Welcome to Virtual Secrets, Week 642.
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I am going to discuss the elephant in the room. There is drama going around regarding an alleged minor allegedly escorting in Second Life and clubs allegedly aware of the age. I won’t post any secrets regarding this rumor because if it is true then everyone involved, including Linden Lab, allegedly committed a crime (depending on the country/state/local laws). If commenters want to discuss the rumor in comments please be careful on how you word what you have to say. It is likely things said in comments will end up in law enforcement hands.
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#7. This is bullshit really. The owners are super chill of adoption options. VAL especially is a wonderful person. She doesn’t put up with bullying and or AGEPLAY like stated. Clearly the person who made up this RUMOR is someone she’s probably banned for doing some stupid shit. If anyone believes this then you obviously don’t know the kind of person she is.
#15 Hayden, what’s good?
“When a fool utters all kinds of insults against you in a social media group without even knowing you or without any worthwhile reason or provocation usually they are merely sad & pathetic attention seeking trolls who we should all feel sorry for. They don’t deserve our anger. They deserve our pity.”
― R.M. Engelhardt” STRAIGHT OUT of #20s profile but SHE makes these secrets about herself what a pathetic loser and I can not believe she even has her sl kids anymore how embarrassing for the lot of them.
The only two kids she has are the only two who pitty her. They are the odd ones out in that family but they also don’t know the things she’s doing. Once they do they will drop her too like the rest of that family did.
5: Just because you want your mesh head nose to look like the wicked witch of the west. That doesn’t mean everyone else in sl should follow suit. If they wanna look like someone other than their RL selves that’s their prerogative. It’s a virtual simulation, not real life.
25: Moors were heavy into the Islamic faith. So there were not tgirls back then.. it was seen as haram [Forbbiden]. Islam is very homophobic, transphobic. It’s not a secret.
31: I’m surprised some photographers on Flickr aren’t reporting this theft
#7 – If people desire to piss and shit in virtual diapers, let them. Why is this an issue you are bringing up?
That’s just gross and weird!
Do not kink shame. It is very rude. No one is making you do it or watch it.
okay karen
3.) FUSSY OVER A MOVIE IS DUMB. YALL NEED TO BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHY ADULT MEN CHARACTERS ARE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME AT THE ORPHANAGE WITH US CHILD CHARACTERS NOW. THE MAJORITY OF US ARE GIRL CHILD CHARACTERS. ITS SO CREEPY I DON’T FEEL COMFORTABLE ANYMORE. WHY IS NOBODY STOPPING THIS?
16 you sound really upset.. Which anime avatar hurt your feeling? Prolly should just tie up the noose just sayin.
addiction at its finest, …gawd that place is so full of shit, like seriously the owner catty is a horible person just, she has her boys call her momma or mother and is totaly into underage sex services her actual sex toy is like 12 years or such its so gross … also shes farming these poor boys cred cards just like i know for fact that ana`s husband laughs his ass off while he has his peener in her as she does service to that little boys probaly is their boths fetish i dono … but its really digusting and shouldnt be happening … imagine your kid plays second life and some brasilian cam chick takes his pocket money to show her fatt ugly ass ?! … mean also actualy iam one of the less people who seen her real face …her body is ok but really her face looks like a crack whore mongo … shes really disgusting … like typical whore just… and worst is the way she talks about the people who work for her behind their back shes really bad mouthing em alot and just fake smiles in their face … but only as long em are needed for her business… that woman is a ice cold manipulating monster nothing else and a serious gold digger
This isn’t a secret.
3 – If this is about CC lol . Hire movie staff? That’s big wishing. They would never do something different outside of the 6 jobs they have lol
14 31 – If people want to do those weird looking morphs to their personal photos, let them. Creators on the other hand need to STOP MORPHING THEIR PRODUCT PICTURES. That’s false advertising especially if there’s no demo
18 – The 2.5 heads work on all my body systems. Catwa is that you?
30 – Mixer DJs never fail to amuse me when twits like that one claim they are the real DJs. Those of us who’ve played the songs as released have been around for decades. We could’ve been little bitches and told mixers they weren’t allowed to be called DJs. And maybe some of us did, especially back in the early days of scratching. That argument is also decades old and settled to boot. We are all real DJs. Well… most of us. I make an exception for the fakers who put a pool of current hits into a WinAmp playlist, hit random, and go masturbate themselves to sleep in the basement, though.
Also, WTF is a mixer DJ doing claiming what they play is original music? They would not exist without sampling and mixing other people’s stuff. It sounds different when it’s done, but none of them wrote a goddamn note of it. I’m aware there is at least one RL musician/DJ who writes his own samples. But ain’t no way in hell that secret writer is Brian Transeau. BT has 100 more things to do than be a twunt on VS.
As the poster of the corrected secret, you and I can be friends. This entitlement mixer DJs have is hilarious and I had an itch about this that prompted me to throw in.
Once I had one dude DJ at the club like “I mixed all of my stuff and it took me a week for just this song alone!” .. It was a whole set of Skillet… with barely any noticeable changes, maybe like three nice fade ins. The whole time the DJ was like “I have an ear for music!” Haven’t actually seen him anywhere since.
It literally costs 0L to mind your own and do what makes you happy but the OP apparently needed some attention
1. As a person that has a degree in criminal justice and actually knows the law, I am going to have to point out that Linden Labs wouldn’t be at fault due to they can’t control who does/doesn’t make an SL account. They ask for a birthdate when you make your account so that is how they cover their ass.Maybe research before you open your mouth? Also, we all know that you are from one of the clubs that hired that “under age” avatar and you are paranoid as hell right now that you are going to get in trouble for it. 2. Did they call you ugly or something ? Why so salty ? lol 3. Or maybe instead of bitching about what is going on in SL on Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays, you could get off your lame ass, get off of the computer and go out in real life you lazy fuck. 🙂 4. It’s SL … who cares. It isn’t RL fucking. Sit down and stfu. 5. Why would you want a hook nose anyways ? it looks like a storybook witch nose. That’s why it’s “never” like that. 6. Not my circus, not my monkeys. 7. So, you were there playing gestures and got banned ? That is why you are making a post about them ? ok then. 8. Then don’t buy it ? No one is forcing you to buy it. Shut up already. 9. Their shit is poorly made… especially the texturing. 10. huh ? 11. As a blogger you should be able to do those photos at the drop of a hat. If you don’t have enough “friends” to help you then you go look for random avatars and start asking everyone. Don’t be mad because a virtual store is dropping… Read more »
Second life losers pretending to be lawyers. Really cringe.
#5: They want an aquiline nose because those are also beautiful. This conformity to European beauty standards you champion is a load of bullshit. It took years for Black people to be able to look reasonably accurate here. Now you’re spouting crap about how nobody wants to look Roman or eastern European. Damn, you need to learn your shit stinks. PS: “Hook nose” is borderline anti-Semitic language. Stereotypical witches have them because of anti-Jewish stereotypes, also. Not saying you’re being a bigot here, but you really need to get in better touch with reality.
#13: No she was banned for being a rude, aggressive asshat. Her wanting free stuff and being cheap/poor doesn’t excuse her bad behaviour and the creator doesn’t have to condone it. They were absolutely in the right to not reward or allow that kind of entitled bullshit to be thrown at them. I’m worried about how you conduct yourself since this basic concept went over your head.
If #4 can get a “its sl, it isn’t rl fucking. Sit down” then every one can stfu about this underage bitch CaUsE iTs jUsT SL.
Gunner a clown & so are his simps
You actually talk to #20? What are you thinking boo? RUN!’
Number one was written by Kesseret you dimwit. Nobody hire this one with the law degree. They will lose your case LOL.
@Panama Jack: Right on. LOL.
@NVM: Panama is correct. I wrote #1. How can anyone tell? It’s text which is different from the images. I received several uploads regarding that issue and decided to make that statement. Also, Linden Lab (no S) would be liable for hosting child pornography on their server. Images of an underage person == child pornography. Uploading into SL == hosting child pornography.
In fact, where I live, if an underage child sends out explicit photos to another child both children get charged. One holding/possessing child pornography and one for distribution.
But, what do I know? I don’t have a law degree (and I don’t care to possess one either).
#17. Nice try, Pooky. Stop taking those pain pills and try being less crazy.
Hahaha, I don’t take pain pills and I love my crazy, It’s better than being a jealous mean person…grins
#15 Dumbest post I ever seen here. Just because they use cute animal pictures doesn’t mean they have a dog fetish.
#17 Why is that place called Kindness?
#20 Heard about this person a few good times being on here through the years. Seems like they might need some help.
#27 Side views are important.
#34 What? What’s the purpose of this post?
#35 I think she’s on my Facebook, I’m curious too because I’ve seen a few in short time.
Things I would have said but you said them for me.
There is no help for #20 that bitch too psycho!!
#15 Um it’s not about having a dog fetish, that’s not it at all. They are posting about Shiba Inus (not doge please I hate people calling Shibas doge), I was a Shiba Inu owner and they are a loving and passionate breed. He’s comparing his love for the way Shibas love, not a fetish at all, like I love my boyfriend the way the two Shibas snuggling together love each other. Doesn’t mean we have a dog fetish just means that we are loving like an animal. What if it was two otters, or two cats, or two elephants they were comparing their love to would you say they have a fetish for those animals?
Also #34 we can’t see what you’re trying to say ‘WHAT’ to…
People are stupid. There’s nothing wrong with using those images.
#8 – Wow, really? Still going at this. At this point, putting ONE creator on blast for this, and not ALL creators (because SO many stores do this as well), is indicative of a personal vendetta. This person clearly has something against Backbone specifically and they’re making a huge issue out of something that has been a non-issue for years. It literally states on the SIGN that in the PG version, most poses can be used for mm & ff couples. I’m pansexual. I’ve had male characters, female characters, fembois, tgirls, all kinds of characters under the rainbow. You know what? I use mf poses. And? On *LITERALLY EVERY POSE* I have to make adjustments. As mf, ff, Tgirl, and femboi, you name it. Always have to adjust. This person also fails to point out that there are a lot of other options, BEYOND THE SPECIFICALLY GAY ONES that are added to the adult+ stuff. So, are the poly people going to be pissed at one creator now? This is really getting out of hand. Either buy it, or don’t. Put all the creators on blast, or none. Otherwise, it’s just a personal vendetta and it looks ridiculous.
Also, you look more like an asshole, because backbone has always supported us gay people! They put out gifts for us during pride month. Sheesh, some people making us all look bad. :c
Actually it’s not a personal vendetta, I’ve never even spoken to the creators(only a manager that told me to submit a suggestion in the suggestion box, which is basically telling someone to throw it in the garbage), and while I did make the post last week, this week’s post wasn’t me.
Also, I’m not impressed by free rainbow swag. Plenty of RL companies sell and give out rainbow crap during Pride Month and then quietly donate to anti-lgbt politicians or organizations. Color me jaded, but throwing us a rainbow-painted bone doesn’t mean anything.
If you have a list of other creators that shove *all* of their LGBT animations into the highest priced version of their furniture, I would gladly take it and put them on blast too.
Cheers
How about blasting Akaesha for not having any MM and restricting their FF to a single couch for over ten years? Or how their MFF is only in a hot tub or the bar? And how you have to own two different Kama Sutra rugs to get the FF anims version? Do your own goddamn research past this point, though. You’re appropriating the concept of “queer tax” from people who actually suffer in RL over pricing discrepancies besides.
Backbone might be shitty about how they sell adult vs adult+ (yeah sorry this is an actual stupid practice not a vendetta that ONE person has against a creator) but at least their mesh is nice unlike Akaesha. But like the person above you said, if you have other creators doing the same thing, pretty sure people also have an issue with it. Backbone is just one that’s kidn of egregious because of the discrepancy with pricing between adult and adult+
Also people can have an issue with something minor in a game and also understand that it’s not the end of the world same level as ‘queer tax’ issues irl. I deal with this shit irl and it’s just another little aggravation to see it when buying ingame items. Doesn’t mean I should roll over and say ‘I’m glad I get a crumb here time to suck the creator’s dick for giving me something if I give them way more money’.
I, too, am queer in both lives, and I still find it irritating that I’m paying more for animations which fit my desires than straight people have to. At least IRL we don’t have to pay money to physically cuddle someone. We shouldn’t be paying more in any life.
#8 WHEN ARE YOU DUMBASSES GONNA REALIZE THAT AS QUEER PEOPLE WE DONT WANNA PAY OVER 4000 L FOR POSES THAT WERE NOT GOING TO USE.
TAKE THE SCRIPTS THAT YOU AS THE MAKER MADE…REZ THE BED WITHOUT POSES….DROP THE QUEER POSES IN THERE… AND BOOM YOU GOT A QUEER BED THAT YOU CAN SELL FOR 12OOL UP TO 2000L THAT’S A FAIR DEAL. I ANT PAYING 4000L FOR OVER HALF THE POSES I ANT USING. IF YOUR QUEER YOU PAY MORE. It’s NOT RIGHT.
THRE DID I DUMB IT DOWN FOR YOU DUMBASSES.
It must suck to want.
You should get a queer creator to make a queer store that only creates queer related items. Then they can make items with straight poses and charge more. I’m sure there will be a lot of outraged straight people raving about how they have to pay more for straight poses from a store that primarily caters to queer people. The amount of support they receive for their outrage will be about the same as you’re receiving…. little.
not because people are homophobic or sexist or whatever term you want to use, it’s because people are apathetic. Nobody cares. If you don’t like what someone is about, don’t buy from them. If they don’t sell things “for you” then you don’t buy. I don’t walk into a men’s store and demand they fit me a dress. They could, sure, and if they did they would charge me more… because it’s not what they do.
Support queer creators that are creating queer things for your community. This is the best course of action; lift them up with your L so they might make more for you, versus screaming at the sky demanding specific creators make what you want.
You got a list of creators we should be supporting who are at the quality level of Backbone? If so, I’d love to see it.
Then don’t?
That does sound like a good idea.
How does #35 have time to cater to all these different relationships if she is apparently severely ill in the real?
If these individuals jump in relationships quickly, they don’t know how to be alone and love themself. That can be really damaging to anyone who falls for them because to them it’s different and it’s easy for them to move on faster then who they were with. Caution tape needs to be on some individuals so their partner knows and is careful.
I agree with that. My ex boyfriend did that to me. It’s really hurtful. From what I’ve read she’s married so it’s like the same situation almost. I told myself I would never date another married person for these reasons. We really are just someone for them to latch onto to use from what they don’t get from their real relationship.
She could be dying and she will still cater to 5 diff ppl at once. Give it a week to 2 she’ll be in 1
If this girl in the image tagging her knew better she wouldn’t want to date Kamaria to begin with unless she wants to keep ending up here along with her like the olden days……she’s always leaving for reasons this girl obviously don’t know…..exit before it starts chica esp. if ur sick….she won’t be taking care of u anytime soon
Facts facts facts holy shit facts! ? That will be a waste of your time
We call that desperate here in Cali. Everyone knows she’s in very deep love with Z so anyone willing to try is only setting themselves up to be used.
Like you were? Salt is pouring out of your comments!! Here you are still crying Jas!! Keep putting her up here and talking shit about her becos it’s going to come back on you so much worse.
Hahaha no. Be with her and that’s what you get when someone is emotionless. You will always see her with someone else when it doesn’t work the way she wants it to. There’s no emotions inside her heart for who she dates. It’s all an act! She still has a husband irl & that’s a big red flag because she can leave 1 person & move to another because that’s only what she is isl for. She will never care who she hurts. If she has someone else she can fall onto & be there when she whines about her life, she’s golden!
#Dontcare #Nosalthere #Liveinyourvoid
Really sounds like no salt, yup! You truly are a very sad and pathetic girl Jasper. Please get help.
Define severely ill. What kind of illness are we talking? Covid? Cancer? Maybe it’s not real? I know if I was severely ill and it was serious I wouldn’t go in a relationship I couldn’t commit my full attention to. I wouldn’t want my newly partner to feel they need to cater to me because I’m sick. That’s just wrong.
I think it’s real . I would have to agree with you that it’s wrong to cater to relationships during illness . Any would feel they have to tread lightly around them and treat them differently . That’s not a real relationship then if your tiptoeing .
Brain tumor or brain cancer is what the word is but how many people in sl say these things for sad sympathy to cover their vile actions or to have a pity party I don’t see how anyone could be attracted to these DOGS jas,Z, or hadley they all look like poor meth heads in real maybe that’s why they are a love triangle
I’ve never met anyone to lie about those. That would be so wrong to lie about. If you tell friends your ill and your really not anyone should be ashamed of themselves for that. I hope that’s not the truth for her friends sake.
You’re fairly lucky. I’ve known about a well known creator that died. People in SL lost their minds, went through the entire grief cycle, then awhile later it came out they hadn’t died and it was all a big farce. I can only imagine the amount of hurt and betrayal felt by those poor people.
Then there’s the famous case of the owner of Olive lying about needing money for her mother’s funeral. There was a fundraiser and everything. She took the money and bought a tablet and some useless shit even after being exposed on here.
Never ever doubt that people can and would lie about the worst things. It’s a sad, horrible truth. Take everything with a grain of salt.
I like talking on voice and I do have a lisp, due to me busting my upper jaw & teeth in car accident in my 20’s, it didn’t set quite right. Rather than using it for sympathy, sometimes I just ham it up to make people laugh!
All praise our TV God : Kripe
https://youtu.be/CdE0043WyfE
This makes me glad I keep my circle small. I’m sorry to those who came across them. I hope to never.
90% of people in sl who say they have some kind of illnesses actually don’t, don’t get my wrong some absolutely do but most of the time people say these things for attention, or sympathy especially if they’re known for being a piece of shit. One girl on here swears she has a pacemaker lol when she 100% does not!
I’m glad I have never came across them then. I would not want someone in my life who could lie about serious things. Cancer is a huge thing and hits home. I’ve lost a lot to that devil sickness. Shame on anyone who will lie about it for sympathy along with any illness.
I don’t sense she is faking.
I can vouch Jas talks badly about people.
I’m not an outsider reading in but I also don’t want too involved. You must know he does talk a lot to where I knew of this before your (Hadley’s) post though. That brings me here after seeing it. I know what happened with your child and other events in your life too.
Jas has always been a nasty talker when things don’t go his way. He will also do things to make it look like another did it to make you hate a person more even if he’s involved in it too. This can be an example if you have been up here other times even with him he more so did it to make it look like another for others to send their hate in a different direction so you wouldn’t have them around because he’s a very jealous person. There is a lot you don’t want to learn about him if you haven’t yet. For anyone I would not recommend trusting anything with him or sharing your personal information.
Every time she’s up here I have said this……others have said it the first time she was up. Do not share personal info with her! She will use it against you and talk horribly about you. That girl at the time had proof she was talking to me at the time they were together but ignored it. People Jas has hurt and used came forward. Not everything on this site is a lie and those things were the truth. I tried to help and so did others. Now she is learning just what Jas is really about. It’s best to block and your family to block so she can’t see anything your involved in any longer or she will never stop doing this.
#3 Y’all know exactly who runs the movies and if you actually spoke to me you know I would listen. Ya’ll want different events, you know my name and how to reach me. I am very approachable and would love more ideas from people. My inbox never has any new event ideas so I don’t know who you are telling this to. But making stupid little graphics on a gossip site won’t make things better. jadamen resident will happily take your ims and suggestions.
Don’t let the negativity bring you down people like to be poor sports than helpful. I have some past experience in running sims over the grid and hosting events. More people are on the grid on the weekends. Popular events were cookouts and bbq, street parties and festivals with musicians, morning/evening coffee hour but my most popular event and might sound crazy but hear me out ADULTS PJ NIGHT……my group rented out a house and we had a night full of music, party, talking, games and……what happens at the PJ party stays at the PJ party……if you catch my drift. now these are just some suggestions feel free to use them but also send out a questionnaire or survey to see what your people want from you
Oh you didn’t know? They do send out surveys and Jade’s response here just proves the managers don’t look at them or share any suggestions. FUNNY
we as a team were told the results of the surveys but a lot of things were just things like our decor wasn’t good or we dont greet people enough. which believe me, the greeting thing is on me, I’m more a thinker and designer than people greeter but I am working on it.
But they didn’t share any suggestions for events? Whomp whomp
Thank you for your input. My main goal has been to give people RP oppurtunities because that was what I was gaining that people wanted. Honestly the movie nights were set at the same time each week to give people something to bring dates to or know for a fact their family could count on for a get together.
I mean #20 its not my fault I cant read \0/ but the comment still stands damn it
#19 Lord can ya’ll either fuck the man or let that shit go? I don’t even know this guy and I don’t need to. If every week you constantly put a person on here what does that say about you and what is taking up space, rent free in your mind? If you attack people’s RL based off of knowing them in SL, and that goes for the comments too. I have been here a long ass time and I know that no one gives a shit about what I have to say but here it is. Get the fuck over that pixel dick. Stop trying to warn people about the guy because frankly it says more about your toxicity than anything he has supposedly done to people. If you run here every week to put the guy on blast, you look like the crazy one.
And THIS is where you’re WRONG this person is a loser in rl and sl! Can’t keep a job, a car, a friend, a roommate, a pet, a secret, a girlfriend NOTHING this person is so irrelevant that they’re posting these secrets themself to get ATTENTION to TRY to be someone in SECONDLIFE how fucking pathetic on its own to attempt to be someone in a virtual world because you’re not shit in real life. It’s hard to feel sad or pitty for someone who is almost 40 and doesn’t know how be a decent human.
You’re so right about no one gives a shit about what you say. It’s very clear you missed that the hag puts these up herself for attention for people to feel sorry for her. No one actually gives a shit about her that much but when she comes across you one day, stalks you and your real life like she’s done others then maybe you’ll keep your dumb comments to yourself.
This sounds like what Zaidon has done in the past to many girls. #20 is definitely NOT Zaidon, but, I have a feeling it IS who’s commenting all these nasty things or its Mori….who is also every insecure about herself. Do yourself and everyone else here, shut up. Just shut the hell up. No one really cares.
Lmboooo I’m neither one of them. Think a weeeeebit harder and you can figure out who I am becos I know that’s you Jasper. The only trash that gets a dick in their hairy 40 yr old ass on here bringing up someone you have also stalked which is Zai!! You don’t have 1 person to defend you so everyone knows it’s you every time you try. It’s actually so sad and pathetic at this point!! You stalked both of them for years, many have seen the the logs by now from your multiple accounts you own cause your a creep and always been a creep. What’s wrong crybaby Jasper, you sad that another person you have stalked for years is fucking what you were a rebound for? How does it feel to know you were nothing becos you’re a fucking creep and no one actually ever wants to be with you?
The other commenter may be zaidon or mori but I’m not either of them I am pretty close with Z and Hadley (which let me tell you she is still in love with Z and has been the whole time, sorry Jasper baby) I do know that you have stalked z , hadley, and mori though and I know z stalked mori too and Hadley stalked z you lot are very strange but Jasper I’ve known you for a long long time on another account of my from the club back in the day so think harder and try to remember where you used to spend a lot of time looking for victims.
He won’t answer you becos he’s too busy trying to play hero and making it look like he’s not the one putting a girl who wants nothing to do with him up while he puts himself so no one points the finger at him. He plans things and he’ll do anything to make it look like someone else. Little does he know everyone is on to him and know the real him now. Time to give up the act and leave people alone.
Let’s not forget z also stalked Mercedes and Lexi maybe Jasper and z should be together
25 – finally someone fucking said it.
yea #25 is just blatant disrespect dragging other cultures into his own agenda. but extreme common amongst raceplayer’s pretending to be black or asian in sl for fetish with no respect for people.
#8 the hell? Nah. okay. don’t be dumb. this isn’t some tax on gay people. I don’t see anyone complaining about the fact we have to pay extra just for adult poses. where’s the “why do sexually active people have to pay extra to have sex?!” posts? that’s right. no one complains because they understand that there are MORE animations.
Let us look at the BackBone Dreamer’s Bed:PG- 16 Single, 40 couple
Adult– 16 Single, 40 couple, 54 foreplay, 48 sex
Adult+ (or the “queer tax bed”)– 16 Single, 40 couple, 54 foreplay, 48 sex , 8FF cuddles, 10FF sex, 8MM cuddle, 9FFM cuddle, 15 FFM sex, 5MMF cuddle, 9MMF sex
Do we see WHY it costs more now?
from 56 animations in PG to over 200 in Adult+
since we are complaining about higher costs for and item that has more stuff in it than the lower priced item, lets also complain about fatpacks! DOWN WITH FATPACKS. Why should they cost more than the single color? its still the same item in all the packs. only it has 20 more colors! clearly that shouldn’t matter!
*please note, I’m being sarcastic about the fatpacks. Higher price for more content. makes sense to me!
PS. I’m also part of the LGBTQ+ crew. don’t try to say “you don’t understand because you are not gay” because honey, I like my tacos just as much as I like my hotdogs.
You’re missing the point of the secret, numbnuts. It’s asking for SEPARATE lower priced packs with the queer animations so there are options to get those without paying for the M/F animations. NOT a lower priced fatpack. Can you even fucking read?
Can YOU read, “numbnuts”? yeah, the post is asking for items with just queer animations. cool. but claiming paying MORE for an item with literally EVERY FUCKING THING IN IT is some dumb ass queer tax? nah. call it a queer tax when the item costs more when its just queer animations and has the same amount or less animations as the other beds. Sad when you try to insult someone without reading shit yourself. the whole queer tax claim is because you have to pay more for queer animations. that is MY point. but thank you. back under the bridge you go!
There is such thing as a “queer tax” but it’s not exactly what you think and tbh I think most queer people wouldn’t want this tax to go away at all
because Straight people pay it as much as you do. Every time a government funds a transition clinic, an LGBT event, special programs within our education system, prison system, just about every single system… all of these things are paid for with tax dollars that are primarily paid by straight people considering they make up the vast majority of the population. When you have over 80% of the population funding things that only benefits the >20% that may be queer, it’s a queer tax for straight people.
you can argue that everyone including gay people pay taxes for everything, and I agree, except what services are straight people receiving that only straights benefit from? Even the benefits of marriage and children are extended to queer couples…
You’re not made to pay for straight programs, straight clinics, straight parades, straight education for children and straight awareness month ads funded by tax payer government.
so. Be careful if you want to end that queer tax, it goes beyond just stupid SL furniture
Im aware of all of that. i am just talking about there is no “queer tax” in this particular thing. complaining about paying more for an item that has more than double the animations and pretty much demanding creators take out everything they dont want for them and throwing shade when they dont.
Yasssssss Queeeeen
so have PG, Adult, Adult+ LGBTQ+, M/M, F/F, M/M/M , F/F/F ? like that?… wow, im glad you’re teh one that will be scipting them all and making them all separate.
that sure is some hard scripting damn
popping different animations into the same scripted object wow I can’t imagine doing that
You do realize there’s a notecard that controls those scripts, right? And every different version has to have a separate avPos notecard made up with every name and animation, at least twice, along with positioning information to create those menus you use. It’s not just “popping different animations into the same scripted object”.
Maybe if it’s so easy, you should make your own furniture! Backbone’s animations aren’t made by them; you can inspect Backbone stuff, find those animation creators to buy them full perm, and put them together how you like. Problem solved.
Honestly at this point, if I were Backbone, I’d only sell the adult+ version anymore and eliminate the other cheaper ones. That way all this false virtue signaling doesn’t get fed into. It punishes the people who want to pay cheaper, but now it’s “fair” for everyone.
And before anyone tries it, I’m also a member of the LGBTQ+ crowd.
Ah excuse me ‘pop in the copy pasted names and positions of poses on a notecard’. That part is you know pretty fucking easy. I never said making me the mesh was.
Ooooo, a notecard, wow, so complicated! I can’t imagine having to do that for one more product, I’d just die!
You’re just digging the hole deeper, numbnuts.
#26 Is 100% accurate. But you wasted your time. He’s going to read it and only feel like it makes him famous, sadly.
He sounds like a wanker from Wales. Look at the “girls” he is with. Look all under age. I hear he’s into that scene.
B, you made it! Bahaha! People are so concerned with you they made this post about you. Don’t ever change! I love you! #Goals #BotheredMuch?
SL famous = worthless IRL , or the most popular person in the nuthouse.
why is everyone so silent about his shit? I say we just exile him.
how cute, talking to yourself
next time spell check your post… *you’re
three things about this post are hilarious:
Not only is #31 a blatant theft of a full RL boot but it’s also one of the worst morphs ever. I don’t know who you think you’re fooling, but stop. Lol
#5 why should anybody make a shape like that if they don’t like it? What’s wrong with looking beauty? It`s not a matter of being brainwashed, its a matter of taste, maybe not your taste but nothing wrong with it.
They mean you can’t make your own nose look like that should they want to do so. And that nose shape is just as beautiful as any other. So you are clearly brainwashed into thinking only one type of face is beautiful. Work on that.
7 or 8..whatever @queer poses.
still not over it? I witness your tantrum like a drama queen in the group chat. Seriously you really demand that a designer makes special furniture for you because you don’t want to buy what’s there or better you cant afford it? there is a simple solution: don’t buy it! Buy where you can get just queer furniture and move on.
Actually I’m the person that made the post last week. *waves* This week wasn’t me. I can’t take the credit. It seems like I’m not the only one taking notice of BackBone’s bull-fuckery. So yeah, I understand why you assumed it was me again this week, but it’s not.
Also yeah! Wasn’t that temper tantrum of mine wild? Remember when I started calling everyone names and then belittled every response back to me? Oh wait, that didn’t happen. I do believe I stated my problem, called bullshit on the response from staff, and then stated my intentions to share this with the community. Which seems to be working. Have a great day.
I know the person who posted it last week and I know for a fact he didn’t make the post. I’m pretty good friends with him and he would have told us about him making a post ahead of time. So stop making assumptions and learn how to get your facts!
non of my business you just mad that more people are seeing it try looking past your own nose and witness that queers are being victimized you probably on of the white privileged idiots who say all lives matter what a noob
Queers are being victimized for some kind of stupid added cost in SL?? Mother fucker try being a woman in RL who pays a fucking tax every single time she bleeds each month. And women do that shit for decades! Let’s see you try to wrap some stupid “white privileged” shit around that fact.
Guess what? Queer women exist IRL too. Some of us are even queer in SL, so we get to pay all the taxes – bleeding, furniture, the works. You’re not better than anyone, sweetie.
Wow thanks for explaining that. If it was not for you, I would have assumed that queer only affected males. *rolls eyes* The sofa is completely imaginary, does not exist in RL at all, but some asshole wants to try to cry injustice cause it’s biased towards them in SL? Anyone who cries about injustice in SL need to step the fuck away from the computer. And actually I am better that some, I realize what is important and what is not. SL is not a replacement for an actual life.
*rolls eyes* have no argument anymore so you try to insult me? Grow up…
yes so sorry, totally a victim because he/she cant have his furniture from Backbone
I have to say, your responses Non are very well written and articulate. I’m almost crushing big time!! Wait, what did you write about. Seriously, great posts 🙂
Not sure what ‘tantrum’ you’re talking about. I’m the creator of that secret and made it to clarify for the people who didn’t understand the secret last week, and because I agree that forcing queer people to buy the highest priced version of an item is stupid. Yeah, there are some other creators who do queer furniture but I do like Backbone’s aesthetic and quality. Splitting out an LGBTQ+ PG or Adult edition isn’t a big deal and is more likely to earn additional sales, not lose money. If the poses are already there and ready to go, what’s the excuse besides money grabbing?
I’ve seen this over on FB and you were called an idiot there, as well. Let me make it as simple as your little brain can handle. The more animations put into a product, the higher the cost will be. It really is that simple. If you compare the pieces, you can see that the LGBTQ+ piece is really loaded with the most animations, hence the reason why it will cost more. It is not, as you claim, about the animations already being there but more about the AMOUNT of animations that are in it. As others have said, get over it, move along and find another store to buy from, if you don’t like it.
WE DONT WANT ALL THE OTHER POSES YOU MORAN WE WAT JUST A QUEER VERSION FOR A FAIR PRICE. FUCKING DUMBASS
Let me guess you came into SL from IMVU right?
No one needed your damn clarification. We are all quite aware you’re just throwing a tantrum and calling it a “queer tax”. If it’s not such a big deal, why don’t you just go create the products your self? There are a lot of places you can get same sex, and even multiple participant furniture, it’s really not as limited as you seem to think. Backbone isn’t the be all end all, only store that sells same sex or multiple participants furniture. Stop being such an entitled ass and shop somewhere that better caters to your needs the way the rest of us do. Stop trying to act like we’re (those of us in the LGBTQ+ crowd) all on your side here. Most of us don’t give a shit, we shop other places that sell the things we want, or we deal with having poses we don’t want, the same way anyone else does when they get furniture that has poses they don’t want. You’re being overly dramatic over something so completely idiotic. Every single response you make just makes you sound even worse. Everyone got this whole “point” last week, and every single time it’s been brought up in group chats too. Our point is, we don’t give a shit about your crybaby entitlement, shop somewhere else, or deal, like the rest of us do. Maybe for this particular creator it actually isn’t a good business decision to separate out the different pieces the way you want. Have you ever considered that maybe it was tried, didn’t do well, and the creator reverted? Other furniture creators have done exactly that when the audience just wasn’t there to justify the time spent making the product, buying the resources necessary, scripting, or whatever other processes are necessary. Maybe it really is… Read more »
And after that little novella of yours, the black and white fact still remains that BackBone charges their LGBT customers more than their Hetero customers for every item in their store. If that doesn’t bother you, then here’s a little bit of your advice given back to you in a condensed way; Move on. If these posts upset you, then why don’t you just go look at other posts? Isn’t that basically what you’re saying to all of us about shopping at BackBone?
Have a great day dude/dudette!
But wait! We have to pay more if we want adult poses. You realize that just about every store that offers PG and Adult versions charges more for the adult version? We get ‘sex taxed’! OMG! Let’s all riot now! I’ll call people names and scream in all caps so that my argument is more valid.
So, as someone that falls into the B column of LGBTQ+, I’m going to point out that paying for the extras you ‘don’t want’ is actually applicable to me. I will use the M/F, FF, MMF, MFF, etc poses happily after I pay appropriately for an item that offers me everything afforded to everyone else!
But let me guess, you fall into the L or G column and just need something to bitch about? Or maybe, you are just too blinded to see the forest for the trees? For years we fought to even be included in the same things as heterosexual individuals. Civil unions, marriages, adoptions, marital benefits, the list goes on. Someone actually includes the LGBTQ+ community in even footing with the heterosexual community on something, and you still have to bitch that it isn’t EXACTLY what YOU want. I got a news flash for you, you’re not the only letter in an acronym that matters.
Thank you, BackBone, for not tossing a distinct ‘queer furniture option’ out there. I am just fine with my furniture options being included with everyone elses, instead of having to be ‘special’ and ‘different’, I have wanted to be seen on the same ‘level’ as the heterosexual community for years, without bias, without being separated into an obligatory afterthought.
Don’t raise your voice. Change your argument.
@cash if you were queer youd understand stop commenting on gay stuff you know nothing about
If I am, as I already stated, does my opinion magically become as valid as yours does? I do know a lot about it. I also wouldn’t go around calling this discrimination when REAL discrimination actually exists in the world.
You do know it’s possible to be queer and not a drama queen, right?
Seriously? It IS money-making, its BUSINESS. If I want THAT special Color of a pants/dress/shirt and its only available in the fatpack, I can’t go to the creator and say “But I don’t want all the 30 other colours, I just want the one, give it to me you money-grabbing as***”
the tantrum the person threw the other day in the group chat about this topic and threaten the Backbone team to make a “Virtual secret” out of it
It wasn’t a threat. Also “tantrum” LMAO
I saw this in chat and rolled my eyes too. I mean just buy the cheap adult one and fix the pose if its that big of a deal. More poses will always equal more money. No matter if its for gay or straight. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Also if i remember right this item in question, the adult+ came with a special collector item. I never use adult poses and still bought it. They ever hear of the pink tax? Thats a real world problem that no one is bitching about. I like pink, i pay more. ~Shrugs~ never saw it as a big deal.
You guys are missing the point entirely! did you only ready half of what Post 8 says? There is no option to just buy an M/M version. We are not wanting a fatpack of all the animations just a M/M or F/F version of the M/F adult. It’s really all that simple. It would cost the same price instead of bundling it into one piece of furniture! That is why it FEELS like a Queer tax.
I prefer oral and doggie, does that mean that I can ask for a cheaper version of the same bed with only those animations in it???? Stop whining about what you think your cheap ass is entitled too and understand that some ‘queer’ people are also bisexual and enjoy having all of the animations. Nobody has to cater to what you demand, its not the way the world works sweetheart. Maybe make your own then you don’t have to worry about saving a few rl cents because thats what this adds up to you know.
The weird thing is that, instead of arguing, creators could just be banging the gay poses only into beds and making a sweet profit easily. As some retailers do – n4rs bring the one that leaps to mind. Wouldn’t that be more productive (read: profitable) than arguing? Especially when the assertion last week and this are totally correct.
#20 actually makes me sick, they are always posting about themself because they are such an old ugly loser in real life and so irrelevant in RL that the have to ATTEMPT to make themself revenant in sl, number #35 is 20s ex and is a tragedy in real as well.
I said in my comment that #20 200% posted that about herself because your right, she’s very irrelevant …she posted that about her ex just so it didn’t look like she did it… not the first time either. She’ll always try to make something look like someone else… she has major problems.
The most irrelevant person I wish I never met. Need some puke emoji’s to top it off on how everyone feels about her.
Don’t we all feel that way, that’s how I feel about most people in SL anyway, majority of people in sl will throw anyone under the bus for just a little attention, people fuck their kids in sl, people lose friends in sl over relationships, people fuck their friends partners etc etc, it’s just one big boiling hot ass mess which is why I left a long long time ago.
jasper is a mental case. she chases women in-game. always ready to partner in a week and tell everyone how much in love she is in .then wanna rush real life when she can’t even effort own bills .. jasper we all know you put yourself on here. stop trying to be relevant
Did it hurt? When you fell out of someones ass into the toilet, you piece of shit.
Lmaboooo I think we hurt Jasper’s feelings guys. Cackling at how sad and pathetic you are Jasper. Read the comments creep!! No one likes you and never will!! Time to make alt number 10 to hide and pretend it’s not you.
Um okay. I’m not Jasper though, which makes it all the more hilarious when you go bonkers off the wall, spewing hate. I’m just simply trying to stick up for someone who I’ve known since high school (real life). We have even dated for 5 years before I moved away for college. You have no idea what you are saying or getting into. Jasper has done nothing to do me and has always stuck up for me, been there for me when I’ve needed it the most. So I don’t understand why you are all hating on someone you clearly don’t even know in real life…you only see and know her from sl? Tearing someone down just because you are unhappy with your own life and I guess somehow it makes you feel better about yourself, is just plain sad and very high school. We aren’t in high school anymore, but I don’t know maybe you are by the looks of your post? I am having a hard time deciphering your post. Maybe you could get all mad again and post another one to help me?
Lmboooo at real life friend lmboooo ok Jasper. I guess by the time I saw you log on and the time frame of when this comment was made isn’t just a coincidence. Mhmmmmm and yes I’m on your list!! That’s how dumb you are but please do keep trying becos the more you try the more stupid we all think you are. Give us all more to laugh about!
That is Jasper trying to pretend like she has a real life friend which we all know is a JOKE she can’t keep friends because she is a weird lying creep who doesn’t know how to mind her own business, Jasper go fuck your dad or something or make him some food since you’re living there rent free you pathetic dipshit
I know that’s her. I know she doesn’t have any friends from real life who are going to come on a website meant for second life to defend her. She doesn’t even have a second life friend who would do that! Golf clap for trying Jasper really!! A bunch of us have been having good laughs in Discord at how dumb you really are. Btw I’m pretty happy in life becos I’m not a sad pathetic loser living with my daddy at almost 40 years old. You should just quit while you’re ahead. You’re just not liked and that’s what you brought on yourself.
Imagine being so desperate to shame a creator into doing what you want that you act like they’re not doing something 90+% of furniture stores in SL do; the only places you’re going to find FF/MM animations in a PG version is somewhere that specializes in same sex animated furniture. Every other major creator either does separate, adult animated versions for FF/MM or just doesn’t bother to offer gay animations at all. The market for PG only gay animations is marginal, so creating a whole separate menu system for it isn’t really worth the effort, from a purely “return on time invested” standpoint. Claiming that not supporting a tiny minority is discrimination instead of just logical business conduct is disingenuous bullshit, no matter how many times it gets repeated. Also, it’s not just that messy bitch in 27, but most people in SL who need to do a slow 360 on their heads so they can see how fucked up they look in profile view. Smashed flat faces, ridiculous chin angles, lips that stick out further than their noses… so much inhumanly ugly shit. Just because you look ok from straight on doesn’t mean your shape isn’t a disaster from every other angle. Just Google for profile views of real human beings and note the proportions. Of course, everyone is different, but some things are universal outside of literal disfigurements. Yes, morph photos are categorically creepy and do not look good, yes it’s not cool to steal other people’s work to paste your fugly expressionless SL head on; no one with any brains is arguing otherwise. The weirdos who like it are gonna keep doing it anyway. Unfollow their Flickrs and stop giving them views. Send the stolen shit to the original artists and let them fight about it if… Read more »
#17. That’s one way to promote your shitty sim Pooky! Since when SL secrets became a place for free advertising?
And side note… Who the hell names a BDSM sim “Kindness”?
#20 being the crybaby ex of #35 posting about himself to make it look like he didn’t post that for her to take heat LUL u really are trying that one mate?
She really did try but no one is as dumb as her. Anyone that knows her knows she did it.
She LOVES to think she’s dating a bad bitch too when all of her real exs look like sloppy white trash.
I bet they still look better than she ever will ? her face has to be sagging by now ?
Old bald head ugly ass
#1 the girl posted a confession on her profile to being underage (she’s 17). As far as I know, no one knew. I worked with her and had no idea.
Not sure about all the circumstances and not condoning this behaviour but things don’t really add up like: 1. How do you know that her account wasn’t hacked and this “confession” put in her profile. 2. If she was such a great escort she would have been taking out $L from her account – which requires photo ID and a utility bill or the like. Therefore, if she were underage and faked her ID then this isn’t just about underage but fraud too. I hope they sort out this mess.
She wasn’t cashing her lindens out, somebody was literally prostituting her and blackmailing her for the money. I’d honestly suggest you all stop talking about this poor girl, and let her get help like you’ve all convinced her to do. Last I heard she’s already reported it to the police.
Must be all true if coming from the truth teller. The stories just keep getting more elaborate. Hopefully that will help her in her case.
There’s also a girl who is 15. Admitted as much and had her account banned but was back in a week working at the same strip club. As far as II know, she’s still in SL on the new account.
You need to report this.
My eye is twitching at the age :/
Who are we talking about here?
I’m not gonna name her publicly, especially given her age.
Thank you.
Then what was the point in coming on here and talking in indirect circles? If there is a child in the adult scene of SL, name the account so people can be properly informed and not hire that person since linden labs seem to not give a fuck.
Because it was brought up in SLS and there is an assumption that people knew, when in fact, no one did (that I’m aware of). I’m sorry if my need to protect a child’s identity by not naming her directly offends you.
Yes yes, lets protect the child even tho it was brought to SLS for good gossip. Let’s NOT share the screen name so more people can unknowingly hire her and get into hot water. Makes.Perfect.Sense.
The 17 year olds accounts (main and alts) were permanently banned by LL, I doubt she is smart enough to bypass an IP ban either. She’s not coming back, at least not anytime soon.
Yes yes let me paste her name on this forum so people can go message her. That sounds like an even better idea!
Furthermore, her profile has a confession in the 2nd life picture. If she creates another account and continues to do it, it’s not like naming this current account is going to stop it.
So there are three parties to blame here.
1: Her for pulling this shit and potentially getting a lot of people in trouble.
2: The Clubs who potentially sold her audio recordings and pictures for not doing any due dilligence (and then immediately not taking any responsibility for when it was discovered)
3: Last but not least. Linden Lab. Who got rid of age verification in 2013 and allows sexually oriented businesses but gives them no tools to protect themselves.
The three clubs that I know about, all reported her immediately, then started IDing their employees right away. They acted quickly and they are all angry. Also, whats the point of adult land having the 18+ access only button, if minors can enter anyway? I think these clubs thought they were safe. We see guys looking for underage stuff all the time in SL, but rarely hear about minors themselves working in these types of clubs.
Yes, exactly. It puts their businesses and RL at risk so it’s not like they are endorsing it.
You forgot her absentee parent/s, who seem to have thought it was ok to give a 14 year old completely unsupervised internet access that continued for years of literal prostitution. It’s fucking criminally negligent.
Maybe her parents didn’t know?
Child neglect and abuse.
Its Wrong that any parent would even allow this. Parents should be held responsible.
Yes absolutely that too.
Exactly.
She just turned 17. I heard she’d been doing it for three years as well.. Really enjoyed the excuses given ??
I heard she turned 17 in may. And had been doing it for 2.5 years.. why don’t you get all the facts?
Not true, love.
I have no idea who the person is but the saddest part is I’m like, sitting here wondering not only how did no one notice for over 3 years, but also shrugging because the way people babytalk and act like literal babies babbling incoherently at adult sims about cawk and milkies and daddis and cummies and stuffies (looking at you Snacks/Garage/etc) it’s no surprise that someone was wandering around completely free to prostitute themselves underage for years if they were surrounded by that type of people. I was at one of those sims the other day for around half an hour and wanted to stab my eardrums at the amount of toddle-voicing that was happening over adult subjects. It’s disgusting that grown men & women on SL actually encourage that because of “fetishes” or “pay-piggy profits” but hilariously they’re the same escorts and johns who scream and cry when their own livelihoods are threatened by an underage girl putting strip clubs in SL at risk … I hope it does come back to bite some of them in the ass. Sorry not sorry.
Yup. The most recent club she worked at is guilty of this shit and it’s gross to me. You have the adult owner who is 20 something years older than her yet if you ever go to their club and listen to her, there she is talking with a fake baby voice and babytalking every single word. I honestly don’t understand why that would do anything for anyone, nobody wants to be receiving their virtual lap dance and hearing some grown woman talking like a baby in the background.
this is hilarious because it’s not a baby voice its a fake lisp.
about as fake as her government ID must have been x.x and yeah, I agree with Salty, I don’t care what it is trying to be, it sounds degenerate and provokes a distinct memory of when I used to work at a daycare teaching 3 year olds… so uh… not sure why it’s being used in sex clubs for sexual propositions etc.
It doesn’t change the fact that it sounds like you’re all talking like toddlers lol
Do you know what a lisp is? She wasn’t talking like a child. And I’m pretty sure it was just a joke between her and the friends she hung with.
She has been. We were all pretty shocked. The only excuse honestly is that escort clubs don’t require age verification beyond what SL does.
Looks like they do now! It cant stop what happened already, but it can prevent it from happening again. I think thats the only thing they can really do at this point.
Repercussions are being dealt out to the faulting parties from what I have heard, and now most adult clubs are moving over to verifying age via IDs, with important information blurred out, of course. I’m going to assume this will come with cam verification as well, to ensure the people match. It’s a step in the right direction to never let this happen again. E.V.E.R. So many people are disgusted and completely put off by adult clubs in Second Life now because of this. Supposedly, the teen was widely popular, so she was around many clubs and hurt many patrons in doing this.
Then maybe you should all get real jobs instead of being a whore online. I know we’re in a pandemic, but most of these people just can’t be bothered to go and work and would rather whore themselves for a living.
*Hurt Many Patrons*. doubtful, I would think as she had it in her profile, she was most likely *popular* for age aspect. Gross I know. shrugs!
Are we talking about the 17 year old that this secret/thread was originally about or something I read above of another girl being 15?
If we’re talking about the 17 year old, after she admitted her age she changed her 2nd and 1st life photos to a screenshot of a text confession. Before that, her profile stated she was 22 years old so any patrons of her supposedly did not know of her real age, so that’s not why she was popular. 20s-30s seem to be the regular age group for the ladies working in the club she was last working in.
I mentioned one girl who admitted to being 15, got that account banned and is now back with another claiming to be 22. I think her profile shows Monarch while before it was some place called Sassy’s.. Last I saw, her newest account is still active. Beware.
Ah I did not know that piece of the puzzle.
What a shame that one foolish person could effect so many people like that.
We should be pointing the blame at the owner of Veneta who whored her out for so long. I think that persons been in many events we all know and love. Disgusting.
Why is your assumption that we can’t afford it? You can break it down however you want, but the fact still remains that hetero customers pay less in BackBone. The disparity is there. It’s not that I don’t have the extra $L1500, it’s that it’s bullshit that if I want to shop there, I’m always paying more than my hetero counterparts.
Upon discovering this, I decided to share this information with as many people as possible, so they can make an informed decision about giving BackBone their business. You can call this whining if you want, but it’s really just about the dissemination of information.
You’re not telling anyone anything they don’t know, though. You’re bitching, yes bitching, about common knowledge. This is how most furniture stores work, not just Backbone. You’re targeting them because you want them to make their specific stuff the way you want, which you already admitted, since you like their “aesthetic” and for some reason you think that entitles you to demand options almost no one else offers. You’re pretending this is some kind of secret that no one realized was going on, when obviously it isn’t considering the popularity of animated furniture in SL. Basically everyone was aware of this “information” you’re “disseminating”.
I challenge you to post a link to any PG only piece of furniture from a major, high quality creator that has FF or MM animations included. I’ll even help- Stockholm & Lima is probably your best bet, the creator tends to throw FF into most things. If I made you find PG MM, you know N4RS would be your only option- and frankly I’m not even sure they do it, I’ve never seen non-adult stuff from there. The point being is, this thing you ask for really doesn’t exist anywhere that doesn’t specialize in queer furniture, because there’s almost no market for PG only MM/FF furniture.
One of you should channel that indignant energy into making queer PG furniture yourselves, since you’re so sure it would make for easy sales.
what about the bisexual clients who want all of the animations and why do you feel so self important that only your preferences matter???