistakes and no doubt Jadin learned from his. He is as open as he can be about his age and it should be of no concern to others providing as his parents here have said he stays in pg areas and pg activities.

        So please think about the effects that these `anonymous` words you are all so keen to slander and stop hiding behind that anonymity and release that what you are doing is slander and harrassment and no one deserves that.

        What family is without any skeletons in their closet? So what if the Gilmans or anyone else for that matter go to Gor. Maybe its becuase its a stress relief a chance to be where there isnt any of the baggage of being a Gilman or maybe its for kinky sex .. the point is what the hell should it matter to anyone.

        As I say I am impartial and there may be things I am unaware of but again I say “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”

      • Hollie, I don’t know why you are sucking so much Gilman butt right now. Of course you haven’t heard her say anything about him because you’ve never been in a Jill Gilman bashing everyone and their mother Skype call. Pull your head out of her ass.

        By the way, I’m so tired of people saying “Oh you’re just jealous.” No one is fucking jealous of anyone associated with them. Pointing out people’s flaws to the masses on an anonymous platform does not = jealousy. This site gives people the opportunity to say things they want to say without the social shunning that would come with sticking up to the (unfortunately) “popular” family or people in second life. Does that make me a pussy? Sure. Do I care? No.

        Jadin is disgusting. He tricked some poor innocent adult woman into dating him and having some sense of a sexual relationship since they were going to have a baby. So, no he does not live his SL life PG. He’s also the biggest annoying shit on SL because he is only a child. And secondlife, no matter how PG you attempt to make it, IS NOT A PLACE FOR PEOPLE UNDER 18. Who gives a fuck what the TOS says about age. It’s wrong. I would never let my 15 year old play on second life. NO FUCKING WAY.

        Jadin, go the fuck outside and make some real friends. SL is not a healthy environment for someone your age who has already dabbled in age play and trickery.

      • You aren’t his RL parents so your argument has no valid stance. Go take care of your own kids that you’re probably neglecting because you’re too busy being sucked into SL Secrets newest drama fest. Jadin may have made mistakes in the past but who hasn’t? Have you never fucked up in your life and learned from it and moved on? Or are you so innocent and blameless that we should award you a sainthood? Jadin is not currently breaking LL TOS rules and he has his RL parents permission so shut the hell up already damn. If you don’t like LL TOS then DON’T PLAY. Nobody cares how you would parent him in RL if he was your kid because he isn’t. Go worry about your own kids.

      • I don’t recall Hollie mention anything about jealousy in her post. I wonder why you do, Lies? Freudian slip perhaps?

        You talk like you have perhaps been in one of these “Jill bash everyone” calls? Tell us more about how we should take you remotely seriously when you are just some anonymous nickname out there.

        Honestly, I think you’re just here to get on the people-bashing bandwagon because it somehow makes you feel better about your own pathetic existence. People only feel the need to vomit unfounded crap against others when they have something of their own to hide. Let’s hope the internet doesn’t get hold of your “dirty little secrets”. Then you might just find out what it’s like to be a victim of cyber bullying.

        Let them who is with or without sin mind their own fucking business. 😛

        Grow up, Lies. You already seem to display less maturity here than the real kids you seem to hate so much.

      • I don’t recall Hollie mention anything about jealousy in her post. I wonder why you do, Lies? Freudian slip perhaps?

        You talk like you have perhaps been in one of these “Jill bash everyone” calls? Tell us more about how we should take you remotely seriously when you are just some anonymous nickname out there.

        Honestly, I think you’re just here to get on the people-bashing bandwagon because it somehow makes you feel better about your own pathetic existence. People only feel the need to vomit unfounded crap against others when they have something of their own to hide. Let’s hope the internet doesn’t get hold of your “dirty little secrets”. Then you might just find out what it’s like to be a victim of cyber bullying.

        Let them who is with or without sin mind their own fucking business. 😛

        Grow up, Lies. You already seem to display less maturity here than the real kids you seem to hate so much.

      • Lies just to put the record straight I am not sucking Gilman butt or any other thanks. I am merely trying to give a balanced account and defend a friend and her family from what has become nothing more than mob mentality hiding behind the anonymity status this site provides. Not that it has anything to do with you but actually I have spent several hours in skype with Jill. Jill is a friend and I am not the type to sit back and let my friends be slandered especially when there is no substance to these hateful claims.

        Regarding Jadin who you say is so disgusting and speak to in such an abusive manner and that you seem to have so much hatred for I ask you to think for one moment. He is a 15 year old child which means he is still young and impressionable and will not have the social maturity to deal with such hatred that is being thrown at him on this site. Please stop for a moment and realise the impact that this might have on a very young mind.

        I don’t disagree that Jadin having a relationship with an adult was wrong but I do disagree it makes him disgusting. In my eyes it makes him simply a young adolescent boy that probably thought all his Christmases had come at once. Unfortunately there were other people involved in that situation and they got hurt. That really is unfortunate but again I say it doesn’t make Jadin disgusting. Making mistakes is part of life and growing up. The fact that he no longer engages in that activity and is open about his age shows he is growing and maturing.

        As for Jadin being annoying I’d say he is like most other 15 year old boys which can be hyper and over the top at times. But I can also say there are far more annoying people around than Jadin that don’t have the excuse of age for their immaturity. There are also an awful lot of people around that don’t think he is annoying. Such a statement is of course entirely subjective.

        As an `outsider` looking in, it appears to me that Jadin whilst having made mistakes in the past has now found himself a network in which he can get the parental influence that he seems to be getting in a positive way. Should his rl parents be providing that rather than SL seudo parents? Yes of course they should but if he is no longer doing any harm then what does it matter to anyone else if he wants to be part of a seudo family. If his RL parents are content and his SL ones are making sure that he doesn’t engage in adult activities then what harm is it to anyone else.

        You are right in that this site gives people the opportunity to say as they want anonymously and I am all for freedoom of speach but that is no excuse to attempt to destroy someone like is being done with the Gilmans. Its nothing more than mob mentality and bullying.

      • This was probably one of the most eloquent and mature posts I’ve ever seen on this site. You hit the mark on all of your points. Thank goodness someone here has common sense and wisdom instead of slaunderous words to say.

      • Keep living that fantasy that she’s your real friend and doesn’t talk shit the moment you hang up. She’s done it to me, my friends and family, her own kids, God kids, and grand kids. Go ahead and don’t believe me all you want. I really don’t care. I’m out of this conversation with you because the nazi loyalist thing she has installed in you is extreme. You arent an “outside” party. You’re a full fledge gilman loyalist. Drank too much koolaid. Have fun defending people who literally don’t give a shit about you.

      • Writing under my adult’s display name not to hide behind some fake name or like other here grossly impersonating other people. But so people can get in contact with me if they want to talk about this like civilized adults. Not just toss up slanderous vile without a shred of proof.

        I’m sorry you don’t like my SL Mother. I am sorry you feel the need to lie and nothing I can say will change that fact in your mind. I am truly sorry you feel you’ve been hurt to such an extent to write these things. I am sorry for you. I am sorry you are projecting your own personal undocumented experiences in skype and SL onto every interaction ever made.

        Have a nice life.

        Runestar Twine/ Zachary Gaston Gilman

        Oh I’m also sorry you had to invoke Godwin’s law into all this.

      • Someone else made the jealous comment. So instead of making 123 posts about different things I made one. So sorry I did not post how you wanted me to!!! Hollie used her name and I don’t believe for one second she’s been in any Skype calls with the Gilmans. If she had she would know I’m being truthful. So just because I used a word for my name on here for my posts doesn’t mean anything other than I wanted to remain anonymous. You can or cannot believe me. I really don’t care. And yes her posts are more thoughtful and I probably seem super childish. I’m stuck on my phone making these posts (which is really hard to do actually, maybe look into a mobile version please!) while Hollie is probably on her computer and has the luxury of looking back at my previous postings and making more sound comments. Thanks to a broken computer I’m unable to do the same. But I’m out of this conversation because the koolaid is way too strong in here. And my days of being an extreme gilman party loyalist have been done since three camps ago.

      • Ah, so now there is a bit of biteback you no longer feel like playing? What’s the matter? Can’t stand a small taste of your own medicine?

        So from what I understand from your last posts, you seem to be asserting that anyone who doesn’t automatically buy into your bullshit is somehow automatically labelled an “extreme gilman party loyalist”? LMAO!

        Seriously? Sounds like you watch too much TV.

        For the record, I have never interacted with the Gilmans at any point, nor have I been to any camps so I am coming in from a truly objective standpoint and I think you come across as someone with a chip on their shoulder who is just out to see how much pain they can cause to someone else who happens to be more well known in the family community. Easy targets huh?

        If you have any evidence for your claims, then by all means, present them. Otherwise, be mature enough to take your criticism on the chin, own up to your cowardice and make a sincere apology to the people who you are so eager to slander on here.

      • I don’t recall Hollie mention anything about jealousy in her post. I wonder why you do, Lies? Freudian slip perhaps?

        You talk like you have perhaps been in one of these “Jill bash everyone” calls? Tell us more about how we should take you remotely seriously when you are just some anonymous nickname out there.

        Honestly, I think you’re just here to get on the people-bashing bandwagon because it somehow makes you feel better about your own seemingly sad existence. People only feel the need to vomit unfounded crap against others when they have something of their own to hide. Let’s hope the internet doesn’t get hold of your “dirty little secrets”. Then you might just find out what it’s like to be a victim of cyber bullying.

        Let them who are with or without sin mind their own business.

        Grow up, Lies. You already seem to display less maturity here than the real kids you seem to hate so much.

      • Just leave Jadin alone he did nothing wrong just because he is young

    • Best do some research Devin cause you are promoting the exploitation of a child in the current standings of second life and he can come to emotional harm because of it. He is only 15 years of age and he should be reported to Linden Labs.

      Child Abuse

      Physical, sexual, or emotional mistreatment or neglect of a child.

      Child Abuse has been defined as an act, or failure to act, on the part of a parent or caretaker that results in the death, serious physical or emotional harm, Sexual Abuse, or exploitation of a child, or which places the child in an imminent risk of serious harm (42 U.S.C.A. § 5106g). Child-abuse laws raise difficult legal and political issues, pitting the right of children to be free from harm, on the one hand, against the right of families to privacy and the rights of parents to raise and discipline their children without government interference, on the other.

      The mistreatment of children at the hands of parents or caretakers has a long history. For centuries, this behavior was shielded by a system of laws that gave children few, if any, rights. Under English Common Law, children were treated as property owned by the parents. Parents, particularly fathers, had great latitude over the treatment and discipline of children. This outlook was carried to the American colonies and incorporated into early laws in the United States.

      One of the first cases to bring national attention to child abuse arose in the early 1870s. An eight-year-old New York orphan named Mary Ellen Wilson complained of being whipped and beaten nearly every day by her foster family. Her case captured the attention of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA). An attorney for the ASPCA took Wilson’s case, arguing that as members of the animal kingdom, children are entitled to the same legal protections from cruelty as are animals. A judge heard evidence that Wilson’s foster family, the Connollys, routinely beat her, locked her in a bedroom, and made her sleep on the floor. Charged with Assault and Battery, Wilson’s foster mother was convicted and sentenced to one year of hard labor. Even more significantly, publicity surrounding Wilson’s case led to the establishment, in 1874, of the New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. The following year, the New York Legislature passed a statute that authorized such societies to file complaints of child abuse with law enforcement agencies.

      In 1962, an article in a major medical journal again brought national attention to the issue by identifying the symptoms that can indicate child abuse. The article, by Dr. Henry Kempe, appeared in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) and discussed a diagnosis for child abuse. The article resulted in widespread awareness of child abuse and prompted further public discussion on ways to address the problem. By 1970, every state had enacted laws requiring certain professionals, such as teachers and doctors, to report incidents of suspected child abuse to law enforcement agencies. In 1974, the Federal Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act (42 U.S.C.A. §§ 5105–5106) became law, authorizing federal funding for states to identify child abuse and to offer protective services for abused children.

      Statutes make up one component of a state’s child-protective services; another component, the child-protective services agency, implements the statutes. Reporting statutes, which vary from state to state, require that certain professionals report suspected child abuse, whereas others, such as neighbors, are entitled but not required to do so. Other statutes define child abuse. For example, in some states, officially recognized physical abuse occurs only when a child suffers a specified type of injury, whereas in other states, any serious injury that is not accidental in nature is considered abuse. Sexual abuse of children generally need not cause injury; any sexual act performed on a child can be considered abuse. Similarly, state statutes categorize as child abuse any neglect of a child that places the child at risk, regardless of whether the child is actually injured. Before substantiating a report of emotional abuse of a child, state statutes generally require a finding of actual harm. Still other statutes specify procedures for investigating child abuse, determining whether a report of abuse is substantiated, intervening to protect an abused child from further harm, and maintaining records of child abuse reports.

      When allegations of abuse meet the statutory definitions, the state’s child-protective services agency or a law enforcement agency steps in to investigate. Child-protective services agencies generally investigate allegations only when the child’s parent or guardian is suspected of causing the abuse or of allowing it to occur. Family Law presumes that the parent or guardian will protect the child from abuse by other parties and that he or she will contact law enforcement agencies to investigate incidents of abuse by other parties when the parent is not causing or allowing the abuse.

      Caseworkers for child-protective services investigate abuse allegations most commonly by interviewing or visiting with the child, the child’s parents or guardians, and other sources such as physicians and teachers. If an agent finds evidence that supports a conclusion that the child has been abused, the agency deems the allegations substantiated. The next step is intervention.

      Intervention can mean many different things. Frequently, when the risk of further abuse is immediate and significant, child-protective services agents will place the child temporarily in a foster home. Alternatively, agents may monitor the family or may provide counseling in order to curb the threat of abuse. If a family does not cooperate with the intervention efforts of child-protective services, the agency may take the case before a judge, who may determine that abuse or neglect has occurred. He or she may issue a court order mandating the agency’s intervention. In extreme cases, agents may remove the child from the home permanently; following a judicial termination of parental rights, the child is then placed for Adoption. Another function of state child-protective services is record keeping, which is accomplished through a system known as the central registry. The central registry contains information about child abuse reports—both substantiated and unsubstantiated—such as the names of the child and of the suspected abuser and the final determination made by the child-protective services worker. This system helps agents in investigating current reports of abuse because it allows them to compare any previous accusations, particularly within the same family. The registry also supplies statistics about child abuse, which help the agency and the state legislature to enact appropriate laws and policies and to provide adequate funding for child-protective services. In some states, other parties may have access to the registry. For example, a day-care center may check the registry before hiring employees, or an adoption agency may check the registry before placing an infant with a family.

      Few doubt that state child-protective services agencies provide a valuable service by responding to allegations of child abuse. But such agencies also have their critics. Many people who have been accused of child abuse, particularly parents, object to the way in which these agencies routinely remove children from their homes when child abuse is suspected. Children are traumatized by being taken from their parents, and allegations of abuse are frequently unfounded, these critics claim. Contentious Child Custody battles sometimes prompt false accusations of physical or sexual abuse, costing the accused time and money in the fight to reclaim their children and their reputations. Others object to the names of the accused being included on the central registry even when the accusations are unsubstantiated. The backlash against child-protective services spurred the establishment, in 1984, of an information and support group known as Victims of Child Abuse Laws (VOCAL). VOCAL claims to have thousands of members nationwide, and its members lobby for new laws that protect not only children but also parents who are falsely accused of being abusive or negligent.

      Despite increased legislation and penalties for child abuse, extreme cases continue to appear and to sustain the debates over child abuse laws. Such cases include the Schoo case in suburban Chicago, which received widespread media coverage. In December 1992, David Schoo, a 45-year-old electrical engineer, and his 35-year-old wife, Sharon Schoo, a homemaker, flew to Acapulco, Mexico, for a Christmas vacation, leaving their daughters, nine-year-old Nicole Schoo and four-year-old Diana Schoo, home alone. The Schoos provided their daughters only with cereal and frozen dinners to eat and a note telling them when to go to bed. One day during their parents’ absence, the girls left the house when a smoke alarm sounded. As they stood barefoot in the snow, a neighbor found them, learned of their situation, and called the police.

      The Schoos were arrested while still on the plane that returned them from Mexico nine days after they had left their children. Following their indictment on various state charges of child endangerment and cruelty, a Grand Jury also found evidence that the Schoos had beaten, kicked, and choked their children in order to discipline them. In April 1993, the Schoos plea-bargained, agreeing to serve two years of Probation and 30 days of house arrest while the girls remained in foster care. In August 1993, the Schoos agreed to give up their parental rights and placed their daughters up for permanent adoption.

      Another nationally publicized case raised questions regarding the effectiveness of child-protective services and implicated social workers charged with protecting the victim. Two-yearold Bradley McGee, of Lakeland, Florida, died in July 1989 from massive head injuries after his stepfather, 23-year-old Thomas E. Coe, repeatedly plunged him head-first into a toilet. Coe later testified that he had become angry when the child had soiled his pants. McGee’s 21-year-old mother, Sheryl McGee Coe, pleaded no contest to second-degree murder and aggravated child abuse for allowing her husband to abuse McGee, and received a 30-year prison sentence. Thomas Coe, convicted of first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse, received a sentence of life in prison.

      The McGee case alarmed the public not only because of the harsh physical abuse that caused the toddler’s death but also because of what many perceived to be a failure in the system that is designed to protect children like Bradley McGee. Two months before his death, Bradley had been living with foster parents owing to allegations of abuse at the hands of the Coes. Despite strong objections by the foster parents, caseworkers for Florida’s Health and Rehabilitative Services returned McGee to his mother and stepfather, determining them to be fit parents.

      Public reaction was strong following the news of Bradley’s death. Four social workers were prosecuted for negligently handling the case, but only the main caseworker, Margaret Barber, was convicted, for disregarding a report from a psychologist who had warned that the Coes were unfit parents. The publicity shed light on problems within Florida’s child-protective services agency, including severe understaffing, and led to new laws that emphasize keeping children safe over keeping families together and that also increase funding for more social workers. A Florida appellate court later overturned Barber’s felony conviction but left standing a misdemeanor conviction for failing to report child abuse.

      In 1997, a controversial court decision led to a new legal concept: abuse of an unborn child. Traditionally, courts have refused to hold a woman who causes injuries to her own fetus criminally liable for the injuries. But in August 1977, the Supreme Court of South Carolina affirmed the criminal conviction of a woman whose crack cocaine usage while pregnant caused the fetus to be born with cocaine in its system, (Whitner v. State, 328 S.C. 1, 492 S.E. 2d 777 [1997]). By regarding the fetus as a person, the 3–2 majority concluded that the mother was guilty of criminal child neglect. In January 2003, the state court revisited its holding in Whitner when it voted 3–2 to uphold the 12-year sentence of a woman who had been convicted under the state’s homicide-by-child-abuse law after her cocaine use had resulted in a stillbirth. (State v. McKnight, 353 S.C. 238, 577 S.E. 2d 456 [2003]).

      In early 2002, a major child-abuse scandal involving priests shook the Catholic Church. Although child-abuse litigation against priests is hardly new, the public was shocked by the revelation that senior church officials had covered up the facts about widespread abuse. Beginning with allegations against church officials in Massachusetts, the scandal swiftly became national in scope. By year’s end, 432 U.S. priests had resigned; at least 1,205 more had been accused of child sex abuse; church officials paid hundreds of millions of dollars to settle victims’ lawsuits; and seven grand jury probes continued nationwide.

      At the epicenter of the scandal was Boston-based Cardinal Bernard F. Law. Following the molestation conviction of former priest John Geoghan in January 2002, it emerged that Law had known of Geoghan’s abuse during the 1980s yet had merely reassigned him to a new parish. More abuse ensued and ultimately led to over $10 million in settlements with victims. As fresh allegations emerged throughout the year, Law came under bitter public rebuke for allegedly shielding abusive priests from scrutiny, footing their legal bills, and either allowing them to remain on the job or reassigning them to new, unsuspecting parishes. Critics charged that such policies failed to protect children. With church attendance and donations reportedly in decline, the U.S. Conference of Bishops responded by instituting a policy requiring bishops to report abuse allegations to civil authorities. The church also began cleaning house: Following a meeting with the Pope, Law resigned in December 2002.

      With most investigations continuing in 2003, grand juries probed possible criminal actions by church officials in Massachusetts, New York, Philadelphia, Phoenix, St. Louis, Los Angeles, and Cincinnati. Even with Law and seven bishops under subpoena, and with evidence of what was called an elaborate cover-up, Massachusetts attorney general Thomas Reilly dampened expectations for a criminal prosecution, due to barriers under state law to holding a superior liable for the actions of a subordinate. In New York, which concluded its probe in February 2003, no charges were brought because the five-year Statute of Limitations had expired. But grand jurors there issued a blistering 181-page report alleging that church officials had protected 58 sexually abusive priests and that they had intimidated victims in order to prevent legal action. The New York archdiocese denied the allegations.

      Legislation at the state and federal levels continues to change to meet the goal of protecting children from abuse and neglect while protecting families from the damage of false accusations.

    • Your sister, mom, dad, cousin, and aunt wants to jerk it with you.

  29. People who fuck with fundraisers are just waiting for karma to kick them. That is some low ass shit. I say publicly shame them.

  31. kid/family community is full of fake, back stabbing bitches with double or multiple standards. It’s not a news anymore.

    • just the kid / family community? I don’t think it’s solely the kid / family community, I think it’s SL in general. In fact, it’s RL in general too. There are fake, back stabbing people everywhere, in both worlds. That’s nothing new. It’s all about who you decide to associate with and what you choose to let bother you.

  32. here we go again, more family/kid drama on secrets! It’s as creepy on secrets as it is in-world… freaks.

  33. 3 & 4: thought this was secrets. Nothing about who those secrets are from or about is secret 😛

    • Did it to give the finger to the person who thought paying me what he owed me for labor meant buying my silence. When he finally paid me, he included a note that said this:

      “This payment is contingent on your removal of all online material concerning me and my identity posted on or after 3rd March 2015 (including Flickr, Plurk, Twitter, public Facebook posts, Tumblr and any other forum), and continued agreement to cease any association or public acknowledgement of me or my identity from hereonin, save that I grant you permission to monetise the completed (…) work and related artwork in any way you see fit, in perpetuity. (…) and all of its derivatives and related works are still owned by me. I also undertake to make no public statement concerning you from hereonin.”

      Trying to lawyer me through Paypal notes is absolute shit behavior.

      • Pretty sure you said it would go away if he paid you. But he paid you and you’re still bad mouthing him, just in a place you didn’t think he would see? This is about Sian and that comic.

      • I said I’d take the complaints down from my Flickr and Plurk. I never said I’d disavow knowledge of him. Adding that shit is stupid and it’s him trying to keep my mouth shut, same as him threatening to call the police on me for “blackmail” (which is fucking stupid). He’s afraid of being seen as a big hypocrite, he couldn’t even own up to what he did and apologize correctly on the fundraiser.

        I got some questions after the fundraiser ended, with people even thinking I was the writer. No way in hell am I taking flack for him.

  34. #7: Haven’t you learned by now, it’s about who you know/who has your back. Have the right people on your side in the family community and you can (literally) do whatever the fuck you want, including lie to people for years while destroying others doing the same.

    • Are we really surprised that the Gilman family once again is in the secrets? Incest is best between two of the children they have Dash and Avenge who are married on the adult avatars they play. The one named Corbin is actually a woman in real life but lied to everyone for years about being a man. #7 pertains Jayden a real life 15 year old playing a father to someone who is over the age of 21. Double standards from this family are seem to be acceptable, but if any other family tried this shit they would be slayed alive by the drama mongers. Oh by the way Jayden you are an annoying little shit that should get off second life and find some activities to do with people in the same age bracket as you. To the girl he is was with or might be with in the future its considered statutory rape to be with someone under the age of 18 in most states. Hope his parents don’t find out what he’s doing online or he is going to cause the whole lot of you some serious trouble. Oh by the way please keep up your dramatic family antics because its lovely popcorn watching on second life secrets!

      • Who the fuck cares about pixel incest? I’ve seen way, way creepier things in SL than two people who pretend to be siblings on one avatar married on others. At least they’re not walking around covered in latex, with giant boobs dripping stuff. Seriously, get your panties out of that twist and learn to be outraged at things that actually deserve some outrage. I’ve seen some creepy, creepy shit in SL and a little pixel incest doesn’t even rate in my top 100.

        If someone has proof on a person being underaged, report them to LL and be done with it. Or just let him go for another year and he’ll be legal to be in SL – 16 and 17 year olds are allowed now as long as they’re on G sims.

      • He was once dating a woman that considers herself an adult baby in real life. If you don’t know what that is look it up on google. How much freakier can this family get?

      • Jill who persecutes anyone she considers to be a family hopper but has had more families than anyone else in SL.
        The Gilmans have a long history of underage kids in their family. Avenge was underage for years when he joined their family before it was ok for kids to be off the teen grid.
        Then there’s the rp in Gor. Let’s think back a few years when she led witch hunts on others for rp’ing in Gor but it’s now ok for her to have a family there and double dip.
        Maybe drop the superior attitude. It’s old and stop ripping people off for camp. What expenses can you really have when Gattz makes a lot of the sim and you have the same old things there. No profits my arse. We all know how much you cash out.

      • oh You’re such a delight to have around. Go take your happy pills

      • Oh for starters, lets set things straight.
        1. The correct spelling of the avatar you are speaking about is not Jayden, it is Jaiden and he is the Reid family – not the Gilmans. So feel free to correct that in your mind. Yes, he is underage and that was unknown for a long time to the people he was close with and as others have said, you have that option to report him to LL, feel free to do so.
        2. Dash and Avenge are not married on their adult avatars and for the person who does not have the brain power to understand that RL they are both adults who are NOT family. I know its a hard concept to understand when your a child but hopefully that cleared things up. You should try this wonderful exercise called “Getting a RL”, it starts with exiting from the GAME you play, asking your mother if you can go outside and play and exhibit normal activities instead of playing a puppet show of drama with yourself.
        3. Perhaps the only correct statement you said is Corbin is a woman in RL and did lie [No one can deny or defend that] but had Corbin had the courage to step up and speak freely and openly about his feelings. Again, this goes back to you learning how not to be an ignorant faceless bully on the internet. I find it actually comical that you are SO afraid of someone finding out who you are, that you cannot speak directly to the people you speak about, I shall do the same since you do not deserve the respect of being spoken to as an adult. Also, I should state, be careful who you trust because nothing in SL will be a secret forever.
        4. “Dramatic Family Antics”, as far as I know, there is no antics going on worth popping that bag of popcorn you have. Try a movie instead.
        5. So my take on this and I can be incorrect is either your family has had the spotlight on your own families drama and your upset that no one is getting hot under the collar about your pathetic attempts to cause drama? Not sure there but just from your comments, I take it your a bit bitter.

        To sum all of this up – Grow up because your acting younger than Jaiden is in RL, Log out and go find yourself some RL friends who possibly have some RL drama in which you can rip open that buttery popcorn for.

      • The bullying tons of people have put up from this family has finally caught up to them. As we can see more people hate them than love them.

      • What bullying are you speaking of?
        You seem to have a vendetta against this family, CrazyBiotch.
        Yet you know very little about them.
        Your assumptions make you look foolish.
        Sure you have a following of like-minded other halfwits;
        every village of idiots needs a king or queen.

      • anyone who disagrees with anyone on SL Secrets is immediatly a bully, didn’t you know.

      • Do you ever shut up Maddy? you’re probably like the rest of them that talk shit when something is posted about you on here LOLOL

      • Corbin what is up with you and the big dick comments? We all know you really have a blow up doll you like to get it on with in real life. You named her after your Gorean Master that likes to beat and whip you.

      • Why does any of this matter? Jadin is turning 16 soon. Does his presence in thus game really harm you? Does anyone believe you’re all whining because you care about his well being? No. Why is his happiness dependent upon your misery and vice versa? He dated in the past but if I recall that didn’t last long, and he is now out with his age. At least he is trying to be honest and right. Also, it’s role play. That means he takes on the persona of a fictional character in his family settings via sl. I’m sure it’s more than rp, but there’s always a line regardless. Unless you’re forced to be around him then it’s really not your business. If you are forced to be around him and it bothers you that much, then maybe you should leave the situation for your OWN happiness rather than wringing this boy by the neck. I bet you’ve never made a mistake and tried to make it better. I’m sure you’re just perfect.

      • So what have learned about the Gilman family in the last few days.

        1. They lie, bully, cheat, steal, beg, borrow, and do whatever else it takes to stay on top of the social ladder.
        2. Dash and Avenge love to bang each other on different avatars as adults.
        3. Corbin is really a woman that claims to have a a big dick and wants to share his ho Kara with Ryan.
        4. They approve of a married woman cheating on her husband in second life with another woman. That one is just completely fucked up.
        5. They use voice to verify your gender before they adopt you but somehow that lying piece of shit Corbin still got into the family.
        6. They post here under anonymous names.
        7. They think it’s ok for a minor child in real life to be a parent to someone that is probably twice his age no less. That will emotionally fuck up the poor sucker for life.
        8. Amanda and Devin somehow don’t see how it is wrong that they are harboring a minor who has likely had sex with an adult woman.
        9. The Gilman family plays in Gor which is fucked up shit because they are suppose to be so straight laced and such a shining example of a second life family.
        10. They have way more enemies than friends who have been here to defend them.
        11. That people don’t like them because they are lying backstabbers.
        12. They are big bullies on the internet.
        13. The real life adoption of a child should not be fodder for discussion on this board. Your own worse enemy should not be looked down upon for wanting to give an innocent child a home.
        14. Everyone needs to abuse report Jadin and get him thrown out of second life.

      • 1. I don’t think they’ve ever cheated, stolen, begged and borrowed anything from anyone. Where is your proof?
        2. Who cares what they do on their adult avatars, that is their business. Just like RL is their business. If they were doing things on their kid avatars with proof then there would be an issue worth discussion.
        3. Who really cares what a persons rl gender is? How does that affect you? How is it your business?
        4. Maybe Kara and her Husband are fine with having an open relationship when it comes to what she does or he does online? Again not your place to judge since you don’t know anything about their personal lives.
        5. Someone is probably just making the assumption that they voice verify to know their potential kids gender. Their reason for voice verifying is probably to keep away the crazies like someone already said.
        6. And you’re not using an anon name? Or is your name really bitch.
        7. Not really sure how playing house in a video game is going to emotionally fuck him up.
        8. They’ve only been his parents since december, anything Jadin may or may not have done prior to then isn’t really known to them. Also as you stated yourself you’re just making the assumption that he slept with older women.
        9. A lot of people play or have played in Gor, including probably you. They are adults, it is their free time to spend it how they want.
        10. Their friends don’t need to show their support here. I’m sure they support the Gilmans every day and visa versa because that is what real friends do. Adding to the drama here with their well meant encouragements would likely just add fuel to the fire for trolls like you.
        11. And what have they lied or backstabbed about? And even if they have, I’m sure apologies were offered but people in this game hold grudges over the pettiest shit for years and years just to have reasons to bring others down and cause a drama fest like this.
        12. I don’t think they are bullies. I think people like you are the bullies because you are getting enjoyment out of being a cruel person.
        13. I agree with you on this. Their RL adoption has no cause for discussion on this site.
        14. Abuse report him for what exactly? Can you not read? Several people have posted already that Jadin has not violated any LL TOS because according to the current TOS agreement he only needs to be over 13 to play SL with his parents consent which he has. So feel free to abuse report him but muting him would be the better option if you don’t like him so much.

      • Easy to say all this while hiding behind fake accounts and fake names isn’t it? Great way to build up fake hatred for people and try and support your claims. I hope anyone with half a brain cell can see this smear for what it is. Perhaps SL Secrets should post ip addresses with commentators names as well as with the secrets themselves. Bet half you spineless fools would stop being sixth graders and act your real age.

    • Hey Corbin, go suck your own big fat dick. (I recommend attaching it to your hand first though, I heard it’s easier that way)

      • It obviously pains you that a woman posing as a man makes you feel inferior. No one with a healthy self esteem would make a comment like that. I hope you start feeling better about yourself soon. Just know, you too are worthy of being loved and accepted.

    • That isn’t Corbin commenting. That is someone posing as him. He isn’t stupid enough to subject himself to this kind of anonymous asshattery. I swear, you people hiding behind your facades acting superior, when you know you’re just as flawed as the person next to you. You should be ashamed to behave so hatefully. You may think you’re funny in the moment, but the humanity in you will scold you when your moment in the spotlight fades. You’re the one that will have to live with having said things that are hurtful. You aren’t stupid people…you’re just doing stupid things.

    • Who cares if you chose not to tell people what your birth gender is. You told them the gender you wanted to be identified with here. It is your life and your choice. People who feel entitled to know every intimiate detail about someones personal life and business need to get over themselves. You chose to share that information when you felt ready to do so. If people can’t be understanding and accpeting of that then they honestly aren’t worth your concern in my opinion.

  35. WOW! Just WOW. I had to come and see what all the fuss is about and yet again it’s pathetic drivel from a bunch of people who show a huge lack of intelligence when they rant and rant without even having the ability to grasp their own language. If you can’t even be bothered to grasp your own language then clearly you can’t be bothered to think properly. All you can do is feed off and fuel the drama because it’s so important to you. It fills your day. Such a shame. Please people…gain some intelligence before you cast your stones at people. I can help you with the differences between your and you’re, there, their and they’re if you want. Just say the word 🙂

    When I first joined SL in 2007 I had to prove my age. Back then (those of you the same age or older will remember this) you had to prove your age using a passport, drivers licence, social security number etc. There wasn’t the ability to just lie and press the yes button to say you’re over 18. You think Jadin is so bad for being in SL underage? Personally I don’t think anyone under the age of 30 should be in SL. Because they should be enjoying a life away from it before letting it draw them in and making them feel they have wasted years on it when they should have been out enjoying life RL. But that’s not how it is. Before you all cast your stones….tell me you didn’t take a drink before the legal age? some of you didn’t have sex before the legal age? EVERYONE does something they’re not allowed to do because they’re underage and you’re slating this poor boy because he’s sitting in a virtual world in a family community? He could be anywhere, BDSM sims, free sex places, anywhere….and he gets slated because he joined the family community to try and feel part of something special? WOW! he needs to be put in prison for that huh? maybe put in the middle of a field and stoned?

    With regards to Revy and Peyton – PEOPLE! Grow the hell up. They are adults behind the screen and are NOT related! How many times does it have to be spelled out…there is a DIFFERENCE between ROLE PLAY and RL. This is pathetic.

    And finally, on to Corbin…So he lied. THIS IS A VIRTUAL WORLD WHERE WE CAN BE WHO WE WANT TO BE. People!!!! Did you know all those vampires in bloodlines are really human? Holy crap they’re lying about being vampires. Imagine that! Anyone has EVERY right to be who they want to be, who they feel they are on the inside. NOONE has ANY right to a person’s RL information or RL identity until that person decides to give that information. YES there is a moral issue between him and the person he is with but that is for them to work through and not for all of you to cast your stones.

    I came across a picture on FB yesterday. It said Don’t judge others because they SIN DIFFERENTLY than you! How about you all walk away and find some other drama to fill your day?

    Maryannkingsley – feel free to slate me!

  37. Please Mary we all know you sleep with whatever walks and talks. How about sleeping with your rl husband for a change. Damn lesbo

  39. Cause you’re a fucking saint? who gives a shit who my mom is with as long as she’s happy and doing what makes her happy. How about you? You’re so awesome that you come on here to laugh at peoples mistakes/misfortune/etc? PUH LEASE dipshit get a life

  40. BTW 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 bucks says you know someone who is a “LESBIAN” because you’re to illiterate to actually say the whole word and use ‘lesbo’. Someone who is gay, transgender, etc. who is close to you.. OR SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!!! A female playing a male avi OR a male playing a female avi.. Good job dipshit I feel bad for the SL and RL family that has to deal with your ignorance and your loving of having to bring people down and stir up the drama more. Does it fulfill your life goal to be so sad and pathetic? hi5 if it does you should seek help to better yourself

  42. Hello pot meet the kettle. Your posts aren’t any better. Enhancing the drama on here is all you’ve managed to do.

  44. By the way just so we’re clear the Bravo was to Mary not the anti-gay. Just for clarification.

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