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#8 – That’s the truth. My friend was a part of her family before she came along but thankfully she left the family as soon as she knew what kind of people they are.
Does #8 also have a few alts? The main one being a multiple sim developer and owner? I saw the two comments about all the men in her family. If it’s who I think, the woman is a delusional narcissist! The men all call her mom or their queen and she flips them around constant for her needs. She goes around as an elf now putting elf sex pictures on her Flickr account. It’s pretty low when a woman has that much time on her hands to live her life 100 percent virtual . Hopefully she gets help.
She probably does though and the people on her picks, my friend knew. She and her family are fucked up insane, I swear.
You guys need to name and shame! Im new to this and im not going to keep coming back unless you start naming av names so i can go check them out in world and stuff. Otherwise for all i know these posts could be made up by the site owner. So grow some balls, prove youre not the drama queen who is blaming others and post names, times, dates, give us the real story!
Who is the owner of this kawaii pompom stupid ass event? I need in world info here because I’m going to put a choke hold on this bitch she won’t soon forget.
Haha do you also have “I hate drama on you profile”? and lots of family memebers in your picks?
What ya gonna do bust a cap lock on her?
Typical SL mentality
Nope I fully intend on having her shut down. What she’s doing is fraud and stealing. No I don’t have alot of family members on my profile and blah blah, I do however have people she’s stolen from. And stop stealing quotes from crap you get off of Facebook, have an original though darlin lol. Take care,
Oooooo Dee has your menopause medication run out? Again, stop criticizing people with your feeble mind and do something more constructive then sitting on your ass all day taking pictures of your virtual Barbie doll
I do not know this Dee , but I do know a woman – avatar initials of E B , that sits on the computer 20 hours a day and breaks once to feed her kid. The whole other time she’s playing with her Grown Virtual Sons, posing herself in lingerie with closed eyes, (mental problem right there) for her flicker account , or hopping on all her alts with her equally disturbing alt king boyfriend . That is white trash at it’s finest people .
Looks like the logo was FINALLY removed. (It is still up on Seraphim’s advertising sidebar though)
I hope she knows that people will be watching her very closely from now on, and that she doesn’t do the same thing again.
And I hope everyone who left the event got their refunds in the end? Keep us posted!
Hey, #4 is faked. Isn’t that just a common twitter generator? I’m pretty sure it is, because it looks like the prank generator. Because that isn’t what the logs look like on the artist’s page. The bottom one was used on this site before with something else too. It was never on twitter.
The picture at the bottom was on SL secrets before yes.
But I assure, all of those tweets are 150% real. Check SSW’s link.
stop lying
It’s definitely real….
https://twitter.com/Xinhang/status/735520560688435201
she’s trying so hard
i don’t believe any of this, heike kitsuyagi was a real asshole to the artist
It says it was posted by someone else.
I just come for the comments 🙂
Ok guys can you try to stick with one name and email per week so your comments don’t end up in moderation?
Thanks
I’ve spoken to the artist myself and they’re very upset about it. I was part of this event in SL and once I found out about what was going on, I pulled my items. I’ve also asked for a refund from several of the event owners, both through IM/Offline as well as note cards kindly asking as such. I’ve not been given a reply whatsoever regarding it whether I’d get a refund of the L$2,000 back or not but they did however have time to get on and remove my shop logo from my original spot. It’s sad, this whole thing is just so so sad.
This is what they said to the Kawaii Pon Pon group. I was going to blog for the event til I read all this go down. Now it’s just disgusting.
if you’ve bought into this drama and dropped out it is our policy not to give refunds, nothing personal just business. sorry. as for your booths being taken down ive said it before ill say it again im on a text viewer in a different country. i can address this when i get home. sorry for the delay
Also the co-owner has left as well countless other people.
So basically they are completely aware of what is going on and just ignoring it. Nice.
I was a blogger for the events first round, I was excited for it but was informed before the kowaii pon pon round just how shady the creator is. It was sad, because I did enjoy some of her items, but I removed myself as a blogger from the event on my own and as quietly as possible, and I doubt I’ll purchase anything from her store in the future.
WTF I know that FattyRagz Brit cheater cuz he hurt a friend of mine. Skype sex as well. He’s making a move on a decent woman now . Hopefully she finds out about all his alts. Go home to your wife you limp dick !
So this is basically a site were secrets and gossip is spread, are all of you perfect in your real life let alone your second one ? maybe people should get the facts straight before opening their traps, and unless you are DIRECTLY involved then you will NEVER know the truth will you .?
Sad and pathetic is what this is
I should have said this was in reply to the comments made about Fattyragz , I have known this man all of his second life , until you are involved directly and not a friend of a friend you don’t know the truth , if he is doing all that was mentioned then he is in fact using sl correctly , after all it is a FANTASY ,not like you others that LIVE in world and have no life
If you have known him, do you know ALL his alts? I have known him a very long time as well since he started. He has even lied to women what his real name is. Have you noticed his game of going after women that put a lot of cash in the game? I ran a full modeling agency and he was in a few of my fashion shows. When he broke it off, which he does after many months , sometimes longer , he just moves on to the next woman he can charm… Which he does VERY well. Second Life is full of liars, but when a man has to lie about his real life , there is a bigger problem. He is plain and simple a sociopath and while he tells you he loves you, he is on one of his many alts telling another women he loves her too. What the man really needs to do is learn what a Real man is and maybe get his teeth fixed
Second Life is fantasy , but there are people with feelings behind the computer. To justify someone for hurting others as being a part of fantasy is wrong. This is why I would never partner or worse have sexual relations with someone in second life. It is wrong especially if people have real relationships outside the game .
@Leeds44
Who the hell are you to judge what is ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ for everyone else?
If you want to live *your* life that way, great, but don’t sit there and dispense platitudes about what is the correct way to behave.
Cheating on a RL partner happens for many reasons. As far as men (and women for that matter) having alts to screw around on others within SL…what else is new? Grow up.
So Dee, were you proud when you knowingly went after a man in a commited relationship with a child and one on the way ( yes I do know ) ESP after coming off a relationship with another guy two weeks prior?? Tell that to his beautiful RL children and woman. You are a middle aged skank plain and simple.
This is priceless!
One of you fools thinks I’m someone called Dee and the other thinks I’m Whateves!
Ad hominem argument anyone? <— you better look that up, lol.
Grow a brain, both of you. Even one brain between both of you would be better than the current offering.
(Forever) SmarterThanYou
and…..you just proved my point.
Do keep arguing with people on the internet. It’s clearly important to your own self worth to belittle others and throw out angry insults.
(Meanwhile, the rest of us are just laughing…. (at you)).
But Dollops that’s what makes this all so funny; you believe I’m Dee and/or Whateves (who must be pissing herself with laughter at this point).
Don’t think the rest of us on this forum don’t see what you’ve done here. You could no longer defend your own argument so you launched an attack on me. It’s the old ‘bait and switch’ trick. You CANNOT defend your original position so instead you try to shift the subject to something else.
As far as my remarks about you being labelled as ‘angry insults’ — far from it. I’m laughing at you, honey buns. You’re an amusement to me…a plaything to toy with because I run intellectual rings around you.
However, it occurs to me that *YOU* might actually be Whateves because that person always seems to need to have the last word on this forum and that is precisely what you are doing with your lame-ass comebacks which fail to have any impact, except to make me think less of you than I thought possible.
Go on — I dare you — reply to this and let the rest of us laugh at your predictable desperation for the last word.
Lots o’ love,
(Infinitely) SmarterThanYou xxx
Dol, I would not even reply back, she is mentally ill. Hopefully they up her meds.
Do feel free to continue to highlight your lack of morality.
Cheating is wrong.
Open relationships are not and ensure both parties have a part of the decision.
Don’t confuse the two just to excuse poor behavior.
Get off your high horse and stop lecturing other people on how to live their lives according to your rules. Stop judging others and focus on your own life, you feeble-minded moron.
I think you just became an oxymoron “SmarterThanYou”.
Society is what define boundaries Without those, society fails. Now society is not always right and boy have we had to evolve (and I give thanks to the likes of Harvey Milk).
However, being unfaithful and cheating is simply put “wrong”.
Being open and stating “hey I want to see other people, physically, mentally, spiritually etc” allows all those involved to have and informed agreement.
The former entails lying and being dishonest.
The fact you see no issue with that, simply speaks to your own inability to have ethics and morality. No need to try and push that back on Trokel, as when you resort to calling people names simply because they disagree with you, you have already lost your argument. Hence coming full loop back to my statement – you just became an oxymoron.
Dollops,
Go back and re-read what I actually wrote, not what you *think* I wrote but what I *actually* wrote.
I said nothing to defend infidelity. I simply commented that:
1. infidelity happens for many reasons; and,
2. people fuck around a lot in SL…using alts…nothing new…move along.
Comprehension problem Dollops or is your constipation medication not working again?
Regards,
(Very definitely) SmarterThanYou xxx
“Dollops”
Now I get who you are the resident troll is back everybody. You can always tell when Whateves/Whatever is having a monthly moment as she does that little play on our names.
See you are trying what your 8th name, or is it 9th? Jumping out of your skin again I guess, just screaming for attention, looking for the counter point.
No WONDER you went in for insults, you always have to be a total dick. That twisted sad personality you have.
Do us a favor and go back to whatever hole you crawled out of again. It has been nice the past few weeks not having to skim past your mental posts..
awww It’s Menopausal DEE!!! Always talking like the low class trollup she is . Listen sweetie, before you sit in judgement of others, maybe start taking care of your middle aged self instead of taking pictures of your virtual barbie doll all day! What a waste
Oh poor Dollops,
Once again you haven’t read or perhaps can’t understand what’s been written. I didn’t “attack” anyone; I simply said stop judging other people and I stand by that. None of us is in any position to pass judgement about anyone else or their circumstances unless of course you believe (and it seems *you* do) that you are superior to others.
I also stand by my statement that people fuck around on SL. That is not to say that a lot of people fuck around as I have no idea about the numbers and nor do you.
You don’t get to come to this site, judge other people, make ill-informed remarks and get away with it without being challenged. If clueless people like you put a target on their own backs by repeatedly demonstrating their stupidity then they deserve everything they get. It’s not surprising, given your delusional belief in your superiority, that you call being challenged ‘bullying’.
Love and kisses,
(Always) SmarterThanYou.
You resort to insults because I guess you feel embarrassed?
You were the one who attacked the poster above with your ill formed words.
Again you may think people fuck around a lot, because your perception is everybody is as flawed as you. Reality is, I suspect the many do not.
Feel free to insult me more, it only reflect on you with your fake name and cowardly anon comments on the internet. Don’t make the mistake of trying to be a bully now.
Oh Dee is back again with her simple Simon way of talking. Dee maybe instead of chasing married or men in relationships , you can work on yourself first !
Hello Leeds
Yes it is wrong to hurt people in ANY life. But its worse in second life, always has been and always will be. Because when you don’t have that person in front of you and are typing away ,stinging words come easy. But everyone just assumes that what they read or hear is the gospel ,if you aren’t involved in something then you will never know the truth. And everyone is saying its wrong to hurt people, but without knowing the truth and coming on this site and bashing someone isn’t that hurting someone ? As to your point about people having relationships in world while having one out of world, its only wrong if the other half in real life doesn’t know. There are plenty of people that do this in world and it works for them , a lot of people are confident enough in their real life relationships to not let one in world interfere . Like everything else…what works for some doesn’t work for others.
Usually I come here just to read comments , but this one I feel compelled to reply to. From the above posts I read , this is about a cheating man on second life. How can you say they are confident in their relation to cheat on their spouse? That is far from confidence but actually the trait of a sociopath where he or she is married but has no reguard for their spouse if they can cheat and masturbate on a video game . Some confidence ?
You Wish, your head is not screwed on straight . To basically say this person running around doing wrong things is How He is dong SL correctly is twisted as fuck! Sure it’s fantasy , but to hurt others is uncalled for and when you cross the line. Sticking up for hm , you must be one of his random sluts. Jog off bitch
Arnell
Quite the contrary , to live a fantasy live in a fantasy world is correct , hurting others no , But there are always two sides to every story and AGAIN unless you are directly involved as in being him or her then you will NEVER know the truth , but its ok for you to sit in judgment , correct ? Sl is full of lying cheating people , that’s what happens when there is no face to face contact , half of the people that post here regularly would never say half the things they do if they had the person in front of them . Yes there are real people behind the computers ( Jog off bitch ) so mature, do you kiss your girlfriend/boyfriend ( if you have one ) or your mother with that mouth ? I am not sticking up for anyone, I am simply stating that you don’t know the facts so stay the fuck out of it , oh but I forgot your a big bad person behind this computer as so many are on this website. But I forgot your perfect in world right ? Get a life.! and not a second one.
Leeoh Fawx @iLeeoh
@Xinhang people use artists for their logos all the time. That’s just business
No, that is called breaking the law. Unless the artist signed over ownership of the artwork to be used in any way, she is still the owner of the copyrighted material..even if it was commissioned. Therefore to take a copyrighted piece and then use it for commercial uses is clear breach of copyright law and if the artist wanted to, could file a claim. Leeoh needs to understand that there are actual legal consequences and is not just an “oh well, you’re just a snob” situation.
From what ve heard the art was meant to be a logo in the first place.. just for something else? i think? but i think honest mistakes are being blown into a hte fuled war at one person for everything they do
I am sorry but there is no way this is an “honest mistake.” She took the time to pop the image into photoshop and remove the artist’s signature. She removed it because either 1. She probably wanted people to believe she made it or 2. She knew what she was about to do was wrong. And even if we are ARE to give her the benefit of the doubt and say she made a “honest mistake”, ignorance does not excuse you from the law. The way she talked to the artist tells us all she does not care she violated the rules and pretty much spat in that artists’s face.
Yeah definitely with Tsuki on that. If it was just an honest mistake she probably wouldn’t have erased the signature or in the very least said she was sorry and didn’t mean to break the rules. But she pretty much told the artist its her job to let people “USE” her and pretty much just said fuck you. That doesn’t sound like an honest mistake to me.
It’s nice that you’re trying to find the good In this situation ( that’s not sarcasm by the way, I really mean that). But unfortunately that isn’t the case.
The artist has said in her Twitter, and even told Leeoh directly on Twitter that using her work as a logo and removing the signature was not allowed.
did you ever read what the artist said?
She is aware of this and still using it???????????????????????????????????
._. WHY.
leeoh = kawaii ponpon owner
Leeoh Fawx @iLeeoh
@Xinhang if someone commissions you for art can’t they use it however they want? That’s kind of part of an artists job… Isn’t it?
∠( ᐛ 」∠)_ @Xinhang
@iLeeoh not if you erase my name and use it for commercial purposes. One is courtesy, the other is right in my ToS.
Leeoh Fawx @iLeeoh
@Xinhang people use artists for their logos all the time. That’s just business
∠( ᐛ 」∠)_ @Xinhang
@iLeeoh You don’t have commercial rights. It’s stealing all the same. “All the time”
Leeoh Fawx @iLeeoh
@Xinhang I’d hardly call an event on sl commercial
∠( ᐛ 」∠)_ @Xinhang
@iLeeoh if you’re making money from it then it’s commercial ..
Leeoh Fawx @iLeeoh
@Xinhang you don’t make money off events, only the designers in the events do. Like an anime con only the artists profit
∠( ᐛ 」∠)_ @Xinhang
@iLeeoh advertising for a commercial event still counts. Is it that hard to just use a different picture?
Leeoh Fawx @iLeeoh
@Xinhang no it’s not, it’s more like an honor someone would use your art. I hate artists that are stuck up about people USING their art
∠( ᐛ 」∠)_ @Xinhang
@iLeeoh sure, an honour that you took off my name and nobody even knows I drew it?
Leeoh Fawx @iLeeoh
@Xinhang waste of money to buy art you can’t even use lol
∠( ᐛ 」∠)_ @Xinhang
@iLeeoh there are plenty of ways to use art non-commercially. If it wasn’t cool, you shouldn’t have ordered.
∠( ᐛ 」∠)_ @Xinhang
@iLeeoh but it’s fine to take your business elsewhere. Thanks.
“Not making money off events” Yeah right Leeoh. How much are you charging for a designers fee again?
erm i dont want to get involved… but i know ponpon barely ayes its rent with the booth fees… thay actually pay out of poket to try and keep th is event alive just to make items for people. theyre really nice and ti hurts to see so much drama spreading like wildfire from just a few people wanting to take her out personally… so childish 🙁
I don’t know her personally. I’ve only seen all this from the artists Twitter. But if she’s charging people, for anything, then it’s commercial. Doesn’t matter if she’s making a profit or not.
Everything is on the artists Twitter. She’s not okay with her work being used this way, especially since Leeoh removed her signature from the image.
This entire situation could have been avoided if Leeoh just talked to the artist for permission. Or, checking the artists ToS before purchasing the art to see what it is or isn’t allowed to be used for.
Not even going to say sorry, just acting like she is in the right.
IS SHE REALLY THAT FUCKING DUMB?
yes LOL
Dee has been a known troublemaker for years . I don’t know Magivor but I can tell you Fattyragz is one of the biggest male whores on SL. Plus it’s MORE then 6 alts he has ! One of them being a Catholic Priest to get nun Rp sex. The dude is a perv. Wonder if Dee knows she’s only sloppy seconds to him . One other thing his wife, yea the one he lives with in RL is gorgeous . Feel sorry for her .
#9
Hello Averylust Resident!
I understand you’re upset you got caught copybotting me, and then fucked up while copybotting Considerably Ordinary, but I didn’t “get you banned”, you got yourself banned. I didn’t tell a single person to ban you, they did after you got caught.
All the information is available on a single post I did addressing it on my flickr, which I only did after she went and ripped someone else, so again, if you had stuck to just me, you’d still be fine, but because you went and did it again and got caught, now you’re throwing a tantrum using a shitty angle picture of my face from 2011 that isn’t in any way connected to your whining.
For everyone else, sorry about having to read a shitty secret.
Yeah I was thinking it wouldn’t make a lot of sense to ban for that. Copybotting clears that confusion up a bit though.
Blablablablah ok i gonna go play minecraft, the drama there is way more entertaining. Anyone coming with meh? Yiss
9) The girl was banned from events because she’s a copybotter. Last I checked that’s still a pretty serious issue in secondlife, nobody is that vain let’s be real.
Verinne is. Granted it’s not always accusations of bullying but she will flat out try to bully people out of sims if they dare to have anything on the same as her. She has a shitty attitude and it’s gotten her banned from a lot of places so it’s funny that she’s trying to get other people banned now. Maybe she should stick to making those begging videos asking people to fund her going to circus school.
Hey Panda,
I like how you’re the only person who even remembers that.
I think it’s funny that you’re trying to tell me I bully people off of sims, yet you ran blogs dedicated to trash talking avatars in Gor, and then when you tried to do your gor fashion blog, lions witch and the gordrobe, it failed and you got bitter again.
Also, good to see you’re still miserable in second life!
That person gets banned because they rip content and it has been pointed out. #that’snotevenapictureofverianne
Or rather it’s a picture of her from 2011 taken by someone else. Isn’t even relevant
to the accusation of “what others can’t be.”
#3 – it was for FLF 😀 recolours are permitted, I mean… its f’ing 50 L$… why are yo’ so sour-grapesey?
Srsly? Someone’s mesh knickers are in a twist over a FLF recolour?? If this was Uber or Collabor88 I could see some outrage, but it’s just a discounted in-store shopping event… some people are just very entitled. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it!
I agree people need to chill. If you don’t like it don’t buy it.
@9 Looks like she can smell her personality.
Thats probably the girl who copybotted her shape &is mad she got caught when copying someone else too. There is a bunch of stuff about it on her flickr and another girls.
That picture doesnt even look like verinne from awesomesauce either lol
The last one seems to have misplaced her chin.
The last one looks like that dumb ass Dee. You know the one, goes after married men like Magivor and Fattyragz? Bitch at the computer so much , she don’t even live a real life ! Yet she acts all high n mighty, like she knows it all, well hey bitch just so you know both youz men have alts and with other women.. I can name 6 at least in Fat shits case. You got played!
from what I recall verinne ansar has lived with her partner for over two years and she’s never hidden her RL
@#2 and #4, The kawaii Pon Pon event gets shittier and shittier every minute. Not only does the owner steal art AND MONEY from other people. She tries. Sabotage other events and even lies about her designer lineup to lure designers into her shit hole of an event. KAWAII PONPON JUST NEEDS TO CLOSE ALREADY AND CALL IT A DAY.
@#9 Verienne who???? Is this someone of relevance? Because I don’t think so! Everybody on the grid wears fucking white hair and vco lips!
Wtf she lied about the designers involved? Didn’t she think they would notice?
Yeah that’s what I’ve heard from a lot of people! Like how can you run an event like this???
That’s crazy. Idk how they expected it not to go badly doing stuff like this.
How did they lie about their designers? Last i checked everyone they said was in there…. uhhh was in there?
I wish people would make better use of this site. Like to point out actual issues and not to just insult people they don’t like.
Like art theft = actual issue.
Making fun of someone’s avi and calling them a fat pig = personal problem that makes you just as bad as them.
#4; Some updated info about this. The thief in question did commission the art in the top twitter pic, however they went against the terms laid out by the artist (http://prnt.sc/b9txcd) by using it commercially as a logo for their event, and even went as far as to remove the artists signature and edit over it. But either way, the original artist is upset about it, and I hope it gets taken down soon.
Dee is so stupid I feel sorry for her . What is a grown ass woman speaking with meh or other teenager abreviations? And how she thinks she’s hot in RL … Cough … We won’t even go there. No wonder she’s obsessed on her avatars , because she’s lacking in RL
A lot of middle aged women do that to look younger for the guys, that teen banter. Personally , if I heard any chick 30 or over using meh or r or u , I’d think they had no education or trying to bait young lads. Ladies maybe spend more time working on your own middle age self with a good diet and exercise instead of taking pictures of your virtual Dollie all day while sitting on your ass. Guys like a fit woman
Thank you for finally saying what others think of Dee ! Miss Homewrecker 2016 award goes to her. I do feel the men should be blamed as well but if it is true that’s she’s cyber sexing a guy whose wife has terminal cancer , then she is nothing but a pos !!!!
Well, thank you, Token, for the advice to those of us ’30 or over’ chicks. Since our first priority is, always and of course, to be what men ‘like’, we’ll get right on that! Just so we can be what men like. Because that’s all we really care about, you know. Not being independent, intelligent, bright and sexually vital women, but just being what men like. Soooooo, how about you? What do YOU do to be what women like? Hm? No paunch, right? Got a nice full thick head of hair with no gray? Straight, white teeth? Nice biceps? A firm, muscular derriere? A sexy strong back? And, by the way, if I heard any man 30 or over using ‘chick’ to describe a woman, I’d think they had no education or were some sort of misogynist.