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virtual-secrets: Week 397
· Lourdes Denimore ·
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Before we delve into secrets…
• If you hook up with a crazy in SL, it is not our responsibility to help you deal with that. If it becomes a RL issue contact law enforcement.
• Trust no one. If you tell people your laundry they will air it for you.
• Secret submissions are anonymous. We don’t know if your crazy ex or your abuela submitted them.
• Make your secrets legible.
• Do not contact us just to threaten us, especially with e-lawyers. We’ve been doing this for 12+ years. You are not the first nor will you be the last.
• Lastly, if the material submitted here triggers you, please get help. If the materials submitted here make you suicidal please see the suicide hotline numbers posted. They are there to help.
Even for this site, putting up someone’s real life name, location, and image and connecting with their Second Life avatar is kinda despicable.
What is number 6? That could be related to a lot of people.
I think this is about some guy who blogs. I’ve seen him before on flickr
you no what you all need? kick up sorry butt on the way to forced labor camp in north korea, that is what!
Get head out of ass and stick boot in instead and get over self ffs
I love this website and shit it stirring. Me stirring shit too and you all react. Some laugh. Some cry. some dont not care.This is life. But this is second life too only you too foolish to see it. I say dont not take site away. I beg no. My dog beg no too HAHAHA.
Serious now! Attention!!! Light up little bit.
#7 could be about any number of people…
No.
Someone explain #3 to me? I miss Dailyn 🙁
#1 It is him, Everyone knows
Whoever wrote number 7, you are a real piece of shit.
and shame on Lordes and Kesseret for keeping this secret up! You are CLASS ACTS.
And downvote me all you like. But the reality is that the person this secret is about had something devastating happen in their real life this week, and all you people who are having a laugh at this persons expense are disgusting. Especially the person who posted this secret, and those who are allowing it to stay up.
It is really fucking sad that Lordes and Kesseret can’t choose doing the right thing over serving their own egos. If the subject of the secret finds out about it adds to the pain they already have, I hope you feel personally responsible for it. YOU have the power to say no to posting this secret and yet you are more concerned with what your “followers” think (a bunch of people you don’t even know) than the feelings of someone who is going through something awful.
There is no “right thing to do” in this situation, truth be told. We can take it down and then it’s a slap in the face to every person who had far worse Secrets about them that we didn’t take down. Or we leave it up and piss off the friends of the person this secret is about.
So yes we’re staying loyal to our readers and submitters who we may not know vs someone we also don’t know.
Also, no I will not remove your comments. I tried to discuss this with you privately. You decided you needed to come here and show your ass. Calling Kess and I out as terrible human beings. So, own it.
Lastly this is the official announcement that the secret will not be removed. Any further requests will be ignored. Kess and I also offer our condolences. We both know what it is to lose a parent. Have both lost a parent in the past few years.
Actually I tried to discuss this with you privately and you stopped responding, so then yes, I decided to come here and “show my ass” whatever that means. When you lost a parent, did someone come on this website and essentially call you a whore? Would you have stood for that if someone said that about Kesseret? Can you really blame any of us who have contacted you personally to ask that you have some decency and take the secret down? No. The fact of the matter is-YOU-hold all of the power here. So if makes you guys feel powerful and great to really stick it to people who are literally devastated, that *is* terrible. You’re basically saying that just because you didn’t write it, you are not responsible for it. But you are, you are enabling this behavior. You think it’s a slap in the face to the people have had other horrible things written about this site? Maybe it is, but you can be responsible and mature human beings and start to CHANGE THAT. Don’t you think those people who have been hurt on this site in the past would rather that others don’t have to feel the same pain as they have? So, you can be butthurt or upset all you like that I called you both horrible people. But I’m not here to make *YOU* feel better. I commented on this bullshit because it is morally wrong and because I wanted to protect someone who is going through something horrible, and you should be sympathetic to that, since you have been there. You can sit there and say you offer your condolences and say you are sorry for what happened, but actions speak a whole hell of a lot louder than words and it is truly… Read more »
Actually when Kess’ mother died people commented here that she probably was lying.
I stopped replying because I had nothing further to offer because as I told you in that conversation nothing you said would change our minds.
As for being upset or butthurt. We’ve been doing this for years. We’ve been called cunts, whores, Kess has been doxed, people have wished us dead and threatened legal action with their e-lawyer. Do you truly think there is anything you can say that affects us.
Do you think this is the first time a secret was submitted after someone experienced a loss. Nope. It was handled the same way.
Honestly we’re not the one with the problem if you can’t separate the sympathy for a RL death vs insults on the internet.
I’m done discussing it. If you want to keep going feel free. Once again, it’s not going to change anything.
Really, all you are doing is making yourself look worse. The fact that you have zero sympathy for all of the people who have experienced loss and then had some drama posted about them on this site, and you don’t care enough to take it down, just makes you look bad.
I mean, if you honestly enjoying feeding into peoples hurt and pain by allowing this kind of content to be released, I guess that is your right. But don’t act like you are sympathetic towards people whose pain is increased by your website when you literally give people the avenue to spew this kind of hatred.
But I am sure you have heard this many times before. It is very apparent that neither you nor Kesseret have any moral compass as you allow this kind of hatred and malicious gossip to take place and even better, you encourage it.
And also, this “Honestly we’re not the one with the problem if you can’t separate the sympathy for a RL death vs insults on the internet.” is complete bullshit. There is no separation. Insults are insults, regardless of where they come from. I mean, you have a suicide hotline linked on your website, you clearly know that these things hurt people enough to consider hurting themselves. Don’t sit there and act like people genuinely can separate their RL from SL. Feelings translate across the board.
At this point, I don’t really care if you remove the secret or not, because I know you won’t. But it would be incredible if you admitted even an ounce of responsibility for the pain you DO cause on people by hosting this website.
Shut up NoMatter, they do know because the name was written above.
It has already been stated she is dealing with a parent’s death. Don’t project, we all know your husband left you years back. You now have to make do with those desperate 50 year old dudes who dress badly and still cheat on you sunshine.
Buhaha you got the person
NEWSFLASH. I was just told which one was about Oakley – no one would have figured it out if it wasn’t OUTED in the comments. You only have yourself to blame.
It’s not being removed, it breaks no rules.
Keep talking your shit about Lourdes and I, I bet you sit on a real high horse. I bet you are perfect 100 percent of the time. I bet you never make mistakes. I bet you are AMAZING. Congratulations for being awesome and wonderful and saving kittens from death.
And I am genuinely curious if you both just love knowing that your site causes people hurt and pain every week…do you get some kind of kick out of it? I mean what other purpose would it serve for you?
Wow, this is a losing battle. When I saw this site pop up, I knew the SL community was going to fall to the same petty bullying garbage that the Livejournal/Dreamwidth one did. These secrets often do really hurt people and do ruin them by outing secrets and encouraging harassment but the people who run them don’t give a fuck – it’s all fun for them. They fall back on the “freedom of speech” and “it’s just the internet” because we’re faceless to them. They don’t have to look us in the eyes. The secret makers and site owner don’t have to ever see the damage they do. Hey, we deserve it, right? Pretty sure the former friend who did this to me on Livejournal in their secret community back in my roleplaying days can’t see how getting doxxed over refusing to play her gay fantasies and getting rape threats from strangers and people coming to my address has affected me or how terrified I am for anyone to get to know me now. What do they care? Internet lulz, encouraged by others because “it’s just the internet” and “we can’t control what people do”.
Yeah. Keep lying to yourself.
Oh I hear you guys “BUT YOU LOOK HERE” – I sure do because I check for friends and the little secrets like “this store sucks” are amusing. This one though? It’s sick.
My comprehension is usually good but I did get a bit bored and I’m guilty of skipping over your long winded posts. But really you’re being precious, the person who lost a parent will be busy grieving and will surely not be reading this blog. The rest of us don’t know who it is, don’t care and don’t want to know about the peenys she’s had waved at her cartoons face. So move on, stop posting and go support your friend. Surely your time is better spent there and not fighting a losing battle here.
@Bruise I’m an idiot for nor advocating for a website that is deliberately set up to hurt people? K. FB/Twitter can be toxic too, but they are not built to SPECIFICALLY be toxic. So ok, sit there and call me an idiot all you like but I sure as hell don’t feel like one for trying to talk some sense into Lordes/Kess. There were multiple of us who asked them nicely to take the secret down out of respect for her and the grieving period she is in. There is nothing wrong with that. What there is something wrong with, is acting like they are not contributing to her pain by allowing this secret to stay up. Not only that, acting like them hosting this site is not actively contributing to the pain it may cause to people who read it. That is naive and ignorant. Also “If the internet is causing anyone significant pain I would STRONGLY suggest that that person reevaluate their emotional well being & internet use.” Maybe think about the emotional well being of someone who just lost a parent, that is what I’m doing. You don’t think that going though that, literally days ago might be pushed into a more emotional state seeing themselves being attacked on this website? @Nomatter—Do you have reading comprehension skills? The subject of secret number seven lost one of her RL parents this week, hence why she shut down her plurk. SO SHE COULD GRIEVE. It has nothing to do with anyone’s love life. The poster of the secret obviously is either an asshole or didn’t know and made a shitty assumption about somebodies life. If it is “precious” of me to ask that this site doesn’t willingly post awful drama about somebody who has had something traumatic happen to… Read more »
I agree with some of the things wow is saying. However this site isn’t exactly getting a million reads a minute so lets take a step back and realize its just a gossip rag it literally means nothing, it effects no ones life unless YOU allow it to. This is just for entertainment yes in a low form just like crude comedians but that is all it is and ever will be. I’m sure Oakley is a lovely person and I’m sure also Lourde is. That being said I just wish people in SL would realize how small the community is and we ALL should try to be supportive of each other.
Don’t be so fucking precious, no one knows or gives a shit about who #7 is or whatever big fucken drama happened in her life. Did her husband find out about an SL love fest or something? Why should it be taken down because you say so.
Dear wow,
You are an idiot.
I am not here to defend Lourdes, Kess or SL Secrets. However, I would like to point out that everyday thousands and thousands of people take to the internet to make nasty and hurtful comments. They use MANY different platforms including Facebook and twitter (ever heard of celebrity mean tweets? Google it if not – funny shit), and yes, SL Secrets.
SL secrets DOES NOT have the mean/hurtful portion of the internet all locked up for themselves. Do you think twitter and Facebook are going to shutdown since so many users use their platform to be mean or passive aggressive? No.
Your long winded, argumentative responses here are futile. Put your big girl or boy panties on and click X and go away.
This isn’t the first secret about Oakley and likely won’t be the last. She will get by. The secret maker is a total c*nt for making the secret, but what’s done is done. I am very sorry for her loss.
If the internet is causing anyone significant pain I would STRONGLY suggest that that person reevaluate their emotional well being & internet use.
I’m curious where in the comments did anyone say exactly who the secret is about besides you?
Go ahead and think I sit on a high horse. I never said I have never done anything wrong in my life. but the difference here is I don’t WILLINGLY host a website for people to WILLINGLY hurt other people!
YOU DO! So stop acting as if you are not guilty of hurting people as well, because if it weren’t for your website, nobody would have a place to spread viscous rumors and lies about other people, or at least not anonymously and in a forum that literally makes a spectacle out of other peoples lives.
So you can sit there on your high horse and act like you are completely innocent of any wrong doing but the fact is that you ENCOURAGE people to hurt others, and have been doing it for years. Mistakes are something that happen sporadically and you admit guilt and move on. You have been called out numerous times over the last few years, I am sure of it, and yet continue to keep this website going. Which doesn’t make you guilty of one stupid mistake, it makes you an accomplice to this behavior.
You are an extremely sad excuse for a human being. Karma is a bitch, and it is going to destroy you one day. I just hope I’m around to witness it.
#2 – I’m almost certain most of those are in the public domain and it’s not illegal to do things with them.
#3 – Why are we silently judging her? Is it not OK to close your store, but stay in SL?
“2: maybe, but It’s criminal how badly they crumble up at not even a 40 inch dinstance.
#3 Posting publicly about something usually doesn’t fall under the definition of the word “silently.”